15/06/2016 BBC News at Ten

Tonight at Ten, the Chancellor's latest warning that a vote to leave

the EU would bring emergency tax rises and spending cuts.

Campaigning in Kent with just eight days to go, Mr Osborne said there'd

be a big hole in the public finances resulting from a British exit.

Quitting the EU would mean less money, billions less.

And as the economy shrinks, so too would the

That warning certainly stirred the waters.

The rival campaigns clashed on the River Thames

This is utterly irresponsible, in the last throes because you are

in a panic in the Remain camp to suddenly try to frighten

That is not the way that politics should work.

And 65 Conservative MPs have warned that they'd oppose the Chancellor's

Do you mind not looking at me like that all the time? It's really

disturbing. Under pressure from MPs,

the former owner of BHS apologises to staff after the collapse

of the business. I just want to apologise

to all the BHS people this and are involved and I hope

that by the end of the morning, they will hear everything and we can find

some sensible solutions A special report from Syria

on the fight to dislodge Islamic State forces

from a key town. And police in Lille use tear

gas on England football fans, following scuffles

in the city centre. And coming up later on BBC News,

I will be live in Paris with Euro 2016 Sportsday,

including all the goals from today's three matches

in the tournament. The Chancellor, George Osborne,

has been publicly challenged by dozens of Conservative MPs,

following his warning that tax rises and spending cuts would be needed

if Britain voted to leave They warned that his position

would become "untenable" if he tried to present an emergency Budget

following the referendum. But Mr Osborne says there'd be

a ?30 billion gap in the public finances, which could be

plugged with a 2p rise in the basic rate of income tax,

and ?15 billion in spending cuts. But as our political editor

Laura Kuenssberg reports, there was a combative response

from Leave campaigners, including no fewer than 65

Conservative MPs. On land, and almost sea,

the referendum clashes Go back down the river

because you're up one Bob Geldof taking on Nigel

Farage on the Thames. It's all right for

millionaires, mate! Crowds and campaigners

shouting the odds, too. The Chancellor, with the man

who used to do his job for Labour, claiming if you vote to leave,

a sudden deterioration in the country's bank balance

would mean whopping tax You've got a situation

today where you've got a Conservative Chancellor

and a Labour Chancellor both saying to the country that there would be

a big hole in the public finances. That you'd have to raise

taxes and cut spending. And, I tell you, there's only one

thing worse than passing a Budget like that, that's not passing

a Budget to deal with the situation and sending the economy

into a tail spin. What if there were really

an economic shock if we quit the EU? Every sensible authority agrees that

if we vote to leave our ability to deal with the consequences

of that will be reduced. That's why I'm even more worried

now, much more worried But there's been furious resistance

from the Outers, saying the Chancellor's hypothetical

Brexit Budget has just gone too far. You know, of course I respect

all the opinions in this hard-fought campaign,

but when you have today even the Leave campaign saying there's

going to be an economic consequence, people need to know

that before they cast their vote. He claims he'd have no choice

but to deliver such bad news because he'd have to fill

a ?30 billion hole in the books. The chances of George Osborne

standing on the steps with a Budget It's almost impossible to imagine

that he'd get the support, but the message Number

11 wants to give is - if the country votes to leave

the EU, we'd all pay But nearly 70 Tory MPs,

who want out of the EU, One MP told me - smart

guy, stupid move. The campaign leaders haven't

made their views public, but some This is no longer just

about the referendum, You have a Chancellor coming out

and irresponsibly trying to scare the public and even

scare the markets. I've never seen anything

like it in 24 years. He needs to think again and stop

this nonsense at once. You're saying, if he carried

on like this, he'd have to go? What is responsible

is for a Chancellor to say, no matter what happens,

Britain is good enough But there could be huge turbulence

if we vote to leave. Outers published five new laws

they'd try to pass if they win - to end EU immigration,

to abolish VAT on energy bills and to negotiate new trade

deals, almost like an This campaign's gone way

beyond the ordinary, far past the usual insults

and intrigue of politics and now, with a significant chunk of Tory MPs

saying, if the country votes out, they'd try to oust George Osborne,

it feels like there's The police even got involved

as campaigns weren't just messing around on the river,

but taking each other on. There's little sign of apathy

as this decision approaches, every awareness of

how much it counts. Laura Kuenssberg, BBC News,

Westminster. Let's talk about the notion of the

emergency budget. Our economics editor,

Kamal Ahmed, is here. How realistic would it be?

Certainly, the Treasury or the Remain camp have tried to make it

look realistic. This is the document they brought out about the emergency

budget. There was a real budget earlier this year from the Treasury

and they look pretty similar. Most economists agree that if Britain

left the European Union, at least in the short term, there would be an

economic shock and that could have an effect on public finances and

could leave a shortfall of about ?30 billion by 2020. Now, would any

Chancellor in that scenario have two chief all that saving needed to fill

the shortfall in one budget, in one emergency budget? That is pretty

unlikely. George Osborne admitted that different chancellors would

have different approaches to spending cuts and tax rises and

whether they might borrow a little more or stretch out the timescale at

which they said they were going to hit a budget surplus. In terms of an

emergency budget in one go, pretty unlikely. What is really

interesting, though, is how much is this debate resonating around the

world now? Tonight, Janet Yellen, the chairwoman of the Federal

Reserve in America, the US central bank, has said that the vote on the

23rd of June as consequences for the global economy and they are so

uncertain that she says she has put of increasing interest rates in

America at least in part because of the referendum in the UK. She is not

saying if those consequences are good or bad but the world is

certainly watching for the outcome of the vote on the 23rd of June.

Thank you for joining us. If Britain votes to stay

in the European Union, there should still be reform

of the rules on free movement of people, according

to the Home Secretary, Theresa May, who's been

explaining her attitude Our political editor

Laura Kuenssberg has spoken to prominent figures on both sides

of the debate, and in her exclusive interview,

she asks the Home Secretary why she's decided to back

the Remain campaign. In a world of loudmouths,

she's a quiet politician. Don't mistake that for having

nothing to say. For a while on the EU though,

it wasn't clear where Theresa May would pin her colours,

which way she'd go. Well, there were plenty of voices

suggesting what I should do in this. Of course, there were quite a lot

of voices suggesting that I should But, as I say, I approached this

decision in the way I approach other important decisions -

look at the facts When I put all of that together,

when I think about the potential risk to jobs, the uncertainties

for our economy, if we were to leave the European Union,

when I think about the security, the discussions I've had

within the EU, because I do believe But this campaign's

about immigration, too. As Home Secretary,

her responsibility. I completely understand why people

are concerned about immigration. There's no one thing that you can do

that is suddenly going to deal with all the problems and concerns

people have with immigration That's not the single answer

to this issue. But there's one big truth

though here, isn't there, which is, for as long as we're

in the EU, we can't cap the numbers of people coming in here from other

countries in Europe? There are some changes coming up

in free movement rules. We should look at further

reform in the future. What would you say to your

colleagues though, who have been campaigning so viciously

against each other? It's understandable that people feel

very passionately about it. But when you said you wanted

a serious and mature debate, it sounded a bit

like you were telling them No, what I was doing was setting

out my approach to this campaign. A reluctant Remainer,

has she hesitated to dig in? You've been quite quiet

during the campaign. Well, I haven't hung back.

I don't think I've been quiet. I'll be out and about over the next

few days but, of course, I've also had some Government

business to do and, I suppose, it's how I've always got

on with whatever role I'm in, whatever job I'm doing,

is just get my head down Do you think, whatever happens,

David Cameron will still be in In a few months' time?

Yes, I do. I think that's important

because David was elected as Prime Would you ever consider

running for the job? Look, David, I hope,

is going to carry on until 2020. Right now I'm focusing

on the referendum and we've got a job to do coming

back into Government. But would you rule it out?

There's no vacancy. I said there's no vacancy,

Laura. Look, whatever I say to you,

it's going to be taken this way I hope David's going to continue

in the job until 2020. With the referendum so close,

that's not clear at all. Michael Gove has become

the most senior Conservative to announce he will oppose any

emergency austerity Budget by the Chancellor, if Britain

votes to leave the EU. Mr Gove was taking questions

from voters in a special edition The Prime Minister will appear

on the programme next week. Our deputy political editor

John Pienaar reports from Nottingham Ready for his close-up,

Michael Gove. Perfect, thank you very

much, thank you. Maybe the only man you could meet

who would always remember his And this is now a political

fight to the death. If we do vote to leave the EU,

will you be supporting No, what we have heard

from the Remain campaign throughout this whole referendum have been dire

warnings of the terrible consequences of the British

people just taking control And the truth is, if we vote

to leave, we will be in The budget uprising had

reached the Cabinet and he swerved a question

on the Chancellor's future. Is the price of Brexit

that Osborne goes? Is that maybe one of the things that

you want to see happen? Instead of listening to the scare

stories and instead of thinking about individuals and personalities,

think about the potential The Leavers' warnings on migration,

the issue so dominant in this Is Vote Leave scaremongering, saying

that Turkey and its 76 million The only way that any

of us will have a vote as to whether or not

we are in the same union as Turkey is if we vote

to leave on June the 23rd. The Prime Minister says

we have a veto on that. It will only happen

if the British Prime Minister wants it, so we have

power over that decision. But the government has no

intention of using that veto. So in other words, don't believe

David Cameron. But cutting migrant numbers below

100,000 a year could only start I think we can secure our exit

from the European Union by 2020 and then we can move to bring down

the numbers in the next Parliament. An incomer from Spain

was feeling hurt and showed it. I have been working in England

for 14 years now, paying my We are not the enemy,

Mr Gove, we're not the enemy. If we are going to continue to have

support for migration, then we need to be able

to control the numbers. One of the reasons why

Australia and Canada have support for migration

is because they control the numbers. This former friend and ally

to the Prime Minister and the Chancellor is now

in the front line against both. The debate has become close combat

and political wounds With eight days to go, where do we

stand in the campaign? Laura Kuenssberg is with me. What is your

sense of where the momentum is now? There's something quite strange

going on at the moment, remain nervous because they are confronting

the fact they might lose and Out are nervous because they are confronting

the fact they might actually win this. Remain a shouting as loud as

they can about their core message, don't take the economic risk but I

think they are aware that some voters feel quite deafened by that

and they are almost sticking their fingers in their areas. Out are

pretty buoyant, even though they also know they have not been able to

fill in all the blanks that voters have been asking them to do. But

they are helped by the fact that conversation keeps on being dragged

back to immigration. It is a concern that so many voters. Part of that is

because there are conflicting messages coming out of the Remain

camp. Home Secretary Theresa May and some Labour figures like Tom Watson

say we should look again at the European rules about who can come

here and others like the Chancellor say it's just not going to happen.

But eight days to go and if we take a breath, the vote is very, very

close in time sense but a lot could still change in this campaign. It

has been very, very dynamic, it may still move very fast and the

concrete has not set yet. Thank you for joining us.

The billionaire businessman, Sir Philip Green, has apologised

to the staff of BHS, admitting that he'd sold the business last

The company collapsed last month, putting 11,000 jobs at risk.

Sir Philip, giving evidence to a parliamentary committee today,

also said that he would "sort" the firm's pension scheme,

This report from our business editor, Simon Jack, contains

Putting together the pieces of a high street failure.

The person who knows how they all fit arrived for his moment

Sir Philip Green sold BHS in 2015, 13 months later it collapsed

It didn't need to be like this and I just want to apologise

to all the BHS people you've been involved in this and are

involved and I hope that, by the end of the morning,

they'll hear everything and we can find some sensible solutions

He sold the chain for just ?1 to this man, Dominic Chappell,

a former bankrupt with no retail experience.

Sir Philip himself set out one of the key questions.

Did we go out of our way intentionally to find

In fact, in this case, Chappell, right, to find somebody to end

I think, hopefully, three hours in, or however long it is,

or three-and-a-half hours in, whatever it is,

you can accept that was not the case.

During a sometimes testing encounter, he tried hard

to control his temper, not always successfully.

Sir, do you mind not looking at me like that all the time,

You just want to stare at me, it's just uncomfortable.

You look better with your glasses on.

I don't like the way you're asking me the question.

Sir, which bit of don't remember is difficult for you to listen to?

He then blamed his own advisers, Goldman Sachs.

If Mr Chappell had not passed Goldman Sachs' sniff test

of their credibility, would you have done a deal with him?

20,000 pensioners are facing cuts to their retirement income.

We will sort it, we will find a solution and I want to give

an assurance to the 20,000 pensioners, I'm there to sort this.

There wasn't enough detail today to reassure scheme members,

I think the right thing to do would be to make sure that no-one

is any worse off because of the collapse of BHS.

He says he has an affinity with the company, 15 years, let's

He's got the money to do it and look after these 20,000

Sir Philip's retail fortune is now in his wife's Monaco bank

account and the committee wanted to know why there.

Somebody suggested it and we went there, wanted to put my children

We went there, had a look, met the people, and decided

When did you find out that it had tax advantages if you stayed there?

Sir Philip hoped to save his reputation today.

His trump card was a promise to help 20,000 pensioners.

How big a cheque he'll write, and to whom, is still unclear.

There are questions remaining about Goldman Sachs' role

Don't forget, he financially supported the very person

Sir Philip will soon be heading back to Monaco,

but there's still some missing pieces from this puzzle.

Let's have a brief look at some of the day's other news stories.

Flight investigators in Egypt say wreckage from the EgyptAir jet

which crashed last month has been found on the ocean bed.

A deep ocean search vessel has found "several main locations"

for the wreckage and has provided the first images

The widow of the broadcaster and former Liberal MP,

Sir Clement Freud, has apologised to two women

of sexually abusing them when they were girls.

The allegations have been made in an ITV documentary.

The former Olympic athlete, Oscar Pistorius, has appeared

in court in South Africa without his prosthetic legs

during a hearing to determine his sentence

for murdering his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp.

His lawyer sought to show that he's vulnerable

The prosecution is asking for a 15-year sentence.

A search has found the body of a two-year-old boy

who was dragged away by an alligator near Disney

The child was dragged into the water whilst paddling in a lagoon at

One of the UK's busiest ambulance services is being investigated

after reports of bullying and harassment and a dispatch system

that's described as "unfit for purpose."

The South East Coast Ambulance Trust is now facing investigation

Staff have been telling the BBC about problems, including calls not

being answered quickly enough and out-of-date maps being used

Our health editor, Hugh Pym, has more details.

It serves millions of people in south-east England and it's

already under intense scrutiny after revelations about a scheme

to deprioritise certain calls in order to hit

Now documents, seen by the BBC, reveal the extent of official

concern about the state of the south-east coast service.

A letter from the regulator, the CQC, to Trust management refers

to processes and systems which are "highly unsatisfactory."

It says, "safeguarding arrangements are exceptionally weak" and that

"throughout management accountability is absent

The BBC's been told about issues with the ambulance computer dispatch

system, known as CAD, and 1,000 call a week not

An internal memo said there'd been continuous problems.

Linda is an emergency call handler who's recently decided to leave.

The computer system doesn't always work.

It sometimes fails, so you'll be in the middle of a call

and the computer system will fail and you'll have to go

Given that problems at this Trust were first revealed at the end

of last year and that weaknesses are now being discussed

with the management, the question now is whether the regulator

will intervene in the running of the Ambulance Service.

They've been calls for urgent action to resolve what's gone wrong

The Trust has lost the confidence of the public and have lost

The Trust has lost the confidence of the public and they've lost

the confidence of their employees and I think there should now be

a public inquiry, run by the Health Service Select

"We do recognise that system issues can cause frustration for staff,

but these matters are subject to review by a project group.

Fortunately, critical issues with the system are rare and

However, the Trust is keen to improve the CAD's

reliability and is working hard to address this."

The Trust also said it was awaiting the final report from the regulator,

but the Department of Health said poor leadership at the service

had put safety at risk, which was totally unacceptable

and that patients and staff deserved better.

There's been more fierce fighting against the so-called Islamic State.

It's defending territory now in Iraq and Libya and in Syria,

where an alliance of opposition forces is on the verge of taking

back control of the key city of Manbij, around 50 miles

north-east of Aleppo, which was occupied by IS

It's currently encircled by Kurdish, Arab and Turkmen forces

Manbij is a crucial staging post for IS, lying between the Turkish

My colleague, Jiyar Gol, from the BBC's Persian Service

and cameraman, Joe Inwood, are the only international

broadcasters to have gained access to the area and they sent

It's a difficult drive to the Manbij front-line.

IS has retreated, but left mines and roadside bombs.

Now, Kurdish and Arab fighters have encircled the city.

TRANSLATION: We are at the gates of Manbij.

God willing, we will end Isis injustice and liberate our

This Chechen fighter was just seconds away

Western special forces are also on the ground.

We caught a glimpse, but were told to stop filming.

They are directing these, and this is what coalition air

And here, you can see this is one of the IS positions.

But, even behind the front-lines, these displaced

There's a couple of rounds coming in.

We hear a sniper's bullets flying overhead.

We were in that village just a minutes ago.

I can see the smoke actually rising from the village.

I think something's happening in the village.

So, while IS are down, they're far from out of the fight.

It makes these Arab fighters nervous.

They think they are coming under attack.

But a closer look reveals it's civilians they are firing on.

They have been living under strict IS control for more than two years.

They made us grow long beards and told us what to wear.

The youngest to flee, born just a few hours ago.

These people may have escaped, but tens of thousands remain

With IS digging in, the coalition may have to fight

Jiyar Gol, BBC News, on the Manbij front-lines.

European Union officials in Brussels say they're looking into reports

that a group of militants - part of the so-called

Islamic State - are heading to Europe from Syria.

Those who want the UK to remain in the EU insist that co-operation

on security issues is a very important reason to stay in.

In the latest of our series looking at the big issues ahead of the EU

referendum, our Europe editor, Katya Adler, considers

We want to believe that our family is safe.

Over the last 12 months, with the attacks in Brussels

and in Paris and with the hundreds of thousands of refugees and other

migrants crowding across the continent, people have told us

So European Union membership, does it make us safer

Let's look at border security and the migrant crisis.

Governor Niesel's normally tranquil region of Austria was turned upside

down last year when hundreds of thousands of refugees and others

TRANSLATION: The EU failed to protect borders, to protect

Austria had to reintroduce national controls to protect itself.

Governor Nissel told me he couldn't imagine the UK ever putting up

with people crossing its borders unchecked.

Unlike Austria, the UK never signed up to the open

border Schengen Agreement, but Britons were unsettled by these

images all the same, worrying that migrants could reach

If the UK leaves the EU, it won't stop asylum seekers

and economic migrants trying to get there to improve their lives.

But if Britain stays, the EU cannot impose non-EU migrant

quotas on the UK, it has an effective opt-out and,

unlike Austria, Britain would never have to push to reintroduce passport

At Europol HQ, the EU's law enforcement agency,

we were given special access to a team tracking European

sympathiesers of so-called Islamic State online.

Most of the bombers in the Paris and the Brussels

Some of the team here prefer to remain anonymous.

Here they specifically said that they will take over Rome

and they will spill the blood of the infidels in Rome.

Whether or not the UK stays in the EU, it will always

want intelligence on EU nationals entering Britain.

Would we really lose all access to shared EU intelligence

It wouldn't be the end, of course, but it would be

I think there will be a significant risk and the possibility that the UK

would have reduced access to some of the systems that at the moment

are helping Britain defend itself from terrorism and serious crime.

Russian bombers repeatedly probed Britain's air defences last

year as President Putin flexed his muscles.

This is video from one of those bombers as Nato

EU sanctions certainly hurt Russia but...

The UK is, obviously, a Nato member.

The UK has a seat on the UN Security Council.

The UK has a strong relationship with the United States and has very

So does it actually need the EU

I mean, it doesn't need the EU for security reasons,

but I think the best answer to this question is - who would

Brexit would give the UK more control internally,

but it wouldn't stop international cybercrime, illegal migration

Of course, it also wouldn't stop the UK co-operating

with its European neighbours, but it could make those relations

Police in the French city of Lille have used tear gas to keep English

and Russian fans apart, amid renewed violence at the Euro

Russia played in Lille today, and English and Welsh supporters

have also gathered in the city ahead of tomorrow's match

Their game is taking place in nearby Lens.

Our sports editor, Dan Roan, is there.

His report contains some flashing images.

The all too familiar sight of tear gas on the streets of France.

It's not clear which fans are involved, but this

was the centre of Lille earlier tonight where tens of thousands

With both Russia and England warned they'd be thrown out of Euro 2016,

if their fans' behaviour didn't improve, these scenes the last thing

A disappointing build-up to a match in nearby Lens tomorrow that

Gareth Bale's brilliance has inspired Wales to their first major

COMMENTATOR: Bale for Wales.

Having helped them win their opening match, the world's most expensive

player is relishing an international derby against England.

They have a good team, there's no question about that.

But, yeah, come match day, when you cross that white line,

And, as if to prove it, here's how many Englishmen Bale

England would no doubt disagree, but having only managed a draw

in their first game, manager, Roy Hodgson,

admits his team now needs this more than their opponents.

They are under less pressure because normally,

when you win a game, and three teams qualify

from the Group, you're basically qualified the moment you win a game.

So there's no doubt that the answer to that question

is that they are under less pressure.

These Wales players know this is as big as it gets.

Ever since the draw was made, this is a game that's

Quite simply, the biggest home nations clash for 20 years.

Euro 96 and Paul Gascoigne's wonder goal secures victory for England

So could this match provide as much drama?

When that first whistle goes, players will be at it.

There'll be no favours done, you're representing

But I just feel Wales have the slight advantage

simply because they've got a win on the board.

COMMENTATOR: Russia have left him alone.

And both teams know that with Russia losing to Slovakia today,

a win will put them in pole position to qualify for the next round.

Northern Ireland also play tomorrow hoping for their first

point of the tournament against Ukraine in Lyon.

But as England's players arrived in Lens today,

they knew their fate in this tournament could depend

as much on their fans as it does on their football.

We are getting reports of more trouble in Lille. Let me show you

these images that have just come into us. This is a group of French

riot police charging, we are told, at English fans in the centre of

Lille, using tear gas, once again, as they did earlier today. A few

details about what exactly caused this. Certainly, these exchanges

took place within the last 20 minutes or so. French riot police

are still there on the ground in Lille. More details of course

overnight on the BBC News Channel and on BBC News online. Newsnight is

about to start over on BBC Two, here's Evan.

We're on the referendum road again tonight, coming live from Leicester,

a city that knows about winning against all the odds.

Can it help you decide who should win the Europe vote?

Join me now on BBC Two, 11.00pm in Scotland.

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