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We're in Wembley where the biggest debate of this EU referendum

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Six prominent Remain and Leave campaigners,

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an audience of up to 6,000 voters debating the economy, Britain's

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Your campaign hasn't been project fear, it's been project hate, as far

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I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask people...

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to ask people whether they'd rather proceed on the basis of Government

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promises on immigration or whether they would rather

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There were repeated clashes on whether leaving the EU would lead

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As long as we're shackled to a failing Eurozone,

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libel to bail out after bail out, we will not succeed.

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They haven't told us how many jobs would be lost.

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They haven't told us how long new trade deals would take.

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They haven't told us how big the hit will be.

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I don't think that's good enough when That's good enough when you're

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We'll have reaction away from Wembley to see how the debate's

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In his first interview, the husband of the MP

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Jo Cox says his wife died because of her politics.

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She was a politician and she had very strong political views and I

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believe she was killed because of those views.

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Behind the smiles - the father, who murdered his

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daughter in a fit of rage, jailed for a minimum of 23 years.

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Major Tim Peake on returning to earth and his message

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In football, Northern Ireland lose their match to Germany,

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On Euro 2016 Sportsday we will have further reaction to that narrow

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defeat at the hands of Germany here in Paris. The Northern Ireland fans

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say they're not going home just yet. Good evening from Wembley Arena,

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where 6,000 voters have been attending the biggest debate of this

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EU referendum campaign, Tonight's debate focused on three

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areas - the economy, immigration There were some hard-hitting

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exchanges, especially on immigration, but time and again

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the two sides accused each other of misleading voters on some

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of the biggest questions of the day. Our political editor,

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Laura Kuenssberg, Big ideas, big characters, big rows.

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Now, time for the biggest debate. APPLAUSE Tonight, for both sides,

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it's so clearly really mattered. You know, sometimes voting doesn't make

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much difference, on Thursday it really does. You will decide who

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makes decisions about the future of this country. Even those who want us

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to leave admit that it's a big gamble. If there's one thing you

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should remember when you go to vote, it's this - if we as a country

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decide to quit, we're out for good. There's no going back. First, how

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the country makes a living. This country receives about a fifth of

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Germany's entire car manufacturing output. 820,000 vehicles a year. Do

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you seriously suppose that they are going to be so insane as to allow

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tariffs to be imposed between Britain and Germany? I'm here

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representing workers tonight. Union reps from BMW, Ford nicksan, you

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name, it across the manufacturing sector they are saying we cannot

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afford to take this gamble. All the Remain side have to talk about is

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project Fear. We are the fifth biggest economy in the world. We

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will be able to negotiate free trade once we're free of the European

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Union base. They have done a terrible job negotiated free trade

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for us. The sharpest clash between two Tories. Michael Gove say it is

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would mean bumps in the road. He can't guarantee people won't lose

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their jobs. I cannot guarantee that every person currently in work in

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their current job will keep their job. Boris Johnson said, will there

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be job losses? Is there might or might not. That is not good enough.

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APPLAUSE. That is not good enough. APPLAUSE. I think it's very

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surprising... It hasn't taken them long. Boris. It hasn't taken them

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long. How many jobs will go, Boris They would say they would have a

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positive and pay he reel Octoberic case they are back to project fear

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It's not unreasonable for a mum and dad worried about paying the bills

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to ask what is your plan. A slogan is not a plan. Then immigration and

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identity. My family and had first-hand experience recently with

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the NHS how would it manage if they left the EU giving the UK's ability

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to train doctors and An Australian style nurses. Points-based system

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much we get the people we need for the NHS and all our other businesses

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and services. The only way you can do that is to vote leave. Have a

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fair immigration policy it should not be a free-for-all. David Cameron

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deserves credit for the deal he negotiated with the EU. What it

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means... What did he LAUGHTER. Say? What it means, is you pay in before

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you can take out. You have to wait four years. . We should do tonight

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in a discussion about immigration is celebrate immigrants and

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immigration. Everything they do for our country. I speak entirely

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personally. They are - my family, my family has benefitted massively from

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immigration. The problem is this. You might start off with plaid

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toweds saying how wonderful immigration is, your campaign hasn't

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been project fear, it's been project hate as far as immigration's

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concerned. APPLAUSE. Again, the In camp

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targeting Boris Johnson. This time over Turkey. You're telling lies you

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are scaring people you have used taxpayers money to put out an

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election leaflet that says Turkey is set to join and there's a map. This

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map shows in red Turkey, butlet only country you named in this map are

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Syria and Iraq. That's scaremongering, Boris. You should be

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ashamed. I would quite like the real David Cameron to step forward and

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tell us what the policy on Turkey is. As a young working-class man I

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feel at the back of the queue for entry level jobs, housing and public

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services. How many people each year can the UK reasonably cope with? You

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don't fund schools and hospitals and you don't control immigration by

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crashing the economy and that's what leaving the EU would do. That just

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is completely nonsense. What we will be able to do is to manage the

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numbers of people who are coming to this country so that we can be fair

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to those who come here and fair to those who already live here. Then

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almost a final words after months of clashes. I know that the EU isn't

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perfect, but the benefits far outweigh any costs. The Britain that

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I know, the Britain that I love, works with its friends and

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neighbours. It doesn't walk away from them. If we vote Leave and take

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back control, I believe that this Thursday can be our country's

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Independence Day. APPLAUSE. An ovation for that

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promise after a bruising debate. One day left after weeks and weeks, few

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now can say the arguments have not been heard. Laura Kuenssberg, BBC

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News, Wembley. Representatives of the Leave

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and Remain campaigns are trying to make sure that tonight's debate

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is interpreted to They're in the so-called "spin room"

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with broadcasters and other media Our deputy political editor,

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John Pienaar, is with them. John, what do you make of the case

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and the claims being made by both sides? Well you can get a sense

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looking around here. This place is very, very busy. Around me you can

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see the journalists and writers from online, broadcasters and newspapers

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pounding out their copy of what they made of the evening. On either side

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you see the message managers, weaving their tales, spinning their

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tales. Look over there. Steve Hilton, former adviser to David

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Cameron. He is the one who claimed that Cameron was up against it

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today, trying to hide the fact he was losing the argument on

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migration. That he'd been told years ago he would never reach that target

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of migration below 100,000, but ploughing on anyway. Down here, you

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can see there Lisa, in the Shadow Cabinet. Over there Chuka Umunna, a

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senior Labour figure. They say the Remain side had a good night. Lisa

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said they thought she had never been so confident. It's difficult on the

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issue of migration. They thought they had the Leave side on the back

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foot. What you get agreements on, it was a real fight here tonight. A

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really rather even battle. Each side happy with the way they...

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Altogether and the copy that is being bashed out by the journalists

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at each of these tables and laptops getting their copy ready for the

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morning and overnight. They feel there is a true battle going on. The

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outcome very much in the balance after a truly passionate difficult

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campaign for so many of reasons. With a certain amount of tragedy

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intruding into the proceedings in the way we've seen, it makes it an

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unpredictable outcome. It's truly in the balance. But on the Remain side

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they now think they are very much in this fight the way they were

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beginning to get dispondent not so long ago. They are becoming

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gradually more confident. Interesting, John, thank you very

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much. John Pienaar there in that spin room for us in Wembley a short

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distance away. John there with the view as he see it is from the Leave

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and Remain campaigns. The view there from the Leave

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and Remain campaigns, but what did those in tonight's

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audience here at Wembley make My colleague, Reeta Chakrabarti,

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is with some of those who asked Thank you. I'm with four of the

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people who kick-started the different sections of the debate.

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The first of all, Maxine, you are a Leave supporter. You run a small

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business and you feel stifled by EU legislation. You asked what was the

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benefit to you in staying in the EU. Were you persuaded there are

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benefits? No, not at all. I was actually quite disappointed with

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what was actually said from the Remain side this evening. What about

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from the Leave side what did they say to you that you thought, yes?

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Lots of positives. Things came about 60% of our regulation comes from the

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EU. For me, as a small business owner, I know, I've suffered ford

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it. So have many other small businesses. Small business do make

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up the majority of employers in the country. For me, there is only one

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choice really that is to vote Leave and do the right thing on Thursday.

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OK. Miranda you asked a question on the economy. You worried there would

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be weaker employment and social rights if we leave. What did you

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think of the responses you got? I was very concerned from the Leave

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side they didn't address the issues regarding employment and social

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rights today. Yes, they made the case that we had the Sex

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Discrimination Act and the Equal Pay Act put into place by national

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Government, but they didn't talk about the fact that Governments of

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both the main political parties have fought tooth and nail for rights

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against agency workers, fixed time workers, part-time workers, equality

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directives. If we leave the EU they will not have to adhere to any of

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that any more. In the modern-day, governments have not protected our

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rights. I'm very concerned that leaving the EU would mean a

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weakening and a slippery slope in terms 67 employment and social

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rights. I'm not convinced by the Leave answer. You are a Leave

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supporter. You wanted to know how many people each year can the UK

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reasonably cope with. Did you think you you got an answer? I don't think

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I was given an exact answer by either side of the campaign tonight.

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What did you think of the arguments made? I think that the leave

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campaign put forward a persuasive argue up. They told me how I would

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feel like I wasn't at the back of the queue for public services entry

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level jobs and housing and how we do better. The remain campaign dodged

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the question and didn't give me a clear answer on any of the points I

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raised. Which was very disappointing. I will be voting

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leave. OK. Alex. You asked the last question which was about Britain's

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place in the world. Suggesting that the EU has helped to Foster European

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peace. Did you hear anything to change your mind No, I didn't. I

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wasn't impressed with the answers on the leave side of the panel. I don't

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think there has been positive dialogue in the entire debate. There

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is a positive story to tell about the EU's role in fostering peace.

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They resorted to the same EU army we can block that as members of the EU

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and put it down to Nato. EU and NATO play a complimentary roles. Thank

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you very much, Alex. Thank you of course to all of you. So some widely

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diverging views here. Deeply held. Back to you.

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Laura Kuenssberg, our political editor, is with me here

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Both sides felt it had been evenly balanced. That was John's take? Both

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sides will feel that they had a decent outing tonight. I think the

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Remain team on stage tonight maybe answereden a question that has been

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asked a lot in this campaign - where is the passion for staying in the

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European Union? I think we saw that team with new faces to many people,

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Sadiq Khan, the Labour Mayor of London, the Scottish Tory leader,

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Ruth Davidson,ing together as a team to make arguments for the European

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Union rather than making excuses for it. That's a criticism that has been

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levelled at the In camp throughout the past few weeks. At the same

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time, that big ovation at the end, audience members on their feet, that

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was for Boris Johnson and his promise of an Independence Day on

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the 24th June if we were to vote to leave the European Union. There is

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no question really, tonight, as throughout the campaign, the

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emotional enthusiasm that, that does matter in politics, is on that side

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of the argument. Laura, we'll talk again a little later. Thanks very

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much for now. Laura Kuenssberg there. More from Wembley later.

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More from Wembley a little later in the programme and much more,

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of course, on our website with analysis of the campaigns

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and what they're saying about the central themes

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But for now, it's back to Fiona in the studio.

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Let's take a look at some of the day's other news.

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The husband of the Labour MP Jo Cox, who was attacked and killed

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in her constituency last week, has given his first interview,

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saying he believes she died for her political views.

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Brendan Cox said his wife had been worried about the tone

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of the political debate in the UK and feared that it was sowing

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He's been speaking to our political editor, Laura Kuenssberg.

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Obviously, we never anticipated anything like this, but then

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the public reaction has been off the scale and the two things that

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I've been very focused on is - how do we support and protect

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the children and how do we make sure that something

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And, what the public support and outpouring of love around this

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does is it also helps the children see that what they're feeling

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That the grief they feel isn't abnormal.

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That they feel it more acutely and more painfully

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and more personally, but that actually their mother

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was someone who was loved by lots of people and that,

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therefore, it's OK to be upset and it's OK for them to cry and be

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sad about it and the reason I wanted to speak today was just to thank

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the public who have been incredible in response to this.

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What will you tell your children about

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I think that one of the things from what happened, in terms

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of the public reaction, is that she's been seen as a symbol

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A sense of creating more compassion and more love in the world.

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And the thing that I don't want to lose is that she was also their mum.

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So I want to protect the personal memory as well as the more political

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memory and the symbolism that she's taken on.

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Was she worried about our current political culture, do you think?

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Yeah, very worried, and from left and right.

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I think she was very worried that the language was coarsening,

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that people were being driven to take more extreme positions.

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I think she worried that we were entering an age

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that we hadn't seen maybe since the 1930s of people feeling

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insecure, for lots of different reasons, for economic reasons

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or security reasons and then populous politicians,

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whether that's Trump in the US or whoever else, exploiting that

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and driving communities to hate each other.

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This, of course, has happened at a time when Britain's engaged

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in a big national conversation about our place in the world

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We know that she was clearly for staying in the European Union,

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but what did she make of how the conversation's been conducted?

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I think, as everybody knows, that Jo was a passionate

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pro-European and she definitely worried about the tone

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Not that it's not a legitimate debate to have and that there aren't

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completely legitimate views on both sides of the debate,

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but more about the tone of whipping up fears and whipping up hatred.

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Do you worry now about people using her in the political debate?

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She was a politician and she had very strong political views

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and I believe she was killed because of those views.

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She would want to stand up for those in death as much as she did in life.

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I will remember somebody who had incredible energy,

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Somebody who would have no regrets about how she lived her life.

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So I'll remember so much about her but, most of al,l

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I will just remember that she met the world with love and...

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Both love for her children, love in our family, but also love

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She just approached things with a spirit.

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She wasn't perfect at all, you know, but she just wanted

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to make the world a better place and to contribute

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That was Brendan Cox speaking to our political

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A brief look at some of the day's other news stories.

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The International Olympic Committee has ruled that competitors

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from Russia and Kenya must have extra checks, before they can take

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part in the Rio Olympics because of fears about doping.

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Last week, the governing body of world athletics, the IAAF,

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banned track-and-field athletes from competing as part

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Sir Cliff Richard has said he may sue South Yorkshire Police

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and the BBC for the way they pursued and reported sex abuse

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He says his health has been damaged by the stress.

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The case against him was dropped earlier this month.

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In a statement, the BBC apologised for any distress caused

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but said it had "applied normal editorial judgments" to the story.

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A former Congolese vice-president, who was found guilty

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of crimes against humanity, has been sentenced

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Jean-Pierre Bemba was found guilty by the International Criminal Court

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in the Hague of failing to stop his troops from killing

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and raping civilians in the Central African Republic.

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A man has been jailed for life for murdering his six-year-old

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daughter, just months after she was returned to his care

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Ben Butler attacked his daughter Ellie, leaving her with

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He'd been convicted of shaking Ellie as a baby, but that was later

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quashed and a family court judge returned her to his care.

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That decision has now been criticised in a serious case review,

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as our social affairs correspondent, Alison Holt, reports.

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This is the family life Ben Butler fought for.

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And the life he destroyed in a fit of rage.

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Six-year-old Ellie was living with a man on a short fuse

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as an accidentally recorded phone call demonstrated.

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Don't you ask me to do something which you ain't (BLEEP) done

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The film also shows Ellie with a black eye, which Butler

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Weeks later, in October 2013, he battered Ellie to death,

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Jennie Gray worked opposite the Old Bailey, yards from the court

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CCTV footage shows her rushing home to Sutton where they tried to stage

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things to look like an accident before sending their younger

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child to find Ellie and finally calling 999.

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JENNIE GRAY: My daughter is not breathing properly.

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Jennie Gray is shouting with Ben Butler in the background.

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OPERATOR: OK, OK, darling, I'm helping you now.

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It's a 15 minute call in which Jennie Gray is also

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instructed in how to resuscitate Ellie.

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OPERATOR: 30 times you need to pump the chest.

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JENNIE GRAY: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 , 6, 7 , 8 , 9..

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OPERATOR: OK, darling, you're doing really well.

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Detectives soon worked out that Ellie had been dead for some time.

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When you realise that at the time the ambulance was called,

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it's give or take two hours after she first knew.

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In 2007, Ben Butler was convicted of shaking six-week-old Ellie.

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That was quashed on a legal technicality and Ellie eventually

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The couple even went on television to complain of the injustice.

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It took to pretty much last month to clear my name completely.

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Jennie, had you ever any doubts about Ben?

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I think they're as difficult as any case that a judge

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Sir Mark Headly was one of the Appeal Court judges

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who quashed Ben Butler's 2007 criminal conviction

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He can't talk about that directly, but it was the family court that

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He's told the BBC that judges there faced the most

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They're decided in a highly emotive context.

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They're decided in circumstances where the judge has to make

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If you get it wrong, either way, there are very serious consequences.

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But in the family court, Mrs Justice Hogg went as far

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as to exonerate Ben Butler, saying it was her joy to return

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Until then, her maternal grandfather had looked after her.

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I always said to the Judge - one day you all may have blood

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on your hands with regards to my granddaughter,

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The court ordered that all files on the family,

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held by police, health, schools and social workers should

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clearly say that Ben Butler had been exonerated and the couple

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or their solicitor could serve that order on any professional

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At Ellie's school they found she was often absent

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and when challenged her parents were evasive.

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The head teacher says normally they would have

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There was no local authority involvement with Ellie

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because of the family court judgment from several years before.

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Therefore, all we do was treat the issue as an attendance issue.

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The official review into the case concludes that the court ruling gave

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Butler the upper hand, making it difficult for others

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to protect a little girl, described by her teachers

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A British man has been accused of trying to kill the presumptive US

:26:36.:26:46.

Republican presidential candidate, Donald Trump.

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Michael Sandford, who's 20 and from Dorking,

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is alleged to have tried to grab a police officer's gun at a Trump

:26:52.:26:54.

Our North America correspondent, James Cook, reports.

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Was this the rally when Donald Trump came close to death?

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A turn of the head gives just a hint that something is wrong.

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In the crowds, say prosecutors, this man.

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Michael Sanford was trying to wrestle a gun from a police

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The Secret Service say Mr Sanford told them he'd been planning

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to murder the Republican for a year, and expected to die

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He had reportedly come to the US to be with a girlfriend,

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but had ended up unemployed and living in his car having

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In Las Vegas yesterday, the 20-year-old appeared in court,

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giving no explanation for what happened at this hotel.

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Trembling and shackled, he made no plea and was refused bail.

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The day before the attack, Michael Sanford is alleged to have

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come here to this shooting range, a short distance from the hotel

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Apparently to learn how to fire a gun for the first time.

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In Michael Sanford's hometown of Dorking

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Friends and family spoke of a polite boys who like playing with robots.

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His father said his son was autistic with no interest at all

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He must have been blackmailed or put up to it, he said.

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I did know him very well, but he seemed sweet.

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It's not nice thinking that someone, you know, up the road from you has

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Donald Trump has been threatened on the campaign trail before.

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The presidential race of 2016 has been fringed with violence.

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Clashes are common, and many Americans are worried

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about where this election, and their country, is heading.

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The British astronaut, Tim Peake, has said he'd go back

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He was giving his first news conference after touching back down

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on earth on Saturday, after a six-month mission

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He also had this message for the hundreds of thousands

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of schoolchildren who've been following his trip: "You can do

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Our science editor, David Shukman, reports from Cologne.

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Smiling, relaxed and walking steadily at Europe's

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Tim Peake is making a rapid recovery from his time in space.

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And, if you did it again, what does your wife think of that?

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I would do it again in a heartbeat and I can say that happily

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because I've already spoke to my wife about it.

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Only three days ago, I watched his dramatic

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His body, weak from six months without weight,

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he was feeling dizzy, but he's now improving.

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Yeah, I'm feeling a lot better than I did on Saturday lunch

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So what was it like for him, hurtling down from space

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To look out the window and see earth approaching at 100 kilometers,

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in what looked like a fairly uncontrolled attitude,

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was really quite surprising and you really get a strong

:30:03.:30:05.

sensation that you are just falling

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He's always wanted his mission to inspire children and watching

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excited was his old school in West Sussex.

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You're looking at a boy who went to Westbourne Primary School,

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who left school at the age of 19, with three below-average A-levels,

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and I've just got back from a six month mission to space.

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So my message to them is - look, don't let anybody tell

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It's really exciting and we're really all really proud of him

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for what he's done and he's inspired us to all do what we want.

:30:41.:30:45.

It's been his dream since he was like our age.

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During his time in space, more than a million children took

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part in projects linked to his mission and many

:30:56.:30:58.

"Welcome home, Tim, how was it, mate?"

:30:59.:31:03.

Football and Northern Ireland have lost 1-0 to Germany

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But they have made it through to the final 16,

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Northern Ireland had its heart set on something special in Paris. Their

:31:20.:31:33.

romance of their story has made an impression. Win or draw against the

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world champions they will be certain of staying. Early on it became clear

:31:38.:31:42.

how difficult that would be. Michael McGovern was solid. If Michael

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O'Neill felt the noise was relentless, so was the pressure.

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Eventually something had to give. After half an hour. Gomis gave

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Germany the goal they deserved. Northern Ireland was almost

:31:59.:32:01.

mesmerised by their movement. Everyone except McGovern who got to

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this ball even as the net began to if flinch. Germany continued to be

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from yous sfrated as Northern Ireland gave every ounce of effort

:32:10.:32:13.

to hold on to a narrow defeat. We hung in there. We defended great.

:32:14.:32:17.

Michael had a fantastic night in goal. He's had a fantastic

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tournament. And, as I say, we have given ourself-a chance now of

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obviously getting the opportunity to play in the knock-out stages of the

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competition and I think what we've done over the three games we deserve

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that chance. O'Neill's side have come a long way in this tournament

:32:33.:32:37.

their fans fans, many who stayed behind after the final whistle,

:32:38.:32:42.

don't want this aventure to end it wasn't a fairytale upset it hasn't

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dampened the mood among the Northern Irish fans. It's not over yet. If

:32:48.:32:50.

results go their way they could join England and Wales in the lasts 16.

:32:51.:32:54.

These fans didn't have to wait long as the Czech Republic's failure to

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beat Turkey in the late kick-off sent Northern Ireland through.

:32:59.:33:01.

Another bit of history to celebrate. This is quite a remarkable

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achievement by Northern Ireland who began the tournament as 500-1

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outsiders. They defied the odds to join England and Wales in the last

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16. Ultimately, it was their goal difference that confirmed Thai

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progress this evening. For that they had to thank their goal cope, they

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will play either the hosts France in Lyon or Wales in Paris for a place

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in the quarter-finals. Katie, in Paris, thank you.

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Now, with more on the reaction to tonight's big EU debate

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Earlier on, we heard the reaction from some

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of the audience of 6,000 people, here at the Wembley Arena,

:33:45.:33:48.

who heard the Leave and Remain camps questioned about a range of issues

:33:49.:33:55.

including the economy, immigration and Britain's place in the world.

:33:56.:34:02.

But how did the debate go down in people's homes?

:34:03.:34:04.

Our home editor, Mark Easton, has been in Solihull this evening.

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In a showroom we have assembled a small group of west Midlanders who

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we first heard discussing the referendum back in early February

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before they had made their minds up. Yeah, this campaign began in the

:34:25.:34:27.

depths of winter. It will end in what should be the height of summer.

:34:28.:34:32.

We have invited our seasoned campaign watchers to judge the last

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of the big TV referendum debates and offer a view from the sofa. We

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encouraged our TV audience to respond to what they saw and heard.

:34:43.:34:49.

If you look at it, the stay campaign look the most credible people there.

:34:50.:34:55.

They look organised. They look, especially, Khan, he's like a good

:34:56.:34:58.

talker. He is a very good speaker to the public. Law school training. .

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Exactly. You think - law school training. You're trying to lie. The

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fact they have Boris Johnson up there, the way he looks, the way he

:35:09.:35:14.

presents himself. He pulls paper - He know what is he's talking about.

:35:15.:35:19.

He does look crazy. He should wash his hair. That is what people love

:35:20.:35:24.

about him. Our jury found itself swayed both ways as it listened to

:35:25.:35:28.

arguments about the economy and then immigration. If it was just about

:35:29.:35:32.

the immigration, leave. Leave because what's the point - It's

:35:33.:35:36.

massive part. I agree with that. Yes. If it was just about

:35:37.:35:40.

immigration. Why can't we stay, but say, right, we will stay -

:35:41.:35:44.

Negotiate. But we can't keep letting this many people in or. We need to

:35:45.:35:48.

vet the people that are coming in. They won't. The law states at the

:35:49.:35:52.

moment there has been freedom. Equal. One minute you think Steve,

:35:53.:35:59.

the next leave, our jury complained as the jury came to a close. You

:36:00.:36:04.

should have a third option. Sit on the fence. Like a tick box. I'll

:36:05.:36:08.

stay for that. Leave for that. Leave for that. War. If we need you.

:36:09.:36:17.

Otherwise we just don't need you. With just a day to go before the

:36:18.:36:21.

polls open, we asked our panel to conduct one final task. Come up with

:36:22.:36:27.

one word to describe the last five months of campaigning? Investment,

:36:28.:36:31.

contradicting, risky and scaremongering. The time for talking

:36:32.:36:36.

is nearly done, the time for a decision almost upon us. No-one

:36:37.:36:43.

knows which way it'll go. Mark Easton, BBC News.

:36:44.:36:50.

An interesting taste of the reaction there. One set, but lots to come.

:36:51.:37:01.

The kinds of issues that were causing challenges for the

:37:02.:37:03.

politicians on both sides, right at the start of the campaign, are still

:37:04.:37:06.

the ones causing challenges here this evening? They are. I think, in

:37:07.:37:11.

a sense, the campaign hasn't had one big transformational moment. There

:37:12.:37:15.

are three things that have run all the the way through. It's been bad

:37:16.:37:21.

tempered. Almost from day one, bad temper and more and more bruising as

:37:22.:37:27.

time went on. In terms of the arguments themselves, the main

:37:28.:37:30.

clashes have been the economy and on immigration. In terms ever beyond

:37:31.:37:34.

the politicians, those are the three things they have tangled up on time

:37:35.:37:38.

and time again. Something else, particularly has crept in, very

:37:39.:37:41.

importantly in the last couple of weeks. As the public have taken hold

:37:42.:37:44.

of this debate it's also really become more and more about identity.

:37:45.:37:49.

That, I think, is why, for so many people, this is such an important

:37:50.:37:53.

decision, but also such an agonising one. Another transition in the

:37:54.:37:58.

campaign, late on, we can't now say that people don't have a grasp of

:37:59.:38:02.

what's at stake because all along, in the Earl why I stages, people

:38:03.:38:04.

were debating about what this referendum was about. What's clear

:38:05.:38:08.

tonight, certainly from the questions and from some of the

:38:09.:38:11.

answers, we are now on the eve of the last day of campaigning, people

:38:12.:38:14.

realise what's at stake here. They do. It matters so much more than the

:38:15.:38:18.

careers of the politicians we have seen on the platform tonight or any

:38:19.:38:22.

other platform or any other debates throughout this campaign. You know,

:38:23.:38:26.

this isn't just about one decision. It's not just about one month, one

:38:27.:38:30.

year, one Prime Minister, one parliamentary term. This is a very

:38:31.:38:35.

rare thing. It's a democratic decision we're all being asked to

:38:36.:38:38.

make that will decide a lot for the country for decades to come. Our

:38:39.:38:41.

place in the world. What happens to the economy. What kind of country do

:38:42.:38:46.

we really want to be? This referendum, because of the scale of

:38:47.:38:50.

that question, has gone way beyond the traditional party lines, the

:38:51.:38:53.

traditional tribes we saw tonight people from different parties all

:38:54.:38:56.

mixing up and on different sides of the argument. In a sense, in a way

:38:57.:39:01.

that I think some politicians had under estimated would happen, the

:39:02.:39:04.

referendum has thrown all of British politics up in the air. We just

:39:05.:39:09.

don't know where it will land. But the people who decide where it will

:39:10.:39:13.

all land are not the people on the stage, it's every single one of us

:39:14.:39:16.

who will be putting our crosses in which ever box in the privacy of the

:39:17.:39:21.

polling Boot on Thursday. -- booth. One day of campaigning to go. We

:39:22.:39:26.

will find after that. We will. Laura Kuenssberg there our political

:39:27.:39:29.

editor. There that is all from Wembley. More analysis on Newsnight

:39:30.:39:34.

on BBC Two. Tomorrow morning the Prime Minister, David Cameron, and

:39:35.:39:37.

Boris Johnson will be questioned on BBC Breakfast. They won't be

:39:38.:39:41.

debating, they will be questioned separately on BBC Breakfast. Now on

:39:42.:39:44.

BBC One it's time for the news where you

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