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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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Regulators examine AT's $85 billion takeover of Time Warner.

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Live from London, that's our top story

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The deal would bring together millions of TV

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Lawmakers and both presidential candidates say that raises serious

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Also in the programme: More choppy waters for South Korean

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Its shares have plunged after it said it would close

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Shares in Europe are looking like this after Japan and China opened

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the week slightly higher. We will examine what is moving the numbers.

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And why the weak pound means a five-star stay

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The boss of London's Ritz will be here a little later

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with the inside track on the century old institution.

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And as a mum slams Fisher-Price for a toy that reduces mothers

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to yoga and smoothies, let us know should toys set

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We're starting with a deal that could prove to be the biggest

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This weekend telecoms giant AT announced plans to buy media empire

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Time Warner but it's already causing a political storm in the US.

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Both presidential candidates have made their views known.

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Hillary Clinton says it raises a number of concerns

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and Donald Trump has already said he would block the merger

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But if, and it's still a big if, the merger is approved,

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the US telecoms giant will pay $85.4 billion for the

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That's close to ?70 billion and critics say it concentrates too

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For that much money you could buy Manchester United Football Club 43

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times over, Yahoo 18 times over and even Twitter six

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AT has 141.8 million mobile customers and 25 million TV

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subscribers making it the largest pay TV provider in the US.

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The deal will allow AT to combine its formidable

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distribution network with Time Warner content including

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everything from fan favourite Game Of Thrones to NBA basketball

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This is Donald Trump on his plans to block the merger if he wins. As an

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example of power structure and infighting, AT is buying time

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Warner and thus CNN, the deal we will not approve in my

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administration, because it is too much concentration of power in the

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hands of too few. We are usually pretty clear where he stands on

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these things! That was Donald Trump of course.

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Joining me now is Alice Enders, director of research at the media

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Thank you for coming in. Just give us a sense of why so many people are

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concerned about these two huge companies coming together. Many like

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Donald Trump are arguing it is too much power in too few hands. AT is

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a telecommunications company. It has a wireless business, a fixed line

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business, and Time Warner is a studio. It has many beautiful

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channels, and incredible presence, CNN news as well. I think Donald

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Trump doesn't like CNN news and its coverage of him. More generally,

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outside of the political arena, of course people are always going to be

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concerned when they see an $85 billion deal. However there is a

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precedent here which is the NBC Universal deal which got through a

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few years ago subject to a number of conditions. I think on the

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distribution side, the distributors of HBO and Game of Thrones, that

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popular show, it would be concerned that the combination prevents them

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from showing this content and that is where the justice department will

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be very careful. That is what we have got to be clear about. It is a

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decision on the part of the US justice department, not the decision

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of politicians. Call me old-fashioned, I like to think the

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regulator is there to do his job. I don't think politicians should

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necessarily intervene in that sort of deal when there is a regulator

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there to look at it very closely. What with the two bring together? At

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the moment we are looking at them as big media organisations, media in

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different respects. What would the combine company bring? What can it

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deliver? For AT it is about getting a privileged channel into a

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very big media company. AT isn't really a media company. It is a

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telecoms company. What do people connected internet to do? To enjoy

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content. It is all about premium content nowadays and what AT wants

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to do is to simplify its life by having one of the major studios

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right there, so it can tap into its content, do innovative things. AT

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is very focused on developing mobile broadband, the technology of the

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future. If it were to go ahead, let's pretend that whole deal is

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signed and sealed and regulators are K with it, will consumers in the US

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think that is the place to go? Will Verizon still be a competitor? They

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have taken a different track. Of course they are number one in the

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US. They have invested in content, they have bought AOL, but it is more

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concerned about being a pipe, a distribution network. Our consumers

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of course don't want to just watch the content that is produced by

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Warner. They want to watch the content produced by Disney,

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Paramount, whatever. In general what we see is that every single

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distribution network has got to get all of the content to make the

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customer happy. Thank you so much were coming in and share your

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insight into this story. One that will go on and on, I imagine. Stay

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tuned and we will bring you all the twists and turns of that very

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interesting debate. Here the other business news this morning.

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The Belgian region of Wallonia has rejected what it calls

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an ultimatum from Brussels to back the EU trade deal with Canada.

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The EU says a planned summit with Canada on Thursday can only go

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ahead if it guarantees by today that it won't stop Belgium

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Wallonia says the deal, known as CETA, could allow southern

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Belgium to be flooded with products from North American firms.

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Japan continues to feel the effects of the global slowdown.

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The latest trade figures show exports fell nearly 7 percent last

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It's the 12th straight month of decline in overseas demand

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The country's imports also fell, down 16 percent.

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And one non-business story we're keeping an eye on today:

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The French authorities are clearing the notorious migrant camp

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Several thousand people have been living there, many of them trying

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to smuggle themselves across the Channel into the UK.

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France has promised to relocate all of them

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and the site is scheduled to be demolished later in the week.

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Overnight there were clashes between the police and groups of migrants

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with some insisting they'd rather sleep on the streets

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There is a lot of coverage on our website and other for that matter

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about a story that emerged this weekend with bankers with their hand

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quivering over the relocation button. This is bankers based in

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London. Financial services are used contributed to UK economic growth

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but in the wake of the vote to leave the European Union, what would

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happen? Would the staff go elsewhere and would the banks want to

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relocate? On the Radio Four programme this morning there was a

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statement saying the effect of Brexit would be in the medium-term.

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More information on that story online.

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Now let's get more information about changing shipping. -- Hanjin

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Shipping. Their shares have slumped 14% after they announced they would

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close all of their European operations including the regional

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headquarters in Germany. The process will start this week once the court

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signs off on the bankruptcy. We have been tracking the story for quite a

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while. It is South Korea's biggest shipping company but it has been

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broken up and will potentially be liquidated after suffering from

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years of losses. In August we learned that creditors were refusing

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to give it any more financial support, which caused massive

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disruption to global supply chains. Many of its ships were stranded at

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sea. So Hanjin is putting up some of its biggest assets for sale.

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Analysts say exiting Europe will benefit its rivals. Good stuff.

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Thank you. And a quick look at what happened on the Asian markets. The

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new week I was good after a pretty volatile week. The Japanese earnings

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season kicking off, meaning volumes are pretty light until then. Let's

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look at Europe. The cut in the UK interest rates will feature in the

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earnings for UK banks. Lloyds, RBS and Barclays report this week so we

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will get an idea of what that means for their profitability. We have

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seen big moves to slash current accounts for users as a result of a

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fall in interest rates. In the US, we will get a big week for US

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earnings. Google, Apple and Amazon later this week. Lots to look out

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for as we explain from New York. It will be a busy week in business news

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in the US. Text diet Apple will be reporting on Tuesday and everybody

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will be playing close attention to iPhone sales for the last quarter.

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Last month they launched the iPhone seven which seems to be winning with

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consumers. On Wednesday electric car maker Tesla will be reporting on

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earnings. Last week the company announced that all of its cars come

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with full self drive hardware but the question by investors will be

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the same. When will they start making money? Online retailer Amazon

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will be reporting on Thursday and investors will want to hear that the

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company's expectations for the holiday season, which believe it or

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not is right around the corner. And we will get the strength of the US

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economy when the Congress department releases growth numbers for the last

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quarter. Some -- and we are on it. Now we have got Richard Hunter. Head

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of Wilson King investment management. Things get into full

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swing on both sides of the pond, certainly in UK and Europe the

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biggest story will be the banks. We are expecting updates from roads,

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Barclays and RBS and also Deutsche Bank in Germany. In light of that

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current travails. They have had an awful year. They have indeed. They

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have still got the $14 billion fine hanging over them which is yet to be

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renegotiated. There was some hope that would be done before the

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election, the US election, but time is running out. The banking story is

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really interesting. On the one hand they are struggling to make money in

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this record environment of low interest rates, certainly with the

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cut in UK banks earlier in the year. But then Deutsche Bank is facing

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fines, regulation, tougher criticism, so it is a difficult

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environment. There will not be much sympathy for bankers but it is a

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tough environment. Yes, and things keep coming out of the woodwork.

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Money-laundering, foreign exchange, PPI, the additional cost of

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regulation and compliance anyway, and then as you say there are these

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low interest rates which all things considered make it very difficult

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for the banks. The share prices have tended to reflect that since the

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referendum vote in June. Even the likes of Lloyds, which has had a

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pretty strong turnaround at the moment, could be affected by any

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weakness in the UK economy as we go forward. Thank you. Richard will be

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back in five minutes to talk about all sorts of things including

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smoothies, yoga and toys. A combination you don't want to Miss!

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But also still to come: Luxury for less. Why the weak pound could mean

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a 5-star state could cost you less. The boss of London's Ritz will be

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here with the inside track You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. Microsoft has announced big price

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rises for its business Business software and cloud services

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priced in pounds will go Perhaps no surprise that Microsoft

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is one of the first to make it quite so clear. Yes, indeed. This is

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really about what has happened to the value of the sterling in the

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aftermath of the referendum, and the relevant exchange rate here is

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against the Euro. If we look at the graft, Stirling before the

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referendum was at 130 and quickly went down to 120 and has drifted

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down towards the current figure of 112, cumulative decline of about

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14%. The Microsoft statement is very striking. It does not mention the

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referendum, the result, Brexit, or the decline in sterling but that is

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clearly what it is about. They are talking about realigning pricing

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across the European Union and neighbouring countries. They made a

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similar move in response to movements in Norwegian and Swiss

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currencies earlier in the year. So we are getting an increase of 13% in

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enterprise software services, for new businesses that is, and 22%

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increase in enterprise cloud services. When we say enterprise, it

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is not just business. It is also other organisations including the

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British government, which will see a significant increase in its computer

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software bills, and I guess the BBC, because we do use a certain amount

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of products. This doesn't apply to consumer software. What you and I

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buy for our computers at home will not be affected by this latest

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Microsoft announcement. Andrew Walker, thank you.

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A story that's on the Business Live page. News that one of the UK's best

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aerospace firms, their shares are down 13% after issuing a second

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profit warning this year. You've got shares in Petra Diamonds which

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jumped. Releasing a trading update for the quarter which was

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impressive. Production up 30%. It said it has got two new caves

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starting up with a meaningful contribution to production. Diamonds

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are forever especially if you're Petra!

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Our top story, US lawmakers and both presidential candidates have

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questioned AT's deal to buy Time Warner.

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The US telecoms giant, already the country's third

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largest cable provider, is paying $85.4 billion

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for the company, which owns CNN and HBO.

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A quick look at how markets are faring.

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We have been keeping a close eye on the pound-dollar exchange rate. We

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have got three regional Federal Reserve chiefs talking this week.

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Any hint with what is happening US interest rates will be on their

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radar. For many hotels in London the lower

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pound has been a blessing - driving up occupancy rates over

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the summer - and The Ritz Established 110 years ago in 1906,

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it's at the very top end Owned by the Barclay family it has

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136 rooms and suites But being pampered isn't cheap,

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the most expensive, the Prince of Wales Suite will set you back

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almost $13,000 a night! Andrew Love, Chairman of The Ritz

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Hotel joins us in the studio. Good morning. Nice to see you. Awe

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drew, let's just clarify something we've said many times in this

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programme already is the fact that the pound is falling in value.

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That's great for The Ritz. But your hotel is not really affected by

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movements in currencies so much, is that true? In terms of the room

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reservations, no. But in terms of overseas people coming for renowned

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afternoon tea, of course, overseas visitors would benefit from the

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cheeper pound and so, from that point of view, we do benefit in some

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way. But in terms of the people that tend to stay at the hotel, they

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would probably be able to afford to stay in the hotel in any event.

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Speaking of affordability, I want to pick up on the $13,000 a night. Who

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stays there? Well, very many successful people that like luxury.

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But ?13,000 a night. Dollars. People with their boats and yachts which

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are even more expensive to hire. How many afternoon teas do you serve?

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Between 400 and 500. It is afternoon tea for everybody. It is a treat for

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grandmothers. It is a treat for children on birthday parties and it

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is a lovely atmosphere because you get lots of people coming through

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the hotel. The joy of the hotel in that sense is that people make for a

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nice atmosphere. There is a lot of happiness and it is very important

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that we manage to achieve some sense of happiness in this day and age.

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The Ritz is iconic. When people think of London and staying in a

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thol, Run is a name that most heard of around the world, it has been

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around for 110 years. A big birthday this year, but you got a Michelin

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star this year which is a big deal, isn't it? Well, it is an amazing

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deal. It is a great compliment to the staff and in particular John

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Williams and Simon Gurling who are the service and food side because it

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is very difficult for a hotel per se to get a Michelin star simply

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because we have so many facets of catering whereas a chef that has a

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restaurant only has to serve lunch and dinner and that's it, we have to

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serve, breakfast, room, dinner, room services, tea and everything. You

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talked about there has not been affect of the financial downturn or

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Brexit. I'm interested who is your typical civil servantor? Can the

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hotel industry it diversified you get niche hotels and boutique

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hotels, can The Ritz compete? We have been given a Royal Warrant. A

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lot of people want to come and see the warrant because there are

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amazing amount of people abroad that are really interested quite properly

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in our Royal Family. We get a reservance people. We are a modern

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hotel, we maybe 1 to years old, but we're up-to-date in terms of

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broadband and all the other things that go with it. I know you meet the

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rich and the famous, the great and the good, all sorts of different

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individuals that come and go as you've explained, it is for those

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who want to take their granny for a special event, but you've got the

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very well known who want a private experience at The Ritz. What's been

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the biggest moment for you in your time at The Ritz? Well, I suppose

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the biggest moment was when Baroness Thatcher passed away. She had been

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staying at the hotel for three months. The last three months of her

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life she was in The Ritz? She stayed in The Ritz and it was a compliment

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to the staff. It is only the staff that make every business and in

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particular, in the hospitality business. It never came out in the

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newspaper. And the other thing, whatever political persuasion one

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happens to be, she was an amazing lady because she organised that, the

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lady that did her hair in the hotel, the maid that made her bed, the man

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that brought her room service were invited to her state funeral and

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they went and it was an honour for the hotel to have those people

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invited. Andrew, thank you for that insight. Andrew Love, from The Ritz.

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Thank you. These are the moments when our viewers complain we haven't

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got enough time. Time for the latest in our ongoing

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CEO Secrets series. Today it is the turn of Hollywood

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tattoo parlour boss and cosmetics entrepreneur Kat Von D -

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who is one of the world's most high She has something of a cult status,

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and has tattooed the great and the good of Hollywood including

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Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Tattoos aside, what advice did Kat

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wish she'd had when she started out? I think why did I become a tattoo

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artist? Was it to be the best version of myself that I could be?

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Was it to like help other people have a better experience on this

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planet while we're still alive or to make a bunch of money?

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I think when you live your life solely identified by like

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materialistic things you're bound to suffer and really to struggle. I

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look at my make-up line or my tattooing career or anything I do

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and does it bring me joy? You remember like the initial intention

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and I think that's really hard for a lot of people to do, especially in a

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day and age when you get side tracked by how many followers do you

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have, what house or car do you drive? All that stuff is distracting

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or it can be if you're careful. Art has been my best friend. That best

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friend that tags along with you everywhere you go makes life a much

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more amazing place. Fisher Price's latest doll shouts,

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"I need a smoothie, I'm going to rumba." Boys and girls... Is that a

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stereotype? Boys and girls, unless things have changed tend to have

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different interests growing up and indeed in adult life. But she may

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have have a point. Not so much around the gender side maybe, but I

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think she is likely to upset a pum of people with the yoga and

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smoothies. We got Jess saying children's toys only set a bad

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example if children are taught to use them violently. They have got to

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come up with new inside. Is it really that bad? Being of a certain

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generation, it is nice to see physical toys which keeps kids off

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the screens for 23 hours a day. The fact that toys are around is a

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positive. I like that. Ken now, he is often seen with ironing in the

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back of the car! Really? What, the modern man? Ken as in the doll with

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Barbie, they're mixed up in terms of their roles. In terms of what

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they're doing and not doing. You see, Ben should know these things!

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a really good day. Bye-bye. Hi there. We have got a quiet week

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of weather coming up. There will be a little bit of rain to come, but

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generally there will be cold starts to the morning especially during the

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early part of the week.

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