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Out of the single market and striking its own unique trade deal -

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Michael Gove sets out a vision for the UK out of the EU.

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He says we could still do business with Europe but not have to abide

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There is a free trade zone stretching from Iceland to Turkey,

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that all European nations have access to, regardless

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of whether they are in or out of the euro or the EU.

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But those fighting for the UK to remain in the EU have

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attacked Mr Gove's claims as unfounded and untenable.

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The father jailed for assaulting his baby daughter.

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His conviction was quashed, now six years later he's

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As the death toll in Ecuador's earthquake nears 500,

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we report from the epicentre of the earthquake.

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With just over two weeks to election day, we're in the chamber

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of the Scottish Parliament - fast becoming one of

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the most powerful devolved bodies in the world -

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and we'll have the latest on the campaign.

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enjoying life as the Queen prepares to celebrate an important birthday.

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Coming up in Sportsday at 10.30pm on BBC News:

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Action from St James' Park as Newcastle United

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look to pull clear of the Premier League relegation zone.

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The campaign to take the UK out of the EU has gone the furthest yet

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in outlining what so-called Brexit would look like.

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Michael Gove said the Vote Leave group would take the UK out

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of the single market - which allows the free

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movement of goods, services and people across borders

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Instead the UK would strike its own unique deal,

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be part of a free trade zone, doing business with the EU but not

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Those arguing to remain in the EU claim Mr Gove is labouring under

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a serious misunderstanding about the way the European Union works.

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Our political editor, Laura Kuenssberg, has more.

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Filling in the blanks, for weeks campaigners who want to leave the EU

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have been attacked for dodging how life would look outside. I see.

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Mocked this morning by Remainors as they arrived to hear more at last

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about the plan. The man with the slightly more detailed plan and

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ridiculed for his colleagues' warnings, Cabinet Minister, Michael

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Gove. The idea if Britain voted to leave the European Union, we would

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instantly become some sort of hermit kingdom, a North Atlantic North

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Korea, only without that country's fund of international goodwill. It

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is a fantasy, a phantom, a great, preposterous Peter Mandelson conceit

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that imagines the people of this country arm your children, capable

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of being frightened into obedience by conjuring up new bogeymen every

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night. You could banish them by being as clear as you can be about

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what the economy would look like if we leave. In the simplest of terms,

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can you describe what our trading relationships would look like? We

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would be part of a free trade zone that extends from Iceland to the

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Russian border, that includes all the nations of the European land

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mass, by being part of that free trade zone we would have full access

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to the European market, but we would be freed from EU regulation. They

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love those ambitions here, outside the single market, but trading

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freely without EU migration. The message coming out of Vote

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Leave's anonymous campaign head quarters is a goal of contrasting

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hope versus fear. They are being a bit more explicit about how the

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economy might look if we leave the EU, but there is precious little

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detail over how it would actually work, and over there they say it

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won't wash. The In campaign scoffed at the idea, we trade in a similar

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fashion to a country like Albania. And are firm, we would be lonelier

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and poorer outside the EU. The Leave campaign have said this means being

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outside the single market. That means a risk of tariffs, it means

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that as services would not be included, and that is a real threat

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to jobs, to investment and to trade. Whatever Michael said, he's right.

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They agree, and a powerful minority of Ministers at Cabinet believe the

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obstacles of exit can be hurdled over. There is only a lot of

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scaremongering going on. If it is desirable, is it feasible for us to

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be outside but get the benefits of in? It is complicated at best. But

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however we trade, in what was described as the definitive speech,

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Mr Gove made the boldest claim yet. Voting to leave would be a

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galvanising, empowering moment of patriotic renewal. But for Europe,

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Britain voting to leave would be the beginning of something potentially

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even more exciting. The democratic liberation of a whole continent.

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Outers crossing their fingers, if you vote to leave the whole EU might

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crumble. Their rivals hope luck and logic will end up on their side.

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Laura Kuenssberg, BBC News, Westminster.

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So how does the single market work and what difference would it make

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if the UK wasn't in it, as Michael Gove suggests?

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And what about the free trade zones that he wants the UK to be part of?

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Mr Gove's statement today has raised lot of questions.

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Here's our business editor, Simon Jack.

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In 1992, at Maastricht, the modern European Union was born and it's

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grown into the single market we know today.

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A Union free of internal border, UK citizens can live, work, trade

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anywhere if the UK accepts free movement the other way and concedes

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certain powers to Brussels. But Vote Leave say that arrangement means no

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control of your borders and submitting to Europe's stifling

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bureaucracy and Michael Gove wants out, but to where and to what?

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Michael Gove today said the UK would join an existing free trade zone,

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which stretches from Iceland to Turkey, but what does he mean? Well,

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the EU has dozens of free trade deals with neighbours both large and

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small. It includes countries to the East, some of which are candidates

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to join the European Union, but perhaps the most relevant to Michael

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Gove's speech today is something called the European Free Trade

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Association, it has four members - Iceland, Norway, Switzerland and

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Liechtenstein. Of these, three are in the European Economic Area, an EU

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light where almost EU rules apply. You have access to the single market

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but you pay to be a member and accept the free movement of people.

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That leaves Switzerland. That also pays into the budget. It currently

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accepts the free movement of people and, crucially, has restrictions on

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selling financial services into the rest of the European Union.

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The City of London is concerned that a Swiss-style deal would require

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stationing thousands of employees inside the EU and mean London would

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lose its advantage as a one-stop-shop for European finance.

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The UK financial services industry is enormous in terms of its

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proportion of GDP compared to European competitors. There is

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plenty of opportunities for other EU institutions to come in on Brexit

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and pick off parts of that business, lucrative business, which is related

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to the EU and which the UK institutions would find more

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difficult to execute. The UK is the biggest market for EU exports and

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Vote Leave said it would be self-defeating for the EU to impose

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trade barriers. Michael Gove thinks a sweetheart deal is achievable for

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the world's fifth largest economy. Others may think the UK is trying to

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have its cake and eat it. Simon Jack, BBC News.

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Let's speak to our political editor, Laura Kuenssberg,

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Has this statement by Michael Gove, has it changed the terms of the

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debate? It's a big day. Until now the outers have been backwards about

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coming forwards with that question, the answer to the question so many

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voters have. If we leave the EU, how would it affect how we all make a

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living? They have given us a skeleton but in terms of the

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practicalities, we haven't quite yet seen the flesh. There is an obvious

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appeal in saying yes, we could have the goodies without some of the

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nasties that come with the EU. In terms of those other questions,

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there are still blanks that are yet to be filled in. His vision has been

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roundly dismissed by the Remain campaign, described as utopian

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rubbish. The Bank of England Governor has given another warning

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about the risks of leaving. But for the Out campaign it was important

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today that they started to answer some of their critics and

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interesting, too, Michael Gove suggested something more radical,

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that we vote to leave, that could begin a process that unravelled the

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whole European Union. A reminder of that big political picture that

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could be at stake as we decide how to make up our minds. Money talks

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and for undecided voters, there are still questions on the economy that

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Vote Leave are yet to answer. Laura at Westminster, thank you.

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And the BBC's Reality Check team has more of the facts on the

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A father who was convicted of assaulting his six-week-old

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daughter, but whose conviction was then quashed, is now accused

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Ellie Butler died from a "catastrophic" head injury

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allegedly inflicted by her father Ben at their home

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He and Ellie's mother are accused of staging an elaborate cover up

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Alison Holt reports from the Old Bailey.

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On the upper level of these South London maisonettes,

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the Butler home was, according to the prosecution,

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The Old Bailey jury was told life was dominated by Ben Butler's anger,

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It is claimed in October 2013 he murdered his six-year-old

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daughter, Ellie, in a violent outburst.

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The jury also heard that in 2007 Butler was found guilty of harming

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She was taken into care, but on appeal, the conviction

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Inside Court 8 at the Old Bailey today, the prosecution painted

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a picture of life with Ben Butler and Ellie's mother, Jennie Gray.

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She denies child cruelty but has admitted perverting

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Their texts in the months before their daughter's

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In one Ben Butler says, "I can't cope anymore.

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One more mistake, I'm going to lose it."

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He was frequently abusive to Jennie Gray.

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In another he said, "You're dead when I come home.

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She would try to calm him saying, "I really do want you more

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But the court was told how Internet searches gave an insight

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"I'm with a bully man who beats me and tells me I'm ugly and fat

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Prosecuting, Edward Brown QC described how on the day that Ellie

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died, Butler made four quick calls to Jennie Gray at her work

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The court was told that within minutes of Jennie Gray

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getting the phone calls from Ben Butler, she was here

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on Ludgate Hill just, round the corner from her work,

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The prosecution say that was part of a frantic reaction

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It is claimed at home the two staged things to look like Ellie

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had had an accident, then made a desperate 999 call.

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The jury was told Ellie had died two hours earlier.

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Ben Butler denies murder and the case continues.

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At least 28 people have been killed in a Taliban suicide bomb and gun

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assault on a government security building in the Afghan

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More than 300 people were wounded in the attack

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A car bomb was detonated near a security headquarters,

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and there was gun battle with police.

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The police said most of those killed were civilians.

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The General Medical Council has urged junior doctors in England

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to think hard about plans to take part in next week's first ever

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strike involving A, intensive care and maternity units.

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Junior doctors have taken part in a series of strikes

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as part of a bitter dispute with the Government over

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The growth of dementia in the UK may not be

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Research, published in the journal Nature, suggests new cases

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of dementia are up to a fifth lower than might have been

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The improvement in male health is thought partly to be

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responsible for the decline in the incidence of new cases.

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In just over two weeks' time voters in Scotland will go

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to the polls to elect a new parliament at Holyrood.

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All 129 seats in the Scottish Parliament are up for grabs

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and while the Scottish Nationalist are widely expected to win

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another majority, the race is on between Labour

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and the Conservatives for second place.

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Huw Edwards is live inside Holyrood, Huw.

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access to the Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.

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It's fast becoming one of the most powerful devolved bodies

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anywhere in the world and it's going to get even more

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powerful in the years ahead, with more control over taxation

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That's the all-important context to this year's elections

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which take place in just over two weeks' time.

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Scottish voters will be electing members

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to sit in this Chamber - a Chamber dominated

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by the Scottish National Party for much of the past decade.

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Our Scotland editor, Sarah Smith, reports now on one

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of the main talking points of the campaign so far.

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The famous Forth Bridges - road and rail - are being joined

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Here, Scots can see what their taxes are being spent on.

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Before this bridge is finished, Scottish voters have a choice to

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Whoever wins this election will, for the first time, have the power

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to set income tax rates and that's what's dominating the debate.

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The Scottish Labour leader is making a bold pitch,

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Proposing to put a penny on the basic rate and higher rates

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of tax, while putting the top rate up to 50p.

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It is a very clear and simple message that we have

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for the Scottish electorate, if you want to stop the cuts

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and end austerity, invest in your children's future,

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you have to use the powers of the parliament to make different

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The SNP leader is playing a different game.

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Last year she too was arguing for a 50p top rate, now

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she is proposing far more modest changes.

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Saying only that she would not pass on the tax cut for higher earners

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The real difference between the SNP's tax proposals

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in this election and Labour's tax proposals, it is not at the top end,

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but how we are propsing to treat people on low and average incomes.

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Labour wants to increase tax on everybody, even if they earn

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We want to protect those on lower incomes -

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It is a curious feature of this election that the SNP,

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the party who have always argued for more powers for

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the Scottish Parliament, are taking a remarkably cautious

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approach to using the powers over taxation the parliament

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What is quite clear now with the SNP is despite the rhetoric -

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the wild rhetoric - condemning everybody else

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from the left, they are not prepared to do anything - far too cautious

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and timid and not ambitious for Scotland.

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The Lib Dems, like Labour, propose a penny on the basic

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and higher rates of tax, with a top rate of 46p.

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The Greens want to go further, with a 60p top rate, and a tax cut

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We do think it is absurd that very, very high earners, people

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on astronomical incomes, way beyond what most

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people will ever earn, are being undertaxed.

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We see an incredible gulf between rich and poor.

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The Tories had hoped to squeeze some tax cuts into their platform,

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but have decided Scotland can't afford that right now.

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They are enjoying being the only major party that does not

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We don't believe that you should have to pay more tax in Scotland

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We think it is bad for individuals, the money in their pocket,

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and we also think it's bad for the Scottish economy,

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to make us the highest taxed part of the UK.

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The new bridge, the Queen's Ferry Crossing has cost almost

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?1.5 billion of public money and will open later this year.

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All the political parties who propose higher taxes,

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are now making pledges to spend the money raised

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Giving voters in Scotland a choice - about whether they are prepared

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to pay more for the promise of increased public spending.

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Sarah Smith, BBC News, North Queensferry.

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We will be talking to Sarah in a few minutes' time about the campaign. A

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There A are 4 million people registered to vote in these local

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government and parliamentary elections and they include

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They'll be going to the polls some 18 months after the people of

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Scotland voted against independence in the referendum of 2014.

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The SNP has seen a big surge in membership in the meantime

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and there's confidence in many quarters that a second

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I've been speaking to two very experienced observers,

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with contrasting views, on the inevitability

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So we came to Parliament House in Edinburgh, built

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in the 17th-century to house the old Scottish Parliament and law

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courts, to discuss Scotland's future with one of the architects

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of devolution, and one of Scotland's leading

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Leslie, we are 18 months after the referendum,

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is it your view that Scotland is, nonetheless, still on the road

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I think it is, because Scotland has been getting more

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of a sense of itself, of a Scottish way of doing things,

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more confidence with all the process we've been through, and then

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watching as the rest of the UK - especially

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with a Conservative Government - is waltzing in the

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I don't think there's anything inevitable about this at all.

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History is only inevitable after it's over.

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What we've got is something that's evolving into what's as close

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as you can get to a federal arrangement, in a country

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in which 85% of the people are in one nation.

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If you look at the powers that the Scottish Parliament has,

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it has more powers than a federal unit in almost any federal state -

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more than the Swiss, more than the Canadians.

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So, what you can't say is it's not for looking.

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Looking from Edinburgh this feels more federal than it feels

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Does it have more borrowing powers than a local council?

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No local council in Scotland - or anywhere in the UK -

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Jim, given your role right at the start of this devolution

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journey back in '99, are there things that you would have

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done differently, given what has happened in the meantime?

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I think the thing that should have been done differently

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is that the Scottish Parliament should have had more tax powers

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A body which simply spends money and doesn't raise it, is not really

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With each iteration of an attempt to try and solve the Scottish

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problem, the legislators have been behind the curve.

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That's been true at the beginning, with the Scotland Bill,

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I just wish that somewhere along the line, British politicians had

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seen the opportunity that was presented for the whole

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of the UK, by beginning to think more systematically

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So to conclude, Jim, where do you think Scotland will be

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I'm rather disappointed that we won't be more different

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I think the record is that the Scottish Parliament,

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under all parties, to be fair, has been a cautious

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And in the next five years it will still be that.

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Because I don't think anyone in government has the incentive

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to do the radical thing, particularly if your long-term aim

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is constitutional change, you don't want to rock

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But if you're never going to reach that aim, at some point you have

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to face up to the choices that you have.

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Leslie, your sense of where Scotland will be in five years?

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Well, it all depends on the European referendum.

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If we do end up in the situation of the UK voting to leave

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but Scotland voting to stay in, that does look like a pretty healthy

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trigger for a reassessment of whether Scotland really fits any

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So it's hard to answer it now, because that is looming

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If we look at the polls, most anyway, this place will be dominated

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by the SNP for another five years. What is going on? What is your take

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on that? Well, whoever wins the election, they will have far more

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polls than they did. The polls suggest it will be the SNP. But

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whichever party. They will have control over income tax. That means

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that the Parliament will finally have responsibility for raising a

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lot of the money that it spends. So, every politician, going into this

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campaign, if they want to promise increased spending on health,

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education, anything else, they have to spell out exactly where the money

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is going to come from and that's a fairly profound change in Scottish

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politics. So that's what is at stake. If we think again, it is 18

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monthsp since the SNP and its allies lost the referendum, what is the key

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to its continued electoral success? We are still feeling the effect of

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the referendum, it transformed Scottish politics and polarised

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people. Scottish voters are basically divided in yes and no

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supporters and that has a big impact in what parties are likely to vote

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for. The SNP can expect most of the 45% who voted for independence to

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vote for them. That leaves Labour, the Tories and the Liberal Democrats

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all fighting over the remaining 55% of unionist votes which shows you

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one of the reasons why they are trailing so far behind the SNP in

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the polls. Thank you very much. A quick reminder that there's

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plenty of material online about the Scottish elections

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and also about the elections That's bbc.co.uk/news

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and follow the links. But for now, from the Chamber

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of the Scottish Parliament, The number of people known to have

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died in the earthquake that hit Ecuador on Saturday has

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risen to 480, with around The country's president said

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it was the worst tragedy to hit the country for a decade,

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and estimated the cost of rebuilding The epicenter of the quake

:23:56.:23:57.

is the coastal city of Pedernales. Our Central America correspondent,

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Katy Watson, has been there today. The shocking devastation brought by

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nature. Less than a minute this quake lasted and hardly any house is

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in tact. This was the commercial centre for Pedernales. The shops and

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bars. They have been trying to clear bodies from the rubble in the past

:24:27.:24:30.

few days. They are still working on it there. People tell me there are

:24:31.:24:34.

many bodies trapped inside. They tell me there has been a lot of

:24:35.:24:39.

looting and community residents are coming back here to take what they

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can of their belongings before thieves get them. This man owned a

:24:43.:24:46.

small bar on the corner. He lost five of his family on Saturday. "It

:24:47.:24:53.

was so strong I lost my balance. I went to see my family and they were

:24:54.:24:58.

all huddled in a corridor. It seems they were trying to come downstairs

:24:59.:25:04.

but didn't make it," he said. His daughter-in-law was found cradling

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her six-week-old baby. Both were still alive. She pleaded with him to

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stay but when the authorities issue a tsunami warning, he had to run.

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When he returned mother and baby were dead. As diggers clear the

:25:16.:25:19.

rubble, residents are clearing up their lives, taking what is left to

:25:20.:25:24.

a safer place. International search and rescue teams have finally

:25:25.:25:27.

arrived but have only just started their work and so much is still

:25:28.:25:31.

unknown As we get access to more remote places, we are going to find

:25:32.:25:36.

more people, more needs, more people that have died, etc. The coffins are

:25:37.:25:40.

piling up at the local football stadium. On hand for each new body

:25:41.:25:45.

that is brought out from the rubble. With no homes to go back to,

:25:46.:25:50.

watching the clean-up is all that most residents can do, just waiting

:25:51.:25:53.

to sea whether anybody else can be found, dead or alive.

:25:54.:26:04.

In the last half hour, bosses at Tata Steel plant have announced they

:26:05.:26:11.

are planning a management buyout. A buyer would need to be backed by

:26:12.:26:14.

significant private investment and it is thought it would need support

:26:15.:26:19.

from the UK Government. The manage thement buyout bid is said to

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support retaining steel production in Port Talbot's furnaces.

:26:25.:26:28.

It's voting day in the presidential primary in New York state,

:26:29.:26:31.

where Republican candidate, Donald Trump, is aiming

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to get his campaign back on track after a major stumble in Wisconsin.

:26:34.:26:36.

He is expected to win by a big margin.

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It's his home state, where he lives in a building bearing his name.

:26:39.:26:41.

His name is emblazoned all over the city.

:26:42.:26:45.

This is where he built his corporate brand.

:26:46.:26:48.

But the politics of Donald Trump can also be traced back to New York

:26:49.:26:51.

and the seismic events that had such a traumatizing effect.

:26:52.:26:56.

Manhattan Island was not only the site of the destruction

:26:57.:26:59.

of the Twin Towers in September 2001, but also the collapse

:27:00.:27:01.

of Lehman Brothers in September 2008.

:27:02.:27:07.

All these years on from 9/11 and the financial crash,

:27:08.:27:10.

those two massive convulsions continue to shape the contours

:27:11.:27:14.

of American politics and Donald Trump has exploited fears

:27:15.:27:17.

about Islamist terrorism and frustrations about the economy.

:27:18.:27:20.

Take the ferry to Staten Island, where you will find the blue-collar

:27:21.:27:26.

"Make America great again", is a slogan that

:27:27.:27:33.

His autorepair business is yet to rebound from the great recession.

:27:34.:27:39.

Like so many working Americans, his income has been stagnant.

:27:40.:27:45.

People come in to repair their cars or whatever they are going to do.

:27:46.:27:54.

It is always, "I just haven't got it right now."

:27:55.:27:56.

Do you think Trump can turn it around?

:27:57.:28:01.

I think we've got a good guy going there.

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Friday prayers in uptown Manhattan, where worshippers come dressed

:28:07.:28:10.

in the flag of their country and the uniform of the NYPD.

:28:11.:28:16.

No city has a richer tradition of ethnic diversity but the memory

:28:17.:28:21.

of 9/11 continues to stir fears of the other

:28:22.:28:23.

A recent poll suggested a majority of voters support Donald Trump's

:28:24.:28:31.

proposed ban on foreign Muslims entering the country and that's made

:28:32.:28:35.

these Americans feel like outsiders in their homeland.

:28:36.:28:39.

I think he is trying to do what he wants to do to get votes.

:28:40.:28:49.

You know, he's trying to sort of pander to his audience.

:28:50.:28:52.

This is the land of God, not land of Trump.

:28:53.:28:54.

New York has always stood as a symbol, not just of America's

:28:55.:28:59.

brash self-confidence but also its optimistic spirit.

:29:00.:29:03.

Fear and frustration have propelled the presidential ambitions of one

:29:04.:29:07.

of its most famous sons, but not enough, perhaps, to take him

:29:08.:29:10.

The Queen celebrates her birthday this week, joining the growing ranks

:29:11.:29:23.

There are almost three times as many people over 90 in the UK

:29:24.:29:29.

And for every 100 men aged 90, there are 249 women.

:29:30.:29:34.

Our Home Editor, Mark Easton, went to meet two of

:29:35.:29:36.

They're the last of what's been called, "The greatest generation."

:29:37.:29:44.

At 90, wing-walking John from Leicester and sky-diving Stella

:29:45.:29:49.

from Exeter, display characteristic tenacity and sheer pluck.

:29:50.:29:55.

What was it like when you were on the wing?

:29:56.:29:57.

And I just wanted to go just to have the feeling that they've got

:29:58.:30:08.

See where there is a bus going and get on the bus and go.

:30:09.:30:32.

It's wonderful because you have a free bus ticket.

:30:33.:30:39.

It is a generation whose formative years were dominated by war.

:30:40.:30:45.

At 17, John found himself in the rear turret of a Lancaster,

:30:46.:30:49.

There was a lot of flashes and bombs and of course it was

:30:50.:30:56.

You couldn't see a lot of the ground.

:30:57.:31:00.

What would be going through your mind?

:31:01.:31:04.

The people at home were the fighters,

:31:05.:31:21.

as well as the ones that went to war.

:31:22.:31:23.

Just as they defied the Nazis, so this generation confronts

:31:24.:31:30.

For John, it's been dealing with the agony of losing his

:31:31.:31:34.

We were three weeks off our golden wedding anniversary and after being

:31:35.:31:44.

all that time together, then they don't know you,

:31:45.:31:48.

You have to shake it off and get on with life.

:31:49.:31:56.

The rebellious youth movements of the '50s and '60s were troubling

:31:57.:31:59.

to a generation which never enjoyed such care free days.

:32:00.:32:03.

Technology, too, seemed a threat to simpler times.

:32:04.:32:07.

Before television came, you'd have friends around

:32:08.:32:09.

When television came, people stayed in their own homes.

:32:10.:32:14.

Britain's 500,000 90-somethings tend to see public service as a duty.

:32:15.:32:24.

After leaving the Air Force, John volunteered to become

:32:25.:32:27.

a Special Constable, rising up through the ranks.

:32:28.:32:33.

People did in those days, helped out.

:32:34.:32:37.

They had to do if you were in the war.

:32:38.:32:43.

In our generation, it sort of carried on.

:32:44.:32:45.

That commitment to service, such a feature of the Queen's own life,

:32:46.:32:50.

brought John and his beloved monarch face-to-face when he

:32:51.:32:52.

She is so lovely, calm and I had no problem talking to her.

:32:53.:33:03.

The fortitude and discipline that epitomises the so-called greatest

:33:04.:33:05.

generation are often seen as qualities of the Queen and those

:33:06.:33:09.

who've grown old with her retain a deep respect.

:33:10.:33:14.

I would like to wish my Queen a very happy 90th birthday.

:33:15.:33:22.

Being 90 is a great challenge for many.

:33:23.:33:25.

But for those who still can, there is an inspiring

:33:26.:33:29.

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