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Hello, this is business live. The road to Rio has been fraught with

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doping scandals and political and economic crises and of course the

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Zika scare but it is set to be the biggest money games in history. That

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is our top story. Business bets big on Brazil, we will

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hear from the big boss Nissan on why spending millions of dollars on

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sponsoring these games was the right move. Also, if you build it, they

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will come. One retirement home in London has dug a tunnel to Harrods

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with all the elements. And a quick with all the elements. And a quick

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look at the markets, you can see they are up. As well as the big move

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of the Bank of England yesterday. And two months after the Europeans

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at the bank started buying corporate bonds, the Bank of England adopts a

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similar strategy. We will be assessing whether this really

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tackles the underlying causes of lacklustre growth. Mark Carney is

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throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the economic future he

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clearly sees as risky so we want to know if it is as bad as all that or

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are there any positive benefit from the decision to leave the EU.

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Welcome to the programme, a lot going on, we have that Friday

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feeling! We start in Brazil -

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where as you have been hearing the Rio 2016 Olympic Games will open

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in just a few hours time. But it's not just a big

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moment for sport - it's a lucrative

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money-making operation too. Rio is set to be the biggest

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money Games on record. Let's put it in some context

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for you. Back in 2008

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the Beijing Olympics pulled in broadcast rights and corporate

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sponsorship worth almost That figure was blown

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away four years later Now -

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the final figures for Rio 2016 are not in yet but it looks

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set to top $9.3 billion in commercial rights -

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making it the richest Games ever. That's despite a barrage

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of negative publicity - from political and economic

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crisis in Brazil - to the Zika virus outbreak -

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to the doping scandal overshadowing One of the companies investing

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heavily in Rio 2016 is car It is a major sponsor of the Torch

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relay, and it's CEO, He has been speaking

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to our South American business correspondent Daniel Gallas

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about paying so much Without any doubt it is the right

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decision because the objective from the beginning was to give more

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awareness to the Nissan brand. At the moment we are starting our

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offensive in the country and Latin America. The fact that we took this

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decision when the market was nearly 3.6 million cars a year and it is

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now nearer to 2 million cars a year does not change anything that we

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want to build a much higher awareness of our brand and product

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in a country which without any doubt will continue to be one of the major

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markets in the world and where our awareness is still behind some of

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the top players. It does not change anything, the fact that the market

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is down and hopefully in two or three years down the road it will be

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much higher. It is one of the things we were expecting. Awareness is the

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reason for which we are participating in the Olympics. The

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Olic it is with tell us why you think this will be

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the biggest moneyspinner we have seen. The Olympics is a unique

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product coming round every four years. You get the Winter Olympics

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in the middle which is an added bonus on that TV package! Is it a

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sporting festival, people all around the world are watching it, the

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television audience is something like 3.5 billion and sponsors want

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to be involved and there are a limited number of positions so they

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paid top bucks. I don't know if we know yet how much cost Brazil to put

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it on but if it brings in $9.3 billion, does a lot of that end up

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in the Brazilian economy or not? Most of it doesn't. What happens to

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the sponsorship and TV broadcasting rights revenue, they go to the

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International Olympic Committee. About 10% of that is used to pay for

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the IOC itself including the nice hotel that the president lives in!

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The rest goes down to the National sporting federations and

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international adoration and in theory to the athletes but by then

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it is quite diluted. As far as the host country is concerned, they are

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meant to make their money back through local sponsorship like the

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torch relay and getting tourists in. Rio is a good destination anyway and

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it is ebbing for a bonanza from the Olympics but the government has to

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pay a lot of money and in the case of London, the total cost was

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somewhere in the region of $12 billion which is a lot money to

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back. We're not sure how much this will have cost them but we note that

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when they bid for this in the first place, the Brazilian economy was in

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a completely different place and since then, whatever the cost, we

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know it has spiralled, up by 50% and construction has been very difficult

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to get it on time so I wonder if Brazilians might be thinking if we

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really need this at a time when the economy is in crisis. That is always

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the risk with in an Olympics, you bid for it with great hope years in

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advance and everybody is very enthusiastic. It falls in a

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recession like this, it can be rather unfortunate. You have to look

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back at Athens 12 years ago to see that a lot of money was spent on

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infrastructure, it did not seem to benefit their economy very much and

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many of the venues were left to become derelict. The New York Times

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has an article about that, whether the spirit has gone and the recent

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study amongst Brazilians, 60% or study amongst Brazilians, 60% or

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more don't support it. Thank you. Apple is going to start offering

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rewards for finding security flaws. It will pay hackers

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$200,000 if they find They're not the only

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ones doing this. AT, Facebook, Google, Microsoft,

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Tesla Motors and Yahoo In fact, in March, Facebook paid

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$10,000 to a 10-year-old boy in Finland who found a way

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to delete user comments New York State's financial

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regulator has requested a meeting with Goldman Sachs

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about its fundraising for Malaysian That's according to anonymous

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sources cited by The Wall Street giant's work

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with 1MDB is under the spotlight after a series of international

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investigations into the fund. The number of people in the UK

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being hired for permanent jobs has fallen by the fastest rate

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for seven years. The BOE forecast this week

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that the unemployment rate will rise to 5.6% from 4.9% over

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the next two years. In the last few months we have had a

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lot of comments about the RBS share price and we will have more on that

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later but there have been big falls and we have already seen that the

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share price is falling. And a bit from William Hill, gambling

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companies are doing well. This is William Hill which is a big gambling

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house here and its pre-tax profits jumped 28%. I am a bit sensible

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about it but it was the football, nobody was expecting that result.

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People made some big money. Yesterday, the Japanese carmaker

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Toyota reported a 15% The BBC's Tim McDonald has been

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looking at how investors reacted I don't imagine they liked it. You

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would think that, a 15% drop in profits does not sound good but

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their shares went up initially 3.2%. It is all about expectations and

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this time round to it were predicting $5.4 billion which is

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more than many people were tipping. They have been softening up

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investors since the last quarter saying that the land cruiser has

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left the motorway and things might be bumpier and that is down to a

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stronger yen which has gained about 16% against the dollar in the first

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top of the year. A lot of Toyota cars are made in Japan and a lot

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head overseas where a stronger yen makes them more expensive and cut

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into the valley of the earnings that come back to Japan. It is still a

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profitable company and investors today did not think they were

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looking at a car crash. That is always a surprise! Have a great

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weekend. Most Asian stock markets rose

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on Friday after the Bank of England launched a larger-than-expected

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post-Brexit stimulus package that An overnight rally in crude oil

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prices also sharpened investors' risk appetite,

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but caution before those big US jobs We were expecting about 180,000 new

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jobs to be created for the month of July.

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The BoE said it would take "whatever action is necessary"

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to achieve stability in the wake of Britain's vote

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I mentioned the US. Let's find out what will be making the headlines.

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about what's ahead on Wall Street Today.

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From now until November anything that refers to the strength of the

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US economy, you can expect it will be fodder for the American

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presidential elections so if Friday's jobs report is weak we can

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expect that the Republican candidate will say that this country needs

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change and it needs Donald Trump. If the jobs report is strong, you can

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expect that Democrats will say that the economy is getting better

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because of Democrat and you should vote Clinton. So what can we expect?

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Many economists believe that the jobs report will show that the

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labour market is healthy and that the unemployed rate may fall even

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further and that wages will increase ever so slightly. That is what the

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US Federal Reserve will be looking at when it considers whether it

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should raise US interest rates. Let's start with this jobs data. In

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a way, the number is not as important as what happens to wages

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because that is what they will be looking at. It is very much a

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combination effect so we have to see what the headline employment number

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is and the markets assume it will be a bit below 200,000 but if it was

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above that then it might cause the market to row back a little bit from

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the post-GDP reaction we saw last Friday. If we see average earnings

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higher, and a reasonable headline figure, we might see a market coming

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back to thinking, is the Fed still in play? If we get a good jobs

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number given what you have mentioned with the weaker growth from the US,

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we will all still be confused. Will they or won't they? Not long ago

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they were still saying two rises by the end of the year. We are in a

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scenario where the Federal Reserve are finding it easy to find reasons

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not to hike rates. The post-Brexit world has added to the uncertainty.

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If we see the deployment market remaining relatively robust, which

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has an impact into consumption over time, that still leaves the

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possibility of a rate hike before the end of the year, probably after

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the election. And if that is the case, that might have an impact in

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terms of how the US dollar trades and also into the broader market

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actives and risk appetite. Thank you. You will be coming back later

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to go through the papers. We will be talking the tunnel into Harrods! Not

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for you and me! Still to come, I was dog moved from the Bank of England,

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we will assess what the rate cut means for the British and world

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economies. The you are with Business Live from

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BBC News. The big story in the UK, the Royal Bank of Scotland, which is

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largely owned by taxpayers as revealed it has made a huge loss of

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about ?2 billion of the year. ?2 billion in six months. A bigger loss

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than the city expected and RBS's chief executive Ross McEwan blamed

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legacy issues which he said were still being sorted out. Let's go to

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the news room because Sebastien Crispin joins us. Just how bad? 2

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billion sounds a lot, but how bad in the grand scheme of the numbers?

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Fair to say it's a disappointing set of results per Royal Bank of

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Scotland. The ?2 billion lost the first half of 2016, let's compare to

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the same period in 2015. The bank reported a ?179 million loss so the

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difference between then and now is significant. On top of that, the

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Royal Bank of Scotland is saddled with 1.3 billion of conduct and

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litigation costs. And it means the bank is spending a lot of money

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funding of legal actions and says the staff behaved inappropriately.

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Not a good set of results and the falling share price is a testament

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to that. The boss, Ross McEwan, is about half way through a big

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restructuring plan in the company. What now for RBS? How can it

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progress through the restructure? Important to take a step back and

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know that this is not a good time for banks in general. We have seen

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banking stocks rocked over recent weeks and a string of disappointing

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results coming out the sector. On top of that we had the results from

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the EU stress test which was an exercise by regulators to test the

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resilience of the banking sector and a lot of banks, including RBS, did

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not do well. It's a difficult time generally for banks. RBS is in a

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difficult situation. In 2008, it was bailed out by the government and is

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73% owned by the taxpayer, so it's in a particularly tough situation

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and it's having to rethink the strategy of going forward. Great

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stuff, we appreciate it. We will talk to you again. His first time

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with us. He was good, wasn't he? One more story, this is Beltway, the

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house-builder and it says it expects housing revenue to increase by 27%

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with a bar saying it's too early to assess the effect of the EU

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referendum result. But he says it's been encouraging trading. A very

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robust balance sheet, he says. Go on, I was going to do it. You are

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watching Business Live, and Rio is said to be the biggest money games

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in history ever, despite the barrage of negative muscle that publicity.

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The opening Seredina -- in the opening ceremony is happening at

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midnight, a great time per us UK. You can go out Friday night, come

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back and watch it. I might go out and drink and not remember it. Let's

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have a look at the markets. Reassured, I guess about the Bank of

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England move in some ways. Yes, a little bit and the falling value of

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sterling against the dollar will lift the FTSE 100 because so many of

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those companies are listed there and they make their profits outside of

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the UK so it boosts the value. When they bring the money back in the UK

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they get more bang for their buck. OK. In the last 24 hours the boss of

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the Bank of England Mark Carney launched a huge fiscal programme to

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stave off a Brexit induced recession, so what have they done?

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We know interest rates have been cut from 0.5% to a quarter of a percent.

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It is the lowest interest rate in history, its 322 year history and

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the first that we have seen in seven years. So to make sure that the cut

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is passed on, the bank has introduced a funding scheme. You

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might be asking what that is. With the rates now so low banks are going

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to find it harder to make money off the difference between the rate at

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which they offer borrowers and savings, so as we saw in 2008, weak

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banks are bad news the economy. This scheme will allow banks to borrow

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money on the Bank of England at a lower rate than they would offer

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savers for the same cash. One would imagine it will be near 0.25%. You

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would hope. The central bank will also increase its quantitative

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easing programme which basically means it's going to be creating this

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electronic money and will buy up debt to the tune of $70 billion

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which works out at around ?70 billion, $90 billion. We have Duncan

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Withers, who is the head of the Resolution group. Good to see you.

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Let's start with the idea of the new quantitative easing and corporate

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bonds. It is clearly a favourite tool for the banks to tackle

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lacklustre growth across the world. There is a lot of scepticism, given

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the cost of borrowing at the moment that these measures will have any

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impact. These were new moves from the Bank of England but similar

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something that the European Central Bank did earlier this year. And this

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is the global story at the moment. We are seven years into a recovery

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of recession around the world and it's been a weak recovery and we are

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relying more on Central banks to keep it going and they are doing

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more and more extraordinary things. In some central banks you have a

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negative interest rates. The boss of the Bank of England does not like

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that. He said that a few times. Here is the thing, with the quantitative

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easing programmes we've seen here and in other countries, the whole

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idea is to get the money out in the economy and it ends up to Mary Smith

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and Joe Bloggs, but it doesn't end up to the right people. It ends up

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in the stock markets. Some central banks have been open about this.

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They are saying they are trying to boost the price of financial assets

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and that helps the economy in two ways. It makes it easier for

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companies to raise money and that the holders of the assets feel

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better off and go out and spend more. That's a way of stimulating

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the economy but boosting asset prices as a distributional

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consequence and in simple terms, it benefits people who hold assets, who

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are already richer. They could be holding them in pension funds,

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stocks and shares, and I want to ask you whether these programmes we are

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seeing like quantitive easing really go to address the underlying

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structural issues we have got in the global economy and whether or not

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instead they make it more attractive to make excessive risks. There is an

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issue there. Central banks why not also save assets are pushed the

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price of those up and it means the return on them is low so investors

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around the world have been forced to buy more risky stuff than normal.

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That is what central banks are trying to do, push money into risky

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assets to get the economy moving. There is a potential downside

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because people are running more risk than they want to be. I think we

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have relied very heavily on monetary policy and it might start to change.

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We have seen Canada under a new government spending more. Japan has

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launched fiscal stimulus. We might get a fiscal stimulus in Britain and

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there may be a shift under way in the world towards more government

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spending and less reliance on central banks. Duncan, thank you for

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coming in and taking us through it. In a moment we will be taking a look

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at the business but here's a reminder of how to get in touch. The

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TV and online whenever you need to know. Jeremy is back in the chair

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and we will. -- we will crack on with the story of the retirement

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home in London which is planning a tunnel from it to the Harrods

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department store. It shows you where the level of wealth is. In the

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context of your previous discussion, those with assets benefiting from

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the QA process, the older generation are those that generally have higher

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levels of assets. They clearly have greater levels of wealth and are

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trying to tap into this by the tunnel into the shop. Older

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generations are also savers, and what we see with a cut in interest

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rates, already they are dismal and they will be moored dismal, saving

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rates. They will continue to go down, so the by-product is that

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hopefully that will encourage to spend because you are getting less

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of return on your funds but your funds are actually going down in

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real terms because inflation will go up because of the fall in sterling.

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The idea is to encourage a bit more spending which just means the

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economy will be even more unbalanced. We are expecting to hear

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about the credit rating of Turkey from Moody 's. Extraordinary that

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investors are rushing to Turkey despite what we heard about what is

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going on. In the short term, because investors find it difficult to get

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returns in other markets you have these episodes where you see a great

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deal of uncertainty and markets move and then you get this rush of

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investors moving back in. You try and get the returning Turkey and the

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nominal yields are approaching nine or 10% but that is something we

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don't see elsewhere. That is true. So a chance to make some money. As

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long as you get there quickly enough. Thanks, Jeremy, have a great

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weekend. That is it from Business Live. Plenty more throughout the

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day. See you soon. Today is looking warm across the

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board, mainly because we have lost the strong winds of

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