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-Welcome to the last Ochr 1

-in the series.

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-Unfortunately, the production crew

-thought there were only 8 episodes.

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-That means we're a programme short.

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-But don't worry.

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-We've been trawling

-through the archive...

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-..and we've found a gem

-of a programme from 1974...

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-..called Cil y Drws,

-focusing on the band Saron.

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-Good evening, friends.

-Welcome to the programme.

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-This week, we're having a look at

-the young band from Dyfed, Saron.

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-Now, who are Saron?

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-They're called Siwan Morris

-and Sian Wyn.

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-It's a great pleasure

-to welcome them here tonight...

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-..to sing a few songs

-and to have a chat.

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-For now, I'm going to

-leave everything in their hands.

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-I'm sure

-you've heard this song before.

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-To sing O Saron i Saron,

-here's Saron.

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-Well done. I enjoyed that.

-Take a seat.

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-Well, ladies, welcome to Cil y Drws.

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-It's nice to have you here.

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-It's nice to have you here.

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-It's nice to be here.

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-Thanks for having us, Englyn.

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-Thanks for having us, Englyn.

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-No problem at all.

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-You've just sung

-the lovely song O Saron i Saron.

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-Tell us a little about the song.

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-Well, Englyn, we travelled up from

-Saron, Ammanford, where we live...

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-..to record our LP,

-Dail y Gaeaf, in the north.

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-As we reached our destination,

-we discovered...

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-..that the recording studio

-was in a village called Saron.

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-Well, well, what a coincidence.

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-It made us feel at home,

-to be honest.

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-I'm sure it did, fair play.

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-Now then, in case you at home

-aren't familiar with the band...

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-..let's find out

-exactly who Saron are.

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-Saron, the pop duo from Dyfed.

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-Little did they know that a year

-after filming this video...

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-..they would be one of Wales'

-most popular groups...

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-..filling halls

-with their lively performances...

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-..starring on Welsh TV and radio...

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-..and appearing at dances

-all over the country.

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-Natives of Saron near Carmarthen...

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-..Sian Wyn and Siwan Morris

-became friends at Sunday school.

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-Both came

-from very musical families...

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-..and music played a big part

-in their upbringing.

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-They started performing at local

-concerts and chapel services.

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-They became well known locally

-in next to no time.

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-But things changed

-when Elfed Saunders Jones...

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-..the gifted producer

-at Arwydd Records, heard the band.

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-He summoned the duo to the studio...

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-..where they recorded

-their first single, O Saron i Saron.

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-The single shot up the charts

-and the group enjoyed great success.

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-They performed all over Wales...

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-..and crowds thronged

-to see this exciting new pop group.

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-Who knows what's next

-for the Dyfed duo?

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-Will they be this decade's

-Triawd y Buarth?

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-Time will tell.

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-Well, well.

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-A very successful year, I'd say.

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-You've been in the studio recently,

-recording your first LP.

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-What was that experience like?

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-What was that experience like?

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-It was a brilliant experience.

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-We got a chance to develop a new

-sound with Elfed Saunders Jones.

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-Remind us

-who Elfed Saunders Jones is.

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-Elfed produced the LP for us

-in the studio.

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-He plays piano and keyboards for us

-when we play live...

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-..and he also keeps us in line.

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-..and he also keeps us in line.

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-I'm sure he tries his best!

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-It's hard to believe

-that this only started a year ago.

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-This is another interesting story.

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-This is another interesting story.

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-Yes, it is.

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-We were sitting in a Welsh lesson,

-reading Ymadawiad Arthur...

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-..by T Gwynn Jones.

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-..by T Gwynn Jones.

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-A classic.

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-In walked Miss Williams.

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-She wanted to take me

-to Mr Walsh the headmaster's office.

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-I got quite a fright.

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-I thought

-I'd done something wrong.

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-She took me there,

-and I was on the brink of tears.

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-She opened the door,

-and who was there but Sian!

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-It was you!

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-Mr Walsh said that we'd had

-a phone call from the north...

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-..asking if we as a duo...

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-..wanted to record an album

-at Stiwdio Arwydd.

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-Exciting news,

-and Siwan didn't get a row!

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-Exciting, and quite a shock

-for you at the time, I'm sure.

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-Let's hear more

-about your time at Stiwdio Arwydd.

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-Steffan ap Clwyd

-went there on our behalf.

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-Thank you very much, Englyn.

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-I'm in the village of Dolydd,

-near Caernarfon.

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-It's a fine June day,

-and as you can see...

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-..I'm standing outside

-a typical Welsh farmhouse.

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-But believe me, what goes on

-behind these grey walls...

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-..isn't what you'd expect at the

-home of Mr and Mrs Jones next door.

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-Have you been rehearsing?

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-Have you been rehearsing?

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-Yes, a bit.

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-It's going quite well.

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-Let me hear you then.

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-Well, Siwan and Sian.

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-Are you both keeping well?

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-Are you both keeping well?

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-Very well, thank you.

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-Very good. You're busy.

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-Quite busy, yes.

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-Nearing the end of a busy period.

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-Since when are you in the studio?

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-Since when are you in the studio?

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-Three weeks by now.

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-Three weeks.

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-Three weeks.

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-We feel at home now.

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-And you've just finished your exams.

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-We haven't had the results yet.

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-Oh, they're yet to come?

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-Oh, they're yet to come?

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-Fingers crossed!

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-What will you do next?

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-Find a husband, settle down

-and start a family?

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-Go to college, hopefully.

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-Go to college, hopefully.

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-To college?!

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-Fair play.

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-Fair play.

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-Have some fun before settling down.

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-You have to, I suppose.

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-What do you think of these

-two young girls alongside you?

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-Well, they're very talented,

-aren't they?

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-Yes, indeed. I agree with you.

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-I understand

-that you've written all the songs.

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-Nobody's helped you?

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-Well done, fair play.

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-Only with the final production

-in the studio.

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-That's when this man steps in.

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-Girls, I don't think

-the oohs are working.

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-Erm, they aren't strong enough.

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-Erm, they aren't strong enough.

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-But I like the oohs.

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-Well...

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-..we'll try the oohs once again...

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-..and try to...

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-..try to blast it out a bit more.

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-..try to blast it out a bit more.

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-The oohs or all of it?

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-All of it, really,

-but especially the oohs.

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-It just sounds a bit flat.

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-Not the pitch.

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-There isn't enough feeling in it.

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-The song's lovely...

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-..but you sing it as if you were

-at a funeral or something.

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-Tell me,

-what is this room we're in now?

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-This is the control room, is it?

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-This is the control room, is it?

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-Yes.

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-What do they do here? Control?

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-What do they do here? Control?

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-Yes.

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-Yes, where they...

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-..control the sound levels

-and things like that.

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-Erm, yes.

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-Do you understand

-these big machines?

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-No, we don't.

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-No, we don't.

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-No. We sing. That's what we do.

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-Let's try the oohs, then a verse...

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-..break, verse...

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-..Lliwiau, then back.

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-I'm not a fan of oohs, you know?

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-It's bad writing, you know?

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-Oohs are a sign that someone

-can't think of words, aren't they?

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-I just think the song

-is strong enough as it is.

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-The lyrics are superb.

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-You lack confidence

-in your own lyrics.

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-Why not go right into the verse?

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-At the start of the song?

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-With no intro at all?

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-Wyn, lad!

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-Come on.

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-How many songs

-will there be on the record?

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-Erm, there are...

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-Erm, there are...

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-Eleven?

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-Eleven in all.

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-Eleven in all.

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-Yes, eleven.

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-You've got enough work then.

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-You've been here for three weeks.

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-You've been here for three weeks.

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-Three weeks, yes.

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-And how long do you have left?

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-We'll see when you leave,

-so that we can get on with it.

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-Well, our day at Stiwdio Arwydd

-has come to an end.

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-I've enjoyed it.

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-I'm sure the group has too.

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-And I hope we've been able to shed

-some light for you the viewer...

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-..about how to make a record

-in this modern age.

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-Unfortunately, it's time

-for us to bid farewell...

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-..to Ifan, Wyn, Mr Elfed

-Saunders Jones, Sian and Siwan.

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-Until next time, from me,

-Steffan ap Clwyd, goodbye.

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-You had a lot of fun

-in the studio, I'd say.

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-Tell me now,

-you write all the songs.

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-Yes.

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-Yes.

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-All of them?

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-All of them.

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-I compose the music

-and Siwan writes the lyrics.

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-Well, you're clearly

-a very talented partnership.

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-I'm sure you'll agree.

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-Tell me about the new LP,

-Dail y Gaeaf.

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-What can the viewers expect?

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-It's a rock and pop record.

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-So, a bit of variety?

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-So, a bit of variety?

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-A bit of variety, yes.

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-A lot of people influence us

-musically, don't they, Sian?

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-Erm, groups like the Beatles

-and the Rolling Stones.

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-A bit of rock?

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-Yes, some rock,

-and Welsh groups too.

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-Perlau Taf.

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-Perlau Taf.

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-Oh, very nice.

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-What kind of themes

-do you write about?

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-Nature, mainly.

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-Badgers and so on?

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-The seasons, Englyn, yes.

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-The way the seasons change

-and how life goes on in winter.

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-That's the theme of Dail y Gaeaf.

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-That's the theme of Dail y Gaeaf.

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-Oh, I see.

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-There are serious themes like war...

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-..and lighter themes too,

-including some love songs.

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-War and love.

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-What could be better?

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-Who's the lucky man?!

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-We'll have to leave it there,

-I'm afraid.

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-We have a commercial break.

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-Come back after the break...

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-..for more fun, the odd story

-and maybe another song.

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-That's how it is.

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-Welcome back to Cil y Drws.

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-I'm joined by the extremely

-talented duo from Dyfed, Saron.

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-Siwan and Sian, we're going

-to change things a little...

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-..for the second part.

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-Rather than me

-asking all the questions...

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-..the questions

-will come from the viewers.

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-Esme Thomas from Llanddarog

-would like to know...

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-..if you feel nervous

-before performing.

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-Well, I know one of us does.

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-Which one?

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-Which one?

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-I get terribly nervous.

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-I do.

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-What are the symptoms?

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-I'm very scared of going on stage.

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-I worry about

-forgetting the words.

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-I'm sure you're fine.

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-Yes, I'm alright. I haven't

-had to do a concert on my own yet!

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-I'm glad to hear.

-On to the next question.

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-The next is from Olwen Parry

-from Corwen.

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-Which is your favourite song

-from the new LP?

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-It's a difficult question.

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-My favourite song is Bachgen Mawr.

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-It's a lively song that gets

-the audience on their feet.

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-It's a lot of fun.

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-A favourite for the audience too!

-Siwan, how about you?

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-I really like Lliwiau (colours).

-The lyrics are about nature.

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-With a title like that, I'm sure

-it's a very colourful song.

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-The next question is from

-Geraint Jackson in Dolgellau.

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-A very important question in life.

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-Tea or coffee? One or two sugars?

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-Tea for me, Englyn.

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-Coffee's a bit much for me

-or I'd be bouncing off the walls.

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-And I wouldn't sleep.

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-And I wouldn't sleep.

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-Any sugar?

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-No sugar.

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-No sugar.

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-You're sweet enough!

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-Siwan?

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-Siwan?

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-Tea for me too. Milk, no sugar.

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-I'm the same. Thank you both.

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-Some interesting

-and serious questions there.

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-Siwan and Sian mentioned earlier

-that you'd given a concert...

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-..to celebrate finishing

-the new LP, Dail y Gaeaf.

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-I'll pass you back now to Steffan ap

-Clwyd who was there on our behalf.

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-Well, here I am,

-outside Cilberllan village hall.

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-In a few hours, crowds from all over

-the country will come here...

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-..to claim their place

-in the audience.

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-It promises to be quite a night!

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-All tickets have been sold.

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-The group had been preparing

-for nearly half an hour.

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-I had a chat with a few members

-before the concert.

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-How are the preparations

-coming along? Siwan?

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-Very well. We've just come from the

-studio where we recorded our album.

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-All the songs

-are fresh in our minds.

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-Sian, how are things going?

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-I'm Siwan.

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-I do apologise.

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-Sian, Siwan.

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-Sian, Siwan.

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-Excuse me.

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-How are the preparations going?

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-Yes, fine, thank you.

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-We sang at the Urdd centre

-in Glan-llyn last night.

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-We're a little bit tired.

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-But we'll be fine

-after a cup of tea!

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-Tonight's tickets are sold out.

-Sian?

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-Really? I didn't know that.

-Don't, you're making me nervous.

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-Siwan?

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-Well, fantastic. How exciting.

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-When the support act had finished...

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-..it was time for the stars

-of the evening to take to the stage.

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-Well, that's it,

-the end of the concert.

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-Are you sweating

-and out of breath?

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-How did it go?

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-Siwan?

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-Siwan?

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-It was a fantastic gig.

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-The audience were fantastic.

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-A brilliant response.

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-Sian?

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-Yes, a brilliant response.

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-Erm... everyone was singing

-and dancing.

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-It really was amazing.

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-The audience responded to the fast,

-lively songs...

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-..and they also responded

-to the serious ones.

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-They followed the mood of the song.

-So, yes, a successful evening.

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-Well, that's it. The end of another

-successful evening in Cilberllan.

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-From me, Steffan ap Clwyd, goodbye.

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-Well, that looked like

-a very successful evening.

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-A lot of fun and everyone

-seemed to enjoy themselves.

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-Tell me, Siwan and Sian,

-will you be performing again soon?

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-Yes, we have a few dates arranged

-for the summer.

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-We're singing in Aberystwyth.

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-We're singing in Aberystwyth.

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-By the sea in Aberystwyth.

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-Yes, that's right.

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-We have a concert in Crymych. We're

-also singing at the Eisteddfod.

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-Quite a bit of variety!

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-It's going to be a busy summer.

-We're very excited.

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-I'm sure. I feel excited for you.

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-If viewers at home

-would like to buy a copy...

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-..of this talented band's first LP,

-where can they buy Dail y Gaeaf?

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-In your local shops.

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-In your local shops.

-

-Make sure you buy a copy.

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-Well, the time has come

-to say goodbye.

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-I'd like to take this opportunity...

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-..to thank Siwan and Sian

-and the members of the band.

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-But more than anything,

-I'd like to thank you at home.

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-Don't forget to watch next week.

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-Cil y Drws will be focusing

-on another special guest.

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-In the meantime, please give Saron

-a round of applause.

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