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This is Business Live from the BBC with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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America exports gas for the first time,

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but, as prices slump, is it really financially viable?

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Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday 12th January.

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It is a landmark moment for America, but comes as oil prices

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China makes a move on Hollywood -

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China's richest man splashes $3.5 billion on a stake in the studio

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Here's how Europe opened after Japan's Nikkei slips to lowest

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close in nearly a year, as China's sell-off leaves it down

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We'll get the Inside Track on a big name in the alternative car industry

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- Tesla's Elon Musk tells the BBC all transport will eventually go

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He will tell us who he feels most in terms of competition.

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And we want to know what you think is the best technological invention

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Let us know - just use the hashtag #BBCBizLive.

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I hope you will say the best invention of the last 12 months is

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this programme! Let us know! Today marks a significant day

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for the world's energy markets. America has become a supplier,

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rather than consumer, It's the first time ever

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that it's exported gas. But the celebrations

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could be short-lived. Like oil, the price of gas has

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fallen sharply and is now worth only a third of what it was

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just two years ago. So while the venture

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is less financially viable than when it was originally

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imagined in 2011, it is Many estimates put the US

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as the third largest exporter in the world by the end

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of the decade. And what we're talking

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about is liquefied natural gas or LNG, and whilst it requires

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costly tanks to transport, once converted back into natural

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gas, it can be used for almost anything from cooking to heating

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or powering a factory. Giles Farrer is the research

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director for Global Gas and LNG How revolutionary is this? It is

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kind of a big deal for the world gas market. The US, it is going to

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change the way that LNG is sold traditionally. LNG is sold under

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long-term contracts from one country to another on prices linked to oil.

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The start of energy exports from the US can be sold flexibly, so anybody

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can buy it, and it is going to break down the mechanism of linking Gaster

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oil by introducing US gas prices to the world markets. What is being

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introduced today and in the days ahead is a drop in the ocean in

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terms of the world market, but many are saying in the future America

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could be a big player. Your thoughts? Currently global

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production is about 250 million tonnes a year, and over the next

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five years new production from Australia and the US is going to add

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about 50% to the world market. At the same time, what we are going to

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see, what we are already seeing, is faltering demand growth in Asia and

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a surplus of LNG supply in the market. Presumably that means gas

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prices will come down even further? Does that mean good news for the

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customer, those of us using gas all the time, seeking cheaper bills?

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Yes, it should do. What we are expecting to see is a lot of this

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excess LNG will end up in the European, north-west Europe and UK,

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where there is an abundance of infrastructure already built, so it

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will naturally go into this market. What that means is that you are

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going to have new gas competing with existing suppliers into the European

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market, so Norway and Russia. They are going to see competitive

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pressure, and we expect that to drive gas prices down. From many

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countries already under a lot of pressure, Australia is a big

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exporter of gas, brusher reeling from low prices, Australia battling

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with the Chinese economy slowing significantly and not consuming a

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lot of its commodities. For some of these countries, this is not great

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news at all, they are already facing quite difficult economic times? Our

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view is that gas prices in Europe are going to be about one third

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lower than they have been nevertheless to five years in the

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next five years. Gas prices in Asia the stock market are expected to

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come down significantly as well. We expect the revenues the big

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producers to come down a lot. Should be tough times ahead. Thank you so

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much for sharing your thoughts on that.

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Oil prices have fallen below $31 a barrel to new 12-year lows.

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Its fallen almost 20% since the beginning of the year.

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A slowdown in China has added fears of slowing consumption

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Irish drug-maker Shire has won its six-month battle to buy

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The deal is worth $32 billion and will put Shire in a strong

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position as it looks to develop vaccines for rare disease.

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Baxalta specialises in unusual blood conditions, cancers

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The world's biggest coffee chain, Starbucks, says it aims to open 500

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Starbucks aims to create 10,000 jobs in the country every year over

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the next four years as it continues to expand.

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The metals and mining firm Alcoa has announced a net loss of $500 million

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for the final quarter after incurring heavy costs to close

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The New York-based company has been cutting back on capacity as a result

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I feel like we are always mentioning companies, countries or

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organisations that are struggling with the price of commodities around

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the world. It is interesting, the aluminium

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producing subsidiary of Glencore filing for bankruptcy. All of this

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part of the restructuring that Glencore is having to go through to

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deal with that falling commodity price. That news just in, the

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aluminium producing subsidiary filing for bankruptcy.

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This story caught my eye, Murdoch to marry or, surely the most

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interesting announcement from a businessman today! -- Murdoch to

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married Jerry Hall. Rupert Murdoch, owner of News Corporation, has

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married the model Jerry all, who has not been married before but had a

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long relationship with Mick Jagger. Apparently they started courting in

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the Rugby World Cup... They came out in public.

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I love that they announced it in the Times.

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This is not an April fool, by the way, and January the 12th!

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Chances are you won't have heard of China's Dalian Wanda Group.

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Today it's confirmed a $3.5 billion deal to buy a controlling stake

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in Hollywood film studio Legendary Entertainment,

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the makers of Jurassic World and the Batman film The Dark Knight.

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Steve, why is this so significant? We have talked about many people not

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knowing this company or indeed knowing China's richest man but it

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is a significant stake? It is significant because it puts

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China right at the heart of movie-making. What you have got is

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big Chinese money buying a big Hollywood company, a maker of

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movies. At the moment, China is poised to become the biggest movie

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market in the world, a lot of people in Hollywood think that takings in

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China next year will exceed those in America. If you can make Hollywood

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films in a great big studio, perhaps the world biggest, being built in

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eastern China, you will then tap into that big market. You then raise

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the prospect of a global movie industry with films tailored for

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China and Chinese censorship, and Hollywood and Europe. It changes the

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way we think about movies. OK, good stuff, thanks very much.

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Just to look at some of the numbers, falls in Shanghai fuelled by ongoing

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worries over China's economy, taking its toll on the other main markets,

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the nick a down 2.71%. Shanker's market down about 15% so far this

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year, we're only halfway through the month and it has been a pretty

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dreadful time. The impact on commodities is all too clear, Brent

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Crude falling another 2.2% at $30 a barrel. In the UK, we will get an

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update on all sorts of things, including the manufacturing sector,

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expected to beat up about 0.1% after expected to beat up about 0.1% after

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a fall of zero point 5% in October. But the focus here will likely be

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on the retail sector with a string of updates on Christmas trading,

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not least supermarket chain Morrisons managing to reverse

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its downward spiral with a small rise in sales, and Debenhams doing

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much better than expected. We will talk about that and other

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more in a moment. What about Wall Street?

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Neda is in New York with the details on the trading day ahead.

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We get fourth-quarter earnings results for CSX, which has been hurt

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by steep declines in call, so investors will be interested to see

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their outlook on the mining industry. They will also be looking

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out for news on whether a possible merger could be on the news with

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Canadian Pacific after their bid to acquire CSX's closest competitor was

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rejected. We will see how optimistic small businesses are feeling when

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the confidence index for December is released. Marc fields will speak at

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an auto industry confidence in the trade -- in Detroit where he will

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give his projections for 2016. Joining us is Anne Richards,

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chief investment officer Nice to see you. Behind us we have

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got Germany and London but also the oil price, down another 2% today.

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Will it go below $30 per barrel? We are watching its every move at the

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moment. It feels like it will go lower from here, you have seen a

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number of forecasters radically talking as low as $20 oil. There is

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a lot going on behind the scenes. One of the things you can see in the

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background is that quite a lot of the oil producing countries have

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been in pegging themselves from the dollar, giving them a bit more

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scope, bit more slack, in order to manage the balance between cost and

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revenue. Costs are no longer dollar-denominated, which means they

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can cope with the oil price longer. They need to do everything they can,

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don't they? Countries like Nigeria, Angola, not the big players like

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Saudi Arabia but the other Opec members that are struggling,

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Venezuela? The smaller countries have, you mentioned Angola, that is

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an example, have begun to give themselves the slack. As long as the

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big producers like Saudi are pegged to the dollar they will feel the

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pain from this. The demand side has not picked up enough to cope with

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the increase in supply. We know there is limited storage capacity

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left out there now. We have not yet reached the bottom of this oil

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price. When we are looking at this state of the worst start to the year

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for a long time in the global markets, it is difficult to see what

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will get us out of that pessimism and fear that things will get worse

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before they get better. The Chinese central bank today

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pumping $12 billion into the markets, doing all they can as well

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but it seems to be lingering, the pessimism. The Chinese have got

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themselves hooked on this interventionist mantra, they are

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nervous about letting the market, the stock market, decide the level

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of the currency. Part of the intervention China has been doing is

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part of a long run strategy to become one of the IMF reserve

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currencies, in which case it needs to keep a relatively tight spread on

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the offshore market. You have got that intervention going on. But the

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other thing worth pointing out is that economic lead this is not a

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particularly bad start to the year. We have had a good data point from

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the US in terms of jobs data, we are seeing some sign of improvement once

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again coming through in Germany, so the macro environment is not what

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you would expect, so we might actually find it better once we get

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through this dispiriting period at the start of the year. That is very

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positive, we appreciate that! You will be back later with more to talk

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about, lots of stories in the press as ever.

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Some breaking news. News of an explosion in the Turkish city of

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Istanbul. Local media reports are saying several people have been

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injured. The blast happened in one of the city's main tourist

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districts. The area has been cordoned off by police. The cause of

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the explosion is not immediately known. As soon as we have more

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information about what's going on in Istanbul, we will update you, but

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that's something we're just hearing about at the BBC. Another line

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coming in to us. This is on the AFP News Agency, a strong explosion.

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This is in the tourist quarter near the church and the Blue Mosque. This

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copy saying several ambulances and the police are on the scene. There

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are pictures on the local TV channels. We will bring them to you

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as soon as we have them. A strong explosion reported in the tourist

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centre in Istanbul. Still to come,

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forecasting the future. We sit down with entrepreneur

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and innovator Elon Musk. Owning a car that is not

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self-driving in the future is like owning a horse.

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It's a big week for results in the UK grocery sector.

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Sainsbury's are out tomorrow, it's Tesco's turn on Thursday,

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but today Morrisons published its figures and they're

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The supermarket says like-for-like sales rose 0.2% in the nine

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Let's get more from Paul Thomas who is able to join us from our news

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floor. Paul, the share price is a big reaction, but when you look at

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the figures, it is a tiny weany move. Put it in prospective for us?

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It is a small move, but they have had a number of months and quarters

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of reporting sales in decline. So this is great progress and festive

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cheer for Morrisons and for Dave Potts, there is more work to do, but

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perhaps an indication that they are heading in the right direction with

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their recent work. It is a busy week for retailers, but the supermarkets

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seem to have been hit badly. Next were down and John Lewis bucking the

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trend doing reasonably well, but Marks Spencer's, a difficult time,

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it is hard to pick out the winners and the losers of the Christmas

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period? By the end of the week we will have a better idea. Indications

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are Morrisons was a surprise coming in at 0.2% increase. Likely to be an

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increase for Sainsbury's and like to be a drop for Tesco's. So what is

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Morrisons getting right that perhaps its rivals are not? I think they

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have focussed back on through David Potts' strategy, reducing costs at

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head office, more colleagues for the shop floor to improve the customer

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experience within the shop. There is a lot of work to do in terms of

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range and freshness, and a lot to do on marketing. They have a provenance

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with their fresh, but their own farms and vertical supply chain, and

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they could do more to drive that home, but getting the basics right,

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the customer journey and that's what helped them and that's what they

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need to focus on in the coming months and in the future.

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Paul Thomas, thank you. Shares up about 8%, up nearly 15 points so far

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this morning as a result of the figures. Lots more on the website.

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More detail and analysis, Sainsbury's to come next.

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Our top story, the US starts exporting gas with the first

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But with falling prices how significant will it be for consumers

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Now to a big name in field of innovation, a man known

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for increasingly making futuristic ideas a reality.

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Elon Musk is Chief Executive of Tesla Motors, a company that

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grabbed headlines after its all-electric sport luxury cars.

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His cars are also competing in the driverless space too,

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One is SpaceX, an aerospace company seeking not only to lower the cost

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of space travel, but also enable to colonisation of mars.

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His net worth is $12.4 billion, making him the 39th wealthiest

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Our technology correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones spoke to him

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exclusively and started by asking him, how common

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I think all transport will go fully electric. I see the value of Tesla

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as a catalyst. I think Tesla maybe when one looks back on it, it might

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accelerate that transition by a decade maybe, maybe more.

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Are you on the road to producing a model that far more people could

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aspire to own? Yes. The model three, that's the third part of our

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strategy which produce high volume, low-cost car and we expect to be in

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production with that at the end of next year. In order to have a

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substantial effect on transportation, we have to make the

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cars affordable. So I think the model three is extremely important

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as part of that strategy unless there is affordable car, we will as

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you alluded to earlier, only have a small impact on the world. So it

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needs, we need to make a car that most people can afford in order to

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have a really substantial impact. Do you see Apple building a car and

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that maybe being a threat to you? Well, I think, I would encourage

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more participation by whoever it is to create electric vehicles. It is

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quite hard to do. But I think companies like Apple will probably

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make a compelling electric car. It seems like the obvious thing to do.

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Are you betting that that's going to happen? Have you heard something? It

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is hard to hide when you have hired over 100 engineers to do it. So you

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think Apple will do it? Yes, do I. You have been a leader in autonomous

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driving. How far do you think that's going to go? I mean, I think, the

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two biggest revolutions in transport are electrification and autonomy.

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Those are the two biggest innovations since the moving

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production line. Autonomy is extremely important and I think in

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the long-term nobody will buy a car unless it is autonomous. In ten

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years time, what will I be driving? Will I be driving at all? Will I be

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pressing a button on an app and a car will drive up and take me where

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I want to? You will only drive if you want to drive. It will be like

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owning a car that is not self-driving in the long-term will

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be like owning a horse. You would own it and you would use it for

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sentimental reasons, but not for, you know, not for daily use really.

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Now, you're in three extraordinary industries. You are in electric

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cars, you're in rockets, and you're in solar energy. What unites you,

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what unites those three interests? Well, what I'm trying to do is to

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minimise future threats or take whatever action I can to ensure the

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future is good. I didn't expect these companies to succeed. I

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thought they would most likely fail, particularly Tesla and space X. At

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the beginning I thought SpaceX and Tesla had a 10% chance of success

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and I'm surprised to see that we're alive. It's great. I wasn't

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expecting that! You can hear more of that interview

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online. He was talking about what he believes are the greatest

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innovations over the last few decades, electrification being one.

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We asked you for your tweets on what you thought was the best invention

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over the past few years. Paul says, it is easy. Publicly accessible

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internet changed the world for him. Ozzy, said satellite TV because it

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means he can watch us on the programme! Well done. Another one,

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internet, followed by GPS changing the way we navigate.

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Anne is back. I think Segways. You have been on one? I have been on an

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off road Segway. You have got ones with chunky wheels. We want footage,

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please! Need to know basis. That might even

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top Rupert Murdoch's engagement news!

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China, an important market for Rolls-Royce, I imagine. China is an

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important market for Rolls-Royce, I imagine at one stage it was the most

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important market. It would be in the top three markets for it. But the,

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the interesting thing that you see going on here in China is the

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anticorruption drive and this desire to shy away from any kind of

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conspicuous consumption has come through in the Rolls-Royce sales,

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but happily for Rolls-Royce we are seeing in other parts of the world

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beginning to pick up, that potential slack that's out there. The Middle

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East is going well and places like South Korea also doing well. It is a

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great success story as a business, but you can see this pain in China

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coming through. Coming through for another company.

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Anne, thank you. More to talk about, but no time. We want to remind you

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of the breaking news of an explosion in the Turkish city of Istanbul.

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Local media reports say several people have been injured and there

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could be casualties. Hello there. Good morning, if you

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haven't yet stepped outside, well brace yourself it feels cold out

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there. A really cold wind particularly in western

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