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Could it be the first cut in seven years?

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The Bank of England says it is ready for action to stave off

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a Brexit recession - so will it slash interest

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Live from London, that's our top story on Thursday 14th July.

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Rates have been at a record low since March 2009, but they could be

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And after a reshuffle of the top team in government,

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the UK's new finance minister says there's no need for

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Also in the programme: China's appetite for chicken is back,

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as the owner of KFC and Pizza Hut gives an upbeat assessment

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And as well as news of a rate cut, could there also be

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But are Central Banks running out of tools?

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And we meet the London teenager who ditched university,

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launched his own business and now runs a tech firm in the heart

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Entrepreneur James Proud tells us his story - and how building

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websites at the age of 12 set him up for a lucrative career in tech.

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And doom and gloom or great new opportunity?

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Are you sick of the warnings about Brexit, or are

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And we meet the London teenager who ditched university,

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Are you sick of the warnings about Brexit, or are

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they necessary reminders of uncertain times?

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Get in touch, use the hashtag BBC Biz Live.

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We start here in London, where in a few hours' time the Bank

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of England will decide what action it can take to shore up the UK

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economy in the wake of last month's vote to leave the EU.

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And first on the cards is a likely cut

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Well, before the vote, bank governor Mark Carney warned

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of the risks Brexit would pose to the economy.

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Last week - after the vote - he said those risks had already

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One survey of consumer confidence has seen its biggest ever fall.

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It's a similar picture for the service and

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Interest rates are already at a record low of half a per cent -

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where they have been for the past seven years.

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They were initially slashed at the height of the global

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Most are predicting another cut today - by a quarter of a percent.

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And it's thought the cost of borrowing could be ultimately

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Since the referendum the Bank of England has already eased capital

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requirements for Banks - basically how much they have

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It hopes that will free up $200 billion for lending.

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But many economists think that won't be enough to stave off

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recession and suggest more Quantitative Easing or QE -

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printing billions of pounds of new money might be needed.

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Give us your take on what might happen. Most of the market thinks

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there will be a rate cut. Most of those people think it will be 0.25%.

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Mark Carney has said before the referendum vote that he wasn't keen

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on a negative interest rate, so I don't think the bank will be

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hurrying to follow the bank of Japan, the European Central Bank in

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the central bank of Sweden, who have all played with negative interest

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rates, but that cut, I think, is in direct response to the EU

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referendum. It is not that long ago that Mark Carney was suggesting that

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the next rate change would be upward. That has completely changed

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since the referendum. There are fears here, held by lots of

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economist, not all but some, that Britain could be facing a referendum

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because of... Sorry, a recession, because of the uncertainty created

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by the referendum. The bank is responding to that. I spoke to an

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American economist who used to be a member of the monetary policy

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committee, and he thought there should be shock and awe. He thought

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they should go straight to zero to show that they are there to provide

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stability. I don't think they will go that far this time.

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The idea of central banks running out of tools - if they cut too soon,

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they get to appoint quickly where they have nothing else to offer.

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Some critics are saying it is too soon today because we don't know the

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Economists believe that the bank has Economists believe that the bank has

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to get ahead of the curve. If you cut into a recession, you are too

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late. Once the economy has reached that tipping point, cutting at that

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point may be too late. Lots of economists feel there should be now.

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The notion that they are running out of ammunition needs to be dealt with

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carefully. They have more asset -- asset purchasing they could do. They

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can do monetary easing for banks to provide credit, so there are stumps

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on -- spills some bullets left in Mark Carney's armoury.

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Let's hear what Filippo Hammond had his aid. We will have meetings

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today. We have two distinguished the short-term from the longer term. In

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the short-term, the decision to exit the EU came out a surprise to the

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markets. It came out a surprise to a lot of people. Therefore, it has

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rattled confidence and caused people to put plans on hold while they wait

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to see how things clarify. The fact we have moved quickly to resolve the

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question of the leadership of the Conservative Party and get a new

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Prime Minister installed I think will help to restore business and

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consumer confidence. What we have to do now is show, as a team, how we're

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going to bring negotiations with the EU forward, how we will support and

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stabilise the economy in the coming months in order to help that

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confidence to be restored as quickly as possible. Filippo Hammond,

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speaking on the first day of his new job. He will meet with -- Filippo

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Hammond... -- Philip Hammond. Fiscal policy,

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what the Government does on tax and spending, on borrowing, these are

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all big decisions that will really affect whether -- where the British

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economy goes. A busy day for you and us. For now,

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thank you very much. He is hotfooting it to the Bank of

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England. Do take a look at our website. You can follow us online. I

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will be there for the interest rate decision at midday. Stay with us for

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that, we will keep you up-to-date. In other news, the number of homes

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being put up for sale in the UK has seen its biggest fall in almost two

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decades - and demand from buyers has hit an eight year low -

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according to the Royal Institution It's the first survey

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of the UK housing market Surveyors expect house prices

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to fall across the UK Shares of Nintendo have

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continued to soar - up more than 16 per cent in Asia

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today - on the runaway success of Players have to track down virtual

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characters by moving Experts say the technology

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could also be used for marketing and that's what's got

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investors so excited. Nintendo's stock market value

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is up almost 60 per cent The coffee giant Starbucks has

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bought a stake in the premium The artisan Italian brand

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will become the exclusive food provider at all of the new luxury

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Starbucks outlets. This means that Starbucks will bake

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fresh goods onsite for the first Just reading that has made me

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hungry. But that looks nothing like a

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Starbucks. You are so cynical! Fresh pastry is

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awesome, whatever the source! Fast Retailing has cut its forecast.

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There is a bit of a glitch in Singapore. The stock market stock

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trading because of a technical glitch. The deadline passed and it

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did not restart. Our colleagues in Singapore will keep you up-to-date

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online. Not the first technical glitch.

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We are having a few here, actually. You would never know!

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She's in Singapore, where Yum Brands -

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the company behind Pizza Hut and FKC - has announced strong results.

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You might remember the company making the headlines after a series

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of food scandal several years ago in China. The company has recovered

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from that quite well, sales rising 6% in the second quarter, coming in

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at $3 billion. They raised their profit for grass, up 14%. -- their

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profit forecast. Consumer preference is shifting from fast food to

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healthier options, and the company has been localising their menu at

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KFC and Pizza Hut might well. Analysts say they are only appealing

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to people looking for cheaper options in smaller cities, so later

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this year, the company plans to split off its China business in

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order to make business decisions more quickly locally.

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Thank you. A quick look at the numbers. Shares in Japan ended

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higher for the fourth straight session. That is largely down to a

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weaker yen. That quick reshuffle of the Government and the promise of

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interest rate cuts have meant that the markets have started up.

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Stability is the one thing they crave at times like this. That

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interest rate decision is due at midday. I will be live in the City

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of London. All of our team are across that for you. Remember,

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America has been trying to raise the cost of borrowing and increase

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interest rates. At the start of the earnings season for the big

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investment bank, they will watch events here very closely indeed,

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because while low interest rates are good for some people, they are bad

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banks because they make less profitable.

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Low interest rates are here to stay, at least for a lot longer than

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anyone expected, but that means revenues for banks like JP Morgan

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will suffer. Ultralow interest rate make money mending not a very

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lucrative business. Banks need to make money elsewhere, but the

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China's economy slowing and with the price of oil and gas remaining low,

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markets are volatile. It means investors are more likely to wait on

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the sidelines and watch the storm pass. It also means banks will make

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less revenue from trading. JP Morgan has another problem - it employs

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some 16,000 people in Britain and makes around $8 billion in the UK,

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which means investors will be looking very closely to see just how

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the bank will be affected by Britain's impending exit from the

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EU. It is a question that investors will ask of all Brown 's -- of all

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banks. Simon Derrick is currency analyst at

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the bank of New York. Before we talk about helicopter money, which will

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explain, your prediction for today, the Bank of England? 0.25% down. I

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think they are going to cut. There has been clear guidance from Mr

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Carney. For him not to do that, the risk is that you get an astonishing

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rally of the pound. Shock and awe? I think he wants to give himself a

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second run. He is looking at this meeting and the one in August as

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being a package. He wants to give himself space, why do everything at

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once? When it comes to what everyone else is looking at, for everyone

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apart from the banks, it might mean there is more money in our pockets,

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that borrowing is cheaper? help exporters. You have seen that

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in the FTSE in the last couple of days out. Helicopter money is

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something people might believe might happen in Japan, the anchored by

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bonds, put them back into the market bonds, put them back into the market

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and never sell them back. Printing money and injecting it in. If you

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look at what has happened in Japan, the currency has weakened

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dramatically, it has a huge positive impact on the Japanese stock market.

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We will return soon, we will see you in five minutes.

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Don't say you don't learn anything on this programme, helicopter money.

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Skipping university and going straight to Silicon Valley.

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We'll be hearing from the London-born tech

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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Where will the UK property market go next?

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UK property investors are waiting to see how

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Today the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors published

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It is a pretty downbeat assessment of the state of the housing market,

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or what will become of it in the run-up to Brexit. It was largely to

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political shock, you would expect political shock, you would expect

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some uncertainty, and when you are making a major capital purchase like

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buying a home, you are going to become much more cautious. But we do

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need to consider this against the context that it is a short-term

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response, and it will be interesting to see what happens now, especially

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if we see the cut in base rates, and given that we have more political

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issue around the Conservative Party issue around the Conservative Party

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has been resolved. When you look at the detail of the survey, is it a

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nationwide issue, or does London nationwide issue, or does London

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dominate again? It is pretty much nationwide, that is what you would

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have expected. London is slightly different because it has had a

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prolonged period of very strong price growth. What we have seen in

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previous months is some indicators of a softening within the market,

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which is about the right time, and I expect this will be the catalyst for

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that. Everybody talks about Brexit being a risk, but prices will not

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change unless supply or demand changes. Neither of those seem to

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change any time soon. There will be a short-term impact on demand,

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people's position to be able to buy, that will create a short-term

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disconnect, which will mean that transaction levels will fall and

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price growth will soften, it may fall into some of the weaker

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markets. But beyond that, we have to look at the fundamentals, the supply

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and demand, what will happen to the cost of borrowing, slightly offset

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by Access ability to the market. We have heard from David Davis, he

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is the new Secretary of State for Brexit, a new job in the Cabinet.

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You can read his thoughts on our page.

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The Bank of England says it is ready for action to stave

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off a Brexit recession, so will it slash interest rates

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We expect a decision at mid-day, full coverage across the BBC.

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A quick look at how markets are faring.

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Europe are keeping an eye on Mark Europe are keeping an eye on Mark

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Carney and his team. All higher by quite a margin at the moment.

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Now, here's a story that you'll either love or hate.

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The story of a young British tech entrepreneur who's made it big

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and now runs his firm in America's Silicon Valley.

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Not bad for a kid who skipped university.

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James Proud was raised in south London and started building

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In his late teens he was spotted by US billionaire investor

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Peter Thiel and awarded a fellowship as part of an entrepreneur

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He's now the chief executive of a firm called Hello

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in Silicon Valley which makes a sleep-tracking

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When I was nine years old I discovered that

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you could build websites for yourself, and so if you have

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a nine-year-old with the internet, he can build his own websites,

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When I was 12 I figured out I could get paid to do that stuff

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as well, so I started building websites for other people,

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My mum thought I was a drug dealer, but I explained that they don't get

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I kept doing that, then when I was finishing sixth form

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in the UK I had this online side project at 17 that I launched.

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I took a gap year between then and university so I could

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At the end of that year it was a case of, "If I go

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to university now, I will not be able to spend 18 hours a day doing

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The first thing I want to do is what I am doing, so I won't go."

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Peter Thiel put together a programme, the Thiel Fellowship,

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20 Under 20, which was 20 young people under the age of 20,

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and he gave them $100,000 not to go to university.

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I was the first one in the first class.

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The only one that was not from the US.

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I was the only one that went out there, "How do

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They said, "We have not thought about this yet!"

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I had the fun of, "How do I not get deported?"

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19, no job, no degree, it is a bit harder.

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"Here's money each month, and go figure it out."

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Sense is a sleep device which is three things.

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It helps you to fall asleep, it helps you to improve your sleep,

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and it helps you to wake up each morning feeling great and not groggy

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The way it does that is inside it is a sound machine,

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so we play sounds like white noise, rainfall, meditative sounds

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It is packed full of not just senses to see how you are sleeping,

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but the environmental conditions, light, sound, temperature,

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humidity, air quality, the things that affect sleep.

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You don't have to wear anything, there is no plugging things in,

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pressing buttons, putting things on your head.

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It can collect all of this information and say,

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here are your patterns, here is how you can improve it,

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here are those things that are not great, maybe

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lower the temperature, make it darker.

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The third piece is it is the best alarm clock,

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because we know your sleep cycle, we know when you are

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You will say, "I want to be up at 9am," but maybe at 8:52am

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You know when your alarm goes off and you can get out of bed

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That is James proud there. Rachel was talking! I told you we

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had technical issues, that one you noticed! Do you need a machine to

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help you get to sleep? It is difficult to stay awake during the

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evening, never mind at night! Getting up is my problem. But let's

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talk about Brexit, we ask for viewers' responses. An issue we have

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One person says, so much negativity, One person says, so much negativity,

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talk about the positives that it can have, it is our fault, the BBC seems

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to look for the bad. Ray says, we are cowering in anticipation. Abby

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says, fed up of the bad news from the BBC. Keep pushing doom and

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gloom. Others point out, it is important to keep a close eye on it.

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James says, in the run-up to the referendum, there were problems

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about getting the real story. Keep your comments coming in.

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It is all over the papers. In the Independent, everything could still

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be OK, says a small group of economists. We had one on our

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programme, talking about the economy. There is a danger we

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talk ourselves into a recession. If talk ourselves into a recession. If

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you look at what we do know so far, markets are performing as they

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should, equity markets have stabilised, it makes UK assets on

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competitive. We just have to wait competitive. We just have to wait

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and see. It is too early to be either wildly optimistic or hugely

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negative. For the moment, all of the negative. For the moment, all of the

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claims about unemployment soaring... Yes, credits these say it is May

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Day, half a million jobs could go in the UK. Say we had a movement on

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compare it to Continental Europe, compare it to Continental Europe,

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fantastic youth unemployment in fantastic youth unemployment in

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we have to look at it in those we have to look at it in those

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terms. Don't get overly negative or positive, wait for the market. The

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voice of reason! But is it from us. Stay June for all

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of the news on the potential interest rate cut.

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Hello. I suspect that Thursday is the pick of the day is across the

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British Isles, a lot of dry weather, there will be sunshine, and it

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