Conference 2016: UKIP Wales

As the battle ahead of May's Assembly elections hots up, Ukip say

thay Assembly elections hots up, Ukip say

they could be on the verge of geptang

they could be on the verge of getting their first seats in Cardiff

Bay. Welcome to Conference 2016. Good afternoon. Welcome to

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and the Conservatives still to come. and dhe Cnncervatives still to come.

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Vaughan, we are in new territory as Vaqghan, ve are hn new territory as

far as Welsh politics are concerned, we have a party who, according to

opinion polls, could have we have a party who, according to

opinaon pnlls, could have as m`ny we have a party who, according to

opinion polls, could have as many as ten

opinion polls, could have as many as tel members in

opinion polls, could have as many as ten members in Cardiff Bay after

opinion polls, could have as many as May. But it's a party that doesn't

May. But ht's a party that doesn't have a

May. But ht's a party that doesn't hate a tracc

May. But ht's a party that doesn't have a track record in the Assembly,

May. But ht's a party that doesn't so how do we square that circle? The

so how do we squ`re that circle? The opinion polls suggest that Ukip are

so how do we squ`re that circle? The going to win at least five seats in

tha going to win at least five seats in

the Assembly election. We the Assem`lq electaon. Ve had nur

fingers burned by opinion the Assem`lq electaon. Ve had nur

filgers btrned by opinion polls last the Assem`lq electaon. Ve had nur

year. But when you look at the the Assem`lq electaon. Ve had nur

voting system for the Assembly it voting syrtem fop the Assembly it

would be extraordinary if they didn't

would be extraordinary if they All the smart money is on Ukip to

Alh dhe slabt moleq is nn Ukip to make a breakthrough. Of

Alh dhe slabt moleq is nn Ukip to they're doing that in a sense when

Alh dhe slabt moleq is nn Ukip to their mind is on

Alh dhe slabt moleq is nn Ukip to theib mind is on somethhng

their mind is on something else, which is the referendum that

their mind is on something else, just eight weeks later. How that

wihl just eight weeks later. How that

will impact on the elections no one is sure. It may be that it puts

will impact on the elections no one Europe front

will impact on the elections no one Eupope frond and centre

will impact on the elections no one Europe front and centre and helps

Ukip. Or they may find Europe front and centre and helps

Ukip. r they max find resources Europe front and centre and helps

Ukip. Or they may find resources are Europe front and centre and helps

a bit stretched as they Europe front and centre and helps

a `id stretched as they are Europe front and centre and helps

a bit stretched as they are fighting Europe front and centre and helps

on two fronds at Europe front and centre and helps

on two fronts at the same time. Europe front and centre and helps

Lep's not ignore how Europe front and centre and helps

an achievement this is for Ukip. Europe front and centre and helps

It's a party that's been around Europe front and centre and helps

20-plus years. To come now to being Europe front and centre and helps

on the verge of substantial on t`e vepge of rubstantial

representation in the Assembly election,

representation in the Assembly elacdion, and

representation in the Assembly election, and to have achieved

representation in the Assembly European referendum, that

representation in the Assembly Eupopean peferendum, that European

European referendum, that European referendum wouldn't be

European referendum, that European referendul gouldl't be tacing

European referendum, that European if it wasn't for Ukip. So, this is a

European referendum, that European party that has broken through in a

European referendum, that European sense on the issue of the

European referendum, that European referendum. The question is now to

redebendul. The puestion as now to establish themselves permanently

redebendul. The puestion as now to a force in Welsh and British

redebendul. The puestion as now to politics. It's a big challenge

pohidics. Id's a bag ch`llenge for Ukip over the next few months

becaese Ukip over the next few months

because it's a party that's becaese it'c a p`rty th`t's

traditionally becaese it'c a p`rty th`t's

tradation`lly been a tradition`lly been a single isrue

party which now also has to have pohicies

party which now also has to have policies in devolved

party which now also has to have pohicies in devolved areas in

party which now also has to have and education and so on. Are they

party which now also has to have being drawn out of their comfort

being dravn out nf their comfort zone? They're having to

zone? They'be hating to adapt. Because one of the things they've

Becaese ole of the thinfs they made very clear

Becaese ole of the thinfs they ma`e very clear hs that t`ey

Becaese ole of the thinfs they made very clear is that they want to

go into the Assembly as made very clear is that they want to

constructive force. They're not colsdructive force. hey're not

going in to disrupt as some would say they've tried to do in the

going in to disrupt as some would European Parliament. They say we

want to m`ke this work, European Parliament. They say we

want to make this work, deliver decent

want to make this work, deliver to come up with policies and we are

beginning to hear some of those. Thare

beginning to hear some of those. There is a Coe herent set

beginning to hear some of those. policies -- coherent. They've had

beginning to hear some of those. difficulty with candidate selection

beginning to hear some of those. coherently but they're in a good

place. Leading the charge coherently but they're in a good

place. Leadang the charge on behalf coherently but they're in a good

of Ukip is the party leader Nigel Farage who joins

of Ukip is the party leader Nigel Fapage who boins us

of Ukip is the party leader Nigel Farage who joins us now

of Ukip is the party leader Nigel venue in Llandudno.

of Ukip is the party leader Nigel venue in Llandudlo. Good afternoon

venue in Llandudno. Good afternoon to you. Good afternoon. There is a

venue in Llandudno. Good afternoon busy few months coming for you

busy few lonths boming for you and all the other political parties in

Wales with an Assembly election and all the other political parties in

the referendum. What's the top priority dob Ukip over the next

the referendum. What's the top months,

the referendum. What's the top molt`s, is

the referendum. What's the top months, is it the Assembly elections

the referendum. What's the top or is it the in-out referendum?

or ic it the in-out referendum> Well,

or ic it the in-out referendum> Wehl, they'be both

or ic it the in-out referendum> Well, they're both important. But

or ic it the in-out referendum> let's be frank, this referendum and

or ic it the in-out referendum> our continued membership of the

or ic it the in-out referendum> European Union is the most

or ic it the in-out referendum> Euro`ean Tnaon is the mnst important

Eupopean Tnaon is the mnst impnrtant political question any of us

Eupopean Tnaon is the mnst impnrtant answer in our life Times. That won't

Eupopean Tnaon is the mnst impnrtant go agay. H guess

Eupopean Tnaon is the mnst impnrtant go away. I guess in a sense the

go agay. H guess in a sdnse thd Assembly elections

go agay. H guess in a sdnse thd and there are legitimate

go agay. H guess in a sdnse thd an` dhere abe legitimate big

go agay. H guess in a sdnse thd and there are legitimate big debates

and there abe legitimate big ddbates about devolved powers in

about devnlfed pnwers in Wales, about how health service

about devnlfed pnwers in Wales, for example, has really not kept up

about devnlfed pnwers in Wales, with the rest of the United Kingdom

an` with the rest of the United Kingdom

and dhey're with the rest of the United Kingdom

and they're legitimate, valid with the rest of the United Kingdom

debates in Assembly elections but I think if we are honest about it the

debates in Assembly elections but I shadow of the European

debates in Assembly elections but I shadow of t`e Eupopean referendum

debates in Assembly elections but I will hang very

debates in Assembly elections but I wihl hang very hdavily nver thdse

debates in Assembly elections but I elections. When your candidates are

knoccing elections. When your candidates are

knocking on doors in Wales and people are telling them they've got

people are dellilg them t`ey'vd got concerns about waiting times in the

concerns `bout waiting times in the NHS, the standard of education, GCSE

NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE results and

NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE will be telling them that's

NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE secondary concern compared to the

NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE refebendul? No,

NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE referendum? No, I am not saying

NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE that. Our Acsembly election

candidates will campaign on caldadates gill bampaign on thnse

things and bear in mind, I heard caldadates gill bampaign on thnse

your debate caldadates gill bampaign on thnse

yoqr debate earlier about Ukip being your debate earlier about Ukip being

a single issue party. Don't your debate earlier about Ukip being

a single hscue party. Don't forget a single issue party. Don't forget

that our manifesto at last year's genebal

that our manifesto at last year's general election was the first

genebal election was thd first ever manifesto in British politics

independently costed and aut itted inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

and -- audited inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

and -- audided and won videspread inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

aclam. We have been working hard. inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

Our candidates will campaign on inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

relevant issues for Wales but I inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

repeat the point, the overhang of inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

this referendum, it must make a big difference.

this referendum, it must make a big didference. We

this referendum, it must make a big in a minute. If I can turn to the

this referendum, it must make a big Assembly elections. For years, the

Assembly dlectiols. or years, the party with devolution

Assembly dlectiols. or years, the you want to shake things up

Assembly dlectiols. or years, the Cardiff Bay. This has

Assembly dlectiols. or years, the a journey for Ukip. Why are you

Assembly dlectiols. or years, the so for the Assembly when you

Assembly dlectiols. or years, the so for thd Assem`ly when qou weren't

Assembly dlectiols. or years, the in the past? Well, half of Wales

in the part? ell, half of Wales were Assembly deniers. Don't forget

in the part? ell, half of Wales this referendum got through with a

in the part? ell, half of Wales majority of 7,000

in the part? ell, half of Wales mahobity nf 7,000 votes. At

majority of 7,000 votes. It really was a cigarette paper that said yes

to setting up the devolved Assembly. was a cigarette paper that said yes

Look, for a couple of years was a cigarette paper that said yes

that, you know, Ukip took a position that, you know, Tkap took a position

on Wales that was against devolution. I was very much

on Wales that was against driving force behind saying actually

on Wales that was against logically Ukip should be the party

logically Ucip should bd the p`rty of devolution. We want powers to be

logically Ucip should bd the p`rty devolved from Brussels

logically Ucip should bd the p`rty detolved drom Brussels to the

logically Ucip should bd the p`rty devolved from Brussels to the United

Kingdom. We devolved from Brussels to the United

Kingdom. Ve want devolved from Brussels to the United

Kingdom. We want powers in the devolved from Brussels to the United

devolved down to devolved from Brussels to the United

devolved dogn to County Councils devolved from Brussels to the United

regional @ssemblies devolved from Brussels to the United

regional Assemblies and parliaments devolved from Brussels to the United

and the ultimate devolution is we devolved from Brussels to the United

brief in direct democracy and brief in dibect democraby and ve

would like to see people able to brief in dibect democraby and ve

call referendums on issues that brief in dibect democraby and ve

affect them. That's ancient history. That's dealt with. The Assembly is

affect them. That's ancient history. there. Does it have anything to

affect them. That's ancient history. with the proportional nature of

affect them. That's ancient history. election here in Wales and you

affect them. That's ancient history. selsed an opportunaty to

affect them. That's ancient history. sensed an opportunity to have

affect them. That's ancient history. elected representatives because you

failed to achieve that elected representatives because you

failed to achievd that `t elected representatives because you

Westminster in any great numbers? Westminster in aly great numbers?

Well, look, you are talking to the leader of the party that won the

Euro`ean leader of the party that won the

European elections in 2014, the European dlectiols in 2014, thd

first party to win a national European dlectiols in 2014, thd

election since 1906, that wasn't the elacdion rince 1806, th`t wasn the

leader of the Labour leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

Party. leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

Paptq. You know, our electional leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

achievements in any form of PR are leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

amazing, the general leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

was the cruellest blow ever dealt leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

a political party winning four leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

million votes and getting one seat. leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

I will say dhis leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

I will say this to leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

I will say dhis to you, leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

I will say this to you, I think Ukip I will sax dhis to you, I thinj Ukip

will win seats in Northern Ireland, in Scotland, in London and in Wales.

will win seats in Northern Ireland, And in doing that we will be

will win seats in Northern Ireland, only party in the UK

onhy party an thd UK winnang sdats in all four of those areas. There is

no question that given there is a PR in all four of those areas. There is

element, the results for the Welsh Assembly elections will be a lot

element, the results for the Welsh fairer than the results were for

fairer th`n the pesults were for last year's general election.

fairer th`n the pesults were for have been on a sticky wicket in

termc have been on a sticky wicket in

terms of trying to select candidates termc of trqing to select candhdates

to represent Ukip on the regional termc of trqing to select candhdates

list in Wales. It's taken you list in W`les. It's takdn you

months. We still have no clarity. Is that because you want to keep

contbol that because you want to keep

control or do you not trust that because you want to keep

coltbol op do you not trust thd control or do you not trust the

meibership control or do you not trust the

membership an control or do you not trust the

membership in Wales to control or do you not trust the

membership an Wales to lace the membership in Wales to make the

decicion? membership in Wales to make the

decision? Oh, no. A list membership in Wales to make the

decicion? Oh, no, A list was given decicion? O`, no, A list was ghven

to you and by all accounts you used a veto and decided to go your own

to you and by all accounts you used way. I decided very much to go my

to you and by all accounts you used own way with this. I said to the

ruling body of the party at one ruling body of the party at ond

meeting that I succeeded at a second ruling body of the party at ond

meeting, let's end the argument, give the Welsh members the right to

make that decision. Devolution, you give the Welsh members the right to

see, I believe in devolution within give the Welsh members the right to

Ukip too. They will make their give the Welsh members the right to

decision and we will know that on decicion `nd we vill knnw that on

7th March and that's the list and 7th March and th`t's thd list `nd

that's the order that we will 7th March and th`t's thd list `nd

that's thd order t`at we will go 7th March and th`t's thd list `nd

with. I mean, look, to be honest 7th March and th`t's thd list `nd

with you, you know, years ago when 7th March and th`t's thd list `nd

Ukip had no hope of winning seats Ukip had lo hope of winning seats

get ago candidate list was Ukip had lo hope of winning seats

easy. Now it's a very competitive process because people

easy. Now it's a very competitive we can win

easy. Now it's a very competitive we can wil between

easy. Now it's a very competitive we can win between 5-10

easy. Now it's a very competitive we can wil between 5-10 seats hn

these we can wil between 5-10 seats hn

thase electaons. Many pdople we can wil between 5-10 seats hn

these elections. Many people within the party in Wales are

these elections. Many people within the `arty in Wales are very

these elections. Many people within the party in Wales are very unhappy

these elections. Many people within at the prospect of having the likes

these elections. Many people within of Neil Hamilton and Mark Reckless

of Neil Hamalton and Mark Reckless standing dob Ukip

of Neil Hamalton and Mark Reckless standing for Ukip in Wales. Well, if

of Neil Hamalton and Mark Reckless members in Wales are unhappy

members il Gales are unhappy with some of the candidates that are

soie of the candhdates that are standing, they now have the absolute

poweb standing, they now have the absolute

power to standing, they now have the absolute

poweb to deal standing, they now have the absolute

power to deal with that issue by not poweb to deal with that issue by not

voting for them. It's called democracy. It generally works pretty

voting for them. It's called well. OK on

voting for them. It's called well. OK nn Europe, in

voting for them. It's called well. OK on Europe, in your speech

today you made an today you made al accus`taon that

the in campaign was putting today you made al accus`taon that

the in calpaign vas putting forwarD the in campaign was putting forward

hysterical arguments, in the same the in campaign was putting forward

speech you referred to people with guns driving across Europe. Is there

an element of hysteria in that guns driving across Europe. Is there

argument? No, I am happy for you to guns driving across Europe. Is there

criticise me but you have to guns driving across Europe. Is there

right, old son. I did not use guns right, old con. H did nnt use funs

today. right, old con. H did nnt use funs

todaq. If it wasl't right, old con. H did nnt use funs

today. If it wasn't you, right, old con. H did nnt use funs

todaq. If it wasl't you, at was thE right, old con. H did nnt use funs

leader in Wales, it was the leader right, old con. H did nnt use funs

of Ukip in right, old con. H did nnt use funs

of Ucip il Gales w`o right, old con. H did nnt use funs

of Ukip in Wales who used that term. Forgive me if you didn't.

of Ukip in Wales who used that term. admitted yourself you did use those

of Ukip in Wales who used that term. words in the past anyway. The point

wopdc in the past anywax. The point remains the same. Isn't

wopdc in the past anywax. The point reiaans the same, Asn't t`at also

wopdc in the past anywax. The point hysterical. Let's not argue abnut

it. Two of those eight people that caqsed

it. Two of those eight people that caused the deaths of all those

people in Paris got back into the European

people in Paris got back into the Euro`ean Tnaon

people in Paris got back into the European Union through

people in Paris got back into the Euro`ean Tnaon through the

people in Paris got back into the European Union through the Greek

people in Paris got back into the Islands

people in Paris got back into the Ishands posing ar

people in Paris got back into the Islands posing as migrants and last

weak Islands posing as migrants and last

week the boss of Islands posing as migrants and last

week the bocs of Europol said ve Islands posing as migrants and last

week the boss of Europol said we now have between 3-5,000

week the boss of Europol said we now terrorists living in mainland

week the boss of Europol said we now terrorists livinf an mahnland Durope

terrorists living in mainland Europe coie

terrorists living in mainland Europe come in through borders. This is

terrorists living in mainland Europe serious. Very serious.

terrorists living in mainland Europe sepious. Teby serious. H

terrorists living in mainland Europe serious. Very serious. I am not

making anx grave predictions about serious. Very serious. I am not

what will happen in the future. But serious. Very serious. I am not

I am saying we need to serious. Very serious. I am not

I am sayilg we nded to be serious. Very serious. I am not

I am saying we need to be on red serious. Very serious. I am not

alert and I am saying that serious. Very serious. I am not

people that are arriving through Graece

people that are arriving through Greece and by the way so far this

people that are arriving through year 15 times the number who came

people that are arriving through last year have arrived, we have no

mephod, last year have arrived, we have no

method, no ability last year have arrived, we have no

mephod, nn ability to method, no ability to check their

backgrounds and that's a method, no ability to check their

backgrounds and that's ` very method, no ability to check their

serious sdcerity method, no ability to check their

serious security concern. I think France and Germany now have a

serious security concern. I think massive problem with this. I am

massive ppoblem vith thhs. I al sorry for them. But I believe

sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that by divorcing ourselves from

sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that political union, by

sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that control

sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that coltrol od

sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that control of our borders, we give

sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that ourselves the best possible level of

sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that protection against these

protectiol againrt thesd people. On the economic arguments, Great

tha economic argtments, Great Britain is a net contributor to the

tha economic argtments, Great UK, Wales is a net beneficiary. You

tha economic argtments, Great can not give a guarantee, can you,

that the money that Wales gets from that the money that Wales gets from

the European Union would be that the money that Wales gets from

safeguarded by the UK Government? that the money that Wales gets from

You can in the give that definite guarantee, can you? Well, you know,

You can in the give that definite Wales and EU money is an interesting

sum. Wales is 5% of the UK and the Wales and EU money is an interesting

United Kingdom gives about ?20 United Kilgdom ghves abnut ?20

billion a year to United Kilgdom ghves abnut ?20

bihlaon a year to the EU. That United Kilgdom ghves abnut ?20

prorata for Wales would be a billion. Wales gets back about 600

million, half of which comes back in billion. Wales gets back about 600

agricultural support. The rest comes back in ways

agricultural support. The rest comes back in wayc whepe

agricultural support. The rest comes back in ways where the spending is

back in wayc whepe the rpendinf is determined by

detebmined by thd Europdan Commission themselves. Now, I

detebmined by thd Europdan there are people in the public

sector on fat salaries in Cardiff who do very, very well out of

who do very, very well nut of European Union funds. I do not

acce`t European Union funds. I do not

accept that ordilary European Union funds. I do not

accept that ordinary Welsh people an`

accept that ordinary Welsh people and workers are getting any

accept that ordinary Welsh people an` workeps are fetting any Ben fit

and workers are getting any Ben fit from this money. Bear in mind... --

benefit. It's our money anyway. It's from this money. Bear in mind... --

our money. The struggling from this money. Bear in mind... --

farmer who has seen the price of his mihk

farmer who has seen the price of his milk fall because supermarkets are

farmer who has seen the price of his not passing it on, who are rather

farmer who has seen the price of his dependent on the ?20,000 a year in

Euro`ean dependent on the ?20,000 a year in

European aid that they dependent on the ?20,000 a year in

would see no difference whatsoever dependent on the ?20,000 a year in

in their standard of life dependent on the ?20,000 a year in

in t`eir rtandard of life if Wales in their standard of life if Wales

was not a member of the European Union? Well, agricultural and

was not a member of the European fisheries, we

was not a member of the European fisheries, ge halded

was not a member of the European European community as

was not a member of the European Euro`ean bommunity as it

was not a member of the European European community as it then was,

back in 1973, when we joined. Prior European community as it then was,

to us joining, we supported British to uc joining, we supported British

agriculture. We did to uc joining, we supported British

agpiculture. e did it to uc joining, we supported British

agriculture. We did it properly and to uc joining, we supported British

well to uc joining, we supported British

wehl from 1947 olwards to uc joining, we supported British

well from 1947 onwards and nobody to uc joining, we supported British

but nobody is suggesting we to uc joining, we supported British

but nobodx is sufgesting we wouldn t but nobody is suggesting we wouldn't

make sure that the sheep farm and evarqthinf

make sure that the sheep farm and everything else was given funds

make sure that the sheep farm and evarqthinf else vas givdn funds to

make sure that the sheep farm and make sure it could keep going to

make sure that the sheep farm and avoid rural der hks.

make sure that the sheep farm and avoid rural der iks. Farming will

have the same level of support avoid rural der iks. Farming will

have the same letel of rupport in avoid rural der iks. Farming will

Wales as it has now as a member of tha

Wales as it has now as a member of the European Union. Fisheries, on

the Europdan nion. isheries, on the other hand, there will

the Europdan nion. isheries, on massive benefit for fishing

the Europdan nion. isheries, on massive bdnefit dor fishing boats

the Europdan nion. isheries, on massive benefit for fishing boats in

massave bdnefit dor fishing boats in Wales if we take back our own

Wahec if we take back our own territorial waters. At the

Wahec if we take back our own June we could possibly be in a

posidion June we could possibly be in a

position where Ukip has done June we could possibly be in a

posidion where Ukip has done rather position where Ukip has done rather

wehl position where Ukip has done rather

well in the Welsh Assembly position where Ukip has done rather

elections, that you have a position where Ukip has done rather

representative in the Assembly. But that you have lost the

that you hafe lost the referendum. Where would that leave Ukip's future

that you hafe lost the referendum. as a party? I have no idea and

as a party? I hate no idea and nor have you. Look, when the SNP lost

as a party? I hate no idea and nor the Scottish referendum some

as a party? I hate no idea and nor it's the end of the SNP and what

happened was the opposite. They it's the end of the SNP and what

happened wac the opposite. They went it's the end of the SNP and what

on to almost have it's the end of the SNP and what

on to almost havd a it's the end of the SNP and what

on to almost have a landslide in the it's the end of the SNP and what

parliamentary elections in Scotland. parlaamentaby elections in Scotland.

I can't predict what the future is parlaamentaby elections in Scotland.

going to be. What I can say is that parlaamentaby elections in Scotland.

this referendum is our one chance in this refependum hs our nne chance in

a lifetime to get back self-Government control and

sehf-confidence self-Government control and

self-confidence within the UK and I sehf-confidence vithin the UK `nd I

hope the Welsh people and the hope the Velsh pdople and the rest

of the British people take hope the Velsh pdople and the rest

opportunity. Nigel Farage, thank you oppobtunity. igdl Farafe, thank you

very much for joining us. So from ona

very much for joining us. So from one leader to another. Earlier

very much for joining us. So from conference heard from the party's

Wehs` conference heard from the party's

Welsh leader, conference heard from the party's

Wels` leadeb, Nathan conference heard from the party's

Welsh leader, Nathan Gill. Here conference heard from the party's

Wels` leadeb, Nathan Gill. Here is Welsh leader, Nathan Gill. Here is

what he had Welsh leader, Nathan Gill. Here is

what he h`d to Welsh leader, Nathan Gill. Here is

what he had to say. what he h`d to s`y.

Thank you, conference. After more than 20 years the journey that Nigel

an` a few than 20 years the journey that Nigel

and a few other brave and determined men

and a few other brave and determined mel and

and a few other brave and determined men and women started has now

and a few other brave and determined snowballed into

and a few other brave and determined snowballed anto the party

and a few other brave and determined snowballed into the party that

snowballed anto the party that we see today. Finally, we have a

snowballed anto the party that we that we hope will, forever more, be

snowballed anto the party that we known as UK Independence Day.

APPLAUSE known as UK Independence Day.

June 23rd. We only have 16 weeks to go. 16 weeks in which we must be

June 23rd. We only have 16 weeks to united. 16 weeks in which we must

June 23rd. We only have 16 weeks to give every last ounce of effort. 16

June 23rd. We only have 16 weeks to weeks to change the course of

history for good. If you are ever going to deliver a leaflet in

history for good. If you are ever life, if

history for good. If you are ever lide, if xoe

history for good. If you are ever life, if you are ever going to knock

on a door, if you are ever going to donate to a cause, this, my friends,

on a door, if you are ever going to is the time.

It will be no solace to think of It wall bd no solace to t`ink nf

things we could or should have done the day after the referendum.

Knowang the day after the referendum.

Knowing that the day after the referendum.

Knowang thad we could have dond Knowing that we could have done more

and didn't. It will be no solace to Knowing that we could have done more

think, remember the only thing neaded

think, remember the only thing needed for bad to triumph is

think, remember the only thing good people to do nothing. Let's

think, remember the only thing make sure that each of us can look

in the mirror and make sure that each of us can look

that we dhd make sure that each of us can look

that we did our make sure that each of us can look

that we dhd our `ll. When push comes to shove, the

British people always make the right Britash pdo`le always m`ke the right

decisions. decicions,

I remember wondering decicions,

I remember gondeping how we decicions,

I remember wondering how we would evar

I remember wondering how we would ever get a referendum in the first

evar get ` beferendum in the first place. It always seemed like to

quote from dhe place. It always seemed like to

quote from the man of La place. It always seemed like to

quote from dhe m`n of L` Mancha, place. It always seemed like to

quote from the man of La Mancha, to place. It always seemed like to

dream the impossible dream. We are a place. It always seemed like to

nation of dreamers, mistakes of men nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

and women nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

an` gomen w`o hate never nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

and women who have never been afraid nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

of the nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

of t`e dapk. nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

of the dark. Nor the unknown, we are nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

a ladion nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

a nation of pioneers, nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

a ladion nf pionders, in nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

a nation of pioneers, in politics an`

a nation of pioneers, in politics and democracy. And we in Ukip are

a nation of pioneers, in politics leading that battle now.

It amazingst me that a British Prime leading that battle now.

Minister that along with the leading that battle now.

establishment, are now saying to leading that battle now.

that a vote for Brexit is a leap inpo

that a vote for Brexit is a leap into the dark. A leap into the

unknown. What we should stick into the dark. A leap into the

the status into the dark. A leap into the

tha ctatus auo ald into the dark. A leap into the

the status quo and we must vote to into the dark. A leap into the

stay in our comfortable malaisd. That somehow certainty is being

ruhed That somehow certainty is being

ruled from abroad, with no control ruhed from abroad, with no control

on the ruhed from abroad, with no control

on t`e laws that govern us. ruhed from abroad, with no control

on the laws that govern us. With no ruhed from abroad, with no control

say on who can come into ruhed from abroad, with no control

country. With no say on how we ruhed from abroad, with no control

or fish, and no say on who ruhed from abroad, with no control

the next member state of the EU. ruhed from abroad, with no control

have no say on the very things that affect oup

have no say on the very things that affect our daily lives.

have no say on the very things that We have an escalating migrant

crisas, We have an escalating migrant

crisis, and we have another We have an escalating migrant

disaster on the horizon. How is that certainty>

disaster on the horizon. How is that certainty? This is bizarre. Thank

heavens these people were not in charge throughout our history.

heavens these people were not in charge thpoughout our hhstory. They

heavens these people were not in do not know that as a people,

heavens these people were not in have always taken brave

heavens these people were not in is who we are. That is our

is w`o we abe. That is nur character, it is in our DNA.

is w`o we abe. That is nur APPLAUSE

APPLAU E Thank

APPLAU E Thanc heavens captain

APPLAU E Thank heavens captain James Cook

di`n't Thank heavens captain James Cook

didn't heed any advice not to take di`n't heed any `dvice not to take

his great voyage of di`n't heed any `dvice not to take

because it was a leap into the dark. di`n't heed any `dvice not to take

Brunel, don't make an ocean going ship out of metal, you crazy? That

is a leap into the dark. Edward Jenner, injecting cow

is a leap into the dark. Edward healthy people? What madness.

is a leap into the dark. Edward Hudson, Drake. Livingston,

is a leap into the dark. Edward Hu`son, Dpace. Livangston, rally

is a leap into the dark. Edward Hudson, Drake. Livingston, rally --

is a leap into the dark. Edward Raleigh. All helped shape the modern

world we Raleigh. All helped shape the modern

wopld we life Raleigh. All helped shape the modern

world we live in by taking giant wopld we life in bq takhng giant

leaps into the dark. I think we can see a pattern developing here. We

leaps into the dark. I think we can are a people that have always taken

brave leaps. Because if you do not are a people that have always taken

do that, the are a people that have always taken

do t`at, the only alternative do that, the only alternative is

going backwards. There is no do that, the only alternative is

standing still in this world. Either do that, the only alternative is

we are developing progressing, innofatinf

we are developing progressing, innovating and discovering or we are

inlofatinf and dhscovering or ve are falling behind those nations who

inlofatinf and dhscovering or ve are not afraid of change, and

improvemelt. not afraid of change, and

improvement. Well, we all know, not afraid of change, and

don't we, that the EU has not afraid of change, and

while the rest of the world while the rest od the world har

grown and grown. Is our while the rest od the world har

Minister really saying be afraid? while the rest od the world har

Fear progress? Fear stand on your while the rest od the world har

two feet and fear innovation, we all two feet `nd feap annov`taon, ve all

know that the inners think we are nop

know that the inners think we are not good enough.

know that the inners think we are not good dnough. T`at we

know that the inners think we are not good enough. That we cannot make

know that the inners think we are our own law, and we cannot trade

know that the inners think we are with the

know that the inners think we are wiph the whole

know that the inners think we are That we need to be governed from

know that the inners think we are Brussels in order to keep

Brqssels hn ordep to keep our nation secure and save our jobs. What

Brqssels hn ordep to keep our nation madness. The EU's borderless

dystopia is a terrorist's dream. Put dystopia hs a teprorist's dreal. Put

a Kalashnikov in the boot of dystopia hs a teprorist's dreal. Put

car and drive half way across car and dpife half way `cross

Europe, without car and dpife half way `cross

Euro`e, wit`out `eang car and dpife half way `cross

Europe, without being stopped Eupo`e, wit`out `eang stopped `nd

commit mass murder in any capital cipy

commit mass murder in any capital city you choose. So much for

city you bhoose. So much for ET protection. And the jobs line. Line.

APPLAUSE. APPLAUSE.

The three million jobs lie What must APPLAUSE.

we do to finally kill that myth? On APPLAUSE.

angle sea, the biggest employer APPLAUSE.

angle sea aluminium was forced APPLAUSE.

close in 00!3 APPLAUSE.

close in 2013 with the loss APPLAUSE.

hundreds of highly paid jobs because APPLAUSE.

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here in Port Talbot has laid

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here thousands of jobs, in what is

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here last major manufacturing

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here Once gone, all nine of Wales'

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here metal

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here mepal oro refinepies

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here metal oro refineries would are

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here destroyed since 20076789 once

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here fairness is --

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here fairness hs -- furnace

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here fairness is -- furnace is turned off

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here it will never be turned on again.

of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here Why? Because in 1975 we gave away

Why? Becatse in 0975 we gave avay the right to

Why? Becatse in 0975 we gave avay tha bight to stop foreign

Why? Becatse in 0975 we gave avay the right to stop foreign nations

Why? Becatse in 0975 we gave avay from dumping cheap products on

from dumphng cheap prodtcts on to our market.

So with the perfect storm of EU So wath the perfect storm of ET

environmental directives, pushing up enargy

environmental directives, pushing up energy costs

environmental directives, pushing up energy costc beynnd

energy costs beyond all reason, EU directives stopping the state from

energy costs beyond all reason, EU stepping into help and EU doing

step`ing hndo help and DU doinf nothing to stop Chinese dumping of

step`ing hndo help and DU doinf cheap steel on to our markets, we

can see that Brussels really thinks aboud

can see that Brussels really thinks about Wales, Welsh industry and

can see that Brussels really thinks Welsh jobs. They don't give a dam.

can see that Brussels really thinks This madness...

APPLAU E This madness...

APPLAUSE APPLAUSE. This madness...

This madness has to come to an end. Tha

This madness has to come to an end. The good news is that it can end,

This madness has to come to an end. and it will. If we take

This madness has to come to an end. and at will. f ve take t`at leap

This madness has to come to an end. and it will. If we take that leap of

This madness has to come to an end. faith, on 23rd June,

This madness has to come to an end. faith, on 2?rd June, and

This madness has to come to an end. faith, on 23rd June, and vote to

This madness has to come to an end. leave the EU. This is not a leap

This madness has to come to an end. into the dark, really. It is a leap

This madness has to come to an end. into the light.

This madness has to come to an end. actually a leap of faith.

This madness has to come to an end. actually ` leap nf faith. Faith in

This madness has to come to an end. our people. Faith in our own

abilities. In the fact that as a abilities, An thd fact that as a

nation, we have time abilities, An thd fact that as a

napion, we have time after timd abilities, An thd fact that as a

risen admirably to whatever the abilities, An thd fact that as a

world can throw at us. And we abilities, An thd fact that as a

world can t`row `t us. And we will world can throw at us. And we will

again. The the good news is right again. Thd dhe gnod news as right

here in Wales, there are enough here in W`les, there are enough

sensible people out there who want a selsable people nut there who vant a

future of freedom. A future of deiocracy,

future of freedom. A future of democracy. A future where

future of freedom. A future of can forge our own destiny. We

future of freedom. A future of cal forge oer owl destiny. We can

future of freedom. A future of bring back the 75% of laws that

faceless bureaucrats in Brussels are making, from farming, fishing and

faceless bureaucrats in Brussels are employment. Energy, business and

faceless bureaucrats in Brussels are trade. A whole host of laws that

trade. A vhole hnst of laws th`t would end up right where they

trade. A vhole hnst of laws th`t belong. Here in Wales. Written for

tha belong. Here in Wales. Written for

the people of Wales, by the people tha `eople of Wales, by t`e people

of Wales and for t`e people tha `eople of Wales, by t`e people

of Wales and for the people of tha `eople of Wales, by t`e people

Wales, to democratically vote on. tha `eople of Wales, by t`e people

Now thaw is what I call real devolution. When we leave the EU, we

wihl devolution. When we leave the EU, we

will claim back the 200 mile fishing devolution. When we leave the EU, we

zone round Wales and devolve it to zole round Gales and devolve it to

the assembly. Think of zole round Gales and devolve it to

the assem`lq. Thhnk of the zole round Gales and devolve it to

the assembly. Think of the revenue that that could `ring to

the assembly. Think of the revenue that that could bring to our

country. coqndry.

We can help our farmers farm coqndry.

We can help our darmers farm in the coqndry.

way they have for centuries coqndry.

way dhey hafe for centuries and coqndry.

the produce our produce some of the coqndry.

best in the world. We can protect our industries, tap into our

best in the world. We can protect of natural resources and put

best in the world. We can protect of natural besoupces and put power

best in the world. We can protect back into the hands of the people.

To paraphrase our great Welsh poet Dyhan

To paraphrase our great Welsh poet Dylan Thomas, we as a nation will

Dylan homac, we as a n`taon will not go gently into that good night.

Or... Or...

APPLAUSE. Orientally into Or...

as part of an EU superstate. APPLAU E.

as part of an EU superstate. APPLAUSE. This is the land

as part of an EU superstate. APPLAUSE. T`is is the land of

as part of an EU superstate. APPLAUSE. This is the land of Keats

an` APPLAUSE. This is the land of Keats

and words worth. Tenny son and an` gords worth. Tenny ron and

Shakespeare, Dickens, an` gords worth. Tenny ron and

Chaucer and Tolkein, Lennon and Chaucer and Tolkdin, Lennon and

McCartney. Chaucer and Tolkdin, Lennon and

McCabtney, Drake Chaucer and Tolkdin, Lennon and

McCartney. Drake and McCabtney. Drake and Raleagh.

Faraday, Crick, Brunel, McCabtney. Drake and Raleagh.

Newton. Nelson, Cromwell, Shaccletol,

Newton. Nelson, Cromwell, Shackleton, Pankhurst, Hawkin.ed by

Newton. Nelson, Cromwell, aer, nightingale. Scotland,

Newton. Nelson, Cromwell, Lloyd George, Churchill,

Newton. Nelson, Cromwell, Lloyd Geopge, Chtrchill, and FaragE.

Lloyd eopge, Chtrchill, and F`rage. O

APPLAUSE. We have bdcome a

APPLAUSE. We have become a nation

APPLAUSE. We have bdcome a nation of

APPLAUSE. We have become a nation of lions led

APPLAUSE. by donkeys. At this our moment of

APPLAUSE. greatest need, let us have faith

APPLAUSE. that the people of our land will

that the people nf our land will rise to the task and vote to leave

the EU. We will arm them with knowledge, and show them courage,

knowledge, and show them courafe, and belief in a brighter tomorrow.

knowledge, and show them courafe, The latest opinion polls here in

Wales show, that we the Brexit eers The latest opinion polls here in

are in the lead. Let us keep that moientum

are in the lead. Let us keep that momentum going, let us keep that

momentum foang, let us jeep th`t momentum going, and as a brave,

momentum foang, let us jeep th`t momentum going, `nd as a brave, a

momentum foang, let us jeep th`t proud nation, with self brief

momentum foang, let us jeep th`t courage, Wales will vote to leave

courage, Vales will vote to leave the EU. Thank you.

courage, Vales will vote to leave APPLAUSE. And from Nathan Gill's

courage, Vales will vote to leave leap into the dark, to the light and

courage, Vales will vote to leave airy seafront of Llandudno where our

repobter airy seafront of Llandudno where our

reporter has some company. Good airy seafront of Llandudno where our

afternoon Paul. airy seafront of Llandudno where our

Afternoon. Welcome back to beautiful airy seafront of Llandudno where our

Llandudno, a town just recovering from one deluge of politician, media

Llandudno, a town just recovering and pressure groups, after last

Llandudno, a town just recovering week's Labour Conference, now

Llandudno, a town just recovering week's La`oer Colference, now ht has

week's Labour Conference, now it has anot`er

week's Labour Conference, now it has another one. Ukip are in town, Gala

week's Labour Conference, now it has dinner last night

week's Labour Conference, now it has dinner lart night and thear

dinner last night and their conference today. You would think

dinner last night and their the party would be in chipper

tha `arty would `e in chipper spirits. It has the referendum on

tha spirits. It has the referendum on

the EU membership it spirits. It has the referendum on

experts agree it is on the verge of a breakthrough at the

a `reakthroegh at the avaalable election.

a `reakthroegh at the avaalable elacdion. As

a `reakthroegh at the avaalable election. As we know there has

a lot of problems bubbling under. I a lot of problems bubbling under. I

am joined by two members now. a lot of problems bubbling under. I

Alexandra-0s. Alex a lot of problems bubbling under. I

Alaxandra,0s. Alex Philip, is `ll Alexandra,0c. Alex Philip, is `ll

row sip in the garden? It is in fact. There is always

row sip in the garden? It is in it comes to selection process,

row sip in the garden? It is in it comes to selectaon process, I

it comes to selection process, I have been with the

it comes to selection process, I hate been wath the party

it comes to selection process, I have been with the party seven year,

have been wath the party seven year, I have seen

have been wath the party seven year, I hafe seen it

have been wath the party seven year, I have seen it in the general

have been wath the party seven year, election, European

have been wath the party seven year, it to the membership to vote on is

it to the membershap to vote on is probably the most democratic thing

tha probably the most democratic thing

the party could do, I fully support probably the most democratic thing

are you probably the most democratic thing

are qou klog, probably the most democratic thing

are you know, this probably the most democratic thing

after a resignation this week from afpeb a resagnation this week from

John Atkinson, a senior organiser afpeb a resagnation this week from

from the party. He said he had enough of the infighting. We

enough of t`e indightinf. We gdt here and we have clearly,

enough of t`e indightinf. We gdt split within the leave

enough of t`e indightinf. We gdt Carswell, your MP at one, Nigel

Farage or leader at the other, it Fapage or leader at the other, it

seems there is so much tension Fapage or leader at the other, it

internally, what can effect is that intebnally, what can effect is that

having? It is politics. It happens having? It as politics. It happens

in every party. We are having a more in every pabty. Ve are having ` more

protracted issue and it is played in every pabty. Ve are having ` more

out publicly. This happens all the time. People get

out publicly. This happens all the politics. People their conviction,

out publicly. This happens all the they want to do vhat

out publicly. This happens all the they want to do what they

out publicly. This happens all the they want to do vhat they believe In

out publicly. This happens all the it is good we

out publicly. This happens all the it ic good ge have

out publicly. This happens all the it is good we have so many

out publicly. This happens all the clamouring on the leave side. One

out publicly. This happens all the those organisations

out publicly. This happens all the official designation and everyone

ofdicial decignation and everynne will come

ofdicial decignation and everynne wihl come togethdr.

ofdicial decignation and everynne will come together. It shows there

ofdicial decignation and everynne is a lot of passion behind Brexit.

So you know, I don't want to look at So you knnw, dnn't want to look at

this negatively, people are free to decide whn

this negatively, people are free to decide who they want to support. A

lop decide who they want to support. A

lot people are walking round with sticcers

lot people are walking round with stickers of all the various

lot people are walking round with organisations and there seems to be

a new one cropping up every day, if you look at

a new one cropping up every day, if yoq look `t the

a new one cropping up every day, if having as many problems. On

a new one cropping up every day, if hating as many ppoblems. On that, a

having as many problems. On that, a common charge that you have thrown

having as many problems. On that, a at them is they are operating on a

at t`em is dhey `re operating nn a project fear. We heard Nathan Gill's

at t`em is dhey `re operating nn a speech he made earlier, and one of

his main lines was, the idea of a speech he made earlier, and one of

terrorist driving a Kalashnikov speech he made earlier, and one of

the boot across Europe to Wales. I speech he made earlier, and one of

don't think he is speech he made earlier, and one of

dol'd thilk he is sayinf speech he made earlier, and one of

don't think he is saying to Wales. speech he made earlier, and one of

He didn't say people would come speech he made earlier, and one of

Kalashnikovs to Wales. What he speech he made earlier, and one of

pointed out and it is speech he made earlier, and one of

the massacre in Paris. We know the massabre in Paris. Ve know they

came from Belgium and Syria, and the massabre in Paris. Ve know they

border free the massabre in Paris. Ve know they

bopder free Europe the massabre in Paris. Ve know they

border free Europe allows wrong the massabre in Paris. Ve know they

doers to be able to move round wiphout

doers to be able to move round without passport check, under the

radar, without passport check, under the

radab, so he is without passport check, under the

radar, so he is making a without passport check, under the

ra`ab, so he is lacing ` cey radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

about security, radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

about securaty, which radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

about security, which a lot radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

people wouldn't dispute. You made a radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

speech to conference this morning, radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

and one od radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

and one of the main messages that radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

Ukip Wales is pushing today is an Ukip Wales as purhang today is an EU

exited means more powers Ukip Wales as purhang today is an EU

assembly. Some voters might be Ukip Wales as purhang today is an EU

confused about what Ukip means when confesed `bout what kip means when

it comes to devolution. Some confesed `bout what kip means when

have seen them as more of a deVoe hate seen t`em ar more nf a deVoe

sceptic party, what is the message hate seen t`em ar more nf a deVoe

on devolution When we talk on devolution Whdn we talc about

more powers we are on devolution Whdn we talc about

mope poweps we ape talking on devolution Whdn we talc about

more powers we are talking about the on devolution Whdn we talc about

powers that the assembly has but the on devolution Whdn we talc about

European Union are Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

regulations on those areas. Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

message is clear, the only way if we Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

want a functional Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

want a funcdional assembly, working Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

in the interest of the people Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

Wahec we Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

Wales we have to leave the European Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

Union and get control Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

Union and get coltrol of Union and get control of those

powers Union and get control of those

powebs ag`in. Union and get control of those

powers again. Turn our attention to yoqr

powers again. Turn our attention to your Assembly election campaign,

your Assembly election bampaign, we have heard policies this weekend,

your Assembly election bampaign, we what are the kind of messages you

wihl what are the kind of messages you

will focus on that are Assembly election policies?

Reintroducing Assembly election policies?

Reindroducing grammar Assembly election policies?

Reintroducing grammar schools Reindrodubing grammar sbhools vould

be one. We have found the UK, Wales Reindrodubing grammar sbhools vould

in term of average are sending less stqdents

in term of average are sending less students to the top five

in term of average are sending less universities in the UK. Cambridge,

in term of average are sending less Oxford, I think that is an

in term of average are sending less embarrassment we are doing that.

embabrasslent we are doing that. It is about bringing social mobility.

embabrasslent we are doing that. It We are talking about

embabrasslent we are doing that. It We abe talking about a

embabrasslent we are doing that. It We are talking about a different

embabrasslent we are doing that. It type of Government in the

embabrasslent we are doing that. It and we will provide a real

oppocitiol. and we will provide a real

opposition. What about the oppocitiol. What about the tenrion

there has been and the impact that there has been ald the hmpact that

could have on there has been ald the hmpact that

could havd on on assembly there has been ald the hmpact that

could have on on assembly group if yoq

could have on on assembly group if you elect one. I mean, there has

you elect one. I mean, there h`s been no secrets of the tension

been no sdcbets nf the tension within this election process,

been no sdcbets nf the tension once you have a group in the

been no sdcbets nf the tension assembly, if that is the

been no sdcbets nf the tension assembly, if that is thd case, how

been no sdcbets nf the tension are you going to work together?

been no sdcbets nf the tension selection process. The membership

ara selection process. The membership

are deciding. We can't argue with are decidhng. We can't `rgue with

the democratic vote of the are decidhng. We can't `rgue with

membership. We have to get on with are decidhng. We can't `rgue with

the job at hand. I didn't get into pohidics

the job at hand. I didn't get into politics to be someone or

the job at hand. I didn't get into new friends. I got into politics to

do something. So, once new friends. I got into politics to

list announced we are getting list announced we are gdtting behind

what the decision is and providing a list announced we are gdtting behind

real opposition at the Assembly. It's become a cosy consensus, the

Conservatives are what I would call Conservatives are what H would call

vanilla. The Labour Government Conservatives are what H would call

been an embarrassment on health, edqcation

been an embarrassment on health, education and the economy. We have

coie education and the economy. We have

come to take education and the economy. We have

One policy you are pushing this weakend

One policy you are pushing this weekend is this hdea

One policy you are pushing this weekend is this idea of

One policy you are pushing this senior management in the NHS. But

One policy you are pushing this your colleague Mark Reckless in a

ra`io your colleague Mark Reckless in a

radio interview on Friday couldn't say how muc` money

radio interview on Friday couldn't say how much money that would

radio interview on Friday couldn't How credible are

radio interview on Friday couldn't How credi`le are t`ese policies?

How credible are these policies? I thinc

How credible are these policies? I think you have to wait before we

How credible are these policies? I release our manifesto. Not all the

partaes release our manifesto. Not all the

parties have released their manifestos yet. There is a process

parties have released their we have got. We have a date on

parties have released their cahendar. You

parties have released their calendar. You will see everything

ouplaned calendar. You will see everything

outlined of our policies. Final one to you, Alex. You

outlined of our policies. Final one to you, Alep. You in

outlined of our policies. Final one to you, Alex. You in media stories

ovar the last to you, Alex. You in media stories

over the last few months over the lact few monthr `ave been

put in a category with Mark Reckless over the lact few monthr `ave been

and indeed Neil Hamilton, this idea that you don't have the links to

that you don't h`ve the lanks to Wales, you are not part of the

that you don't h`ve the lanks to here and have

that you don't h`ve the lanks to hepe and hafe been parabhuted hn,

here and have been parachuted in, what some grass

here and have been parachuted in, What's your response? What's your

What's your respnnse? What's ynur response, we went is to school

What's your respnnse? What's ynur together and I have worked at ITV

Wahec together and I have worked at ITV

Wales and Ucip together and I have worked at ITV

Wales and Ukip Wales, I have lived together and I have worked at ITV

in Cardiff most of my adult life. together and I have worked at ITV

can understand there is also together and I have worked at ITV

consternation when it comes together and I have worked at ITV

consternation whdn it comes it consternation when it comes it a

sehection consternation when it comes it a

selection process. Of course people consternation when it comes it a

want people with connections to consternation when it comes it a

Wales, that's important. You need to consternation when it comes it a

be able to represent the people be able to bepresent thd people who

are going to be able to bepresent thd people who

ara going to vote be able to bepresent thd people who

are going to vote you in. So, I be able to bepresent thd people who

dol'd thilk be able to bepresent thd people who

don't think my be able to bepresent thd people who

dol'd thilk my Welsh be able to bepresent thd people who

don't think my Welsh credentials are in doubt. I hope actually that the

meibership gill in doubt. I hope actually that the

membership will be rather assuaged in doubt. I hope actually that the

by that. in doubt. I hope actually that the

by t`at. Do in doubt. I hope actually that the

by that. Do you feel that you by that. Do you deel th`t you `nd

the other members in Wales are happy by that. Do you deel th`t you `nd

to share ` `latform with by that. Do you deel th`t you `nd

to share a platform with Neil by that. Do you deel th`t you `nd

Hamilton were he he to be Haiilton vebe he he to be selected

Happy to share a platform with Happy to rhare a platform with

everyone, Happy to rhare a platform with

evaryone, we are all together. everyone, we are all together. Thank

yoq everyone, we are all together. Thank

you very luch. Back everyone, we are all together. Thank

you very much. Back to everyone, we are all together. Thank

you very luch. Back to you in everyone, we are all together. Thank

Thank you very much. More from Paul everyone, we are all together. Thank

during everyone, we are all together. Thank

duping thd afterloon. everyone, we are all together. Thank

during the afternoon. Earlier everyone, we are all together. Thank

conference heard about the everyone, we are all together. Thank

conference `eard about the problems conference heard about the problems

Ukip say are facing the health conference heard about the problems

service in Wales. From their candidate Caroline Jones.

Thanc candidate Caroline Jones.

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. I woqld

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. I would like to speak on a devolved

araa, would like to speak on a devolved

area, the NHS in Wales. (Speaks in would like to speak on a devolved

Welsh) Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Llandudno for

Welsh) Good morning, ladies and our spring conference. As most

Welsh) Good morning, ladies and people here will already know,

Welsh) Good morning, ladies and health is a devolved area in

Welsh) Good morning, ladies and and is under the control of the

an` as undeb the control of thd Labour Government in the Welsh

an` as undeb the control of thd Assembly. One expectation from this

Goternment an return for the hhgh taxes we pay in Vales is

Goternment an return for the hhgh taxes we pay in Wales is that our

most vulnerable in society are looked after and indeed we, in our

most vulnerable in society are time of need, can depend upon

tiie of nded, cal depend upon the NHS to deliver a competent, caring

tiie of nded, cal depend upon the and efficient service. Since records

and efficient sepvace. Rince records began in 00 9,

and efficient sepvace. Rince records began in 2009, A units have never

and efficient sepvace. Rince records met their targets, along can cancer

treatment and met their targets, along can cancer

times. The Labour Government's mismanagement of our NHS has

mismanagement of our NHS `as led to a shameful performance where

manipulation and experimentation has a shameful performance where

even taken place using a traffic lighds

even taken place using a traffic lights system to place calls in

order of urgency. The lights system to place calls in

order of urgency, The time order of urgency. The time element

can change order of urgency. The time element

cal change for the patient, without order of urgency. The time element

them even being aware. Changing from order of urgency. The time element

amber to green without any notice at alh.

amber to green without any notice at all. A chief executive of the

amber to green without any notice at stated that having an ambulance

arrive at a patient's door stated that having an ambulance

does not translate to stated that having an ambulance

doas not translate to a stated that having an ambulance

does not translate to a better oupcome.

does not translate to a better outcome. They would say this,

wouldn't they? How else can outcome. They would say this,

defend themselves? The Welsh Govebnment'c

defend themselves? The Welsh Govebnment's answer

defend themselves? The Welsh Government's answer to meeting these

defend themselves? The Welsh targets is to move the goal posts

whic` create targets is to move the goal posts

which create the impression whic` create the impresrion th`t

targets are being met. We need whic` create the impresrion th`t

accountability and transparency from accoentabhlaty ald tranrparency from

the Labour Government regarding these timds and

the Labour Government regarding these times and we need to know how

the Labour Government regarding the missed target times

tha missed darget times have impacted upon a patient's life. We

tha missed darget times have also know that 12333 hours were lost

in just three months in 2015 across in jest three molt`s in 2015 abross

ABMU health board in jest three molt`s in 2015 abross

ABIU health board area in jest three molt`s in 2015 abross

ABMU health board area because in jest three molt`s in 2015 abross

ABIU health board area because of ABMU health board area because of

dehaqed ABMU health board area because of

delayed patients transfer to A ABMU health board area because of

where ambulances were parked outside the hospitals, instead of being

where ambulances were parked outside deployed to emergency calls. More

morale at the ambulance service is deployed to emergency calls. More

at an all-time low and figures show deployed to emergency calls. More

only 51% arrived at the scene only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

the eight-minute target. There are only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

currently seven local health only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

in Wales and they oversee all only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

hospitals, only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

hospatals, are responsible only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

hospitals, are responsible for the only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

treatment, only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

traadment, meetilg of only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

treatment, meeting of targets and treatment, meetilg of targets `nd

community services. Executive directors are employed by the

community services. Executive boards and independent board members

ara boards and independent board members

are appointed by the Minister for boards and independent board members

Health and Social Services. We in Healdh and Cocial Services. We in

Ukip believe it is wrong for political parties to appoint friends

to t`e political parties to appoint friends

to the board as to t`e board as rtatistical

information states that 75% of to t`e board as rtatistical

chairs, vice-chairs and members of to t`e board as rtatistical

these boards who have declared to t`e board as rtatistical

afillation to a political party to t`e board as rtatistical

indeed members of the Labour in`eed members od the L`bour Party.

APPLAUSE in`eed members od the L`bour Party.

Many in`eed members od the L`bour Party.

Maly partiec in`eed members od the L`bour Party.

Many parties accuse Ukip falsely of Many partiec accuse kip falsely of

wanting to privatise the NHS. Let me be clear on this subject,

conference. As a person who conference. As a person w`o suffered

cancer nine years ago conference. As a person w`o suffered

cancer nile years ago and conference. As a person w`o suffered

cancer nine years ago and was dependent on both

cancer nine years ago and was chemotherapy, I would never ever

cancer nine years ago and was support a party who wanted to

privatise our The routines in the

APPLAUSE The routines in the

hospital where I had my treatment hospital vhere I had my treatmdnt

ran like clock welcome. The nurses were specially trained and

were specially tpaaned `nd were second to none. How disappointing

were specially tpaaned `nd were when one year later to

were specially tpaaned `nd were whan one xear later to see

were specially tpaaned `nd were when one year later to see that this

were specially tpaaned `nd were wonderful hospital was downgraded.

were specially tpaaned `nd were Therefore, Ukip will make local

were specially tpaaned `nd were health boards accountable to ynu

whilst at the same time halving the health boards accountable to ynu

numbers of managers nuibers od managdrs getting

Our policy in Ukip APPLAUSE

Our policy in Ukip is simple, the NHS is free

Our policy in Ukip is simple, the NHS as free at the

Our policy in Ukip is simple, the NHS is free at the point of

Our policy in Ukip is simple, the and that is non-negotiable. We

oppoce and that is non-negotiable. We

oppose T-tip. We want everyone and that is non-negotiable. We

oppose T-ti`. We want everyone who and that is non-negotiable. We

comes to live, work or visit to be and that is non-negotiable. We

in receipt of a medical insurance as in receipt of a ledical insurance as

a condition of eltry. APPLAUSE

Therefore, treatment is paid for APPLAUSE

the recipient and not the British taxpayer.

APPLAU E taxpayer.

And this insurance will save the UK taxpayer.

around ?2 billion per year. We hear the excuse that there is

around ?2 billion per year. We hear the excusd dhat there is no ond to

monitor this process of people the excusd dhat there is no ond to

receiving treatment from anywhere thay

receiving treatment from anywhere they choose to

receiving treatment from anywhere thay choose to come. However,

receiving treatment from anywhere they choose to come. However, the

receiving treatment from anywhere NHS is

receiving treatment from anywhere NHS as top-`eavy

receiving treatment from anywhere NHS is top-heavy on management

receiving treatment from anywhere NHS as top-`eavy on management and

receiving treatment from anywhere perhaps it could be suggested that

this is the area responsible for monidorinf

this is the area responsible for monitoring and not

this is the area responsible for molidorinf and nnt the `lready

heavily burdened nurses and doctors. APPLAUSE

heavily burdened nurses and doctors. Cancer drugs are not

heavily burdened nurses and doctors. Calcer drugc are not alwaqs

Cancer drugs are not always available in Wales but they are in

available in ales but they are in England. Why? Therefore, patients

available in ales but they are in going across from Wales to England

should not have the added burden of tha

should not have the added burden of the Cf

should not have the added burden of the Sf earn Bridge tolls when they

repubn the Sf earn Bridge tolls when they

return and ge the Sf earn Bridge tolls when they

return and we in Ukip would the Sf earn Bridge tolls when they

incorporate with our policies the incobporate with our policies the

abolition of tolls to encourage people to come and go as they

people to come ald go ar they like. - Severn.

APPLAUSE Tha

APPLAUSE The Labour Government in

Tha Labour Goverlment in the Assembly have a habit of blaming

Assembly hafe a habit of blaming the Westminster Government for lack

Westminster Govepnment for lack of funding and

fulding and the Bonserv`taves retaliate by blaming Labour for

fulding and the Bonserv`taves mismanagement of t`e budget.

Suddenly a game emerges between two with neither accepting

responsibility. The two with neither accepting

responsibhlity. The people Caufht two with neither accepting

right in the middle of this game two with neither accepting

are, of course, the patients, two with neither accepting

sick and the vulnerable in society. Ukip believes it is the local

councils who should lead in economic Ukip believes it is the local

development as Ukip believes it is the local

detelopment as theq unddrstand the detelopmelt as theq unddrstand the

needs of detelopmelt as theq unddrstand the

needc of these apeas detelopmelt as theq unddrstand the

needs of these areas better than the neadc of these apeas better th`n the

Cardiff Bay establishment neadc of these apeas better th`n the

Capdaff Bay establashment and we Cardiff Bay establishment and we

would therefore give them the power and dhe mnney

and the money to fulfil the nececsary

and the money to fulfil the necessary needs. I have a message

for both Carwyn necessary needs. I have a message

for both Babwyn Hones necessary needs. I have a message

for both Carwyn Jones and David necessary needs. I have a message

Cameron and it's simple - grow up! APPLAUSE

Neit`er APPLAUSE

Neither of you APPLAUSE

Neit`er of qou ape children and APPLAUSE

people's lives are at risc APPLAUSE

people's lives are at risk and APPLAUSE

people's lives are at risc and we APPLAUSE

depend on you to provide stability depend on you to providd stability

in the NHS in both Wales and the UK. in t`e NHS an both Wales and the UK.

On behalf of the people of Wales, I in t`e NHS an both Wales and the UK.

urge these two in t`e NHS an both Wales and the UK.

urge thesd dwo p`rties to put in t`e NHS an both Wales and the UK.

urge these two parties to put aside urge thesd dwo p`rties to put `side

their loathing urge thesd dwo p`rties to put `side

theib loathang od urge thesd dwo p`rties to put `side

their loathing of each other along urge thesd dwo p`rties to put `side

with their political urge thesd dwo p`rties to put `side

accept blame where it's right to do so( anstill

accept blame where it's right to do so, instill confidence in doctors,

accept blame where it's right to do nurses and patients, respect the

nupses and `atielts, respect the British

nupses and `atielts, respect the Britash taxpayer w`o,

nupses and `atielts, respect the British taxpayer who, after all,

nupses and `atielts, respect the funds the NHS. Ensure our sick and

nupses and `atielts, respect the vulnerable receive the

nupses and `atielts, respect the they require. Work collaboratively

wiph they require. Work collaboratively

with all ot`er p`rties they require. Work collaboratively

with all other parties for the they require. Work collaboratively

benefit of Wales and belefit od Gales and our people.

When we achieve these factors and belefit od Gales and our people.

these points, only then can we these poiltc, only then can we

regain the respect for the NHS and these poiltc, only then can we

its workforce and have an NHS that once again, ladies and gentlemen, is

its workforce and have an NHS that the envy of the world. Thank you.

tha envy nf the vorld. Thank ynu. APPLAUSE

tha envy nf the vorld. Thank ynu. That was Caroline

tha envy nf the vorld. Thank ynu. That was Babolind Bones

tha envy nf the vorld. Thank ynu. That was Caroline Jones with her

criticism of the Welsh NHS. That was Caroline Jones with her

could we go back to what we heard a That was Caroline Jones with her

while ago from Paul and his guests. That was Caroline Jones with her

This Ukip selection debacle in That was Caroline Jones with her

Wales, trying to select people to represent the party

Wales, trying to select people to represent the paptq on

Wales, trying to select people to list. We heard from Alexandra

Wales, trying to select people to Phillips and Llr Powell

Wales, trying to select people to hoping to win

Wales, trying to select people to hoping to wan a place and

Wales, trying to select people to hoping to win a place and from what

hoping to wan a place and from what they were saying it's water off a

hoping to wan a place and from what duck's back to them. Will

duck's babk to them. Will it h`rm Ukip or is dhere

duck's babk to them. Will it h`rm Ukip or is there a certain type of

Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of person who will vote Ukip come what

Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of may, even though there might be

Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of weeks of negative headlines? I

Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of think,

Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of thinc, firsd of

Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of think, first of all, it is the case

Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of that in the Assembly elections,

Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of generally, when it comes to

Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of regional vote people are voting

Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of the party. They're not voting for

tha the party. They're not voting for

the candidate. So it's the party. They're not voting for

different from being the party. They're not voting for

didferent from being very the party. They're not voting for

different from being very late the party. They're not voting for

People vote party, rather than people. Having said

People vote party, rather than people. Havang said that, this sort

people. Having said that, this sort of argument is debilitating. They've

people. Having said that, this sort lost some very good people from

lost some very gnod people from their point of view, people who were

lost some very gnod people from important in the party, people who

worked hard for the party. important in the party, people who

gone. That's damaging. gole. hat'c dam`gang. @lso, it

means that gole. hat'c dam`gang. @lso, it

meanc that there have been gole. hat'c dam`gang. @lso, it

means that there have been continual gole. hat'c dam`gang. @lso, it

stories in the press about this ongoang

stories in the press about this ongoing row. Does that make much

stories in the press about this difference? Does it cut through to

didference? Does it cut t`rough to the Welsh public? Probably not to a

didference? Does it cut t`rough to lot of voters. A lot of people won't

lot of votebs. A lot of people won't even have read about this, those

even have read a`out thhs, those who have read about it will

even have read a`out thhs, those who hate read about ht will think, you

even have read a`out thhs, those who know, this goes on in all parties,

even have read a`out thhs, those who it won't affect how they're going

even have read a`out thhs, those who vote. But, you know, it does typify

a problem that Ukip seems to have vote. But, you know, it does typify

difficulty going that extra step to becoming a fully mature, functioning

difficulty going that extra step to political force. There are people in

difficulty going that extra step to the party who privately say that

coiec the party who privately say that

comes from dhe the party who privately say that

comes from the top down. That it's becaese