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This is Business Live from BBC News with Sally Bundock and Rachel Horne.

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China's economy is ticking along with growth at 6.7%,

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but what about the country's mounting debt problem?

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Live from London, that's our top story on Wednesday, 19th October.

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China is fuelling the move to consumer-driven economy

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Also in the programme, and not such a Hollywood ending,

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box office superstar Leonardo DiCaprio says he's

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cooperating with an investigation into Malaysian state fund 1MDB.

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Minister kets in Europe don't know which direction to go. They were up

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and now they're down. We'll talk you through the winners and losers.

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And we're talking wine - the UK's oldest merchant

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Berry Brothers and Rudd started popping corks more than 300 years

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ago and have been supplying the UK's Royal Family since the 17th century

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- we'll ask the boss how the company is staying relevant and keeping

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So today we want to know - if you can't make

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money at the bank would you invest it in your wine rack?

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It is never too early for a glass of good quality wine on Business Live!

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New growth figures from China has added to a raft of indicators

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suggesting the Asian powerhouse is becoming addicted

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The world's second largest economy grew at an annualised rate of 6.7%

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As we've been reporting, the country's growth rate has slowed

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significantly since hitting double digits five years ago.

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It is now at its slowest rate

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The figures underline China's difficulty of transforming

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the economy away from factories and exports towards consumption

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to help drive up wages and living standards.

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Now while government debt in China may appear to be relatively low,

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corporate debt stands at a worrying 145% GDP.

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One of the major issues is that State-owned businesses actually

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account for more than half of that debt pile and Chinese banks are now

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holding more and more loans from those companies that are either

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in default or close to being in default.

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We can cross live now to Shanghai and speak to our

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Robin thank you for joining us. The figures seem to give the impression

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that China's economy is stabilising, but is there anything else going on

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behind the scenes? Well, it is still growing, but still slowing is the

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overall picture. What we have is an economy where there is evidence that

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the Chinese Government through its policies seems to be stabilising the

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big picture and managing to shift away from an investment-led economy,

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focussing on exports and towards a more consumption-led domestically

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driven economy. Consumption accounting for over 70% of growth in

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the last quarter. That's a big jump on the similar period in the year

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before. So that is something that the Chinese Government will be very

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happy about, but dig a bit deeper and it is a familiar story.

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Infrastructure investment from central Government ticking up in

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that same three month period. That's evidence yet again that perhaps the

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fuel, the significant fuel in this engine of growth, is still money

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coming from central Government and being filtered down to provincial

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Government in big infrastructure projects and that's something that

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China is trying to move away from, but not too quickly because, of

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course, here in communist China Government spending is still so, so

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dominant. Robin, quite often when we talk about China and we look at

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Chinese figures, there is a question over the reliability of the figures

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that are issued, what's the feeling about today's figures? There is

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consistent criticism and eyebrows raised about the accuracy, even the

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veracity of figures like this. The Chinese Government won't like it.

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There has been criticism in the past of media like us and others who

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question the statistics, but look, for three-quarters in a row now, the

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Chinese Government has released official figures showing that growth

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is at exactly 6.7%. It is very close to the official Government target of

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between 6.5% and 7.5% growth overall for 2016. They have never had this

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back-to-back consistency before and many people suspect that it is just

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frankly too good to be true. Just last month the former chief

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economist at the IMF told the BBC that he thought a truer figure was

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around 3% growth in this country. So look, we raise concerns and we ask

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questions about the figure, but the Chinese Government insist they are

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accurate, but there are many who see this, three-quarters in a row, spot

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on 6.7%, it is convenient, isn't it? Robin Brant, in Shanghai, thank you

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very much for joining us this morning.

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Yahoo's profits more than doubled to $163 million in the third quarter

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The numbers provide some reassurance to investors after it was revealed

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that 500 million customers had their accounts hacked.

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These are the first financial results since Verizon

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announced its plan to buy the tech company for $4.8 billion.

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Shares in Sharp have risen by more than 10% after the loss making

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Japanese company announced it expects full year profits

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to "improve significantly" compared to last year.

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The electronics firm was snapped up by Taiwanese manufacturer Foxconn

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for $3.5 billion in July after going through two major

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South Korean prosecutors are reportedly poised

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to file corruption charges against the chairman of one

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of the country's most influential conglomerates,

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It's alleged Shin Dong-bin, together with his father and brother

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committed offences worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

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There is a lot going on on the markets this morning. Some

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eye-catching movers on the London markets. We can see some shares are

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down. BHP Billiton down 0.7%. That's despite the fact that some commodity

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prices seem to be coming back up. Falling commodity prices have been a

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story for the last year or so. BHP Billiton seeing early signs of

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market recovery. Oscar-winning star Leonardo DiCaprio

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says he is aiding authorities with the ongoing investigation

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into Malaysian state Christine Hah is in Singapore

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and has the details. Well, as you know the Department of

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Justice in the US filed a civil suit back in July. They want to get back

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about $1.3 billion which they say is money that came from the Malaysian

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state fund and channelled into US assets like paintings, luxury

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apartments, a private jet and investment into the Leonardo

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de-Capri owe's film The Wolf Of Wall Street, even though he's

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co-operating, when he won a Golden Globe he personally thanked the

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people implicated people in the suit a the person who runs the production

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company. So a little bit of life imitating art there! Very

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interesting. Christine, thank you very much. The plot thickens on that

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story. A mixed picture in Asia, but I have

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to say, markets around the world really relieved about the numbers

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coming out of China. Robin mentioning some of the challenges

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and scepticism about the numbers still. There was no surprises or

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shocks. So Japan and Hong Kong, everywhere else relatively flat. We

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had the oil price heading upwards. Let's look at Europe. Just to have a

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sense of how things are going. All headed south at the moment. Rachel

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rattling through the winners and losers for the FTSE 100. Of course,

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we've got the UK jobless figures coming out later today. We will talk

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about the issues in Europe in a moment.

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Samira Hussain has the details about what's ahead on Wall Street Today.

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The third and final US Presidential debate takes place on Wednesday in

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Las Vegas. It will be moderated by Fox News and the topics will include

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debt, entitlements and the immigration and the economy. Lots of

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companies will be reporting earnings on Wednesday. In financials, we will

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hear from Morgan Stanley and like other big banks, Morgan Stanley has

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been cutting costs to try and make up for lower profits. Oil companies

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Kinder Morgan and Hallliburton will be reporting earnings. The two have

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been hit by low oil prices and falling demand. And finally, online

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retailer eBay saw traffic from online searches increase for the

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first time in nearly six quarters. Attracting more shoppers to its

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website. And that will be welcome news for investors who will be

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looking for updates on the company's outlook ahead of the holiday

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shopping season. Sue Noffke, UK Equities Fund

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Manager at Schroders. We will look at UK figures. Lots of

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figures out for the UKment we had inflation figures out yesterday, up

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1%. A steep rise. Unemployment figures due out today. What are we

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expecting and how is sterling reacting? Well, I think, everyone is

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trying to pick through the figures to find that evidence of Brexit. And

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what was interesting in yesterday's inflation data was that we weren't

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seeing very much other than the rise in oil which has been independent,

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but of course, it is priced in dollars. So that's been adding to

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inflationary pressures from a very low base. If we look to employment

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data, this will be the second most post the decision to leave the EU

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that we get. Last month's figures were surprisingly steady. So it is a

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question of do we carry on in this steady vain or do we start to see

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some of the business nervousness that's been talked about actually

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come through in the figure as soon as Some of the fears is about

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inflation, is about the weakness of the pound, all these things and the

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effects it will have on the UK economy and that jump in inflation,

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more than expected, kind of fuel those fears a bit, do you think or

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not? No. I think we know that it takes sometime for sterling's

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depression to feed through into the inflation numbers. I think it is

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around what policy responses are we going to get? The Bank of England

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tends to look through any increase that comes from currency moves

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through to inflation. In terms of holding monetary policy fairly

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steady. I would expect that's what the Bank of England will do this

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time as well. What we will have to see is what happens to wages and

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employment. Because if we start to see wage pressures and that feed

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through on top of sterling's depression to inflation then I think

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the Bank of England has a tougher job to do. OK. Sue, those figures

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out at 9.30am UK time. So out in 45 minutes. I wouldn't want to be Mark

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Carney right now or Philip Hammond for that matter!

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Still to come, what makes a winning wine?

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We'll be speaking to one of the UK's oldest merchants to find out.

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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The jobless figures are out in 45 minutes time.

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Official figures this morning will show how many

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people are out of work - with the government pushing

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companies to do more to recruit workers from within the UK.

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Many businesses say they are doing just that.

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Victoria Fritz is at one such factory in Birmingham with more.

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Hello there. Yes, that's right. They're currently a record number of

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people in work in Britain. Over 31 million people in Britain actually

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have jobs. Over 28 million of those are UK nationals which leaves about

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3.5 million that are classified by the Office for National Statistics

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as non-UK nationals and it is that group and the businesses that employ

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them that have found themselves at the centre of a fierce debate over

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immigration, economic immigration and whether or not there should be

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restrictions to who can apply for jobs in this country? Now this

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company, it is a factory in Birmingham. It makes cooling systems

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for everything from buses and coaches to things like military

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vehicles as well. It is exporting to 28 countries across the world. About

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22% of the business is actually staffed by people who were born

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overseas and the boss has been telling me that without that mix, he

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would face skills shortages right across the business from here on the

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shop floor all the way up to the level of senior thermal engineers.

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He says without that mix, without access to people from across the EU,

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and elsewhere, he wouldn't be able to develop next gun ration products

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things like the thermal systems that are going to go into the next

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generation of electric vehicles. So he's concerned about some of the

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comments that came out from the Tory Party conference earlier on in the

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month that there maybe some kind of restriction on access to people from

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abroad. This is an issue that's a very emotive, it is an emotive issue

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as well as a practical one and one that's been discussed by businesses

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from the shop floor through to management level across the country.

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Those employment figures are coming out at 9.30am. So stay tuned.

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That was Victoria. We've got results in from Hotel

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Chocolat. Their revenue is up. The top story today: the Chinese

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economy is growing at a rate of 6.7%.

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analysts warn it could be storing up problems for the future.

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Let's have a look at the markets. The European markets slightly in the

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red. The figures from China gave a bit of stability. We can see that

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they are trading ever so slightly down. Keep an eye on the pound. It

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might move. Now, it's time for Inside Track

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and today we are focusing Berry Bros Rudd is one

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of UK's oldest businesses. Founded in 1698 -

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the merchant started supplying Britain's royals with wine

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during the reign of King George III - and are still the official

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suppliers to Buckingham Palace. Today, Berry Bros sells a range

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of over 3,000 wines that are sourced from over 25 countries

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around the world. Statistics based

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on a survey conducted by Wine Intelligence show that 25%

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of the UK's nearly 30 million regular wine drinkers ordered wine

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on the internet last year. So is this the future

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of wine-selling? Dan Jago, Chief Executive

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of Berry Brothers and Rudd is here. Good morning. We paused the question

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about how important the Internet is. Were you the UK's first merchant to

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go online? Yes, back in the early 90s. It was pretty revolutionary.

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You could order wine online and have it delivered. We are still doing

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that today. The way you came is an interesting story, you had gone to

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Tesco as wine director and then you went to Berry Bros. How did you find

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it crossing the fence? I've not worked out whether it is put your

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turned gamekeeper or the other around. -- poacher. I worked with

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Tesco, and when I was told, do you want to take on the biggest wine

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buying job in the world it was quite hard to decline. Very different

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businesses. One was about entrepreneurialism and the other was

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about consistency. But in both cases it has been customer focused. Most

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retailing is about customers and people. It is interesting you should

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say that. In the news at the moment there is talk of tension between

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suppliers and supermarkets, especially with the devaluation of

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the pound and what that means. Take us through that. We always get the

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impression the relationship is not good between Tesco and suppliers.

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The buyer and the seller will always have a convert of relationship. --

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combative relationship. I really enjoyed it and our suppliers

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realised we were a business aiming to do the best job for customers. We

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have enthusiastic negotiations with our suppliers for similar regions.

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Let's talk about sterling. It has been falling. Have you felt the

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impact? It has been marginal so far. If you go back a few years the

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exchange rate was roughly the same. It is not somewhere we've been

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before but the speed has caught everybody by surprise. It is going

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to have to happen. If we get stability we will predict for the

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future. Most of your sales are for individuals. Just over half. Two

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used order wine for them and people can sell each other's wine. We have

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a unique thing called PBX. It is an exchange. We have a lovely shared

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down in Basingstoke. It is very glamorous. -- storage facility. We

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keep wine there and we allowed customers to sell to other

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customers. We want to know about Buckingham Palace. What are you

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allowed to tell us. It's just down the road. Quite close. We want to

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know about their drinking habits. My chairman, the seventh generation

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chairman, is keeper of the Queen's wine cellar. I'm sure he's not

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allowed to tell anything. He doesn't tell me anything! But we are very

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proud of having a warrant and we have had it since the 17th century.

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What is the most expensive wine you've got? We've got a Magnum of

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Burgundy for ?16,000. I think it is a collectors item. So little of it

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was made and it is a wine that everybody wants. We could talk for

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hours. Thank you for your time. Throughout the week we've been

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hearing personal stories of workers and entrepreneurs who are driving

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what is known as the gig economy. Over the last year Brazil

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has seen a huge jump in its unemployment rate -

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and this type of freelance work has helped many

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there to keep earning an income. We hear from two people who say

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the gig economy is working for them. I love the fact that she can stay at

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home with her dog. We ask you at the beginning of the programme, you

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invest in the finer things? Interest rates, some of you have been getting

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in touch. We've had a tweet from Sonia seeing she would invest your

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money in guilt tracker funds. Andy says peer-to-peer lending sites have

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been around since 2006, at the time they were seen as very

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revolutionary, now it's a standard recess. One of you did mention wine.

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We should have spoken about that with a guest. We've got Dominic

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O'Connell with us. Good morning. We're going to start with this story

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on sterling. It says the pound could crash a further 10%. We've seen it

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down 19% against the dollar. Still further to go? Could be. If you look

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at the history of the pound it has had this ever since the Second World

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War, and a typical correction has been around 25%. If you look at that

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then it does not look out of order but yesterday it had the best day

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since the vote. There will be a lot of flip-flopping around as we go

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through this political process of negotiating the terms. One report

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yesterday was that Parliament would get the final vote, that gave it the

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best day. If Goldman Sachs is right, what impact will it have? You will

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see what we had last week, more of that. This thing of imported goods

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being more expensive and falling living standards. Her first speech

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was, I'm going to improve living standards. If, in her first year,

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living standards fall, that's a political problem let's move on to

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Yahoo. Earnings more than doubling. The market expectation comes after

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this big data hack. Everybody thought it would send people

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scurrying away from them. It has not happened. It may be too early to

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tell. Some analysts said it will have checked they have not been

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compromised. I think Yahoo is benefiting from customer inertia.

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People don't pay much attention to these reports. More interesting,

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they are about to sell the online business, the bit we think of as

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Yahoo, in America. But the most valuable bit is the 15% stake they

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own in Ali Baba from China. Let's talk about these reports that the

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CEO of Nissan Renault could be on the move. What do you do to the man

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who is chief executive of the biggest car companies in the world?

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You give him a third. Nissan is about to buy 30% of Mitsubishi. It

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has all was been the weakest of the Japanese car-makers. It will happen

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after a board meeting in December. They need to be turned around. The

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comings and goings. Watch this space. Thanks for coming by the

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studio. That's it for another day. We're back tomorrow. See you soon.

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Goodbye. It looks like a pretty reasonable

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day across most parts of the United Kingdom. Some showers in the

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forecast but most places for most of the claim will have a reasonable day

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with some spells of

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