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The world's most powerful central bank is now predicting three

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rate rises next year - instead of two.

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We'll assess the impact on America and the world.

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Hackers steal data from more than a billion Yahoo accounts.

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We'll get the latest from Washington.

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The US dollar headed higher, but the stock market didn't

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like the sound of last night's statement and press

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The Dow - which has been flirting with hitting

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In the UK - the Bank of England meets with interest rates

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Would you give up this lovely looking cooked breakfast for this?

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How old a cup. It promises to give you all the proteins, carbohydrates

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and facts you need. We'll meet the man who says this

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is the meal of the future. And so we want to know -

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would you swap real food Or do you just enjoy

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eating too much? We start with US interest rates -

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because America's Central Bank, the Federal Reserve,

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has raised the cost of borrowing. Nearly everyone predicted

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that would happen. What wasn't expected though

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was the strong signal from the Fed that rates will be going up faster -

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and higher - than many That's rattled stock markets

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and boosted the dollar. Higher rates will have a knock

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on effect around the world. And what wasn't said -

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but was strongly implied - was the impact the economic plans

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of President-elect Trump could have. Well, the Fed raised its main

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interest rate by 0.25%. The Fed is now predicting three

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rate rises next year - instead of two previously

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anticipated. And three more a year

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for the following two years - so that borrowing costs will hit

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3% by 2019. Again - that's higher

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than its previous predictions. Well - it wasn't spelled out -

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but there were strong hints it's His plans for lower taxes and more

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spending which should boost the economy and push

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up inflation. Joining us is Nandini Ramakrishnan,

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Global Market Strategist at J.P. Markets having a chance to react to

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this, the Dow not being able to hit those highs. What did major

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makeover? Broadly speaking we saw Asian markets taking their cue from

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Wall Street. Many Asian economies are badly affected, negatively

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affected when US interest rates go up, because over the last eight

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years old a decade or so, Asia has really benefited from this era of

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cheap money. Now it looks like the US is going to start raising

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interest rates not just today but over the next couple of years. That

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means Asian companies have to wean themselves off this addiction and

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that's going to be very painful. Good stuff, thank you.

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We heard that the reaction in Asia, quite mixed. Japan was slightly up

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because the yen is so weak compared to the dollar, but other emerging

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markets, other countries that rely on the US dollar investment and so

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on it's quite difficult? Yes, tough for emerging markets relying on the

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US dollar debt or a high strong dollar, which pulls the money,

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strengthens the dollar, it's tough for emerging markets to deal with

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that. But this is just one of the few issues facing emerging markets

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and it depends between which emerging markets are looking at.

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Some weaker than others. The European markets, pretty mixed. Most

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people seem to be a bit fazed by what was said at the press

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conference. The interest rate Reich happened, the and for next it's one

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more than what we anticipated at previous meetings. That is a bit of

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a faster pace. I think the overall perception of markets is this is a

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Fed taking a higher growth in the US economy and can justify the fact the

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US economy is strong enough to handle it. They are looking for two

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things, better unemployment rates, the better, and inflation, which is

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now starting to go up. It looks like we are in a good place for the US

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economy. What does it say about the diverging policies of Europe and the

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US? America with rates going up more quickly and higher than we thought

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before and Europe stuck in this era of record low interest rates and no

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sign they could even start thinking about raising? Very much that

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morning trade policy diverging. The Fed starting to dig up a bit in the

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US and Europe it seems like a ultralow interest rates very long

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time. That's because the ECB are trying to get growth as much as

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possible stimulated in the Eurozone and European economies, especially

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have elections coming up. What about have elections coming up. What about

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the Bank of England? We have the central bank meeting here in the UK

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today. What is Mark Carney thinking with all this going on? The

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expectation is for no change in the interest rates in the UK as of yet.

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So much uncertainty regarding Brexit, and the negotiations next

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year indicating that should be a stable approach taken before next

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year. Thank you. We will later get your take on shakes against the real

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stuff! We will but all this discussion of America, we should

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check in on what is happening stateside. All the details from New

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York. The consumer price index, or CPI,

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measures changes in the price of a collection of consumer goods

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and services purchased On Thursday, fresh numbers

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from the US Labor Department are expected to show that the CPI

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rose 02% in the month of November. QuadComputing is the name

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of the game for two companies Photoshop maker Adobe Systems

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is seeing an increase in user growth, because of its Cloud

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subscription services Also reporting is Oracle,

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and investors are expecting a slight rise in revenue,

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as strength in its growing Cloud business outgrew weakness in its

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traditional software offerings. That was the Mir Hussein in New York

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for us. President-elect Donald Trump hosted

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some of Silicon Valley's top bosses The meeting was called to clear

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the air after many of them backed rival Hilary Clinton

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in the recent US elections. The meeting focused mainly

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on economic issues, including job creation,

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lowering taxes and Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras

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has refused to back down over his plans to give poor Greek

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pensioners a pre-Christmas bonus. A government official says

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Mr Tsipras will ask parliament It will cost Greece

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around 620 million euros have suspended their recently agreed

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debt-relief plan for Greece saying Another story I would imagine if you

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are a Yahoo account holder is the story that emerged yesterday about

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Yahoo admitting to 1 billion user accounts possibly being affected by

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a hacking attack dating back to 2013. This is on top of the breach

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they told us about a little while ago, which was 500 million accounts

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back in 2014. So many are asking the question, what on earth is going on

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at Yahoo? There is a lot of analysis on our website, as you can see.

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Yahoo saying names, passwords and e-mail addresses were stolen but

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crucially says not bank or payment data. But all raising big questions

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about Verizon, the telecoms giant who are proposing to buy Yahoo for

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$4.8 billion. Big questions about whether it will want to do that,

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given this massive data breach. There's a stark warning today

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about the impact of Brexit A parliamentary committee is warning

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that Britain will need a 'transitional period' once it

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leaves the EU - so that financial firms don't face what it calls

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a 'cliff edge' that pushes them The report is by the House of Lords

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EU Financial Affairs Sub-Committee, and its chair Baroness Falkner of

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Margravine. She is with us now. Very nice to see

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you. Thank you for joining us. Talk us through this. We heard so much

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debate about what will happen after Brexit, how long it will take and

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what shape business will be in. What are you most worried about? I think

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we are really worried about this cliff edge. That we come to the end

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of the two year period, there isn't a fresh deal on the table, and we

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are suddenly in a situation where businesses who have planned already

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to relocate or to move their business models, change their

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business models, are affected by the uncertainty. And because the

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financial services sector, as well as the regulators, want an orderly

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transition, it would be the worst thing. The other thing we are

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worried about is whether the skill set the financial services sector

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needs would be available to them if there is no freedom of movement of

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people between the EU and the United Kingdom, as well as from outside. We

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were told in the evidence it was really important that the government

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FastTrack and have a good robust system for allowing companies to

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move people around. Are you arguing there needs to be a special deal,

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for the City of London? I think we are not necessarily arguing for a

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special deal for the city of London, we are saying this is an ecosystem,

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it exists and there are a lot of jobs at stake, several million, that

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are relying on other businesses. One of the things you point out in

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Europe report is if the worst case scenario comes into effect, New York

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will be the winner, not Paris, Frankfurt or London. Do you think

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that will scare the EU negotiators into action, therefore they will

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come to some kind of compromise agreement? I think it became pretty

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apparent to us that the size and depth and liquidity of London

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couldn't be replicated very easily in a two year framework anywhere

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else. It is the well's 's biggest financial centre. The next biggest

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is New York. The logic of it dictates a lot of business will go

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to New York. We hope that there will be more pragmatism once the

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government lays out its White Paper, it strategic plan in terms of what

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it wants. We hope then people will be able to see the United Kingdom

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and the City of London is important and they will realise. But is an

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important point to make, the European Union countries, consumers,

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businesses, rely on London as much as United Kingdom businesses do. OK,

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we have to leave it there unfortunately. Thank you for joining

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us. A report being presented today. Still to come, is this the food of

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the future? We will meet the man who says he has invented the right mix

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of everything you need to live in powdered form. This is Business Live

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from BBC News. The online takeaway service called just eat has sunk its

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teeth into rival hungry house. It is paying ?240 million to buy the firm.

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It comes as the take-away delivery market is hotting up

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in the UK, with competition from the likes of

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Theo Leggett is in the Business Newsroom.

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The competition is hotting up, but sometimes the food is not very hot

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when it is delivered? I was just wondering how many bad puns we could

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get in that introduction. I was going to say myself this is a case

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of Just Eat gobbling up its main rivals. Just Eat is an Internet

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-based service where you can type in your postcode and it will connect

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you with takeaway restaurants in your area, categorised according to

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what you want, if you want to eat Chinese, a curry or pizza and those

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companies will deliver to your area and their menus will be on the

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website. It has proved rather successful. The company floated just

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a couple of years ago and it seems investors this morning are quite

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happy with what they are hearing about its potential takeover of

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HungryHouse. The share price is up 5.5%. Why is that? Quite simply

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because HungryHouse is a very similar sort of operation and by

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taking over HungryHouse, Just Eat not only increases its own scale but

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gets rid of arrival as well. Thank you. Interesting story there that's

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unveiling. Now, we have a lot more on our website, as I keep saying.

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The go-ahead group warning the performance of the rail division is

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slightly below its estimates, just what you want to hear when we are in

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the thick of the Southern rail scenario. Lots of stories about

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disruption for Christmas travel. We will talk about the worst excuses

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from travel firms later, when they talk about the inconvenience, which

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is code for them not running a service.

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This is another interesting one, JD sports launches investigation into

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working conditions. A very hot topic in the UK at the moment. It said it

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will launch an investigation into conditions at its Kingsway will

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warehouse in Rochdale after staff told a Channel 4 News undercover

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investigation it was worse than a prison. This has been an issue for

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Sports Direct as well, very much in focus at the moment. That is on our

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website as well. Lots of stories from various companies there. When

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you have a chance, take a look. The page is constantly updated and all

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the latest reaction to news from the US Fed.

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Our top story: markets around the world in Asia and Europe reacts to

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the news from the Federal reserve in the US. Interest rates went up. It

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is what Janet Yellin had to say which spooked investors a bit.

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Markets are a little concerned they did not see the three extra rate

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rises coming. They were not quite sure what would happen over the

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coming year. In Asia we saw losses on many markets because their

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currency is at an all-time low. Many currencies based in places like

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Malaysia, the Philippines and Thailand have debts in US dollars.

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As the US dollar goes up in value, debt repayments climb. Markets in

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Asia hit hard by the news. It is breakfast time in many parts of the

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world. You may be tired of eating real food. Apparently you are in

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luck. UK based Huel makes powdered meals to meet your daily

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requirements. In 18 months it sold more than three and a half million

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males in more than 50 countries around the world. What is in it? I

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very long list. Oats, sunflower seeds, flax seeds, Brown rice

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proteins plus a lot less natural sounding ingredients. We will talk

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about that in a minute. All ground into a powder. This is a busy

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market. We have competitors you may have heard. They say they replace

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meals as other innovators developing substitutes will meet, milk and egg.

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Is this the food of the future? We have been playing with these all

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morning. The Christmas pudding shake is not the one we have here.

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Interesting. Just talk us through how this came about. It is not the

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first. A lot of people swear by this. It does mean they don't have

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to eat real food. I had a previous fitness business. At that I was

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cooking my food from scratch every day. I lost a lot of body fat and my

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friends wanted to replicate that. I weighing all of my food to know how

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many calories I was in taking every day. That is quite difficult to do.

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I was using protein shakes. They don't contain all the nutrients you

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need. We put in the carbs, the facts and the micronutrients. It is all in

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a single product and says a lot of time. All you do is drink this or

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eat it, depending on the constituent -- consistency. The way I use it is

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I have for breakfast, lunch and then have a traditional family meal in

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the evenings. Then we'll have some. Do I need to shake it? No. I prefer

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that to the Christmas pudding one. Some of the ingredients are

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technologically altered. You have a lot of sugars in there. They have

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artificial sweeteners. That is artificial. It is not natural. The

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trend is to go back to nature. It is all about full fat milk. It is 95%

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natural and 5%. We rely on science for everything. If we went to the

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doctors, medicines are not natural. We put natural things in our body

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all the time. Science gets us to the moon and back. Science can do a lot.

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Does this slide in the face of the moons thing? There are some crazy

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things on here I do recognise. We take red. We have 31 ingredients on

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the top. We have 26 essential vitamins and minerals was to impress

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are 21 ingredients. That is baked. It is more process than Huel. What

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is a vanilla flavour system? It is a flavour sweetener. You are not going

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through health food shops or anything. You are wanting to launch

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in the US. That would be quite a tough market, wouldn't it? We get

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e-mails constantly. On social media we get people asking, when EU coming

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to America? This is made down in Devon. We ship the ingredients in

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from where they come from. It is blended in Devon, packaged in Devon

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and sent out from Peterborough. Who is your ideal customer question what

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we thought it was going to be people in office environments. You do not

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have access to the kitchen and you go out and grab a summer job bring

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something in. The same for breakfast. -- a sandwich it is

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people who don't have access to a kitchen like a lorry driver. An

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ambulance man. Are you going to have these at service stations? A man in

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the Army put four stone on since he became a lorry driver. He has gone

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on to Huel and he has lost weight. Quite a few tweets. I have a shape

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for breakfast every morning. At the same time, Glenn says, food should

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be textured and enjoyable and not pulverised Marsh. Maybe Glenn is not

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your ideal customer. We do have a bar now. We will send back to Glenn.

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Thank you for coming in. Thank you for bringing in the Christmas

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pudding one. The internet giant Yahoo says it's

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working with police to investigate a large scale hack which may have

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affected one billion The company says names,

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phone numbers, passwords and email addresses have been stolen

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during the attack which Here's our Washington

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reporter Laura Bicker. Other companies have been hacked

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that year who could have suffered a record-breaking information breach

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for the second time. It has taken over three years to discover it. A

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few months ago the company announced a million accounts have been hacked.

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Now that was another data breach dating back to 2013. They don't

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think bank or payment card data was stolen. The company believes a

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state-sponsored actor is to blame that they will not say which

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country. This is the latest setback for Yahoo. An internet pioneer which

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has fallen on hard times. It may affect a deal with Verizon, which

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aims to buy Yahoo. Account holders are being urged to reset their

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passwords while the FBI investigates.

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You tried that shake, didn't you? What do you reckon? I liked it. It

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was mixed with fresh banana and almond milk. People in the City of

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London will grab something like that on their way make something quickly

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at home. It seems to be about the convenience factor. Lloyds of London

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is to establish EU based in the New Year. It is quite interesting.

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Lloyds of London are saying this today in the press. Other banks are

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doing this as well. Any business plan is to have contingency plans

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with Brexit or Article 50 being triggered possibly by March of next

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institutions have a secondary plan institutions have a secondary plan

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or some way to handle what will of course be a huge change for the City

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of London. The report that Baroness Butler put together does talk about

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the fact these big banks are looking up operations in Europe. To be

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honest, they would be silly not to in this situation, wouldn't they?

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Regardless of Brexit, having global operations to service the client or

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service the industries in different parts of the world. It is probably a

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business plan that most financial institutions would have anyway. For

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any hard-pressed commuter, passenger website tracks how often travel

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companies apologise. We have all heard those announcements. We are

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sorry this train is not running. Sorry for the inconvenience must be

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the most infuriating sentence. If you have not got from a to be, I

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guess so. The thing about markets and investigated -- investigative

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companies, it is a new sector. If it is so transparent you apologise and

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tell customers what is going on. Sometimes you think, I don't care,

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make it run on time. That might be the basic service offered. You are

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obsessed by Wi-Fi. We where discussing this yesterday. It

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depends if you get a seat. That is the other issue goes that we could

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go on and on. Thank you for coming in. It has been great having you

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with us. You are up to date with all you need to know in the business

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world. Much more throughout the day wherever you are watching us. See

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you soon. Hello. For many of us it will be a

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cloudy day. There will be some places seeing a bit of sunshine and

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some getting rain.

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