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Tonight at 10: We are at Westminster, where Rupert Murdoch

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denies personal responsibility for the phone hacking crisis. He is

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called to account by MPs for the turmoil that has affected the press,

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politics and the police. He strikes a penitent note. I would just like

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to say one sentence. This is the most humble day of my life.

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scandal that engulfed the News of the World has raised many

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unanswered questions, both father and son refused to take the blame.

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The News of the World was less than 1% of Mike company. I employ 50,000

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people around the world. They are proud, great and ethical. They are

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distinguished. At one stage, the session is disrupted by a protester

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who targets Rupert Murdoch. No one is hurt and the man is arrested.

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The day also features evidence by Rebekah Brooks, until recently a

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key Murdoch executive. She claims she was not given the full facts.

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Clearly, what happened at the News of the World, certainly when the

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allegations of the intercepts of victims of crime, it is pretty

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horrific and abhorrent. Also tonight: Famine returns to East

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Africa for the first time this century, with at least 500,000

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children at risk of dying. Police fears that the person responsible

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for contaminating saline drips at a hospital in Stockport could still

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be there. And the Government gives the go-ahead for a widespread Cole

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of badgers to stop the spread of TB in cattle. In Sportsday at 10:30pm:

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Could Cesc Fabregas finally be going to Spain? The Barcelona boss

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says they will fight to the end to Good evening from Westminster,

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where the most anticipated parliamentary event of recent years

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has produced more than its share of drama. Rupert Murdoch, who runs

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Britain's biggest media company, appeared before MPs, flanked by his

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son, to answer questions about the phone hacking scandal. He said

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today was the most humble day of his life. But he refused to take

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personal responsibility for the crisis that engulfed the News of

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the World. At one stage, the session was interrupted by a

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protester. Rebekah Brooks also appeared and insisted that the

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company had acted quickly and decisively, as she put it, when

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Enter Britain's most powerful, most feared, most cow would be gear

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mogul. The policeman, in case you wondered, are there to protect

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Rupert and James Murdoch, not take them in for questioning. That fell

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to a committee of MPs. His wife, Wendi, was behind him, offering

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physical and emotional support. His son, and once heir apparent, sat

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anxiously and protectively at his side throughout. I would like to

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say as well, just how sorry I am and how sorry we are. Barred from

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reading a scripted apology, Rupert Murdoch was determined to deliver

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one key line. I would just like to say one sentence. This is the most

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humble day of my life. They were sorry. They were humble. But whose

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fault was the criminality in their company? Do you accept that,

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ultimately, you are responsible for this whole fiasco? A no. You are

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not responsible? Who is responsible? The people that I

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trusted to run it. And perhaps the people they trusted. Who that was,

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he would not save. -- sake. It's not an excuse, maybe it is

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explanation of my laxity. The News of the World is less than 1% of my

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company. At this point, his wife prodded him to tell him to stop

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banging the table. From then on, when he was asked what he knew,

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when, this sounds heard more often was silence. Way you informed of

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the findings by your son or Rebekah Brooks? That question, about when

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he saw e-mails about hacking, took 10 long sessions -- seconds to

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answer. I forget, but I expect it was from my son. In recent years,

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News International, which owns the News of the World, was run day-to-

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day by James Murdoch. Today he blamed the police, the Press

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Complaints Commission and a failed internal inquiry for his company's

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failure to reveal what had gone wrong. If I knew then what we know

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now, with the benefit of hindsight we can look at all of these things.

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But if I knew then what we know now, we would have taken more action

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around bat and moved faster to get to the bottom of the allegations.

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How different today was from the days Rupert Murdoch was feted by

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Prime Ministers, whether Conservative or Labour. His

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children, he said, used to play with Gordon Brown's. What about the

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current occupant of Number 10? He was never photographed with Rupert

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Murdoch, even when he was invited to meet with him before the

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election. You were invited to the back door of Number 10? Why?

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avoid photographers, I imagine. I just did what I was told. He was

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looking relaxed. But then... Mayhem as parliamentary drama turned into

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a circus. We can speak to Nick Robinson, who it was in the room.

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What can you tell us? I was sitting a few feet away from Mr Murdoch. It

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was only half a second before he was hit in the face with that plate

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of what I assume is shaving foam. The foam on a plate was delivered

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by a member of the public, he was rewarded with a right hook from

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wife Wendi. The police arrived some time later. It's the sort of story

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Rebekah Brooks would have loved when she edited the Sun or the News

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of the World. The now ex-chief- executive of News International

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followed the Murdochs into the committee room and matched their

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contrition. It seems incredible that you, as the editor, were so

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unaware of such fundamental issues to do with his investigation.

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some ways, I think the opposite. I don't know anyone in their right

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mind food would authorise, no, sanction, approve of any one

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listening to the voice mails of Milly Dowler. I don't know anyone

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that would think it is the right and possible thing to do.

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someone did it, someone approved it and someone covered it up. When

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Rupert Murdoch swept out of Westminster we were no closer to

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knowing food. We did know that this was a day that he did not enjoy. --

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That wasn't the only highly charged committee hearing at Westminster

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today. Two of Scotland Yard's most senior officers will also question.

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Commissioner Paul Stephenson and former assistant commissioner John

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Yates, who have both resigned, denied any wrongdoing. They were

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asked about the contract with News International staff and about the

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failings of the police Revealed today, the extraordinary

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links between two British institutions. Scotland Yard and

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News International. MPs described it as a revolving door between the

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two organisations, each acting like a job placement scheme for the

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other. It was a day for a long and forensic police interrogation. But

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this time it was senior officers that were required to answer the

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questions. Order, could I called the Committee to order.

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commissioner Paul Stephenson was asked about 18 lunches and dinners

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he had had with senior News International Staff, at least seven

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of them with a News of the World journalists now accused of phone

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hacking. News International, I am told, represents 42% of press

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readership. But I am going to maintain a relationship with the

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media, it wasn't my decision. It was not my decision to allow News

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International to be so dominant in the market. But that I am going to

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talk to the media and they have 42% of the readership, who am I going

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to talk to? It also emerged that of the 45 media and public relations

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staff at the Met, 10 are former News International employees. But

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it was another Murdoch man given a job at Scotland Yard that the

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committee were particularly interested in. Neil Wallis. Now

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arrested for alleged phone hacking, the former deputy editor of the

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News of the World was hired just weeks after detectives had decided

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not to pursue fresh claims of widespread hacking at the paper.

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Public affairs head Dick Fedorcio told MPs that he had never asked

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Neil Wallis about phone hacking because a colleague, John Yates,

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had vouched for him. You knew that John Yates was a personal friend of

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a Neil Wallis? Yes. But you still relied on him to give the all-clear

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to employ him? I accept the integrity of John Yates, he is a

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senior officer. John Yates, the assistant commissioner who resigned

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yesterday, confirmed that Neil Wallis had been a friend, if not a

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bosom buddy, for 10 years. He was also the officer that decided there

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was no need to reopen the inquiry following revelations by a Guardian

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journalist Nick Davies. Back in the chair he had occupied only a week

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ago, Mr Yates told the committee that he thought his role in Neil

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Wallis's appointment had been override to. I sought assurances

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from Neil Wallis before the contract was made. I had a note,

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you can read it if you like, to the effect, is there anything in the

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matters that Nick Davies is still following that could embarrass you,

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me, or the Metropolitan Police. I received categorical assurances.

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was also asked about a job at Scotland Yard given to Neil

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Wallis's daughter. He had sent her CV to the head of recruitment.

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had absolutely nothing to do with her employment. I was simply a post

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box. And then there were questions today about yet another News of the

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World reporter, arrested over phone hacking, who it is claimed worked

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as an informant at the yard, Neville Thurlbeck. The hearing

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didn't just focus on the links between Met and the Mayor ofs. But

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detectives and Downing Street. An e-mail exchange has emerged between

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Mr Yates and Ed Lee will end, David Cameron's chief of staff, in which

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the officer suggests briefing the Prime Minister on phone hacking

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Ed, for whatever reason, didn't think it was appropriate for him,

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the Prime Minister what anybody else in Number Ten to discuss this

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issue with you. It's very simple and I can understand it, in one

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sense. The mirrored glass at Scotland Yard attempts to reflect

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attention away from the organisation. Tonight, a mirror is

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being held up to the Met, over its relationships with News

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International and Number Ten. The crisis here is far from over.

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With me, after this remarkable day, Nick Robinson and Robert Peston.

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Mecca, I'll start with you. You were in that the committee room,

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you saw it all happening. What impression did it make? There is

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one impression I will carry for the rest of my life, it was not

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captured by the cameras, but it was the sight of perhaps the greatest

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media tycoon anyone in this country has seen with a great big custard

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pie on his face. That's what the cameras didn't pick it up. It fits

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in with his phrase, the most humble day of his life. The humbling came

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when he had to claim, or admit, depending on your point of you,

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that whatever question was asked, he didn't know the detail. He

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couldn't tell you what, when, all of the things that added up to the

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doubts about what happened in his company. For the man that

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controlled his company with an iron fist for so long, I think either

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that wasn't true or it was a very Robert, you see this performance

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today, but looking up the more commercial context, given that the

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stakes are high, how do they come out of it? It is the first night in

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two weeks where it is not obvious to me that they are conspicuously

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worse off than the previous night. Therefore I think the two will be

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breathing something of a sigh of relief. That said, it was momentous.

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None of us have seen a dynasty grilled by MPs. You had James

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Murdoch, many would say surprisingly relaxed for most of it.

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In touch with most of the detail except on that occasion which I

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think many will see as profoundly shocking when he admitted that the

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company had continued to pay the legal expenses of Glenn Mulcaire,

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the private investigator who they hired to hack the phones of

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countless people. They continue to pay his legal expenses long after

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he had been imprisoned. That was a shocking moment. By contrast,

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Rupert Murdoch, I think people will be surprised to see this chap who

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has been feared, I think, by politicians, regarded widely as the

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most powerful media tycoon in the world, halting and slightly

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stumbling in his answers. His defence was largely that he did not

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know, and how could he be expected to be, because the News of the

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World was a relatively small part of his great global empire. Not

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everybody will find that a convincing explanation, not

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everybody will find that a justification. The big question

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tonight is did we see a transfer of power from father, Rupert Murdoch,

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to a son, James Murdoch? Did we see the beginning of an inexorable

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seeping away of the Murdoch family, or was it a bit of both? If Nick,

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we will be back later to talk about where this leaves David Cameron.

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The owner, back to you. The rest of the day's news now, and

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a famine will be officially declared an parts of Somalia.

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Across the region an estimated 10 million people have been affected

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by severe drought, but conditions have deteriorated so badly that the

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UN is expected to announce tomorrow that famine has returned to East

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Africa for the first time in 19 years. At least half a million

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children are thought to be at risk of death. Andrew Harding reports

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from Johannesburg. It has been getting worse for

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months. Emaciated families dragging themselves out of Somalia in search

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of food. Tens of thousands crowding into camps like this one, Dadaab in

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Kenya. Now a famine is about to be declared in at least two regions of

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Somalia. The emotive word is rarely used,

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conjuring, as it does, images like these. Ethiopia, 1984. This year's

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crisis is not yet on that scale. That Somalia has now crossed a grim

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threshold. In the crude science of hunger and aid, famine officially

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occurs when a third of young children are acutely malnourished

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and four children in every 10,000 are dying daily. It is declared a

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famine, the international response mechanisms treasured does Margaret

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triggered as a result of triggering a famine -- declaring a famine are

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completely different to an emergency. International aid effort

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ramp up at a different scale to help the disaster victims.

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Four hors that Africa is prone to drought and crippled by property --

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the Horn of Africa. I turned the rubble of Mogadishu recently, two

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decades worth of anarchy. It is hardly a sanctuary but people are

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coming here in search of food. Last week it was announced that a ban on

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foreign aid organisations was being lifted, but the UN says too many

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obstacles remain. British charities are hoping the F-word, famine, will

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provoke a new surge in donations, but the short-term looks bleak and

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the longer term not much better. Detectives say the person

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responsible for contaminating saline drips at a Stockport

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hospital could still be there. Three people have died at Stepping

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Hill hospital and a 4th is seriously ill. Officers believe in

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Siu Lynn was deliberately injected into saline containers used in

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drips. Ed Thomas reports. Every car checked in and out.

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Police covering hospital entrances. All for good reason. Three people

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have died and someone at this hospital contaminated their

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medicine. This is a criminal act perpetrated by someone with

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malicious intent. We don't believe it could have been anticipated.

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Here are the people whose deaths are being investigated. Tracey

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Arden, a mother of two, Arnold Lancaster, 71, and 84 year-old

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great-grandfather George Keep. All three were given saline and pure

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similar to this, but instead they had been filled with insulin, which

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can cause blood sugar levels to fall. It has left patients and

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visitors worried about their safety. It is worrying, because you never

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know whether you are going to go in there next, do you? You might take

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kill yourself. Frightened. You just don't once took be ill. Security

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has been increased. Saline is now kept in a locked room. The medics

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work in pairs if they want to administer drugs. Security is tight

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here everywhere because we still do not know who is contaminating the

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saline. -- who has contaminated the saline. It could be a visitor to

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the hospital, but what concerns people the most is that it could be

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somebody who works here. It is horrible to think that somebody may

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be deliberately trying to harm patients. And may still be working

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here? Our investigator Shen is focusing on those working in a

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visiting the hospital. -- our investigation is focusing. Police

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await postmortem results. It is hoped they will show what caused

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the patients here to die. The International Monetary Fund has

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called for urgent action to resolve Europe's debt crisis, warning it

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risks major impact in the global economy. Eurozone finance ministers

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are due in Brussels on Thursday for emergency talks aimed at shoring up

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Greek finances. The German Chancellor Angela Merkel today

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warned it was unlikely that this would draw a line under the wider

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problems. The Competition Commission has

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ruled that the airport operator BAA must sell two of its six airports,

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including Stansted and either Edinburgh or Glasgow. BAA's Chief

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Executive said this was a reasonably draconian and he would

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consider a judicial review. The Government has given the go-

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ahead for a widespread badger cull and parts of England to help stop

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the spread of tuberculosis in Caputh -- in cattle. Thousands of

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infected cattle have been slaughtered. It is thought that

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badgers harbour the disease and pass it on. Ministers have been

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trying to decide on a Toyota for two decades, but there are warnings

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it may still happen. -- trying to decide on a cull for two decades.

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This is one of hundreds of areas where bovine tuberculosis has

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struck. Farmer David have lost 18 cattle to TB this year alone.

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have been slaughtered, 18 cows less producing milk. Have you any doubt

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that badgers play a role? No, I think it is pretty well accepted

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generally that badgers have a significant role in the

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transmission of the disease. Scientists agree that badgers carry

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bovine TB, but at the same time they are a much-loved, iconic

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character of the British countryside. Ministers know their

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decision to back a cull of thousands of badgers will be

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bitterly opposed by activists and even some farmers. Personally, I do

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not think it will work, mainly because I think any infected

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badgers just get forced into wider areas, and my biggest concern is

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public backlash. The idea put forward by ministers is badgers on

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farms like this will be shot by trained marksmen. Initially there

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will be two pilot areas, the idea being to make sure the job can be

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done effectively, efficiently and humanely. Already campaigners whose

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High Court action overturned the official Welsh policy for a badger

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cull are preparing for a similar legal battle in England. No cull is

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planned in Northern Ireland or Scotland, which is free of bovine

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Now more on our top story. The evidence given to MPs by Rupert

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Murdoch, his St James and former News of the World editor Rebekah

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Brooks. Over to Huw Edwards in Westminster.

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David Cameron has just returned a short while ago from a trip to

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Africa and will tomorrow face probably his biggest parliamentary

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test since he became PM. He will make a statement to MPs on this

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phone hacking scandal and will face questions from MPs. Nick Robinson

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joins me. Lots of questions for the Murdochs, but questions for the

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Prime Minister, too? Questions raised in part by what happened to

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the police, that relationship with a man called Neil Wallis, the

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deputy editor of the News of the World and, at the time, deputy to

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Andy Coulson, the man who was later hired to be director of

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communications to the Prime Minister. I think Labour's Ed

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Miliband will again and again say to the Prime Minister that he is

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compromised in part by news that we learn tonight that Mr Wallis may

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have advised to David Cameron by Andy Coulson before the last

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election. No money was exchanged, nobody else and the Conservatives

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knew about it, but there was contact. It is not a very helpful

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in to Number Ten. Also a great series of questions has been raised

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by the police about whether David Cameron was compromise cent could

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not have learned the things he should have learnt from senior

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police officers. The Cabinet Office says that the Chief of Staff at

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Downing Street behaved as he should have done, he followed the book by

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not having meetings with police officers. Let's think about the

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challenge for Mr Cameron at the dispatch box in the Commons

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tomorrow. What is the kind of mood among his parliamentary colleagues

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and the challenge for him? They want to sense that David Cameron

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can find a way out of the quagmire. He has to show he has answered the

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questions that matter to ordinary people. There is a proper police

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inquiry, a formal, judge-led inquiry, all the steps are being

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taken to clean up the police and the relationship between

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politicians and the media. What he has not to do is prove he has been

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dragged down by the appointment of Andy Coulson. Some dark humour of

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the year, the Prime Minister saw none of this, he was on the plane

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back from Africa. -- some dark humour for you. It was relayed by

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telephone, and fortunately the line was quite crackly, so the word went

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around that Rupert Murdoch had been hit, not by foam in the face, but

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by a phone. Quite appropriate! can keep up-to-date on the BBC

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website at bbc.co.uk/news. You can find out all the key points, video

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