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-It was awful. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:30 | |
-Seeing it on Friday -will be terrible. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
-It's part of God's design, -unfortunately. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
-He saved the world by sending -his son to die for our sins. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
-It's awful, but that's what happened -and what I believe. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
-Ultimately, -it's a theatrical experience for me. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
-But subconsciously, -I hope to renew my faith... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
-..in the crucifixion -and the resurrection. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
-The experience -of seeing the crucifixion... | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
-..will outdo films -such as The Passion Of The Christ. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:23 | |
-It's live theatre. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
-It happens to a real person... | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
-..just as people stood on Calvary -when Christ was crucified. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
-Oberammergau is a village -in the Bavarian Alps. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
-Its once-a-decade Passion Play -attracts thousands of visitors. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
-This year, -a coachload from Clwyd is going... | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
-..to see a theatrical performance -of Christ's final week on earth. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
-The Reverend Wayne Roberts -organized a complete experience. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
-A great friend of mine -was a staunch chapelgoer. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
-I remember him saying, -"We need religion and chips." | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
-We'll have fun on this journey too. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
-It's an event on people's tick list. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
-Most people will be inspired. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
-It'll be interesting -to see how some react. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
-I want to go -because of what it means. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
-I admire the people and why -they did it in the first place. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
-The bubonic plague -had ravaged their society. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
-They vowed that if they were -saved from the plague... | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
-..they would commemorate -the crucifixion forever. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
-I admire that. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
-The first Passion Play -was staged in 1634. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
-The tradition lives on, -as does the villagers' dedication. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
-It's a tradition that everyone -who takes part was born there... | 0:03:21 | 0:03:27 | |
-..or has lived there -for at least 20 years. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
-It's true to this day. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
-People stop working for 18 months. -The men promise not to shave. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
-They're very serious. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
-There is a stand-in for Christ -if the main actor is taken ill. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
-They must live as Christ lived. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
-They promise to be pure. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
-I'm sure it's a worry for them. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
-They have to become Jesus Christ. -I couldn't say I'm like that. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
-I'm a minister and live my life -as best as I can... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
-..but I couldn't say I resemble -Jesus Christ in my life. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
-Wayne lives in Llanrhaeadr, -between Ruthin and Denbigh. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
-As well as looking after -eleven parish chapels... | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
-..he arranges regular tours -for members. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
-Many outside his parish -expressed an interest in this trip. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
-I knew it was happening this year. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
-Silver Star Holidays -told me when they were going. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
-Someone mentioned a minister -who was arranging a trip. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
-She eventually remembered his name -and phoned me. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
-I knew of him -and phoned him immediately. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
-I was so pleased because everyone -praises his trips. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:03 | |
-I knew and respected Wayne -as a minister and shepherd. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
-I only know half a dozen of them. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
-They appear to be members -in Wayne's churches. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
-It's lovely to be around them. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
-I'm expecting the unexpected. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
-Something unlike anything -I've experienced before. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
-I expect to see a great crowd... | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
-..creating tension... | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
-..and passion. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
-Over the years, Brian Morris -has acted and written scripts... | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
-..for local drama companies. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
-Many have a religious theme. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
-But since his wife's death, -Brian has questioned his faith. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
-I lost a partner and wife. -We were together for 46 years. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
-That's the biggest part of my life. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
-Like everyone else who has -experienced a loss, I ask questions. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
-Why her? -But that's the order of things. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
-We have to accept it. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
-But anyone who has been -in my situation... | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
-..if they're honest... | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
-..will question God's workings. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
-My Father... | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
-..cannot this cup be taken away? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
-My Father... | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
-..don't abandon me. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:53 | |
-We kept the buses in this garage. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
-We once had -a dozen and a half buses. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
-I can take a back seat -now that the buses have gone. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
-I have time to go to places -I should have visited years ago. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
-It's not a pilgrimage. -It's up to the individual. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
-It's not confined -to chapel members. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
-There are people -from as far afield as Colwyn Bay. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
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-Llinos, my sister, is a partner -in the Pentre Motors business. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
-I was excited -when I heard about Wayne's trip. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
-I've always wanted to go, -but the timing was never right. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
-The travel agent said I was -the first to put my name down. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:57 | |
-That's how much I wanted to go, -and I'm going! | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
-Usually, our theatre trips -are a maximum of two hours per show. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
-The Oberammergau Passion Play -lasts for seven to eight hours. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
-I hope to stay awake till the end! | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
-Although she was born -in the Denbigh area... | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
-..Enid Davies lives in Eglwysbach -in the Conwy Valley. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
-She's going on the journey -with her sister, Gwen. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
-I'm packing all sorts -in case they come in handy. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
-I'll probably end up -putting half of them back! | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
-I wanted to go to Israel -and Oberammergau before I die. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
-I visited Israel ten years ago. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
-I'm going to Oberammergau this year. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
-I'd be too old to wait around -for another ten years! | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
-But I want to go terribly. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
-It's a week's holiday for Enid. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
-It'll finish with the realization -of her dream in Oberammergau. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
-After travelling from Munich -to the Tyrol... | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
-..they arrive at their hotel -in Seefeld, over the Austrian border. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
-Tesco or Asda, is there peace? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
-Peace! | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
-Seefeld above Tyrol, is there peace? | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
-Peace! | 0:09:36 | 0:09:37 | |
-Sit in the peace of the Eisteddfod! | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
-The week's itinerary -includes Wayne's Welsh nights... | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
-..and a taste of local culture. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
-They'll stay in Seefeld -for the first part of the holiday. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:15 | |
-The popular destination... | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
-..is still important -to Oberammergau pilgrims. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
-This is their first morning. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
-Everyone is free to roam -as they wish. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
-Here you are, Brinley! -I'm delivering your wives for you! | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
-Where are you taking them today? | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
-Do you want to know -where I was last night?! | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-Seefeld is one -of the Tyrol's main towns. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
-It's a very special little haven -north-west of Innsbruck. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
-We're surrounded -by the Austrian mountains. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
-It's 40 minutes from Oberammergau, -which is very convenient. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
-CHURCH BELL | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
-Some kept their feet on the ground... | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
-..but Llinos and her friend Sheila -headed for the heights. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
-Look! | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
-How did they know we were coming? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
-Well, well! | 0:11:35 | 0:11:36 | |
-Well, well! - -Welcome! | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
-It's fantastic here. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
-Tomorrow morning -is the highlight of the holiday. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
-We'll see the Passion Play. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
-We're looking forward to it. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
-I'm delighted we had the chance -to come here today. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:09 | |
-I'm thrilled -to have come on this excursion. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
-I feel on top of the world. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
-It's indescribable... | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
-..looking down -on all of the mountains. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
-It might sound odd, -but I feel an inner peace here. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
-Since I lost my partner... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
-..I haven't got any complaints -and I don't bear a grudge. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:43 | |
-I was fortunate -to share Ceri's journey. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
-But I feel a nagging doubt... | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
-..like others -who've been in this situation... | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
-..why me and why her? | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
-She never hurt anyone. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
-It's one of life's trials -that we must all face. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
-We come to terms with the loss. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
-We live in hope... | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
-..and perhaps in my subconscious... | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
-..experiencing tomorrow's -crucifixion and resurrection... | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
-..will inspire me -to believe we'll meet again. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
-It will signify to me -that it's not the journey's end. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
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-The Reverend Wayne Roberts -leads travellers from Clwyd... | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
-..to Oberammergau -and the holiday's highlight. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
-The world-famous Passion Play -is only performed every ten years. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
-Is this my Father's house -or a market? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
-There's one important stop -on the way. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
-The Pilgrimage Church of Wies. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
-I compare it to St Beuno's Church -in Clynnog Fawr. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
-Pilgrims to Bardsey stopped there, -and we're stopping here. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
-It's an exquisite Catholic church. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
-People witness Jesus's suffering. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
-They get rid of their sins. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
-There are different areas here -to pray or to talk to God. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
-It's a special place. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
-I lit a candle and said a prayer -for Meinir, my daughter. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
-I think about her every day. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
-Meinir is usually -my first waking thought. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
-I lost her three years ago. -She was 45 and a mother of three. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
-She was a lovely girl. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
-All parents -say this about their children. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
-There is no greater tragedy -than losing a child. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
-Everyone would say that. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
-It's hard, even with my faith. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
-God can't prevent such suffering. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-We all suffer - he who -hasn't suffered hasn't been born. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
-With God's support, -we get through it, but it's hard. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:49 | |
-This year is the first time... | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
-..that talking about her -doesn't make me cry. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
-Just thinking or talking -about Meinir would make me cry. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
-That doesn't happen any more. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
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-CROWD SHOUTS | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
-CHEERS | 0:16:21 | 0:16:22 | |
-One. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:30 | |
-We're the Golden Girls. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
-Not that we're old! | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
-We try our best. -There are no men in our team. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
-We had to find men... | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
-..to help us win! | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
-This is the man who helped us. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
-He's our mascot. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:00 | |
-But he isn't much cop! | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
-Watch it! | 0:17:04 | 0:17:05 | |
-CHEERS | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
-We've come here to bowl tonight. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
-It's a great opportunity for us -to socialize and enjoy ourselves. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
-Tomorrow is a heavy day. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
-We're going to see the drama, -which will be emotional. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
-It's important that we all mix -and have fun. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
-SHOUTS OF ENCOURAGEMENT | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
-It's strong stuff! | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
-What's happening tomorrow? | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
-What's happening tomorrow? - -No idea. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
-We're going on the bus -to Oberammergau. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
-We'll have an early breakfast -and be on the bus by nine o'clock. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
-We're fortunate -to be going on a Friday. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
-It's more significant -because it was a Good Friday. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
-The date helps. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
-I've been before. -It's an unforgettable experience. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
-That's why I've come back. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
-They reach their journey's end -on Friday morning - Oberammergau. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
-Between May and October... | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
-..more than 250,000 people -will see the Passion Play. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
-For many, like Enid and her sister, -it realizes a lifetime's dream. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:33 | |
-It's a once in a lifetime -experience. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
-We'll get a spiritual feeling -out of it. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
-I hope we'll enjoy the drama. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
-I'm sure the singing will be good. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
-We'll try to understand -the odd word of German. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
-This is where -the Passion Play takes place. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
-We'll be entering -in a quarter of an hour. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
-There are thousands of people here. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
-It's buzzing with excitement. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
-# THE PASSION PLAY # | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
-I thought it was amazing -and memorable. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
-When the Old Testament tableaux -appeared as a backdrop... | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
-..the choir separated -from the middle... | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
-..framing the tableaux. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
-When the tableaux closed, -the choir came together. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
-They were so professional. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
-It was very effective. -I felt the pain and suffering. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
-It was -an incredibly moving experience. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
-I had tears in my eyes. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
-The crucifixion was very emotional. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
-Everyone knows the story. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
-But to see it happening... | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
-..and seeing the blood... | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
-..and how -the blood capsules worked... | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
-..it was incredibly frightening. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
-More than 4,000 people -had come from all over the world. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
-That was incredible. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
-# THE PASSION PLAY # | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
-The following morning, -it's time to leave Oberammergau. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
-They travel back -to Seefeld for their own service. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
-We're a colourful bunch. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
-I didn't know some of them well, -but we've all socialized. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:43 | |
-Enid, who assists in Welsh churches, -will lead this morning's sermon. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:49 | |
-Jesus Christ included many women -as his disciples. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:56 | |
-Enid's sermon concentrated on -the role of women in Jesus's life. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
-The Passion Play had naturally -struck a chord with her. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
-Mary's suffering when Jesus -was taken down from the Cross... | 0:22:05 | 0:22:13 | |
-..was very powerful and emotional. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
-I cried. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
-Brian's main interest -was a theatrical experience. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
-Did the Passion Play -have a deeper impact on him? | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
-A shiver went down my spine. -It was also uplifting. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
-The opening was so striking -that I was shaken. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:44 | |
-The choir sang -to announce Christ's victory. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
-For me, -it was the spirit of eternal God. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
-He's alive, he's alive. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
-I was there. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
-# Ponder anew | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
-# What the Almighty can do # | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
-The experience -strengthened us as individuals. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
-It strengthened my faith. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
-It was strong before, I'm sure. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
-I was so pleased to be there. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
-I'm sure that my faith -is even stronger. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
-I hope so. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
-# Let the Amen | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
-# Sound from his people again | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
-# Gladly | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
-# For aye we adore him # | 0:23:46 | 0:23:52 | |
-S4C Subtitles by GWEAD | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
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