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-He travelled alone, -far from the eyes of the world... | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
-..and brought little-known -parts of the world into view. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
-He found a place in -the land of eternal snow... | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
-..out of reach of civilisation. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
-The land of the Mandans, -the fabled Welsh Indians... | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
-..and of many more tribes. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
-He would learn more about their land -than the Indians knew themselves. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
-Far from his homeland, he was -an adventurer in a strange land. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:51 | |
-Welshman David Thompson... | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
-..was the greatest geographer -and cartographer ever to have lived. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
-He mapped over -four million square miles... | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
-..of the wild expanses -of North America. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
-As an old man, in 1854, he penned -a document titled 'The Travels'. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
-There he recorded his adventures... | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
-..along the rivers that -flow down from the Rockies. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
-The work also reveals -the insurmountable obstacles... | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
-..that he faced inside himself. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
-He lived among the indigenous tribes -of North America... | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
-..for nearly thirty years, growing -to respect their way of life. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
-Yet, Thompson would be -a key figure... | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
-..in the destruction -of that way of life. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
-"The Earth is divine and alive. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
-"The Indians cannot -define its nature. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
-"The forests, the ridges -and the rugged hills... | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
-"..and the lakes and rivers, -all make incarnate Manitou. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
-"Manitou is the god of the Indians. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
-"The rivers, in particular, -live with the fish that breed." | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
-David Thompson's roots were far away -on the other side of the world... | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
-..in Wales, another mountainous land -of rivers winding down to the sea. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
-And a land of legend and poetry... | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
-..to which the sea and rivers -and lakes were central. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
-New forces and values were rushing -through Wales in the 18th century. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
-The country was caught -between two crosswinds... | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
-..the Methodist Revival -and the Industrial Revolution. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
-London was also changing -and expanding... | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
-..and attracting increasing numbers -from Wales in search of work. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
-Among them were -David Thompson's parents. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
-They settled in Westminster, one of -London's less healthy districts... | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
-..on the banks of -the polluted river Thames. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
-David Thompson was born in -the parish of St John's... | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
-..on April 30th 1770. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
-The parish register -was signed with an "X"... | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
-..by the father, Dafydd ap Tomos, -and the mother, Anne Rice. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
-He was born and bred in London. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:49 | |
-But David Thompson was a Welshman... | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
-..who kept his Welsh lilt -to his dying day. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
-But London was a city of poverty -and of affluence, side by side. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
-Beaverskin hats were fashionable -among the wealthy... | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
-..and the fur trade in Hudson Bay -prospered as a result. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
-The price of one hat was a year's -wages to David Thompson's parents. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
-The family income disappeared with -the unexpected death of the father. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
-The mother and two sons may well -have ended up in Gin Lane... | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
-..were it not for -the intervention of fate... | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
-..that would lead David Thompson -throughout his life. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
-His mother found a place for him -at the Grey Coat Hospital School... | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
-..in the protective shadow -of Westminster Abbey. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
-Rather than beg on the streets... | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
-..the young boy would be educated -for a career in the Royal Navy. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
-He learned to write, -and was taught mathematics... | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
-..and thoroughly educated -in seafaring knowledge. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
-Thompson was a lonely boy... | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
-..living on the fringes -of privileged English society. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
-But he found solace in the -expansive Westminster Abbey... | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
-..at the heart of the great Empire -that had claimed his homeland. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
-Here, he could retreat -into his own imagination... | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
-..and relive his mother's stories -of legendary Welsh heroes... | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
-..such as Arthur -and his sword Excalibur... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-..and the enchanted Isle of Avalon. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
-But the old world -was rapidly disappearing. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
-The 18th century was a century -of great revolutions... | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
-..in the areas of geography, -astronomy and science... | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
-..with political revolutions -in America and France. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
-Thompson was part -of the great movement... | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
-..to discover the world -and to change the world. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
-Having lost its American colonies -in the War of Independence... | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
-..there was less work to be found -in England's Navy. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
-The boy was bought by the Hudson's -Bay Company for five pounds. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
-Thompson worked as a company clerk -in the wilds of northern Canada... | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
-..aged only fourteen at the time. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
-"Now, we charted our course -across the western ocean. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
-"As we approached the American isles -we encountered several icebergs. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
-"The Hudson channel -was so locked in ice... | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
-"..it took almost a month -to pass through." | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
-The ship anchored on -the western shore of Hudson Bay. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
-When it set sail after a fortnight, -it left the boy behind. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
-"While the ship was still moored, -the distance between myself... | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
-"..and my parent and acquaintances -seemed of little consequence. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
-"But as I watched the ship -sail away and out of sight... | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
-"..the distance became immeasurable. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
-"I bade a long and sad farewell -to a sacred and noble land... | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
-"..exiled forever." | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
-Thompson had come to work -in Churchill Factory... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
-..and his superior there -was Samuel Hearn. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
-Hearn was then busy -recording his own memoirs... | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
-..and the task of setting them -to paper fell to Thompson. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
-The Churchill Factory -records for 1784-85... | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
-..have survived in the -Hudson's Bay Company archives. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
-At the end of the records, the -copy is annotated, "Boy writing". | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
-That boy was undoubtedly Thompson. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
-The many Indian tribes -that lived in the interior... | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
-..brought fur for the traders -in exchange for metal implements. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
-Thompson came to the conclusion -that he had much to learn. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
-He was astounded by the Indians' -knowledge of the land around them. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
-"The Indians constantly -took note of everything. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
-"How a tiny stone -had been slightly moved. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
-"How a twig was bent or snapped. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
-"How a mark was left on the ground. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
-"To them, it was -a clearly legible language. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
-"I was eager to learn this language. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
-"I took careful note -of everything they showed me." | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
-The first nations believed in living -as one and in balance with nature... | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
-..and nobody was given -land ownership. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
-The Creator made the land... | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
-..and the Creator -would return us to the land. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
-Our spirits would move on. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
-Thompson had read -of the first nations... | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
-..and knew they lived -in a separate world. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
-He also knew that world -would rapidly disappear... | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
-..as traders occupied the interior -from their coastal settlements. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
-This world was about -to become paradise lost. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
-Perhaps he could learn -of that way of life... | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
-..before it disappeared forever. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:47 | |
-Looking back on his life -with the wisdom of age... | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
-..David Thompson clearly -remembered his first encounter... | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
-..with the fast flowing rivers -of the west. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
-He knew his hopes of becoming -a ship's captain were now futile... | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
-..but he was determined -to master the canoe. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
-The Indians made these vessels -using the bark of birch trees... | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
-..which grew on -the shores of Hudson Bay. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
-Thompson realised he would have -to master more than one craft... | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
-..if he was to become a fur trader. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
-How do use a canoe, -and how to treat wood. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
-He also realised he would have -to learn the Indian languages... | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
-..in order to bargain with them. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
-He learned of contact made with -the Blackfoot and Piegan tribes... | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
-..which traditionally hunted -along the Saskatchewan river... | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
-..a thousand miles west where but -a few white men had ever ventured. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
-FRENCH VOYAGEUR SONG | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
-Thompson would travel -deep into the interior... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
-..with a band of voyageurs, -half French and half Indian. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
-The voyageurs knew the rivers -flowing down from the Rockies... | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
-..like the back of their hand. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
-FRENCH VOYAGEUR SONG | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
-Thompson was just -seventeen at the time. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
-He was about to venture deeper -into this strange land... | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
-..than Samuel Hearn -had done in a lifetime. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
-The band planned to travel -up the Saskatchewan river... | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
-..which means "the river -that flows swiftly" in Cree. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
-Their aim was to reach the great -plains where buffalo roamed. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
-For centuries, the Indians had been -dependent upon these beasts... | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
-..for food, clothing, -and even for their teepees. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
-"They crossed in their thousands... | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
-"..and pressed against -our row of boats. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
-"We had to push them away -with our paddles... | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
-"..otherwise they -would have capsized us. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
-"Finally, the Rocky Mountains -came into view... | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
-"..glistening white on the horizon. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
-"As we neared them, -they grew ever higher... | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
-"..and their snow capped peaks -seemed above the clouds. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
-"This was a frontier beyond which -even the eagle could not fly." | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
-They had reached -Blackfoot country... | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
-..a tribe renowned -for their fierce fighting. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
-Here, Thompson stayed in -the tent of a tribal elder... | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
-..a spiritual leader -known as Saukamapee. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
-Saukamapee took Thompson -as his pupil... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
-..and spoke of a time -before the arrival of white men. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
-He described the intricate relation -between the Indians and the earth... | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
-..and the genealogy -of every living animal. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
-The beavers were an ancient tribe. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
-Strong and wise people. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
-No man would ever dare -to take them on in battle... | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
-"Almost every night for four months -I sat at the old man's feet... | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
-"..listening to stories -of which I never tired." | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
-Thompson recorded native poetry -in his record books... | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
-..and did so throughout his life. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
-Thompson belonged -through his own lineage... | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
-..to an ancient nation that -had its own history and culture. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
-Perhaps he looked to the Indians -for spiritual direction... | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
-..and to rediscover himself. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
-He learned much through -listening to Saukamapee. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
-"The Indians had always been -intrigued by the stars and planets. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
-"Who might live in -those bright settlements? | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
-"The Indians believed they were -where spirits lived... | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
-"..the spirits of people -who had lived good lives." | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
-Thompson came to believe, -like the Indians... | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
-..that the earth -was a gift from the Creator. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
-He also came to believe -in the law of providence... | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
-..which would soon intervene -in his life once more. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
-Finally, the time came for Thompson -to depart this place... | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
-..which was not marked on any map. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
-He travelled back -a thousand miles to the east... | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
-..and to the monotony -of life in the fur factories. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
-Two days before Christmas in 1788, -carrying timber to the station... | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
-..Thompson slipped on the ice -and broke his leg. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
-For weeks, Thompson hovered -between life and death. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
-He slowly regained his strength, -and was on his feet again by spring. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
-He determined to give up -his duty as a clerk. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
-Once again, fate smiled upon him. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
-Philip Turnor was the only -astronomer for two thousand miles. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
-He took on Thompson -as his assistant. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
-The boy was too intelligent -to waste as a clerk. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
-Thompson learned the craft of -the surveyor and the astronomer... | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
-..two vital skills -for his work in the future. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
-He learned how to work out -geographical location... | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
-..by looking at the stars. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
-He learned to use a compass -and measuring implements. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
-Philip Turnor showed him -how to avoid being blinded... | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
-..by darkening the lens -when looking into the sun. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
-"The equipment I used -to survey the stars... | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
-"..were a brass measuring device -with a radius of ten inches... | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
-"..and a strong telescope to -follow the satellites of Jupiter. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
-"I regularly used this equipment -in clear weather... | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
-"..to follow the sun, the moon, -the planets and the stars." | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
-Thompson had found his Excalibur, -King Arthur's magical sword. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
-He was ready to face -his great adventure... | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
-..to chart the first accurate map -of the wild country... | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
-..stretching from Hudson Bay -to the Pacific. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
-By studying the expansive universe, -the world became infinite. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
-The Indians now referred to him -as "the man who gazes at the stars". | 0:18:01 | 0:18:07 | |
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-Thompson's first task -as a surveyor... | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
-..was to enter the Athabasca region -in northern Saskatchewan. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
-He was surveying for -the elusive north west passage... | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
-..as so many had done before him. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
-For the English, the passage -would open up the riches of Asia. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-But for those who belonged to -older races such as the Celts... | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
-..this was the passage to ancient -kingdoms of myth and legend. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
-But, that year, the rivers -were particularly treacherous. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
-The snow caps had melted -faster than usual. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
-"We rode above the falls. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
-"All we could do was let -the canoe follow the torrent." | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
-In an instant, the canoe -was thrown by the torrent... | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
-..and swallowed -by the crashing water. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
-Welsh legends depict the underworld -first as a pleasant place. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
-Water has a cleansing power, -to absolve people of sins... | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
-..and it is a place of purity. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
-But it's also a world of magic. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
-There is an echo of very -ancient myth in all of this... | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
-..transmitted down to us in -folk tales, even in the Mabinogi. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
-To the Celts, the sea and water -carried a great deal of symbolism. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
-Once again, -Thompson had been rescued... | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
-..from events -that might have killed him. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
-His experience at Manitou Falls -had a dramatic effect on him. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
-There's something -essentially Celtic about it... | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
-..and has to do with the way the -Celts looked upon the whole world. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
-The world was secret and sacred, -possessing of a magical element. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
-The creatures were sacred, trees -and birds in particular were sacred. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
-By day, Thompson was a fur trader... | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
-..dutiful to the contract signed at -Grey Coat School seven years earlier | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
-But, by night, he was a naturalist -and an astronomer... | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
-..and a maker of maps -in a new world full of magic. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
-He was also beginning -to feel frustrated. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
-The fur trade had only profit -as its goal... | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
-..but Thompson was -a prophet among profiteers. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
-A man whose vision was as expansive -as the land he surveyed. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
-In 1797, when his contract expired, -Thompson resigned... | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
-..and walked eighty miles -to join the North West Company. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
-"The wind was ferocious, with -drifting snow and leaden skies. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
-"I had no choice but to press on. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
-HOWLING WIND AND WOLVES | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
-The North West Company -and the Hudson's Bay Company... | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
-..were in competition -for the fur trade. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
-Thompson's old company -never forgave him. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
-The North West Company -was founded in 1783... | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
-..to open up the continent's -northern interior for trade. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
-A band of independent-minded -Scottish traders were the founders. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
-The company was ideal -for a man like Thompson. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
-Thompson was immediately sent to -survey the Canadian-American border. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
-His task was to chart tributaries -of the Mississippi... | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
-..and establish a commercial link -with Indians south of the border. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
-Thompson and his fellow travellers -reached Mandan territory. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
-He noted similarities between -Mandan boats and the Welsh coracle. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
-Legend told that the Mandans -were the descendants... | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
-..of Welsh pioneers -six hundred years previously. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
-But David Thompson -made no mention of this... | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
-..or of other Welsh travellers -who had been there before him. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
-"There were twenty-four maidens -dancing in white buckskin... | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
-"..with ornamented bands to display -their form as in a silk gown." | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
-Thompson was witness -at a Mandan feast... | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
-..beginning to the sound -of sad howling... | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
-..and culminating in -a celebration of sexuality. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
-The sight shamed him, particularly -as his own men took part... | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
-..in what Thompson described -as a devilish ritual. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
-Always an isolated figure, Thompson -fought with his own, rough men... | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
-..heavy drinkers who took sexual -advantage of the native women. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
-He travelled north again -to the Athabasca region... | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
-..in search of new horizons. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
-He was now aged twenty-nine. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
-He arrived at Isle a la Croix, -deep in Indian territory. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
-There he met his lifetime partner, -Charlotte Small... | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
-..whose mother was a Cree Indian, -and her father an Irish trader. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
-The two were married -in a simple ceremony. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
-Charlotte became known -as "woman of the paddle song". | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
-She was familiar -with the wild rivers... | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
-..flowing from the mountains -to the broad plains. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
-Charlotte and Thompson would travel -thousands of miles together. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
-With winter approaching, the two -travelled up the Saskatchewan... | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
-..to the foot of the range -that the Indians called... | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
-.."the shining mountains, -the backbone of the world". | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
-Thompson visited many stations -owned by the North West Company... | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
-..and settled in -Rocky Mountain House. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
-But he was dismayed -by what he saw there. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
-Personal belongings or material -wealth meant nothing to the Indians. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
-But alcohol could be drunk -there and then... | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
-..and the traders could -put a premium on liquor. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
-Drunkenness among the Indians -caused all kind of havoc. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
-Some were killed in drunken brawls. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
-One appalling story describes -a baby being torn in half... | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
-..as two drunken Indians -fought over it. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
-"Whatever service -the Indians fulfil... | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
-"..they are rewarded with alcohol, -sometimes over several days. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
-"The men and women are all drunk, -and are utterly disgraced." | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
-Thompson was also torn in two. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
-His ambition was to become a partner -in the North West Company... | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
-..yet he yearned for -the world of Saukamapee. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
-Perhaps he could resolve this -conflict in the Shining Mountains. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
-Charlotte Small and David Thompson -returned to Saukamapee... | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
-..only to find the old man -had died the previous year. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
-They established a new trading post -for the North West Company... | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
-..and at Rocky Mountain House -they settled into family life. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
-Since a young man, -Thompson had dreamed... | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
-..of making a map of the unfamiliar -land he had now charted. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
-That map would extend -all the way to the coast. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
-Now, he set about the task -of realising his dream. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
-Every night, he went out -to complete his picture... | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
-..of the shape and form -of this new continent. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
-With clear nights, he would work -every night for months at a time... | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
-..until he lost the sight -in one eye. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
-Thompson was sent by the -North West Company in Montreal... | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
-..to chart a course -through the mountains... | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
-..that would open a trade route -to the west. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
-On May 10th, Thompson travelled -up the Saskatchewan... | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
-..which was at that time -being choked by the spring floods. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
-"The greatest obstacle was our being -constantly soaked up to the waist... | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
-"..and having to travel unprotected -into the strong cold, biting winds. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
-"We faced ice cold water that -came directly from the snowcaps... | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
-"..and our legs -became numb and useless." | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
-Thompson reached the plains... | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
-..that were once the sacred hunting -grounds of the first nations. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
-Here, in a sheltered valley, -the last buffalo herds gathered... | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
-..and people who faced extinction -also gathered with them. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
-Hunters had tracked their prey -through these mountains... | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
-..for ten thousand years. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
-The Indians drew a map of these -ancient hunting paths for Thompson. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
-Like travelling pilgrims... | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
-..they neared the place Saukamapee -called the backbone of the world. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
-The source of the river - -the rubicon. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
-"In this remarkable and forbidding -land, capped by perpetual snow... | 0:29:59 | 0:30:05 | |
-"..the prospect east from the -heights was vast and uninterrupted. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
-"The naked eye could not discern -where the land ended. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
-"To the west, I saw the swell -of hills and rocky outcrops. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:22 | |
-"Never did I see anything -that so resembled the rolling sea... | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
-"..in a fierce winter's gale." | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
-Throughout his life, Thompson -strove to understand new ideas. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
-He was particularly -interested in geology... | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
-..as intellectuals began to question -a literal interpretation of Genesis. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
-Evidence could prove the world was -far older than the creation myth. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
-Thompson was attempting to write the -geological history of North America. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
-This was before geology was -recognised among the sciences. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
-The river that led to the rubicon -was the Howse... | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
-..one of the minor rivers -flowing from the Saskatchewan. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
-Today, the river's source in the -mountains is known as Howse Pass. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
-Thompson had reached the place -where two continents divided... | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
-..and where rivers sprang -to flow into three oceans. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
-"We came across a spring that -flowed away from us to the west. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
-"Its current must have joined up -with the Pacific Ocean. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
-"May God in his wisdom show us -where its gushing water flows." | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
-This was rugged country, -a nightmare for a young family... | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
-..as though the valley had become -a seething mass of melted snow. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
-"At three in the afternoon, -my small daughter went missing. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
-"Failing to find her, -we concluded that she had drowned. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
-"We searched for her in the river, -but to no avail. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:22 | |
-"After a short while, -Mr MacDonald found trace of her. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
-"After our long search, at about -half past eight in the evening... | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
-"..we found her a mile away, -sheltering under a snow mound. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:43 | |
-"Thank the Lord." | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
-There was much to be thankful for, -having overcome deceptive gorges... | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
-..as a broad valley -opened up in front of them. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
-Thompson recorded their position, -and concluded they had arrived... | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
-..at the confluence of -the Blaeberry and Columbia rivers. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
-Never had the ground felt -so firm beneath his feet. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
-From then on, every river and -every spot would be new to him. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
-The next day, he travelled -up the Columbia river. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
-Little did he know that he had -discovered the river's plateau. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
-This was the river that Welshman -Merryweather Lewis had travelled... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
-..as he sought to extend the -boundaries of the United States. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
-On his arrival there, Thompson -established Kootanae House station. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
-Thompson was unable -to find enough food. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
-With fast approaching winter, -he feared famine ahead. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
-It was essential that -they could catch fish... | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
-..but fish weren't always -in plentiful supply. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
-Then, as if in reply to a prayer... | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
-..shoals of salmon -swam upstream from the sea. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
-"The salmon tasted good, -but they had lost their fat. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
-"The meat was firm and red. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
-"The Indians heed well that which -they believe nourishes the salmon. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
-"As with all other things, they -respect the Manitou for its gifts." | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
-Little wonder, in view of -his Welsh background... | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
-..that Thompson respected the -stories and beliefs of the Indians. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
-It's pretty clear -that David Thompson... | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
-..felt an affinity with the Indians. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
-They respected the earth -and its creatures. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
-I like to think that he -looked upon the salmon... | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
-..as some kind of kindred spirit. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
-The salmon, so to speak, -had the kind of energy... | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
-..that could overcome every obstacle -and traverse every boundary. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:22 | |
-Thompson would have also -learned something of that... | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
-..from the ancient Celtic tales. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
-For example, we have the wonderful -story of 'Culhwch ac Olwen'. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
-There, the Salmon of Llyn Llyw, -the oldest among all animals... | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
-..leads and carries two -Arthurian knights on his back. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:47 | |
-He carries them up the river -to Gloucester. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
-Like the beaver in the tales -told by Saukamapee... | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
-..the Salmon of Llyn Llyw was strong -and wise, and far older than man. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
-Thompson arrived at -another rubicon in his life. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
-As a full partner in -the North West Company... | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
-..he opened up new territory -to trade... | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
-..and provide a new passage -to the Pacific. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
-Yet, as a naturalist and a friend -to the natives of this land... | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
-..he was concerned for the future -of the rugged land he had made home. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
-With the passing years, his ties -to the first nations were weakening. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
-Every dance Thompson was witness to -was now a war dance. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
-Now, in addition -to his writing pen... | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
-..Thompson carried a gun to -protect himself from the Indians. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
-In 1808, he sent Charlotte -and their children back... | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
-..to the safety of the -Saskatchewan trading stations. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
-As the fur trade -prospered and developed... | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
-..the lot of the native Indians -deteriorated. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
-The two things went hand in hand. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:26 | |
-Commercial prosperity -and moral disintegration... | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
-..profit and drunkenness. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
-Thompson believed alcohol and guns -were the root of the problem... | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
-..and he refused to use these -destructive tools for bargaining. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
-But Thompson could not -stop the tide by himself. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
-As guns and liquor -crossed the mountains... | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
-..traders were -increasingly being killed. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
-Travel became dangerous. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
-Thompson now had to cross -the frontier far to the north... | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
-..and there he discovered -the Athabasca passage. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
-The competition for fur had now -become an international issue. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
-The Americans sent men to -establish a trading station... | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
-..at the mouth of -the Columbia river. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
-The North West Company -instructed Thompson... | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
-..to travel there ahead of them. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
-He pointed his canoe south and -set off on the journey in summer... | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
-..to travel nearly a thousand miles -to the Pacific. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
-On July 15th 1811, he reached -the estuary of the Columbia river. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
-It was the furthest extreme -of the enormous map... | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
-..that Thompson always kept -in his mind. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
-But the Americans, -with their barrels of rum... | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
-..had got there before him. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
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-To the Americans, the only -good Indian was a dead Indian. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
-In the east, the white men quashed -any resistance from the Indians. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
-With government blessing, -wars to dispossess the Indians... | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
-..spread across the Mississippi -and to the west. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
-Through the century, -one tribe after another... | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
-..would be hounded -from their ancient lands. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
-Thompson journeyed on to the north. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
-He wanted no part of the -annihilation that was to come. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
-Yet, as he journeyed -he was surveying. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
-He claimed the territory -of Columbia... | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
-..most of Washington, -Idaho and modern-day Montana... | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
-..for the English Crown. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:13 | |
-He worried for Charlotte -and their children. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
-People of mixed race were -once considered a success... | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
-..in combining the best -of the old world and the new. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
-But now, people of -mixed race were outcast. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
-"Civilised men, particularly -those in the United States... | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
-"..carried a moral hostility -towards the North American Indians. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
-"It is confidently predicted that -the redskins will soon be extinct... | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
-"..as their lands are -occupied by white men. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
-"This is true of lands formerly -in possession of the redskins. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
-"White men have jumped -at the opportunity... | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
-"..to take them -either by deceit or violence. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
-"What does it benefit man -to gain the whole world... | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
-"..if he loses his own soul?" | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
-Thompson knew the time had come -for him to leave the west. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
-His mind turned to the long -journey with his family... | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
-..to the safety of Montreal. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
-"At last, I have finished surveying -this part of North America... | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
-"..from ocean to ocean. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:53 | |
-"Measuring the heavens -has accurately mapped... | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
-"..the positions of -mountains, lakes and rivers... | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
-"..and other wondrous places -in the north of this continent." | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
-Thompson bade farewell to this place -after thirty-two years... | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
-..since he first arrived in -this vast and remote land as a boy. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
-When war broke out between -Canada and America in 1812... | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
-..Thompson returned to work -on a map of the North West... | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
-..at the request of his partners. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
-He mapped over -four million square miles... | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
-..of this wild and unfamiliar land. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
-He kept notes during -all of his travels... | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
-..on locations, places, -words and figures... | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
-..that would recreate a picture -of the landscape in his mind. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
-In 1814, he brought all his notes -and measurements together... | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
-..to create a remarkably -beautiful map. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
-Thompson could now retire as a full -partner in the North West Company. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
-He lived for a while -as a country squire. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
-Fate or providence sustained him -through difficult years... | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
-..but was unkind towards him -during his final years. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
-The British government handed back -territories in Columbia to America. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
-Some of his children fell ill -with intestinal parasites... | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
-..and two of them died. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
-The two sides of David Thompson -became apparent. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
-While concerned for his wife... | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
-..he prepared a coffin -for one of his children. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
-He accurately noted the length -of three feet and nine inches. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
-The humane, compassionate side -and the meticulous, scientific side. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
-Towards the end of his life, -Thompson went bankrupt. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
-The North West Company was -taken over by his old foes... | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
-..the Hudson's Bay Company. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:19 | |
-Now, with failing eyesight, -he sought work with his old company. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
-He was rejected, but accepted -some surveying duties... | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
-..by some of the company's employees -building houses in Montreal. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
-But there was no welcome -for Charlotte, the half-caste... | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
-..in the homes of these people. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
-During his life, Thompson overcame -many geographical obstacles... | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
-..but failed to overcome the social -obstacle at the end of his life. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
-There are sad stories of Thompson -knocking on the affluent doors... | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
-..asking for loans, only to have -doors rudely slammed in his face. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
-He had to pawn his winter coat, -and even his cartographic tools. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
-He opened up a continent, -but every door was closed to him. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
-At the end of his life, he decided -to write his autobiography. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
-He had a great story to tell, -the heroic adventure... | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
-..of this Welsh naturalist, -the mapmaker's epic. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
-He titled his autobiography -'The Travels'. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
-It started with his arrival -on the shore of Hudson Bay... | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
-..a boy fresh from Grey Court School -seventy years previously. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
-He tried to sell his maps -and his autobiography... | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
-..but nobody was interested. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
-Thompson died on February 10th 1857. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
-Like the ancient salmon, -and the Salmon of Llyn Llyw... | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
-..he returned to -the source of the river. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
-Three months later, -Charlotte followed her husband. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
-They were both buried -by their children... | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
-..in Mount Royal cemetery, Montreal. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
-In many ways, -Thompson was the first Canadian. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:28 | |
-He loved the land and its people... | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
-..and carried a great vision -for the future of Canada. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
-For some years, -all mention of Thompson ceased. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
-He disappeared completely, -until another pioneer, J B Tyrell... | 0:46:41 | 0:46:47 | |
-..discovered the maps and notebooks. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
-Tyrell concluded that Thompson -was the greatest geographer ever... | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
-..in the history of the world. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
-"The man who gazes at the stars." | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
-The Celtic Isle of Avalon, and the -Shining Mountains of the Indians... | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
-..are actually the same place. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
-Neither one nor the other -can be found on any map. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
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