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What has been going on while I have been gone?

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Wonderful to be at the University of Chicago.

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Wonderful to be on the South side of Chicago.

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CHEERING And wonderful to be with these young

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What I want to do is just maybe speak very briefly at the

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Then, I want to spend most of the time we

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are together hearing from these remarkable young people.

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Who are I thinnk representative of some

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amazing young people in the audience as well.

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I was telling these guys that it was a little over 30 years

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I had gotten out of college filled with idealism and

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absolutely certain that, somehow, I was going to change the world.

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Or where or what I was going to be doing.

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And so I worked first to pay off some student loans.

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And then I went to work at the city colleges of New York on the

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Harlem campus with some student organising.

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Then there were a group of churches out on the south side.

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Who had come together, try to deal with the steel plants that had

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And the economic devastation that had been taking place.

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But also the racial tensions and turnover

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They had formed an organisation and hired me as what

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I did not really know what that meant.

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For the next three years, I lived here in Hyde Park,

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but I worked further South in communities like

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Roseland and Auburn Gresham and Altgeld Gardens.

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Many of which had changed rapidly from

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Full of wonderful people who were proud of their communities,

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proud of the steps they had taken to try and move

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But were also worried about their futures because,

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in some cases, their kids were not doing as well as they had.

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In some cases, these communities have been badly

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The distribution of city services were unequal.

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For three years, I tried to do something

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I am the first to acknowledge that I did not the world afire.

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Nor did I transform these communities in any significant way,

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This community gave me a lot more than I was able

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Because this community taught me that ordinary

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people, when working together, can do extraordinary things.

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This community taught me that everybody

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This experience taught me that, beneath the surface

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differences of people, that there were common

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Aspirations. Common values.

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That stitched us together as Americans.

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And asylum, even though after three years I left for law school, the

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lessons that had been taught to me here as organiser are ones that

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stayed with me. And effectively gave me the foundation for my subsequent

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political career and the themes that I would talk about as a state

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legislator and a US senator and ultimately as president of the

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United States. I tell you that history because, on the back and now

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of my presidency, now that it is completed, I am spending a lot of

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time thinking about what is the most important thing I can do from next

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job? LAUGHTER

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And what I am convinced of is that, although there are all kinds of

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issues I care about, that I intend to work on, the single most

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important thing I can do is to help in any way I can prepare the next

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generation of leadership to take up the batten and to take their own

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crack at changing the world. Because the one thing that I am absolutely

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convinced of is that, yes, we confront a whole range of challenges

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from economic and equality, lack of opportunity, criminal justice system

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that too often is skewed in ways that are not productive, to climate

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change to issues related to violence. All those problems are

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serious, daunting, but not insoluble. What is preventing us

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from tackling them and making more progress really has to do with our

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politics and our civic life. It has to do with the fact that because of

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things like political gerrymandering, our parties have

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moved further and further apart and it is harder to find common ground.

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Because of money in politics. Special interests dominates the

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debates in Washington. Anyways that do not match up with what the broad

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majority of Americans feel. Because of changes in the media. We now have

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a situation which everyone is listening to people who already

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agree with them. And are further reinforcing their own realities. To

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the neglect of a common reality that allows us to have a healthy debate

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and try to find common ground and actually move solutions forward. And

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so, when I said in 2004 that there were no red states or those days,

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they are the United States, that was an aspirational, it -- red states of

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blue states. I still believe when you talk to individuals one on one,

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there is a lot more that people have in common that divides them. -- than

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divides them. But it is not as true in politics as civic life. Maybe

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people are not as involved, they get cynical and give up. As a

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consequence, we have some of the lowest voting rates of any advanced

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democracy. Low participation rates translate into a further gap between

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who is governing us and what we believe. The only folks who can

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solve that problem and the next Generation, young people. I have

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been encouraged everywhere I go in the United States and around the

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world to see how sharp and astute and tolerant and thoughtful and

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entrepreneurial our young people are. There are lots more

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sophisticated than I was at their age. The question becomes, what are

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the ways in which we can create pathways for them to take

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leadership, for them to get involved? Other ways we can knock

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down some of the barriers discouraging young people? About a

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life of service. If there are, I want to work with them to not down

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those barriers. To get this next-generation to accelerate their

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move towards leadership. If that happens, I think we will be just

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fine. I end up being incredibly optimistic. So with that, what I

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would like to do is to have our panellists here today, each tell us

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a little about themselves, and I have asked them ahead of time, I

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gave them the question ahead of time, to describe from the what it

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is they see among their peers that they think discourages voting,

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participation, paying attention to some of the issues and getting

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involved. Do they have immediate suggestions of a kinds of things

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that would get young people more involved and engaged and discover

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their voices? Once we have gone through the entire panel, we will

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open it up and see how it works. Hopefully, it will be interesting! I

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will find it interesting, hopefully you will. We will start with

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Chelsea. Good morning everyone. It is an honour to be here with you. I

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am a senior at University, I have studied leadership qualities. I have

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been involved on campus. I am looking forward to graduating in

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less than two weeks and my masters. My passion for working with college

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students stems from a community and activist. And understanding that the

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transformative time is an opportunity for students to learn

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about important issues and find their voice. Understanding we cannot

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get discouraged when something does not go our way immediately but also

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working towards the common cold. Fantastic. OK.

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APPLAUSE Good morning. I grew up in

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Milwaukee. I am a US Army veteran, majoring in sociology at University.

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Currently, I am a research assistant. Collaborative research

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projects, we have worked on landlord tenant issues, youth leadership

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programmes. We are working on a project about the date labour market

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in Chicago. It is a pleasure, Mr President. I am taking it. I was

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raised on the south side of Chicago in a low income household, graduated

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valedictorian and in the top ten. Broncos in the House. Number one

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from Chicago State University with my bachelors in chemistry. And

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graduated a second time with my doctorate in pharmacy.

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APPLAUSE I have a community pharmacy manager

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on the south side of Chicago for the three years. I am also author of ten

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tactics to tackle spending, the guide to elementary school, as

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school and undergraduate success. You can see where they have merely

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follow! I have been involved in civic engagement and civic life

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through the Institute of politics here at the University which has

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been a blessing and a fantastic resource to all of us. The summer

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after my first year here they gave stipends, I think the number was 16

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of us going to Des Moines for the summer of 2015 to work with press

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agencies or campaigns. That was eye opening in terms of having to

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campaign directly and how far you can move the needle by moving one

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vote in the caucus. I have also been involved on campus with student

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government and College Republicans. APPLAUSE

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Hello everyone, I am the baby of the panel. I am currently a senior at

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Kenwood Academy high school. CHEERING

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And throughout my high school career I have been involved in numerous

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student led organisations, multiple sports teams etc and outside of high

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school I have been involved in a lot of community-based organisations to

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volunteer my time with the youth as well. In the fall I will be

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attending college in Dallas, Texas with multiple scholarships to my

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name and I am also an entrepreneur. I will say, with my own clothing

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line. OK, all right. Peace and blessings everyone. I am living on

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the north-west side of Chicago, I arrived as a proud immigrant around

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the age of 14 with my mum and sister from India. I attended public

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schools and went to the University of Illinois, Chicago. Boil for my

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undergraduate studies and for my masters in planning and policy.

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After graduating I did become an organiser with somebody in the

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audience I want to point out, and mentor of mine. That experience led

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me to run for office and most recently now I work for new America,

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I am the deputy director here in Chicago where we do what we are

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doing today, infusing new ideas and voices into public policy

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conversation so I am really looking forward to that. Excellent. All

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right. So as you can see we have an extraordinary group here. Sharp

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young people. But you would also notice the kind of avoided my

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question! But that's good because it sets up the next segment. Look... In

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the presidential election you have maybe half of your peers voting. In

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mid-term elections about a third of your peers vote. I suspect that if

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you ask a lot of young people about a wide range of issues, regardless

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of where they sit ideological ideological way, they will say they

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are concerned about the economy and foreign policy and this or that. But

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a lot of them feel as if their involvement would not make a

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difference. It's not worth their time. And in fact, they are

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discouraged and feel disempowered. So all of you have already shown

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yourselves to be willing to get out there and be involved. To make a

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difference. I am curious as to what it is you think prompted you get

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involved in some fashion. And when you talk to your friends, what is it

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you think that is preventing them from doing so which might make a

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difference? We don't have to go in order, so if anybody wants to start,

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I like that a new! Although I am in high school a lot of my peers, I am

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a senior so of course some of my peers were able to double this year

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but overall I am grateful to take courses at Kenwood Academy high

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school that involve political science, we take African-American

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studies except job but not a lot of schools have that opportunity. So I

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would say awareness is something that holds a lot of our youth back

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from getting involved. Because I am privileged and therefore I step up

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and I encourage others to get involved and to have a voice. But I

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think the youth feel like they don't have a voice. So that plays a huge

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factor as to why the results are the way they are if that makes sense? It

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makes a lot of sense, do you think that as you were coming up, social

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studies, civic education, what kids are getting in the classroom, would

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make a difference? Do you think it would make more of a difference if

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young people had the opportunities to volunteer with organisations, to

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engage in community service? What is it you think would make the biggest

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difference in young people saying you know what, if I volunteer for

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this organisation I might make a difference in my community? Or if

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either to spit on this issue? Somebody might hear my voice, what

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do you think would be most effective? I feel like in order to

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encourage the youth it involves having a strong support system

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behind it to bring the youth up. For instance, in school, we are taught

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social studies but we tend to focus on mathematics, science, English,

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because that's what we are always brought up on because of tests,

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exams, etc. So social studies and civic education is pushed to the

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side. So I feel like it should be encouraged in a school system

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because the majority of our youth are in school of course. And then

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from there build outside programmes. From there, yeah... Come on. I

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agree. I also went to Kenwood, it was the start of me getting my foot

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in the door to want to expand and to outside things. Also funding

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after-school programmes and summer programmes because I had to- three

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jobs ever since eighth grade, every summer. Because first of all you

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make money, so... So that was the first thing but also it helped my

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resume, helped me get my feet wet to allow me to see different

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opportunities, see if I liked being a councillor, if I wanted to be a

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cheerleading coach or a tutor. Trying different things every summer

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helped me hone in on what I wanted to do with the rest of my life.

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After-school programmes as well, the funding for that helps keep the kids

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off the street, hopefully in Chicago we will have less violence as they

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will have something to do and you are enriching their lives in school

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and after school and also in the summer. I'm

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I'm sorry, did you work in the Bronx during the summer, what prompted you

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to first of all, describe the experience was and then give us a

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sense of what inspired you to do something like that. I have been

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involved in an alternative break and merging programme which sends

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students on trips over spring break and winter break. Spring Break of my

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junior year of college I was in the South Bronx working with a group at

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an elementary school. We took ten students and we were there to enrich

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the students lives. What is so unique about this programme is we

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understand the privilege we have to be welcomed into these communities.

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We are not there to support them, we are supporting them but we are there

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to learn from them and understand the experiences they are having. To

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understand just how wonderful so many of these young kids are. I

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remember the principal at Immaculate Conception which is the school we

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were at coming up to us and saying I hope you realise this is the only

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weak eyed of the year the students get to finger paint because it's too

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messy with just one teacher. It took a lot of us being there to let them

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do that. It shows the impact young people can have in these

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communities. You're going to say something and obviously your service

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in the military is an example of public service that thankfully

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everyone now appreciates, that wasn't always the case. But what I

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discovered was once our veteran 's take of the uniform, leave the

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service, sometimes people forget how much talent is there and the need to

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tap into the amazing young people that have served in our military so

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that they can work in the community and continue the leadership they

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have shown while they were in the military. You have been able to make

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that transition but talk a little bit about your mindset both when you

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went into the military and after you left, how did that change your

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perception in terms of your responsibilities to your community

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and how you might be able to make a difference? When I joined the

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military I joined six months out of high school. I was working

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full-time, I was not in school or college, being in college is a big

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deal and graduating is an even bigger deal where I come from. But

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it is about graduating high school, getting a job, stuff like that. I

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was in the military and I realise there is so much more to that. And

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that I am being afforded this wonderful opportunity to engage with

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so many different people from all over the country. Have so many

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different views but we all share the same goal. And I realised that if I

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wanted to make a larger contribution I was going to have to go to school

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and so that's what I did. I served my initial contract and received an

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honourable discharge in March 2014 and moved to Chicago in June. I was

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in Roosevelt by August. I did not do it by myself, when I got out the

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military I was part of a programme called veteran 's upward bound. It's

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a programme perfections that need to brush up on their academic skills

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before they enter college. And being a part of that literally saved me

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taking extra courses, remedial courses. I benefited immensely from

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that. And I was fortunate enough to get a research assistant position at

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Roosevelt and that really, that really got me going. I was working

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with different projects, youth, landlords, it was amazing because

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these are regular folks. That's something I definitely wanted to get

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involved in. To answer your question about what I think is preventing the

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youth, I think we need to connect personal problems with public

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issues. I feel like sometimes, you are working two jobs and cannot

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afford daycare, it's not because you are lazy. So if we can establish a

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connection which demonstrates that connection, I am big on collecting

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data and numbers, 80% of people are experiencing this in your community

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for example and you don't know it. You don't see it but here is a

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number, this is the fact. I believe that a huge thing we can do to help

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them. You are making a terrific point, one of the things I learned

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when I was organising, and this is true for I think a lot of young

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would-be do-gooders, you show up in a neighbourhood and your initial

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instinct is to tell people what they should be interested in. Instead of

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spending the first six months listening and finding out what they

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actually are interested in. And then connecting... APPLAUSE

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Connecting their immediate needs to the policies that are having

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influence on those areas of concern. And the more that you can make

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concrete for people, the fact that the reason there are not enough

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after-school programmes is not just because they are impossible to set

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up but have to do with budgets. Here are the people who are making the

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decisions about the budgets. And the reason there is a lack of childcare

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is not because, you know, you are the only single mum who need

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childcare, everybody needs childcare. But there are not enough

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facilities in place with trained childcare providers and this is what

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a change in public policy could do to provide everybody support. That's

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when you start bringing people together and their voices are

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amplified. Because what is certainly true is that one voice by itself

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rarely changes something. Two voices have a better shot. 20 voices, OK,

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we are getting somewhere. It begins with the

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listening process. So people feel like they are being

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heard at the outset. Were you someone always interested

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in politics generally, or is this something that

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came to you? In a sense, you have been active

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in College Republicans. One, do you feel as if on college

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campuses sometimes you are not heard I think there is certainly

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a perception sometimes among young people who are on the more

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conservative end of the spectrum that colleges are a bastion

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of political correctness. Also, have you found ways

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in which you can connect and have a conversation

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with the college Democrat and the person who has a different

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point of view so that we can encourage better conversations

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and better understanding I think, being interested in

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politics, I don't know that I came My mother was involved

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in the PTA when I was a child. The PTA is a lot

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of work, you know. And think the message

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something like that would send, She did that because the

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educational system, more broadly fostered in the town,

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was important to her and something I think, in eighth grade,

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which was your first election, At the beginning of the year picked

:31:37.:31:54.

a campaign to follow Each week, we did a report

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for the teacher on how the candidate Polling information

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that we had accumulated. It was an interesting process and it

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taught us to care about the news at a time when maybe that was not

:32:43.:32:49.

something you went home and watched. Something that made you more

:32:50.:32:53.

aware of the issues. I was fortunate enough to go to

:32:54.:32:57.

high school in New Hampshire. It is just part of the whole ethos,

:32:58.:33:00.

every four years they care. That people care about

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what New Hampshire has to say. One of the things that is a shame

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in that process is that there is a group that is as active every

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four years because They are big in the

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towns they are from. You have people active every four

:33:34.:33:36.

years and are sort of gone You have some if you are brought up

:33:37.:33:42.

a certain way, you are brought up to believe that your opinion

:33:43.:33:48.

is going to count for something, then go

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on to do big things... I had a friend that I went to high

:33:52.:33:54.

school with, she has been She ran for an open seat.

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That is just how it goes up there. In terms of being involved

:33:58.:34:05.

in politics, I was fortunate enough to take a year between high

:34:06.:34:09.

school and college. I worked in Washington,

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DC at the Senate. That is an eye opening

:34:12.:34:13.

experience because it forces you to confront,

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in a real way, what You gain a lot of information

:34:18.:34:19.

very, very quickly. I am immensely grateful

:34:20.:34:22.

for the opportunity. After coming here, that

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changed my worldview. I thought I would come

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here and be an economist, like every first-year believes

:34:29.:34:30.

at some level here. And that, coupled

:34:31.:34:32.

with my time at the Institute of Politics, which was a good,

:34:33.:34:40.

structured force to show that there was many venues

:34:41.:34:43.

to engage civically. Let me explore things

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like campaigning in Iowa. As for being a Republican

:34:47.:34:50.

on a college campus, yesterday, NBC ran an article on their website

:34:51.:34:57.

and it did not say who we were, just the composition was one

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Republican, and the rest Maybe three people sent me

:35:01.:35:03.

the article and say, is it you? It depends on the setting

:35:04.:35:12.

whether it is something you are At the Institute of Politics,

:35:13.:35:28.

most people know at this point. In the beginning of 2016,

:35:29.:35:33.

caucus season going on, those of us who had been in Iowa

:35:34.:35:39.

and could do the caucus maths, The issue of the hot

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commodity in the room There were venues certainly

:35:45.:35:50.

when I would not have brought it up or would not have been particularly

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forthcoming with it. I think people suspected

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it, but I did not... I will leave that to the other

:35:57.:35:58.

student Government people I don't necessarily know

:35:59.:36:01.

what I was afraid of, but I think there is a sense that,

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if you harbour a view that does not jive with the majority view,

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that you can expect some level of ostracisation

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from certain people. You can expect people to assume

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the worst aspect of you based I don't think anyone sitting in this

:36:20.:36:26.

room agrees with their party on 100% I might be wrong, but if you raised

:36:27.:36:33.

a hand I can't see you. So I think being a Republican

:36:34.:36:42.

on a college campus is, Most people don't agree with you,

:36:43.:36:46.

and when you engage in the dorms and the dining halls with those

:36:47.:36:53.

people who are able to see you, the person, and you,

:36:54.:36:56.

the person with the political views, you are forced to know yourself well

:36:57.:36:58.

and do soul-searching well. And to understand why

:36:59.:37:01.

it is you think what you think. And what part of your past

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about what you believe now. I think the other thing is there is

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a significant empathy gap. Not just here but everywhere. I think most

:37:21.:37:27.

people have not had in their homes for dinner in a real weight someone

:37:28.:37:31.

who is significantly different from them, politically racially. We have

:37:32.:37:38.

cloistered ourselves. The liberal bastion of college campuses

:37:39.:37:44.

certainly can be true. I lucky year. The School is committed to accepting

:37:45.:37:53.

our thoughts. I think a broader societal problem, if you look at the

:37:54.:38:00.

county map of 2016, you had a lot of counties where it was over 80% of

:38:01.:38:04.

the vote and the reverse was true for the president now. There is not

:38:05.:38:09.

understanding. It is not just that we are reading different use, we do

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not each other any more. -- difference news. We require more

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civility I think. APPLAUSE

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A lot of problems with our politics that at home we blame politicians a

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lot for the failure of each of us to grasp each other well. Your mentor,

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Lugar, ... People could not stand to see their member bridge a gap on a

:38:56.:39:04.

human level. There is an empathy gap and people see politics in this

:39:05.:39:09.

generation and say, this is ugly, this is mainly, this is something

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you have pretty experienced people doing. And if the country is a ship

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and politicians are sellers, maybe at the ballot moves a degree either

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way. -- sailors and the vote moves a degree either way.

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You cannot really run a country where half of it hates the other.

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Somehow, we are going to have to find ways to bridge that with people

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who are not like us. On this page, other than me, you have run for

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office. I am the oldest. I know you last, but I did, too, once. Right

:39:57.:40:08.

here in this cutie. -- community. What prompted you to run for office,

:40:09.:40:12.

which is a different kind of engagement. What did you take from

:40:13.:40:19.

the experience? Digital discouraged, did you feel, OK, this was fine? Or

:40:20.:40:28.

if not fun, was it worth it? Would you encourage other young people to

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take their shot? For me, the first time I ever did something that is

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considered separately engaged. I could not vote until after the Iraq

:40:43.:40:48.

war had already started. The first time I thought of doing something

:40:49.:40:51.

for this country was protesting the Iraq war. I felt passionately we

:40:52.:40:56.

were in the wrong part of history there. I think you are also at that

:40:57.:41:02.

point. I agreed with you at the time. I could not vote but I felt at

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a lot of the time civic engagement in a sense gets stuck in the dynamic

:41:11.:41:18.

of voting, electoral engagement, does not always expand. We have to

:41:19.:41:24.

expand, the wager mother date. Or being on a board for nonprofit. --

:41:25.:41:35.

the way your mother date. -- the way your

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to directly answer the question around why I went from protesting to

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working at a nonprofit, organising, thinking electoral politics is one

:41:48.:41:53.

of the many routes I am going to engaging, for me that happened in

:41:54.:42:00.

2010. After organising I saw a lot of the jargon used against us as

:42:01.:42:04.

young people at that time, I did not understand. I went back to college

:42:05.:42:09.

to understand public policy language. When I rang, my last and

:42:10.:42:21.

is Patel, not a lot of Patels in office. There are a lot more Patels

:42:22.:42:41.

men Obamas. I had a joke, but I am not going to. I do not want to get

:42:42.:42:49.

stuck in this two party language. But there is a lot of different cult

:42:50.:42:53.

of personalities and politics that people get drawn to. Can't really go

:42:54.:43:00.

beyond the questions you are allowed to ask within. I wanted to protest,

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run for office, run a small business, do the organising, figure

:43:07.:43:11.

out what is the most effective way that I want to live my life, be

:43:12.:43:15.

happy, and inspire a whole generation of folks who look like

:43:16.:43:19.

me, or South Asian immigrants or Muslim background. I want people to

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feel like they can do anything. Also, Illinois has establishment

:43:27.:43:32.

politics that is really old. Not all day and age, but I thinking. A

:43:33.:43:38.

monopoly of power, money, ideas that only come from few families or

:43:39.:43:46.

sometimes a few zip codes. I want to say that is not how we should move

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forward. APPLAUSE

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A couple of thoughts based on some of the things that folks have said.

:43:56.:44:03.

First of all, you say, Horatio, there are a lot of different ways to

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engage being important. Sometimes, people think, if you are not running

:44:12.:44:15.

for office, or it is not election day, there is no other ways of

:44:16.:44:24.

getting involved. The parent teacher Association is a perfect example of

:44:25.:44:25.

what we want to encourage. There are writers and social

:44:26.:44:33.

thinkers out there who would argue that one of the problems we have

:44:34.:44:38.

with politics right now is that the mediating institutions, the unions,

:44:39.:44:48.

the churches, the PTA groups, the Rotary Club, a lot of the voluntary

:44:49.:44:55.

organisations that used to exist, sororities and fraternities, that

:44:56.:45:01.

used to bring people together to then work on issues, that those have

:45:02.:45:09.

declined. And the statistics show that people are less likely to be

:45:10.:45:13.

involved with various organisations in the community than they used to

:45:14.:45:19.

be. And what that means is then people don't have some of the same

:45:20.:45:25.

habits of being together on a common project. We become a more

:45:26.:45:36.

individualistic society and that has spill-over effects when it comes to

:45:37.:45:43.

political participation and empathy because you are interacting with

:45:44.:45:50.

your people on a regular basis. The second thing is how to do with how

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we get information so I want to see what people thank. I think a lot of

:45:55.:46:01.

us who have been in politics for olive oil to see a change from 20

:46:02.:46:10.

years ago, certainly 30 years ago, where it used to be everybody kind

:46:11.:46:14.

of had the same information and we had different opinions about it but

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there was a comment baseline of facts. And that the Internet in some

:46:19.:46:26.

ways has accelerated this sense of people having entirely separate

:46:27.:46:33.

conversations. And if this generation is getting all of its

:46:34.:46:39.

information through its phones then you don't have to confront people

:46:40.:46:44.

who have different opinions or different experience or different

:46:45.:46:50.

outlook. If you are liberal then you are on MSNBC, if you are

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conservative you are on Fox News. You read the Wall Street Journal or

:46:58.:47:01.

you read the New York Times. Whatever your choices are. And maybe

:47:02.:47:05.

you are just watching cat videos, which is fine. LAUGHTER

:47:06.:47:16.

So one question I have for all of you is how do you guys get your

:47:17.:47:20.

information about the news and what's happening out there and are

:47:21.:47:28.

the ways in which you think we could do a better job of creating a common

:47:29.:47:39.

conversation now you have 600 cable stations and all these different

:47:40.:47:45.

news outlets that basically are offering one set of opinions. If

:47:46.:47:51.

there are two sets of opinions they are just yelling at each other so

:47:52.:47:55.

you do not get the sense there is conversation going on. And the

:47:56.:48:00.

Internet is worse. It's become more and more polarised. How much do you

:48:01.:48:03.

think that affect how people think about issues and are other ways that

:48:04.:48:09.

that could be changed given that most of your information and

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certainly for the younger people coming up behind you, even more,

:48:14.:48:19.

they are getting their information primarily off their phones. I think

:48:20.:48:27.

social media has its pros and cons. When it comes to getting information

:48:28.:48:30.

about what is going on in the world it is way faster on social media

:48:31.:48:35.

than it is on a newscast but on the other hand it can be the downfall

:48:36.:48:39.

because what if you're passing the wrong information? Or the

:48:40.:48:42.

information is not presented in the way it should be? So that causes a

:48:43.:48:47.

clash in our generation and I think it should go back to the old school.

:48:48.:48:54.

I think phones, social media, should be eliminated because, not, wait

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wait wait, I think I should rephrase myself! I think when it comes to

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politics and important information that can influence younger

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generations it should be organic. Politicians should actually reach

:49:14.:49:18.

out and physically talked to the community so there cannot be any

:49:19.:49:22.

misconception on the information being passed because social media,

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going on to Twitter or Facebook, anybody can hack your social media

:49:28.:49:32.

page which causes problems. To actually go out to the community,

:49:33.:49:36.

the community will feel more welcome and and I think that goes back to

:49:37.:49:41.

actually getting involved because to have somebody shake your hand and

:49:42.:49:47.

look at you and talk to you is more heartfelt feeling, to actually

:49:48.:49:50.

listen to what that person has to say. Is interesting. One of the

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other things you bring up and you have said what I am thinking, is

:49:56.:50:00.

going back to the basics and having in person conversations. One of the

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things I see as most important is people being able to listen and

:50:05.:50:08.

understand rather than listening to respond. There does not have to be

:50:09.:50:12.

an immediate response. I learned that in marriage by the way!

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LAUGHTER Just a tip for you young people.

:50:18.:50:24.

Listening to understand rather than listening to respond. That will save

:50:25.:50:28.

you a lot of heartache and grief. Sorry. LAUGHTER

:50:29.:50:34.

Just a little tip. I think it's something our generation, we find it

:50:35.:50:40.

easier to hide behind Facebook and Twitter and Instagram, being able to

:50:41.:50:45.

have in-person conversations and listen to the other side is the only

:50:46.:50:48.

way we are going to get anything done. I think it's important to

:50:49.:50:55.

engage with the leaders of that community and instead of going in

:50:56.:51:00.

there and thinking because it affects you in another city doesn't

:51:01.:51:05.

mean it's going to be the same dynamics in this neighbourhood. I

:51:06.:51:09.

think it's important to understand that. I want to help but I need to

:51:10.:51:14.

be humble and listen to people that have lived through it and have more

:51:15.:51:20.

of a clear understanding of what is needed. Dialogue is important,

:51:21.:51:26.

deliberation is important. You need to critically analyse people's

:51:27.:51:31.

views. Then you can create a plan off of that. I definitely think, as

:51:32.:51:38.

far as like, where you get your news from, diversity is important. Not

:51:39.:51:46.

every news station that leans Republican is horrible, it's nice,

:51:47.:51:49.

you need to understand how the other side banks. -- how the other side

:51:50.:51:56.

thinks. But I really believe that not shunning people who have

:51:57.:52:00.

different views from you, recognising that you do want to help

:52:01.:52:05.

but respecting the fact that there are people who have been here longer

:52:06.:52:08.

than you that have lived through these issues and you need to work

:52:09.:52:11.

with them instead of outsourcing help. Any other thoughts? I think,

:52:12.:52:24.

there was an interesting, it was either in the Journal or the Times

:52:25.:52:27.

shortly before the election that showed they made a generic

:52:28.:52:32.

Republican Facebook page and generic Democratic Facebook page and they

:52:33.:52:34.

showed you the news articles which would be in the feed. And the facts

:52:35.:52:45.

of the case, we now live, there are rumours we do not have fact any more

:52:46.:52:51.

in society, I am in a winger sticks class called truth now and they

:52:52.:52:58.

played us a documentary with the man who was a defence attorney in the

:52:59.:53:03.

Bronx during the 70s. He will tell you that if you ask somebody what

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shape the table is you can get three answers. If you are sitting at the

:53:08.:53:12.

table it's a rectangle, if you are underneath that it's the ceiling and

:53:13.:53:14.

if you are looking at it from the side it's got a rounded edge so it's

:53:15.:53:19.

a semicircle. I think that's basically where we are with the

:53:20.:53:25.

news. I don't know if the coverage where of the same issues that people

:53:26.:53:31.

would find factual difference anyway. I think part of the problem

:53:32.:53:35.

is we don't agree on what the issues are that are pressing and facing the

:53:36.:53:41.

country. I don't know how you get there but I don't think the national

:53:42.:53:45.

dialogue messily starts online or in the press. I think it starts

:53:46.:53:52.

door-to-door. That's how people go about campaigning, in that right now

:53:53.:53:55.

it's easy to sort of know you have numbers if you can only get them to

:53:56.:53:59.

show up and there is no onus to work to get somebody else to turn out for

:54:00.:54:02.

you to persuade them your point of view is correct. Instead there is a

:54:03.:54:07.

broad incentive to spend millions of dollars on advertising and is seeing

:54:08.:54:12.

if my opponent is elected the apocalypse will a car, rivers or run

:54:13.:54:21.

red and Hawaii will sink. There has to be aligned to make all things

:54:22.:54:29.

happen. I think at all levels there has to be a conversation and people

:54:30.:54:32.

have to be willing to talk to each other again. Maybe that'll start in

:54:33.:54:36.

middle school where you see in a class who has different views and

:54:37.:54:41.

commit part of social studies time to have people talk to issues of the

:54:42.:54:44.

day and why they think what they think but we have to get back to a

:54:45.:54:48.

place where people talk to each other again. That's been a running

:54:49.:54:55.

theme. I will say this, the reason I was able to run for the United

:54:56.:55:03.

States Senate was because, in addition to my base here in Chicago

:55:04.:55:10.

I had spent a lot of time travelling around the state. And over time I

:55:11.:55:18.

got to know people in parts of Illinois that today would be

:55:19.:55:25.

considered red and I lucked out effectively that I was under the

:55:26.:55:31.

radar screen so political ads did not characterise me. So people would

:55:32.:55:35.

meet me, even though I am this Chicago lawyer from a liberal

:55:36.:55:44.

district with an Arab sounding name, but I would show up. And you would

:55:45.:55:51.

have a conversation. And you talk about their kids and basketball,

:55:52.:55:57.

what was happening on their jobs. People got a sense that my frames of

:55:58.:56:04.

reference and my values were not so different from theirs. And that gave

:56:05.:56:10.

me the ability to break through some of the assumptions that people might

:56:11.:56:17.

have otherwise had. And in some ways Iowa was the same way, I am

:56:18.:56:20.

travelling around the state as you know from having worked there, its

:56:21.:56:25.

retail politics. You're going door-to-door and talking to people.

:56:26.:56:30.

We did not have a huge amount of money particularly initially for TV

:56:31.:56:36.

ads so it was just meeting people. And that does change peoples

:56:37.:56:43.

assumptions. When they get a chance to know somebody directly. So part

:56:44.:56:47.

of what we are going to have to figure out is how do we create

:56:48.:56:56.

greater opportunities. That's true between red parts of the state and

:56:57.:57:00.

blue parts of the state. It is true even within the city of Chicago. I

:57:01.:57:08.

was, yesterday, with a group of young men who are part of a

:57:09.:57:17.

programme designed to give them opportunities and pathways away from

:57:18.:57:22.

violence and crime. These are some young people from 18-24, all were

:57:23.:57:33.

African-American except one who was Latino. Many of them already had

:57:34.:57:37.

prison records. And had done some pretty rough stuff. Several of whom

:57:38.:57:45.

had already been shot, in some cases multiple times. None of whom had

:57:46.:57:52.

grown up with fathers. Many of whom had effectively been orphaned when

:57:53.:57:58.

they were very young. So this would be the stereotypical profile of

:57:59.:58:06.

somebody who has a good likelihood of shooting or getting shot here in

:58:07.:58:11.

Chicago. Part of the violence. That has been plaguing the city. What was

:58:12.:58:17.

striking when you sat down with these guys was there young people.

:58:18.:58:26.

And if you had listened to them talking you would recognise them as

:58:27.:58:31.

not that different from any other young man, 18-24. What was different

:58:32.:58:39.

was the circumstances. They had grown up in some cases in foster

:58:40.:58:47.

care or other mother was a drug addict and they have been neglected.

:58:48.:58:55.

So even within the city boundaries, a lot of times we will characterise

:58:56.:59:03.

our neighbours, as something entirely different than us. That we

:59:04.:59:08.

cannot understand that we are afraid of we cannot communicate with and

:59:09.:59:13.

political rhetoric reinforces that. And they need to be heard as well

:59:14.:59:21.

because if the six of you had been in that conversation you would have

:59:22.:59:26.

come away not saying these are some thugs or super predators that I

:59:27.:59:33.

cannot relate to, you would actually say if I had gone through what they

:59:34.:59:38.

went through I'm not sure how things would have worked out for me either.

:59:39.:59:44.

And that creation of empathy then promises a different kind of civic

:59:45.:59:52.

response and political response from the one we so often have. So that

:59:53.:59:56.

hearing other people I think is vital and the question is are other

:59:57.:59:58.

ways in which we can create opportunities to do that for more

:59:59.:00:07.

young people earlier on? Before the lines and divisions start hardening.

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