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This programme contains some strong language. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
The Royal Opera House, Covent Garden. One of the world's great stages, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
where only the best of the best ever get to perform. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
Opera's the ultimate art form. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
It's everything. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
It's orchestral music, it's vocal sound, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
it's the most wonderful visual display. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
And ultimately, it's drama. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
It's the most powerful drama in the world. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
And the conductor is in charge of everything. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
Being in the middle of the orchestra there's nothing quite like it. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
All these people coming together can create something | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
so beautiful, so powerful and so emotional. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
In this series, four hopefuls are competing for the ultimate honour - | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
to conduct a real opera performance in this house. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
I see a lot of them doing that with their hands, doing that! | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
None of them has ever conducted before. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
I can't remember which instruments are actually involved in this piece. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
I don't read music in any shape or form. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
I mean, how am I going to know to turn the page over? | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
If you've never conducted an opera before, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
it's the most challenging thing you can think of doing. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
I didn't do that properly, did I? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
Flipping heck! | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
It could be somebody's worst nightmare. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
It's the experience of a lifetime. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
I feel violently ill. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
I was shaking so much I couldn't do the triangles. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
Who wouldn't jump at the chance to have an orchestra | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
and singers at your mercy? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
That was terrifying. It didn't go well. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
I think have I got the bottle to stand up in front of thousands | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
of people, do something I'm not skilled at doing... | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Practice, practice, practice. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
..and pull it off? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
Bloody hell, that is so hard! | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
There can only be one winner. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
Ye-e-e-es! | 0:01:48 | 0:01:49 | |
There can only be one Maestro At The Opera. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
Our four absolute beginners are about | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
to start a crash course in conducting opera. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
All have ambitions to take to the podium. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
But each week they will be judged by a panel of opera experts | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
and one of them will be asked to leave. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
-What are we doing today? -I don't know. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
I think they've got something ghastly in mind. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
They're about to meet the chair of the judges, Sir Mark Elder. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
One of the most renowned opera and symphonic conductors in the world. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
Top conductors all have their own unique personal style. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
Sir Mark wants to test our students' natural musical instincts | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
by throwing them in at the deep end with a full orchestra... | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
and singers. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
I'm setting them this challenge because I want to find out | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
whether they can hear and feel music. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
Everybody has this idea that conducting is just simply | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
waving your arms around and it'll all be fine. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
Well, it's not. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
I can't imagine that they've done anything as hard as this. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
Picking up the baton are choreographer, Craig Revel Horwood. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
'Disaster.' | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
Strictly Come Dancing's Mr Nasty. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
'Darling, you made it up almost from beginning to end.' | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
I'm going in this with a very open mind and I'm hoping | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
I will feel I understand just a small part of the opera world. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:51 | |
Oxford professor of mathematics and broadcaster, Marcus du Sautoy. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
'As a mathematician | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
'I'm fascinated by the patterns we see all around us.' | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
I really fell in love with opera as a kid. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
I'll tell you, if I had to do a Jim'll Fix It, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
I would probably have chosen to do this. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
In the olden days, pound shops were very expensive establishments... | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
Josie Lawrence, actor and legendary comedy improviser. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
'..candles, batteries for my household needs...' | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
I want to do my hardest and work hard, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
but I want to have a laugh. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
I might even find a husband, a nice bassoonist or something. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
'First for hot new music, BBC...' | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
And finally the UK's premier urban music DJ. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
'This is Trevor Nelson on BBC Radio 1Xtra. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
'Still to come we've got some Ed Sheeran and some Drake after this.' | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
I'm doing this because it's one musical form | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
that I've never ever embraced, ever. I mean ever. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
So I'm hoping I learn something. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
Oh my God. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
Look at everybody. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
This looks nice, darlings. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
-This is not fair. -Hi. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
Well, good evening, I'm Sir Mark Elder. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
-Hello. -Evening, Sir Mark. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
And it's lovely to welcome you here in the Royal Opera House. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
And the idea tonight is that you should conduct. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
We'd like you to conduct an aria, a solo spot number. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
Here to work with you is the Chelsea Opera Group. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
And to sing these arias for you are four talented young artists | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
from the Royal Opera. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:39 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
The plan is that you should listen | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
to each of your pieces for about 15 minutes | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
and then come back and see how we go. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Good luck and we're all dying to see how you do. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
That's not on! | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
-That's so unfair. -That is ridiculous. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
15 minutes to do what people learn in 15 years. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
'An aria is when the action stops' | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
and the singer conveys what they're feeling to the audience. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
It's quite ethereal, it sort of floats through the air | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
and that's why it's called aria. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
It's got... It's got space. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
It's the outpouring of enormous emotion, anger or passion. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
It's how they feel in that moment. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
Sir Mark has selected four of the greatest arias | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
in the operatic repertoire. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
# O mio babbino caro... # | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
It's so slow. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:36 | |
For Trevor it's the soulful pleading of O Mio Babbino Caro, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
sung by a daughter to her father in Puccini's opera Gianni Schicchi. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
It's a beautiful piece. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
I'm not deaf, it is a beautiful piece. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
It's so subtle though, that's my problem, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
I thought I'd have something with a bit of a step, you know? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
Craig gets the pride and pomp of the Toreador's song from Bizet's Carmen. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
Josie's aria is from the same opera. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
At least I've heard this before. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
Trevor's never heard his before. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
Carmen is a sultry gipsy girl and this is her playful opening number. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
I could just dance it. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
And for Marcus it's the tenor aria Una Furtiva Lagrima, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
sung by the lovesick hero of Donizetti's The Love Potion. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
It's not a big piece, it's very delicate. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
Now it's getting bigger, now it's getting bigger. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
Whoa, there it goes, there, that's the push. Ooh. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
And up to the big notes. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
That's what he wants to hold onto. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
First to take up the baton is Craig. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
The orchestra have been instructed | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
to follow exactly what each conductor does. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
For better or for worse. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
I love a challenge, I love going into unknown worlds, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
and opera is something I'm nervous of. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
'Five, six, seven and... One-two, three-four.' | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
I had background in music because I played the recorder at school | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
and I moved on to the French Horn. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
'This is perfect. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
'If we ever ended up like that, we'd be delighted, wouldn't we?' | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
And then I became a dancer. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:48 | |
When I turned 30, I decided to go into choreography. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
I've even done some operas. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
I was really scared of it, though, when I first went into that world, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
because I come from musical theatre which is all | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
"There's no business like showbusiness", you know, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
all bump and grind. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:12 | |
And that's completely the antithesis of classical music. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:18 | |
# Toreador, en garde... # | 0:09:27 | 0:09:33 | |
Craig's covering his nerves with extreme flamboyance. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
He feels the music pretty well, but it's all much too balletic. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:43 | |
I sort of got into it at one stage where I thought, oh yeah, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
this is all right, I'm loving this bit. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
But then of course it changes, so you get carried away with yourself. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Oh! Just glad that bit's over. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Thank you. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
Oh! I have to say... | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
I have to say I can't remember | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
which instruments are actually involved in this piece, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
but I cue you by probably waving this baton. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
OK. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
MUSIC STARTS | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
HE HUMS THE ARIA | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
What's the cue for you then? | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
I thought I looked at you. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
-Just looking, no. -What is the cue for you then? | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
-You have to show me when to come in. -How? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
-Because you didn't move, you just look at me. -I'm sorry, guys. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
'I can't pretend that I like opera. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
'To me, it's all massive voices,' | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
females screeching at the male, who's bellowing back at her, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
or something like that, it's all very preposterous and posh. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
I thought the conductor was just for show | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
and he was just waving his baton freaking out, as if to say, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
"What about me? Look at me!" That kind of thing. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
Since the age of ten, I've had no musical training at all. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
I can't read music, I can't play an instrument. I mean, anything. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
But secretly I have a grudging admiration | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
for people who can make classical music. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
MUSIC STARTS | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
# O mio babbino caro... # | 0:12:02 | 0:12:09 | |
No, he's not setting the tempo right. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
# Mi piace | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
# E bello, bello... # | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
But he's so calm in his physicality. That's really amazing. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
# Vo'andare in Porta Rossa... # | 0:12:24 | 0:12:31 | |
It's an amazing power - | 0:12:31 | 0:12:32 | |
it's like having some sort of weapon | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
that you don't know how to use. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
So you're there, leading an army and you're doing it wrong. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
One minute, you're powerful, the next, you're that small. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
# Si, si... # | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
I felt really vulnerable, man. Although I smiled through it, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
the truth is I didn't know what I was doing. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Er, hello. I'm Marcus du Sautoy. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
Um...I'm a mathematician, but I'm also a trumpeter. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
HE PLAYS A TUNE | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
I really got into music when my music teacher | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
at my comprehensive school said, "Do you want to learn an instrument?" | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
And three of us kind of put our hands up and said, "Yeah!" | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
HE PLAYS A JAUNTY TUNE | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
And so I did all my exams, I got up to Grade Eight Trumpet With Merit. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:23 | |
And I did a lot of orchestral playing. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
But I've never, ever conducted. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
I think opera is, for me, the ultimate art form. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
For me, winning this competition would be extraordinary, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
because I love music - it's part of my life. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
# Quelle festose... # | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
Now, Marcus's problem seems to be that it's too... | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
aggressive. It's too tense and hard. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
# Invidiar sembro... # | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
But...he has talent. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
He has a feel for being there. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
# Che piu cercando io vo? # | 0:14:03 | 0:14:11 | |
I really enjoyed it. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
And it is just an extraordinary energy | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
just coursing through that room. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
And you're deciding when it's going on. That's...amazing. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
# L'amour | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
# L'amour | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
# L'amour... # | 0:14:33 | 0:14:34 | |
Josie, in her natural element. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
Immediately, you can see it, can't you? The comedienne. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
Very, very witty, lively person. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
# Il n'a jamais, jamais connu... # | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
I'm going to work really hard and take it seriously. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
You know, these people are professional musicians | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
and I don't want to go in there as a sort of comedy klutz. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:14:54 | 0:14:55 | |
'Please welcome Miss Josie Lawrence!' | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
CHEERING | 0:14:58 | 0:14:59 | |
JAUNTY PIANO TUNE | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
Josie may have no experience of conducting, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
but she has her own distinctive encounters with opera | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
on the improvised comedy circuit. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
# We have many, many miles to go | 0:15:09 | 0:15:15 | |
# Ha, ha, ha! | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
# This is no laughing matter! # | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
'I haven't really had any musical training, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
'although I have really loved singing from the year dot.' | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
# Oh, shit, I cannot see! # | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Freeze! Do they say "shit" in opera? | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
-All the time. -Oh, OK. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
'I'm hoping what I've done before will help.' | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
I know I've got a sense of rhythm, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
I know I've got a sense of the dramatic, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
so that's two things in my favour, I guess. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
# Si tu ne m'aime pas... # | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
Now, we've got to the last part. This is the hard thing... | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
..because the singer stops and does a lovely pause on her top note, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
and then the orchestra's got to come in after her. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
# Prend garde a toi! # | 0:16:00 | 0:16:07 | |
THEY ALL PLAY AT DIFFERENT TIMES JOSIE LAUGHS | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Thank you so much! | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
She just didn't know how to do the last part. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
I didn't feel in control at all. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
I felt like a silly woman waving her arms about, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
which is exactly what I was. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
But I did enjoy it, and they were lovely. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Lovely. And God knows what they think about us lot... | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
treading on their turf. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Craig had the worst go at it. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
He relied a lot on...dancing. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
Whilst he was waving his arms around, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
it didn't really have much to do with how many beats | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
were in a bar or which bit of the bar we were in. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
Mathematician, the most boring of the lot - he was really slow. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
He was... | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
Oh, man alive! You just wanted to go, "Wake up! Come on!" | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
Josie Lawrence looked like she was enjoying it more. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
Interesting, as well, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
she was the only one actually mouthing the words. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
I, straight away, got what she wants. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
And I'm very surprised and impressed. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
The revelation for me was Trevor Nelson. He is really good. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:19 | |
He's... He's such a natural. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
It was great to see him really move with the music as well, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
and feel it with his whole body and not be rigid. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
See you! | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
None of what we saw tonight could one call good conducting, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
because they don't have the technique and the tools to do a good job. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
I'd say they were, from that point of view, pretty evenly matched. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
So I think it's a good first step and everything's open now. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
At the end of the competition, one of our students will conduct | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
at the Royal Opera House, in front of a discerning audience. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
To see how it should be done, Sir Mark has arranged for them | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
to join the 2,000-strong Opera House audience for a performance | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
of Mozart's The Marriage Of Figaro. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
'This will be the first opera I've ever seen in my life.' | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
To sit for three and a half hours through it...will be interesting. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
Ooh, a box. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
The thought of standing on that podium with all these people | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
in this place - I think I would just faint. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
You'd just see a hand go up... | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
and then fall. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
And that would be it! | 0:18:33 | 0:18:34 | |
And the sound of a "twank" as the baton lands on the floor. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
Tonight's conductor is the music director of the Royal Opera House, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
Sir Antonio Pappano... | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
..one of the world's most charismatic | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
and experienced orchestral conductors. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
MUSIC: "The Marriage Of Figaro - Overture" by Mozart | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
The whole idea of conducting, we think, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
"leadership, driving the music." | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
In that sense, I think you're almost like conducting for a film. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
You have to create atmosphere, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
you have to create the situation that brings the audience in. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
Support the singer, drive the singers. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
You have to bring them to heaven, you know? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
# Ora si ch'io son contenta | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
# Sembra fatto inver per me... # | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
His conducting is amazing. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
He was full of life, he was full of the joys of what he does | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
and it transmitted to us, all the way up in the balcony. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Well, he looked like he hadn't broken out into a sweat. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
He'd been on their for three and a half hours, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
really joyously taking it all in and this rhythm that he's got as well. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
After the curtain calls, the four students are invited backstage | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
to meet Pappano and get some tips. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
What are you thinking?! THEY LAUGH | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
Ten weeks to do that?! | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
-It looked easy, the way you did it. -Yes, joyous, watching you. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
Yeah, you're going to confront situations | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
where you're going to be in difficulty, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
but remember that it's music and it's there to... | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
Yeah, there are challenges, but even in a short period of time, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
you'll find your either style... | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
There are certain things that have to be a certain way, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
but if you've got spirit, then show it, you know? | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
And if you've got rhythm, then show it, you know? | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
I'm just terrified about the whole thing, really. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
I mean, you looked like you were dancing up there, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
that's what it looked like to me. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
Yeah. You just hit the nail on the head. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
If it's got... Look. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
-Two, three. -Exactly. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:45 | |
If it's got that in it, it's spring, it has a spring in its step. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
-We'll keep that in mind. -Thank you so much. -Good luck. And... | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
'This is the biggest ask in the world.' | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
It's like asking somebody to referee the cup final | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
when they've never been on a football pitch. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
It's HUGE! | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
I wouldn't like to go into an orchestra pit. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
I always think it must be like going into the lion's den. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
Everyone's waiting to savage you. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
The students are about to meet four professional opera conductors, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
who will guide them through the basics of their craft. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
Ah, fantastic! | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
Would you like a drink? | 0:21:24 | 0:21:25 | |
In one week's time, they'll be judged on a performance | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
of their arias at the Royal Opera House. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
I've set up my whole house as a music room. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
Lessons start at the beginning, and when it comes to conducting music, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
that means the upbeat - the very first signal the conductor gives. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
'Upbeats are so important.' | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
So much energy and communication | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
is conveyed in the manner of the upbeat. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
The gesture - that launches a piece of music - | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
has to contain everything about the music. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
Not just how fast or how slow it is, but how loud or how soft it is, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
what the emotional temperature of the music is. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Everything has to be in that first gesture. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Imagine that my hands are the table for the moment, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
-so you're really going to shove them to the floor. -Yeah, OK. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
And "boom," and then "fwoosh!" | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
-Good, OK. -Massive, huge energy so that your arms really fly high. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
Yeah. Lovely! | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
One, two, three, four! | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
-One, two, three... -It's like you throw a ball up in the air | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
and you know where it's going to land. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Once the orchestra has started playing, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
it's the conductor's job to beat time with their right hand, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
leaving the left hand free to indicate expression and mood. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
What the orchestra require is for you to be down for beat one | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
and up for beat two. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
So on a really, really basic level, if there's no emotional input, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
just purely like a machine, what you're basically doing is... | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
# Bom | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
# Ber-dum, bom-bom... # | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
Oh! I did that. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
-So what we're doing is beat one is their low note. -Yeah. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
Beat two is the high note. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
Whilst Josie and Trevor tackle two beats in a bar... | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
Really, um... | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
-Stiff? -Yeah. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
..Craig and his mentor, Michael Rosewell, go two better. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
And one, two, three, four. And one, two, three, four. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
-And one, two... -Can you do a three, so you're coming in on three? | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
One, two, three. One, two, three. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
One, two, three. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
# Ai, ai, ai, ai... # | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
Now that the four students have grasped the essentials of beating time... | 0:23:24 | 0:23:29 | |
Are we going through here? | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
..there are two days of intensive instruction and aria rehearsal. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
And the first thing they have to learn | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
is what their singers will need from them. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Their guide through this potential minefield | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
is the mezzo soprano, Kathryn Harries. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
What I'd like to achieve today | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
is to see what it's like from the singer's perspective, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
so you actually have a real partnership. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
# Ah-ah-ah-ah... # | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
Successful opera conductors have | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
an understanding of what the singers are going through. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
They tend to be sensitive to the breathing, to the needs of a singer. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:10 | |
SHE SINGS HABANERA FROM CARMEN AND LAUGHS | 0:24:10 | 0:24:16 | |
That might be ever so slightly off-putting. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
Is that famous expression, "less is more?" Come on, Marcus. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
SHE HUMS HABANERA FROM CARMEN | 0:24:26 | 0:24:34 | |
Marcus, don't look like an axe murderer, dear. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
I think, for you, it's about a little bit more relaxation. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
If you get rigid, then you communicate rigidity. OK? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
All right, that was very good indeed. Trevor, your turn. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
-You're going to sing. -Am I? | 0:24:49 | 0:24:50 | |
I do hope these conductors nowhere to sing. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
They're going to need to know where to breathe. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
They're going to need to know what a phrase feels like physically. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
# My name is Trevor Nelson | 0:25:01 | 0:25:07 | |
# I work for BBC. # | 0:25:07 | 0:25:12 | |
-Fantastic. Excellent, well done. -Oh, that's so sweet! | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
-You have a future, my dear. -Where? | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
I'm not quite sure. But I'll think of it. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
OK, do all please trust that you are musicians, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
and if there are things that you do, like you frown a bit. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
And Craig, because you're a dancer, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
-your default position is to do slightly too much. -Yes. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
And from a singer's point of view, if there's too much going on | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
with the conductor, it's distracting. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
Talk to your singers, ask them what they need from you, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
and I'm sure they will give it to you. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
Thank you. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
Our four students are now ready to develop their own | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
interpretations of their arias with their singers. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
Craig is working with singer Daniel Grice on the Toreador Song from Bizet's Carmen. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
I think we should bash in, and see what happens. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
It's sung by a bullfighter to his adoring fans. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
And you tell me what you need. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
-OK. We'll find out, went we? -Well, we will, darling. -The Toreador Song. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
Very familiar, incredibly rhythmic. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
So, you need a very, very strong gesture to get it going, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:22 | |
and a strong feel for the... | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
HE SINGS THE RHYTHM | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
This aria is actually very tricky, because my singing line is supposed | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
to be quite smooth over the top of a jagged sound from an orchestra. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
# Vortre toast, je peux vous le rendre | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
# Senors, senors, car avec les soldats... # | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
A vital part of a conductor's job | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
is to agree the feel of an aria with the singer. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
-Great. All right? -What interpretation do you want of this? | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
As you are the maestro here. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
-So, it sort of showing off in a way, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
-You know, it's a song of seduction, led by his penis, darling. -True. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
And I think that's what you need to play in it. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
OK. Cool. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
-When you get excited. -When you get excited I start... | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
Yes. I was trying not to get excited. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
His conducting style is very camp, but I'm not sure it will get | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
the best respect from an orchestra, that's the thing. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
# Et songe bien, oui, songe en combattant... # | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
My dancing's not really helping me, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
because I'm not allowed to use my legs, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
I'm not allowed to use my bum, I'm not allowed to use my hips, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
and that so frustrating. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Josie, and mentor, Steve Higgins are next door. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
And singer, Justina Gringyte is joining in to rehearse | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
Carmen's seductive Habanera. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
Welcome to the wondrous world of opera. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
I'm here to teach you all about it. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
THE LAUGH | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
What I'm going to try and convey through you, as my Carmen, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
is the sense of this magnificent creature telling everyone | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
what she thinks about love. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
You know, get the heat of it, and the playfulness and the passion. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
Come on, let's have a little go at it. Can we? That would be fantastic. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
She's being at her most evasive, Carmen. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
So, the tempo can't be too slow. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
# L'amour est un oiseau rebelle que nul ne peut apprivoiser... # | 0:28:34 | 0:28:41 | |
And she'll play around it, but that rhythm must be absolutely | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
rock solid underneath. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:45 | |
It goes into the second part. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
There are some traditional little pushes and pulls | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
that the singer might want to do. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
Just little meaningful winks! | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
# Si tu ne m'aimes pas, si tu ne m'aimes pas, je t'aime | 0:29:05 | 0:29:12 | |
Mais si je t'aime, si je t'aime, prends garde a toi. # | 0:29:14 | 0:29:26 | |
You're very good. She's so sure of herself, which is wonderful. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
Are you that sure of yourself with blokes? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
-Pretty much, yes. -She is! No wonder I'm single. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
Will you teach me how to flirt with blokes? | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
Sod the aria, let's go dating. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
Many great conductors find it more freeing to work from memory, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
and Trevor has too. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
So his mentor, Jessica Cottis, is working out a system | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
to guide him through his aria, Puccini's O Mio Babbino Caro. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
I've been thinking, because you don't read music, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
we need to get some version of the score on a piece of paper | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
for you to be able to memorise it. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
He doesn't read music, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
so everything that he does will be completely from here. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
We need to make sure he's comfortable under pressure, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
on the day, that he can come up with the goods. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
However you need to memorise, I'm going to write it down. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
One set, two sets. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
Of course, if you can't read music, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
you still have a fighting chance, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
because what matters is your communicative ability. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
The clarity of how you show everybody how much you love | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
this music, and you know how it should go. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Meanwhile, Marcus has a ready mastered his Donizetti aria, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
Una Furtiva Lagrima, but his mentor, Paul McGrath, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
is more concerned about facial expressions. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
You've got an amazing, big, shiny brain, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
but when you do this, you have to open it out to everybody. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
Yeah? Whereas this, "I've got all this data in my head. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
"I know that this is 83.6 beats per minute, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
"and I'm going to get ready now, I'm going to count." | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -We don't want to see your big brain like that. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:21 | |
We want to see your big brain, opened out. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
For me, personally, the best thing a conductor can do is look happy, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
because then it puts the singer at ease. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
Marcus has got to continue thinking about how he presents himself, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
what his face looks like, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
and how he's connecting to the people in the room. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
You know, I think he was quite upset that Katherine Harris | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
told him he looks like an axe murderer! | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
Conducting is, of course, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:55 | |
about an entire package of how a musician expresses | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
the inner meaning of the music through his personality, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
through his face, his eyes, and his gesture. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
Pierre Boulez is an example of a conductor who is immaculate, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
and always intensely clear for every beat of the bar. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
At the other end of the scale, you've got Leonard Bernstein, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
who was extremely exuberant, physically very free, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
responding to the moment, spontaneously, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
and creating a different relationship with an orchestra. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
For me, the conductor can't conduct with just one gesture, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
you've got to have variety, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
you've got to be able to respond to the inner life of the music. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
In their quest to become great conductors our students | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
-are given sessions on multitasking. -Do you know what it is yet? | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
Body language, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
and keeping time. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
Everything a budding maestro needs to know before taking to the podium. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
There really is so much to learn in a very short space of time. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:17 | |
I hope I can do it. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:20 | |
Our four would be conductors are returning | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
to the Royal Opera House, to show their skills. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
I'm really nervous, but hopefully, that will disappear | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
when I walk through this door. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
But at the end of the day one of them will be | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
voted out of the competition. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
Home sweet home. Today's finally come. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
All of this fuss and trepidation, and sleepless nights. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
I'm either in, or I'm out, but I'm going to do my best to enjoy it. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:54 | |
-That's all I'm thinking. -Focus. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
I suppose the only worry is, "am I going to blank?" | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
Am I just going to go, "what's next? I haven't a clue what comes next!" | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
If I start to think, "oh, it's a competition," I'll be a mess. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
So, at the moment I'm really in my, "I'm a performer," zone. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
I think it's horrific role reversal, actually. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
It's nasty being judged, so I have to get on, do my best, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
if that's not good enough, then chuck me out. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
This morning they each have a rehearsal, here, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
in the Paul Hamlin Hall, where they'll meet | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
for the first time the orchestra of the Royal Opera House. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
Hello everybody. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
For a warm-up exercise they've been asked to conduct | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
an extract from the overture to Johann Strauss's Die Fledermaus. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
-Here we go then. -And just starting this piece is a challenge in itself. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
VIOLIN STARTS TO PLAY | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
Sorry. I didn't do that properly, did I? So I will go... | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
# Du du, du-dle-du-dle-du-dle... # Is that all right? | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
OK? | 0:35:00 | 0:35:01 | |
May I start that again? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
I think Josie is still finding it difficult to communicate what | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
she wants and trust what she wants and be really clear. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
This works so well when the music's taped. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:35:19 | 0:35:20 | |
At the moment, she's not really committing to any gesture. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
She's almost like asking permission to give it rather than being | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
absolutely firm and telling them what she wants. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
All over the shop. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
It's because I'm shaking. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
I didn't think this would happen. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
Hey, well done. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:03 | |
-I thought I was a mess. -You weren't a mess. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
-And they're so stern, you know? -This is the beginning of Fledermaus. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
You are a metronome. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
-Forget, don't even listen... -You're not understanding what I'm saying. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
-What? -I was shaking so much I couldn't do the triangles. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
What you did is you heard and you started following them. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
And that threw you completely. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
That's fair enough, that's what the experience was for. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
The acoustic of the room, they play behind your beat... | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
-I get the feeling what's happening here... -They're playing late. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
I get the feeling what's happening at the Royal Opera house | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
is they're all very lovely and bloody brilliant | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
but I think they think what we're doing is a bit silly | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
-and they're a bit fed up with us. -That might be the case. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
In which case, you just need to go and enjoy it. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
I think I'm going to be the first one out | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
because I just made a stupid, girl mess of myself out there. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
You didn't. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:49 | |
See, he started right away. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
-See, he's doing ones, which is much easier. -You were doing ones. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
I wasn't! But... I was doing. No, I don't... | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
Calm, calm, calm. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
Shaking. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
Craig's problem is the extravagance of his gestures. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
It slows the orchestra down because they're reading | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
a long distance between beats | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
so they're reading that as if they need to take more time. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
And also because he's very muscular in what he's doing, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
they all tend to play louder and heavier. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
Darling, I look like I've just come out of a scuba class! | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
So much for hair and make up. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
I'm not going to look pretty on this job, am I? | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
Marcus is very clever. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
He's been able to absorb lots of strands of information | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
to do with the music. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:11 | |
It's not so straightforward putting them all together even for him. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
So that's obviously a minefield moment so let me try | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
that one a little bit better, OK? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
You see, I can't count. OK, yeah. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
I just proved to you, mathematicians are rubbish at counting. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
That was terrifying. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
It was terrifying? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
It didn't go well, I felt. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
-It was... -Let's analyse that. What didn't go well? | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
-I wasn't in control. -OK. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
I was following... I just... What I wanted to happen, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
my intention, I obviously wasn't communicating it. But, um... God! | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
Finally, it's time for the four students | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
to conduct their arias in front of an audience. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
If that's the Ferrari, you're holding a steering wheel | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
and you have your foot on the gas pedal. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
I'm going to do it fine. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
I've never felt this sort of sweaty and nervous about performing | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
for years and years and years. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
I do have to be firm with them though. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
-Good luck, I'm rooting for you. -Thank you. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
What I shall be looking for is someone who's fluent | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
in the music, who sets a good natural tempo, not a tempo | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
that's extreme, that forces the singer to take huge, long breaths. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
Oh, I feel violently ill. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
Sir Mark is joined on the platform by fellow judges, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
leading orchestral bass player, Dominic Seldis, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
and the star soprano, Danielle de Niese. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
I want a clear beat. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
I want them to be able to follow the singer | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
so that the orchestra can then follow them perfectly. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Josie Lawrence. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:09 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
I'm going to be looking for conductors | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
who have a beautiful gesture. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
Conducting is not just about beating time, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
it's about bringing a group of musicians together | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
to make a homogenous sound as well. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
# L'amour est un oiseau rebelle | 0:40:44 | 0:40:45 | |
# Que nul ne peut apprivoiser | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
# Et c'est bien in vain qu'on l'appelle | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
# S'il lui convient de refuser | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
# Rien n'y fait, menace ou priere | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
# L'un parle bien, l'autre se tait | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
# Et c'est l'autre que je prefere | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
# Il n'a rien dit mais il me plait | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
# L'amour! | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
# L'amour! | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
# L'amour! | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
# L'amour! | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
# L'amour est enfant de Boheme | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
# Il n'a jamais, jamais connu de loi | 0:41:33 | 0:41:38 | |
# Si tou ne m'aimes pas, je t'aime | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
# Si je t'aime, prends garde a toi! | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
# Si tou ne m'aimes pas si tou ne m'aimes pas, je t'aime | 0:41:48 | 0:41:55 | |
# Mais si je t'aime, si je t'aime | 0:41:56 | 0:42:01 | |
# Prends garde a toi! | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
# Si tou ne m'aimes pas si tou ne m'aimes pas, je t'aime | 0:42:25 | 0:42:33 | |
# Mais si je t'aime, si je t'aime | 0:42:34 | 0:42:41 | |
# Prends garde... a toi! # | 0:42:41 | 0:42:47 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:49 | 0:42:50 | |
-It was lovely, wasn't it? -Yeah, it was great. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
I like the buoyancy that you brought to the very beginning. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:08 | |
Bu the moments when you did get lost, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
you were beating yourself up about it. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
You closed your eyes and went, "Damn". | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
That leaves the orchestra at a bit of a loss | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
because in that moment, they need you. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
Yeah, absolutely terrific. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
I really appreciated the cueing that you gave to the French horns. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
When you give a good cue, it gives the players so much confidence. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
You got a fantastically expressive left hand and if I were playing, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
I would be able to follow everything that you were doing. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
What I think is really marvellous, Josie, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
is the way you've learnt this two in a bar. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
We knew absolutely where the downbeat and the upbeat were. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
But I felt that sometimes, you were... You were following them, | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
rather than really leading them. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
Because the beat lacked definition. Like, there it is. There it is. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
But your understanding of the spirit of music is really lovely. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:59 | |
So bravo, well done! | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
Let's put it this way - they were very kind. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
They were very kind to me. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
Because I made lots of mistakes. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
You did well. You couldn't tell! | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
And I have done it now, no matter what happens, I have done it. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
Let's all welcome Trevor Nelson. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
# O mio babbino caro | 0:44:46 | 0:44:53 | |
# Mi piace, e bello, bello | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
# Vo'andare in Porta Rossa | 0:44:58 | 0:45:05 | |
# A comperar l'anello | 0:45:05 | 0:45:13 | |
# Si, si, ci voglio andare | 0:45:13 | 0:45:20 | |
# E se l'amassi indarno | 0:45:20 | 0:45:27 | |
# Andrei sul Ponte Vecchio | 0:45:27 | 0:45:35 | |
# Ma per buttarmi in Arno | 0:45:35 | 0:45:42 | |
# Mi struggo e mi tormento | 0:45:42 | 0:45:49 | |
# O Dio, vorrei morir | 0:45:49 | 0:46:04 | |
# Babbo, pieta, pieta | 0:46:09 | 0:46:16 | |
# Babbo, pieta, pieta. # | 0:46:23 | 0:46:34 | |
Dom, what do you think? | 0:46:47 | 0:46:48 | |
I think you were conducting, | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
but not necessarily the orchestra or the singer. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
The performance that you gave was entirely yours. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
It just was not connected to what was going on around you. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
I almost had the sensation that you were so seduced by the music | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
that you slightly just went along for the ride. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
That is the problem with me. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:08 | |
-It was that moment you lost the orchestra. -I love melodies. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
And every time that bit comes up, I want to close my eyes and... | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
You know, be on a beach somewhere. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
It is really not easy. But you just flowed. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
And as Dom said, you did not always flow at the right moments. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
But at least physically you are giving yourself to the music. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
Oh, that was tough. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
My aria, which I normally really control quite well | 0:47:37 | 0:47:42 | |
I kind of lost the connection between the orchestra and the singer. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
Which I don't normally do, funnily enough. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
So I saved my worst aria | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
for the main performance, which is really disappointing. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
# Una furtiva lagrima | 0:48:34 | 0:48:40 | |
# Negli occhi suoi spunto | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
# Quelle festose giovani | 0:48:51 | 0:48:59 | |
# Invidiar sembro | 0:48:59 | 0:49:05 | |
# Che piu cercando io vo? | 0:49:07 | 0:49:13 | |
# Che piu cercando io vo? | 0:49:16 | 0:49:21 | |
# M'ama! Si, m'ama, lo vedo | 0:49:27 | 0:49:36 | |
# Lo vedo. # | 0:49:36 | 0:49:43 | |
Well, Dani, what did you think? | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
I was really impressed, Marcus. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:06 | |
The one thing that I would say, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
it is very easy to become bar orientated. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
So you have, DUM-dah-ree-ree, DUM-dah-ree-ree... | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
Sometimes with the orchestra, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:18 | |
I felt it got small, slowing down before each time. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
So it was, DUM-dah-ree-ree-dah-dah, MMM-dah-ree-ree... | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
Maybe it would help to have a bit more flow. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
Marcus, sometimes you delay a little bit. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
-"Will they do it for me?" -I know! | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
You turn to the singer, hoping he'd start at the right time, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
you slowed down a bit, as if to say, "Is he there?" | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
-My mentor told me not to do that! -Yes, that is very scary for singers, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
if you slow down, just before they are about to come in. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
It slightly makes them breathe, and then go... | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
If there was one tiny criticism, I'm seeing a lot of mirrored movements. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
So you are doing the same with your right hand as you are with your left. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
Try using your left for the emotion and volume | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
and your right to keep the beat. | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
As a general rule, that should be your default. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
I think it is because I study symmetry as a mathematician. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
-I love doing things which are... -But this is music, not maths! | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
That was wonderful. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:15 | |
That was just... They did everything I wanted them to do. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
I felt in control. It was just...it was lovely. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
I do not think axe murderer went out there. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
I think the guy who loves music went out there. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
Lastly, let's all welcome Craig Revel Horwood. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
# Votre toast, je peux vous le rendre | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
# Senors, senors car avec les soldats | 0:52:04 | 0:52:09 | |
# Oui, les Toreros, peuvent s'entendre | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
# Pour plaisirs, pour plaisirs | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
# Ils ont les combats! | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
# Le cirque est plein C'est jour de fete! | 0:52:19 | 0:52:24 | |
# Le cirque est plein du haut en bas | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
# Les spectateurs, perdent la tete | 0:52:28 | 0:52:33 | |
# Les spectateurs s'interpellent a grand fracas | 0:52:33 | 0:52:39 | |
# Apostrophes, cris et tapage | 0:52:39 | 0:52:46 | |
# Pousses jusques a la fureur | 0:52:46 | 0:52:51 | |
# Car c'est la fete du courage | 0:52:51 | 0:52:57 | |
# C'est la fete des gens de coeur | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
# Allons! En garde! Allons! Allons! Ah! | 0:53:01 | 0:53:09 | |
# Toreador, en garde! Toreador! Toreador! | 0:53:09 | 0:53:17 | |
# Et songe bien, oui, songe en combattant | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
# Qu'un oeil noir te regarde | 0:53:21 | 0:53:26 | |
# Et que l'amour t'attend | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
# Toreador L'amour, l'amour t'attend! # | 0:53:28 | 0:53:35 | |
Three words I have got to say to you, darling. Fab-u-lous! | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
Well, Dani, what do you think? | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
I, I...I'm impressed. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
Where some of the other students have shown nervousness, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:13 | |
I think you're really good at putting the show on | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
that does not show you are nervous. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
But it can in some way disconnect you | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
from what you are actually needing to do, which is listen. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
I agree, I totally agree. I knew that I was doing it. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
There was that moment when suddenly it comes to a stop. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
-Yes. -And then you suddenly thought, "We are going on, who moves first?" | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
-Yes, and then I remembered, it was me. -That's right, yes! | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
By then the music had steadied into a comfortable gait, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
and we had lost the excitement that you got so well at the beginning. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
It seemed to me that there was like a duet. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
There was you and the singer. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
And that is really not the way it should be. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
You are there to help the music come out. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
We know you can dance, we know you can move. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
But that is kind of now getting in the way a little bit. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
This whole dramatic stuff is actually quite a lot of bravado, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
and you are actually a very sensitive musician and artist, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
and I think you should let that show more. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
In the end, the art of conducting starts from the idea | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
that you cannot control anyone else until you have controlled yourself. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
But anyway, bravo, and thank you very much, Craig. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
Thank fuck that is over. Thank God that is over. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
That was just hideous. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
I was shaking all the way through like an absolute leaf. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
But it is not half fantastic, standing up there in Covent Garden, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
I mean, you know, wait until I tell my mum, in Ballarat! | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
The judges must now decide which two students | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
will definitely continue their journey. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
The face, Craig, with his arms... | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
Marcus is methodical, but he needs more... | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
Then the remaining two must face the orchestra's vote. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
and one conductor will be asked to leave. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
-It has not been easy. -It has not been easy, that is for sure. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
But we have decided that the two students who should progress through | 0:56:15 | 0:56:20 | |
to the next stage of this journey, are... | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
..Craig... | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
and Marcus. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
That's good, darling! | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
-More torture. -Yes! | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
Josie and Trevor's fate is now in the hands of the musicians. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
The first thing we noticed about Josie was how nervous she was. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
You could see how tense she was. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
And coupled with the strange looks on her face | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
this can give a bad impression to the orchestra | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
who then could start to panic as well. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
Trevor was lovely, | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
but he did not always seem very engaged with us. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
He was enjoying himself, | 0:57:11 | 0:57:12 | |
but we did not get a lot of eye contact, | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
and when the conductor does not have that sort of contact with you, | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
you feel very much that you are driving the car yourself. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
The orchestra have voted. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
And I can reveal that the conductor | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
who has been appointed to go further in this wonderful process, is... | 0:57:26 | 0:57:30 | |
Josie. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:57:32 | 0:57:37 | |
Oh, it is fine. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
-Josie, congratulations. We are all thrilled. -Thank you very much. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
-And Trevor, I am sorry. -I had a great time, a great time with everyone. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
At the start of this show, I said, | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
"Conductors are probably just posers, aren't they? | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
"The orchestra know what they are doing, don't they?" | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
Clearly not. Honestly, the sounds that you make are incredible. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
It has changed my whole view on opera, and I am a fan now, so... | 0:58:05 | 0:58:09 | |
Yeah! Good for you! | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
It has been a very positive experience | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
and everybody feels there is a certain justice in the decision... | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
I am so sorry! | 0:58:25 | 0:58:27 | |
I didn't do anything you asked me to do! | 0:58:27 | 0:58:29 | |
..and those three are the ones who should go forward. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:32 | |
I am disappointed. If you had six more months with me... | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
You would be winning! You would be Maestro! | 0:58:35 | 0:58:39 | |
But of course, conducting an aria will very soon seem halcyon days | 0:58:39 | 0:58:44 | |
in comparison with what they have got coming. | 0:58:44 | 0:58:48 | |
Next week on Maestro at the Opera: three surviving conductors | 0:58:48 | 0:58:52 | |
tackle the next challenge... | 0:58:52 | 0:58:54 | |
I thought last week was difficult enough! | 0:58:54 | 0:58:57 | |
..to conduct a fully staged operatic scene. | 0:58:58 | 0:59:01 | |
I am doing it every time, the ending, wrong. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:03 | |
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