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Chinese investment in Europe and the US continues to grow

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reaching almos $100 billion last year - but can the trend continue?

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Live from London, that's our top story on Monday 6th February.

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So why is investment from a nine chain in Europe and the US --

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mainland Europe and We will also speak to the

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award-winning business leader who took over a waste management company

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at the age of 19. Also today - Ryanair

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profits are down - So do you still have

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the cheap flights bug? If you are planning your holidays,

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why not tell us where you are off to?

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The political events of 2016 may have ignited an unprecedented period

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of uncertainty for the global economy but one thing that appears

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to remain unaffected is the growing appetite of Chinese investors.

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Last year Chinese investment in the US increased

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Meanwhile, Chinese investment into Europe grew by 90 percent.

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All of this gives the impression 2016 was a good year for Western

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economies when it comes to foreign investment.

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Well the UK is about to begin a two-year period of Brexit

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negotiations and this echoes wider concerns over the health

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France, Germany and the Netherlands are all set to head to the polls

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later this year and Eurosceptic parties are gaining ground

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And in the US the uncertainty about what the Trump administration

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means for future deals with China is very unclear.

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During the recent election campaign he vowed to impose punitive

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Add to that moves from Chinese authorities to crackdown on money

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Chinese overseas deals could have been worth billions of dollars more

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if Beijing had not blocked some 30 acquisitions with Europe and the US.

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Tim Gee is Mergers and Aquisitions Partner at Baker McKenzie and one

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He explained why those deals were blocked.

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Some of the transactions and ousted not complete because the Chinese bid

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was outbid. The Chinese bid for London City Airport was outbid by a

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Canadian pension fund. Then you also have regulatory control from the

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West, particularly in the US. Some deals were blocked there, including

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European deals. Then you have controls within China, and what we

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have seen is concern over capital outflow from China, and that has

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caused some transactions to be pulled as a result of China saying,

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we don't want this to happen. Linda Yueh is a Fellow in Economics

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at the University of Oxford and an Adjunct Professor

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of Economics at London Nice to see you, Linda. This report

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is interesting on what happened last year, because the numbers are

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staggering, the amount that was invested in the US and Europe, but

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also the amount that wasn't. Talk us through a bit more the reasons why.

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The Chinese are trying very hard to control out what capital movement.

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There are some economic reasons. One is to stabilise the value of the

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Chinese currency. Remember, China pegs its currency. They have to

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control the amount of currency flowing outside its borders. The

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other reason is they don't want companies companies being bought,

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but that is how commercial transactions should work. That is

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more of an excuse. The real reason is that they want to control the

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capital markets, just as they control pretty much everything else

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in the financial markets in the country. I wonder what your take is

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on the future appetite of Chinese investors investing in the US when

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we have quite convert of statements from Donald Trump, accusing China of

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manipulating its currency, questioning the one China policy.

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Will that affect investors' willingness to pour money in? I

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think the rhetoric will have some impact, but I wouldn't overstate it.

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Politically, there has always been a lot of tension between the US and

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China, but a lot of businesses do deals anyway. The Chinese don't view

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Donald Trump that negatively. There are some who are worried, but there

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are others who say, he is a businessman. He welcomed some

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Chinese companies to make jobs in America. There are only two roles in

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an American economy, he said - hire American people and by American

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products. -- purchase American products. . There has been a shift

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away from... The Chinese Government is attempted to control not just the

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financial markets but the whole economy. China's growth is slowing.

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It is one of the reasons why big companies want to invest overseas,

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to diversify. The Government doesn't want them to put money into things

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that they don't think will help china's growth. They want

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innovation, expertise and things like high-end financial services,

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high-tech manufacturing, so their investment in America and Europe

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tends to be permitted if it is of that ilk. It tends to be scrutinised

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if it is more about buying entertainment companies. Thanks,

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Linda. All was good to have you on the programme. There is more about

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that on our website. Take a look when you have time. Some other news

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now. Apple, Facebook, Google

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and Microsoft are among 97 companies to have filed an official court

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document opposing Donald The US President's executive order

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prevents people from seven mainly Muslim countries

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entering the United States. On Saturday, the federal appeals

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court rejected the Trump administration's request

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to reinstate the ban after it was initially

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blocked a day earlier. Ryanair has reported an 8% fall

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in profits as increased competition forced the Irish airline

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to cut fares. The company says that average ticket

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prices may have fallen by as much as 15 per cent over

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the winter period. Ryanair has warned that 2017

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will continue to be a difficult year for the industry,

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but the carrier left its profit Two of Japans biggest

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automakers have announced Toyota and Suzuki said they'd been

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working on the deal since October. This is interesting, isn't it?

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That's right. I just want to mention that Toyota has just released its

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latest earnings numbers. They have raised their profit forecast thanks

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to stronger sales. They say they expect profit of 15 billion US

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dollars in the financial year to March, a 10% increase from the last

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forecast. Toyota last year lost its title as the world's biggest

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car-maker to Volkswagen. The industry is getting more

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competitive. Tidying up with Suzuki is a means to address that. They

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will develop green cars and other technologies, but it is worth

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mentioning that both companies have a history of failed alliances, so

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let's hope that this relationship works out. Thank you very much.

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Asian markets rose as investors tracked a record on Wall Street.

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That was fuelled by a better than expected jump in US jobs.

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Financial stocks in particular have been boosted by Donald Trump's

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He's likely to relax the tighter regulations that were imposed

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on banks after the 2008 crash to try and prevent a repeat of that.

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In Europe the main markets opened a shade higher - but fairly flat.

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Some things to watch out for this week -

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investors will be looking at the results from BP and Total

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They are two of Europe's biggest energy companies.

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Will their results reflect the rebound in oil prices?

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And Samira Husain has the details about what's ahead

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If the last two weeks were anything to go by, we could see another busy

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week. It will also be a busy week per business news, as companies

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continue to report earnings. General Motors will release results on

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Tuesday and it is expected to have a record year. Coca-Cola is also

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reporting this year. Fizzy drinks are going flat as consumers look for

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a healthier options. The company has been trying to diversify away from

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sugary drinks into coconut and vitamin water, but it hasn't been

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enough -- but has it been enough? Wall Street is -- twitter is

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reporting as well. Joining us is Trevor Greetham,

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Head of multi asset A lot going on, as usual. We'd been

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touching on some of the issues. Let's talk about travel, because

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that seems to be impacting trade in Asia, with shares doing well.

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Perhaps an executive order on financial regulation coming up soon?

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Yes, and you will generally here Donald Trump using the short form of

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the consumer protection act. He wants to deregulate the American

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market generally, which would mean getting banks... Wasn't the

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regulation brought in to protect us against another 2008 - style crisis?

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Yes. It is that a question about whether it will be a good thing or a

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bad thing, but it will have to go through Congress. There will be

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opposition. Generally, we are testing America's separation of

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powers. Donald Trump will say stuff and then see what happens. The

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challenge to immigration. Companies now joining the legal case to try

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and get the travel ban overturned. From his point of view, he can't

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lose, because he says, I will ban people from these countries, and he

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is then stopped from doing it, but he can say to his supporters, I

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tried and I was stopped by so-called judges and so-called politicians. He

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has nothing to lose. There is a continual war in the markets between

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what it sees good, such as stimulus, and what they see as bad, all the

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crazy stuff. Other crazy stuff coming up this week - what are you

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watching? Amongst all this political noise, the world economy is strong,

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which is good. Markets. China is strong this year, whereas it was

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weak for four or five years. Maybe they don't want to slam the brakes

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on, so it will stay quite strong. Thank you for joining us.

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Still to come: We'll speak to the woman who unexpectedly took

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over the family firm at the age of 19 and turned it into

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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Let's tell you a bit more about Ryanair reporting and 8% fall in

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profits. They said average fares fell to ?28 per customer, a fall of

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17%. Traffic was up 16% on last year. The chief financial officer of

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Ryanair joins us now. It's an interesting time for you as a

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company, as many of your rivals. More people travelling but you're

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making less money per passenger and your profits are going down. Good to

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talk to you. We're having a relatively good year, to be honest.

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Our profits in the first nine months were up. As you said, passenger

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numbers were exceptionally strong. We had record load factors of 95%.

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An average fare of ?28. Fares could be down as much as 15% in the fourth

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quarter. We have maintained our guidance of 1.35 billion, which

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would be record profits for Ryanair this year. It really is an issue for

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you, isn't it? We have heard you will sustain those low prices the

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rest of this year and probably the first quarter of next, so your

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profits will be more and more squeezed, when they? -- won't they?

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We have the lowest fares of anyone out there, and we announced this

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morning that our total costs will be down by 4%. When you consider that

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our next nearest competitor's 's 40% higher than ours, and yet we're

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looking at unit cost reductions, excluding fuel, that puts is in a

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strong position relative to everyone else. We're better hedged next year

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compared to competitors. We have compared to competitors. We have

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which is our biggest cost, and there which is our biggest cost, and there

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will be significant savings on fuel. We are very good at cutting costs in

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the businesses and keeping competitive advantage. We grow

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profitably on the back of it. Next year, our plan is to deliver 130

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million customers. That's the chief financial officer.

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More detail is on our website on Ryanair's earnings and other

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companies out with news. Our top story, Chinese direct

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investment into the US and Europe more than doubled to a record

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$94 billion last year. Lawyers Baker McKenzie say

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that was despite $75 billion worth A quick look at how

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markets are faring. This is how they're looking after a

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fairly flat open. The FTSE is up a shade. The DAX and the Cac down

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slightly. In the UK alone, the industry

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is worth more than ?0.5 billion. But it is in a predominantly

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male-run sector, Jacqueline O'Donovan stands

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out as a rare female leader. At the age of 19, Jacqueline took

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over the family business 30 years on and O'Donovan Waste

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Disposal is a fast-growing firm It employs 160 people

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and mostly operates in London and the South East,

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a complex and very Jacqueline O'Donovan,

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Managing Director Tell our viewers about the beginning

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for you. Because your father died suddenly when you were just 17. He

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was running the company? He was, yes. He had a successful business

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and he died back in 1985 when I was 17 and I'm the youngest of four. The

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youngest of four? The youngest of four. But it fell on your shoulders

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to run the business? It fell on all our shoulders, but it took a couple

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of years to stabilise and once it stabilised, we picked our role and

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mine was managing director. How did you manage that at such a young age?

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You're running a company, what sort of business experience did you have

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at that stage and were you just winging it? I was winging it. I ran

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out of school at 16. I couldn't wait to get out the gatesment I had a job

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as a childminder in Germany which I didn't take on and the rest is

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history. What reaction do you get from friends when you tell them your

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line of work? They say what line of work are you in and I say, "I bet

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you can't guess." Which they can't! It is a difficult business to be in

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anyway, I imagine 30 years ago, at the age of 19, being a woman running

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this company in London it was extremely tough. What kind of

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barriers and difficulties did you face? First of all, the biggest

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barrier was I was a female in a male dominated industry which I think

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bothered the men more than it bothered me. Then I didn't play

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golf. That was also a bit of a hurdle especially when it came to...

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Do you play golf now? No, no time to shop or golf. That was a hurdle. But

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I just saw them as challenges and worked my way over them each and

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everyone. How did you overcome them? Was it by proving to people that you

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could hold your own and you were just as able to grasp this industry

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as they were? I didn't really think about it at all. It wasn't something

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that I thought about, oh, my gosh, I'm a woman in a male dominated

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industry. It was something I took as a challenge. I enjoy a challenge and

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I got on with it. The males felt more intimidated than I did.

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The actual industry itself has changed in that period of time? Oh,

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massively. We just chuck everything away in one bag and you guys would

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take it away. I imagine in the UK many viewers around the world have a

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similar experience, we're separating our waste, we might get fined if we

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don't do it properly and it is left behind. It has completely changed.

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What has that meant for your business? It brought us to the fore

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front. 20 years ago if you were at a social event with regards to

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business you would tell people you were in waste disposal, it was right

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move on to the next question or the next subject. Now, they want to know

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how you do it, what equipment is involved, whether people are still

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involved, and people are more interested in how it's done. Is it

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harder to make money now? Oh, yeah, without a shadow of a doubt because

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it takes a lot more money, a lot more equipment to recycle more. So

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yeah, the prices have gone completely. What's your ambition for

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the business. Where do you take a waste disposal business in the

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future? Bigger and better things. I would like to try different waste

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streams. We would like to expand as a family. So yeah, bigger and

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better. Are we sitting on a waste time bomb in London? I imagine any

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capital city around the world in terms of waste is a big problem? I

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wouldn't say it is a time bomb. I think it is very well handled.

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Behind the scenes what normal people don't see is very well handled. How

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much is landfill and how much in terms of percentages? We are 100%

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diverted from landfill and we have been for years. The old landfill,

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the biggest issue is food waste going to landfill. That's the next

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hurdle for the food waste industry. I could talk to you for hours,

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couldn't you? Yes. Fascinating. We can't. Thank you for coming in.

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Really good to have you on the programme. Thanks.

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And now for the latest instalment of our ongoing CEO secrets series

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we're going to hear from the head of a family company that's now

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Paul Symington is chairman of the Portuguese wine company

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This is the business advice he wishes he had been given

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If you were going to have a big row, leave it for the really important

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things and don't have arguments over the small things.

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We're a family business that goes back into the 19th century.

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A family business that is united is unbeatable and there

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is incressing evidence of the success of family businesses

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Put aside the little irritations because they're not important.

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Take a deep breath, sleep on it, come back and then

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If you let small niggly things get in the way,

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you really break up a really, really fantastic business.

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There you have it. Loads of top tips from bosses on the programme today.

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Let's see what other stories are being talked

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We have to talk about Brexit. It is on the front page of the FT today. A

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survey which indicates big quota companies are negative on the UK

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following the vote to leave the European Union. Which is hardly

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surprising given in the run-up in the campaign most of these people

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would have campaigned in favour of Remain. That's despite all the data,

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you know, proving them perhaps wrong? Yeah, it shows the UK is

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growing reasonably at the quarter it was 0.6% one of the best of the G7.

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Are they wrong? Well, it matters if they have a negative outlook because

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they are the ones who drive investment into the UK. They are the

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ones who provide jobs for the k. I must say also the survey is at odds

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with the ones I've talked to, most business people are prag pattic

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about life. Most business people I speak to are let's get on it. Some

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companies will have to move people, but by and large business people are

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flexible and adaptable, I think. Let's talk about this fascinating

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story about the boss of Tiffany. He was shown the exit door in a kind

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of... He has been in the job for two years. He got the boot on Sunday

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night they announced it. Just before the Super Bowl when Tiffany had one

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of its first time ads? Tiffany sells upmarket jewellery. Tourists going

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to New York, you know, it costs them more to buy Tiffany jewellery, if

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you know New York, Tiffany's main store is right beside Trump Tower.

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They said it was getting hard for them to get people in and out of the

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door because of the motorcades arriving, it is a double Trump

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thump. Why get rid of the boss? That's not his fault? It is often

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the boss that carries the can. It is difficult for Tiffany. All the up

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market brands are flying on the edge. One mistack and you can easily

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fall out of favour. There you go. On the ropes. He's looking for a new

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job. Thanks Dominic. That's the end of another packed show. It flies by.

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There will be more business news throughout the day on the live page

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and on world business report. We will see you soon. Take care.

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Bye-bye. Hello there. The week has started on

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a cold note with quite a widespread frost this morning. The week will

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end on a cold note as well as I'll show new a moment, but we have a wet

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and windy interlude to get through first and that's heading our way

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