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Tonight: Britain signs a new treaty with Jordan - the latest step in

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the battle to deport Abu Qatada. The radical cleric can still launch

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new appeals but the Home Secretary says the Government is doing all it

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can to remove him. After signing the new agreement, ministers

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insisted it would guarantee Qatada a fair trial in his native Jordan.

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It is absurd for the deportation of a suspected foreign terrorist to

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take so many years and cost the taxpayer so much money. And the

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Home Secretary suggested that to get its way the UK might even

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withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights. Also

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tonight: In Bangladesh, at least 80 people have died and many more

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trapped after an 8-storey building collapsed. The Co-Op pulls out of a

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deal to buy more than 60O0 Lloyds branches - a blow to ministers who

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wanted more high street competition. Some surgical cosmetic procedures

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are a crisis waiting to happen say experts, as tighter rules are

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promised. And, a 10-match ban for Luis Suarez - Liverpool say they're

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shocked and disappointed by the punishment.

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Coming up: We will have all tonight's Champions League action,

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Good evening. Britain has signed a new treaty with Jordan which

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ministers hope will allow the extradition of the terror suspect

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Abu Qatada. But the Home Secretary, Theresa May, told MPs that the

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legal process could still take many months. The treaty is meant to

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satisfy concerns that Abu Qatada would not receive a fair trial in

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Jordan. Our home affairs correspondent Tom Symonds has the

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details. He's been arrested, released, arrested again, but not

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deported. Because Abu Qatada's lawyers have persuaded a succession

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of courts that in his native Jordan he would face charges based on

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evidence obtained through torture. This official picture marks the

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moment the Home Secretary signed a treaty she hopes will break the

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deadlock, by guaranteeing him and others a fair trial in Jordan based

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on legitimate evidence. I believe these guarantees will provide the

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courts with the assurance that Abu Qatada will not face evidence that

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might have been obtained by torture in a retrial in Jordan. In the past,

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the Home Secretary has overstated evidence, overstated her legal

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position and overstated her legal strategy which has not worked. None

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of us want that to happen again. are they celebrating here at the

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Home Office? Well, not yet. Firstly, this treaty has to be put in front

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of Britain's parliament and ratified by Jordan's. Then, the

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legal battle will just start all over again. This time, though,

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officials here say the rules have changed, in their favour. Why? Well,

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the treaty specifically bans the use of evidence obtained through

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torture. Ministers believe what's changed is that an assurance from

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Jordan it wouldn't be used has now become law. However, Abu Qatada can

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still appeal through the courts against his new deportation order,

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arguing that the treaty doesn't guarantee his human rights. The

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legal wrangling could go on for months. Ultimately, our courts have

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to make an assessment of how robust and reliable the Jordanian

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prosecutor, the Jordanian court system is, and whether this kind of

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treaty fundamentally changes the game or not. But what if they

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decide it doesn't? What if they decide again that Abu Qatada can

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only be protected under the European Convention on Human Rights

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by remaining on British streets? It will, Theresa May, admitted put a

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strain on our relationship with the convention. It's my clear view that

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we need to fix that relationship and that we should have all options,

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including leaving the convention altogether, on the table. The Prime

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Minister is looking at all options and that is only sensible to do.

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But, she's in a coalition Government and this was the

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reaction from the Liberal Democrats. You can't take a convention on a

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pick and mix basis. If you pull out for one reason, the next time

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there's a case which you think strains your commitment to the

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convention, are you going to walk away again? Downing Street stresses

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it's only an option, also being considered streamlining the appeals

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process, and deporting Abu Qatada first, and letting him appeal later.

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And our political editor Nick Robinson joins me now from the Home

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Office. How convinced are Ministers that this deal they've signed will

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eventually at some stage lead to deportation? Well, that's what

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they're told, they're told it by Home Office lawyers, but they're

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not convinced. This has been going on for a decade. A year ago, of

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course, we know that the Home Secretary was told that - and said

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it in public, that Abu Qatada could be on a plane within days. It's

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precisely why you are now seeing Conservative Ministers consider

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their options if this latest strategy simply does not work. What

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we were told they were considering was the temporary suspension of

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Britain's membership of the European Convention on Human Rights,

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that was reported in a number of newspapers this morning. I am told

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that in a meeting the Prime Minister chaired yesterday with

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senior Ministers this was simply not even mentioned. There's a good

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reason for that, the Liberal Democrats would simply say no. So

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too would some Tory Ministers, the attorney General he would say so,

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Ken Clarke, former Justice Secretary, he would say no. Another

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reason, which is the legal advice suggests that even if Britain could

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politically and legally leave, it would not maybe do the job as far

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as Abu Qatada's concerned. What is clear, though, is that David

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Cameron's told his Ministers he is up for a a fight on this, up for an

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electoral fight, he may even be willing to say to the electorate, I

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am willing to get out of the European Convention on Human Rights,

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are my coalition partners in the Liberal Democrats? This is going to

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carry on being the longest, most expensive and probably least

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popular show in London. Thank you.

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At least 80 people were killed and hundreds injured when an 8-storey

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building collapsed on the outskirts of the Bangladeshi capital, Dhaka.

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The building contained several shops and a factory that supplies

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clothes to Primark in the UK. As Andrew North reports, it's the

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latest in a series of incidents in Bangladesh, raising questions about

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safety standards in the country's thriving clothing business.

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It looked like the aftermath of a massive earthquake. The 8-storey

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building collapsing in an instant. As many as 2000 people were inside

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at the time. Local volunteers joined in the

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desperate hunt for survivors. wife was working there and I came

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here as soon as I could. I have looked everywhere, but I can't find

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any trace of her. Scores of people were buried in what's become a

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coffin of concrete and metal. My husband is inside there, this

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woman cries, not knowing where to look. The building housed several

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clothing factories, including one supplying the UK's Primark. Cloth

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had become rescue chutes. In a statement, Primark said it was

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shocked and deeply saddened by what had happened. Workers had

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complained the building was unsafe after cracks appeared, but they say

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local managers ordered them back in an hour before the collapse.

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Disaster has struck Bangladeshi's clothing industry before. More than

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100 workers died when fire swept through this factory last year.

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Managers accused of ignoring safety to feed the West's demand for cut-

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price clothes. We went to the ruined factory last week,

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investigating the industry's record. There's a security security guard.

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No one's allowed inside. It's now a crime scene. But no one's been

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arrested. Keeping wages low, Bangladesh has become a mass tailor

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to the world. A British retailers are among the biggest buyers from

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these factories. But in the drive to keep costs down,

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critics say the price of cheap clothes has become too high. Rescue

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efforts have continued into the night. I am alive, she tells her

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family. This disaster is already the worst industrial accident in

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Bangladesh's history and the casualties are still rising.

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Lloyds Banking Group says it's disappointed that the Co-operative

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Bank has cancelled a deal to buy more than 600 branches. The Co-op

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blamed the latest outlook for economic growth and tougher banking

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regulation. The branches will now be offered for sale on the stock

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market, under the TSB brand. It's a setback for ministers who want to

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introduce more competition into high street banking, as our

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business editor Robert Peston reports.

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Lloyds bank, Britain's largest bank serving individuals and smaller

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businesses was supposed to be selling off hundreds of branches to

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be renamed TSB to the Co-op but the Co-op today said it didn't want

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those branches. Why? Tripling our size in this economic climate would

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have been the wrong thing to do. Unfortunately, and it is

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unfortunate, we can't take this opportunity. But two years ago, as

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I said, you know, the world looked a different place. It was the

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European Commission which forced throeudz sell -- Lloyds to sell the

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branches which were supposed to be merged with the Co-op's 340

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branches. And the Co-op was also supposed to be gaining �25 billion

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of deposits or savings. The Government had been a supporter of

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the deal because it wants to see smaller banks like the Co-op taking

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on the big boys. The news made it to the Business Secretary, Vince

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Cable, in Brazil. It's very disappointing. I was really hoping

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this would happen because we do need more competition and we need

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more diversity in business lending and having the Co-op, a mutual, a

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new player in the small business lending would have been a step

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forward. It's the Co-op's reasoning for pulling out of the takeover of

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Lloyds branches that will alarm many, including the Government.

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Because the Co-op is blaming, in part, the burden of regulation,

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which means that there's a-- tension between the Government's

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aim of keeping banks safe through regulation, and its desire to

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create increased competition by the creation of big new challenger

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banks. The point of the competition was to force banks to offer us

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better deals, so are customers disappointed? You don't know where

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it's all going to end. Who's going to come out the better out of the

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deals, I don't think it will be the public. A lot of this is big

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business and we see the aftereffects. We will wait and see.

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Lloyds will still rename more than 600 branches as TSB and hive them

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off as new stock market company. smaller than it would have been as

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part of the Co-op and to that extent, much less frightening to

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The coalition government has announced plans to extend the

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funding for lending programme for banks, which involves providing

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credit to smaller companies. Tougher rules on cosmetic

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procedures in England are being promised by the Government, after

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an independent review criticised the lack of regulation. Experts

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insists that treatments known as dermal fillers should be available

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only on prescription. They have described them as a crisis waiting

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to happen. Fergus Walsh explains. This is how more and more people

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are trying to hold back the years. Karen Rowing, a 45-year-old from

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Essex, has spent �600 to have no way, to pump up the skin and to

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smooth out wrinkles. Everybody where I live want to look good,

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even people as young as 21 and 22 are having treatment done.

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Personally, I tell them to wait until you get to my age..

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injections were done by a doctor who explained the possible side-

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effects. But the expert review team were shocked by the lack of

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controls elsewhere. Dermal fillers are a disaster waiting to happen.

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The level of regulation is equivalent to that of a toothbrush

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or a ballpoint pen. Secondly, almost more worryingly, dermal

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fillers can be injected by anybody, in to anybody. This lady had dermal

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fillers several times before this happened... She was left in agony

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when the treatment went wrong. batch that was injected into me

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which eventually caused me 3.5 years of misery, pain and

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disfigurement, was contaminated. You could be playing Russian

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roulette with your looks and even your life. The review was set up

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after the PIP implant scandal, which affected nearly 50,000 women

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in Britain. But surgery accounts for just one in 10 cosmetic

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procedures. Most patients opt for treatment they can having their

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lunch hour. This industry is undergoing explosive growth,

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increasing in value fivefold in just a decade. By 2015, it is

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forecast to be worth �3.6 billion a year. The review team says all

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those performing cosmetic procedures must be registered and

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trained. It wants an insurance scheme to protect patients and a

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tracking system of implants so that faulty products can be traced. Some

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changes will require legislation, but the Government says it will do

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whatever is needed to protect Violent crime is becoming less

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frequent, as the United Kingdom becomes a significantly more

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peaceful country, according to new research. Since 2003, the murder

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rate has halved, and violent crime has fallen by 21%. Crime involving

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weapons is down by 34%. The least peaceful place in the UK,

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apparently, is Lewisham in south- east London. The most peaceful area

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is Broadland in Norfolk. The UK is becoming substantially and

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significantly more peaceful. So says new, international research

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which identifies this as the most peaceful spot of all, parts of the

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Norfolk Broads, where the most aggressive act on display this week

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was a duck beating a fish. If you are looking for a location to set

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your TV detective series, choosing Broadland might not be wise. With

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six murders in the past decade and only eight violent crimes in the

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whole of last year, the local constable has few mysteries to

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investigate. When was the last time you had a really serious crime to

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solve? On a day-to-day basis, we are the front line of policing.

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Broadland, when was the last time you had a crime to solve, violent

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crime? We do have pubs, people drink alcohol in them...!

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contrast, the least peaceful place in the UK is said to be Lewisham in

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south London, an area blighted by gang violence. Although Lewisham is

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apparently slightly less peaceful than it was a few years ago, that

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is not the story across the capital. In a London is more peaceful, and

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the city as a whole has seen some of the biggest falls in murder and

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weapons crime. The Mayor of London welcomes the reduction in violence

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in the capital. The murder rate is down to levels we have not seen

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since the 1960s. The comparison was with cities such as New York are

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extremely encouraging. Happy, smiley people everywhere. How did

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that Sonko? You are not going to sing, are you? The decline in

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violence is a phenomenon which is repeated across the developed world,

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in countries with very difficult approaches -- different approaches

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to criminal justice. The facts speak for themselves, particularly

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when you double check the facts. So, the UK is getting a lot more

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peaceful. There are many theories as to why. Some think it could be

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down to intelligence led policing. Others think the Internet has a

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civilising effect. Whatever the cause, we appear to be coming -- we

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appear to be becoming a society more at peace with itself. The

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Foreign Secretary, William Hague, has warned that a substantial

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number of British citizens are fighting alongside militant Islamic

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groups in Syria, and could pose a terrorist threat to the UK when

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they return. But to the Syrian government, the presence of British

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fighters is seen as further proof of an alleged alliance between Al-

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Qaeda and the West. Jeremy Bowen reports from Damascus. Throughout

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two bloody years, the Syrian regime has insisted it is facing jihadist

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fighters directed by foreigners. So, it is not surprising that President

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Assad has seized on the recent statement by the leader of the most

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effective opposition fighting group, declaring allegiance to Al-Qaeda.

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When I met the deputy Foreign Minister, he repeated the claim

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that Britain, France and the United States have an alliance with Al-

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Qaeda against Syria. Their hatred and their conviction that such a

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government which has independent policies should not rule Syria has

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led them to follow ways which are against the charter of the United

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Nations, which offered direct support to armed elements and which

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directly or indirectly are linked to Al-Qaeda. This was very clear to

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us from the first day. The other day, President Assad was on the TV

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talking about the prominence of Al- Qaeda supporters in the opposition

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movement - is it not the case, though, that the harsh crackdown of

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the Syrian government has created the conditions for jihadist to

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flourish in? These jihadist software there inside Syria. We

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were fighting against them. They co-operated together in Syria, in

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Lebanon, in Jordan and in Turkey. If you get to a situation where

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Britain, France and the United States are providing perhaps

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military supplies or training, which is a possibility, it might

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happen, surely, you do not have a chance of keeping going?

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President Assad, this is not an issue. For us, it is not to

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surrender our sovereignty and independence. We shall defend our

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sovereignty and independence to the last drop. Syrians are dying in

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horrifying numbers. The opposition is more organised, but President

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Assad still has men prepared to give their lives for his vision of

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Syria, as well as reliable allies in Iran and Russia. This war has a

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Labour has accused the general secretary of the Unite union, Len

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McCluskey, of being disloyal to the party. Mr McCluskey said in an

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interview that the Labour leader, Ed Miliband, would be cast into the

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dustbin of history if he listened to those shadow ministers with

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The leader of the UK Independence Party, Nigel Farage, is predicting

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a strong performance in next week's local elections in England. UKIP is

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fielding more than 1,700 candidates. It is hoping to transform its poll

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ratings in to real votes. Nigel Farage is campaigning for what he

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calls a revolution in British politics, and he is doing it

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largely down the pub. This is where we discuss the world... He says

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every pub is a parliament, and he is clearly a member. He knows that

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many voters are unhappy with the larger parties, and he is

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travelling the country, trying to persuade them to back UKIP as never

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before. He has got more than 1,000 more candidates than last time, and

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here's hoping they can turn strong polling figures in to real votes.

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do not yet know whether we will make a big dent, or whether it will

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be an explosion. But I am confident that on 3rd May, people will be

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very surprised at how well we have done. The party claims that they

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are taking votes not just from the Conservatives but from Labour and

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the Lib Dems as well. That could mean many councils changing hands.

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These elections matter because they choose councillors who deliver

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important services. But also, they will show how voters are feeling in

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important battlegrounds for the next general election. So, as the

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results come in, the key question will be whether, in their panic,

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MPs think their futures are in doubt. One other party in the mix

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is the Greens, with a new leader, and more than 900 candidates,

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promising to protect the green belt but also to a prose privatised

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services and spend more on buses. - - to oppose. We are standing in 94%

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of councils were there are elections. We are going to get on

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to new councils, and show people that Green Party councillors really

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make a difference. But to win voters, you need to excite, and the

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traffic jam at this public meeting in Sussex this week showed that

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this was something UKIP was doing. Few politicians can fill a hall

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like this one on a warm evening in spring, but this man can. Many

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people here said they would vote for him. The Liverpool player Luis

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Suarez has been banned for 10 matches by the Football Association

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for biting an opponent during a match last Sunday. He had admitted

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a charge of violent conduct. The club said it was shocked and

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disappointed by the severity of the punishment, which means he will

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miss the first six games of next season. Luis Suarez arrived for

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training this morning knowing he could be confined to the practice

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ground for some time. Three days after he sent his jaws in to

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Branislav Ivanovic, it was the turn of the FA to show their teeth.

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Suarez has wanted -- had wanted a three-match ban, but instead, he

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got 10. His reputation goes before him, that's the thing with swallows.

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10 games is too much. I think he deserves it myself. If you bite

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somebody, it is stupid. In a brief statement, Liverpool said they were

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shocked and disappointed at the severity of the punishment. They

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emphasised that Luis Suarez had issued an unreserved apology, but

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he will now be unable to play until the autumn. Suarez has done this

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before, earning him a seven-match ban while he was playing for Ajax.

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This latest incident has received an even sterner punishment, and

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some feel it is wrong. 10 games is more than a quarter of the season.

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I have seen some horrendous challenges go for far less. I just

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think the inconsistency of the whole thing, the punishments by the

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