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Tonight at ten: A new European treaty on the cards, with or

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without British involvement. Germany and France decide a new

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treaty with tough new rules is the best way to avoid another debt

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crisis. Whatever has happened must never happen again, and for this

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reason we want a new treaty. It's a new challenge for David

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Cameron and the coalition, but the Prime Minister doesn't think a

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referendum will be needed. It is impossible for a British government

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to pass power from Britain to Brussels without asking the British

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people in a referendum first. We'll have all the reaction,

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including a relatively positive response from the financial markets.

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Also tonight: For mis-selling investment products to elderly

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people, HSBC gets a record fine. Thousands on the streets of Moscow,

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alleging fraud in yesterday's parliamentary elections.

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Matching the might of Beijing - how the budget for the London Olympic

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ceremonies has doubled. And Martin Boyce produces an indoor

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park with paper leaves to win this In Sportsday, I will have the news

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Good evening. Germany and France want a tough new European treaty in

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place by March to safeguard the future of the euro and to ease the

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debt crisis. What's more, they've made it clear that they'll do it

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with or without British involvement. Chancellor Merkel and President

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Sarkozy held talks in Paris today ahead of a crucial EU summit later

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this week. Our Europe Editor Gavin Hewitt sent this report from Paris.

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This was the start of a crucial week for the eurozone, with key

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summit. The curtain raiser was here in Paris with a meeting between the

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leaders of France and Germany, the two most powerful countries in the

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eurozone. They called for a new treaty that would make sure

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overspending never happened again. With automatic sanctions for

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countries who broke the rules. The two leaders wanted to stress their

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determination. TRANSLATION: We want to go on a march to re-establish

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our confidence in the eurozone. We have not got time, we are well

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aware of the seriousness of the situation and the responsibility on

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our shoulders. The German Chancellor said she hoped all

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states would agree to a treaty change but would accept it if it

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was just limited to the countries in the eurozone. We are open to

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changes to the treaty with just 17 members if necessary. We are

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determined to keep the euro as a stable currency. They hope that by

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signing up to a tough deal on spending limits, it will make it

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easier for the European Central Bank to help countries struggling

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to finance their debts. What has been agreed? The leaders will push

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for an urgent treaty change, although many details remain

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unclear. There will be strict budget limits, deficits will not be

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allowed to exceed 3% of GDP, and there will be automatic sanctions

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agreed for those who break the rules. In a country protective of

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its national pride, there is concern that these changes are

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eroding sovereignty. The opposition fears that the overside to budgets

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by a European Court would weaken the role of Parliament in France.

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Being in the euro, respecting some discipline, doesn't mean we lose

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any control on our own economy policy. If the treaty change

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involves all 27 members, it will need British support if the changes

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are significant they could trigger referenda elsewhere. The Prime

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Minister was asked today about holding a referendum in the UK.

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approach is simple - we have legislated now so it is impossible

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for a British government to pass power from Britain to Brussels

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without asking the British people in a referendum first. I am not

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intending to pass any powers from Britain to Brussels. Sir what

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happens next? European countries including Britain will be asked

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this Friday whether in principle they back treaty change. The big

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question is how long this whole process will take. What today's

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plans did not address was the fundamental issue of debt and low-

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growth. While the markets responded

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positively to the news from Paris easing pressure on Italy and Spain,

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there's more uncertainty tonight as one of the leading credit agencies

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is said to be warning that it could downgrade the ratings of some of

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the EU's biggest economies, including Germany. Our economics

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editor Stephanie Flanders asks whether today's longer-term plan is

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in danger of ignoring the immediate crisis. You might think it a bit

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strange, this blue-sky thinking about what the eurozone will like

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in the future, when the question in financial markets is whether it

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will survive the year, but there is a logic here. To have confidence in

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the year Road today, Germany and many in the markets need to have

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faith this crisis will not happen again. They also need to see budget

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cuts now from countries that have borrowed too much, like Italy.

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European markets were upbeat about the plan to save the euro today but

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that is because investors think the new budget rules will pave the way

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for parte two - Germany agreeing to stand behind eurozone government

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debt in future, and part three - the European Central Bank doing

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more now to support countries like Italy. We only had hints of those

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last two today, but many are convinced the European Central Bank

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will act if others do their part. On Friday, I think we will get

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something from the European Central Bank to support the banks - more

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liquidity - but probably a signal that governments need to deliver

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more on fiscal integration before it will open up its balance sheet

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in the way financial markets are desperate. There was one part of

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the press conference today that markets liked a lot, and caused the

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cost of borrowing for Italy to fall. That was when the leaders said

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there would be no more Greek style write-offs of government debt.

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big problem potentially in markets would have been in 2012 an Italian

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debt restructuring. The announcement today essentially

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reduces that risk because you have a very firm statement, almost a

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guarantee, from the French and Germans there will not be any

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further write-offs on debt in the eurozone. The eurozone had a good

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day, until the ratings agency put nearly all the eurozone countries

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on negative credit watch, meaning the strongest ones have a 50%

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chance of losing their triple A credit rating in the next 90 days.

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As far as the markets are concerned, the leaders have less time than

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that to fill out the holes in the plans.

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David Cameron said today he would take part in any treaty

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negotiations and defend British interests. Our deputy political

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editor James Landale is in Downing Street. James, really just to

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remind viewers what we have heard because France and Germany making

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it clear they will go ahead with or without British involvement. How

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much of a problem is that for David Cameron? The events of today are

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good news for him. Any deal that could save the euro will be good

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for his government, but there are political pressures. Some

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Conservative MPs want a referendum on the treaty, but David Cameron

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today has said that will not happen. The debate now is more about how

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the government can use the negotiations to try to get

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something back from Brussels. Many MPs fear that somehow a fiscal

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union of 17 eurozone countries will start organising together,

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sidelining the UK and taking decisions potentially against our

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national interest. For example a decision that some financial

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instruments must only be traded within the euro. They want greater

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protection for the city of London. Others want to go further and say

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now is the time to start repatriating powers from Brussels.

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Today David Cameron said he wanted to get something back that would

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enhance and protect our international interest.

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HSBC, one of Britain's biggest banks, says it's profoundly sorry

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for mis-selling financial products to elderly customers. The bank has

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been fined more than �10 million by the Financial Services Authority

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after selling unsuitable investment bonds to elderly people going into

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residential care. HSBC could pay nearly �30 million in compensation,

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as our chief economics correspondent Hugh Pym explains.

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The customers were elderly, they were given the wrong financial

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advice, and today HSBC said sorry. They were sold investment products

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to cover the cost of living in care homes, their money was tied up for

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five years, but some were unlikely to even live that long according to

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the regulator. We thought HSBC led down a particularly vulnerable

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group of customers, many were elderly, and they came to HSBC

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looking for advice and they were sold unsuitable product in many

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cases. This is the boss of NHFA, the company which provided

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misleading advice to elderly customers. Based in Oxfordshire, it

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was bought by HSBC in 2005, and eventually closed down earlier this

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year by the Bank, which has taken full responsibility for what went

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on. Nearly 2500 customers were advised to invest by the subsidiary.

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87% were mis-sold the product with an average investment of �115,000.

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Age UK was actively promoting NHFA as a place to get advice on

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investments and care fees. It was described as our chosen firm.

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the aged did work with the company, but when the two charities merged

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to become Age UK we decided this was not an area of business we

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wanted to beat in. A senior HSBC executive said he fully accepted

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suitable advice was not given to some customers, that it shouldn't

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have happened, and he was profoundly sorry. Bank sources

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added tonight but when they became aware of potential problems in NHFA

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in 2009, they alerted the Financial Services Authority and tightened up

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sales procedures. But the bank has been fined more than �10 million.

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It may also have to pay out as much as 30 million in compensation to

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the customers and their families. President Karzai of Afghanistan has

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said his country will need outside support for at least a decade, well

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beyond the departure of NATO forces in two years' time. Delegates from

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more than 90 countries attended the international conference in Bonn.

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Two of the most significant players, Pakistan and the Taleban, did not

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attend. Thousands of Russians gathered in

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the centre of Moscow today to protest at apparent irregularities

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during yesterday's parliamentary elections, and to call for Prime

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Minister Putin to resign. Official observers from the EU say the poll

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was conducted unfairly. The Americans say they, too, have

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serious concerns. Daniel Sandford sent this report. Less than a mile

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from the Kremlin on an upmarket Boulevard, riot police struggling

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to clear the biggest demonstration this city has seen since the 1990s.

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It was an almost spontaneous reaction to what the crowd believed

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was a fixed election. Russia without Putin, they shouted, their

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anger focused on the Prime Minister, Vladimir Putin, who has been in

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power for almost 12 years and who is now blamed for presiding over a

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bureaucracy tainted by rampant corruption. We look back and

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realise we have got nothing, no reform of the police or the army,

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no battle against corruption. It is obvious people who two years ago

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were fervent supporters of Vladimir Putin, they say now you have not

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done anything and that is why we don't support you. What made this

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demonstration remarkable was not just the size, also the protesters

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themselves. They were young middle- class people who feel that they

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have no future. But they can't see how to change it when they feel the

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elections are so unfair. This has been a bad month for Vladimir Putin.

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First he was booed in public, then he lost a third of his seats in

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parliament and now there has been the biggest demonstration in Moscow

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for more than a decade, but the opposition are not well-organised

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and it is unclear if they can Coming up on tonight's programme:

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A closer look at the indoor park with paper leaves which scooped

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this year's Turner Prize for modern The budget for the main ceremonies

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at the London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games has been doubled

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following the Prime Minister's intervention. Mr Cameron gave the

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go-ahead for an increase to �81 million after seeing the plans. The

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extra money comes from within the overall Games budget. Spending on

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security has also risen sharply as The opening of the Beijing Games,

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the most impressive and extravagant Olympic ceremony yet.

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We have been told that London wouldn't try to compete with this.

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In 2012 we would see the austerity version, but after a direct

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intervention from the Prime Minister, the budget for next

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year's ceremonies has been doubled. The total cost of London's Olympic

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and Paralympic ceremonies was due to be around �40 million. The

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Government is putting an extra �41 million to bring the total to over

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�81 million. It is the Government's responsibility to fund the

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construction of the Olympic venues. It is the job of the organising

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committee to pay for the shows that take place inside them. So there

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wasn't meant to be a penny of taxpayers money spent on the

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opening and closing ceremonies. The costs should have been covered by

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income from ticket sales and sponsorship.

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One of the main reasons London won the right to host the Games was its

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promise to keep them affordable. A key member of that winning team is

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unimpressed with today's announcement.

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It is unbelievable that they have doubled the budget on the opening

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ceremonies which only last for a few hours when they ought to be

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investing that money and the vast mo mo jort of people would say in

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our young athletes and in school sports which has been cut and is an

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an investment for life, not just for a few hours.

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The global television audience of an Olympic opening ceremony runs

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into the billions. The Government argues it would be foolish not to

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maximise the opportunity to advertise our country. The better

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the show, and yes, of course, the fireworks, the greater the return

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on the investment. This Is a moment next summer when the eyes of the

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world world will be looking. It is incumbent on us in Government to

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maximise that opportunity, to drive the maximum benefit for the economy

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and for tourism. The Government is paying an extra

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�271 million for venue security. The overall budget remains the same,

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Police investigating the murder of two women in Southport want to

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speak to a man who's believed to have fled the country. A post-

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mortem has confirmed that Angela Holgate and her mother Alice Huyton

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had been asphyxiated. Police are trying to find Mrs Holgate's lodger,

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Barry Morrow. He was spotted in France on Saturday evening and may

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At the Old Bailey, the Stephen Lawrence murder trial has been told

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that textile fibres from Stephen's clothing were found on a jacket at

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the home of one of the men on trial. The fibres were discovered in a

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cold case review in 2007, 14 years after the murder took place in

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South-East London. Gary Dobson and David Norris both deny murder. Tom

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18 years after the killing of Stephen Lawrence, the court today

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examined whether clothing fibres link the teenager with the two men

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in the dock. The jury heard a cold case review brought Gary Dobson's

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jacket back to a forensics lab in 2007. Scientists found 16 clothing

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fibres among samples taken from the jacket or the bag it was kept in.

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They found one piece of of dried blood with two blue threads running

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through it. These two fibres came, the court heard, from this jumper

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belonging to Stephen. More evidence was found. Rare

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fibres coloured red and pink, one stained with what appeared to be

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blood. Forensic scientists Roy Green said they matched the

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material of this polo shirt worn by Stephen that night. Summing up his

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conclusions, he said, the combination of blood, DNA and

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fibres provide extremely persuasive evidence to link the wearer of the

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grey jacket to the attack itself or to contact with the perpetrator

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afterwards. The jury heard that that conclusion

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could only stand if the evidence had not been contaminated over the

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years. The defence has claimed that mishandling of evidence bags has

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resulted in blood and fibres from Stephen's clothes getting mixed up

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with those belonging to the suspects.

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A defence bar barrister asked Mr Green to explain how fibres from

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under clothes could have escaped during the attack. The scientist's

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theory, Stephen's jacket was Major international talks to tackle

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global climate change have entered a second decisive week in South

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Africa. One of proposals being considered there is whether

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countries should be PAID to protect the forests which play a such an

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important part in absorbing greenhouse gases. The Congo Basin

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forms the world's second largest tropical rainforest, covering an

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area bigger than Spain. Andrew Harding has travelled to the Congo

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where the army has joined the fight In the green heart of Africa over

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one million square miles of rainforest. But will it survive?

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Con lease soldiers guard one corner of the jungle, but there are

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battling against loggers, farmers and a lethal assortment of militia

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groups. We lost 12 rangers this year

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protecting the park. REPORTER: Are you managing to win

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this battle? Yes, we have to. There is no other choice.

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For now, poverty, the lack of roads, and conflict kept huge chunks of

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the forest out of reach. But Africa's economy is booming and

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congo, like the press teen Amazon Jungle Decades ago is at risk.

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We cannot say don't build the road or don't create economic activity,

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what we can do is at least identify the most fragile place, the most

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biodiverse place that we should protect and try to arrange

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sustainable development. Like this, a project to make fuel

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efficient stoves. It could half the number of trees cut for charcoal.

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It is one part of a giant international plan to help protect

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congo's rainforests and our planet. The plan being debated this week

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could see billions of pounds being poured into congo. But it is

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complicated. There is no transparency. There is no control.

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We have lack of governance and it will be like we used to be in

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African country. Nothing will be done as we expect it.

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REPORTER: It will be chaos? Yes, of course.

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For now, the poorly funded army does what it can. Congo needs more

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outside help, but this is a tough place for anyone to operate.

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The idea is simple and compelling, pay congo and its soldiers to

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protect these vast forests and help prevent climate change, but it is

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proving slow, risky and chaotic. The motivation is there. The big

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money maybe coming. The fight to save the world's second greatest

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NASA has announced the discovery of the most Earth-like planet ever

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seen beyond our solar system. Scientists are conducting research

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into the presence of water on the planet known as Kepler 22b. It

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closely resembles Earth in its size and orbit and is 600 light years

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away. The winner of the Turner Prize, one

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of the art world's most prestigious awards, has been announced this

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evening at the Baltic Gallery in Gateshead. The annual exhibition

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and ceremony have been held outside London only once before in the

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Turner's 27 year history. Will Gompertz reveals this year's winner.

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It is that time of year again and the photographer, Mario Testino is

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about to deliver an early Christmas present.

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The winner for the 2011 Turner Prize, Martin Boyce.

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APPLAUSE Well, I didn't expect that.

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LAUGHTER But the Scottish born and based

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artist was soon into his stride and is delighted to have become part of

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the Turner Prize's history. It is something that is significant

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in the cultural popular consciousness. It exists, it

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solidified itself. It is interesting. A it is a great honour

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to be part of it. Martin Boyce didn't win for

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producing this sculpture, but it is part of his winning installation.

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No, he won for pro dution a -- producing a space, everything

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around me is part of the winning artwork from the paper leaves on

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the floor, to the ceiling above. To the painting on the wall, even the

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air vents and the bin are part of a theatrical environment designed to

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change the way you think and the way you feel.

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It is about passing through the space. It is about being in the

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space. It is about the space in between the sculptures as much as

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the sculptures themselves. I am interested in the idea of dusting a

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room with atmosphere. The collector, Charles Saatchi

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wrote being a collector is vulgar. Does the man who presented

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tonight's prize and enjoy the art in the show agree? I think it is

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vulgar in a lot of things, but not in my collecting because I do it

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from the bottom of my heart. I spend all the money I earn and I

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live with it and I enjoy it. It helped me in my profession. Over

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100,000 people have seen the show, more than doubling the number of

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visitors the gallery received during the same period last year.

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