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Tonight at Ten: New allegations about knowledge of phone hacking

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inside the News of the World. Clive Goodman, the paper's former

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Royal editor claims the practice was regularly discussed by senior

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figures. More questions for former editor

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Andy Coulson who became an adviser to David Cameron as MPs demand

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answers. I can only assume this has been a

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cover-up. This letter it is devastating.

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And James Murdoch is among the executives who might be recalled to

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give evidence to Parliament. We'll be asking how significant the

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latest evidence could turn out to Also tonight: France and Germany

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want much closer economic co- operation across the Eurozone to

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fight the debt crisis. For inciting a riot using Facebook

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- two men from Cheshire get four years in jail.

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Train fares to rise by around 8% next year, boosted by higher

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inflation. My salary won't go up by 8%. It will cost me more. My rail

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fare is now �4,000 a year. And, a big day for the Olympic Park

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as thousands of basketball fans are Good evening.

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Phone hacking was a routine activity at the News of the World

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and mentioned at daily meetings according to the paper's former

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Royal editor. Clive Goodman made the claim in a letter written four

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years ago and released today by a Parliamentary committee. It raises

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new questions about the awareness of staff, including the former

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editor, Andy Coulson, who was later employed by David Cameron. This

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report by Robert Peston, contains some flash photography.

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Clive Goodman, disgraced former Royal editor of the News of the

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World, imprisoned in 2007, for her phone hacking. A letter he wrote in

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2007 has returned to haunt the owner of News International.

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Obtained by the Culture Select Committee which is investigating

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phone hacking, Mr Goodman wrote phone hacking was widely discussed

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in the Daily editorial conference until explicit reference to it was

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banned by the editor. The letter refers to Tom Crone, the former

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legal manager at News International and Andy Coulson, editor of the

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and Andy Coulson, editor of the News of the World from 2003, to

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I can only assume there has been a cover-up. This letter is

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devastating. Clive Goodman's testimony shows he believed others,

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every member of the editorial team was aware of phone hacking and the

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police were not told about it. it is to Andy Coulson you about

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phone hacking, more questions will be asked about why David Cameron

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employed him as his communications director and took him into Downing

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Street. Andy Coulson's boss, Rupert Murdoch and James Murdoch said they

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did not prove the extent of phone hacking until recently because of

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advice they received in a letter from a law firm, Harbottle & Lewis.

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And it was a bit of legal advice from senior council that was

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provided to the company that the company rested on. What is

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embarrassing for James Murdoch is a long report written by the relevant

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firm of solicitors, Harbottle & Lewis for the select committee,

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says Mr Murdoch was completely wrong to rely on their 2007 Letter

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as being evidence there wasn't widespread wrongdoing at the News

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of the World. Harbottle & Lewis said they did not conduct a

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detailed, for investigation. They did a very narrow piece of work

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relating to an employment dispute. What is equally embarrassing for

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James Murdoch is John Chapman, the legal affairs director of News

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International at the time, corroborates Harbottle & Lewis's

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version of events. The question for the Murdochs is, is in time will

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they come to be seen to have told the whole truth to the

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Parliamentary committee? News International said tonight it

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recognises the seriousness of materials disclose to the police

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and Parliament and is working in an open way with the relevant

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authorities. The News of the World may no longer be rolling off the

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presses, but questions cannot be killed, such as why Clive Goodman's

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letter was not immediately passed to the police by News International.

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And Robert Peston is here now. Let's talk about the implications

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for Andy Coulson? This letter makes a serious allegation against Andy

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Coulson. It says on several occasions he attempted to induce

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Clive Goodman, who was being tried for illegal phone hacking, to keep

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his mouth shut about alleged wrongdoing by others at the News of

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the World. And if he kept his mouth shut, says Clive Goodman in his

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letter, Andy Coulson said he could have his job back, even if he was

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convicted of a serious offence. Andy Coulson is not speaking

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tonight, his lawyer say he does not want to make a statement at this

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stage. But certainly, this allegation goes to the heart of his

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claim that he didn't know about wider wrongdoing and that carried

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out by Clive Goodman. And of course, it will again put pressure on the

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Prime Minister to explain why he did not dig deeper about precisely

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what Andy Coulson you and went about wrongdoing at the News of the

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World. Because Andy Coulson ended up working for the Prime Minister.

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Let's look at the broader picture. The implications for News

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International and to Rupert and Robert Murdoch? Another disclosure

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tonight is Clive Goodman, convicted of other serious crime, imprisons

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received �244,000 after he was imprisoned from News International.

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We have also learned, Les Hinton who ran News International wanted

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to give him only a year's salary and he said at the time, which

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would have been �90,000 - he said he was lucky to get back because in

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his view he was guilty of gross negligence. In those circumstances,

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people will wonder why on earth they paid in �244,000. People will

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ask if it was to keep his mouth Who recently explained why there

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wasn't a thorough row investigation at News Of The World by citing a

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letter produced a letter. There was no detailed investigation carried

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out by them that led to that letter and people within News

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International knew that letter could not be relied upon in any way.

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As evidence there was not wider wrongdoing. Tonight, the story has

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moved on from the hacking story into big questions about whether

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there was an extensive cover up at News International and who knew

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about it if there was a cover up. Thank you.

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France and Germany have called for much closer economic integration

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within the eurozone to deal with the ongoing debt crisis. Chancellor

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Merkel and President Sarkozy meeting in Paris today, talked of

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creating true economic governance involving the 17 countries which

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share the euro. Pressure has increased after the latest figures

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show economic growth has more or less stalled across the zone,

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including in Germany. Let's join Gavin Hewitt in Paris tonight.

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Many people have said of the eurozone, you can't have monetary

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union with fiscal union. That's coordination of taxation and

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spending. They haven't quite got it yet. Chancellor Merkel and

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President Sarkozy today signalled there would be much closer economic

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integration of the eurozone. The two key leaders of the eurozone

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met in Paris today, knowing they needed to restore confidence in

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their ability to fix Europe's debt But the day began with some

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discouraging news - Germany, the engine room of the eurozone with a

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stellar manufacturing sector, saw its growth sharply reduced.

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Everybody was expecting Germany would have a good year. So we are

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deeply surprised and concerned about the German figures. In the

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past three months Germany any manage growth of 0.1%, and French

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growth is currently stagnant. For the eurozone as a whole, growth is

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bumping along at just 0.2%. When Chancellor Angela Merkel met it

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with President Sarkozy, they agreed far-reaching changes to the

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eurozone. There will be much closer economic integration, including

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limits on debt. Although many details are missing, the French

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President spoke of economic governance, with an elected

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President. TRANSLATION: A first proposal is to

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create an economic Government for the eurozone. They will meet twice

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a year and more often if necessary. It will elect a stable President

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that 2.5 years. Some have argued the only way out of the crisis was

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for a country debts become Corran European debt with Germany acting

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as the main guarantor. But Angela Merkel dismissed what are being

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called Euro bombs for the time being.

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TRANSLATION: The real question is what is best for overcoming the

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crisis. Over and over again people are looking for one fix that will

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sort everything and lift us out of the crisis. That is why people are

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urging Euro bombs. Despite all of the talk about greater control and

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supervision of the eurozone economies, one big question

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remained unanswered. What happens if a major economy get into

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difficulty? How will it be helped and rescued? And the two leaders

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meeting today made it clear there would be no new money for the

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current rescue fund. Make no mistake, these proposals are a step

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towards a closer union, sovereignty will be surrendered. What was on

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offer today was a long-term political plan, not an answer to

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Europe's current debt crisis. All of this got a mixed reception, the

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consensus was it happens to defuse the crisis. Why? This is because

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markets and investors are focused on debt, low growth and a fragile

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banking system, and not much was said about any of those today.

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Two men from Cheshire have each been jailed for four years for

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using the internet to incite people to take part in last week's riots.

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The sentencing took place as the Government announced plans to

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increase police powers in England and Wales, including the

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possibility of curfews, as our correspondent, Chris Buckler,

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reports. An invitation to a riot, delivered

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on Facebook. An online crime judges are taking seriously. Warrington

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man, Perry Sutcliffe Keenan was jailed at Chester Crown Court for

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four years for inciting disorder on a social networking sites. He is

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not the only one. In a separate case at the same court, Jordan

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Blackshaw was sent to prison, again in connection with a riot that

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never took place. An event was created on Facebook called smashed

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down and gave a date, a time and the place to meet, at the back of

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the McDonald's restaurant. His family did not want to talk, other

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than saying they were upset. Among neighbours there were shocked at

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the length of the sentence. years, just for putting it on

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Facebook. If he had gone and done it and rioting in Northwich, he

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would have deserved it. But not just for putting it on Facebook.

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think they are using it as an example. Concerns about social

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networking be used to organise trouble have been of concern. The

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Met Police learned of de -- trouble at Oxford Street, and the Olympic

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site through blackberry Messenger and considered closing the services

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down. A guided contemplate seeking the authority to switch it off. The

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legality is very questionable. That question of what more could

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have been done to stop this destruction is still being asked

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and the Government is considering giving the police new powers,

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including the ability to impose a curfew. Should it be possible to

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impose a curfew across the geographical area and have extra

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powers for curfews for people under 16. The Home Secretary's proposals

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did attract a good deal of support in Salford. But there is a divide

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in opinion between the generations. Or you see now is young kids on

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corners with bottles and drinking. You did not see that years ago.

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What do you think about the idea of a curfew? I don't think it should

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happen. But if things are being smashed up. You stick up for the

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police. I'm not, the police are there to do a job! In these

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communities the focus is on repair and retribution. The Government

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says it shouldn't the army cadets doing this work in the future, it

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should be those responsible for doing the damage.

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The cost of living rose again last month, for rent, cloves and

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financial services. The CBI was up 4.4% and the persistently higher

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rate is to have a significant impact on rail passengers. Most

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regulated fares in England, including season tickets are to be

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increased by the Government by 3% above inflation by January. Richard

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Scott's report on the changes and the reaction.

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We take over a billion journeys a year on railways, travelling on

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21,000 miles of track across Britain for holidays, business

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trips and commuting. Regulated fares light season tickets go up by

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July's RPI inflation plus 3%. So the average season ticket next year

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will go up by 8%. Train companies can increase some furs by another

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5%, for a rise of up to 13% as long as they balance that with

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reductions elsewhere. Both those increases are lot more than the

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average rise of a wage increase of 2.1%. My salary won't go up by 8%,

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so it will cost me more. It is disgraceful. I come from Salisbury

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every day and my rail fare is now �4,900 a year. There are exceptions,

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passengers on ScotRail and Arriva Trains Wales will see fares go up

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by an average of 6%. The overall rise will see a typical season-

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ticket of around �2,000 goes up by We're concerned that people be

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forced back onto our roads and we could see more emissions, more

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congestion as a result of price rises. There could be some evidence

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of that. This company says people are switching to coaches because

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trains are too expensive. The cost of the railways is split between

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taxpayers and fare payers. If one pays more, the other could pay less.

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Because rail fares have been going up over the last few years by more

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than inflation and because more people are travelling by trains the

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fare contribution has gone up to �6.6 billion. That's allowed the

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taxpayer contribution to fall from �6.3 billion to �4 billion. The

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extra money from the fare rises revealed today is passed on to the

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Government. This is a difficult decision, a decision we didn't have

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to take, but we simply didn't have a choice. If we were going to

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deliver the improvements passengers are calling for, and do that in a

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way which doesn't jeopardise our plan for reducing deficit, we had

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to ask passengers to pay more. campaigners point out that although

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fare rises are happening now, the projects like cross-rail and Thames

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link, which those increases pay for, won't be finished until nearly the

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end of the decade. Coming up tonight: I'll be

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reporting from the very top of one of the largest wind turbines in the

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world. It's just been built in the Irish Sea and I'll ask are these

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giant structures the right things to give Britain its energy in the

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future? Representatives of the Gaddafi

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regime and some rebel figures are reported to have take be part --

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part in talks in recent days in tuenizya. The reports came as

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senior figures in the US Government said Gaddafi's days were numbered

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and NATO said the rebels were succeeding in cutting supply lines

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to the regime. Our Middle East editor, Jeremy Bowen, is in Tunisia

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tonight with the latest. What do you make of these reports?

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Westminster, there's quite a bit of diplomatic -- well, there's quite a

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bit of diplomatic activity going on but not a great deal of achievement.

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On a holiday island, Venezuelan envoys have been going between a

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delegation from Tripoli, including apparently the gas minister, local

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sources say and opposition group. As well as that, the UN secretary-

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general's envoy has been in town. He's been talking to the Tunisians.

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To show how hard this job is, he's been doing it for about three

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months. He's been to Tripoli seven times. He's been shuttling between

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the two sides and they're no closer together. The sticking point seems

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to be the same thing, which is the Libyan Government have been putting

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out feelers for a deal. They'd love a deal. But it's one that Colonel

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Gaddafi in some guise stays. The starting point for the rebels and

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they're NATO backers is that king has to go and then maybe they can

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talk about -- king -- Colonel Gaddafi has to go and then they can

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talk about deals. So it's pretty clear that the question of who

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rules Libya will be decided by the Civil War and not by diplomacy.

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Thank you very much. Jeremy Bowen in Tunisia tonight.

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NPower is the latest company to announce a sharp rise in

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electricity prices by more than 7%, prompting more debate about

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sourcing our energy in the years to come. Around a quarter of the UK's

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electricity is meant to come from offshore wind power in the next ten

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years. But it is a very expensive project, which could mean even

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higher bills. David Shukman reports from

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Britain's newest windfarm off the coast of Cumbria.

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Forest of wind turbines arising off Britain's shores, this is the

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Government's great hope for green energy. But building these thing sz

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a real challenge. You need a special vessel like this. It can

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stand on the sea bed and lift itself up. We watched the process

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unfolding. A crane winchs each component into

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place. This is a section of the tower. Waiting for it are

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construction workers ready with the huge bolts to hold it in place. All

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this makes planting wind turbines at sea very expensive. The machines

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are more out of the way than on land, but the cost gets passed onto

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consumers, already facing rising bills. It's true to say that

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offshore wind is relatively expensive right now. It will come

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doub in the next ten or 20 years. One of the great benefits is it's

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home grown electricity. It's late evening, but the work keeps going

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as they enter a critical phase, lifting the giant set of blades off

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the deck. They're now angling this huge rotor so that it's in the

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right position to be hoisted right up and fitted to the very top of

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the tower. Nice and slow. metres up a tiny figure leans out

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as the rotor gets close. Down on deck, they cling to the tip of a

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blade, the biggest danger, ironically, is a sudden gust of

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wind. Then the final approach. This is one of the largest turbines in

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the world. Just before midnight the job is done. Off the coast of

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Cumbria, this windfarm has 30 turbines, but even when they're

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this big, you'd still need 200 of them to match the electricity

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produced by a conventional power station and only when the wind

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blows. Here goes with one of the longest ladders in history, I'm

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sure. Inside it's a very long journey to the top. I'm hooked on

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for safety. The technicians who work here have to be specially

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trained and they need a head for heights. When you're this high up

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and this far out in the ocean, it is generally pretty windy, like

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today, ideal when this insulation is complete for shifting these

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giant blades and making electricity. But when you look at the sheer size

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of this great structure and think about the cost and challenge of

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building it, the question is is the Government right to want thousands

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more of these things right around our shores?

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This is an expensive way of reducing carbon emissions. Let's

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get serious about climate change. Let's really do things about global

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warming. Let's not pretend that by building lots of windfarms we're

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making a major contribution. The Government says pioneering wind

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technology at sea will create jobs, cut carbon emissions and take

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advantage of being an island nation. But the price will be high and it's

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only just starting. Just under a year to go until the

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start of the Olympic Games in London, the first test event has

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been held at the main site in East London. People have been allowed

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into the basketball arena in the Olympic Park in Stratford to watch

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a series of match being so that organisers can spot any potential

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problems. David Bond was there. Another important milestone for

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London 2012, British basketball's first game in their new home and

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the first competitive action on the Olympic Park. For those fan who's

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paid for the privilege to be here, it was also a chance to get a

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better idea of how the London Olympics will feel. So this is what

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greets you upon arrival at the Olympic Park, airport-style

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security with metal detectors, bag scans and body searches. Security

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officials say they don't want to spoil the fan experience, but with

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the Olympics such an obvious target for terrorists, security has to be

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a priority. It's all new territory for Great Britain's basketball

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players too. Team GB haven't entered the Olympics since 1948.

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The sport it hoping to capitalise on the interest generated at next

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year's Games. The fans will come. Demographic will be there and will

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appeal to some of the younger generation who will see a sport

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that is fairly unknown to them. They'll be able to tell their

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friends, hey I think I want to pick up a different sport. Despite

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spending �42 million on this arena it won't provide a lasting physical

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legacy, not for London any way. After Games it will be torn down

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and sold off. Over the last month, London has hosted a series of Test

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