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Royal Marines. The Government is accused of

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fuelling a crisis as the demand for petrol soars. People form long

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queues to buy fuel after ministers advise motorists to top up their

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tanks. It is ridiculous at this point. The

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strike has not been officially declared. There are no dates. Why

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everyone panic now? David Cameron should have kept his trap shut!

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Some petrol owners have run out of fuel. Labour blames the Government.

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They have presided over chaos. The people of Britain to queue over

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petrol stations, there was no strike date set! The Government has

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a responsibility to everyone to take sensible contingency plans.

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The trade union has a responsibility to call off the

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threat of strike action. We are asking if the Government's

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attempt to avoid queues at the pump as caused exactly that.

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Also: Doubt about plan plans to develop a

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new generation of power stations after two companies pull out.

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Concerns of contamination of fluid used to transfer donor organs.

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Violence flares in Spain ahead of an austerity budget that cuts tens

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of billions of spending. And Robert Redford speaks out about

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what is wrong with US politics. It is all about winning. It is all

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about the ego attached to winning, what people will do and say, just

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to win. Coming up in Sportsday:

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Stuart Lancaster sets his sights on the 2015 rugby World Cup after

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being confirmed as the England head Good evening.

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The Government is accused of causing panic at the pumps as

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queues have continued to form at petrol stations after ministers

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advise motorists to stock up on fuel. Sales at the pump soared by

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80%. Some petrol stations ran out all together.

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Labour is blaming the Government, the Government are blaming the

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unions. It is everything that the

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Government was desperate to avoid. Scenes of panic buying and queues

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in petrol stations up and down the country. All of this without even a

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date for a tanker's strike. No certainty that there will even be

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one. In the morning the ministers were urging drivers to fill up when

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they can so they are ready for a possible strike, but in the

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afternoon the Dorset Police were asking the petrol stations to shut

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as the queues were disrupting traffic.

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There are no dates, why is everyone panicking now? David Cameron should

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have kept his trap shut. newspaper headquarters, no news is

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good news, isn't it? For those who need petrol to get to work, a

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strike would mean that is impossible.

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This is forcing panic buying. Petrol retailers said there had

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been a surge in sales with demand for unleaded up 81% on last week.

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There were reports of prices rising and jerry cans flying off the

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shelves. This is really a self-inflicted

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crisis if drivers followed the normal buying patterns, there would

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be no shortage. The advice has been bad advice about topping up. It he

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is led to panic buying. Unite is in contact with the

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Conciliation Service, ACAS, but the leader of the party that Unite

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bankrolls, says it is the Government to get a grip.

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This they have presided over shambles and chaos. The people of

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Britain are queuing at petrol stations, there was no strike date

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set, as the Prime Minister conceded yesterday.

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But the Chancellor said it was the union's threat of a strike causing

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concern about the supplies. The Government has a responsibility

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to all in the country to take sensible contingency plans and the

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trade union has a responsibility to call off the threat of strike

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action. It is the last thing that the British economy needs at a time

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like this. What is so toxic for the Government is the accusation of

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independence, that the mixed messages of jerry cans and filling

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tanks is making the situation worse. If people don't trust the

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Government to handle this, how will they handle other things like the

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economy? On a week when the taxes for the rich were kilt and the

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Tories under fire for having dinners in Downing Street and a row

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on slapping VAT on pasties, it led to accusations that the ministers

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don't understand what the families are going through.

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Many families are not running out of money at the end of the month

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but the start. A Government not going the extra mile to help them

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will suffer. So while the demand for the fuel is

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going up, the Tories' poll ratings are going down. The last thing they

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need weeks away from local elections.

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Now, let's join Nick Robinson outside a service station in

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Suffolk. The Government strategy of urging people to stock up seems to

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have back fired? It has. There are so many stories that affect the

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Westminster village, but not the real world. Here in the real world,

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the garage there is fulling cars and filling. This garage here, has

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now a car, but no petrol to sell. In the last half an hour they

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emptied all of the pumps. The petrol has gone. The curious thing

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is there therefore, that there are the queues, the frustrated

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motorists, the panic buying but there is not actually a strike.

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That is the bizarre nature of what has happened. Even mo so, that this

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was part of a Government plan. Not this precisely, of course, but they

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were so concerned about the repeat of what happened in the year 2000

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when Tony Blair was the Prime Minister, when the hospitals lost

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the fuel that they needed, there was a real fear that the economy

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would grind to a halt, a fear in Tony Blair's mind he would be

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driven out of office by the crisis, they decided to try and induce slow,

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steady controlled panic buying. You will see the problem of that phrase,

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Fiona, it is pretty hard to have a panic that is slow, steady and

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controlled, that is what we are discovering here.

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As we saw in the report, this is the latest in a series of difficult

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moments for the Government this week? Yes, it has been an

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extraordinary week for the Government. The back lash on the

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Budget over the granny tax, the pasty tax. The funding scandal as

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well, now we have what is happening on petrol. Now, governments go

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through moments like this, but the reason this is one that is so

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significant is this: So far the austerity programme has met

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remarkably little resistance in the electorate. Yet, if people come to

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the view that austerity is something that is imposed on them

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by a group of people who are, frankly, out of touch, people who

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talk about garages, and Jerry cans and going to a quarter of a million

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pound dinner, then that would have real political impact. The

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Government's hope, of course, is that will not be the case. They are

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nothing the downside, putting on tax on a pasty for example, to try

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to give people an income tax cut, the joke around Downing Street is

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you would have to eat 900 pasties in order to pay as much tax as the

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Chancellor was actually saving you from the increase in the personal

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allowance. What they are discovering as so many governments

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do, is that people notice the pain, they never thank you for the gain.

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Thank you very much. Plans to develop a new generation

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of nuclear power station in the UK have been dealt a blow. Two major

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companies have pulled out of the developments in Anglesey and

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Gloucester. The companies, RWE and E.ON, says

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that the decision was made on global factors.

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On many levels, the decision to pull out of building a nuclear

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plant near to the existing one on Anglesey has come as a blow. It

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undermines the Government's energy policy, involving nuclear

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facilities and has thrown into doubt the creations of thousands of

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local jobs. This was a shock not just to

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Anglesey, but to the whole of the Welsh economy and the British

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nuclear industry. Two German companies, RWE and E.ON

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have hospitaled -- omented not to go ahead with the project. Also

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another in Gloucester. The decision was due to Germany's move to phase

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out nuclear power after the Japanese earthquake and tsunami.

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The UK has impending power gap. Around a quarter of our generating

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capacity is set to be lost by 2023 as it is too old. Unless lots of

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new power plants are built, the Government warned that power cuts

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could be a regular occurrence towards the end of the decade. With

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the announcement, a �15 billion scheme being put on hold it would

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have provided a third of the new generating power capacity required.

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There is an argument developing. It may be difficult to attract

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investors because of the cost of building nuclear stations and the

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period before a profit is made. Nuclear power is expensive to

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blrbgs and cheap to run. Gas turbines are cheap to build, but

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expensive to run. But another energy company

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investing in UK nuclear power is committed. In the energy mix

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nuclear is an important role to play in the future for the security

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of the supply, for the affordability, for climate change

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and for the jobs and the growth agenda.

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The viability of nuclear power has been questioned by many. They argue

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that the Government should be persuing green technology.

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We have a Government policy dedicated to delivering nuclear

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power that is coming unstuck, but we are losing the opportunity to do

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the clean energy approaches like efficiency and renewables where the

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UK skran a competitive advantage. Ministers said that the nuclear

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policy was on track, but even they conceded that the decision by the

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German companies was a setback. Concerns have emerged over the

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possible contamination of a fluied used to transport donor organs.

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Production of the solution, Viaspan is being stopped while the tests

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are carried out. The Department of Health insists that there is no

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evidence that anyone has suffered adverse effects. The transports are

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to continue as normal. -- transplants.

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Viaspan is a fluied used to preserve organs after they are

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removed from the donor before being transplanted. Hospitals were warned

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that bacterial contamination was found in the solution used to check

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the donors. Tests are under way to see if the

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product has the bacteria. A bug which is a common cause of food

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poisoning and can lead to diarrhoea and vomiting.

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I do not think that any patients who had transplants should be

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worried. If there was infection of the product used during that

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transplant, the patients are on a lot of antibiotics, for at least

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ten days after the operation. Any bacteria would have been killed any

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way by that antibiotic. The batches of the Viaspan involved

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date back to July of last year. It is used to transport several types

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of organ. The most common is liver. There are 700 to 800 transplants a

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year. Pancreas, 250 and up to 40 bowl transplants.

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There are no reports of any patient being sick. Viaspan has not been

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recalled. It can be used for transplants until alternative

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products can be found. Without a transplant the patients

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can die. So every decision has to be taken on clinical need by the

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transplant surgeon with input from the patient, but we can see no

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reason to stop transplanting. Yesterday, MPs criticised the

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Department of Health and medical regulators for not doing more to

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alert patients to another potential contamination. That of PIP breast

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implants. Today's alert is purely a Spanish police have fired rubber

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bullets to disperse a crowd in Barcelona during demonstrations

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backing today's general strike. Tomorrow budget reforms will be

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announced which will axe tens of billions of euros of spending,

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adding to cuts that have already squeezed public services. Spain is

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in its second recession and has the highest level of unemployment in

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the EU. Our Europe editor Gavin The cry, "Join the general strike"

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- Spanish unions are angry over plans making it easier to hire and

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fire workers, angry too with austerity cuts.

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Protesters burnt bins to block roads. In Barcelona, rioters threw

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rocks at banks and started fires. The police responded with rubber

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bullets. Support for the strike was patchy, but hundreds of thousands

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joined the demonstration in Madrid tonight. Spain is currently the

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country causing the most concern in the Eurozone. The EU insists it

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must cut its deficit, but the economy is shrinking. We got an

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economy in recession with unemployment going up from the 24%.

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And at the same time, we have to implement spending cuts.

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Here are the problems - there is still a hangover from the housing

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crash. On average, there are around 140 evictions every day. Protesters

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regularly try and stop them. Teresa Cabererro lost her home this week.

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House prices are is still falling, deepening concerns about the debt

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held by Spanish banks. Then there is unemployment. Eduardo and Maria

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Jose are brother and sister, both out of work. Unemployment is at 24%

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and still rising. In my last interview, there were about 40 or

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50 candidates trying to get the job. A further problem is the debt of

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the regions. Valencia has the highest debt, a region struggling

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with the legacy of having backed prestigious projects. Valencia

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splashed out on a dazzling city of arts and sciences. The only problem

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- debt, still around 600 million euros. This airport glimmers in the

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sun. The cost, 150 million euros of public money, but there was know

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demand, and no plane has ever landed here. Those who support the

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Government say there is no alternative to austerity. The risk

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is not taking the decision in favour of the austerity because

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austerity - for me, austerity is to put order at home. The crowds on

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the streets this evening know there will be a Budget tomorrow which the

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government says will be very, very austere. The fear is that this

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country, already in recession, is being locked into a downward spiral.

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Coming up on tonight's programme: The murder of two British friends

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in Florida last year. In court, the teenager found guilty of shooting

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them hears this emotional testimony from a friend of the victims.

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night you go to sleep. Every morning you wake up. I want you to

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think of my friend who you murdered. Their images will be impresented on

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your con-- imprinted on your conscience up until your very last

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breath in life. The bodies of three British

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servicemen killed in Afghanistan have been flown back home. Two of

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them were shot dead by an Afghan soldier on Monday. The Defence

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Secretary Philip Hammond, who's in the capital Kabul, has insisted

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that the strategy of British forces serving alongside and training

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Afghan soldiers is still working. Our defence correspondent, Jonathan

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Beale reports from Afghanistan. The Defence Secretary flew into

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Helmand province to the very same base where the two British

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servicemen have been killed by an Afghan soldier earlier this week.

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Lashkar Gah, still in mourning. Despite that tragedy, there has

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been no change in strategy. Mr Hammond witnessed soldiers from

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both nations on a joint patrol. You've got to put it in a context.

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There are thousands and thousands of contacts between A and and A and

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British troops every day. Once in a blue moon, something tragic like

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this happens. We can't let that derail the mission. But British and

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Afghan troops are continuing to work side by side even if,

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inevitably, they are more wary, but this is the only strategy that'll

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eventually allow British troops to leave. Already this year across the

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country 15 international troops have been killed by men wearing

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either police or Afghan Army uniform. Overall, there have been

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more than 70 so-called green-on- blue killings since the war began,

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so do they trust the men they're training? I trust the guys I work

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with 100% definitely. It is bad, but there is nothing you can do

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about it. It's the job we have to do, and we have to get on with it,

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so... The Defence Secretary may have confidence in the strategy,

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but this is a security force being built from scratch. With thousands

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of Afghan troops and police being trained every month and a fledgling

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government working with limited data to check their backgrounds.

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Such checks did not save the lives of the soldiers whose bodies were

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repatriated today. Sergeant Luke Taylor of the Royal Marines was 33

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and had just become a father, and 25-year-old Lance Corporal Michael

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Foley of the Adjutant General's Corps had three children. Captain

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Rupert Bowers was killed by a roadside bomb. The pain of the loss

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shared in Afghanistan. Today the Defence Secretary signed

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an agreement to set up a British- run military academy run in

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Afghanistan that'll guarantee the UK's long-term commitment to the

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country, but there can be no assurances that there won't be

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other rogue Afghan soldiers and police.

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APPLAUSE Travellers at Stansted Airport

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faced disruption after baggage handlers diverted to a strike next

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week over a row over pay. It will begin on April 6 and continue on

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Easter Saturday and Easter Monday. A friend of the two British

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tourists shot on holiday last year in Florida have come face to face

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with their killer. Shawn Tyson was sentenced to life without parole

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for murdering James Kouzaris and James Cooper. Their friends read

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out emotional impact statements as Steve Kingston reports from

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Sarasota. TRANSLATION: I sentence you to life

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in prison. 17 years old, and Shawn Tyson will spend the rest of his

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life behind bars. During sentencing he was shown a tribute to his

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British victims, James Kouzaris, a keen rugby player who worked in

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local Government, and James Cooper, a tennis coach, whose mother sent a

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message which was read out by prosecutors. When he was a child I

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said to him every night, "If you carry on the way you have started,

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you'll be the greatest man who ever lived." He proved me right.

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friend of the victims spoke directly to the convicted murderer.

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A Every night you go to sleep, every morning you wake up, I want

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you to think of my friend who you murdered. Their images will be

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imprinted on your conscience until your very last breath. On the night

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of their deaths, the two friends had been out drinking. Security

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cameras in a bar showed them chatting to other customers. At

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closing time they set out on foot ending up 20 blocks away at this

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low-income housing project. At 3.00am, residents heard gunfire.

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We just rode through the old projects. We seen a white dude

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laying there, blood everywhere. He's just laid out. He's just

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laying on the ground. I think he's dead now. The bodies of the two

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Britons were found lying on either side of this street. James Kouzaris

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had been shot twice, James Cooper, four times. Both men were still

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carrying their wallets and their mobile phones, but the police

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believe this had at least started out as an attempted robbery. That's

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because the victims' trousers were pulled down, apparently to stop

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them running away. Witnesses testified Shawn Tyson boasted about

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the killings. He had been in custody after an earlier arrest.

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Hours before the shootings, he was freed by a judge. Outside the court,

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the victim's friends said that was a fatal mistake. We'd like to

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stress our horror which led to the premature release of Shawn Tyson.

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Indeed, the events of April 16 wouldn't come to fruition without

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his wrongful release. So in this most inviting of place, justice is

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tinged with recrimination over the end of two young lives.

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Stuart Lancaster has been appointed as the head coach of England's

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Rugby Union team following his successful spell as interim manager

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during the Six Nations campaign. He said he was honoured to be taking

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on the role full time - his first task will be to prepare England for

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a tough summer tour to South Africa. He's a Hollywood superstar, an

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outspoken critic of US politics and the founder of the respected

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Sundance film Festival. Robert Redford is bringing his festival to

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London at the end of April to showcase the best of American

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independent film. Our arts editor Will Gompertz went to New York for

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an exclusive interview with a man not afraid to speak his mind about

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his country. America, unmistakable, and in the

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eyes of millions, beautiful. You could say the same about him -

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Robert Redford, movie star, political activist and the man

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behind the Sundance Film Festival, which he's bringing to London next

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month. I asked him why when I met him in New York. Independent film

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reflects the value of change, and - including the consequences, and I

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think it's just a different view of our country that I'm very proud of

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because it is a legitimate view, but it's different from the one

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that's being sold on air or with a great deal of money to market. It's

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a little bit askew of that, but it's real. The festival is based

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around his home in Utah, a place that gives him space to think -

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about the American way. It's a country determined on winning, as

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you can see in our current political climate. It's all about

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winning, and it's all about the ego attached to winning and what people

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will do and say just to win! All a man can say is, here I am. In 1972

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Robert Redford starred in The Candidate playing a once idealistic

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man who lets his standards slip in the pursuit of power, a fiction he

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thinks that's now become fact in American political life.

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I think our Congress is not the best and the brightest. I think

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that it's obvious to the world that we're a polarised nation now

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politically. It's very depressing to me to see the quality of

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discussion, the quality of intellectual exchange so damaged by

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the behaviour of a lot of the people that are running for office.

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It's embarrassing. Why didn't you become a politician? You see Reagan

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did. Are you kidding? That would be - first of all, it's too narrow.

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You have to behave - you can't be your total natural self, as you can

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see on television. Is there any one of these people that you feel is

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really, really natural - unless they're so crazy, they're natural?

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Hi, I'm Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. Redford revisited

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the dark side of American politics in All the President's Men. He had

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a high regard for journalism when it was made, less so now.

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Well, I didn't know it at the time, but I just happened to tie into a

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moment in history that was a high point. I think I came in when

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journalism had reached an apex of morality and professionalism and so

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forth, and I was very lucky. I think it's sad to say it's pretty

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obvious that it's declined since then. Redford found fame starring

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alongside Paul Newman in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

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next thing I say let's go someplace like bowl I'veia, let's go. Today

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the Sundance Kid is an old man. I asked him how he thinks life has

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changed over the years. I guess there is an obsession with youth.

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Now you have all of these methods of reconstructing yourselves to

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look younger and younger. I don't buy that. I like to see an older

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woman who has carried her age and her experience with her. I find

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that very attractive. Robert Redford is an actor who chose to

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