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More than 2,000 migrants - removed from the camp in Calais -

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ahead of its demolition by the French authorities.

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They were taken away in buses to other centres in France,

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but many say they still hope to come to the UK.

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I am waiting for the UK, I will go to the UK. All the people leaving

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the Jungle, waiting two years, 15 months, 18 months.

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Among those still in the camp tonight, hundreds of children.

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Ministers say more will brought to the UK.

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We will continue to support the French government in the operation

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and we will continue with our progress in bringing those children

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with a right to come to the UK as quickly and as safely as possible.

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We'll have the latest from Calais, where the French authorities

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are intending to send in the bulldozers within days.

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The Prime Minister talks Brexit with leaders from Scotland,

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They're demanding a greater in say in negotiations.

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I don't want to see Scotland driven off a hard Brexit cliff edge because

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that would mean lost jobs, lost investments, lower living standards

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Five million people in England could have diabetes by the year 2035.

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A new report spells out the implications for the NHS.

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A visit to Kenya by the Government Minister who's threatening to cut

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aid funding unless there's better value for money.

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And: The evangelical Christians wrestling with the choice of

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Ben Stokes get the two wickets required to beat Bangladesh in the

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first test. Officials in Calais say that

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more than 2,000 people camp known as 'The Jungle'

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on the first day of the operation Many of them began queueing

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for buses before dawn, to be resettled in centres

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across France where they could face deportation, or have

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the opportunity to claim asylum. Some of the unaccompanied children

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are being brought to the UK. Our correspondent, Lucy Williamson,

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reports on the day's Hours standing in the cold

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a better bet than one more The reward - a seat

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on one of 60 buses. But a ticket out of Calais doesn't

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guarantee asylum, either And even those, like Madi,

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who are impatient to leave, I will go with the people,

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and maybe I come back I like France, but it's

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not my dream. Next to him, Abdou says he's

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finished with his dreams of England "They don't like people

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from the Jungle, and they closed People have been queueing

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here since 4am to board one of the buses bound for reception

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centres across France. Their motivation for coming

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here to Calais was once all about the final destination,

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their dreams of England. Now many are ready to go

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anywhere just to get out. Inside the processing centre,

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people are split into queues - the vulnerable, families,

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lone children, and everyone else. Their names, ages and origins

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noted, but not checked. They're given a choice

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of destination. French names in unfamiliar places,

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a new temporary address. Hours later, migrants began arriving

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at towns across France, watched warily by their

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new neighbours, here TRANSLATION: What are all these

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young men going to do President Hollande said he wanted

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to send a message that Calais was not a staging post

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for migrants, but a dead-end. Many here say that much

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is already clear. The UK has become harder to reach,

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and there was optimism today among some of those who've

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decided to leave. But a local MP told us that didn't

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mean Britain's role here was over. TRANSLATION: It's an international

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scandal that there are several hundred children,

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some as young as ten, stuck here, despite

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having family in the UK. Britain is not meeting

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its obligations. Among those joining the queues

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today were four siblings from Afghanistan, clinging

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to an English-speaking friend. Their mother had asked him to take

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her children and make their case Four small lives among the thousands

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saying goodbye to Calais, unsure of what the future

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has in store. Well, the interior Minister Bernhard

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Cazeneuve today has said how pleased he is today by how orderly this

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first day of the operation has been. But the biggest challenge may not be

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clearing the jungle but preventing more migrant camps from springing up

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in its place. Bernhard Cazeneuve says security forces will be kept in

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Calais to stop people returning, but this town has been a magnet for many

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years and there are a lot of people here who think that is not going to

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change just because the Jungle has gone.

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Thank you for the latest in Calais. The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd,

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has said that almost 200 children from the Calais camp have been

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brought to Britain so far, including 60 girls said to be

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at risk of sexual exploitation. They were resettled under the terms

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of the 'Dubs' amendment, named after the peer Lord Dubs,

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which applies to particularly vulnerable children who have

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no link with the UK. Our home affairs correspondent,

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Daniel Sandford, reports. Journey's and for one recent

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resident of the Calais Jungle, a takeaway in South London. This man

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who says he is 16 fled the fighting in Afghanistan and travelled

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overland and see for over a year. Last Monday, he was brought to

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Britain to join his uncle who owns the restaurant.

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He told me he was trying to forget everything that had happened to him,

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the difficulties and problems should go away soon now I am starting a new

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life, he said. Although some new arrivals will go into care or foster

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homes, he will stay with his relatives.

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I am here to be his mum, his dad, his brother and his sister, his

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friend. I will support him initially, that is what he needs.

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The Home Secretary updated the Commons on what Britain has done in

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the last fortnight in the build-up to the closure of the Jungle. We

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have transferred almost 200 children. This includes more than 60

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girls, many of whom had been identified as at high risk of sexual

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exploitation. They are receiving the care and support they need in the

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UK. She said hundreds more children from the Jungle had been interviewed

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and more would come to the UK in the coming weeks. These were some of the

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arrivals from Calais last week. The Home Office pays local authorities

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up to ?40,000 per child, but council said the true cost is sometimes much

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more. Here at a discreet location in Devon, 20 of the recently arrived

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boys are staying at a respite centre while decisions are made about

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whether they go into care or join family members. The local reaction

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is mixed. It is not they're doing, it is not their fault. I have got a

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little chap of my own and you want any child to be safe. If we have got

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the ability to do that, why not? Send them back with -- where they

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come from, it is not our problem, we cannot look after our own so why

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everybody else? It is disgusting. Back in London, Harris is desperate

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to return to education after his time in the Jungle and he has his

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first meeting with immigration officials tomorrow as he starts the

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formal process of claiming refugee status in Britain.

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For the first time since the referendum result in June,

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the First Ministers of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland

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have attended a meeting in Downing Street, to discuss

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the Government's plans for leaving the European Union and to ask

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Nicola Sturgeon, the First Minister of Scotland, said the meeting had

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Theresa May asked them not to undermine the Government's

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Our Scotland editor, Sarah Smith, reports.

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The United Kingdom voted as a whole to leave the EU,

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but Brexit is seen very differently in each of the four

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Northern Ireland also voted to stay in.

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Whilst Welsh, like English voters, chose to leave.

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But the leaders of the devolved nations all want the PM to listen

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They are highly sceptical about promises of a hotline

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to the Brexit Secretary, David Davis.

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They're after a seat at the table when the real

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Nicola Sturgeon wants full membership of the EU single market

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for Scotland and new powers for the Scottish Parliament,

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threatening to call a second referendum on independence

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The Prime Minister thinks you're bluffing about a second independence

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referendum, that you wouldn't dare do it, and that therefore,

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she doesn't have to listen to you on it.

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Well, there is nothing about what I'm doing just

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This is not a game, it's not a game of Chicken,

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I am absolutely serious when I say that I will do whatever it takes

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Nicola Sturgeon says she found today's meeting

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She came here with a clear set of demands - to keep Scotland

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She's not convinced the Prime Minister was listening.

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But they share the demand to be part of the negotiations.

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I think what's important for us is that we're involved very much

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in the heart of that process, so that when issues arise

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during the negotiations, that we can be part of answering

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No-one seemed to leave the meeting with a clearer idea

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What we need more than anything else is greater certainty

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from the UK Government as to what exactly the principles

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From Downing Street to Parliament, where the Prime Minister rejected

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suggestions she is driving towards a hard Brexit.

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Will she concede that her anti-EU rhetoric and her talking up

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of a hard Brexit over the last month has been deeply irresponsible?

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The premise of his question is a false one because he talks

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about the hard Brexit that the Government is going

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There is no suggestion of that whatsoever.

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What we're very...

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No, that's because the right honourable gentleman seems to think

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that all of these matters are binary decisions, between either you're

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able to control immigration or you have some sort

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The Prime Minister is committed to keeping the UK together

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and leaving the EU together, but how she does that could strain

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In Brussels, the future of a major trade deal

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between the European Union and Canada - seven

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years in the making - is still in doubt tonight.

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The multi-billion-dollar agreement was supposed to be signed

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by all member states by the end of the week.

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But Belgium can't sign because three of its main regions,

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including Wallonia, are refusing to agree.

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They want stronger safeguards on labour, environmental

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Let's join our Europe correspondent, Damian Grammaticas, in Brussels.

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Is it your sense that there is any prospect of this deal being signed

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before the end of the week? This is the most significant, most ambitious

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trade deal that the EU has ever tried to sign and tonight, it is in

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the balance whether they will get it done as expected by Thursday this

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week. The Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has the fly here, we

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do not know if he will, he could put that off. And the reason, Belgium

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can only sign if its regions agree as well and Wallonia, the Southern

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French speaking half of Belgium, is refusing. The socialist

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administration wants to protect jobs and is worried this deal does more

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for big businesses. So critics will say that this is yet another example

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of how the EU is dysfunctional, the UK is better off out. Others will

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look at it and said this is a warning for the UK. When it is

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trying to negotiate its own deal, there could be some major hurdles

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ahead. And there is one of the reason to worry. There are concerns

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that the difficulties getting this through, could also have a chilling

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effect on investment in the UK. Outside investors look at what the

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UK wants to achieve and conclude it is going to be very difficult and it

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will take a long time, and that might reduce the likelihood of

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investing in UK businesses. Thank you very much. The latest in

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Brussels. In Iraq, government forces have

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fought their way into two villages near Mosul,

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as the campaign to eject so-called Islamic State from the city

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enters its second week. IS have been carrying out more

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attacks in other parts of Iraq, including a major assault last week

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on the northern city of Kirkuk, in which up

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to 100 people were killed. Our correspondent Shaimaa Khalil has

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been speaking to some students in Kirkuk, who were caught

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in the university buildings They were a group of students

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planning a weekend of fun. Instead, they were woken up

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by a blast and spent a day under heavy gunfire,

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hiding under their beds, IS militants struck

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near their dormitory in Kirkuk. Priests in Irbil helped them escape,

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but the girls are too We were told there was going to be

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a strike in the building next to ours because IS

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militants were there. We all gathered in one room

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and hid under the beds, two girls under each bed,

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with blankets and bedsheets so the shrapnel and broken glass

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wouldn't hurt us. Five minutes later, we heard four

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or five men come in. It was dark so we couldn't see

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them and they couldn't see us, but we knew

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they were IS fighters They were making phone calls

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and asking for more ammunition. Tell me what it was like

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when you were under that bed with IS fighters sitting

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on it, talking. I was trying not to make any sound,

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not to breathe even. I kept telling myself,

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stay strong, get through this. I just held my friend's hand

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and we kept praying. One of them tells me

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she could still hear the wounded "His voice is still

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ringing in my ear." Another one told me

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she felt this was the end. TRANSLATION: The situation

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was so bad that I wanted to call my family to say goodbye

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and ask forgiveness for any Despite the horrors they faced,

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the girls say they want to go back Our faith is strong, they say.

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It's stronger than IS. Health experts are warning that

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a rise in the number of people suffering from diabetes in England

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threatens to bankrupt the NHS. New figures from Public Health

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England suggest that five million people will have the disease

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by 2035 - most of them with Type 2 diabetes,

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which is closely linked to lifestyle The cost of treating the condition

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and the complications that can come with it is predicted to rise

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sharply, as our health correspondent This is the human cost

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of Type 2 diabetes. Aged just 47, Ghassan Hassan

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is a few hours away from having Diabetes caused nerve damage

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and poor circulation, and now an infection

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threatens his life. If I'd done everything right

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from the time I was diagnosed with the diabetes,

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I would be OK by now. The tragedy is, this life-changing

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operation was entirely avoidable. Type 2 diabetes is linked to weight

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gain and a poor diet, and if the condition

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is managed badly, When he was first diagnosed,

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Mr Hassan never imagined that it would come to this,

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that one day, he would lose a leg. But diabetics are also

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at risk of blindness, kidney failure, even

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premature death. In England alone in 2015,

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there were nearly four million But new figures from

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Public Health England predict that if obesity rates continue to grow,

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by 2035 the figure could have leapt Across the UK, the NHS currently

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spends around 10% of its entire But the most recent analysis

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predicts that figure could rise There's a real risk that the cost

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of managing and providing the right level of support and care for people

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with diabetes will bankrupt the NHS So we have to really understand how

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we tackle this issue. I developed Type 2 diabetes

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by having a sweet tooth, mostly. 16-year-old Aisha is one

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of a small - but growing - number of children who are also

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developing the disease. Cutting out those sweets

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and fizzy drinks has But you have to keep

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changing your diet plan to whatever it is and also keeping

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fit and healthy. More exercise, less sugar in foods

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popular with children, and attacks on those sugary drinks

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Aisha used to love were all key to the Government's

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recent obesity strategy. Many health experts argued it should

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have gone further, but agree Staying healthy will require

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a lifetime's work for Aisha. And a few days after his operation,

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Ghassan Hassan is urging others Diabetes, now I know how very

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horrible disease, nasty disease. You need to be careful

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of everything. Mr Hassan's was one of 140

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amputations linked to diabetes The personal and financial

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cost of this disease The government is ready

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to cut funding to big multinational aid projects,

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unless they provide More than ?4 billion of British aid

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goes to global organisations On her first visit to Africa

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since she was appointed International Development Secretary,

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Priti Patel told the BBC she wanted to use the aid budget to help pave

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the way for trade deals. She was speaking to our diplomatic

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correspondent James This is how humanitarian aid

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is delivered these days. Not with a bag of flour or rice,

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but via a payment card that gives Hard cash from the British taxpayer

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that allows them to buy the food It is the International Development

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Secretary who ultimately And we travelled with Priti Patel

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as she visited Kenya for the first Seeing what some of her ?12 billion

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budget is supporting on the ground. This might look like a familiar

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scene - British International Development Secretary

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seeing how British aid But this is a bit different,

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because in the past Priti Patel has So the question is, what's

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she going to do differently? We have to make sure that our aid

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works in our national interest, and also that it

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works for our taxpayers. Much more openness,

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much more transparency, And her targets are the big

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multinational aid organisations that She's about to publish

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a review of their work, and she told me that if they don't

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meet new performance targets by spending better and wasting less,

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she'll cut off their funding. The government's approach

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is focused on ensuring that we drive taxpayer value,

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so when it comes to multilateral organisations - focus

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on performance agreements. If they are not performing then

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obviously we will look at the contributions

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we give to them. The sort of agencies she's talking

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about are the World Bank and the EU, They spend 40% of Britain's aid

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budget - more than ?4.5 billion. On the one hand, they can spend

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money on a large scale with real impact in refugee camps like this

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one in northern Kenya. But on the other hand,

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some can also waste money, too. In the port of Mombasa is another

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side of the story, where British aid is being given

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directly to boost The kind of bilateral aid that

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Ms Patel wants to use to secure new trade deals and make new allies

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in the World Trade Organisation that British soft power is exactly

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where DFID and our aid and other relationships around the world can

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come together to deliver in our national interests

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and deliver for Britain when it comes to free trade arrangements,

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free trade agreements, The question is whether her reforms

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will genuinely change Britain's aid spending or merely rebrand it

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with new targets For women and children like these,

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the answer will matter. James Landale, BBC

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News, Northern Kenya. A man has been found guilty

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of murdering the Oxford book dealer Adrian Greenwood during the theft

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of a first edition of the Wind in Michael Danaher had drawn up a list

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of wealthy targets, including Early tomorrow morning,

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the Prime Minister will chair a meeting to make a decision

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on airport expansion The choice is between Europe's

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busiest airport, Heathrow, And Gatwick, some 30 miles

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south of London. Some of the main opponents

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of Heathrow have included the Foreign Secretary,

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Boris Johnson. But the ministerial decision

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won't be the end of the matter. Our business editor Simon Jack

:24:07.:24:08.

is at Heathrow tonight. Is there any doubt about the

:24:09.:24:19.

ministerial preference? The government are saying this is not a

:24:20.:24:22.

done deal but the reason I'm at Heathrow, and you can see terminal

:24:23.:24:27.

five behind me, is it to be fair to say it would be a major surprise if

:24:28.:24:30.

the government doesn't give the green light to a third runway here

:24:31.:24:35.

at Heathrow. Sir Howard Davies, tasked with looking at the options

:24:36.:24:39.

for the government reiterated just this morning his preference for this

:24:40.:24:43.

being the overwhelming favourite. It's not the easiest, some 800 homes

:24:44.:24:55.

will have to be demolished. It will divide the Conservative Party, as

:24:56.:24:57.

you said in your introduction. It's not the cheapest, at ?18 billion,

:24:58.:24:59.

it's almost twice as expensive as the Gatwick option. But the reason

:25:00.:25:03.

Heathrow is the favourite, it gives you more economic bang for your

:25:04.:25:08.

buck, in terms of jobs, and a boost to GDP. In a post-Brexit world where

:25:09.:25:11.

we need to foster relations with other parts of the world outside the

:25:12.:25:16.

EU, Heathrow is the only one that can do this. As you say, it's not

:25:17.:25:19.

the end of the matter. We will have a committee decision tomorrow,

:25:20.:25:26.

debated at Cabinet, but the final decision will not be made until the

:25:27.:25:29.

end of next year. Plenty of time for opponents to air their grievances. A

:25:30.:25:32.

lot of people say it's an unwelcome delay, but the government is saying

:25:33.:25:36.

just like Hinkley Point, they want to kick the tires, and take the

:25:37.:25:39.

decision that has eluded previous governments. After decades of delay,

:25:40.:25:44.

a decision will be made tomorrow. Thank you for the update, Simon Jack

:25:45.:25:45.

at Heathrow. The allegations of sexual misconduct

:25:46.:25:48.

surrounding the Republican US presidential candidate Donald Trump

:25:49.:25:50.

are proving an obstacle But there's one group

:25:51.:25:52.

for whom the headlines have been They belong to the powerful network

:25:53.:25:56.

of America's Christian Last month, polls suggested that

:25:57.:25:59.

more than 70% of white evangelical Christians were supporting

:26:00.:26:04.

the Trump campaign. Our correspondent Aleem Maqbool has

:26:05.:26:07.

been to Virginia to see if that It's the homecoming parade

:26:08.:26:10.

at the biggest Christian Students past and present are coming

:26:11.:26:18.

together this year in the midst But in this often theatrical battle,

:26:19.:26:23.

all indications are the vast majority of evangelical Christians

:26:24.:26:31.

have already made up Faith and principles

:26:32.:26:35.

are very important to me. As it is to everybody

:26:36.:26:45.

here at Liberty. But I think it's one thing to keep

:26:46.:26:51.

in mind that we're not electing a pastor, we're electing somebody

:26:52.:26:54.

who's going to get the country back You don't feel uncomfortable voting

:26:55.:26:57.

for a man who has bragged about, you know, sleeping with married

:26:58.:27:01.

women in the past, and you've heard what he had to say

:27:02.:27:05.

on the tape as well? Here at Liberty we believe

:27:06.:27:07.

in the power of forgiveness. So much so, that the university's

:27:08.:27:15.

president, one of America's most influential evangelical

:27:16.:27:18.

Christian leaders, has firmly That's not something all

:27:19.:27:21.

the students here are happy about. I think it's hypocritical

:27:22.:27:28.

of Christian leaders to not condemn some of the disgusting things

:27:29.:27:31.

he's done, and not say, this is not a man we

:27:32.:27:34.

want to get behind. If you are tying yourself up closely

:27:35.:27:37.

with Donald Trump, you're probably Polls say around 70% of evangelical

:27:38.:27:40.

Christians, like those at a mega-church down the road

:27:41.:27:49.

from the university, The reason for many,

:27:50.:27:51.

is the priority of having a president who's anti-abortion

:27:52.:28:01.

and who appoints judges If I'm given two choices,

:28:02.:28:02.

I don't have any choice And the reason is because he's

:28:03.:28:06.

pro-life. And also because of

:28:07.:28:12.

the Supreme Court issue. This is not a four or eight-year

:28:13.:28:15.

problem. This could be a 30 year issue,

:28:16.:28:17.

and to me, that's why, above all else, my vote has to go

:28:18.:28:20.

in the direction of Donald Trump. But that, for this pastor

:28:21.:28:30.

and the nearly one fifth of US voters who are evangelical, means

:28:31.:28:33.

setting aside a lot of troubling Aleem Maqbool, BBC News

:28:34.:28:37.

in Lynchburg, Virginia. The singer Pete Burns -

:28:38.:28:47.

who rose to fame as part of the New Romantic pop movement

:28:48.:28:50.

of the early 1980s - has died of a cardiac

:28:51.:28:52.

arrest at the age of 57. Burns had a UK Number One

:28:53.:29:00.

and worldwide hit with Dead or Alive In later life he was know for his

:29:01.:29:03.

struggles with his appearance - he once said cosmetic surgery

:29:04.:29:10.

for him was a matter One of the most influential rock

:29:11.:29:13.

albums of all time - The Velvet Underground and Nico -

:29:14.:29:21.

was released in 1967, And for the 50th anniversary next

:29:22.:29:24.

year, John Cale - one of the founding bandmembers -

:29:25.:29:29.

will, for the first time in the UK, The performance will take

:29:30.:29:32.

place in Liverpool. Our entertainment correspondent

:29:33.:29:35.

Colin Paterson has been to meet him. MUSIC: Sunday Morning

:29:36.:29:44.

by The Velvet Underground. The Velvet Underground and Nico -

:29:45.:29:49.

one of the most influential We were living in an apartment

:29:50.:29:52.

on the Lower East Side, it was a Sunday morning,

:29:53.:30:05.

and it was after a late-night. The Welsh musician, John Cale,

:30:06.:30:08.

is known for looking forward, but thinks it's right

:30:09.:30:22.

to acknowledge the album's 50th anniversary next year and,

:30:23.:30:25.

for the first time ever in the UK, It still encapsulates everything

:30:26.:30:28.

that we were trying to do, which was take rock 'n' roll

:30:29.:30:35.

in a different direction, and talk about subject

:30:36.:30:37.

matter that generally John Cale formed the Velvet

:30:38.:30:40.

Underground with Lou Reed. The artist Andy Warhol

:30:41.:30:49.

was their manager and created He called me over in the corner

:30:50.:30:52.

and said, "What do you think And I went crazy, I said,

:30:53.:31:00.

"I've got to say, this has got all your colours,

:31:01.:31:05.

all the outlines, all, you know, all the brand

:31:06.:31:07.

of Andy Warhol is right there." It's three years this week

:31:08.:31:10.

since Lou Reed died. Well, his work survives,

:31:11.:31:13.

and all the stuff that we did together, it's still there

:31:14.:31:19.

and it's still strong. MUSIC: I'm Waiting For The Man

:31:20.:31:22.

by The Velvet Underground. And the reason John Cale has opted

:31:23.:31:26.

for the one-off gig to take place in Liverpool -

:31:27.:31:29.

the influence the city's music scene I had one eye on John Lennon,

:31:30.:31:31.

and Lou had one eye on Bob Dylan. Who's gonna make...

:31:32.:31:36.

What's the next one going to be? So, you're like trying

:31:37.:31:44.

to figure out where we fit. MUSIC: Venus In Furs

:31:45.:31:47.

by The Velvet Underground. And 50 years on, it's a question

:31:48.:31:50.

he's still asking. Nicola Sturgeon wants Scotland to

:31:51.:32:10.

have a different Brexit to that of England. Maybe London could have a

:32:11.:32:13.

different one to Leeds. Could that really work? We will be

:32:14.:32:17.

investigating the practicalities, join me on BBC Two right now and

:32:18.:32:20.

11pm in Scotland.

:32:21.:32:21.

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