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This is Business Live from BBC News with Aaron Heslehurst

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France gets ready for Macron economics.

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But does the new president have the right formula to bring

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Live from London, that's our top story on Friday 19th May.

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Never mind 100 days - how about 100 hours?

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French president Emmanuel Macron has been in the job for five days,

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but he's already got his work cut out ahead of the parliamentary

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We take a look at what he hopes to achieve.

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Tense times for Mexico as its two-decade-old trade deal

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And, as always, we bring you the latest action on the markets -

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we'll find out why the markets have pushed aside, for now,

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And we look back at the past week in business, when US

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markets had their worst day since November,

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and the economy was the main focus in the UK election.

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That's all with our business editor, Simon Jack.

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It's easy to get in touch with the programme -

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It is Friday, we have got that Friday feeling.

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We start in France - where the new President,

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Emmanuel Macron, says he expects no honeymoon from the public

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He now has to try and win a majority in next month's

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parliamentary elections - and implement the economic policy

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So what is Macron economics - and can it solve France's problems?

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Macron calls himself 'neither right nor left',

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he's a centrist, and, sure enough, the team he announced on Wednesday

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is a diverse mix of figures from the left, right and centre.

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He says his economic policy is based on the Nordic model.

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Basically, it mixes spending cuts on the one hand

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He plans to cut spending by 60 billion euros over

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The civil service will be hit hard - 120,000 jobs will go.

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But over the same period he has pledged 50 billion euros worth

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That includes cutting the corporate tax rate from 33% to 25%

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and lowering the tax burden on households.

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It's a similar story with free trade.

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As a former banker, he's broadly for it.

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But he's also talked about creating a "protective Europe".

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You know how we hear Trump saying, by American, by American? Will he

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wants us to buy European. He wants to stop non-EU companies

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taking over key industries. France's jobless rate is almost

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double that of Germany's at 9.6%. Many employers blame strict labour

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laws, like the 35-hour working week. But they are fiercely

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defended by unions. You've guessed it,

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somewhere in-between. He wants to keep the 35-hour work

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week, but change the way the law is applied to make it

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easier to hire and fire. Jean Pierre Lambert is a managing

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director at the investment bank KBW. He has to act fast, doesn't he? Do

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you think the team he has assembled around him will help him crack that

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really difficult problem of reforming France's labour laws?

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Plenty of other administrations have failed. He has an excellent economic

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minister, a Budget minister who is a rising star in the Republican Party,

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and he has got 18 that is ready to and he has got 18 that is ready to

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fight. The first bite will be the parliament in the elections which

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are going to take place, will he get the majority? So far the polls

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indicate he may get the majority, which would be an achievement.

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Incredible, given this party was only set up just over a year ago!

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Absolutely. Not everything in France is decided in Parliament, as you

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alluded. Do you think the timing here is crucial, because if he gets

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it through in the summer plenty of people will be on holiday and less

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inclined to strike? A good point! Yes, a good point, and

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he has to be prepared to take hard action and face the repercussions if

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people are fighting, he has to take a hard stance and he is a good

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character to do that. This is what I don't understand, France runs a

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deficit, for the uninitiated, that means France spends more than it

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earns from tax, right? He wants to make these big tax cuts, so they

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already spend more than they make in tax, can they afford that? He has a

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balancing act to implement. Critical for him is to gain credibility again

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with Germany and because previous administrations have tried to

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deliver, including Francois Hollande, but did not deliver

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reform, if he wants the support of Germany he needs to be the first to

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put his house in order, which includes respecting the budgetary

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rules said added European level, the 3% deficit, and he wants also to

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unemployment because he wants to give more to the young people, 25%

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unemployment is fairly high. How do you think is planned to buy European

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will go down with Angela Merkel? Germany has concerns about

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non-European companies buying critical industries so this issue, I

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don't think she was that much opposed, it is a subject for

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discussion, it may happen. Thank you very much for coming to talk to us.

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Let's take a look at some of the other stories

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Greece's parliament has approved a new package of austerity measures

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needed to release the next instalment of its

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Protesters clashed with police in central Athens as MPs voted

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on the tax rises and further cuts to pensions.

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Eurozone finance ministers meet on Monday to decide if Greece has

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done enough to receive a E7.5 billion loan plus debt relief.

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Brazil's stock market has plunged amid corruption allegations

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The main Ibovespa index closed down more than 8.8% -

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trading was briefly halted earlier in the day after losses of more

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than 10% prompted circuit breakers to kick in.

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President Temer was forced to deny a newspaper report that he had given

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consent to paying off a witness in a huge corruption scandal.

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The Supreme Court has authorised an investigation

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Leaders from the APEC group of Asia Pacific nations are gathered

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They are pushing to save the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade

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Pulling out of it was of course the first action of President Trump.

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Good to see you. This is the 11 nation is now going, you know what?

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Maybe we can do this without the United States!

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Yes, it will be an interesting meeting because on the one hand you

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have the countries hoping to be part of the TPB originally now scrambling

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to salvage it in some way, shape or form, and on the other hand the US

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trade representative who will represent the president, as you

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mentioned, who seems to have far more protectionist impulses than his

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predecessors. Many ministers will try to get face time with him to see

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if there is wiggle room with his America first policies and to seek a

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bit more clarity about what they mean, but it seems pretty unlikely

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might see coming out of this meeting might see coming out of this meeting

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but we at least might get a sense of whether the TPP is completely dead

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or maybe just a little bit alive, and there will also be discussions

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on the sidelines of the regional economic comprehensive partnership,

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China's competitive to the TPP. Even Nafta might come up given that

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Canada and Mexico will be there as well so a lot of the agenda will be

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keeping a close eye and we will be interested to see what comes out of

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it. We will talk to use them, have a

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great weekend! Let's quickly stay with the markets.

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That was the Dow yesterday closing on Wall Street, Asian market

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slightly higher. This is pretty much of the back of the better

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performance we saw overnight on Wall Street. A moderate recovery. If we

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look at Europe, following suit at the moment, but let's not forget the

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Trump slump has not fully gone away because the scandal surrounding the

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President's Administration is still pretty much in the headlines.

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On Thursday, the Trump administration notified Congress

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that it will start talks to renegotiate the North America

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Free Trade Agreement "as soon as practicable".

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President Trump has called the 1990s Nafta deal with Canada and Mexico

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a 'killer' of US jobs, and made shaking it

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It's a big worry for Mexico's huge auto industry and the global

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car-makers that have invested heavily there,

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The auto industry here has been booming for more than 20 years.

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The country is now the fourth largest car exporter in the world.

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It was meant to be a shining example of free trade, but today it's

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a monument to Donald Trump's brand of protectionism.

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These steel beams are all that's left of a $1.6 billion investment

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that Ford was making to build a plant here.

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Jose Puebla Ortiz shows me the deed to the land he sold to Ford.

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With the money, he bought a truck to work on the Ford plant.

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For a while, life was good - but it didn't last.

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TRANSLATION: Some people came to the plant and sent us home.

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They said there was no entry any more.

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The trucks couldn't go in any more, it all collapsed.

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Not just for the truckers but for everyone.

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Ford is keen to emphasise the market forces which drove the decision

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to abandon its plant in San Luis Potosi, but CEO

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Mark Fields admits presidential rhetoric is also a factor.

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At the end of the day, we have to do what's right

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for our business and of course the administration and the Congress,

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they have the ability to look at tax policy,

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trade policy etc, and that's the business

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And now Donald Trump has set about renegotiating the entire

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North American Free Trade Agreement, or Nafta, but a more protectionist

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US administration could undoubtedly do great harm to many livelihoods

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Michelle Fleury, BBC News, San Luis Potosi.

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Joining us is Lucy MacDonald, CIO, Global Equities

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Thank you for coming in. Let's talk about the Trump slump that we have

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seen this week. There has been some reversal in the markets, why is

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that? Two reasons, one is that the level of cash is still quite high,

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around 5%, so there is cash available and I think the second

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reason is corporate profits are still quite strong so the earnings

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season is coming through, broadly across the world we have seen

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companies upon earnings but also on sales. Those two things mean there

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are some fundamental underlying strengths, despite the fact that you

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do have relatively high valuations in the US in particular and the

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prospect of liquidity being taken out of markets by the Fed. So it is

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going to be between those two factors, in the meantime volatility

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was very low, we have had increasing spikes of volatility and I think we

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will get more of that. I noticed yesterday we saw a lot of the

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emerging market currencies go... I asked an expert, why are they

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dropping? He said, the US. Emerging economies rely on US growth, if the

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US isn't growing, they are not growing. That is right, yesterday

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the trigger was Brazil, and when there is a concern things tend to

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correlate, you get the rising volatility and a rise population and

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that is what we saw, so all emerging markets behaved as if they were

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Brazil, so in the long term you are right, they depend for their growth

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on the US. You are going to come back later?

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We will be talking about some of President Trump's policies,

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including perhaps paid maternity and paternity leave for families in the

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US. We will have to see. We look back at the past

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week in business, when US markets had their worst day

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since the presidential election, and the economy was the main

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focus in the UK election. That's all ahead with our business

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editor, Simon Jack. You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. One of Britain's airports

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is moving its control tower around 100 miles away

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from the actual runway. London City Airport is to become

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the first in Britain to abandon its bird's-eye view

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of the runway and use digital technology to

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monitor planes remotely. They say it will make managing

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the planes safer and more efficient. Theo Leggett can tell us

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more about whether this Yes, that is what they are saying.

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At the moment at London City Airport as with many others, the controller

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is looking after the aircraft when it are on the ground, their

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movements had to be choreographed carefully as you can imagine and it

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is done by people looking out of the window basically. What the British

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air traffic control people are trying to do is, instead of having

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that tower with people looking out of the window, you have a whole

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range of high definition cameras and the images from them will be beamed

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onto a large screened against the wall in this remote controlled

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centre. These are not small screens like with CCTV monitoring stations,

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they are big things that look like Windows and they are piping in sound

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as well so for the controllers it is as if they are there themselves. And

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on those screens, they will be able to put up radar data and things like

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that to make their life easier. What they are saying is that this will be

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a better solution than having people in a control tower at London City

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Airport looking out of the window. We have seen what cyber attacks, the

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havoc they can wreak on services, so what about air traffic control, is

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there not a risk of blackout? This is the obvious concern when you do

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anything remotely but the people in charge of this say that it is proven

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technology, it has been used in Sweden since 2015, and they say they

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have a lot of redundant system so if one part, if it goes down, another

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can take over and they say it will be absolutely safe. Obviously safe.

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Thank you. Lyon, the healthy fast food chain,

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wants to take on the US. They are helping to fund expansion with a ?25

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million investment of cash? We will see if it works.

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France gets ready for Macron economics.

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But does the new president have the right formula to bring

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The S 500 and the Dow saw their biggest one-day

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fall since September, this week, as investor hopes for tax

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cuts and other pro-business policies faded after reports that US

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President Donald Trump tried to interfere with a federal

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investigation, setting off alarm bells on Wall Street.

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And here in the UK, the Conservatives launched

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their election manifesto, with social care shake-up as one

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With all parties having pledged their election manifestos,

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what do they mean for people and the economy?

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Well, let's find out with our business editor Simon Jack.

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We have dragged Simon in on a Friday. I'm always here on a Friday!

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Before we talk about the UK manifestos, let's touch on the Trump

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slump. I was interested in what Lucy had to say, we should put it in

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context, there was the worst one-day fall for many months on Wednesday,

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down 373 points, but it has been on a hell of a tear them up 16% since

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the election. When you have had a run like that, people look for

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moments to take some chips off the table and bank some profit. We have

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also had incredibly low volatility which is unusual. People got

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skittish about it. What matters is what you mentioned about a tax

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reform, if people think that is in jeopardy, that has been driving the

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market, yes, corporate earnings, but the idea that the burden on

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businesses will be reduced by major tax reform. Everybody seems to agree

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in the US that that needs to happen. Even though Donald Trump might be

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having his troubles with his FBI director and what have you, if you

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thought the tax reform plan was in danger you would see some falls in

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the stock market. It looks pretty well valued and a lot of people

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think it looks a bit hot. And looking ahead to possible

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interest-rate rises by the Fed next month, still likely that will

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happen. The market are figuring 70, 80% probability of that happening

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and also, as bonds begin to fall at interest rates go up, some people

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are thinking that one of these days, the great rotation from buying

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bonds, people say it has been a good market for a while, this is

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government debt. As interest rates go up and inflation begins to pick

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up, stocks are more attractive because you get a bit of inflation

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protection because the goods and services companies sell go up in

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line with rising prices. It is a much more inflation safe investment.

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A better return at the end of the day. Quickly switching gears, the UK

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political parties, their manifestos are out, the election pledges. On

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this menu of options, some strong flavours compared to previous years.

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You have the Labour Party wanting to nationalise the railways and

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renationalise the Royal Mail and get involved in the energy companies. A

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very left-wing agenda from the Labour Party. What you would expect

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from Jeremy Corbyn who has been setting that store ad for some time

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but what is perhaps more contract that swagger more surprising, the

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Conservatives used to say, the markets get on with it -- what is

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more surprising. A massive change in tone, they are saying Babel capped

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energy prices and get involved in markets, have a close look at any

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takeovers make sure they are any public interest. Much more of a

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lurch to the left the right if you like. I have family visiting from

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Australia, and they were saying, they were stunned. If they are

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watching, they are lefties, labour, but they are saying that the Tory

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manifesto is something like the Labour Party. It could read like an

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old Labour Party manifesto and the interesting thing is, businesses I

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have been talking to chief executives and getting their

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reaction, and they say at the moment they feel pretty friendless, being

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duffed up from the left and the right! Nobody wants or needs

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business endorsement at the moment. The political climate has changed

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and hanging out with the most rich and powerful people, the tourist

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used to be relaxed about it but they may have realised it does not go

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down well also -- the Tories used to be relaxed. The business community

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is feeling a bit worried that their interests are not being noted. Thank

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you very much. In a moment we'll take a look

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through the business pages, but first here's a quick reminder

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What other business stories has the media been

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Lucy MacDonald, CIO, Global Equities at Allianz Global Investors

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Thank you for coming back, you have been going through the pages and the

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interesting stories in the Washington Post is that the US could

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get the first family benefit under President, but will we see this

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given the spotlight on the federal investigation? Will this be a policy

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he can push through? It would be quite radical. Will any of them get

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through?! The tax reform is most important, but this is catching up

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with the rest of the civilised world. 21st-century America. Getting

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a bit more support for working parents really. That is what we have

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in Europe. And we can see that it is entirely compatible with business

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working well. And it has come at a point where there are a lot of other

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federal cuts going on across-the-board and it seems like

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it is Ivanka Trump that is pushing this through. That is what is said

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and it's not ridiculous. For the uninitiated who might not know the

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American system, they get two weeks, a mother gets two weeks of maternity

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and paternity probably doesn't exist. It really is not very

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civilised. Compared to what is in Europe. What have you chosen for the

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second story? This is a fizzy drink that is taking Australia by storm!

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Have you heard of this? It is a new fizzy drink that is low sugar and it

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is giving Coca-Cola run its money. There is real opportunity here.

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There is and you can see it across the food and factoring areas with a

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trend towards healthy food and drink. That is not surprising. I

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haven't actually had any myself so I can't comment. I will have to ask my

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Australian family, I have never heard of it. It is green the base.

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It is seems like the healthy eating market is the way to go. It is a

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clear trend. In all consumer markets, it is a very long

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structural trend and it doesn't surprise me. Have a great weekend,

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we did not even talk about the painting. 110 million!

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Aaron is launching his new show in the afternoon soon, it is his last

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day today. Goodbye! The last half year or so across the

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UK the weather has

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