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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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The taxi app looks set for a major shakeup after an investigation

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Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday 13th June.

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Uber boss Travis Kalanick is under fire for a corporate culture

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Also in the programme, the Australian casino group Crown

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says 18 of its workers have been arrested in China,

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markets across Europe look like this.

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We'll meet the woman whose app is designed

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to give you personalised medical assessments.

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And as the world's worst airports are named and shamed,

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But today we want to know, what's your worst airport experience?

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I bet you think you have not got time and 140 characters is not

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enough! Plenty of experiences terrible

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airports when I was based in the Middle East, we will save that for

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little later! Let's get started, a lot to get through today.

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Uber has become a household name around the world

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But the taxi-hailing service is on an increasingly bumpy road.

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The San Francisco based firm has announced the departure of another

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executive as it prepares to publish a report into its corporate

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It's been put together by former US Attorney General Eric Holder

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and is expected to recommend sweeping changes.

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It was commissioned after former engineer Susan Fowler

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wrote a blog complaining of persistent sexual harassment.

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Uber promised it would investigate. But hers wasn't the only complaint.

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The company's been forced to fire more than 20 people

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after uncovering 215 other allegations of harassment.

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Uber's also seen a string of high-profile resignations

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in recent months - including its chief financial

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officer and now senior vice-president Emil Michael.

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on the chief executive and co-founder, Travis Kalanick.

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In March, a video of him getting into a foul-mouthed row

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and he was forced to make a very public apology.

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Carrie Osman is chief executive at the business consultants Cruxy.

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Good to have you on the programme. Uber has been a disruptive, it has

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been an headline is from the get go, it has been aggressive in its

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methods for taking over taxi surfaces around the world, but now

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all the headlines are for the wrong reasons, what are we going to find

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out today? Obviously, this all-star did with Susan Fowler and her

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blogged post which named a number of things from the sexism that was

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rife, talks of people grabbing body parts, parties where Beyonce may

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play on the rooftop, but behind closed doors there is drug abuse

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going on, and also what is going on, and also what is

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concerning is the way this goes from the root to tip of the business. It

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seems like it comes from the very top all the way down, so from the

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interview where Travis Kalanick talks about how it has done great

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things for his sex life, all the way through to Susan Fowler being

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promised a leather jacket that never arrived, and she was told it was

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part of learning a lesson as a woman, that she wanted equality. As

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you talk and give us more insight into the company, it sounds like a

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Hollywood film, I am thinking of various actors in my mind right now,

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but to put this in perspective, it really is quite horrific to hear all

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of that, in a sense, with this company so big and in terms of what

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it does all over the world and those that work for the company. Will we

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see a real change in culture at this company? So we have a lot of

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companies with cultural change, and it is about getting to the crux -

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what is the mindset that needs to shift. Obviously, it needs to start

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at the top, the board can have this investigation led by Arianna

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Huffington, but if individuals in the firm do not change their mind

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set, then clearly nothing is going to change when it comes to action.

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We always talk about every contact leaving a trace, so from getting the

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medical health records of someone who accused her Uber driver of

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raping her in India, all the way through to these parties, as we have

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spoken about, it is all there to have it blasted on your Silicon

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Valley walls that he will always be hustling, but if you don't pull that

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through into sensible corporate behaviour, it is now a $60 billion

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valuation, it needs to start to grow up, and I think part of that these

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two come from the top. We appreciate your time and your insight. We will

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fill you in as there is more news. Let's take a look at some of

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the other stories making the news. The company behind some of Britain s

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leading tourist attractions, such as Madame Tussauds,

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Legoland and the London Eye, say visitors numbers

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have been falling. Merlin Entertainments says

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people have been put off by the recent terror attacks

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in Manchester and London. Nonetheless, it says trade has been

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in line with expectations, partly because more than 70% of last year s

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profits were made outside the UK. A lucrative part of the City

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of London's financial trading could be forced to move

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to continental Europe The European Commission is expected

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to say later that it wants the EU to regulate the clearing

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of euro-denominated transactions. At the moment, nearly $1 billion

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worth of such trades Toshiba says it s facing

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another lawsuit over its $1.3 billion

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accounting scandal. This time, the embattled

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Japanese firm is being sued for about $400 million by a group

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of foreign investors. It means that the fallout

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from overstating its profits could cost the company nearly

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$1 billion in damages. The Australian casino company Crown

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says a group of its employees in China have been charged

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with promoting gambling. 18 workers,

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including three Australians, were arrested in raids

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back in October. Our Sydney correspondent

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Hywel Griffith joins us now. An interesting one, what is the

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company had to say about it? They have been pretty tight-lipped, to be

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honest, a very short statements to the Australian stock market, saying

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that those detained last year have now been charged, as you said, with

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promoting gambling. Now, gambling is illegal on the Chinese mainland, as

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is any attempt to promote or facilitate a group of people going

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overseas to gamble, for example in Australia. Crown has gaming licences

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in Sydney, Melbourne and Perth, and clearly there may be a lucrative

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market to tap into, but the Chinese government carried out raids last

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year and detained all those people. Now, we understand that 18, possibly

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19, will appear in court in Shanghai later this month. It is being seen

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in two ways, some suggesting, well, just barely a nationals could be

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back home by the end of the month, others saying it has taken so long

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because the Chinese government wants to make a statement over its gaming

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laws and how it controls what happens in its own territory. These

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are the numbers, the Japanese index down after Wall Street's big

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technology sell-off last night. Heavyweight SoftBank fell for a

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second day. US technology giants including Apple

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and Netflix Monday suffered another bruising session in New York -

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analysts say it's a bit of profit-taking after

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those record highs. Away from the politics,

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we get a series of updates for the economies across

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Europe this week. In the UK, we get the latest

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inflation figures in 45 minutes, expected to show rising prices

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eating away at incomes. and looks set to stay at this level

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in the latest numbers for May. A recent fall in oil prices

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could help price rises but inflation still a problem

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right around the world. But first Samira Hussain has

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the details about what's ahead The Federal Reserve

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begins its two-day meeting Now, the chair of America's central

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bank, Janet Yellen, has said that the strengthening labour market

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gives her confidence that inflation will get closer

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to their 2% target rate, but there are concerns

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that inflation is cooling. Also happening on Tuesday,

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Uber is expected to release the findings from its much

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anticipated report written by the former

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US Attorney-General Eric Holder. He was called in to investigate

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workplace culture and practices after allegations of sexual

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harassment at the ride-hailing firm. Now, the findings and

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the recommendations for improvement will be presented to Uber

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at an all-hands meeting. That is Samira Hussain, she will be

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busy today with the Federal Reserve and Uber as the day unfolds. Richard

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Dunbar is an investment director at Aberdeen Asset Management, your

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thoughts on the Fed, are you expecting a rate rise? I think we

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are expecting a rate rise tomorrow, Janet Yellen has been keen to get

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interest rates up to a more normal level. The US economy is in

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reasonable health, we have seen a little weakness over the last few

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weeks, which may have tempered some market enthusiasm, but I think that

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is where we're heading. How much are going up by? A quarter point,

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possibly another one by year end, but she is keen to get the price of

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money up to a more normal level, to get the US economy back to a more

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normal footing. We are going to hold you do that! Of course! Let's talk

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about the UK, and indeed across Europe, a whole load of data due

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this week, inflation data for the UK, expected to stay steady, but the

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inflation problem is a problem around the world, easing zone and a

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little bit in the US, but still a problem in the UK. Expected to be

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2.7% in the UK, unchanged, still above the 2% target that the Bank of

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England are charged with keeping inflation at. I think the Bank of

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England will save, as they have said before, that it is caused by weak

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sterling, a strong oil price, and we will look through that 2.7% and

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expected to revert to a more normal level in due course. But they will

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have to explain themselves and they do not put interest rates up to

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accommodate that. People in the UK are feeling it, aren't they?

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Consumer spending is reducing. Exactly, and that was one of the

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concerns of the time of the Brexit vote, that weakness in sterling

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would result in imported inflation prices going up through oil, and

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weaker sterling generally. Wages are not rising as fast, so that tightens

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people's spending ability. All right, Richard, our time is up, we

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will have to talk about Euro clearing another day, but we are

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keeping an eye on that very closely. Very interesting story, could have

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big implications. Still to come, just how

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smart is your smartphone? meet the woman who says her

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app can help give you But would you really trust

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a doctor in your pocket? First, before we talk medicine and

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prescriptions, let's answer this question - could be uncertain

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election result be good news for employers? The first employment

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survey since the general election saw a boost in employer confidence.

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Manpower thinks the chance of a softer Brexit, as a result of the

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hung parliament, could be good news for employers. James Hick is their

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managing director, talk us through this, employers have been saying all

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this uncertainty and chaos as far as Brexit and politics is concerned is

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bad news, but you suggested might be better news? Well, so far, so good.

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The jobs market has held up well through all of this and certainty,

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and as we go through this next phase of the Brexit process, the

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politicians might start to think much more pragmatically, because we

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are going to need thousands of people to support our jobs growth

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throughout the next year, two years. We are at the lowest level of

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unemployment for 40 years, so maybe there is pragmatic thinking about

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allowing more workers, having this less hard approach to Brexit to

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think through pragmatically how the jobs market is going to be supported

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from overseas workers. And what you are discovering at Manpower just

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highlights, I wouldn't say the confusion, but the mixed response we

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are getting, because yesterday we were looking at the Institute of

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Directors saying that 700 of its members have said their confidence

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had fallen significantly following Thursday's election. And many

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business leaders are really concerned about the outlook, even if

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it means the labour market may not be as tight as it would have been. I

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think everybody is concerned, I think that is right, and the

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business community equally so. But as we look forward to think through,

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we are going to get through the issues that we have a head of us,

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and we have to deal with what is here and now. At the moment, the

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economy looks strong, and we are going to have to be able to access

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the skills for the future - at all different levels of the economy and

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all different types of skills. So it is going to be important that

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flexibility and that pragmatism is introduced into this conversation.

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All right, James Hick, thank you for joining us, managing director of

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Manpower. Heineken and Punch merger. There is

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full details on the website. Uber

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publishes the recommendations of a major probe into its corporate

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culture today and it is thought they'll result in a major

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shakeup at the firm. Uber ordered the investigation

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after a high profile allegation Artificial intelligence

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is playing an ever more But how confident would you feel

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getting a medical assessment Well, our next guest believes

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she can put the power of medical knowledge at in your hands,

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thanks to artificial intelligence. Claire Novorol is a former doctor

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and the co-founder of Ada Health. The company launched

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its health app last year- The company launched

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its health app last year which aims to provide

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you with a personalised assessment of your symptoms

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which you can then take It does not aim to give a diagnosis,

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but to give you and your doctor a fuller picture of any medical

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problems and act as support The app is currently available

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in 155 countries and performs more Dr Clare Novorol is the co-founder

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of Ada Health and joins us now. Thank you very much indeed for

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coming in. Just tell us a little bit more about how this works. I just

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thought well a lot of people are doing this already, they are going

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on to search engines and putting in whatever they think they may have

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and reading the symptoms and diagnosing themselves that way,

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anyway? It is a personal health companion. It's powered by

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artificial intelligence and it is like having a doctor in your pocket.

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Right at the core of the app is symptom assessment. It has been

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trained by more than 100 doctors over the last six years and it's

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learning and improving every single day. So you download the app for

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free. You can tell it about your medical history. If you have an

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iPhone you are share your health care data and you enter your health

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symptoms and she asks symptoms back and fort like a good doctor would

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and tells you what might be going on, what might be the cause of your

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symptoms and what to do next. And what do you do next? Do you continue

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with Ada or go to your local doctor? When you have seen Ada's assessment,

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you can read more about the symptoms. Ada might tell you what is

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the appropriate next stepsment you can either take that report to your

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GP or connect with one of the Ada doctors on the app. You can share

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the assessment with an Ada doctor. The reason that this isn't just like

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using a search engine to find your symptoms, this learns and we talked

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about it being artificial intelligence. Tell me through that

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process that the app can learn and get smarter the more of these

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diagnosis? It is like going to medical school for six years and

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learning the information from textbooks and learning based on

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cases, having experts train the system, but now Ada is out in the

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real world. We launched Ada six months and we have had 1.2 million

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assessments performed and we have a new assessment performed every seven

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seconds and when users share the information with a doctor on the

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other side of the platform, doctors are helping to train Ada on what

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they would suggest is going on and the next step. So Ada is learning

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all the time. The app is free, the assessment is free, but when you get

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into a conversation with a doctor you have to pay for that, don't you?

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It's all free, but it is ?14.99 to share your assessment with an Ada

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doctor. The doctors are regulated I assume? All the doctors we work with

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in the UK are trained in the UK. They work in the NHS as well, many

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of them are GP partners in the NHS. And we're regulated by the Care

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Quality Commission. It was quite interesting. I was thinking about

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being in my GP surgeries and my doctor is on Ada! That's why I'm

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waiting! You might say, you sit down in front

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of the GP and they go through a list of routine questions anyway, they

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have got to ask them to get to the diagnosis. That's why I can see why

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an app would take some of that process away, but ultimately people

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want face-to-face interaction, don't they? They don't want to be dealing

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with a robot who would tell them it might be this and you're going to go

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to the doctor anyway. How would you square that circle? This is an app,

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but nonetheless, the challenge is really going to be convincing people

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that they can trust their health to a bit of technology? Sure. So the

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app is not trying to replace face-to-face consultations when

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face-to-face consultation is the right thing to do or what the

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patient wants, but we know that most people search online and they Google

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their symptoms and people are looking for more health information

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and more information about their symptoms from the moment they

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experience a symptom before they go to see a doctor and that's where Ada

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comes in and if it's appropriate you can chat with a doctor via the app

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and our doctors will often advice if it's something that should be seen

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face-to-face that the next step is to go and see a doctor. We are

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assuming that everybody has access to doctors when we talk about this

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app, but I imagine there is applications for people that, you

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know, are in parts of the world where it is very difficult to get

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doctors who can get the diagnoses early on? So here in the UK we're

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lucky to have access to a fantastic NHS and doctors and we might have a

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bit of a wait sometimes, but there are parts of the world where

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hundreds of millions of people don't have any access at all to a doctor.

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We know, we have... Can they awe ford to pay to talk to your doctors

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though, that's the question? So what we do know is that, we have

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thousands, tens of thousands of people in countries like Africa,

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India, various parts of the world who have a cheap android phone the

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they don't have access to a doctor, but they have an android phone or

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somebody in their village does and they're using Ada and we have

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feedback every day from people using Ada and we are partnering with

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organisations and governments in those countries actually to provide

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Ada doctor chat for free to those people. It is really fascinating. We

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appreciate you coming in. Now, staying with tech,

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but of the gaming kind. In LA, the games industry

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is having its annual shindig. The Electronic Entertainment Expo,

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better known as E3 is the industry's chance to lay out its new ideas

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for the next couple of years. 15,000 people are going

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to be at E3 this year. It's the biggest gaming show

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in the world and for the first time in its 24-year history the general

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public will be allowed It could make things

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a bit more exciting, but it does also pile

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on the pressure for the big games publishers to do more than ever

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to impress their loyal fans. Microsoft were, as ever

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first out of the blocks, they announced the Xbox One X,

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a more powerful version It will improve the visuals

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of its games but not much else, and it comes in at $499 -

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that's twice the price It's going to be twice

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the price of a normal Xbox. You're going to need a great big TV

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to really feel the benefit. Are enough people going

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to go for that option Well, it's about giving gamers

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choice, and I think you and both know there is a certain customer

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wants the best in anything, and How many of those

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customers do you have? I think in the gaming

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community there is a large section of those customers,

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but the majority of the people that will come into Xbox One will come

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in through the Xbox One S. Next, it was time for

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Sony to show its hand. Unlike Microsoft, no new hardware,

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as the company has already released a more powerful version

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of its PlayStation. Instead it focussed on games,

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the headliner being Spider-Man. On Tuesday, the show floor opens up,

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and it's here we will see if the new games can start to live

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up to the hype and continue to fuel The worst airports and the best

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airports have been revealed in the press. Heathrow and Gatwick do not

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do well at all. You surprise me! Yeah, I think a lot of people will

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share their frustrations with Heathrow. They are both very busy

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airports and when things go wrong, you had the British Airways IT a

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couple of weeks ago, they go really badly wrong. Any disruption means a

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lot of pain and stress for passengers. Lots of tweets from

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people. James says LAX, non friendly. I seem to lose my baggage

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a lot. Beijing Terminal 3, Kuwait named worst in the world on qat,

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service and punctuality. Have you been through Kuwait? Yes, they

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always lose my bags. Having watched Heathrow grow, my frustration with

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Heathrow is how it has become a shopping mall with a couple of

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runways attached. I find that shopping experience, for me, I hate

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it. Shopping and coffee! They funnel you through the duty-free to make

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you buy stuff. I try on aftershave and then leave! Dominic, thank you

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very much indeed. Thank you too for your input. Sorry I'm just drawing

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on Ben's suit. We will see you soon. The same place tomorrow. Have a

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great day. Bye-bye. Good morning.

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We've had some sunshine this morning across southern parts of the UK, but

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for most of us it has been fairly cloudy this

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