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to do the whole 147 thing there. We have not got time at! You did it in

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just over five minutes 20 years ago. It is crazy. I have made better

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ones. My This could lead to, essentially, too

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big to innovate. Rory Cellan-Jones, BBC News.

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The Pentagon has intelligence that Syria is planning another

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possible chemical attack - the White House says

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Russia is quick to denounce the American threat,

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President Assad doesn't seem concerned - he spent the morning

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examining a Russian airfield in Syria, taking a climb

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The US health care bill is on life support as key Republican senators

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Google is slapped with a record breaking fine.

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The European Commission says it is breaking competition rules.

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Early days, but it would seem a new cyber attack is under way.

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The target was Ukraine, but the problem is now spreading

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Airports, banks and power systems are being affected.

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And the Chinese artist Ai Weiwei sits down with the BBC to talk

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about his latest work in Washington - a sprawling tribute to those

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I am Katty Kay in Washington - Christian Fraser is in London.

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The Pentagon says the intelligence is compelling -

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it has identified planes and also the hangar in which it says

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the Syrian government may be preparing another chemical attack.

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The White House said to President Assad he will pay "a heavy price"

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In April, a sarin gas attack on the rebel held town

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of Khan Sheikhun killed at least 87 people, many of them were children.

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The attack was launched from this same base.

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Today the Syrian President Bashar al-Assad denied any

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And perhaps in defiance of that US threat, he paid a visit to a Russian

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airbase in the west of the country - even climbing into the cockpit

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Not the image of a man cowed by American threats.

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A short while ago the US ambassador to the UN,

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Nikki Haley issued this statement about what the White

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They have seen activities that are similar to preparations

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of a chemical weapons attack, much like we saw in April.

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I believe the goal is at this point, not just to send Assad a message

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but to send Russia and Iran a message that if this happens

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again, we are putting you on notice, and my hope is that the president's

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warning will certainly get Russia and Iran to take a second look,

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and I hope it will caution Assad we don't want to see innocent men,

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Mr Trump has had a conversation today with the French president,

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Emmanuel Macron, who apparently agreed to join the US in taking

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action against Syria in the event of chemical attack.

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Joining us in the studio is General Mark Kimmitt who served

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as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for George W Bush.

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General Kimmitt, what is the White House strategy here? Why have they

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issued this warning to the Syrians? I think they have made it clear they

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will not accept another attack like there was on April four. This is a

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clear declaration from the United States that they are prepared to

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respond the way they did before. After the attack in April and the 59

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Tomahawks said, the criticism of the White House is that there was not a

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follow-up strategy. Do you think there has been a more conference of

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strategy designed beyond just taking action against one air force base?

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Frankly I don't think there has been an overall strategy for Syria...

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From either the United States or its coalition partners such as the

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United Kingdom. That has to be part of any solution. The solution cannot

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simply be military. It has to be diplomatic and I'm glad to see that

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the French have started pushing very hard to try to put this back on the

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table. General Kimmitt, President Trump obviously wants to look like

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he is the strong man on the world stage, and I suppose that upshot of

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this is you can head it off, but the flip side is that if they use these

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weapons you have to follow it through? We have already

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demonstrated we will follow through and I think the most encouraging

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news today is that President Assad denied he was preparing for a

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chemical attack and that demonstrates to me that President

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Trump's words have had deterrent effect, not only for Bashar

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al-Assad, but also his supporters in Iraq and Iran. The problem is,

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though, of course, if there was a second attack, the Russians might

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not be as tolerant as they were lasting? That is a choice the

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Russians have to make. Clearly they are the puppet Masters behind Bashar

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al-Assad, as are the Iranians. The only reason Bashar al-Assad is in

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power today is due to his support from those two countries, so they

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have to make a decision, to keep corrupt murderer in power, or move

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towards a diplomatic solution. The military situation has been getting

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more tense. We have seen Russian and American jets flying very close to

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each other, the Americans have downed a Syrian planes. The Russians

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did not like that. What other risks at the moment of some kind of

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miscalculation in Syria? That is my greatest worry as well because the

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Russians have turned off that channel. We had a strong

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communications channel between ourselves, the coalition nations,

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and the Russians, to make sure there was not any kind of accidental

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shutdown, accidental problem, inside the ear, but that can only be done

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if they deconstruction channel remains open, so it is up to the

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Russians in my mind to open -- to reopen the channel so that we do not

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have the skin of things you're suggesting. Thank you for coming in

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to join us. The interesting thing, Katty, we are focusing a lot on

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Mosul and the fire that is now underway in Raqqa, but we don't talk

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in the media a lot about the endgame, what may, after Raqqa. Is

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there any discussion of that? Yes, I think the general was right. There

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is not a political strategy here in the United States and nor is there

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with the coalition, post-punk-mac, if there is to be opposed Assad. We

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seem to be in -- post Assad if there is to be opposed Assad. I spoke to a

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politician today and said there is no appetite for the United States to

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get more involved militarily in Syria, either from Democrats or

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Republicans. The president, whilst issuing this threat on the chemical

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weapons level, is very aware that lack of engagement. Talking of that

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lack of support, Republican senators are running away from their own

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plans to change American health care. It looks like they are

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cancelling a vote on the bill this week and all Republican senators

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have now been invited to the White House.

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The it is not popular, not with the voters, the health care industry, or

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even with the president, who said it is means, so the chances of

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fulfilling that key campaign promise to immediately replace Obamacare

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appears to be slipping away. We are joined by our North American

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reporter Anthony Zurcher. Things are moving very fast. We expected a vote

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on health care in the next couple of days and that is now changing.

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Exactly, and that is the bottom line. The votes were not there for

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the Republicans to pass this. Remember, they needed 50 of the

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senators to get this over the finish line. We had heard from Republican

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centre senators, moderates and conservatives with misgivings about

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the bill, some of them, such as Susan Collins of Maine, who was

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pretty definitive in her opposition, and it looks more like they will not

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be able to pull it together so it has been delayed, consideration of,

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until after this 4th of July recess, which begins on Friday. Senators

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have gone back to their home districts for a week and they come

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back to DC for three weeks in July then after that they are gone for

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all of August. During that July period they will have to talk about

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raising the debt ceiling, passing a budget, they have a very crowded

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legislative calendar, and this is just one more thing put on their

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plate. Anthony Zurcher, thank you very much for joining us. It will be

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odd, Christian, watching the sight of 52 Republican senators going down

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to the White House when they don't actually have something to vote

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about. Just before we heard about this vote being delayed, I discuss

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the health care battle with Republican Congresswoman from

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Tennessee, a big supporter of Donald Trump's, and I asked her what she

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would tell her constituents who now face the prospect of losing their

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health care insurance under this Republican plan. The people of

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Tennessee have already been hurt. You have to go back in and look at

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what the placement of the Affordable Care Act in the marketplace did, and

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people in Tennessee have seen their premiums go up by 176%, across the

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board, since the Affordable Care Act went on the books. Congresswoman,

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you were a big supporter of President Trump's and he called this

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bill mean. I assume you would see that and the president is wrong? I

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think on this the president and I would have a disagreement. When you

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see the increase in Medicaid spending at 20% over the next ten

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years, I think that is generous dart-mac any time you see... --

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generous dart-mac any time you see... The president will say what

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he is going to say but I know that our goal has been to make health

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care more affordable and more accessible. You seen Medicaid

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spending rise 20%. Katty, I have to tell you, for some of the Democrats,

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they wanted to visit 100%, but they want a single-payer system and the

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American people do not want a system. They want patient centred

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health care where they, the individual, can make those decisions

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with their physicians. Congresswoman, the public and have

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had seven years to come up with a plan to repeal the bill. They have

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been speaking about it for that long. Why is it that difficult for

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you? Why did you not have the plan ready to go? We had any part of that

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plan ready to go. Indeed, we had over 100 bills that were available.

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We had amended the Affordable Care Act 54 times, and you get to a point

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where they health care marketplace is imploding, so you do have to, in

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order to work within the budget, within the constraints, you have to

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go in and tweak the provisions you have to. They are the same

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provisions we have been talking about since we were at the

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President's health care summit back in 2010, so you have to adjust it so

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that if it is within the budget framework and, yes, it takes a long

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time. Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn, thank you for joining us.

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Good to be with you. Thank you. That is the point that she made there,

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isn't it, Katty, that if they can't get this through after seven years,

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seeing this would be the first thing they would do, this is what we want

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above all else, there are good to be huge political repercussions? Yes,

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and remember during the campaign this was the thing that would happen

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on the first day, replacing and repealing Obamacare. President Trump

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during the campaign sold himself as the master of the art of the deal,

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he was the guy who would fix this, and I think you said at one point

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during the campaign it would be relatively simple for him to fix

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this because he would be able to get Republicans to do the deal in a way

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nobody else had got them to do it. I think we would call this the

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learning curve, that the president is realising health care is very

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complicated, that individual members have very conjugated political

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calculations, and frankly if he calls the bill mean, it probably

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doesn't win himself very many supporters because all of those

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senators no wavering on signing, they will think, who will have my

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back? Will the president have my back if I see numbers, or will he

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just call it mean again? Which doesn't help me. Health care. And

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2018 is just around the corner. Yes, it is complicated.

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The nuclear disaster site at Chernobyl in Ukraine

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is undergoing manual radiation checks after a wave of cyber

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attacks in the country hit its operating systems.

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The country appears to be the victim of a widespread hack that's spread

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Government ministries, power companies, banks and airports

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all reporting major problems with their computer systems.

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And as we know by now - so interconnected is the world -

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that very often it quickly spreads elsewhere.

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We are now getting reports that major companies in the US,

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Netherlands, France, Norway and the UK are reporting

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I'm joined now by our security correspondent, Gordon Corera.

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I saw you in the corridor earlier furtively watching Twitter to see

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where it was going. What do we know? LAUGHTER

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Every minute you are seeing new reports about it. This one

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particularly seems to be spreading fast. It started in the Ukraine and

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at first looked like something pretty serious but pretty localised

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in Ukraine, where energy, banks, systems to do with the metro and the

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airport, had been hit, but it looked like something within Ukraine

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largely, but then quite largely we started to get reports further

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afield, the big Russian oil producing firm got hit, then we

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heard the port of Rotterdam was hit, and WPP, a large global advertising

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firm based in the UK, was hit, US pharmaceutical firm, big companies

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getting hit, and it was moving pretty fast. It is not yet clear,

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you know, quite how far and how global it will go, but certainly the

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speed is worrying people. It is surprising then, because when you

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talk about big companies, they usually a pretty good software

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systems that are being updated. What is the tricky thing about this? Is

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that this ransom were again where they demand payment? Exactly. So for

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people affected, their computer screen gets locked and they get a

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message saying we will not unlock and decrypt your data unless you pay

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a ransom. In this case, $300 in bitcoins into an account, bitcoins

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being the anonymous way of paying, supposedly. This is similar but not

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the same as the run somewhere attack about a month ago. This is similar

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but it actually looks in some ways faster and more upgraded. It is not

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yet clear, though, how much damage it will do, but I think we haven't

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got a handle yet on how many companies and countries will be

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affected, and how much damage it will do to them. Whether they will

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be able to recover quickly. It is possible this could be more serious,

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but it is still early days. But, Gordon, is there a risk that because

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some of these cyber attacks do seem to be contained, like you said not a

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huge amount of damage apparently from this one or the run somewhere

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attack last time either, is there a risk people start getting complacent

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-- or from the run somewhere attack last time either. It depends really

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on your organisation and how dependent you are on your computer

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systems. Do you have the back-ups to be able to deal with this. We saw in

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the UK in May when an number of NHS, National Health Service, trusts were

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hit, and were having to cancel patient operations. That is a kind

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of real-world consequences for a cyber attack, where they couldn't

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get the patient records in time for an operation and they could not

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schedule and properly, so you can see that when you start getting

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real-world consequences, not just that you can't use your computer

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system for an hour or your website is down, that is the kind of thing

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which really affect companies and institutions, so I think it will

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depend on how serious this is and how many are hit, but I think is

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another company is hit it has an impact, see, you know, CEOs and

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others saying, why did we get hit and others did not get hit?

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Sometimes it is because they have not invested enough in IT security

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so those questions start to cascade through and around organisations,

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why some are getting hit and not others. Interesting. Gordon, for the

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moment, thank you. Christian, we are in the wrong business. We need to be

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in the cyber security business! Yes, mass of money. Massive growth

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industry. If you type "Google and competition

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law" into your browser this evening, you will see the American tech

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company has been hit with a record 2.4 billion euro fine

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by the European Union. There's also a good chance,

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you will be viewing that story through Google search,

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perhaps on a Google browser, maybe even on a phone or computer

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that is running Google's It photographs our streets,

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it's building our future cars, it has extraordinary access

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to our personal information And the European Commission believes

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the company is rigging online shopping searches

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by promoting its own shopping It's the giant which dominates

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online search, and now it's been hit with a record fine,

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over ?2 billion, after rivals claimed that Google had

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trampled on their business. The fine was imposed by Europe's

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competition commissioner, gaining a reputation for taking

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an powerful American Google has abused its market

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dominance as a search engine by giving illegal advantages

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to other Google products, The charges that it uses search

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engine might to favour its own Right at the top appears the Google

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box with a series of adverts. If I click on these,

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Google earns money. What you are not seeing

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prominently - in fact, way down, out of sight -

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are rival price comparison sites. They are not getting the clicks

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and not earning the money. One of those rivals

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says that today's fine One of those rivals, Kelkoo,

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says that today's fine Without competition,

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Google can charge merchants With competition, you end up

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with lots of people like ourselves, companies, competing on prices

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which brings the price down. But Google says big rivals

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like Amazon provide plenty of competition when it comes

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to choosing products, and Brussels doesn't understand

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the modern consumer. Get your products on Google, other

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sites, and with mobile shoppers... And there is wider concern

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in the United States at what some see as interference

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in a ground-breaking company. A former adviser to three presidents

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says consumers won't benefit. This could lead to, essentially,

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too big to innovate. If you are so big, you be

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careful about innovating, because you could bring down

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the raft of the European Commission on you and pay large amounts

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of money to the European treasury. For more than a decade

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the European Commission has been taking on the American technology

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giants and today it makes clear that its battle against what it sees

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as unfair competition will continue. We're joined here in the studio

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by Ana-Rita Rego who is the London managing editor of market

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insight publication MLEX. Welcome to the studio. Thanks for

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coming. This is a company that can move it servers, regional officers,

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wherever it wants, so perhaps the most pressing argument here is that

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there are few governments in the world, and perhaps the EU is only

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sort of body, who could do it? So good we in this case. The UK is very

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well positioned because Google has operations in several of those

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countries and they have oversight and competition matters. People are

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saying, good people just move away from the EU? It can't because it has

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services here and wants to sell its services in Europe and for that

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reason has to comply with the European competition laws. Ana-Rita,

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it is Katty in Washington. I have to say sitting on this side of the

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Atlantic it looks increasingly like European jealousy on American

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innovation. The Europeans have not managed to come up with big search

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engines themselves and they're taking about an European companies?

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There are several US companies behind these complaint and that have

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welcomed the European Commission's decision, so it is not... It's just

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an opinion, like any other. At the same time the European Commission

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has fined European companies billions of euros as well. Recently

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there was a decision in the trucking industry, so many would contest that

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bias against US firms. Something we were seeing this morning in our

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meeting here, actually when you go surfing on Google for a product, you

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do also, if you are a smart online shopper, you look at Amazon, or you

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might look at eBay, so you don't confine yourself to Google, do you?

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That is part of Google's argument, look at Amazon, eBay, they are doing

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very well on this shopping sector of the market. They are my competitors

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as well. So Google is trying to dissolve its position in that market

:21:48.:21:52.

and join to the commission that its conduct is not hampering any rivals.

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And perhaps more from the others, because there may be a president set

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location? That remains to be seen. Companies are a bit tetchy about

:22:03.:22:05.

involving themselves in theirs' fears, but we will see. OK, Ana-Rita

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, thank you much. Katty, the one thing we know about Donald Trump...

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He does follow the poll numbers, and I know that because I follow his

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Twitter feed. I am not too sure he is going

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to like the latest results They have surveyed

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people in 37 countries - Donald Trump travels like an

:22:30.:22:35.

American president and has the powers of an American president.

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What he does not seem to have is the world's respect. According to the

:22:40.:22:45.

nonpartisan Pew Research Centre, only 22% of people surveyed in 37

:22:46.:22:48.

countries have confidence in Mr Trump will do the right thing for

:22:49.:22:52.

the world. 64% felt the same about President Obama when he left office.

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It's not even close. Compare to develop world leaders Mr Trump comes

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last in terms of global confidence. He falls behind Germany's Angela

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Merkel, the Chinese president, and even Vladimir Putin, a full 5%

:23:16.:23:17.

behind the Russian leader. Part of this is personal, and parties

:23:18.:23:19.

policy. Let's start with the politics. Of three of his major

:23:20.:23:22.

initiatives, more than 70% of those surveyed disapproved. Those include

:23:23.:23:23.

withdrawing from international climate initiatives, and trade

:23:24.:23:26.

deals, and building that famous wall. Then there is the personal.

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Three quarters of those surveyed found him arrogant. More than 60%

:23:32.:23:35.

think he is intolerant, even dangerous. On the upside, more than

:23:36.:23:41.

half described Mr Trump is a strong leader, and quite a few found him

:23:42.:23:45.

charismatic. But then there is the broader question. Do his American

:23:46.:23:50.

supporters care about any of this? Perhaps it is exactly what America

:23:51.:23:53.

First is all about, not minding what the world thinks of you. For them,

:23:54.:24:00.

this could be a validation that President Trump is getting it

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exactly right. STUDIO: It is interesting he is

:24:05.:24:07.

behind President Putin. I would have thought he would have done better

:24:08.:24:10.

than him. There we are. Your last point is true. It is not about

:24:11.:24:15.

making Frans great again, is it? It is about making America great, so

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probably his base does not care in the slightest -- it is not about

:24:21.:24:24.

making France great again. Yes, I remember doing the 2004 campaign,

:24:25.:24:30.

when he was running for real action, and there was that big spike in

:24:31.:24:34.

feeling because of Iraq, and I remember people in Europe saying,

:24:35.:24:38.

surely this will cost President Bush the re-election, because of the

:24:39.:24:41.

world does not like America it will affect American voters, but quite

:24:42.:24:46.

the contrary. President Bush's supporters felt that if the world

:24:47.:24:50.

and not like him he must not be doing something wrong. So don't

:24:51.:24:53.

underestimate that, if the capacity does not have the liking of other

:24:54.:24:58.

countries, it is not any bad thing. The tricky thing is, though, I

:24:59.:25:02.

suppose, looking from the outside in, there is so much inconsistency,

:25:03.:25:05.

and I suppose he and his allies don't know whether he is coming or

:25:06.:25:14.

going, Nato, in or out, that kind of inconsistency irritates outside

:25:15.:25:18.

world. We have spoken about this before. Particularly European allies

:25:19.:25:21.

who don't know which member of the administration really speaks for the

:25:22.:25:24.

administration, whether President Trump says one thing about Nato,

:25:25.:25:27.

then we'll see something else the next day, and that makes it very

:25:28.:25:30.

hard for countries to make positives of the factors they have to deal

:25:31.:25:35.

with America, the biggest country, military, mark in the world, they

:25:36.:25:38.

have to deal with President Trump, and so do we. Which is why we're

:25:39.:25:45.

here. You're watching 100 Days Plus. Still to come... Nicola Sturgeon's

:25:46.:25:50.

SNP lost 21 seats in the general election, and we look at what that

:25:51.:25:53.

means for an independence referendum and Brexit. Plus... The Royal

:25:54.:25:57.

household has been given a raise. We look at where the Queen's money is

:25:58.:26:00.

being spent. All still to come on 100 Days Plus.

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Good evening. The weather is a fickle business. We have gone from

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summer scorcher to a cloudy drizzly day over. Some heavy sharp showers

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developing in the south-east corner, some with rumbles of thunder. It is

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this cloud and outbreaks of rain drifting northwards overnight.

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Keeping a few showers into Scotland, but it is a pretty wet picture

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across England and Wales. That is how we stuck our day on Wednesday,

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the best of the weather on Wednesday will perhaps be up in the far north

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through much of Scotland, where it will stay dry. Not particularly

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warm. And breaks of rain into Northern Ireland, the Scottish

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Borders, down into England and Wales and the south-west. Slow improvement

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into the south-east corner. Highest values here 20 degrees, but all

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changed yet again on Thursday as that area of low pressure drifts

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further north bringing some heavy rain into Scotland and gale force

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gusts of wind further south, somewhat quieter for at least a day.

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Take care. Welcome back to One

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Hundred Days Plus. The White House puts

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Syria's President Assad on warning: it says he'll pay a heavy price

:30:16.:30:20.

if he launches another This was a clear declaration from

:30:21.:30:34.

the US that they are prepared to respond to the Syrian regime the way

:30:35.:30:35.

they responded before. Computer systems around

:30:36.:30:37.

the world have been hit It's thought to have exploited

:30:38.:30:39.

the same weaknesses used by last Per capita - Qatar is the richest

:30:40.:30:43.

country in the world. But for three weeks it has

:30:44.:30:56.

been treated as a pariah by its closest neighbours

:30:57.:30:58.

and it is feeling the effects. Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Bahrain

:30:59.:31:01.

have all cut off air, land and sea links with Qatar,

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accusing the small gas rich state of supporting regional terrorism

:31:04.:31:06.

and opening up to their arch-rival - The Qatari government received

:31:07.:31:10.

a list of conditions from Saudi Arabia last week,

:31:11.:31:14.

and included in the list was a demand they close down

:31:15.:31:16.

the TV network Al Jazeera. The US Secretary of State Rex

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Tillerson has called for a diplomatic solution,

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today he has been holding meetings Our State Department correspondent

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Barbara Plett Usher joins now. We are getting mixed signals from

:31:25.:31:41.

the American administration but President Trump has tweeted that

:31:42.:31:44.

Qatar have been financers of terrorism and then Rex Tillerson

:31:45.:31:48.

saying the other Gulf countries need to make reasonable demands. Where

:31:49.:31:54.

does Qatar stand with regard to America? A good question because you

:31:55.:31:57.

get different signals from the White House and State Department. The

:31:58.:32:02.

White House has seemed to be siding with the Saudis on this and the

:32:03.:32:05.

State Department trying to be more neutral and de-escalate the

:32:06.:32:11.

situation. So it is Rex Tillerson meeting with foreign ministers and

:32:12.:32:15.

discussing quite closely with various parties and trying to get

:32:16.:32:18.

them to come to some kind of solution. He has actually taken some

:32:19.:32:24.

sharp stands on Qatar, on their side. He said that the Gulf states

:32:25.:32:30.

admitted be reasonable and then he said it would be difficult for Qatar

:32:31.:32:35.

but find something that you can talk about. And today in the meeting with

:32:36.:32:40.

the Foreign Minister from Cava, he is going to try to press the US to

:32:41.:32:45.

take a more active role in backing them in their dispute. The Minister

:32:46.:32:48.

latched onto those words that Rex Tillerson used and said the demands

:32:49.:32:52.

were not in fact reasonable. America has quite a stake in this because

:32:53.:32:55.

they're trying to forge a closer relationship with Saudi Arabia but

:32:56.:32:59.

also have a big military base in Doha. So how do the act in the

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middle of this as an honest broker? What is interesting is the way the

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Americans are behind the scenes on this. As you said they have a lot at

:33:09.:33:13.

stake, they key allies in fighting the war on terrorism as each others

:33:14.:33:18.

throats, and they have this big base in Caparo which has been isolated by

:33:19.:33:22.

the others. And then last week you have the White House spokesman

:33:23.:33:26.

saying we think it is a family issue that they can sort out by

:33:27.:33:30.

themselves. Without the Americans trying to fix it. You have Rex

:33:31.:33:34.

Tillerson in the background trying to fix it with that meeting today

:33:35.:33:39.

with the Foreign Minister of Qatar. We know that the Saudi Foreign

:33:40.:33:43.

Minister is in town. My sense is he's going to see how things go

:33:44.:33:46.

through the week, what develops, whether these groups can find some

:33:47.:33:51.

manoeuvrability to find a solution and if by Friday, the deadline, they

:33:52.:33:55.

have not, we will see them if he takes a more public and active role.

:33:56.:33:58.

Thank you for the moment. Perhaps the only crumb of comfort

:33:59.:34:00.

the British Prime Minister takes from the recent election,

:34:01.:34:02.

is that north of the border it has put the First Minister,

:34:03.:34:05.

Nichola Sturgeon, on the back foot. In Scotland the campaign was fought

:34:06.:34:08.

largely on independence. Ms Sturgeon was pushing for another

:34:09.:34:10.

referendum by the spring of 2019 before the Brexit negotiation

:34:11.:34:13.

has been completed. Trouble is, she lost 21 of the SNP's

:34:14.:34:14.

56 seats at Westminster. So today - taking into

:34:15.:34:17.

account public opinion - Ms Sturgeon informed the Scottish

:34:18.:34:19.

parliament she is re-setting her timetable -

:34:20.:34:21.

she is delaying the legislation We will not seek to introduce the

:34:22.:34:41.

legislation for an independence referendum immediately. Instead we

:34:42.:34:47.

will in good faith redouble our efforts and put our shoulder to the

:34:48.:34:51.

wheel in seeking to influence the Brexit talks in a way that protects

:34:52.:34:53.

the interests of Scotland. Ian Blackford is the SNP

:34:54.:34:54.

leader in the House I spoke to him earlier and asked him

:34:55.:34:56.

why Nicola Sturgeon had We recognise there is an opportunity

:34:57.:35:08.

now to protect the interests of the people of Scotland and all the

:35:09.:35:12.

people of the rest of the UK, arguing that we must retain access

:35:13.:35:16.

to the single market and the customs union. That is going to be an

:35:17.:35:21.

important short-term priority. A desire for the Scottish referendum

:35:22.:35:26.

on independence was based on the probability that Scotland was going

:35:27.:35:29.

to be dragged out of Europe and the single market against its will. What

:35:30.:35:33.

we now have said is we will seek to protect the interests of the people

:35:34.:35:37.

of Scotland, we have retained the commitment we have two referendum on

:35:38.:35:41.

Scottish independence at the end of the Brexit process. If we're not in

:35:42.:35:48.

a position... When would that be, 2021? We're saying the Brexit

:35:49.:35:53.

process should be known by 2019. I think is important but the people of

:35:54.:35:59.

Scotland will be asked to vote on the deal on the table at that time.

:36:00.:36:03.

It is important that we retain the opportunity to give the people

:36:04.:36:07.

Scotland their said that point. So when would that be, two years after

:36:08.:36:11.

Brexit question of what we've said is we will put on hold the process

:36:12.:36:15.

of a bill to the Scottish Parliament that would enable that for now. But

:36:16.:36:20.

when the Brexit deal with them we can look at the timetable Ben for a

:36:21.:36:24.

referendum on Scottish independence if required. The important thing is

:36:25.:36:28.

we have a mandate from the people Scotland last year from the Scottish

:36:29.:36:32.

election result and so what we need to make sure is that people Scotland

:36:33.:36:35.

recognise they have that insurance policy that if we need to do that,

:36:36.:36:40.

then we can quickly bring forward proposals for a referendum on

:36:41.:36:44.

independence. You said it is an exciting time to be in Westminster

:36:45.:36:47.

because you could forge the debate but when you look at what you want

:36:48.:36:51.

from Brexit, and where Labour and the Conservatives stand at the

:36:52.:36:55.

moment, there are not many people on your platform. Obviously we do not

:36:56.:37:01.

know what labour stand for the moment but do you see any way to

:37:02.:37:05.

join hands with them? It is a fluid situation and yes I extended the

:37:06.:37:08.

hand of friendship across the house. One of things that is important is

:37:09.:37:13.

not just the parliamentarians having their say but also the

:37:14.:37:18.

administration in Edinburgh and Cardiff and I hope there will be one

:37:19.:37:21.

soon in Belfast as well. The government must listen to the voices

:37:22.:37:26.

around the UK and there is a clear voice from those administrations

:37:27.:37:30.

that they do not want a hard Brexit. So I think there is unity of purpose

:37:31.:37:33.

that we can develop around the administration in the devolved

:37:34.:37:37.

governments but also I have spoken to a number of MPs across the

:37:38.:37:44.

chamber, Plaid Cymru, labour, Conservatives, wishing to remain

:37:45.:37:46.

within the single market. I think there is a broad church can be put

:37:47.:37:50.

together recognising that we must not come off that cliff edge. I

:37:51.:37:54.

think is important that we retain access to the single market the

:37:55.:37:58.

Prime Minister spoke about wanting to retain free trade but I would say

:37:59.:38:02.

we can do that by maintaining access to the single market.

:38:03.:38:05.

The Chinese artist Ai Weiwei is an outspoken

:38:06.:38:07.

champion of human rights - views that led to his own

:38:08.:38:10.

This week he's here in Washington promoting one of his most

:38:11.:38:15.

significant works - 176 lego brick portraits of people

:38:16.:38:17.

The installation is on display at the Hirshhorn Gallery

:38:18.:38:20.

where Jane O'Brien caught up with him.

:38:21.:38:27.

Ai Weiwei came up with the idea for Trace, a sprawling portrait

:38:28.:38:30.

project, when he was incarcerated by the Chinese authorities in 2011.

:38:31.:38:36.

He uses Lego bricks to create pixelated images of 176 people

:38:37.:38:38.

he considers to be prisoners of conscience or free activists.

:38:39.:38:46.

They have strong beliefs, they are very brave.

:38:47.:38:53.

In most circumstances they know they could lose their life.

:38:54.:38:55.

Most of the people you portray here have been in prison

:38:56.:39:00.

But some of your portraits are of people who have been

:39:01.:39:04.

How do you think visitors will react to that?

:39:05.:39:10.

For many visitors it would be a surprise.

:39:11.:39:13.

Very often we think we're living in free world, or a free society.

:39:14.:39:16.

So I include Chelsea Manning, who is so brave, for me.

:39:17.:39:31.

Like most of Ai Weiwei's works, Trace was constructed by others

:39:32.:39:33.

It was first shown on the site of the notorious prison of Alcatraz

:39:34.:39:39.

and it is transferring to Washington at the time of heightened

:39:40.:39:42.

debate about the meaning of truth in politics,

:39:43.:39:44.

fake news, and the power of social media.

:39:45.:39:46.

A medium that Ai Weiwei has mastered.

:39:47.:39:49.

What impact do you think President Donald Trump has

:39:50.:39:51.

I often heard a lot of criticism, but I also think there

:39:52.:39:58.

is a lot we want to know, how this guy really thinks.

:39:59.:40:00.

Or even the mistakes this guy can make.

:40:01.:40:08.

But the discussion is always on the surface, it is not really

:40:09.:40:11.

One portrait in particular stands out.

:40:12.:40:20.

The jailed Chinese dissident and Nobel peace laureate

:40:21.:40:26.

who as the exhibition opened, was moved from prison to hospital

:40:27.:40:29.

Ai Weiwei says he is symbolic of many others who suffer

:40:30.:40:34.

They can easily make you disappear, your lawyer cannot really defend

:40:35.:40:38.

you or your family even cannot know how you are.

:40:39.:40:43.

In some cases even after you have served your time,

:40:44.:40:45.

Audiences may not sympathise with the motives of every in Trace,

:40:46.:40:57.

the broader aim of Ai Weiwei's work is to raise questions

:40:58.:41:00.

about the nature of freedom and how it is protected

:41:01.:41:03.

Before we came on air catti told me she was speaking to Nancy Pelosi and

:41:04.:41:27.

tonight you're having dinner with Ai Weiwei. The circles you mix in!

:41:28.:41:30.

The Queen is in line for a pay rise over the next two years -

:41:31.:41:34.

one which will take her income to more than 82 million pounds,

:41:35.:41:37.

to fund her official duties - such as travel, salaries for her

:41:38.:41:47.

The money she receives from the tax purse has

:41:48.:41:53.

increased over the six years by 51 million pounds.

:41:54.:41:55.

Last year it worked out at roughly at 65

:41:56.:41:58.

pence per taxpayer per year - a figure royal aides says

:41:59.:42:00.

Imagine people would not begrudge her that because she is still very

:42:01.:42:09.

popular. Around 80% of Britons approve of the Royal Family but it

:42:10.:42:12.

is a difficult time for this to come out. Always controversial when you

:42:13.:42:17.

talk about what we call the sovereign grand, the money used to

:42:18.:42:20.

uphold the Royal Family. In particular this time when there not

:42:21.:42:24.

a of money extra money being spent on public services and of course

:42:25.:42:29.

after the Grenfell Tower tragedy. Some people obviously pick up on

:42:30.:42:35.

some of the things like for instance ?17,000 that Prince Charles had

:42:36.:42:38.

spent on flights between his two hands on a private jet. Those kind

:42:39.:42:47.

of thing standing out. Doors on the Orangery. But also what they bring

:42:48.:42:52.

into the country, around ?500 million that comes to the UK as a

:42:53.:42:57.

result of the Royal Family and about one in six foreign visitors owing to

:42:58.:43:02.

a Paracel Castle. So they bring money in as well. Defence will you

:43:03.:43:06.

stand on the issue. --

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