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Hello this is business live, they are calling it the perfect storm,

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Lulu returns to government in Brazil.

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that's our top story on Thursday 17th March

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We'll be live in Sao Paolo to get the very latest on the developments

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in South America's largest economy - as fresh anti-Lulu protests erupt

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The Brazilian real plunged and share markets dived on the news.

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Storm clouds are gathering again over the global economic horizon -

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that's the warning coming from the US central Bank,

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add that to worries over a potential Trump presidency and a lacklustre UK

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economy - should we batten down the hatches!

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And we are an hour into the European trading day -

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the US dollar is weak - oil prices are on the rise

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We'll make sense of the latest moves.

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As we do more and more work on the move and online -

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we meet the boss of tech security firm Druva that says it can keep

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And as the cost of 3D printing falls to a new low -

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it's got all sorts of practical uses.

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We want to know - what would you 3d print?

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We start in Brazil - where President Dilma Rousseff

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is battling to save her government amid a deepening political

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Late Wednesday she confirmed her predecessor - former president

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Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva - will be returning to government.

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Critics say it's a move to shield him from corruption charges.

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Top of the list of problems -

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a huge corruption scandal involving state-owned oil giant Petrobras,

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President Rousseff is facing impeachment over the scandal.

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The economy shrank 3 point 8 percent last year -

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the biggest slump in a quarter of a century.

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At the same time consumer prices are soaring -

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And no surprise then that many Brazilian families are struggling

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with high levels of household debt - and rising interest rates have piled

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News of Lula's return caused sharp falls in Brazil's currency and stock

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markets, as investors fear he could raise public spending

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Daneil Gallas, our South America Business Correspondent joins us now

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Tensions really high where you are, not least, just explain this for us,

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a foam core that took place we think at some point between Lula and

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Elmer, just explain this for us. The crucial question, one of the many

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questions, the crucial question in this whole case, is whether Lula is

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being brought in to help out the government, get out of this mess, or

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is he just doing this to save himself in order to get some court

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privileges. Last night, a foam core that was tapped by the police, and

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it was revealed by a judge, it was saying, it was showing, that

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President Dilma Rousseff was talking about President Lula about a

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document, from before he became a minister. The president says that

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the document does not reveal anything but it was very explosive

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for everyone here, for the judge and for everyone that was some sort of

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evidence that Lula was doing this to save himself. We saw some protests,

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there was rioting Brazil and they were very spontaneous, people coming

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out of the streets at around about seven o'clock at night and things

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are very tense and today, Lula is going to be formalised as a

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minister. All of this means more uncertainty and unpredictability and

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it strikes me that it is the last thing that result need right now?

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Brazil is going through its worst economic crisis in the last 25

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years. It is one of the worst political crisis, the markets are

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very volatile right now, up until yesterday there was a lot of talk

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that was would take a sharp turn to the left, but yesterday, President

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Dilma Rousseff came out and said that the central bank is not going

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anywhere, the finance minister will stay where he is, and that the

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economy is not doing any major shifts from now on. She will want to

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approve a change in tax. First of all, you have to take care of the

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impeachment process, in about 45 days from now, she could actually be

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suspended from office if she's not sex full in -- if she's not

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successful in that. We saw those protests in the street, it seems

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that will not change? Yes they are very organised protests, of people

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who say, now we are seeing protests that are quite spontaneous and

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people coming out because they seem to be very angry especially with

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Lula and Dilma Rousseff. That is the tension that they will have too

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diffused right now and that is the popularity problem that they had to

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struggle with right now. Australia's unemployment rate fell

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unexpectedly last month according But - the numbers show a big

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DECREASE in the pool of available workers rather than a significant

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creation of new jobs. The Bank of England is expected

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to leave interest rates unchanged at a record low of 0.5 per cent

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when it meets later. Forecasts suggest there won't now be

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a rate rise until early 2017, which would mean eight years

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of record-low borrowing costs. Analysts will be watching to see

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if anyone on the committee will actually vote

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for a CUT in rates. Chinese telecoms giant ZTE

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is postponing the release of its annual results to assess

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the impact of new US export The US Commerce Department made

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the move after ZTE and its units allegedly violated its sanctions

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on Iran. Let us take you to the business live

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page, a lot of budget reaction in the UK with some corporate news

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around the world. You will know that the airline has been set by all

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sorts of industrial relations problems that have hampered its

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efforts for a turnaround plan, it has told us that strong annual

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results for last year, thanks to what it says are lower fuel prices

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and more customers. All of that as we said despite the big problems

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related to industrial action. Also we have got some bosses on the move,

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surround rue witty, who has been running GlaxoSmithKline, he will

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leave in March 2000 17. That is a big story comedies quite a

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significant player in the significant player in the

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pharmaceuticals industry. And also the boss of Rio Tinto, he is

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retiring this year. And this man is the new man who will take the top

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job. He will become the boss of Rio Tinto, he is currently in charge of

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their division for copper and coal. Glaxo looking for a new boss so

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sending your CV 's. The US central bank concluded

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its meeting on Wednesday and Janet Yellen had no

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surprises for investors, But she did reflect concern

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about the global economy and its impact on the US,

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the dollar and inflation, so only two rate increases

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are likely this year. How did markets react

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to this in Asia? Sharanjit Leyl is in

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our Asia Business Hub. Pretty much every Asian market is

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higher with the exception of Japan, and then Nick K which has closed

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lower. As investors took in the Federal reserve decision to keep

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rates still, export rates were sold off on the stronger yen. The Federal

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reserve staying back, the projection for interest rate hikes, has meant

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that risk appetite has returned for many investors, most Asian markets

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taking their cue from the Wall Street, S 500 closing at its

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highest level following that fairly cautious message from the US central

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bank. Of course we have got global growth concerns about China,

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grappling through much of this year and one of the reasons why they may

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have influenced the Fed decision. Commodity prices are up and the

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reason why is that investors are not likely to be lured away by the

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appeal of higher US interest rates. They still seem fairly good bets for

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investors. STUDIO: Thank you very much indeed. For most of the session

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in Tokyo, it was in positive territory, Hong Kong up strongly.

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That is the night before, the main markets in the States, closing

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really strongly. Let us look at Europe to see how it is going. We

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have got many energy stocks doing well because of the price of oil,

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Brent crude, across-the-board in Europe we are seeing strong gains,

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after a mixed close in Europe on Wednesday. For a look ahead to what

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we can expect on Wall Street here is Michelle flurry. US investors going

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to Thursday enjoying some extra lift courtesy of the Fed, the Wednesday

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monetary policy committee now says that they expect to make fewer hike

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rates than they previously did. Stock investors like that news a

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lot, driving the S 500 to its highest level since 2016, attention

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now turns to economic data out on Thursday, the weekly estimate of how

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many people make their first game for unemployment benefit is the

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market 's best running tally of how the job market is faring. The

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initial claims release as it is also known is expected to show a rise

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from the past week but it is still around its lowest level for five

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months. That plus the Philadelphia Fed's survey of business conditions

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in one of the biggest industrial regions, the United States will give

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investors plenty to think about. Jane Foley is with us, she is the

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senior currency strategist, a quick word on the Fed, because not

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changing rates, as always, it was what Janet Yellen said? She seemed

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to be very cautious, partly because of the global economy, she mentioned

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the global headwinds. The US economy has been closed to most other

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economy so it is significant. Also, the more cautious members of the

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committee, certainly seem to be dominating. One member abstained,

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she wanted an immediate rate hike, she abstained, but generally it is

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the doves that got to the board. It is all about caution, it is the tone

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of the Federal reserve and it is definitely the tone of George

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Osborne, his budget statement in the UK on Wednesday, and interestingly,

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the economic intelligence unit is rating some of the top risks to the

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global economy and it has got Donald Trump among the top ten? Economists

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are quite concerned, because with respect to Trump, it is difficult to

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see what his policies are, but he has come out with some comments

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which suggest that he's very protectionist and that is something

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that can slow world growth. Trump on protectionism is a big worry for

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economists but also because he has come out and has said something that

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could be deemed as a war crime, that you had to go to the families of

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terrorists. On the back of that, you could see resignations from some

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senior Army officials in the US had a lot of uncertainty about what a

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Trump presidency could bring. You will be back with us in just a few

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minutes but thank you. Talking of risks, staying safe

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online, we will meet the boss of the tech security firm, it says it can

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keep information safe from hackers. You are watching business News live,

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stay with us. First more reaction to that budget speech yesterday from

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the Chancellor George Osborne, the aid budget, some fairly downbeat

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forecasts. Emma Jones is founder of small

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business support group Enterprise Do you welcome what you've heard

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from the Chancellor? Absolutely, this was a fantastic

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strong business budget for small businesses, business rates being

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abolished, corporate tax rates coming down. They are a joy seeing

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this morning. Talk us through changes to taxes and rates because

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it has been a big bugbear for small firms who are really struggling to

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deal with competition from their larger rivals, this will help small

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firms we believe that the cost of larger firms? I'm not quite sure it

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is at the cost of larger firms but it is great cost to the high Street,

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600,000 fans will no longer had to pay business rates which is

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incredible, a lot of retailers happy. But this thing around big

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corporate, big corporate and small businesses working together is ready

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important, I think that big corporate is paying their tax, and

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the Chancellor is making sure that the small ones are paying less. Give

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us a sense of how big a part of the economy, it

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Small businesses power the economy and they are entrepreneurial and

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yesterday was a celebration of small business. The Chancellor was showing

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he took small businesses seriously. One easy target we thought would be

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motorists. Global oil prices are down, but the Chancellor chose to

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keep fuel duty steady. That is good for business like transport and for

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staff who need vehicles. Absolutely. Whether you are an eBay trader,

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whether you are on the high Street, whether you rent out your house,

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there were tax allowances for that. The economy is made up by small

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businesses and the Chancellor made sure they got the breaks they need

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to keep on growing. Emma Jones. The founder of the Moneysupermarket is

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finally selling the rest of his shares. ?120 million.

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You're watching Business Live, our top story: President Dilma Rousseff

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is battling to save her government amid a deepening political

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And news that her predecessor, former president Luiz Inacio Lula da

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Silva, will be returning to government.

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That's prompted protests, the Brazilian real plunging

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Now, technology means we can do more and more on the move,

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But how safe is the data and work we access via smartphones,

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He makes software that helps companies protect their data,

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especially for workers who aren't in the office.

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The company's Chief Executive, is Jaspreet Singh,

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He moved to Germany to study computer science as part

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And it was a $1,000 loan from his father that helped him

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start up his own firm selling Indian food to students.

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But after a spell at tech firm Veritas, he founded Druva in 2008.

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It has its HQ in California and has 3,500 customers around the world.

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Jaspreet Singh, the CEO of Druva joins us in the studio now.

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Nice to see you. Talk us through how this works. It is about protecting

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people on the move and we know people are working elsewhere, not

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just in the office, and security for all firms is a big issue.

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Absolutely. For example, what happens if the customer has data

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everywhere from tablets, cloud services. We help to understand data

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on all these devices, collect it and preserve it for as long as you want.

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For discovery and compliance and all those different reasons. The

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businesses who are more concerned about learning more about their data

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from a breach perspective, from a discovery perspective, to understand

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and collect an aggregate data for security reasons going forward.

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Explain where you saw the gap in the market in terms of provision of this

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kind of security. You were working at Veritas and because you were an

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entrepreneur you needed to move on and I heard you got bored. You talk

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about managing data at the edge, what ever the edge is, and that is

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where your business model started. Absolutely. When I left the job I

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was trying to solve surge and understand what to do next and we

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saw this big kind of mobility or cloud coming in and 40% data would

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be an egg. The legacy approach of managing it and predicting it and

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covering your risk around data would not go the way of the past, building

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a data centre. You have to look at where the data is and protect it

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there and then. So IBM, a big data centre, does not currently covered

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that? Yes, they do, they cover in a legacy way. They manage the

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information back in the data centre. You have to think about hybrid and

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electric cars and mobility and risk. It is a completely different

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process. Let's talk about India. Up until now we have known it for

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outsourcing technology and services. You are suggesting now there is a

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home-grown industry in IT and technology and new innovation coming

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from India. How has that changed? Quite a bit. Traditionally the whole

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world would be a credit cost model. When I was in Veritas, the laptop I

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worked on, the mobile phone I had, was very different from my US

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counterpart. In time the bridge blended. We have cloud, the same

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devices and the same servers. So the gap between what ever a person has

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in the world is bridging. There is a global trend in entrepreneurship. In

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India, something we cover a lot, there is a push to get business and

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investment in India, and yet for your company you had to move to

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California to progress. It was not happening from where you were near

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Mumbai. It is about where the talent is. You have got to find the best

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talent. For a large enterprise buying from a start-up is not just

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about technology, it is about the whole business model, selling it and

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building it. The talent pool was all in the Bay area and we moved there

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to build a large company. It has been great to have you on the

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programme. and jewellery industry -

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Baselworld - gets under way It's a good barometer

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of the global economy. So how is the luxury watch trade

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coping with these uncertain times? A few things say new wealth as

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effectively as a luxury watch. Switzerland exports $22 billion a

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year. But sales are on the slide. Over the past year they fell 3%

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worldwide. In China, a key market for the new rich, they fell by 23%.

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The economic slowdown and stock market crashes are partly to blame,

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so too is the government's crackdown on luxury gift giving. Smart watches

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have come through as a serious competitor. Last year 8.1 million of

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them were sold, compared to 7.9 million Swiss watches. Nowadays

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there is a glut of luxury watches on the market. Independent dealers on

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the Internet are selling them to clear at discounts of up to 75%.

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Some watchmakers are trying to drive up sales by bringing out a cheaper

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lines. Others are having to cut costs. Cartier is cutting 350 jobs

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at its headquarters. We are looking at various stories

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and this one is interesting. 3-D printers are cheaper and they are

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taking on toys. $400 for a printer. The reviewers said the first time he

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reviewed it they cost about $1400. He has been spending the last few

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weeks reviewing them and he says they are not perfect. That is a hard

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job. You cannot print something like a Lego brick, they are not that

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precise, but $400 is cheap. But the big question is, how much is the

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plastic that feeds them? He says it is $24 a kilogram. That is expensive

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if you are on our pocket money budget. But it means a 3-D printer

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can be in the range of many families. Pocket money budget is the

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key because the toy makers are thinking this will be the next big

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thing. Your kid could design a toy. In the

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past you used a washing-up bottle liquid. Now you have this creativity

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you could never have before. Yes, he said it is about having an app that

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let's you design something and then let's you print it and have it. You

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have sent as lots of suggestions including a mini then.

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Lots of comments coming in. Some of you are very political, you want

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things like new government, new leaders, new president. A few of you

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are suggesting a radiator key because it is something you can

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never find. Toys for your kids. You might want to create limbs for

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people with disabilities. I think that has already been developed by

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certain manufacturers. The Guardian looks at the budget

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like all the UK press completely across-the-board and they are

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talking about ?56 billion black hole. Growth has been revised down

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by 0.3% over each of the five years. That is significant. The Federal

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reserve also revised down growth and that means money coming in will not

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be as much as the Chancellor had expected. Nice to see you as always.

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Thank you for your contributions and your company. We will see you

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tomorrow. Goodbye. It might have started a bit murky

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and great, but increasing amount of sunshine are developing out there at

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the moment and we will settle into a fine and sunny afternoon for the

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majority. There will

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