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Live from London, that's our top story.

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Corruption, Recessions and unemployment have dogged

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South Africa in recent years and today the man at the top

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President Zuma could be forced to go in a secret parliamentary vote.

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And money-laundering allegations that could lead to a theoretical

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fine of close to $800 billion have lead to the boss of

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Commonwealth Bank somewhat unsurprisingly losing his bonus.

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And markets in Europe have started their trading day. Slightly down on

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the day and we'll explain why. And we'll be getting

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the inside track on the surprisingly profitable world of babaysitting

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and the company that's trying to turn it from a job for students

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into a global business. We want to know today which app

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could you not live without? Let us know. Use the hashtag business live.

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President Zuma of South Africa faces a no confidence vote in parliament

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today and as it's being held in secret there's a real chance

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that he could be kicked out of office by the end of the day.

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Mr Zuma has survived no-confidence votes previously

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but this time the stakes, both political and economic,

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Mr Zuma has been under constant pressure over everything

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from corruption allegations to a controversial cabinet

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reshuffle that saw his widely respected finance minister,

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That prompted two of the world's leading credit rating agencies;

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Standard and Poor's and Fitch, to downgrade South Africa's credit

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worthiness to junk hugely increasing borrowing costs

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And in June South Africa once the continents largest economy fell

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And figures out yesterday show the country's unemployment rate

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remained unchanged at close to 28% in the second quarter.

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That's about 6.2 million people out of work.

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Dr Joachim Wehner is a South Africa expert

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Nice to see you. Welcome to the programme. Running through some of

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the background to this there. It's worth restating why South Africa is

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in this position. The economic picture looks pretty dire right now?

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That's true. And you have to see it in the context. For 20 years after

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the end of apartheid, South Africa worked extremely hard to establish a

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reputation for economic credibility and good economic management, for

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short periods the first Finance Minister who Jacob Z uma fired

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triggered the week in 2015 where South Africa went through three

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Finance Ministers when the space of a few short days. So Mr Zuma has put

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the credibility of South Africa at risk. How much of this can be blamed

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on President Zuma? There are some factors that are out of his hands,

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one can say, for example the drought. Successive droughts in

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South Africa, weak global demand for mining output for example, that is

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dampening prospects for the mining sector in South Africa. But the

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ratings agencies have emphasised what they see as a major problem is

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Mr Zuma's handling of the institutional framework for the

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economic system and that has done a huge amount of damage in undermining

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the credibility that so many Finance Ministers have worked hard over 20

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years to establish. And so the uncertainty that now comes from this

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vote, interesting that we heard over the weekend the vote will take place

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in secret, that could affect the outcome significantly? That's very

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true. It's probably the first time that there is a realistic chance

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this might go through, this vote. It's probably not the most likely

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outcome because the electoral system in South Africa is based on close

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list proportional representation, that means MP who is sit in

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Parliament, it's the African National Congress in particular. If

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we get this vote today and he's ousted from office, the question I

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suppose is who would replace them? Is there a willing candidate,

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certainly from an economic point of view someone who would restore

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credibility? I think you have put your finger on the right issue here.

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Getting rid of Mr Zuma is only the very first step and a few questions

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arise here - how long can he cling on to power? He's proven himself to

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be extremely intelligent so it wouldn't surprise me if he stays

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until 2019. The second question then arises who will replace him. There

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is a struggle in the ANC now. A camp Mr Zuma's tried to Foster, a

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successor, his former wife who would probably protect him once he leaves

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office, make sure he's not exposed to legal proceedings or a more

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reformer camp led by a current deputy President. Interesting times

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certainly as far as the implications are concerned. Dr Joachim, really

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good to see you, thank you very much.

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Let's take a look at some of the other stories making the news.

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The Google employee who wrote a memo critical of the firm's diversity

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initiatives has been fired from the company.

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A male software engineer argued the lack of women in top tech jobs

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was due to biological differences between men and women.

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Google's chief executive responded by saying the contents of the memo

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are fair to debate but some of what was written

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A Scottish comic book company has been bought

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It's the first ever acquisition by Netflix but they haven't said giw

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Millarworld is run by the Scottish writer

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The deal gives Netflix access to a host of new characters

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to develop films, TV series and children's shows.

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The worlds biggest hotel chain Marriott is going to team up

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with Alibaba to tap into the growing number of Chinese tourists.

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Marriott International says the joint venture will allow Chinese

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travellers to book rooms using Alibaba's travel website

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Australia's Commonwealth Bank has scrapped its bosses bonus

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for damaging the bank's reputation amid allegations it broke

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money-laundering and counter-terrorism financing laws...

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Hywel Griffith is in Sydney, Australia.

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Hywel, this could be a humongous fine. Tell us more about this story?

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Absolutely. Some of the numbers here are staggering. The bank is accused

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of over 53,000 breaches of anti-money laundering laws and each

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one of those could potentially carry a $14 million US Dollar fine. It's

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accused of not making proper checks on intelligent money depositing

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machines, the hole in the wall where you can put money in as well as take

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it out. Customers are able to put in up to 200 high value notes but the

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checks weren't being made, as they were meant to be, on the provenance

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on the where that money was going to, so the money could be

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transferred domestically or internationally without the checks

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being made. The bank argues it's down to a single coding error,

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saying they should only really face one fine. It's all going to be

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decided in a federal court of claw. What has already been decide suicide

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the bank's Chief Executive and board members are going to suffer

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somewhat. The Chief Executive losing his bonus for this year, as will the

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senior executives and the board members taking a cut in their pay.

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But potentially the cost could be much greater in future, some

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analysts predicting the whole decade of growth for the bank wiped out if

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they face the maximum fine. Sounds very, very costly indeed. For now,

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thank you very much. Let us show you how the day went in general in the

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Asian markets. Japan taking a breather from the ten-year highs it

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reached yesterday, whereas Hong Kong up nearly half a percent. That is

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the night before, the Dow still going up-and-up above 22,000, way

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above that now. It's quite interesting how that just doesn't

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seem to end, that run on the share markets in the United States. Let's

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move on to Europe very quickly. Lots of earnings coming out in Europe

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still. Note as busy as last week. Standard Life reporting a rise in

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profits, also we have ASOS talking about expansion in the US in

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Atlanta. Retail sales falling though in the UK, so a flat day, if not a

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downbeat day for Europe. And Michelle Fleury has

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the details about what's ahead Jane Foley will join us later and

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people will be tuning in to see what is said. Her message is likely to

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emphasise that whilst the economy may not be overheating, the recovery

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in the US is strong enough for it to consider another rate hike this

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year. But will incoming economic data reinforce that argument? Two

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pieces to watch this Tuesday is the case Schiller House Price index.

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Uber's search for a new CEO meanwhile continues, after the

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resignation of the CEO last week. There are a few in the running.

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Joining us is Jane Foley, Senior Currency Strategist, at Rabobank.

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Good morning, Jane. We picked this story up in Bloomberg. It's an

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interesting problem to have. Warren Buffett has too much money. Why is

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that news, we knew that already? ! But what is he going to do with it.

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This is a problem. This is a company that doesn't pay dividends. He is a

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pilot of cash. Cash doesn't earn much in terms of return. His problem

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is where to invest. There is a small pool of companies he'd be willing to

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consider. He's made the point that it would be much more fun if the

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phone were to ring and business propositions were to fall his way,

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but as it stands, there is some difficulty trying to know where to

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put all of that money. Lovely to have that problem. This graph shows

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how he's managed to rack up the money. 99.7 billion dollars at the

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end of the second quarter. He's got all these great businesses making

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money but he's notoriously picky? But you have to remember he's been

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doing this for the best part of 50 years so this is a long-standing

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investment but that is exactly right. He's very picky. Some

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companies he owns are really well-known ones, Apple is another

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one. He's been known to invest also in utilities. Texas and Rail Road

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are a couple of them. Very picky, relatively diverse in that sense but

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only a small amount of companies. We'll be back soon. Really

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interesting stories to discuss with you later. If you are a parent, stay

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with us. Intercontinental Hotels Group has

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just reported an 8% jump in half year operating profit and we've been

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speaking to their new boss. You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. Retailers experienced slowing sales

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last month as households reined in their spending amid mounting

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pressure on their finances. According to the latest figures

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from the British Retail Consortium and KPMG, sales grew by 0.9%

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in July, down from 1.1% Theo Leggett is in our

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Business Newsroom. They came from a strong set of

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figures last year so this year it's hard to keep up? Yes, last year was

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particularly strong. On the surface, these figures from this year don't

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actually look too bad. They are showing slow but steady growth

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throughout the year. What is worrying is, if you look beneath the

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surface because nearly all of the growth was accounted for by sales of

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food. In fact over the past three months taken as a whole, nonfood

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sales have declined and when it comes to food sales, it's not about

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more food being sold, it's about prices going up as well. That is

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accounting for the increase. The broad picture there is not so good.

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The BRC has a warning in all of this as well, saying that because real

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wages are declining, there is a smaller pool of consumer wealth out

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there to draw from and there's a lot of competition among retailers. That

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is where it gets political because the BRC says given the outlook for

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consumers is so tough, the Government needs to make sure it

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keeps tariff free trade with the EU as a priority in Brexit talks.

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Pretty much everybody is talking about what they want from Brexit

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talks at the moment but that is the BRC's take on it. Also the issue of

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online versus high street, bricks and clicks, you have got to be be

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successful if both in this environment where it's getting

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tougher in terms of people spending? Absolutely. That is what the best

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retailers are doing. Over the past month, in-store shopping and online

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retailing grew. If you look over the past three months, a slightly longer

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time frame, then in-store sales have declined and declined by a

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reasonable margin, whereas online sales have gone up by about 8% in

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the same period, so online sales still growing.

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For the rest of the business news, you can check out the web page. ASOS

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spending $40 million on a new warehouse in Atlanta.

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You're watching Business Live. Our top story:

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The South African President, Jacob Zuma,

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is facing one of the most testing episodes of his rule.

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The speaker of parliament has announced that a no confidence vote

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Pauline says, "I could live without them all, but Twitter keeps me

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posted on a variety of stuff." Another viewer says "BBC News."

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Another viewer says fit bit." What do you use the most? Twitter and the

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BBC News app, of course. I'm a weather app person, but then you

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have a dog and I have to walk regularly.

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We use apps to solve all sorts of day to day problems.

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Food delivery, taxi services and shopping.

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But would you trust an app to find someone to look after your children?

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Making sure children are looked after while you're working is a big

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One charity found that 75% of parents would assess

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their childcare before taking a new job or promotion.

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The same survey found 30% of parents say they feel burnt

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Some extra help can, of course, help with that.

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For many parents, the biggest issue can be finding

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Yoopies is a new start-up hoping to change all of this.

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It's a website which connects parents

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We have the boss with us. Benjamin thank you very much of thank you

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very much indeed for coming into Business Live. Tell us how this

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started. You're not a parent, are you? I'm not, but I have three

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sisters and when I finished my studies two of them had become a

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mother. I the couldn't have a proper dinner with them, there were always

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childcare issues. I realised they only had two choices. Either they

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rely on expensive agency or a local newspaper that was not trusted

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enough to find a great sitter so then I realised there was a huge

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opportunity to create a trustworthy environment for baby-sitting,

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childcare and home care services. Let's talk about that trust.

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Obviously the website then makes it easier to do verification checks,

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criminal record checks, how does that work? All the sitters are

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verified are DBS checked. We verify their ID and we use the power of

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online social media for our usersment people can link their

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Yoopies account to with their Facebook account and they can see

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that any friends or friends of friends who already have recommended

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a baby-sitter. So we check the word of mouth and we put it on the

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internet. This started in France. You've spread across a lot of

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Europe. You've bought a UK in the UK Find A Baby-sitter.com. Sour

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aexpanding here as well. It is a really, really crowded market, not

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just apps like yours, but many other Facebook pages or websites or online

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services that provide everything you need if you are a parent including

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baby-sitters. Sure, but we do provide a comprehensive service that

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goes from finding the perfect match to online booking and payment. We

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assist with all Government assistance. So basically you can

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find a perfect sitter within ten minutes. We only have five persons

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of our best sitters that are selected for emergency care and we

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provide all the rest. So the people can find trustworthy people easy.

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How do you make sure you get your money for your services provider? I

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jumped on your website this morning and I searched for a baby-sitter for

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me and gave it a test and a great baby-sitter was matched to me and I

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sent her a message and she is a mile away from my house, I can meet her

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for a coffee and decide what I want and I don't have to pay you. Most of

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the times usually you want to talk to a few of them and we are charge a

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monthly fee for people to actually get... I haven't met her yet. If we

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get on, I don't really need to pay you a fee, do I? You have to pay a

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fee at first to get unlimited contacts with our baby-sitters, our

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nannies on the website. So you will have to pay first ?30 and then you

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can actually meet with her and have great childcare for your kids. Not

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just about Its childcare. It will let you find other things. Your plan

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is to roll out into the workplace as well? Exactly. This is interesting.

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It might moon you could get food delivered to our desk and book a

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massage or get someone to take your dry cleaning and laundry. That's

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part of the challenge of the productivity. If we are all busy

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maybe being able to do that at the office? It is a difficult thing to

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improve your work-life balance when you are in the company, imagine your

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child is sick, you need to do a lot of things and companies need to

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attract and retain talent. So we provide the platforms for cans and

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for the employees in order to find great childcare and food delivery

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and everything in a one stop shop platform where they can find trust

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within the company because you can find a great profile that's been

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recommended by your co-worker. Sally is laughing because this is what I

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want! Ben is thinking, OK, I have my

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massage, they deliver my bacon sandwich to my desk. You're living

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in Havana! I have to talk to the BBC then for you! Thank you for your

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time. It is great to meet you today. Let's turn from booking babysitters

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to booking hotel rooms. The company behind brands

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including Crowne Plaza, Holiday Inn and InterContinental

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says operating profits were up 8% in the first

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half of this year. But the amount of money

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InterContinental Hotels Group makes per room,

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a really important measurement in the hotel business isn't

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growing as fast as it was. The new boss is Keith Parr and he's

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been telling me why. This industry grows two ways -

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by adding rooms and by growing RevPAR and so we saw a softer second

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quarter in RevPAR as did the rest of the industry principally driven

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by the United States. That's a lot it do with the shifting

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of the Easter holidays and also some slowlying in some

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of the oil markets. Additionally we have a big

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renovation programme going on in the US to add

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in new guest rooms and public space design for our Holiday and Express

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brand and that's been a bit of a headwind in the US,

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but we're seeing strength through our markets like Europe

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with RevPAR up over 6%. We saw RevPAR up in China,

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over 4% leading to revenue growth So on a global basis,

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we're seeing real strength It's what underpins our strong

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performance in terms He was at the company for 25 years

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and it was interesting to talk to him. I asked him what would you do

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if you are the boss and he is the boss and he had a very kind of slick

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answer, John Terry just keep the strategy." I was hoping for

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something really radical. You never get that on results day. That's why

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they have to do the Inside Track. Jane is here. This is a story we

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picked out of the Washington Post. China, not President Trump, is

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suddenly helping American steel. President Trump probably takes

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credit for it, but it is other factors at play. This is an

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interesting story. It does help correct the misconceptions that were

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out there since the Trump presidential campaign and

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particularly that very little of Chinese steel goes to the US. Trump

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was talking about China dumping steel in the US. This report says

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only 1% of US steel comes from China, but perhaps a big reason for

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this story is that China is shutting down some of its very dirty plants.

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They are producing less steel, but China is using up a lot of steel.

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China is the biggest consumer of commodities in the world. It absorbs

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iron ore and coal which make steel and it's doing a lot of

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construction. Making a lot of buildings, residential and roads and

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this is one of the ways it's doing it is taking up a lot of debt. But

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it's absorbing a lot of these materials itself. The front of

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today's Telegraph. British children must spend more time online so they

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can save the country says spy chief. He was perhaps making parents feel

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less guilty. It is all about balance. He said that maybe if we

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are a little bit behind in terms of our digital rivals and therefore,

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allowing children to explore the web more helps increase those skills

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which might be good use or good for the country in the longer term, but

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of course a lot of people said, no, no, it is the equivalent of jung

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food for China etcetera, etcetera. Jane, what app can you not live

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without? I like a bit of whatsapp. For me, it's the newspapers.

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Interesting. Thanks, Jane. Nice to see you. Dominic says, "Whatsapp.

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Staying in touch with friends and family." Yeah, I use that one a lot

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too. We will see you tomorrow. Bye-bye.

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Good morning. The unpleasant weather continues across England and Wales.

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This morning we have had heavy rainfall around. Throughout this

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afternoon further heavy showers

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