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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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Raising a glass to a mega drinks deal.

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The world's two biggest brewers are set to complete

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their merger today - creating a giant that will control

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Live from London, that's our top story on Monday,

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The deal between Anheuser-Busch InBev and SABMiller is one

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of the biggest ever seen in the drinks industry.

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We'll assess what it means for the sector and consumers.

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Also in the programme, is Samsung suspending production

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of its Galaxy Note 7 smartphone after a series of fires?

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We'll be checking that out with our Asia Business hub.

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Down again, as HSBC forecasts the pound could hit 1.10 dollars.

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We were here from a top scientist who says his DNA analysis device

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holds the key to stopping the rise of the superbug and deadly diseases.

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And the virtual messaging service Snapchat is said to be readying

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itself for market location next year. Some say it is worth $25

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billion. Is it another example of an overpriced social media phenomena or

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do you think it is worth it? Use the hashtag.

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It's more than likely that by the end of the day the world's

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two largest brewers will be saying cheers to a mega-merger that leads

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to one company controlling nearly a third of the worlds beer market.

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So what does the tie up of Anheuser-Busch InBev

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and SABMiller mean for the industry and beer drinkers?

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Well, it's a deal worth $104 billion dollars -

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and as I mentioned combines the world's two biggest brewers.

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The newly-created firm will produce about a third of the world's beer.

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Belgium-based AB InBev's brands include Stella Artois,

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Corona and Budweiser, while UK-based SABMiller produces

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But not only will the name SABMiller go in the take over -

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Over the next few years AB InBev is expected to gradually cut

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about 3%, that's around 5,500 jobs - from its enlarged workforce.

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The job cuts will form part of an annual savings drive amounting

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to some 1.4 billion dollars - and despite the newly formed company

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having a 30% market share, the competition in the beer

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All mass-market brewers are looking to cut production and distribution

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costs in the face of rivalry from smaller independent brands

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I'm joined by the Alcoholic Drinks Analyst, Anne. The ink is drying on

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the deal. Tel us what the couples had to do to pass completion rules?

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There is a lot they had to give up to make it work, China and the US,

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they had to give up SAB Miller showing the joint ventures. It was

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always going to be tense, in terms of passing regulations. In Europe,

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SABMiller's brands have mostly had to go. It focuses the acquisition on

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emerging markets like Latin America. The two coming together, it makes

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the world's biggest, controlling a third of the market. Is that a

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concern for the market in general, the likes of Heineken and others

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really concerned? It will make quite a difference. I don't think there

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will be overly concerned. When you look at the market level, there will

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not be too much change to patterns of competition. Now they have passed

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the regulations, the overlap between SABMiller's countries and

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Anheuser-Busch InBev, there is not much overlap. Heineken and Carlsberg

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are going to be competing, market by market. What will they get on with

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first, as a newly merged company question mark element the cost

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savings is going to be key. There is a lot of work to be done, joining

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such huge companies. In the short term there will be focused on making

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it work. In the long term we have brands like Budweiser, they might

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consider putting that into a new markets. We will watch this space

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closely. You are an alcoholic drinks analyst, do you have to test it all,

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try at all? Occasionally! It is early in the morning, so completely

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with it. The entertainment company co-owned

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by Hollywood director, Steven Spielberg, is to join forces

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with a major Chinese Amblin will join with

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the Alibaba Group to produce films Alibaba Pictures, which is led

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by the e-commerce billionaire Jack Ma, will take a minority stake

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in Amblin as part of the agreement. Facebook paid $5.28 million in UK

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corporation tax last year, as it expanded its business

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in the UK. It is a big increase

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on the $5,500 paid in 2014, which prompted an outcry

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from campaigners who argued it But critics may still be riled

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by the fact that the company will receive a tax credit

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of $14 million, which can The firm said it was "proud" to have

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grown its business in the UK. The Korean electronics giant Samsung

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is suspending production of its flagship smartphone -

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that's according to The Galaxy Note 7 has made

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headlines, following reports that Leisha Chi has been

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following the story. Reuters is picking up on this, as

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well. What is the latest? Well, it looks like Samsung is in major

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damage control. Shares today fell by as much as 5% before closing 2%

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lower on these reports of them halting production of the Samsung

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Galaxy Note seven. It is the most expensive device. Customers said

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there were safety problems with replacement phones, the ones being

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given in exchange for the faulty ones with exploding batteries.

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Samsung issued a statement saying that they are making temporary

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adjustments to the production schedule and that they planned to

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conduct more in-depth inspections and improve quality control. There

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are concerns. We have seen AT and T Mobile stopping the sale of the

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Galaxy Note 7 because of the batteries catching fire. We have

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already seen 2.5 million units recalled. The crisis looks far from

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over. Thank you, as always. A quick look at the numbers, in Tokyo, the

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In Tokyo, the Nikkei is closed for a public holiday -

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and in Hong Kong, trade was pretty thin because of

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Samsung Electronics one of the biggest losers -

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as that Galaxy Note 7 crisis resurfaced.

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This is what Europe looks like right now.

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The weak pound giving another boost to the FTSE100 - we'll talk more

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HSBC are saying it could hit parity with the euros and $1.10.

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and Michelle's got details of what's ahead on Wall Street this week.

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Bank profits will be in the spotlight towards the end of the

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week, even though Wall Street is betting the Federal Reserve will

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hike in December. Lower interest rates are continuing to squeeze the

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financial sector's ability to make money. As a result, JPMorgan Chase

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is poised to report a decline in third-quarter profits this Thursday.

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Scandal over accounts at Wells Fargo is also likely to cast a shadow over

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earnings. The third-quarter earnings season kicks off in earnest earlier

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in the week, when image major metal company announces its results. A

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busy week for economic data, with reports on retail sales and factory

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output. We are joined by James Bevan. Nice

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to see you. A lot going on today. Lots of bits of news coming out. The

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pound is sinking today. What is grabbing your attention? The weak

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pound is going to make it really difficult for the Government to fund

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the deficit. It will make it worse before it gets better, a big worry

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for the economy. The pound is down to $1.23, HSBC forecasts it could go

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as low as $1.10. Parity with the euro, is that the stage we are at?

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HSBC are leading the charge on how low it will go, I am on $1.15. It is

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clear to keep the economy going we will have to have a weaker economy

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and interest rates remain very low. As the Deutsche Bank, shares down

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3%. We keep talking about this deal that the boss will broker with the

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boss in the United States, but it is not coming? It is not just a problem

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of the deal, it is a real challenge in the European banking system. They

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are just not making profits. It is really hard for banks to make money

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in the current very tough regulatory environment, in a climate where

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Europe has negative interest rates. When it comes to what can be done,

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we are seeing anecdotal evidence about companies looking overseas,

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about whether places like Frankfurt are trying to steal the lead on

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London as a result of the Brexit vote. Then we see big changes in the

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value of the pound, what can be done? Is it out of the hands of the

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policymakers? Absolutely not. We need Mr Hannan to step up to the

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table at the Autumn Statement and say, guys, I'm going to take the

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policy steps necessary to keep the boat afloat. He can most certainly

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spend money, he can turn away from austerity, he can commit to fast

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growth of the UK economy. That would be very good news in terms of both

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market sentiment and non-domestic investors thinking more broadly

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about what lies ahead for the UK. Thank you very much for your

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contribution. He will be back to talk about Snapchat, Facebook and

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other stories. Let us know if you think it is worth the valuation.

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Don't use Snapchat, because it will disappear and ten seconds and we

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will not see it. Halting the rise of the superbug -

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we look at new technology being used in the fight against global disease

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- and the company behind it, You're with Business Live from BBC

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News Did RBS squeeze struggling companies

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it was supposed to be helping - That's the allegation

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based on an investigation Confidential documents show that RBS

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sought to profit by buying up assets cheaply from struggling businesses

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and bank staff could boost bonuses Lawrence Tomlinson wrote a report

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into the issue. Just explain what happened in your instance. Good

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morning. I wrote a report, basically outlining exactly what Buzzfeed are

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saying. That RBS crushed British businesses purely for profit. This

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that have been leaked. It has been that have been leaked. It has been

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rumbling on for some time. What are you expecting to happen now? My

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report was written three years ago and the FCA having doing an

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investigation for three years. It is about time that came out. It is also

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about time Ross McEwing put his hands up to this and said, you know,

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GIG was a pretty bad unit and look at some kind of redress scheme for

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the businesses damaged. We are talking about something like 15,000

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British businesses that went through the department, that they claimed

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was not for profit. According to the secret documents, into thousand and

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11, they made $1.1 billion for the bank. -- in 2011. We must mention

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the RBS statement. In a statement RBS has acknowledged

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that it could and should have done It went on to say that

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"Despite a number of investigations that involved a detailed review

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of all the evidence, including reviewing millions

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of pages of documents, we have seen nothing to support

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the allegations that the bank artificially distressed otherwise

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viable SME businesses or deliberately caused

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them to fail". In regard to GRG the bank also said

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"Nor did it buy their assets That is the official RBS response to

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that story. Gatwick bosses possibly building a second runway, even if it

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does not get the expansion, it goes to Heathrow, they might build

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another one anyway? Big week for news on that, stay tuned.

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The world's two biggest brewing companies are set

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It's a tie up between Anheuser-Busch InBev

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and SABMiller is worth $104 billion and would create

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a company controlling a third of the global beer market.

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I remember when it was announced 13 months ago and there was the

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discussion about whether it will happen because it is huge? Well, the

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ink is drying! A quick look at how

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markets are faring. Medical advances take

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time, and money. But our next guest says

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the technology his firm makes is revolutionising the way

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scientific research Oxford Nanopore Technologies

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specialises in DNA sequencing or cataloguing the order

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of molecular building blocks. To do this the bio-tech firm has

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developed a pocket sized device that can be used on all living things,

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from human beings to bacteria. The Minion device is a portable DNA

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sequencer which has huge potential in markets such as food and water

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monitoring, healthcare, The goal of the company

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is to enable the analysis of any living thing,

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by any person, in any environment . In August 2016, Nasa performed

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DNA sequencing in space on the International Space Station

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using the Minion device. Oxford Nanopore Technologies is now

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valued at over $1 billion. Dr Gordon Sanghera, CEO

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of Oxford Nanopore Technologies. Nice to see you. Welcome. And he is

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warmed with the device. What is it? How does it work? Show us the

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device. So this is the world's first and only portable DNA sequencer. So

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we can get DNA information live in real-time. What's it telling you

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now? It isn't telling me anything. You would put a swab, a blood sample

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or a urine sample or an environmentalal sample from a

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reservoir and you would apply it here like a drop of blood and in

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real-time, it will give you DNA information. No other technology can

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do that. All existing technologies today are large central laboratory

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facilities. That take many, many days. What is that replacing? Give

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us a sense of the scale of something that would be in a lab versus that

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port bli? The best analogy is to think about now the technology

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evolved for digital photography. So in the old days we had a reel of

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film. Woe sent it off to -- we sent it off to a central facility, Boots,

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big machines around the back whirring a week away taking a week

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or so to get your film back. This is like digital photography which means

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it is real-time and it is like the ability to have so much more power

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in real-time. Where can that information go to? Can it go to your

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portable device? If you are in the middle of Africa and you are trying

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to get a sense of the environment you're in or the dangers around you

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or disease or what have you, can you get it sent to your portable device?

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It is indeed. It can be plugged into a laptop and run locally on a laptop

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and it was used in Africa to look at Ebola and it is being used to track

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Zika. The key element is the real-time nature so we're tracking

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and trending in real-time, not after the event. And then we're having to

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try and shutdown particularly when you think about something like Zika

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where the spread of infection is going very quickly. We touched on in

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this the introduction, but to get the medical advances, you need time

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and money. You have been successful in attracting money. How do you

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explain that to your investors in terms of the practical applications

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for? Where would it be used and what difference will it make? So we've

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raised, we have been around for 11. We have 300 people, we are not a

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start-up. This is not some idea of when will it come? This is

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commercially available. We have invested ?350 million. Now 11 years

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ago when we spoke to traditional venture capital companies, firms,

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who have a three to five year turn around time, this was a bigger play

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and they were fortunate to get investors who saw the long-term

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view, the disruptive nature, how this could be a game changer. How we

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could start to fight the rise of superbugs, how we can track and

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trend and control things like Zika and they bought into the idea of

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patient capital to make a big technology play in the UK. Is it

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selling now and is it making money for those that invested 11 years

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ago? It is. We are in the foot hills of commercialisation. We launched

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the product 15 months ago. So who are your clients? The bulk of market

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is researchers, early adopters, people who do genetic research in

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laboratories, but we believe quickly the technology will leapfrog into

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applied markets. And once the clients have got this and saturated

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that market, do you have something else that you will develop? So two

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things, the way to think about the market today for researchers, there

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are 8,000 large central laboratory DNA sequencers. In our first year

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we've placed 3,000 of these. There are probably 100,000 molecular

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biologists who would want one of these to do desk top manipulation of

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DNA measurement, trending and tracking. So there is a huge market

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just in the research markets, but when you think about for example we

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had the problem with an infection of water in Preston. Having real-time

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DNA information along that supply chain from the reservoir to your tap

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would mean that you would prevent such outbreaks. So the applied

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markets are going to be absolutely huge for this kind of technology.

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It is fascinating stuff. It really is. I've learnt a lot this morning.

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Really nice to see you. The Chief Executive of Oxford Nanopore

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Technologies. Thank you very much. In a moment we'll take a look

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Ben is taking charge of the tablet! Sally hadn't loaded the stories. .

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James is back. Are you a Snapchat user? No. . Why could it be worth

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?25 billion? The capacity for companies like this to generate

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significant revenues from advertising and cash payment, you

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can send money through Snapchat and access stories which have been

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stored from your friends and the expectation is that ads will be

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slithered into the news flow and both of those can generate

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substantial revenues. With Snapchat, they are not making revenues right

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now, but they have loads and loads of users... They are not making

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profits. But they have many, many users? Quite right. The story for

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all investors to contemplate is how much money can they make and how

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quickly can it roll out? We will talk about Facebook in a MinION, but

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it is very clear that Facebook surprised a lot of people myself

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included, as who how quickly they can ramp up revenues and exceeding

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analysts estimates quarter after quarter. I remember we were cynical

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when Facebook was floated. I was as well, were you Ben? I mean, let's

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talk Facebook 11 million tax credit it is going to get after vowing to

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pay more to the taxman. It is paying more tax, but it will be able to off

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set some later on. Well, there has been a change this the tax code and

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HMRC are acting properly. The Government set the rule book. This

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is to do with the setting aside money for an options scheme as part

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of remuneration, so it is legitimate. But there is a global

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issue about how much tax these entities should be paying anyway.

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This is about what Facebook is paying in the UK. It is the UK

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Government chasing after Facebook, but it is a global organisation and

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it is a hot subject here and in many countries around the world. It is

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because companies have demonstrated that they put shareholder value

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first. They will pay legitimate taxes, but they will use the law to

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pay as little tax as possible and countries generally compete in order

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to have companies in their jurisdictions so we have a

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relatively low corporation tax. You think back to the austerity that we

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faced in the UK. It has been borne by people who have lost jobs, by

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private individuals who've been paying more tax, companies actually

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have been paying less tax as a rate. Another day, another warning on

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Brexit. This time Wall Street bosses weighing into this. JP Morgan and

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Morgan Stanley potentially looking elsewhere for their business, not

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necessarily just Frankfurt because we sort of are assuming Frankfurt

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would be where financial services would go to? Frankfurt have been

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blowing the trumpet saying guys you should come here. So has Paris. New

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York will be a very hot place for these companies to operate because

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they are American. They have a lot of businesses out there already, why

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do they need to be in the UK? What about the Far East? Many of them

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have businesses in the Far East. Of course, in a 24 hour global

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business, you have to pass the buck from office to office to office

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which includes significant exposure in the Far East. If you said where

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should investors be contemplating, it is developing markets with new

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market emergence. You made it snappy. We got there in the end when

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the tablet was loaded! Hello there. Another pretty chilly

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week in store. In fact, things are set to turn cooler as the week wears

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