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This is Business Live from BBC News

with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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A focus on the future.

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A major summit between leaders

from the EU and Africa

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kicks off in Ivory coast,

but will it really

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boost development?

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Live from London, that's our top

story on Wednesday, 29th November.

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Can EU money give Africa the

economic boost it needs? Britain

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makes a significantly higher offer

to settle its Brexit divorce bill so

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says the media, so will this clear

the way for trade talks to finally

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begin? And on financial markets, you

can see this is how Europe is faring

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at the moment. On the minds of

traders, all sorts. A missile launch

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out of North Korea, US tax reform,

the Fed and Bitcoin. We'll talk you

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through the movers and the shakers.

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And we'll be getting the inside

track on testing for diabetes -

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without drawing blood.

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We will meet the man behind the firm

that says it is using just

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lasers to instantly find

out your glucose levels.

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He will be here to explain how it

works.

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And amid new warnings that robots

will force 700 million workers

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into new jobs over the next decade,

we want to know - what job do

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you hate and would happily

let a robot do for you?

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Let us know, use the

hashtag BBC BizLive.

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Hello and welcome to Business Live.

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Don't hold back, but keep it clean

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with our viewers on Business Live!

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Rarely can the west African

nation of Ivory Coast have

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seen anything like it.

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Dozens of EU and African leaders

are gathering to discuss how the two

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continents can work together

to improve their citizens lives.

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Both sides have a lot at stake.

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Although it's fallen substantially,

migration has been one

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of the defining issues.

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1.75 million people made the journey

to Europe over the last four years.

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With many coming through Africa

even if they started elsewhere.

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Many Africans have been

pushed to leave by poverty

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and war the EU and it's member

states are already providing almost

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$24 billion a year in long-term

economic development funding.

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There are also calls

for more bilateral trade

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between the two continents.

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Last year they sold each just over

$311 billion worth of goods -

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with Africa buying more from the EU

than the EU bought from Africa.

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Africa is a young Continent. 60% of

the population is under 25.

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Unemployment though is a massive

problem and it is only getting

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worse. The number of young people is

expected to double in the next

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decade.

TRANSLATION:

Every year we have more

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than 5,000 students who graduate

from university and less than 5%

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find a job. Because of all the

difficulties, we know more and more

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young people who aspire to go abroad

to foreign countries and Europe to

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follow their dream.

More than

two-thirds of young people in Africa

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work in the informal economy. There

is no insurance. No safety net and

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incomes hover around $2 a day.

20-year-old Natalie left school-aged

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seven. When she is not selling

vegetables, she is making clothes.

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TRANSLATION:

I would like to open a

bigger sewing workshop and open

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other workshops too, but I don't

have money to do that. If I had

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someone who could invest in me, that

would be great. We're asking the

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world to help young people here.

The

future of young people is what

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presidents, Prime Ministers and

policy makers are in Abidjan to talk

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about. Jobs, education, and the

crucial question, how to keep them

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from making the deadly journey to

Europe?

I think it is very

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understandable that young people

look to go to places where they have

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opportunities to develop. So, I

think, our challenge and our task is

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really to create such an environment

here because I mean I think it's

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very human that any human would stay

in the place where he or she was

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born in there are opportunities on

the ground.

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Hundreds of thousands of young

Africans make the treacherous trip

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to Europe every day. If their

situations at home don't change,

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this is only going to get worse.

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It appears there MAY have been

a breakthrough in one of the key

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sticking points over Brexit.

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Yes, the UK has made

a bigger offer to the EU for

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the so-called divorce payment.

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That could pave the way

for trade talks to begin.

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Leila Nathoo is our

correspondent at Westminster.

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It is interesting this, a lot of

people have been hanging on to every

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word about whether there is or there

is not a deal, but the big question

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is if there is a deal, how much is

it going to cost the UK?

This has

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been one of the most politically

sensitive parts of the whole Brexit

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procession the cost of leaving, how

much money will we claim from the EU

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when Britain leaves and how much

money will we have to pay out in

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order do so? Theresa May had made an

offer in her Florence speech, the

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major Florence speech that Britain

was going to continue paying into

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the EU budget until 2020, so no

country would be left worse off or

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no other EU country would have to

pay more. Brussels made it clear

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that wasn't enough and they were

expecting a bigger offer, but last

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week, Theresa May had managed to get

her Cabinet Ministers on side to

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persuade them, even Brexiteers that

actually upping the financial offer

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was what was needed to persuade

Brussels to get those talks on to

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trade. Now, this is all in the

lead-up to a summit in a couple of

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weeks' time when EU leaders will

decide whether sufficient progress

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has been made on the so-called

divorce matters of which the Brexit

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bill was one of the main sticking

points. So, we understand now that

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the Government has made this revised

offer, although the upper limit that

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we understand, 55 billion euros is

something that the British

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Government is saying it is not

recognising and certainly no

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specific figure has been agraoud

yet, neither side are confirming

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anything of the sort, but it is

understood that that has been

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broadly welcomed in Brussels and so,

it seems one of the major obstacles

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so far seems to be receding.

Thank

you very much indeed.

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So Downing Street being tight lipped

about the numbers, but just talking

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in Berlin, the European chief Brexit

negotiator, that's Michel Barnier,

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he actually said to his audience in

Berlin, the security conference

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there, that he hopes to report in

the coming days, an agreement with

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Britain on the financial terms of

withdrawal. So the impression we are

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getting is that a deal has been

done, but as we say, we don't know

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the actual figures.

Yes, watch this space.

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Let's take a look at some of

the other stories making the news.

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The London Stock Exchange says chief

executive Xavier Rolet will step

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down with immediate effect

and chairman Donald Brydon will not

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stand for re-election in 2019.

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It follows speculation that

Mr Rolet, who has been in the top

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job for nine years,

is being forced out as boss

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of the London exchange.

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Apple says it's working to fix

a serious bug in the latest version

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of its Mac operating

system, High Sierra.

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The error makes it possible

to access the machine

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without a password and

change its settings.

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It also allows access to important

administrator's rights.

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We've had a rare glimpse

into the finances of

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the ride-hailing app Uber.

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Documents released as part

of its efforts to raise investment

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from Japan's Softbank show losses

growing to almost $1.5 billion

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in the three months to September.

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Bookings for rides

brought in $9.7 billion.

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It comes as the company suffered

another setback in the US.

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A judge has delayed a trade secrets

trial amid concerns that Uber

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withheld evidence from the court.

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The United States has launched

another trade investigation

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into imports from China.

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This time it's if aluminium alloy

sheets which are in the cross hairs

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of the Trump administration.

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Trump was just here in Asia,

two-and-a-half weeks ago. He had a

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wonderful visit in China, but it

seems like Sally the lustre of the

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US President's trip to the mainland

has really quickly faded away.

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Unimpressed by Beijing's progress in

North Korea and market opening

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initiatives, the US is now rolling

out as he mentioned an investigation

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into aluminium sheet imports worth

hundreds of millions of dollars each

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year and this enquiry will examine

if aluminium sheets is being sold

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below cost or with the help of the

Government subsidies. The United

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States imported $600 million of

aluminium alloy sheets last year and

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Washington is calling this probe

intended to advance President

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Trump's tough on trade agenda. The

Commerce Department said it has

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evidence that the imports pose a

threat to the US industry and this

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case will be investigated by the

international trade commission with

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final decisions expected by next

year and if anti-dumping duties are

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indeed imposed, it could be as high

as 60%.

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We will keep a close eye on that. I

imagine Beijing's reaction won't be

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nice.

Asia was reacting to that missile

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test coming from North Korea. The

first one for some 75 days. So, that

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has kept traders busy in terms of

the geopolitics and what could

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happen next, but they are reacting

to the night before on Wall Street.

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A 1% climb on Wall Street. Also the

Bitcoin going over $10,000. It has

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been a busy period of time.

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And Samira Hussain has

the details about what's ahead

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on Wall Street Today.

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Janet Yelland will TV on Capitol

Hill. This comes two weeks before

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the Central Bank's next policy

meeting. Where it is widely expected

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to raise interest rates again for

the third time this year. Now, it

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will also likely be her last

appearance before lawmakers with a

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replacement Fed governor Jerome

Powell set to take over as leader as

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early as next year. Also happening

on Capitol Hill a confirmation

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hearing for US President Trump's

pick for the next to be the next

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health and human services secretary.

Served as an executive a

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pharmaceutical company at the time

when the company was accused of

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colluding with other pharmaceutical

companies to set prices on insulin

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and other diabetes drugs. So

Democrats will likely grill him on

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his plans to tackle drug pricing and

whether he planses to uphold

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Obamacare.

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Tom Stevenson is Investment Director

at Fidelity International.

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So we were touching on Brexit

earlier and we heard from our

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correspondent that perhaps a deal

has been agreed. We don't know any

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details yet. We've heard from Michel

Barnier saying they're still working

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on Brexit terms, but already we have

seen a reaction on the currency

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markets?

Yeah, that's right. Michel

Barnier's comments were interesting.

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He does suggest within days and that

probably means on Monday when there

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is a meeting between Prime Minister

Theresa May and Jean-Claude Juncker,

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we could get an announcement. The

pound has been positive. We are

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above a dollar 34 and that's

interesting because we have seen a

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reaction in the stock market as

well. Despite record highs on the US

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markets, the FTSE 100 is down this

morning and that's a reflection of

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the pound rising because that's bad

news for UK exporters and overseas.

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We have seen the opposite when the

pound has been falling.

A weak pound

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has been good for the FTSE 100.

Give

us your interpretation of why the

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pound has strengthened today? Is

that because the expectation is yes,

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trade talks, negotiations can maybe

start in the near future or is it

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some assessment of the divorce

bill's size, what do you think?

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Well, I think it is a positive

assessment of the fact that we are

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edging closer towards actually

starting the trade talks. I think

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what we shouldn't forget though is

that the divorce bill, settling that

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bill, even if it is at £55 billion

is just one part of the equation.

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We've also got the issue of EU

citizens rights in the UK and more

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importantly, what's going on with

the Irish border. That still seems

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like a really intrabletable issue if

we come out of the customs union, if

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we come out of the single market, it

is hard to see how we can avoid a

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hard border in Ireland and that of

course, could be a blockage to the

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trade talks.

Watch and wait and see.

, Monday, we will keep a close eye.

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Tom, thank you. I know you will talk

through the newspaper stories with

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us later. Which includes robots.

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Still to come...

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The end of the finger prick?

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We meet the man behind

the firm that says

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it can test your glucose without

you having to give any blood.

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And it's all done with lasers.

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We'll speak to him shortly.

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You're with Business

Live from BBC News.

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Let's focus on the big story in the

UK.

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Transport Secretary Chris Grayling

says new rail projects could unlock

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economic growth across the country.

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He wants to expand Britain's rail

network, looking at restoring

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services that were lost to cuts

in the '60s and '70s and to address

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overcrowding faced by

many train operators.

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Anyone who travels by train in this

country, I'm sure your ears are

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tuning in. Let's get more from our

economic correspondent Andrew

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Walker. Ben is shaking his head.

Tommy macro, what is the government

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proposing?

This is a wide ranging

rethink of rail strategy. There's

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quite a lot in it. Proposals to

change some of the franchises, break

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up some of the larger ones. More

integrated working between trade and

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rail company is. There is no

question, the eye-catching stop is

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the suggestion we could see some

reversal of some of the lines that

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were cut back in the 1960s and

1970s, those cuts in the 1960s

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notoriously known as the Beeching

cuts, Richard Beeching was the

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chairman of the tissue Rail at the

time. The document talks about one

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proposal that is already underway,

that is to re-establish the full

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length link between Oxford and

Cambridge. Part of that is already

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running again but there is the

proposal to get the full length of

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that line running again. Beyond

that, they are inviting ideas for

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reopening other local lines and in

particular the government wants

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proposals that will encourage new

housing developments, that will

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encourage new economic development

or perhaps to divert congestion away

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from other parts of the transport

network. We don't have a list of

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exactly what is going to be, but

clearly the potential for quite

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significant restoration of old lines

here.

Andrew, thanks very much. We

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will leave it there. There's a lot

more detail on that story on our

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website. Our transport correspondent

Richard Wescott has been looking at

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all these latest developments and

what they mean and a gauge of some

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of the reaction, as well.

For more reaction to the story we

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brought you earlier, news that the

London stock exchange's chief

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executive is to quit, apparently he

could walk away with a payoff of

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nearly £13 million. He's been in the

job about eight years, so he gets a

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salary at the moment of about

£800,000, but to mark his departure

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he could get £12.8 million. The

details either on BBC Business Live

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page.

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You're watching Business Live -

our top story - the meeting

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of dozens of EU and African leaders,

gathering to discuss how the two

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continents can work together

to improve education,

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skills and jobs and address worries

over mass migration to Europe.

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There are more than 400 leave people

with diabetes over the world who

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need to monitor their blood sugar

levels. The global market for

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devices that help people do that is

huge. It's worth about $9 billion

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per year. That is expected to get

even bigger than that, to grow to

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something like $11 billion by 2020.

But to monitor blood sugar,

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diabetics need to prick their

finger, draw blood often several

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times a day. This, for some, can

result in infections.

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So so what if there was another way.

Several firms are working on systems

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that could measure blood glucose

without having to bunch of the skin.

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One of them is DiaMonTech,

and Thorsten Lubinksi

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is its Chief Executive.

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He's with us.

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Good morning. Just explain how this

works.

DiaMonTech stands were

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diabetic monitoring technology. You

put your finger on the sensor, wait

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for five to 15 seconds and it shows

the blood sugar level on a display.

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We're doing it with a new kind of

laser called a quantum cascade

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laser. The light penetrates the

skin, heats the glucose molecules a

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little bit and we measure the change

in temperature. The change in

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temperature is tiny so you won't

notice it, but we can measure it and

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the more glucose you have, the more

the glucose is and we can show that

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in the display.

This is a device

that is still in development, you

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can't show it today. It is finished

but not quite there yet in terms of

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it being here in the studio with us.

Exactly.

Just explain how you got

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this show on the road. We met a

professor who's been working on this

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for 30 years.

Yes. I'm a computer

scientist by training and I was

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thinking about creating some sort of

electronic diary for diabetics using

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sensory input from your phone, your

watch, whatever. I was talking to a

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lot of different people in the

diabetics field. I met the Professor

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and he said, OK, this makes sense,

it's a good idea, but I have this

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huge device in my lab that can

measure your glucose noninvasively.

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But I'm a professor, I don't know

how to bring something like that to

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market. I said, I can help you with

that. We spoke back and forth for a

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couple of months and founded the

company.

You got Angel investors

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involved. You have the patents

nailed down and you're thinking,

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next year, this device will be

available and now it's the size of a

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shoe box.

Correct. We are moving in

different steps. First step is a

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shoe box sized device where we show

that the technology works and we can

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get it cleared as a medical product

and from there we are starting to

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make it smaller. We are planning in

the next step... We call it

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internally the muffin because it is

Morphine sized, you can put it in

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your pocket. -- it is sized.

A lot

of people will be used to the finger

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prick test which is not particularly

comfortable, it can be messy, it can

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lead to infection, it takes time. A

fundamental change.

Exactly. What I

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think will happen is people will get

to measuring more often and this is

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very essential to get healthy

glucose levels over the whole day.

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So measuring ten times a day is

better than measuring twice. 20

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times is better than that.

How much

will it cost the user? Is it

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affordable for people who have to go

through this on a daily basis?

As

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every technology, in the beginning

it will be more expensive than later

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on. We are thinking it will cost

around £100 per month to measure

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noninvasively. This is on the same

level like minimal invasive devices

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cost right now.

We have to leave it

there. Thank you for coming in. We

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shall keep a close eye. Keith us

posted. Keep your tweets coming in

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about what job you would like to

replace with robots. A few of you

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have said your manager, but that's

not what we're asking!

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Australia's flag carrier Qantas has

had its share of ups and downs.

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After a drastic cost-cutting drive,

the airline finally

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returned to profitability.

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But can it maintain the upswing?

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Christian Fraser has been talking

to the boss, Alan Joyce -

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who thinks expanding capacity

is the key.

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We've actually challenged both

Airbus and Boeing to produce a new

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aircraft that can do Sydney

and Melbourne to London,

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which is a 21-hour aircraft

in the air and we

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believe that that is the last

frontier of aviation.

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There is a bit of a space race

going on between the

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two of them to get us

the aircraft by 2022.

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Throw your imagination out.

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Where does air travel

go in the future?

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Is it suborbital?

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Is it further and faster?

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Is it a smaller carbon footprint?

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What is it?

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I think first of all it's distance

first and getting these very long

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routes in place.

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Speed, unfortunately,

and supersonic, I

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don't see us ever

getting back to that.

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So, economical, and there's

a trade-off between the fuel you

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need to go supersonic means you're

trading of distance.

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And there are environmental

issues around

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supersonic that we never really

solved since Concorde.

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Tom Stevenson is back with us. We've

been asking people this morning

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about what jobs they'd like to maybe

give to a robot because there's a

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report in the papers that robots

will force 700 million workers into

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a new job by 2030. Abby says, a

robot can have my barmaid job over

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Christmas if it likes. Good luck

with the Christmas rush. Sarah says,

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robots, scary thought, it's bad

enough you have to listen to

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automated messages. In the City,

robots are doing a lot of things

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that we don't know about, we're not

aware of.

I think the interesting

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thing about the studies about

automation is that it started off

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with very low level jobs and they

are gradually moving up the skill

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level so that people who thought

their jobs were probably pretty

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secure from automation are being

automated out of the workforce. This

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is how you end up with a figure like

700 million, which is a massive

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slice of the global workforce.

This

is an interesting headline,

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suggesting those 700 million workers

will have to find new careers. It's

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not saying they're made redundant,

just that they have to go elsewhere.

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This process has been going on since

the Industrial Revolution. Think of

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how money people were involved with

horses, blacksmiths, whatever. How

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many horses do you see on the

streets of any city these days? You

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don't. Over time and the invention

of the PC, that created all sorts of

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new jobs that simply didn't exist

before.

Jerome says, I'd replace my

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manager with a robot. I can pack in,

get more money and work a two-day

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week.

Someone else once the Bosman to be

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automated because the post is

consistently misdelivered.

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Mine is never, I like to say. I love

a human at the door with the post.

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Some of us have had jobs would love

to replace with robots. I stood by a

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conveyor belt as a student and moved

pies from A to B.

I'm old enough

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that my first job was working a

lift. I had to do the handle. You'd

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have thought that would have been

automated years ago!

Tom, thank you.

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Banks for your comments today and we

will see you same time tomorrow.

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