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This is Business Live

from BBC News with

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Victoria Fritz and Ben Thompson.

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President Trump gets the Christmas

present he's been waiting

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for as the US Congress finally

passes sweeping tax reforms.

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Live from London, that's our top

story on Wednesday, 20th December.

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The US Senate approved

the changes after midnight,

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but will the reforms to the world's

biggest economy help

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the rest of us too?

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Also in the programme -

Uber prepares for a hugely important

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court ruling that could change

the way it works across Europe.

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We have the latest from the markets.

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Asian shares bobbed lower

in a choppy session on Wednesday.

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European markets have opened higher.

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And bringing electricity

to 20 million people.

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We'll get the inside track on one

firm's plans to use solar energy

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to power millions of homes in Africa

- without installing expensive

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networks and cables.

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And as the work week eases

into Christmas, we want to know -

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what is suitable office attire?

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Is it your Christmas jumper?

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Or your glittery shoes?

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Let us know - with pictures -

what you're wearing

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to work this week.

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Just use the hashtag BBC Biz Live.

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Hello and welcome to Business Live.

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Let's start in the United States

because the world's biggest economy

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is on the brink of its most sweeping

tax changes in a generation.

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The Senate passed the reforms just

before 1am Washington time.

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Congress just needs to hold one more

procedural vote before

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President Trump can claim his first,

big, legislative win.

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This entire package is likely

to cost $1.4 trillion

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over the next ten years.

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Most of that will be added

to the national debt

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which is already over $20 trillion.

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The biggest tax cut in the final

version drops the corporation

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tax from 35% to 21%.

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Something President Trump says

will help economic growth.

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On an individual level,

the top tax rate will fall,

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for the highest and lowest earners,

with a top rate of 37%.

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David Wills in Washington

and has the details.

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The ayes are 51.

They voted along

party lines in the Senate to approve

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the most sweeping overhaul of the

American tax system in 30 years.

The

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tax cuts and jobs Act is passed.

A

Bill barely six weeks old and still

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clearly a little rough around the

edges.

The motion to reconsider is

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laid upon the table.

The House

Speaker's jubilation proving

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premature after it emerged certain

provisions didn't confirm with the

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rules of the Senate. The House will

vote on a tweaked version of the

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Bill later today, but that doesn't

change the essence of the

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legislation or the opposition to it.

The worst Bill in history because

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the number of people that it

affects, the amount of money it

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sucks up to the higher income and

the impact on our future deficits.

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Today we are giving the people of

this country their money back. This

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is their money after all.

You're lying.

Opponents point out

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the Bill will add $1 trillion to the

national debt.

They're putting it on

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the credit card.

But Republicans

argue it will strengthen the economy

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and boost jobs.

Merry Christmas.

This is a good day for America. This

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is a good day for workers. This is a

great day for growth and we're very

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excited about this moment.

The Bill includes permanent tax cuts

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for American corporations which the

Trump administration says will make

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those corporations more competitive

and temporary tax cuts for around

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80% of the American population. The

amount varying according to their

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level of income. Before it emerged

that there was to be another vote in

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the House, President Trump tweeted

his congratulations to the great

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House Republicans who enforced the

Bill, but the president's claim that

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the tax plan will cost him and his

family a fortune is being questioned

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in the light of his continued

reluctance to release his tax

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returns.

In some ways particularly

on the personal side, the president

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will likely take a big hit, but on

the business side he could benefit.

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President Trump could sign the tax

Bill into law as early as today.

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It's the first major legislative

victory since he took office in

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January.

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Joining us is Trevor Greetham,

Head of multi asset,

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Royal London Asset Management.

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Nice to see you, Trevor. Look, it's

interesting. We have said it is a

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Christmas present for Donald Trump.

He has been pushing this for quite a

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while. Seen a big achievement of his

administration. Is it quite a done

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deal?

I think it is. There is a

procedural difficulty which means it

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has to go back to the House for a

vote, but everyone is lining up

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their press conferences and it is

pretty clear that it's going to go

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through.

The market seems to like

this. We have seen a rally, but do

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the economics behind this work? Is

it a tax cut for all or just the

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high earners, the millionaires and

the billionaires as the Democrats

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would say?

In terms of the tax cut,

most of it, the lasting tax cut will

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be for the top 1% or 0.1% of earners

who don't necessarily spend this

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extra money, they just keep it. The

corporate tax cut is substantial as

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you said, 21% makes the US quite

competitive. There are incentives to

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do more capital spending and there

are tax breaks and to take money

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back to America that's parked

overseas. So it should boost the US

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economy, but people have been

talking about this tax cut for a

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long time. We've had strong stock

markets in December as the news

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came, that it was actually going to

happen and sometimes it is better to

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travel than arrive. I think next

year the markets will be thinking

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about other things like China, is

China slowing down in

The markets

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like this because they have been

factoring this in already, the

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question is whether it filters back

through? We have seen record highs

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for the Nasdaq and the Dow Jones?

The US economy is growing rapidly,

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about 4% growth. We are seeing the

same in Europe so we've got strong

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growth with low interest rates and

stock markets like that. The

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question next year will be is there

a new theme? Is it China slowing? Is

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it interest rates going up? We are

late in the business psyche toll do

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a big stimulus like this. If you

boost growth and unemployment is

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low, people will be watching wage

inflation. It maybe what you gain

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from a tax cut you lose from

interest rate rises.

I suspect we

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may talk about this again, it will

run and run! Trevor, thank you.

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Let's take a look at some of

the other stories making the news.

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Supermarket giant Tesco can take

over food wholesaler Booker

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in a deal worth £3.7 billion,

that's nearly $5 billion.

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The deal was under scrutiny

from Britain's competition regulator

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over fears it could stifle

competition in the grocery market.

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Critics had expected the regulator

to insist that Tesco

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sell off some stores,

but the deal has been

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given the green light.

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YouTube has signed a second global

deal with a major music label, as it

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expands its subscription businesses.

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After signing a deal

with Warner Music in May,

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the online platform has now added

Universal Music Group

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which represents artists including

Taylor Swift and Jay Z

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in a deal it says would

provide artists with more

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flexibility and pay.

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The auto-maker, Subaru, is

investigating whether its inspectors

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may have faked data on vehicle

mileage readings during inspections

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conducted on cars sold in Japan.

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The Japanese firm says uncertified

staff were carrying out tests

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on new cars sold on the domestic

market for decades.

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The news prompted shares

in the firm to fall 8.5%,

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making them the most heavily traded

stock on the Tokyo Stock Exchange.

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Is Uber a taxi firm or not?

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The European Court of

Justice is due to give

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us its opinion any minute now.

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It has decided it is a transport

company. There was a question about

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whether it is a transport company or

indeed whether it would be a ride

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hailing app.

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Anna McCaffrey is an Employment

lawyer at Taylor Wessing.

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The right decision, do you think?

It

is consistent with the line of case

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law and litigation in various

countries that Uber have been up

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against. And I suppose it's what we

expected given that the original

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advisor to the court, the advocate

general had come to the same

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decision as well.

Talk us through

the two different options the court

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had here. It was about how you

define what Uber does and the legal

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implications?

At its most basic

level the court was asked to decide

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if Uber was a digital company and if

it was a digital company there are

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certain EU rules about not imposing

undue restrictions on online

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companies. If it is a transport

company, EU law has less influence

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and it is up to each country to

decide how they regulate transport

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services. So that nens there is more

scope for each country to decide how

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to regulate and so therefore, things

like taxi licensing rules, and

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regulation of taxis in each country

mean that they come into play which

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means Uber that is a lot more rules

it has to comply with than if it was

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a digital company.

This has gone to

expose the vast casmed in regulation

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when it comes to what is happening

in the real economy and businesses

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that are developing now and the

companies that exist on paper that

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they have rules for. They always

seem, at least a few steps behind?

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Yes. I think it is a challenge for a

MP like Uber that operates in so

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many countries if they have to

comply with different sets of

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regulation, which are not the same

country to country, it has a

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potential impact on their business

model. And you know, we do come back

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up against this question of is, are

the legal rules fit for developing a

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new type of company in the gig

economy?

What difference would this

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make for people that are using the

service? Will it really change

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anything?

It shouldn't do. It is

fair to point out that in many cases

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Uber already have to comply with

transport regulation for example in

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the UK and France and Germany. Uber

has said that they don't think there

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are ruling a transport company will

make a difference to where they are

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operating.

The legal repercussions

run and run. Anna McCaffrey there.

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Uber is indeed a transport company

and not a digital so it has to abide

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by the rules relating to transport.

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When it comes to Brexit the status

of London as a global financial

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centre is one of the most pressing

concerns for the UK Government.

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And the BBC has learnt that EU banks

are to be allowed to continue

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operating in the United Kingdom

after Brexit without

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additional regulation.

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Our Business Editor Simon

Jack has the story.

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Simon explain this for us.

If you

look at some of the big EU banks

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which have very significant

presences in the UK and particularly

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in London, take Deutsche Bank. It

does billions in business. In a post

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Brexit scenario the Bank of England

has been trying to make up its mind

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do we allow that to continue to be a

branch which it is at the moment, it

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is offshoot of its Frankfurt

headquarters, but all the decisions

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happen in Frankfurt, or do we say we

would feel more comfortable if you

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would become a subsidiary and become

a UK entity. That's what they could

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have done. I understand that the

Bank of England today will say we're

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comfortable with the current

situation. Those branches which can

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remain branches without having to

sub sidrise. So it will be seen as

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an act of goodwill to those European

operators there. Also in London's

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interest, you don't want to boot out

a bank that has 9,000 people all

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paying a lot of tax. Self interest,

but hopefully some positive mood

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music towards what is sometimes a

fractious conversation about the

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future of banking in the eurozone.

Thank you very much. That was Simon

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Jack our business editor. It will be

fascinating to see what happens to

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the bank stocks in Europe as a

result.

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Asian stocks have had a mixed

session - waiting on US

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legislators to rubber stamp

the tax-cut package.

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The idea is that the money released

into the real economy would

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help to accelerate economic growth.

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Whether that'll happen

or not remains to be seen.

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But regardless, we've seen

global equity gauges

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move to historic highs.

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Over in Europe, markets have opened.

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The food retailers are in focus

after Britain's competition

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regulator gave final clearance

to Tesco to buy the wholesaler

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Booker for just shy of $5 billion.

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It's a big day in Washington today.

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Yogita Limaye has the latest on how

this will move Wall Street.

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Investors in the US will still be

watching the painfully drawn out

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process of the Republicans'

attempts to pass tax reform.

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But they will also have a few

items of economic and

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corporate news to watch out for.

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The National Association

of Realtors will

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be releasing the latest figures

for existing home sales in the US.

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It is assumed that

over all the American

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housing market is

still ticking over.

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Forecasts are for over 5.5 million

home sales having taken

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place in the month of November,

nearly 1% more than in the

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previous month.

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On the corporate front, food giant

General Mills releases second

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quarter earnings.

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They're expected to

show increased sales.

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And Blackberry, long

ago the giant of

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the smart phone market, now much

reduced, and expected to post

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another quarter of falling revenue.

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Still to come:

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How do you get power

to remote parts of Africa?

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Solar energy is an obvious choice

and now one firm says it can do it

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more cheaply and more easily

than ever before.

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We'll meet the boss later.

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You're with Business

Live from BBC News.

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Let's talk about house prices.

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We've had the latest forecast and it

doesn't make for great

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reading if you're thinking

about selling your home next year.

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In short, things just aren't moving.

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Let's speak to Simon Rubinsohn,

chief economist at the Royal

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Institution of Chartered Surveyors -

the group that carried

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out the study.

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Morning, if you're trying to sell or

buy, is not looking great.

The issue

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about transaction volume, the amount

of activity is a big issue and one

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that has been building. There is not

really the momentum in the market at

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the moment that you know one would

perhaps expect given the state of

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the economy and a lot of people are

in jobs and employment is rising. It

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is not creating a dynamic market.

But I would add that while that is

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true at a headline level the

regional picture is quite divergent

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and London and the south-east in

particular seems to be where the

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lack of momentum is greatest. If

you're looking to buy or sell in the

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Midlands, in north, Scotland,

Northern Ireland, Wales, the picture

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is different and many of your

viewers will be living in those

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parts.

Does the level of transaction

volume tally with what is happening

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with prices and we may see a fall in

the south-east and rising in other

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places? Is that the right sort of

take from this?

I think it is. Both

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prices and activity will be more

upbeat and more positive the further

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you are away from London.

Thank you

we have a few great stories on the

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web page.

This is related to the

access to superfast broadband and

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the Government rejected an offer

from BT to connect homes. The

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regulator wants it enshrined in

legal rights and says everyone

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should have access to it by 2020, a

legal right to at least 10 megabits.

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The details are on the web-site.

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Our top story, President Trump is

expected to sign sweeping tax

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reforms into law after they were

approved by a vote in the Senate at

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1am Washington time.

Another story,

Uber has suffered a set back in the

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European court of justice, it has

been decided they will be treated as

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a transport company, rather than a

digital service. Uber tried to

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suggest all it does is connect

passengers with drivers. But they

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are now a transport company.

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Access to affordable energy is seen

as a crucial step in helping

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to boost economic prosperity

in developing countries.

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While the situation has

improved dramatically,

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the International Energy Agency says

about 1.1 billion people worldwide

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are still without electricity.

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Well one UK company called Bboxx

is connecting hundreds of thousands

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of households using solar

panels and batteries -

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which can power lighting,

charge smartphones and even run TVs.

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It's aiming to deliver solar energy

to 20 million people

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in just the next two years.

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Mansoor Hamayun is the co-founder

and CEO of BBOXX.

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Nice to see you. Explain how it

works. I said that this is about not

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really having that big

infrastructure and not relying on

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big networks of cables, how does it

work?

Sure, you described over a

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billion people have no access to

electricity and the sad fact is

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they're spending between five and 20

dollars a month on kerosene and

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other things. We can put solar

panels in a range of appliances and

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get a price point lower than the

existing expenditure. The way our

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customers pay is using mobile money.

One of the big revolutions that is

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happening is the spread of mobile

phones, that allows us to create the

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next generation utility that is

connected through data rather than

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wires. That allows massive amounts

of affordability and that is what we

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are seeing that can add 100 to 500

new homes a day. We have reached

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150,000 households so far. This is

the leapfrog we think will happen in

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23 same that happened with the

traditional centralised

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infrastructure.

The leapfrogging

technology is about scale, how do

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you manage that, that will be the

big challenge for your business?

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Yes, cloud-based solutions is an

important part of this. The fact we

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can generate data per household and

predict problems before it happens.

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So that means we can run a proactive

business model. The other parties

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human capital, to electricity the

developing word, we need to create a

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massive energy service company and

that means training people. Today we

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employ over 500 people directly with

over a thousand agents. This is not

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just about technology, but investing

in the human capital to service the

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utility of the future.

You touched

it on being cheaper than gas and

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kerosene, how do you make money out

of this?

We finance customers and we

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make money on the financing and we

make money by producing the

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equipment. We are producing the

battery boxes and appliances and so

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we have an integrated business model

so make money on the hard ware and

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the finance. The exciting point is

that we have a business model that

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allows us to reach the most rural

poor and yet be able to create an

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economically viable money that has

attracted venture capital money from

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big firms. That is why I I believe

there is a possibility to see the

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world getting electrified within my

own lifetime.

Good to talk to you.

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Thank you. A South Korean start up

has revealed a new robot.

It is from

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The Institute of Science lab. Take a

look.

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The robot can be used for carrying

person from a point to B without his

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or her physical effort. That means

he can help for the disabled person

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and also his arm is very powerful

and can be used for carrying heavier

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chairs. We are thinking of these

personal applications in the future.

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Oh, just having my coffee! We were

asking about wearing Christmas

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jumpers. Can I show you Victoria's

shoes? She is wearing these to get

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her in the festive mood. They're a

bit glittery. That is my Christmas

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tie, with Rudolf. You can't see it

from afar. Thank you for all your

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messages. James who works here

sending us a picture of his

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Christmas ear rings. Neil sent us

his Christmas tie.

There we go.

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Thank you. Glittery snow flakes as

well. Trevor, are you wearing

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anything Christmassy?

I haven't

started.

You missed the memo?

I'm

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quite behind as well.

I don't know

when it officially starts. Now the

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papers. Where do you want to start?

Bit coin billionaires.

These are the

0:24:380:24:50

twins. And they have become bit coin

millionaires.

They started at $10.

0:24:500:25:05

Now it is 20,000. It is a 200,000%

increase. We talk about stock

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markets up 20%.

It is a paper

profit. Unless you sell.

The

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web-site seems to work better when

you're trying to buy. It doesn't

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stack up to me. Because as a medium

of exchange you want something to be

0:25:240:25:30

stable. And if it goes up 2,000

times it could be going down 2,000

0:25:300:25:36

times. People are buying, because

other people are buying. It feels

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like it will go badly long. So we

will watch their fortunes rising and

0:25:420:25:47

falling.

Thank you. Good to see you.

We will see you very soon. Thanks

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for your company today. Goodbye.

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