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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Bland and Rachel Horne.

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Hundreds of top websites stage a protest over plans to scrap net

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Live from London, that's our top story on Wednesday 12th July.

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The changes would mean internet providers don't have to treat

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all our data equally, so what could America's changes mean

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Also in the programme: Calling Spotify's tune.

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The music streaming service signs a big deal to access Sony's music

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The markets are modestly higher across the main European indices. We

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will look at a sharp and at Wall Street on the day when the Federal

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Reserve chair is due to give testimony to congress.

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And from the up-start start-up to the boardroom.

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We meet Sophie Eden, the recruitment entrepreneur whose

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matching top tech talent with established names.

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And, as another new startup launches an online store selling unbranded

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consumer basics all for $3, we want to know, when it comes

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to your peanut butter or hand soap what's more important,

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Your tweets are already coming in. Keep them coming.

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Get ready to take a deep breath when you go online today

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because some of the most popular websites will be running slowly.

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Companies like Facebook, Netflix, and Amazon are taking part

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in a protest against changes being made to US rules

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If your internet provider is the road and the cars

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are content, then "net neutrality" stops the internet provider setting

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up a fast lane for those prepared to pay to get there quicker.

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Such a fast lane means the companies that can afford to use

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it can get their content, for example data heavy videos,

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Giving them an advantage over their competitors.

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The companies and activists behind today's action argue treating

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all internet traffic equally is a matter of fairness,

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limits censorship and ensures smaller companies are not

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disadvantaged simply because they have less money.

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Since President Trump took office the US Federal Communications

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Commission has voted to overturn "net neutrality" rules.

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It's new chair says doing so will encourage internet providers

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This is a contentious issue across the world.

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The countries in blue currently make sure all data is treated equally.

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Richard Kramer is the Founder and Managing Partner

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of Arete Research, which looks at technology shares for investors.

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Then mentioned the go slow that many of those big-name websites will be

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putting in today. Is that something users around the world will

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experience? It is something users will see globally if for no other

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reason than the companies participating well wanted to be

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global issue. What is the issue? It is about money and the restrictions

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that the FCC rules will place on carriers in the US required to give

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equal access the different content. You have the largest cable company,

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$200 billion companies collectively of sales, $70 billion of cash flow,

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investing $25 billion a year, so the notion this is deterring investment

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is fanciful. You have Google, Amazon and Netflix championing the rights

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of small businesses or smaller sites which might be disadvantaged in the

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name of free speech. The huge commercial enterprises who want to

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make sure they do not bear the cost of reaching the last mile to the

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consumer. Who should bear the cost? The consumer bears the cost in

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paying for their broadband and most consumers would believe that the

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provider should not tell them what they can consume in terms of

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content. In other plans you can have faster speeds, so there are ways to

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differentiate broadband services. Which content is provided is very

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contentious because it allows a company like a TNT, trying to take

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over Time Warner which owns HBO, to say they charge more for competitors

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of HBO's competitors than for their own services. It applies in other

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aspects of life. If you are prepared to pay more you can get a faster

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service, for example a toll road, there is one in the UK companies

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that can afford to use it their goods will get places faster, it

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gives them competitive advantage, is that not part of business? It says

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that I am going to decide which brand of car can ride on the road.

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But if they are willing to pay they can get on? From the content

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provider's point of view this would pass on the raise to consumers and

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chill the access of free speech. You would place on the hands of the

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provider is the power to decide which takes of content got through

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or to set the rules. In the case of the US broadband services about

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twice as expensive in the UK. It is a very contentious issue in terms of

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how the consumer ends up paying for the services. Thank you.

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Let's take a look at some of the other stories making the news.

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The US Department of Homeland Security says that it may

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soon lift the ban preventing passengers from taking

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A spokesman said that airlines flying from the four affecting

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Middle Eastern airports would need to demonstrate enhanced

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security measures before the restrictions were lifted.

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Takata is recalling nearly three million more airbags

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Faulty devices have been linked to 17 deaths and more

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What amounts to the biggest automotive recall in history.

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The sale of broadcast rights helped Premier League football clubs rake

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in $4.6 billion in the 2015 to 2016 season, this according

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TV rights accounted for more than half of all the income

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generated by top flight English football teams.

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The report said that a new domestic TV deal means overall revenues

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The music streaming service Spotify has signed a big deal

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It's being seen as crucial to the Swedish firm's plans to sell

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Monica Miller is in Singapore - what have they agreed?

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These Swedish music streaming services on its way to becoming

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going public. It covers Beyonce and Adele and has agreed to reduce

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royalty payments if sport of Phi restricts new albums to two weeks.

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It is on the back of a deal which represents more than 20,000

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independent labels. The online service has yet to turn a profit but

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that will allow them to cut down on its biggest expense, royalty

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payments to the music industry. It is in a much bigger position

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financially to leave the groundwork for a deal by the end of the year.

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It was recently valued at $13 billion. Thank you.

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A mixed picture for Asian shares on Wednesday.

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Tokyo's Nikkei closed lower - Japanese exporters took a hit

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as the dollar weakened against the yen.

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A relatively stronger yen makes their products more

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A big factor that could affect the dollar later is the testimony

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by Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen.

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She'll appear before Congress to update them on the state

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Investors will watch closely for clues about future

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On this side of the Atlantic, comments by the Deputy Governor

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of the Bank of England saying he's not ready to raise interest rates

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caused sterling to fall - hitting a two week low

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against the dollar and eight month low against the euro.

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Analysts will be watching for the latest employment

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data from the UK due in a couple of hours.

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That's how the equity markets look in Europe.

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And Michelle Fleury has the details about what's ahead

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Janet Yellen goes to Capitol Hill and investors want to know what she

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will say about interest rate policy. It is two days of testimony on

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Wednesday during her semi annual appearance before congress. She is

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likely to face questions about the economy, the path of interest rates

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and when the central bank plans to wind down its balance sheet.

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Regulatory issues are likely to come up. She has defended rules post on

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the big banks after the 2008 financial crisis. Republican critics

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argue the limit economic growth. This could be her final appearance

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before congress. Her four year term ended in February and Donald Trump

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has not indicated whether he plans to nominate her for a second term.

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Richard Dunbar is the Investment Director

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Sterling has hit a two mike legal against the dollar and eight month

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low against the euro. An interesting year. This time last year we were

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talking about European politics and the risk to the euro but it has been

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one of the best currencies in the world, up almost 15% against the

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dollar over the past year. We thought sterling was likely to be

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weak but it has been pretty strong against the dollar but weak against

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the euro. The movement on sterling, just how sensitive investors are to

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any clues about interest rate rises and the directions the central banks

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are taking, Stirling responding to comments by the deputy governor.

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Yes. From the central banks the message has been about getting

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interest rates up. That resulted in sterling rising but recent comments

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have countered that view. There is a feeling that the place of money is

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too low and they want to get that up. Janet Yellen is going to be

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speaking about what she believes is in store for the US economy. What do

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you expect her to see an do you expect much market reaction? The US

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economy is in pretty good health and has been managed pretty well by

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Janet Yellen and her team. She would like to get interest rates up a

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little but the problem is there is no inflation and that is her target.

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That is difficult. She feels the prize money is too low and it is

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causing perhaps irrational exuberance behaviour in markets and

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she would like to counter that. We so that when some shares were

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offered is. We talked about it yesterday. Falling below the initial

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offer price and the form that helped launch the shares has downgraded

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them below what it launched out. Investment bankers changing their

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view on things is perhaps not new but the scrutiny of the public

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markets on some of these what looked to me very expensive new issues on

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what is definitely per governments around how they are run, that

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scrutiny is causing problems and I expect we will see that continue

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with others in the pipeline. You will be back to discuss the papers.

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We get the inside track on the technology world.

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The Competition and Markets Authority has announced that Tesco's

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bid for Booker will be investigated further.

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The regulator says it has concerns about the impact the ?3.7 billion

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deal could have on small local stores.

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Katie Prescott is in our business newsroom.

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This goes back to the ?3.7 million deal between Tesco and Book of the

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wholesaler which owns convenience stores Budgens, Premier and Londis.

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It was seen as a bit of up perfect marriage when it was first announced

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in the competition and markets laboratory seemed to agree because

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they jumped on it. They had an initial look into what was going on

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and they were concerned there might indeed be competition issues. This

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morning they have said they have found 350 local areas where they

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think that showers and shops might be affected so they are selling it

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for a second look. What happens next? It will be looked at by

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another panel within the CMA who will look at the impact on shoppers

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than some of the shops that poker supplies. They have 24 weeks to do

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so so we should get a report into their findings by Christmas. Looking

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at the Tesco share price it is only down slightly, about 0.5%, though

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investors do not seem that bothered. Thank you. He thinks it is difficult

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for given that, he's not yet ready to raise interest rates. That has

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had a knock-on effect on the markets. We have already seen

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sterling suffering somewhat, having a bit of a fall, falling to an

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eight-month low against the euro. As Richard Dunbar was explaining, that

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is something that is quite interesting, if you look at how the

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euro was done over the past year, it has become a lot stronger. A picture

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of Mr Broadbent looking very relaxed, taking a relaxed attitude

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towards interest rates. You're watching Business Live -

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our top story... Some of the world's biggest internet

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companies are taking part in a protest against proposed

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changes to US rules on the equal treatment of internet traffic,

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or what's known as net neutrality. A quick look at how

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markets are faring.... The markets in Europe have been open

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for about 45 minutes. You can see they are all up there in the green.

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Markets around the world all waiting to hear from Janet Yellin, the chair

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of the Federal reserve of the US. She is due to be speaking in the

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afternoon. Any more tightening of monetary policy will see some sort

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of impact on market trade. Let's get the Inside Track

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on what it takes to attract the brightest minds in the highly

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competitive tech industry. Gordon Eden is a London-based

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recruitment firm, which was It works with some of the world's

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biggest companies, including HSBC, The company is in hot demand,

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and not just from clients. It's already rejected

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five takeover approaches We're joined by Sophie Eden,

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co-founder of Gordon Eden. Good to have you with us, welcomed

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the Business Live. So you look for young, savvy tech start-up people,

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and match them to more established companies. What gave you that idea?

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We set up Gordon Eden three and a half years ago, and we felt at the

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time there was no search firm that truly operated across post of those

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industries, in terms of the start-up space and the traditional corporate

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's. We felt that traditional corporate is needed to innovate,

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protect themselves from future disruption, and we were looking to

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the start-up community to find some of that talent in order to do that,

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and on the flip side start-ups were being funded, and they needed people

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from the corporate world, in order to help them to scale and achieve

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their business goals. So we set up the business in order to connect

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those two worlds together, and the other thing is as well, because a

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lot of businesses kind of ignore a lot of that start-up community,

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because believe they can't pay the traditional search fees, you kind of

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lose access to that talent pool. Recruitment businesses? Absolutely.

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So you are trying to match high-flying tech minds, perhaps

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younger than these companies might naturally recruit, the very

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established, perhaps more traditional firms. Is there a

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reluctance by some of the people you are trying to recruit a go into the

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traditional firms, because they might find it perhaps more exciting

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or edgy to work for a start-up, a smaller company where they feel they

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have more influence and can move more quickly? A few years ago there

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was much more of a them and us culture and they was a bit more push

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back, but there is much more movement between the two worlds now.

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A tech mind, as you say, is also very excited by the opportunity to

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scale something, to have such a wide audience, to have the funds to do

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that as well, because sometimes it can be frustrating operating on a

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shoestring budget. So to be to do that in a big corporate with a big

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branding scale is very exciting and a different challenge. Corporates

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are much more open to having these mines in the businesses because they

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need to adapt and they know that. You have only been running for three

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and a half years, five takeover bids. How does that feel? It feels

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great, very exciting. I think particularly in the current climate

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we really believe in what we are doing and we really believe that

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there is a huge opportunity, and it is very exciting to be working with

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businesses that feel that too. That is energising and exciting. There's

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a huge amount of change going on, a lot of investment going into these

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businesses, and so for us at Gordon businesses, and so for us at Gordon

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Eden it is about doing what we are doing and keeping doing it and

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supporting these businesses grow. Reading a little bit about some of

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the work you have done with some of the bigger brands, there was one

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panel where you were recruiting and you had Mark Zuckerberg on the

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panel, where you sitting alongside him? We weren't in the interview

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ourselves, but it is high stakes, we are looking for needles in

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haystacks, so we pride ourselves on being able to do that, again based

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on the access to a talent for that we don't believe others have. So if

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someone is watching and they think they might fit the bill, what is the

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key thing you are looking for, that would make someone stand out? It is

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an attitude and an approach, more than anything. It is being able to

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work in lots of different environments, and is changing and

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moving environments. Since 2001, three .5 million new jobs have been

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created down the new technology, so it is constantly evolving and

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changing, and that is why so many young successful people who have

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been able to do well in both those arenas. You are doing this in

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London, are there any other companies doing this worldwide, or

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are you thinking about punching out globally? 30% of our business is in

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the US. We stay true to what we're good at but we also have experience

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of placing people in parts of Europe and also Australia, and we move

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people across. A lot of our searches are global, in terms of the

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candidate pulls we're looking at. Do people get an e-mail out of the

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blue, a phone call? We spend a huge amount of time networking, I have

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over ten years experience, my business partner has 20, we spend

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all our day meeting people and networking. It is not just a case of

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sending an e-mail or picking up the phone, because these people get

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approached probably about 30 times a day, so having access to those

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networks is critical, as well as keeping a fresh approach. Thank you

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very much. The head of US bank JP Morgan,

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one of the City of London's biggest employers, has told the BBC that

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Brexit could easily mean many of his 16,000 UK employees

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lose their jobs in London. Jamie Dimon was speaking

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to our business editor Simon Jack Simon Jack in Paris,

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as the new French government made another pitch for bankers

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to relocate to Paris after the UK In the negotiating table you

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sometimes relies the other person has more cards, and there is no

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question that Europe has more cards to play. You one say 4000 jobs, new

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say that it may well be true? Sure, easily. Even more? I am hoping it is

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just a few hundred. We hope it is none, but yes, we are negotiating

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with Germany how many. You have seen countries arguing for example, we

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want our data centres in the country, and that will become part

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of the trade negotiation, and yet we don't know the outcome.

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What other business stories has the media been

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Richard Dunbar, Investment Director at Aberdeen Asset

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Richard Dunbar, Investment Director at Aberdeen Asset Management,

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We will start with that Twitter question, this company, brand lust,

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introduces $3, selling everything the $3, basic consumer condiments,

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peanut butter and Mermoz, and they say that people Trevor Pryce over

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brand. -- and mayonnaise. -- people don't for price over brand. People

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said it spends how ethical the products are. One says taste and

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quality as the deciding factor. This one says it depends on what type of

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goods, but mostly it's the price that affects my choice. Richard,

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what affects your choice? I don't believe that it is just the price,

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my daughter and her generation, even our generation, I think brands are

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still pretty popular. I can see a place of this in the market. What is

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interesting is that it's brand is that it is brand less. I think that

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story will not last long, I suspect people like proper brands, and

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something they can get their teeth into and feel they have got

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something of value and looks good. We are saying earlier about the

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brand-new have had in your family household from when you were growing

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up can affect you. I remember thinking, what washing powder do I

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buy, and I have used the same one of since. The company say that

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millennials are not interested in the brands of their parents or

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perhaps not even interested in brands, but identify that. They are

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interested in their own brands and companies -- but I don't buy that.

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New York Times, a baker 's crusade rescuing the famed French blue

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lingerie. This is interesting, perhaps that surely all of us have

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been in France can spent two weeks in France and enjoy the bread and a

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copy in the sunshine. But the problem is we are there for two

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weeks and then we go away, and the trends that affect bread sales

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globally are the same as in France. People go to supermarkets, more

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healthy eating and there is not the demand was. But that the lingerie in

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every town, and there is a real focus and -- that boulangerie. It is

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very much part and parcel of the experience, but not just bus when we

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dip in and disappear but it is people's livelihoods. These are

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traditionally very small, what they call mum and pop businesses, who

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would struggle to survive unless they have that regular custom. Thank

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you very much. There will be more business news

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throughout the day on the BBC Live web page and on World Business

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Report. Hello, good morning. A lot of cloud

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to start the day, with heavy, persistent rain across southern and

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south-eastern parts of England, the conditions

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