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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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The Chinese e-commerce site Alibaba dominates the mainland, but it is

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expected to announce a rise in revenues today.

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Live from London, that's our top story on Thursday 11th August.

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Storing your data in the cloud - it's key area of growth

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for the Chinese internet giant Alibaba.

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The firm is also hoping to expand its retail presence

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with Australia at the top of the list.

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We'll be looking at its plans for global expansion.

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Are the curtains falling on China's cinema boom?

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July ticket sales tumbled - adding to the ongoing

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We will explain. European markets have looked like this in the first

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45 minutes of trade, we will have the details.

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And from being an executive at one of the world's biggest advertising

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agencies to setting up a youth summit dubbed the Davos

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We'll find out why founder Kate Robertson moved

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And, apparently we are not going to the movies as much as we were. Have

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you moved online? Let us know - just use the hashtag

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#BBCBizLive. Working the hours that we do, I can

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never stay awake for any film at the cinema!

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We start with the tech giant Alibaba.

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In a few hours, the world's biggest e-commerce firm is expected

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to post strong revenues in its latest results.

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It's based in China but can it fulfil its ambitions of becoming

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Analysts say the online marketplace - a cross between Ebay,

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Amazon and PayPal - will see its revenue for the first

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It's cloud computing business - AliCloud - is expected to be

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Earlier this year it announced it had reached half-a-million

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It now hopes to challenge industry giants like Microsoft

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But its global ambitions go beyond the cloud.

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Alibaba says Australia is also a big part of its expansion plans -

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and it hopes to open an office in Melbourne by the end

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Ben Preston, e-commerce analyst at the consultants

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Then outlining that Alibaba is growing, getting bigger, but what

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about its international plans? You are right, first of all what an

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extraordinary success story it has been. Alibaba is only 17 years old

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and in that relatively short period of time it has grown to become not

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only the largest e-commerce retailer in China but the entire world. As

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they move on, as you rightly say, towards international markets, the

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challenge for them is to replicate challenge for them is to replicate

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the success they have had in China and do that

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in new markets all over again. How will they pull that off? Many of us

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have heard of Alibaba, that is one hurdle, but the other is the fact

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that those of us outside of China are used to Amazon, eBay and others,

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we have got our details with them, we rely on them, trust them. How

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will they move into our world? It is one thing to grow as the market

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leader, quite a different matter to gain customers away from an existing

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market leader. An example, Alibaba tried to enter the US a couple of

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years ago but had no success after a year. Likewise, Amazon try to go

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into China and saw no success. As a customer, once you have got your

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delivery details, credit card details entered, you trust the

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retailer to deliver on time, you need something special to persuade

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you to change your mind. Just because you have success in one

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market, it does not guarantee you can replicated elsewhere. How will

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Alibaba you are as? They will make acquisitions of existing market

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players so they can get existing users. There will also send us

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marketing offers and so forth to try and encourage us. Will it just be

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about price? It cannot just be about price, date have to offer something

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special. Amazon is not just about price, we trust them as retailers.

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As long-term investors we have to identify the retailers that will win

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because they offer price and trust and service and quality all in one

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place. OK, thank you so much for coming in and giving us your views

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on Alibaba, result out later, we will update you when we get them.

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Some of the shine has come off the silver screen in China

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after a 15% fall in cinema attendance in July,

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on top of an ongoing downturn box office takings.

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The slowdown comes in the wake of more than 50% growth last year.

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Ticket sales in the three months to June fell by 10%,

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marking the first drop in as many as five years.

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The UK housing market has weakened following the referendum vote

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to leave the European Union, according to the Royal Institution

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Its July survey points to the biggest drop in transactions

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since the global financial crisis in 2008.

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Prices continued to rise nationally, but at the slowest

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pace in three years - and actually fell in London.

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South Korea's Samsung has denied withholding crucial information

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from workers about chemicals they may have been exposed

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The families of workers say there are about 200 cases

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of employees contracting serious diseases.

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Samsung said the safety of its workers was its

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It says the allegations are not true.

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As always, there are many stories and we cannot cover them all, but if

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you want to get across just about everything in business you can go to

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the Business Live page. This is the company that organises the bottling

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of Coca-Cola soft drinks. It is a FTSE 100 company and has done

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extremely well in the sense that it bottled more than 1 billion cases in

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the last six months in 28 countries. That gave it a sales of 3 billion

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euros, first half profits were roughly flat, though, for the

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Coca-Cola bottling Company. Full details on the website and

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worth looking at this story here, TUI, the biggest travel operator in

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Europe, worries about the failed coup in Turkey there, it worries

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that sales growth this year will be between two and 3% rather than the

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5% previously expected. That is all on our website.

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Singapore has some lacklustre numbers out this morning-its shaved

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off a full 1% from its growth forecast for 2016 -

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and it's now estimated at between 1% to 2%.

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The economy grew by 2.1% in the second quarter

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compared to a year ago, which is also lower than forecast.

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The interesting thing about Singapore, as you can see behind me,

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it is seen as a bellwether for the region, how Singapore is doing.

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Indeed, you are right, it is often among the first to signal a slowdown

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as it is such a financial and trading centre, as you can see from

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all of these buildings behind big, it reflects what is going on

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elsewhere far quicker. The government has cut its economic

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growth forecast to 1%, 2%, it was previously stated as closer to 3%,

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and economists are projecting Singapore could see its slowest pace

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of growth since the financial crisis of 2009, in line with what the

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government has projected as well. Trade and industry blaming concerns

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of a Brexit weakening global growth, also said they are worried about the

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rise in debt default in China, the economy expanded 2.1% in the second

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quarter, slower than initial estimate as well.

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As always, thank you. You saw it on the screen there, but

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confirmation of what the Asian markets did overnight. New

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indications of oversupply in the oil market remaining problem. All of

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that on top of lower global outlook is for growth.

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The dollar also fell against other major currencies overnight

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as expectations of a US rate interest rate hike in the near

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European markets look like this in the first 35 minutes.

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Yesterday was a real mixed session, with the FTSE 100 managing to finish

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the day higher, largely as a result of a weak pound.

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It's a pretty light day for economic data - so make the most of it

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But the latest weekly jobs data is due in the US.

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Samira has the details about what's ahead on Wall Street today.

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The Republican presidential candidate did it on Monday.

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It's time now for the Democratic presidential candidate

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Hillary Clinton will outline her plans for America's economy

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at a manufacturing plant in the state of Michigan.

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The Clinton campaign said the speech will offer a stark contrast

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to Donald Trump's economic policies, which he laid out in a speech before

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Also happening on Thursday, three of the biggest US

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department store operators will be reporting earnings.

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The better weather in June and July is expected to have helped

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the bottom lines of Macy's, Coles and Nordstrom.

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Investors are hoping it will make up for the last quarter,

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where retailers really took a big hit.

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And finally import prices for the month of July.

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Economists are expecting that the strong US dollar

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and weak oil prices put pressure on inflation.

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Touching on a theme for the markets this week, oil prices falling.

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Joining us is Alpesh Patel, chief executive at Praefinium Partners.

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There is a mixture of issues grabbing headlines, we have got the

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effect of quantitative easing in the UK and the effect that is having on

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pension funds here, or your inflation as Samir mentioned. It is

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supposed to be good news, the Bank of England pumping more money into

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the economy, the way it does this, it buys bonds and hopefully the

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people who sold those bonds will put the money into small businesses or

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lend it to consumers. But it is not turning out to be a good news story

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at all because it has driven down bond yields, so if you are a pension

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fund, if you are a pensioner, the return you are getting, there is a

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pension deficit for the big corporate, so that is a negative. We

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thought lower oil prices would be a positive, less cost at the petrol

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pump, but the oil companies are complaining, said that is not a good

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story. Who will invest in alternative energy? These supposedly

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positive stories are telling negative. Do we need to be

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concerned, especially with the negative interest rate story? For

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those people thinking, what does this mean for my pension, if it's

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bad news, is it a short-term thing? I don't think it is short-term. You

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have got two types of companies to get your pension from, those who are

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managing the problem and will say, look, we might end the final salary

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pension scheme in years to come, so it does not affect you directly, it

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affects future generations. Then other companies, you have seen

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it with people like, I will not name corporate names because it can lead

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to worry, but you have seen other companies not managing it so well,

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those with big pension deficits, their employees, their pensioners

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should be worried, I'm afraid. Thank you, more from you a little bit

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later when we look at the papers. Could children succeed

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where their parents have failed? We meet the woman behind Junior

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Davos. With 1300 young leaders from nearly

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200 countries, can they solve some Founder Kate Robertson

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will be here. This is Business Live from BBC News.

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You may have heard of smart cities, but what are they?

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They could be on their way sooner than we think.

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The national mapping agency Ordnance Survey has begun two-year

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trial to try and turn Manchester into the UK's first Smart City.

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But what does this mean exactly and how does a city become smart?

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Simon Navin is leading the Project on Smart Cities

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What is a smart city? They are really in response to global trends

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like population increase, where we are likely to see over 50% of

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citizens living in cities in the near future, increasing pressure on

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public services. In the UK we have seen great work in cities like

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Glasgow, Milton Keynes, Bristol, Greenwich, to work with an internet

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of things technology to deliver public services in response to those

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trends. There is a project in Manchester which is about to

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commence with Ordnance Survey are proud to be part of which will

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deliver the UK's first demonstrator site for internet of things

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technology and Smart City technology. Why Manchester? It was

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part of the bid process, a consortium of public and private

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companies that came together, it is focused on a digital environment, it

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will involve the citizens of Manchester to help devise solutions

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that are needed, and it is very vibrant, it will be interesting for

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the people of Manchester to become involved. How long will it take and

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when will it be really smart as opposed to a city in transition and

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therefore perhaps a bit frustrating? Cities are living and breathing so

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these things take time, this is a two-year project which started in

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July and lots of solutions will be tried and tested, researched and

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developed, and some of those will go live, some of

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them will take longer to mature. At the end of the project the idea is

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the solutions can be used elsewhere in the UK and showcase our talent

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around the world as well. I bet that wasn't helping your anger

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management. It was frustrating. We are looking at housing data on the

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website. If you want to know more, dig deep.

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You're watching Business Live - our top story...

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The Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba is dominating on the mainland in

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China but what about the rest of the world? It is expected to report a

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massive rise in revenue. A quick look at how

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markets are faring.... Today in Europe it's a mixed

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picture, they started a little higher and now they have dipped

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slightly. The FTSE is leading the losers. Japan is closed today for a

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public holiday. It's the annual meeting of global

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business leaders and politicians - and a few celebs, who get together

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to thrash out answers to some of the People like us have been seen there

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as well! But it's often criticised

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for failing to agree any real, So could it be the turn

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of the younger generation to solve was the Global President and UK

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Chairman of international marketing and advertising group Havas

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Worldwide. And went on to create a youth summit

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that has been called leaders the opportunity to meet

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with counterparts from every country It's attended by 1300 young people

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from 196 countries who discuss And this year's gathering

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is just around the corner, in September,and takes place

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in Ottawa in Canada. Kate is here. Welcome to business

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live. Why did you come up with the idea? I was frustrated by a lack of

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leadership in the world, since we started five or six years ago it was

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quite obvious in the world that there is not a lot of leadership and

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being originally South African myself and seeing that people like

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Mandela and Tutu can genuinely lead as opposed to just occupying a post

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at the head of government, it is there. This age group is the most

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educated and connected in history and among them are leaders already

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anyway with immense power to affect change. If you look at global

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business, it's been coming out of that age group for the Las Vegas

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years. They are not there to be ignored and treated as office

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juniors the way I was, it's a different time, and this age group

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is a different animal. What do you hope to achieve? What would be a

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tangible result? When I have been at Davos in the past... You have been!

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I have, but there is not much achieved. A lot of talking but not

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much action. The networking is the highest quality in the world and the

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average global CEO goes there over two days to see every government

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leader that he needs to see. It's a different thing. The problem with my

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age group and that age group at Davos is that it is done already.

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The age group that we deal with, under 13, are effecting change

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themselves, they are frustrated with a lack of change and they are able

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to affect change on a great scale. What we are looking for is that this

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is not a youth summit, this is young leaders and many of them are already

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leading and if we can help them to scale back in any way, and also

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inspire that, then a lot will happen. -- scale that. When we were

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talking earlier you were explaining the issues that they are discussing

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this year and it was not what I was expecting. Explain what they will be

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grappling with in September. They have focused on LGBT which is only

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the second time it has come up and it has never been the headline

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article for human rights. In education, the second time they have

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come up, they wanted to discuss education as we know today which is

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not preparing them for the modern workplace, you know about the coding

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story. There is a strong view on that. Those are global values. We

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have delegates from Tuvalu, Kiribati, this is the only place in

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the world you will see those countries. They deeply care about

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the migration crisis and Syria and the fact that global leaders are not

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resolving the problems. All of them are very aware that something ought

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to have been done and could have been done to prevent the cataclysm

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in Syria and it was a lack of leadership on the global stage.

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Let's point the finger at Russia and the USA at the moment, just to

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shorthand it. There was a lack of leadership and look at what

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happened. If people want to get involved, I believe I am too old

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because it is 18-30... It's OK. It's around ?3000 for people to go, who

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are people who can afford to take part? We sponsor almost 200

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scholarships to attend out of our own pocket, so we fund all of that.

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That enables us to get the small countries and also people from, I

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hate disadvantaged backgrounds, because when you see these young

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leaders, you think that they may be disadvantaged by background but you

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are sure a different thing now. This is taking place next month in

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Canada. It is nice to see you. I am definitely over the hill as far as

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that's concerned! Let's move on. Hillary Clinton, unveils her plans

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for the US economy. Mrs Clinton will be

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speaking in Detroit. This is just days after her rival

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Donald Trump went to the same to city to lay

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out HIS economic proposals. So how do the two candidates plans

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for the US economy compare? These reforms will offer

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the biggest tax revolution Which unleashed years of continued

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economic growth and job creation. They tried to make his old,

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tired ideas sound new, but here's what we all know

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because we heard it again, his tax plans will give superb big

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tax breaks to large corporations There has been a 15% fall in ticket

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sales at the cinema in China. I went three times last week. In one week!

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What did you see? I went to see an Indian film, Suicide Squad, and I

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can't even Lambert the third one. They were mind numbingly, you can

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switch your brain off, they are not arty farty like the ones you would

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like! Going to the cinema three times in a week! He is managing my

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fund. It is normally at midnight, you talk about declining numbers but

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there are late showings at cinemas now and you have got insurance

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companies giving you free tickets, I have two sets of companies giving me

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free tickets. It is about switching off and forgetting about everything.

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Justine says, eating stale popcorn and flat soda and listening to other

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people's phone, why pay for that privilege? That sounds like home not

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a cinema! A bill to clean up nuclear reactors, this is a story in the

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Times will stop it has gone up by ?1.6 billion. What is the story? --

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in the Times. This is about decommissioning power plans, talking

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about Hinckley in the UK, and the Chinese and French relationship,

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this is about getting rid of the old ones. Decommissioning sounds very

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important, but we are talking about getting rid of things like asbestos

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and the cost has gone up and up as is often the case with big

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contracts. It is easy to blame the government but I blame the private

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sector, how can they get away with saying it will cost X but then they

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find that it costs more money? A private contract tells you they

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deliver a cost and they had better do that. I think it has decreased in

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recent years because what the government has done is got in

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professional negotiators, the nuclear decommissioning unit in the

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government, this is a problem, but I blame the private sector and not

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government officials who have been blindsided. Never one to mince his

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words. We will be in the same place at the same time tomorrow. Goodbye.

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