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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson

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Corporate giants forced to come clean -

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the EU cracks down on tax avoidance, with plans to force big firms

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Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday 12th of April.

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The European Union prepares to unveil new tax rules

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for the world's biggest companies, forcing them to reveal how much tax

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But will the EU target tax havens too?

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Japan's biggest brokerage Nomura plans cost cuts

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Around 1,000 employees in Europe and the Americas are expected

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to lose their jobs in a massive reorganisation of the business.

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This is how Europe has opened in the first few minutes of trade, we will

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assess the movers. And it's International Record

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Store Day this Saturday. We'll be getting the inside track

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on vinyl, when we speak to the company that makes

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these record players. We will make the boss of, the

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company that makes these record players. What other retro- tech

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would you like to see? It is a busy show, let's get

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started. Plans to force corporate giants

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to disclose more about their tax affairs will be unveiled

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by the European Union later today. Even before the leak

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of the Panama Papers - which shone a spotlight on tax

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avoidance globally - the European Commission

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was debating new rules Tax avoidance currently costs the EU

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between $60 and 80 million dollars That's big bucks when

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many EU countries are So the new proposals

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would require big companies - those earning over $850 million

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a year - will have to publish their income and tax reports

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from whichever EU country they operate in, on a

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country-by-country basis. It would cover 6,500 companies

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around the world, including But tax transparency campaigners say

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the rules won't go far enough. They argue tax havens should also

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fall under the new rules, with data from outside

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the EU to be published Thanks for being on the programme.

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Just to start with, hearing what Ben outlined sounds like a huge headache

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for these global companies to have to come up with all this new

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information? This draft proposal was put forward by the European

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Commission today and if it gets through, multinational companies and

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big companies would have to disclose that rough it, income and tax bills

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that they make within the EU, that would be available to the public --

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disclose their profits, income and tax bills. This could get a real

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boost because of the Panama Papers, there is more interest because tax

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avoidance is bigger news. They are talking about drawing up and EU list

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of tax havens. They would need to get member countries on board to

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list tax havens. Basically, it would mean that if a multinational or big

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company which does business within the EU has interests in a tax haven,

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they would have to declare. The EU can't enforce anything, it would be

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up to the parent nation to deal with it. It is the idea of putting it out

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there for the public. Transparency campaigners are saying, oh, well, it

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does not go far enough, it means that multinationals would not have

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to publish their income in tax payment outside of the EU. -- income

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and tax payments. At the EU would like this to pass, they did not

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think it would go through if they made multinationals do that. Just to

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say, which is typical of Europe, this will take quite some time

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before it comes into force, assuming the announced plans are approved?

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This is draft legislation being proposed today. It will have to be

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accepted by EU leaders and then it will have to go through the European

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Parliament. They are hoping that, because of the Panama Papers

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scandal, there will be political will. It might be embarrassing for

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EU leaders to oppose it too strongly. Also, it needs a qualified

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majority vote to pass, it has been put into financial services, it does

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not need unanimous voting, so they are hopeful that it will move

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through, but the process takes months. For now, Leana, thank you

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very much. She will keep us up to date. Some of the other business

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News... Metals giant Alcoa has

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cut its forecasts for revenue and earnings as it downgraded

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expectations for global growth. The firm - which is often

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seen as an indicator of the health of US industry -

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says first-quarter earnings fell by 92%,

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hurt by weak aluminium prices. The company also says it's

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considering up to 2,000 job cuts. Luxury goods retailer LVMH says

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revenues were up 4% in the first three months of this year,

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compared to the same LVMH owns more than 60 luxury

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brands, including Kenzo, The company said the US

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market remained strong, but France has been affected

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by a fall in tourism. Particularly sends the November

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terrorist attacks in Paris. -- particularly since.

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Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff has suffered a blow to her hopes

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A special committee in Brazil's lower house of Congress has voted

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in favour of recommending her impeachment over allegations

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Looking at what is being discussed online today, there is a lot of

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detail on some of the stories we have mentioned. If you want to dig

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into the tax story you can look at that Onana Business Life page. There

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are many of the stories, Nomura, which we will talk about with a team

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in Singapore in a moment, but it is the London Book Fair starting this

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morning. Some nice old tech to get your teeth into! In the wake of the

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Kindle and the growth of e-readers, the book is making a bid of a

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comeback. That is a bit like story about vinyl. Let's mention Japan.

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Japan's largest brokerage, Nomura, plans to shut down its European

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equity operations as it cuts costs after years of failing to become

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Nomura, this is interesting, we have heard about the implications of a

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slowdown around the world and what it means for many organisations, to

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some extent the financial world has survived most of this unscathed, but

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not yet getting through quite so cleanly? Global investment banks in

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recent years, many have been selling off Origi sing the size of non-core

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or non-performing businesses. Japan 's Nomura is the latest to join

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them. We understand they are downsizing the size of a European

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cash equities business. They are not shutting it down, they are getting

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rid of basic and proportion, meaning lots of jobs will go -- getting rid

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of a significant proportion. They say that will be 500 to 600 jobs in

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North America and Europe, but another source says around 1000 jobs

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could go as well. This is a big load from Nomura, they have wanted to be

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an international player on the banking stage. In 2008 they bought

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Lehman Brothers' European and Asian businesses when the firm went under

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chewing the height of the financial crisis, they wanted to build their

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brands abroad. Ultimately, it has not performed, they have not made

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money, and so like their peers they have suffered from market volatility

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and they are shrinking the size of businesses that are not doing well.

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Thank you, Leisha Chi in Singapore bureau.

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Let's look at what the numbers are doing at the moment.

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Worries over earnings on the minds of investors this week.

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The worry that it could be another disappointing quarter and there's

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lots of speculation about just how bad it could get.

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Major banks announcing their earnings this week

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and if they come in below expectations, it starts raising

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tough questions for policymakers, not least the Fed and whether it

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Mariko Oi has the details from New York.

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The International Monetary Fund issues its latest world economic

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Outlook on Tuesday, this comes just ahead of the IMF's Spring meetings

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with the World Bank taking place this week in Washington, DC. In the

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forecast, expect warnings that the global economy is at risk, because

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of China's downturn, lower commodity prices and the slowdown in emerging

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market economies. This week brings plenty of fresh US economic data. On

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Tuesday, look out the numbers on the federal budget in addition to import

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and export prices. In tech news, Facebook holds its annual developers

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conference this week in San Francisco. It kicks off on Tuesday

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and CEO Mark Zuckerberg will be delivering the keynote address. That

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is the lovely Mariko, she is normally in Singapore but she is in

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New York at the moment. Joining us is Tom Stevenson,

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Investment Director Good morning, Tom. As Mariko

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mentioned, it is about earnings. The news last night did not look good?

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Earnings are a big focus, Alcoa always kicks it off, they were

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pretty disappointing. 92% fall. They downgraded the outlook for global

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growth and demand for aluminium. The thing about earnings season this

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quarter is the expectations are very low, we expect earnings to be as

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much as 8% lower, year-on-year. In a way, that could be good, markets

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react to what they expect. If earnings expectations are as low as

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they are, things could turn out better than expected. That

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fascinates me about earnings season, it is managing expectations. Lots of

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organisations have said that things are terrible, the reality is

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difficult, but if you speak to them privately, they say, things are not

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bad, we are coping, there is a real mismatch between what they want to

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publicly admit this is what they are preparing us for? Lots of it is

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managing expectations, if you can get the market to think that things

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will be pretty bad, when you announce your figures it can give

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your share price a boost. Oil is in focus, at the end of last week in

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particular? One of the reasons why earnings season is expected to be so

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bad is because the energy sector profits will be very, very low,

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almost wiped out. All eyes will be on the Doha negotiations, they are

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talking about whether they can cut production in order to boost the

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price. Expectations for a positive outcome through those talks has

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already seen the oil price push-up to about $43 a barrel, a lot higher

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than six weeks ago or so. Thank you, Tom. He will talk as do some of the

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stories later. Vinyl revival - they were once

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destined for museums and history books, but vinyl records

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are making a comeback. And that's good news

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for the makers of record players! We meet the man behind one

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of the world's most respected makers of turntables -

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the Glasgow-based firm Linn You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. We've had an update from the online

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retailer ASOS this morning. It says profits are up

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18% to ?21.2 million The firm began life at the height

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of the dotcom boom in 2000, has had a tough few years but now

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says it's on track to meet sales and profit guidance for the full

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year. I think ASOS stands for As Seen On

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Screen? Absolutely. Kate Hardcastle is a retail expert

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at Insight With Passion. Good morning. Talk is through this

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turnaround. It has been pretty tough in recent times, but we are told

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that things are looking much better? What I think ASOS have done

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brilliantly is determine what their core purposes, they have understood

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that, for a 20-something customer, of which they want to be the world

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leading retailer to supply them, they had to change their business to

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suit. You have got offers to that 20-something customer, free returns,

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free delivery, categorisation not only by-product but by fashion trend

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and celebrity, which makes the ASOS site very appealing, there

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easy-to-use and, for a 20-something, very exciting. Hind the scenes they

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have operations to conform a lot better, they have their

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international situation sorted out by pulling out of China are little

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bits, they have ensured that their operational/ chair, their returns

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policy etc, is healthier for the customer -- their operational

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structure. That said, you will still see consumers complaining about the

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challenges they find contacting somebody at the business.

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Interesting that ASOS should see a turnaround, companies like Marks

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Spencer, that dignity with their women's clothing, are struggling. Do

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they look at these companies and try to pick from them the best bits of

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turnaround plans? That is what you have with ASOS, they will be

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spending money and leading the way, others will be quick to follow,

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adding not gone down some of the dead-end roots that they will have

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to invest in. -- having not gone down. They have listened to the

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customer and are delivering, that they have a very fickle customer in

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the 20-something. Marks Spencer 's have such a wider group of customers

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to be able to offer two, it is a much more difficult challenge. Thank

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you, Kate. Things looking much better, Kate,

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thank you. Our top story: Corporate giants

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forced to come clean. The EU cracks down on tax avoidance,

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with plans to force big firms to publish where

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they make their profits. And therefore pay tax in the

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jurisdiction in which it is earned. The EU says that could be about to

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end. This Saturday is International

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Record Store Day, an initiative designed to promote sales

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of vinyl records. After being consigned

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to the history books, sales of vinyl have soared

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and that's boosted demand And it's something our next guest

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knows all too well. The company is one of

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the world's most respected Linn was founded by Gilad's

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father, Ivor, in 1973. While the company still sells

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its original turntable and new home music systems,

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it also makes revenue from the sale of digital downloads

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from its recorded music division, and from its recently added line

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of digital streaming players. Gilad Tiefenbrun is

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Managing Director of Linn. A very warm welcome to Business

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Live. Thank you. There is so much to your business, I think people

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generally think of the turntable, don't they? Because that's really

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what you were about and what many sort of associate you with, isn't

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it? That's right. My father invented the Linn LP12 turntable in 1973. He

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was a mechanical engineer with a passion for music and people were

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designing turntables so they wouldn't skip on the record and

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through trial and error he realised if you focussed on getting

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information out of the groove of the record, you could actually achieve a

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much better sound. So you grew newspaper a home where you were

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being blasted by music all the time! Your dad and his colleagues testing

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things out. You told me there was a lot of Pink Floyd? Yes, I was kept

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awake by Darkside Of The Moon and ELO, that's what it was like back in

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the 70s. The vinyl and the record player has stood the test of time as

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we said there, making a come back now and in the meantime, we have

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seen CD players come and go, we have seen cassettes come and go, what is

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it about vinyl that people keep coming back to? There is something

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magical about the experience of taking that record out of its sleeve

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and you have to take really good care of it, putting it down on the

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platter and there is something interactive that makes you connect

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with the music and encourages you to listen to the full side of an album

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which is so different to the flipping mentality that there is

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today. So there is a real kind of enduring, enjoyment that goes with

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vinyl that really attracts people plus it sounds better than the other

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formats that you mentioned. It doesn't sound better than digital

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though and during the digital era, that was something that you

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introduced to the company, wasn't it? Well, that's right. Modern

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digital recordings are best experienced just played directly

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through a digital streamer like our range of players, but to a beguning

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generation they will only have experienced MP3, probably through

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portable players, so vinyl for them is a big jump up in quality,

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probably the best quality they will have experienced. We are talking

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about the comeback, but it will always be a niche business, I can't

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imagine this will see the full-scale appeal that it once did, but it is

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an important niche and one that will keep making money for you, but

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digital and streaming services are the majority of your business, how

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do you balance the two conflicting demands? Well, my father had the

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fore sight to design his turntable so it was upgradeable. So if you

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bought it the LP12 in 1973 you could upgrade it step by step to the 2016

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specification. We take a similar approach on the digital side, but it

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is software upgrades so if new formats come out, we make sure our

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customers can experience the improvements in sound quality. So

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what's the next step? Where do we go next? Well, I think people want to

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listen to whatever they want, wherever they are and I think what

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we are seeing then is higher quality digital coming along through

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streaming services like Tidal and they integrate to a system like Linn

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and allow you to access the huge libraries in the Cloud and not

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necessarily at MP3 quality, there is now higher quality music becoming

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available for everyone. It is fascinating. We could talk much

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more, but time is against us. Thank you for coming in. We appreciate it.

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We were asking you what other retro tech would you like to see make a

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comeback? A surprising number said you want to see cassettes back. I

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really don't understand that. I don't either. I remember them

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unRAFFing and the whole thing getting messy! And you had to do it

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with your pencil and the rubbish quality! A lot of you commenting on

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the difference in the quality as we touched on, the difference between

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CDs, records, vinyls and cassettes, clearly quality is a big issue. Are

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you too young for vinyl? No, I remember vinyl. He is not that young

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then you see! Not that young! Let's move swiftly on, shall we?

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. Well, how about adding

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17 more rotor blades? Entrepreneur Alex Zosel says

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that his unusual looking device with 18 rotors can still fly

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even if some of its batteries It can even land itself

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when battery power is low. But the multicopter can only fly

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for 25 minutes and is expected to cost nearly $300,000

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when it goes on sale. With 18 rotors we have a really safe

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system so we can lose more than two rotors with no problems and also

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in very hard and So we have a lot of people

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who want to buy it. So the first step is we want

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to sell to flight schools. So the challenge is

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with the authorities. The German authorities are working

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very, very good with us. So we are sure that we can have

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in two-and-a-half years a type certification so we can produce

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a large scale and sell it We were so.

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Busy having a chat there, welcome back!

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They didn't go anywhere. They were just listening to helicopter news.

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Welcome back to our conversation and Tom is with us to talk about the

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newspapers and Tom, we are going to talk about this tall tower. Dubai,

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home, of course, to the world's tallest, but they are going to build

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an even taller one? Yeah, funny that, isn't it? I can see why they

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are building another tall tower because the Saudis just next door

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are about to open an even taller, a one kilometre high kingdom tower.

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Unsurprisingly the UAE, Dubai are coming back by 2020 they will have

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an even taller tower and it will sit within a megaretail district, you

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would have thought Dubai probably had enough retail space, but who

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knows. Someone has done the research about when you build the towers and

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it tends to be, you build during a downturn when stuff is cheap and

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labour is cheap and building materials are cheap and you get the

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fruits of your labour when the economy picks up again. There is so

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there is a strange correlation between what the economy is doing

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and when you build these things? The cycle is wrong which is why property

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companies make a lot of money and lose a lot of money. That's the

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nature of the business. On from the tall tower to the new ?5 in

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Australia which viewers will see in a moment when this loads up. Sorry

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Australia dollars. A picture of the Queen on it? Yes, I have seen only

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seen a black and white picture. If you look at the comments below the

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story on the online version of this. We have got a colour one, Tom.

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Rather unfavourable comments about the colours, could have been drawn

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by a child in kindergarten. Plus the Queen is grey. A lot of comments

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about the Queen perhaps unsurprise grid in Australia. So --

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unsurprisingly in Australia. So it is not an uncontroversial note. It

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makes h look rather young. On to the Guardian, Kraft beer, we have a lack

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of hops. This is another industry that we used to do very well and

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stopped doing. We used to grow lots of hops, we stopped growing hops and

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now they are grown in America and Germany, but there has been a

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problem with the German harvest. There is a shortage of hops. The

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price are soaring and one of the reason the price is soaring is

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because of Kraft beer, they use a lot of hops, Kraft beers. Are you a

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craft beer fan? I like a beer once in a while. Let's ignore that. My

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tablet is doing funny things. Sally has broken the tablet so it means we

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have got to go! That's all from Business Live for

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another day. We are back tomorrow. We are, same time, same place. Have

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a great day. Bye-bye.

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