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Welcome. In just a few minutes, it will bring you the third and final | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
live televised debate between the two candidates for the presidency | :00:29. | :00:39. | |
of the US. It is coming from a university in Florida. It will be | :00:39. | :00:43. | |
moderated by a veteran journalist. It will be focused on foreign | :00:43. | :00:49. | |
policy. Each candidate will outline how they think the US should act | :00:49. | :00:56. | |
abroad. It is a 90-minute debate. And 615 minutes segments. The | :00:56. | :01:02. | |
topics are: America's role in the world, the country's longest war it | :01:02. | :01:10. | |
- Afghanistan, Pakistan, Israel and Iran, the changing Middle East, the | :01:10. | :01:17. | |
new face of terrorism, and the rise of China. | :01:17. | :01:22. | |
This is your fourth US presidential election campaign. You know how | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
this works. Foreign policy does not figure into the top five of most | :01:28. | :01:34. | |
voters' concerns. The economy is at the top. But people do care about | :01:34. | :01:39. | |
the character of their Commander- in-Chief. They did. The American | :01:39. | :01:45. | |
President is an elected official. He is the ceremonial head of state. | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
He is the Commander-in-Chief. They want to know that the person who is | :01:49. | :01:54. | |
leading the world's largest military is a strong, decisive, | :01:54. | :01:58. | |
clear in what his vision is for America. That is what Barack Obama | :01:58. | :02:05. | |
is going to try and save. He will say this is what I have achieved in | :02:05. | :02:10. | |
deep four years. He was the guy that got a Osama Bin Laden. It has | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
given him the lead in the polls when it comes to national security. | :02:15. | :02:21. | |
Mitt Romney's job is to say that he is not as strong as he should be. | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
He has apologised to foreign leaders. You're thinking about | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
cutting defence payments. And that he would make a stronger and more | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
decisive Commander-in-Chief. Those are the battle lines in which that | :02:33. | :02:38. | |
debate will be fought. The words pivotal and crucial are being used | :02:38. | :02:44. | |
in the media about this debate. You would not normally hear about that. | :02:44. | :02:49. | |
The first one transformed Mitt Romney's campaign. Tiny slips can | :02:49. | :02:55. | |
matter. They can give momentum or plant it. Before the Oyster Bay | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
season, I probably would have said you that presidential debates do | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
not sway opinion polls very much. They did not have much impact on | :03:04. | :03:09. | |
how the election turns out. The last when that people talk about is | :03:09. | :03:17. | |
the 1980 debate between President Carter and Ronald Reagan. This year, | :03:17. | :03:23. | |
it has been different. That first debate was seen as critical. Up | :03:23. | :03:29. | |
until then, Barack Obama had been ahead in the polls. He gave a bad | :03:29. | :03:33. | |
performance during the first debate in Denver. Since then, Mitt Romney | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
has been closing in all of the polls. The National and the | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
important swing state polls. It is a year where debates are really | :03:42. | :03:48. | |
have mattered. They have had record high audiences. Even though it is | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
about foreign policies and most Americans say they are interested | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
in the state of the economy, we are expecting a big viewing audience. | :03:56. | :04:01. | |
You have raised this question in much of your coverage. This | :04:01. | :04:05. | |
campaign has been going on for two years. Many people have already | :04:05. | :04:11. | |
voted. Despite our talk of these few swing states, you have to | :04:11. | :04:18. | |
wonder how many undecided voters there can be. It seems remarkable. | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
We have had an election campaign for at least two years with that | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
really long primary season. We had hundreds of millions of dollars | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
spent on television advertising which the poor people in the swing | :04:31. | :04:36. | |
states have seen ad nauseam. But some people have not made their | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
minds up. Will this be the moment? Would this be the 90 minutes to | :04:40. | :04:46. | |
give them a decision? Or will they just be ticking a box at the toss | :04:46. | :04:55. | |
of a coroner at the very end? There are still some undecided voters. | :04:55. | :05:01. | |
These men will be trying to win those voters over. There are only | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
eight or nine states which will decide this election. The majority | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
of the people have already committed. There is a very fair and | :05:12. | :05:19. | |
a sliver of people within those debates. A very tiny proportion of | :05:19. | :05:29. | |
Just waiting for the two can do dates to come out. Just briefly, | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
you would generally think that a sitting president would have the | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
edge in a foreign policy debate, but really, there is a lot to play | :05:35. | :05:42. | |
for. That is the interest. who got Osama Bin Laden. How many | :05:42. | :05:48. | |
times holiday do he him say that tonight. That is his trump card. | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
Here we go. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney for their final presidential | :05:51. | :06:01. | |
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Gentlemen, your campaigns have agreed to certain rules and they | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
are simple. They have asked me to divide the evening into segments. | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
By will pose a question at the beginning of each segment. You will | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
each have two minutes to respond and then we will have a general | :06:30. | :06:37. | |
discussion until we move to the next segment. Tonight's debate | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
comes on the 50th anniversary of the night President Kennedy told | :06:41. | :06:47. | |
the world that the Soviet government had installed nuclear | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
missiles in Cuba. It was the closest we have ever come to | :06:51. | :06:56. | |
nuclear war. It is a sobering reminder that every President faces | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
an unexpected threat to our national security from abroad. The | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
first segment is a challenge of a changing Middle East and the new | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
face of terrorism. I will put this into two segments. You'll have to | :07:10. | :07:16. | |
top the questions within the one segment. -- two topic questions. | :07:16. | :07:25. | |
The first question concerns Libya. The controversy over what happened | :07:25. | :07:31. | |
there continues. For Max American added -- four Americans are dead, | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
including the ambassador. Was it spontaneous, was it a policy | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
failure? Was then attempt to mislead people about what really | :07:39. | :07:44. | |
happened? Governor Romney, you said this was an example of an American | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
policy in the Middle East that is unravelling. I would like to hear | :07:49. | :07:54. | |
each of you give your thoughts on that. Governor Romney, you won the | :07:54. | :08:02. | |
toss, you go first. They expect to the university for welcoming us | :08:02. | :08:12. | |
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here tonight and Mr President is good to be with you again. This is | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
obviously an area of great concern to the entire world and to America | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
in particular, which is to see a complete change in the structure | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
and the environment of the Middle East. With the Arab Spring came a | :08:27. | :08:31. | |
great deal of hope that there would be a change toward more moderation | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
and opportunity for greater participation on the part of women | :08:35. | :08:41. | |
in public life and in economic life in the Middle East. Instead we have | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
seen in nation after nation a number of disturbing events. We see | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
30,000 civilians killed in so really -- in Syria by the | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
Government. In the beer, we see an attack apparently by a terrorists | :08:55. | :09:03. | |
of some kind against Dow people there. -- in Libya. Mali has been | :09:03. | :09:09. | |
taken over by Al-Qaeda type individuals. In Egypt we have a | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
Muslim Brotherhood president and what we are seeing is a pretty | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
dramatic reversal in the kind of Pope's we had for that region. The | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
greatest threat of all is Iran. Four years closer to a nuclear | :09:21. | :09:29. | |
weapon. We have to recognise that - I congratulate the President of | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
going after Osama Bin Laden and taking up the leadership of Al- | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
Qaeda, but we cannot kill away 80 business. We have to put in place a | :09:36. | :09:46. | |
Brew Bar strategy to reject the violent radicalism which is | :09:46. | :09:51. | |
certainly not on the run. It is not hiding. This is a group that is | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
involved in 10 or 12 countries. It presents an enormous threat to our | :09:55. | :10:00. | |
friends, to the world and to America. We must have a | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
comprehensive strategy to help reject this kind of extremism. | :10:03. | :10:08. | |
President. My first job as Commander In Chief is to keep the | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
American people safe. That is what we have done over the past four | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
years. We ended the war in Iraq, and focused attention on those who | :10:16. | :10:21. | |
actually killed us on 9/11. As a consequence Al-Qaeda's core | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
leadership has been decimated. In addition we are now able to | :10:25. | :10:30. | |
transition out of Afghanistan in a responsible way, making sure that | :10:30. | :10:37. | |
Afghan state responsibility for their own security. That allows us | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
to rebuild alliances and bake friends around the world to combat | :10:42. | :10:51. | |
future threat. In respect to Libya, when we received the phone call, I | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
immediately made sure that we did everything we could to secure those | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
Americans who were still in harm's way. Secondly, we wanted to | :10:59. | :11:04. | |
investigate exactly what happened and finally, we would go after | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
those who killed Americans and we would bring them to justice. That | :11:07. | :11:12. | |
is exactly what we are going to do. It is imported to step back and | :11:12. | :11:16. | |
think about what happened in Libya. Keeping mind that I, and Americans, | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
took leadership in organising an international coalition that made | :11:21. | :11:27. | |
sure that we were able to, without putting troops on the ground and at | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
the cost of this the more we spent in two weeks in Iraq, liberate a | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
country that had been under dictatorship for 40 years. We got | :11:35. | :11:41. | |
rid of a despot who do it -- Despard who had killed Americans. | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
Despite the tragedy, there were tens of dozens of Libyans marching | :11:45. | :11:52. | |
and saying, America is our friend. -- tens of thousands. That | :11:52. | :11:58. | |
represents the opportunity we have to take advantage of. I am glad | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
that you agree that we have been successful in going after Al-Qaeda. | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
I have to tell you that your strategy previously has been one | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
that's all over the map. It is not designed to keep American safe or | :12:10. | :12:15. | |
to build on the opportunities that exist in the Middle East. | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
strategy is pretty straightforward, which is to go after the bad guys | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
and make sure we do our very best to interrupt them, to kill them, to | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
take them out of the picture. My strategy is broader than that. That | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
is important, of course, but the key that we are going to have to | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
pursue is a pathway to get the Muslim world to be able to reject | :12:34. | :12:39. | |
extremism on its own. We do not want another Iraq or Afghanistan. | :12:39. | :12:45. | |
rus. The right course is to go after the people who are the | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
leaders of the various groups, but also helped the Muslim world. How | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
do we do that? A group of Arab scholars came together to look at | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
how we can help the world reject these terrorists. The answer they | :12:59. | :13:08. | |
came up with was this, we should keep their foreign aid to make sure | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
that we pus that we pusd give them more economic development. Number | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
two, better education. Number three, gender equality. Number four, the | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
rule of law. We have to help these nations create civil societies. | :13:21. | :13:25. | |
What has been happening over the past few years is as we have | :13:25. | :13:30. | |
watched this rising tide of chaos occurred you see Al-Qaeda rushing | :13:30. | :13:36. | |
in. You see other groups rushing in. They are throughout many nations in | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
the Middle East. It is wonderful that Libya seems to be making some | :13:39. | :13:47. | |
tragedy, but next all we have Egypt. Egypt has 80 million people. We | :13:47. | :13:56. | |
want to make sure that we are throughout the Middle East. With | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
Syria having Bashar al-Assad continue to kill his own people. | :13:59. | :14:09. | |
This is a region into malt. Let's give the President a chance. I am | :14:09. | :14:11. | |
glad that you recognise the Al- Qaeda is a threat because a few | :14:11. | :14:19. | |
months ago when you ask what is the America you said Russia. Not Al- | :14:19. | :14:24. | |
Qaeda. The Qaeda. The o ask for their foreign policy back. The | :14:24. | :14:30. | |
Cold War has been over for 20 years. When it comes to a foreign policy, | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
like the social policies of the 1950s and the economic policies of | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
the 1920s. You say that you're not interested in duplicating what | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
happened in Iraq, but just a few weeks ago you said that you think | :14:46. | :14:51. | |
we should have more troops Iraq right now. The challenge we have, I | :14:51. | :14:54. | |
know you have not been in a position to actually execute | :14:54. | :14:59. | |
foreign policy, but every time you have offered an opinion, you have | :14:59. | :15:05. | |
been wrong. You said we should have that there were no weapons of mass | :15:05. | :15:08. | |
destruction. You said that we should still have troops in Iraq to | :15:08. | :15:15. | |
this day. You indicated that we should not be passing nuclear | :15:15. | :15:21. | |
treaties with Russia, despite the fact that 71 senators, democrats | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
and Republicans, voted for it. He had said that first we should not | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
have a timeline in Afghanistan, then you should -- that you said we | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
should. Now you say may be, or it depends. It means not only are you | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
wrong, but you're all so confusing and sending mixed messages. What we | :15:39. | :15:44. | |
need to do with respect to the Middle East is strong, steady | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
leadership, not wrong and reckless leadership that's all over the map. | :15:49. | :15:54. | |
Unfortunately that is the kind of opinions that you have offered to | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
this campaign and it is not a recipe for American strength or | :15:57. | :16:02. | |
keeping America safe. I will add a couple of minutes to give you a | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
chance to respond. I do not concur with what the President said about | :16:06. | :16:13. | |
my own record and the things I I can say this - we are talking about | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
the Middle East and had to help the Middle East reject the kind of | :16:17. | :16:23. | |
terrorism we are seeing. Attacking me is not an agenda. Attacking me | :16:23. | :16:27. | |
is not talking about how we will deal with the challenge is that | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
exist in the Middle-Eastern take advantage of the opportunity there. | :16:31. | :16:37. | |
I will respond to a couple of things you mention. Russia | :16:37. | :16:44. | |
indicated is a geopolitical foe, and I said in the same paragraph | :16:44. | :16:48. | |
that Iran is the greatest national security threat we face. Russia | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
does continue to battle last in the UN time and time again. I have | :16:52. | :16:58. | |
clear rise on this. I am certainly not going to say to Mr Putin that | :16:58. | :17:04. | |
I'll give him more flexibility after the election. Number two, | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
with regards to Iraq, you and I agreed that they should have been a | :17:08. | :17:14. | |
Status of forces Agreement. What I would not have done is that 10,000 | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
us in the Middle East. There was an effort on the part of the President | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
to have a status of forces that the agreement and I concurred in that. | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
I said there should be a number of troops that stayed on. Governor... | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
That was my posture as well. You thought it should have been five | :17:34. | :17:40. | |
dozen troops. I thought it should have been more. -- 5,000. Just a | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
few weeks ago you indicated that we should still have troops in Iraq. | :17:43. | :17:49. | |
No I didn't. I indicated that you fail to put in place a status of | :17:49. | :17:55. | |
forces Agreement at the end of the conflict. Here is one thing I have | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
learned as Commanding in Chief. You have to be clear. Birth to our | :17:58. | :18:05. | |
allies and their enemies. The new just gave a speech a few weeks ago | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
in which you said we should still have drooped -- troops in Iraq. | :18:10. | :18:16. | |
That is not a recipe to make sure we are taking advantage of | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
opportunities in the Middle East. It is absolutely true that we | :18:19. | :18:25. | |
cannot just be these challenges know it -- militarily what I have | :18:25. | :18:27. | |
done throughout my presidency and continue to do is number one, | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
making sure these countries are supporting how counter-terrorism | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
efforts. Number two, make sure they are standing by interests and | :18:36. | :18:42. | |
Israel's security. We do have to make sure we are protecting | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
religious minorities and women because these countries cannot | :18:45. | :18:51. | |
develop Armas all the population, not just half of it, is developing | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
with it. We have to develop their economic capabilities, but number | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
five, the other thing we have to do is recognise that we cannot | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
continue to do nation-building in these regions. Part of American | :19:03. | :19:08. | |
leadership is making sure we are doing nation-building at home. That | :19:08. | :19:18. | |
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will help us maintain the kind of Let me interject the second topic | :19:18. | :19:23. | |
question and that he is, you both alluded to this, and that is Syria. | :19:23. | :19:29. | |
The war in Syria has spilled over in the banana. More than 100 people | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
were killed there in a barn. There were demonstrations there, eight | :19:32. | :19:38. | |
people dead. It has been more than one years since he told President | :19:38. | :19:44. | |
Assad he had to go. There'd 1,000 Syrians have died. 300,000 refugees, | :19:44. | :19:54. | |
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the war goes on. -- 30,000 Syrians. What we have done is organise the | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
International Committee, saying President Assad has ago. We have | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
mobilised sanctions against a government. We have made sure they | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
are isolated. We are providing humanitarian assistance and we are | :20:15. | :20:25. | |
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helping the organisation. Syria will have to determine their own | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
future. Everything we're doing we're doing in consultation with | :20:31. | :20:36. | |
our partners which include Israel. We are co-ordinating with Turkey | :20:36. | :20:41. | |
and other countries in the region that have a great interest in this. | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
What is taking place in Syria is heartbreaking. That is why we are | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
going to do everything we can to help the Opposition. But we also | :20:49. | :20:56. | |
have to recognise that for us to get more entangled in Syria is a | :20:56. | :21:02. | |
serious step. We have to do so, making absolutely certain winner | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
who we're helping and that we're not putting arms in the hands of | :21:06. | :21:15. | |
folks who can turn them against us all -- or allies in the region. I | :21:15. | :21:25. | |
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am confident that per the Assad's days are numbered. -- President. | :21:29. | :21:34. | |
Let's talk about what is happening in sea air and how important it is. | :21:34. | :21:38. | |
30,000 people being killed by their government is a humanitarian | :21:38. | :21:44. | |
disaster. Syria is an opportunity for us because they play an | :21:44. | :21:50. | |
important role in the Middle East. It is Iran's only ally in the Arab | :21:50. | :21:59. | |
world. Says seeing Syria removed President Assad is a higher | :21:59. | :22:06. | |
priority for us. Making sure be replacing government is responsible | :22:06. | :22:13. | |
is important to us. We do not want to be drawn into a military | :22:13. | :22:18. | |
conflict. The right thing for us is working with our partners and | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
identifying responsible parties in Syria, organising them and bringing | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
them together in a form of a council that can take the lead in | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
Syria and then make sure they have the arms necessary to defend | :22:30. | :22:35. | |
themselves. We do need to make sure they do have answer go into the | :22:35. | :22:40. | |
wrong hands. They could be used to have asked down the road. We must | :22:40. | :22:47. | |
co-ordinate these efforts with our allies, especially Israel. Many | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
countries are concerned about this, they are willing to work with us. | :22:51. | :22:57. | |
We need to have an effective leadership affair in Syria to make | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
sure the insurgents are armed and that those who are armed will be | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
the responsible parties. I believed President Assad Moscow, I believe | :23:06. | :23:11. | |
he will go. We have to make sure we have the relationships and | :23:11. | :23:17. | |
friendships with the people who take his place. For the years to | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
come, we will see Syria as a friend. This is a critical opportunity for | :23:21. | :23:30. | |
America. The President said they were let the UN deal with it. And | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
Kofi Annan came in and try to have a ceasefire. That did not work. | :23:34. | :23:39. | |
Then they look to the Russians. We should be playing the leadership | :23:39. | :23:47. | |
role. Not on the ground with military. We are playing debilitate | :23:47. | :23:52. | |
-- leadership role. We are mobilising support. We are making | :23:52. | :23:57. | |
sure that those we help of those who will be friends of ours in the | :23:57. | :24:02. | |
long-term and the friends of our allies. Going back to Libya, this | :24:02. | :24:08. | |
is an example of how we make choices, when we went into Libya, | :24:08. | :24:13. | |
we were able to immediately stop the massacre because of the unique | :24:13. | :24:18. | |
circumstances and the coalition we helped to organise. We have to make | :24:18. | :24:24. | |
sure that Gaddafi did not say that. To the Governor's credit, you | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
supported us going into Libya and the coalition. When it came to make | :24:30. | :24:37. | |
sure that Gaddafi did not stay in power, your suggestion was that | :24:37. | :24:44. | |
this was mission model. Imagine if we had pulled out at that point. He | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
had more American blood on his hands than any individual rather | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
than a Osama Bin Laden. We were going to make sure we finished the | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
job. That is part of the reason why the Libyans still with us. We did | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
so in a careful and thoughtful way, making certain we knew we were | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
dealing with. And that those forces of moderation on the ground will | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
once we could work with. We had to do the same leadership on a came to | :25:12. | :25:19. | |
Syria. That is exactly what we're doing. Governor, were you go beyond | :25:19. | :25:24. | |
what the administration would do? Would you put in no-fly zone is | :25:24. | :25:30. | |
over Syria? I didn't not want our military involved in Syria. -- do | :25:30. | :25:37. | |
not. Our objectives are to replace President Assad and have a new | :25:37. | :25:43. | |
government which will be friendly to us. I want to make sure they get | :25:43. | :25:51. | |
arms. And they have the arms necessary. I did not want to see a | :25:51. | :25:55. | |
military involvement on the part of our troops. It would not be | :25:55. | :26:00. | |
necessary. We have sufficient resources with our partners in the | :26:00. | :26:05. | |
region to support those groups. It has been going on for a year. It | :26:05. | :26:13. | |
should have been a time for American leadership. We should have | :26:13. | :26:20. | |
brought together the responsible parties. The insurgents are highly | :26:20. | :26:25. | |
desperate. They have not come together, they have not formed a | :26:25. | :26:30. | |
council of some kind. That needs to happen. We need to make sure they | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
have the arms they need to carry out the very important role which | :26:34. | :26:44. | |
:26:44. | :26:44. | ||
is getting rid of President Assad. He does not have different ideas. | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
That is because we are doing exactly what we should be doing to | :26:48. | :26:55. | |
try to promote a moderate Syrian leadership and an effective | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
transition so we get President Assad out. That is the kind of | :27:00. | :27:04. | |
Lisha we have shown and the leadership we will continue to show. | :27:04. | :27:10. | |
-- leadership. During the Egyptian turmoil, you said it was time for | :27:10. | :27:20. | |
:27:20. | :27:21. | ||
Hosni Mubarak to go. Do you have any regrets about that? I do not. | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
America needs to stand with democracy. The notion that we would | :27:26. | :27:31. | |
have tax running over the young people in Tahrir Square is not the | :27:31. | :27:38. | |
kind of leadership JFK talked about 50 years ago. What I also said is | :27:38. | :27:43. | |
now that we have a democratically elected government in Egypt, they | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
must make sure they take responsibility for protecting | :27:47. | :27:50. | |
religious minorities. We will put significant pressure on them to | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
make sure they are doing it. To recognise the rights of women which | :27:55. | :27:59. | |
is critical throughout the regions. They cannot develop if young women | :27:59. | :28:05. | |
are not given the kind of education they need. They need to abide with | :28:05. | :28:13. | |
their treaty with Israel. Not only is his role's security is at stake, | :28:13. | :28:23. | |
:28:23. | :28:27. | ||
so is ours. -- is Israel's. What will make the Egyptian Revolution | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
successful is that the young people are seeing opportunities. Their | :28:31. | :28:36. | |
aspirations are similar to those here. They want jobs, they want to | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
see their kids going to a good school. They want to make sure they | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
have a roof over their heads. They want a better life for the future. | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
One of the things we have been doing is organising conferences | :28:49. | :28:55. | |
where these Egyptians can have a sense of how they can rebuild their | :28:55. | :29:00. | |
economy which is not corrupt and transparent. What is also important | :29:00. | :29:04. | |
is that for America to be successful in this region, there | :29:04. | :29:10. | |
are some things we have to do at home as well. One of the challenges | :29:10. | :29:15. | |
over the last decade as we experimented with nation-building | :29:15. | :29:20. | |
in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, we have neglected in developing our | :29:20. | :29:26. | |
own economy, our own education system. It is very hard to project | :29:26. | :29:33. | |
leadership around the world when we are not doing what we need. Mitt | :29:33. | :29:43. | |
:29:43. | :29:43. | ||
Romney, which you have stuck with a Hosni Mubarak? No. I wish we had a | :29:43. | :29:48. | |
better vision of the future. Looking back at the beginning of | :29:48. | :29:53. | |
the President's term, I wish we had recognise the growing energy and | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
passion for that part of the world and we would have worked more | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
aggressively with our friend and other friends in the region to help | :30:00. | :30:06. | |
them make the transition so that it did not explode the way that it did. | :30:06. | :30:14. | |
But once it exploded, I felt the same as the President did. The | :30:14. | :30:19. | |
people were speaking of our principles. Hosni Mubarak did | :30:19. | :30:26. | |
things that were unimaginable. Let me step back and let me talk about | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
what our mission should be in the Middle East and even more broadly. | :30:30. | :30:35. | |
Our purpose is to make sure the world is peaceful. We want a | :30:35. | :30:40. | |
peaceful plan. We want people to enjoy their lives and not be at war. | :30:40. | :30:44. | |
That is our purpose. The mantle of leadership in promoting the | :30:44. | :30:49. | |
principles of peace is falling on America. We did not ask for it but | :30:49. | :30:57. | |
it is an honour to have it. We need to be strong. It begins with a | :30:57. | :31:04. | |
strong economy, but unfortunately, the economy is not strong. The | :31:04. | :31:08. | |
President of Iran says out that does not make us a great country. | :31:08. | :31:15. | |
That is a frightening thing. The joint chief of staff said our debt | :31:15. | :31:18. | |
is the biggest national security threat we face. We need a strong | :31:18. | :31:24. | |
economy. We need a strong military. Ours is second to none in the world. | :31:24. | :31:33. | |
We are blessed with terrific soldiers and technology. We need to | :31:33. | :31:38. | |
have strong allies. Our association and connection with our allies is | :31:38. | :31:45. | |
the central to our strength. We are the great nation that has for the | :31:45. | :31:50. | |
two allies. We need to stand by our principles. If we are strong with | :31:50. | :31:56. | |
all of this, our influence will grow. Unfortunately, our influence | :31:56. | :32:03. | |
is not greater anywhere than it was four years ago. That is a perfect | :32:03. | :32:09. | |
segue into our next segment. That is, what is America's role in the | :32:09. | :32:19. | |
:32:19. | :32:20. | ||
world? What do you see as our role in the world? I absolutely believe | :32:20. | :32:26. | |
that America has a responsibility and the privilege of helping defend | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
freedom and promote the principles which make the world more peaceful. | :32:30. | :32:36. | |
Those principles included human rights, human dignities, free | :32:36. | :32:41. | |
enterprise, freedom of expression, elections - people tend to vote for | :32:41. | :32:47. | |
peace. We want to promote those principles are round the world. We | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
recognise there are places of conflict around the world. We won | :32:51. | :32:56. | |
to end this conflict. But in order to be able to fulfil I'll role in | :32:56. | :33:03. | |
the world, America must be strong. We must lead. For that to happen, | :33:03. | :33:08. | |
we must strengthen our economy at hand. You can I have 23 million | :33:08. | :33:13. | |
people struggling to get a job. You cannot have an economy that is | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
slowing down in its growth rate. You can or have key is coming out | :33:17. | :33:22. | |
of college and half of them of finding a job. We have to get the | :33:22. | :33:26. | |
economy going. We have to strengthen our military. We do not | :33:26. | :33:36. | |
:33:36. | :33:37. | ||
know what the world will throw out -- at last down the road. In the | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
2000 are based, there were no mention of terrorism. Then one year | :33:41. | :33:49. | |
later, 9/11. I would not cut the military budget. We also have to | :33:49. | :33:53. | |
stand by our allies. The tension between Israel and the US was very | :33:53. | :33:59. | |
unfortunate. And pulling out missal defence arm of Poland and the way | :33:59. | :34:06. | |
we did was also unfortunate. It disrupted the relationship in some | :34:06. | :34:14. | |
ways. When the students took to the streets in Tehran, and the people | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
protest at, the green revolution occurred. For the President to be | :34:18. | :34:23. | |
silent, I thought that was an enormous mistake. We need to stand | :34:23. | :34:31. | |
for a principle, allies and our economy. America remains the one | :34:31. | :34:38. | |
indispensable nation. The world needs a strong America. Because we | :34:38. | :34:43. | |
entered the war in Iraq, we were able to refocus attention. Not only | :34:43. | :34:48. | |
on the terrorists affect but the transition progress in Afghanistan. | :34:48. | :34:52. | |
It allowed us to refocus on relationships that were neglected | :34:52. | :35:00. | |
for a decade. How alliances have never been stronger. In Asia, | :35:00. | :35:06. | |
Europe, Africa. With his role, where we have unprecedented | :35:06. | :35:13. | |
military and intelligence co- operation. But what we have been | :35:13. | :35:17. | |
also been able to do is reposition ourselves so we can start | :35:17. | :35:22. | |
rebuilding America. That is what Mike Rann does. Making sure we | :35:22. | :35:27. | |
being manufacturing back to our shores. Like what we did in the | :35:27. | :35:32. | |
order industry. Making sure we have the best education system in the | :35:32. | :35:36. | |
world, including retraining our workers for the jobs of tomorrow. | :35:36. | :35:41. | |
Doing everything we can to control our energy. We cut out oil imports | :35:41. | :35:49. | |
to the lowest levels in two decades. We also have to develop clean | :35:49. | :35:56. | |
energy technology. That is the kind of Ladyship we need to show. We | :35:56. | :36:05. | |
We have to do it in a responsible way by cutting it spending we do | :36:05. | :36:10. | |
not need, but also asking the work is to pay a little bit more. That | :36:10. | :36:13. | |
way we can research in the technology that has always kept us | :36:13. | :36:19. | |
in the cutting edge. Governor Romney has taken a different | :36:19. | :36:23. | |
approach throughout this campaign. He has proposed wrong and reckless | :36:23. | :36:29. | |
policies. He is praised George Bush as a good economic stalwart and | :36:29. | :36:33. | |
Dick Cheney as someone who shows great judgement. Taking us back to | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
those strategies that got us into the mess are not the way that we | :36:36. | :36:43. | |
are going to maintain string. and reckless policies? I have a | :36:43. | :36:48. | |
policy for the future. An agenda for the future. When it comes to | :36:48. | :36:52. | |
the economy, I know what it takes to create 12 million jobs and | :36:52. | :36:56. | |
rising take-home pay. What we have seen over the past four years is | :36:56. | :36:59. | |
not what I want to see over the next four years. He said we would | :36:59. | :37:05. | |
be at 5.4% unemployment. We are 9 million jobs short of that. I will | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
get America working again. I would do it with five simple steps. | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
Number one, we are going to have North American energy independence. | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
We will do it by taking full advantage of oil, coal, gas, | :37:18. | :37:25. | |
nuclear and renewables. Number two, we will increase outrage. -- | :37:25. | :37:30. | |
outrage. Particularly in Latin America. The opportunities there we | :37:30. | :37:35. | |
have just not taken advantage of. But an America's economy is almost | :37:35. | :37:41. | |
as big as the economy of China. Latin America is a huge opportunity | :37:41. | :37:46. | |
for us. Time-zone, language opportunities. Number three, we | :37:46. | :37:49. | |
will have training programmes that will work for our workers and | :37:49. | :37:55. | |
schools that finally put the parents and teachers and kids first. | :37:55. | :38:00. | |
Then we're going to have to get to a balanced budget. We cannot expect | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
entrepreneurs and businesses to take their life savings or the | :38:04. | :38:07. | |
company's money and invest in America if they think we're headed | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
to the road to Greece. That is where we are going right now unless | :38:10. | :38:16. | |
we get of the spending and borrowing binge. Finally, number | :38:16. | :38:22. | |
five, we have to champion the small business. Small business is where | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
jobs come from. Two-thirds of our jobs come from small businesses. | :38:25. | :38:30. | |
New business formation is down to the lowest level in 30 years under | :38:30. | :38:33. | |
this administration. I want to bring it back and get back good | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
jobs and rising to a campaign. Let's talk about where we need to | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
compete. He talks about small businesses, but Governor, when | :38:40. | :38:46. | |
you're in Massachusetts, small businesses Rank about 48 that of 50 | :38:46. | :38:51. | |
states. The policies you're promoting do not help small | :38:51. | :38:55. | |
businesses. The way you define small businesses include folks at | :38:55. | :38:59. | |
the very top. They include you and me. That is not the kind of | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
promotion we need. Let's take an example that we know it's going to | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
make a difference. That is our education policy. We did not talk | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
about this in the last debate much. Under my leadership, what we have | :39:11. | :39:18. | |
done his reform education, working with governors of 46 days. We have | :39:18. | :39:21. | |
seen progress and games in schools that were having a terrible time | :39:21. | :39:26. | |
and they are finally making progress. What I want to do now is | :39:26. | :39:28. | |
higher more teachers especially in maths and science because we know | :39:28. | :39:32. | |
that we have fallen behind when it comes to maths and science. Those | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
teachers can make a difference. Governor Romney, when you asked by | :39:36. | :39:40. | |
teachers whether or not this would help the economy grow, you said it | :39:40. | :39:45. | |
would not help it. When you ask about reduced class sizes, you said | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
class sizes do not make a difference. I tell you, if you talk | :39:48. | :39:54. | |
to teachers, they will tell you does make a difference. If we have | :39:54. | :39:57. | |
maths teachers who are able to provide the kind of support that | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
they need for our kids, that is what is going to determine whether | :40:01. | :40:08. | |
or not the new businesses are created here, companies here and | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
the kind of budget proposals that you have put forward, when we do | :40:12. | :40:17. | |
not ask your me to pay a time more in terms of reducing debts, but | :40:17. | :40:20. | |
instead we slash support for education, that is undermining our | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
long-term competitiveness. That is not good for America's position in | :40:24. | :40:30. | |
the world. And the will be notices. That may get better foreign policy. | :40:30. | :40:37. | |
I need to speak a moment if you let me. I am so proud of the state I | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
had the chance to be Governor of. Every two years, we have tests that | :40:40. | :40:45. | |
look at how well our kids are doing. 4th graders and a Craig is a tested | :40:45. | :40:50. | |
in English and maths. While I was governor I was proud that afford | :40:50. | :40:58. | |
Craig is came out number one in all 50 states. Also in maths. Also in | :40:58. | :41:03. | |
the 8th grade. Headed we do that? Republicans and Democrats came | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
together on a bipartisan Ben -- basis to put in place education | :41:06. | :41:10. | |
principles that focused on having great teachers in the classroom. | :41:10. | :41:14. | |
That was what allowed us to become the number one stake in the nation. | :41:14. | :41:18. | |
That was ten years before you took office. And then you cut education | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
spending money came into office. And we get Gaskell's number one in | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
the nation. The principles that we put in place, we also tickets not | :41:26. | :41:28. | |
just a graduation exams are determined whether they were up to | :41:29. | :41:34. | |
the skills needed to compete, but also if they graduated in the top | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
quarter of their class, they got a for you to Russian ride at any | :41:39. | :41:45. | |
Massachusetts public to judge -- institution. I am going to try and | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
shift it because we have heard some of this in the other debates. | :41:50. | :41:54. | |
Governor you say you want a bigger military. You want a bigger Navy. Q | :41:54. | :42:00. | |
do not want to cut defence spending. I were to ask you about financial | :42:00. | :42:06. | |
problems in this country. Where are you going to get the money? First | :42:06. | :42:10. | |
of all I am going through from the very beginning. We are going to cut | :42:10. | :42:15. | |
about 5% of the discretionary budget, excluding military. Can you | :42:15. | :42:21. | |
do this without... A will be happy to have you take a look. Come to | :42:21. | :42:28. | |
our website. We will have a balanced budget within eight-ten | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
years. The first thing I get rid of his the healthcare package. There | :42:32. | :42:41. | |
are a number of things that sound good, but we cannot afford them. We | :42:41. | :42:44. | |
would take programme after programme that we do not absolutely | :42:44. | :42:49. | |
have to have and we will get rid of them. Number two, we take some | :42:49. | :42:56. | |
programmes that we are going to keep, like Medicaid, and we give it | :42:56. | :42:59. | |
to the States to run because state run these programmes more | :42:59. | :43:07. | |
efficiently. As a governor I wanted the programme. States are proving | :43:07. | :43:12. | |
it. States like Arizona, Rhode Island, have taken these Medicaid | :43:12. | :43:15. | |
dollars and have shown they can run these programmes more cost | :43:15. | :43:20. | |
effectively. I want to do those two things. It gets us to a balanced | :43:20. | :43:26. | |
budget within eight-ten years. Let's get back to the military. | :43:26. | :43:29. | |
That is what I asked about. should have entered the first | :43:29. | :43:35. | |
question. -- answered. Governor Romney has called for five trillion | :43:35. | :43:40. | |
dollars of tax cuts that he says he will pay for by closing deductions. | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
The map doesn't work, but he continues to claim he will do it. | :43:45. | :43:48. | |
He was to spend another two trillion dollars on military | :43:48. | :43:53. | |
spending that our military is not asking for. Keep in mind that the | :43:53. | :43:57. | |
military spending has gone up every single year that I have been in | :43:57. | :44:01. | |
office. We spend more on our military than the next 10 countries | :44:01. | :44:11. | |
:44:11. | :44:11. | ||
combined. China, Russia, France, UK. What I did was work with Dow Joint | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
Chiefs of Staff to think about what we will need in the future to make | :44:15. | :44:20. | |
sure that we are safe. That is the budget we have put forward. What we | :44:20. | :44:25. | |
cannot do is spend two trillion dollars in additional military | :44:25. | :44:28. | |
spending that the military is not asking for, five trillion dollars | :44:29. | :44:34. | |
on tax cuts are. You say there you are going to pay for it by closing | :44:34. | :44:37. | |
loopholes and deductions without naming of those loopholes and | :44:37. | :44:41. | |
deductions are. And then, somehow, you are also going to deal with the | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
deficit that we already have. The maths does not work. When it comes | :44:47. | :44:52. | |
to the military, what we have to think about is not just budgets, we | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
have to think about capabilities. We need to think about siders | :44:55. | :45:00. | |
security. We need to be thinking about space. That is what our | :45:00. | :45:04. | |
budget does, but it is driven by its strategy, not politics. It is | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
not driven by members of Congress and what they would like to see. It | :45:08. | :45:13. | |
is driven by what we need to keep the American people safe. That is | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
exactly what he does and it also then allows us to reduce our | :45:17. | :45:21. | |
deficit, which is a significant national security concern. We have | :45:21. | :45:25. | |
to make sure that our economy are strong at home so we can project | :45:25. | :45:30. | |
military power overseas. Bob, I am pleased that I balanced budgets. I | :45:30. | :45:36. | |
was in the world of business for 25 years. I went to the Olympics but | :45:36. | :45:40. | |
was out of balance and we got it on balance and made a success there. I | :45:40. | :45:47. | |
had the chance to be the governor of a State for lack using a rope. - | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
- four years in a row. We cut deficits 19 times. The President | :45:51. | :45:56. | |
has a balanced a budget yet. I am going to be able to balance the | :45:56. | :46:02. | |
budget. Let's talk about military spending. Our Navy is smaller now | :46:02. | :46:09. | |
than at any time since 1917. The Navy said they needed 313 ships to | :46:09. | :46:15. | |
carry out their mission. We're down to 285. That is unacceptable to me. | :46:15. | :46:19. | |
I want to make sure we have the ships that are required by a navy. | :46:19. | :46:24. | |
Our air force is older than small - - and smaller than at any other | :46:25. | :46:30. | |
time since it was founded. Since FDR we have the strategy that we | :46:30. | :46:34. | |
could fight into conflict at once. Now we are changing to one conflict. | :46:34. | :46:39. | |
This, in my view, is the highest responsibility of the President. We | :46:39. | :46:43. | |
need to maintain the safety of the American people. I will not cut out | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
military budget by a $1 trillion, which is the combination of the | :46:47. | :46:53. | |
budget cuts and the sequestration cuts. That is making out future | :46:54. | :46:58. | |
less certain and secured. A tiny to comment on this. The Syquest is not | :46:58. | :47:03. | |
something that I have proposed. Congress has proposed it. The | :47:03. | :47:07. | |
Budget that we are probe -- talking about is not reducing military | :47:07. | :47:11. | |
spending, it is maintaining it. I think Governor Romney has not spent | :47:12. | :47:15. | |
a lot of time looking at how our military works. You mentioned a | :47:15. | :47:20. | |
navy and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. We also have | :47:20. | :47:23. | |
your horses and bayonets because the nature of our military has | :47:23. | :47:29. | |
changed. We have things called aircraft carriers. We have ships | :47:29. | :47:33. | |
that go under water, nuclear submarines. The question is not a | :47:33. | :47:39. | |
game of battleship. It is what are our capabilities are. When I sit | :47:39. | :47:43. | |
down with the secretary of the Navy and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, we | :47:43. | :47:48. | |
determine how we are going to be able to meet all of their defence | :47:48. | :47:53. | |
needs in a way that also keeps faith without troops and make sure | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
that our veterans had the kind of support that they need when they | :47:56. | :48:01. | |
come home. That is not reflected in the kind of budget that you are | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
putting forward. It does not work. We visit the website quite a bit | :48:05. | :48:11. | |
and it still does not work. A lot to cover. I would like to move to | :48:11. | :48:21. | |
:48:21. | :48:24. | ||
the next segment. Red lines, Israel and Iran. Would either of you be | :48:24. | :48:32. | |
willing to declare that an attack on Israel is an attack on the US? | :48:32. | :48:36. | |
It is the same promise that we give to how close allies like Japan. If | :48:36. | :48:43. | |
you make such a declaration, would that not deter Iran? It has | :48:43. | :48:47. | |
certainly deterred the server at Union for a long time -- Soviet | :48:47. | :48:57. | |
:48:57. | :48:59. | ||
Israel is a true friend and aggregates ally in the region. If | :48:59. | :49:04. | |
it is a tad, R Mackie will stand with his row. I have made that | :49:04. | :49:14. | |
:49:14. | :49:14. | ||
clear. I will stand with Israel if they are attack. We have created | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
the strongest military and intelligence co-operation between | :49:18. | :49:23. | |
our two countries in history. We will be carried -- carrying out the | :49:23. | :49:31. | |
largest military exercise this week. To the issue of Iran, as long as I | :49:31. | :49:35. | |
am President, Iran will not get a nuclear weapon. I have made that | :49:35. | :49:41. | |
clear when I came into office. We organised the strongest coalition, | :49:41. | :49:46. | |
and the stronger sanctions against Iran in history. It is could | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
believe their economy. Their currency has dropped 80%. There are | :49:51. | :49:57. | |
oil production has dropped to the lowest level since 20 years ago. | :49:57. | :50:02. | |
The reason we did this is because a nuclear Iran is a threat to our | :50:02. | :50:07. | |
national security and a threat to Israel. We cannot afford to have a | :50:07. | :50:12. | |
nuclear arms race in the most volatile region in the world. Iran | :50:12. | :50:17. | |
is a state sponsor of terrorism. For them to provide nuclear | :50:17. | :50:22. | |
technology is unacceptable. And they have said they want to see it | :50:22. | :50:32. | |
:50:32. | :50:34. | ||
is rare wiped off the map. We offer Iran a choice. They can take the | :50:34. | :50:37. | |
diplomatic route and then the nuclear programme, or they will | :50:37. | :50:42. | |
have to face a united world of and a US President who says we were not | :50:42. | :50:47. | |
take any options of the table. The disagreement I have with Governor | :50:47. | :50:51. | |
Romney is that during the course of this campaign, he often talks about | :50:51. | :50:58. | |
taking premature or military action. That would be a mistake. When I | :50:58. | :51:02. | |
send young men and women into harm's way, I always understand | :51:02. | :51:09. | |
that is the last resort, not the first. I want to underscore the | :51:09. | :51:14. | |
same point the President made, if I am President, we will stand with | :51:14. | :51:20. | |
his rare. If Israel is attacked, we have their back. Not just | :51:20. | :51:30. | |
diplomatically, not just culturally, but militarily. A nuclear Iran is | :51:30. | :51:35. | |
unacceptable to America. It presents a threat to our friends | :51:35. | :51:45. | |
:51:45. | :51:45. | ||
and to us. It is the central for us to understand what our mission is | :51:45. | :51:48. | |
for Iran and that is to dissuade Iran from having a nuclear weapon | :51:48. | :51:58. | |
:51:58. | :52:00. | ||
to peaceful and diplomatic means. Crippling sanctions was my first | :52:00. | :52:05. | |
step for me five years ago. They do work. It is absolutely the right | :52:05. | :52:10. | |
thing to do. I would have put them in place earlier but it is good | :52:10. | :52:14. | |
that we have them. I would tighten those sanctions. I would say those | :52:15. | :52:19. | |
ships that carry Iranian oil cannot come into our paws. I imagine the | :52:19. | :52:26. | |
EU will agree with us. People who are trading in those oil cans, I | :52:26. | :52:33. | |
would tighten those sanctions further. I will make sure the | :52:33. | :52:42. | |
president of Iran will be invited. -- indicted. I'll make sure of | :52:42. | :52:46. | |
their diplomats are treated as the Prior's there are, around the world. | :52:46. | :52:52. | |
The same way we traded the apartheid diplomats of South Africa. | :52:52. | :53:02. | |
:53:02. | :53:05. | ||
-- treated. A military action is the last resort. It is something | :53:05. | :53:12. | |
one would only consider if all of the other avenues had been tried to | :53:12. | :53:22. | |
:53:22. | :53:25. | ||
their full extent. There are reports that there are talks in | :53:25. | :53:30. | |
principle about Iran's nuclear programme. What is the deal that | :53:30. | :53:38. | |
you would accept? Those reports in the newspapers, they are not true. | :53:38. | :53:44. | |
Our goal is to get Iran to recognise it needs to give up its | :53:44. | :53:50. | |
nuclear programme. And abide by the UN resolutions that had been in | :53:50. | :53:54. | |
place because they have the opportunity to re- enter the | :53:54. | :53:58. | |
community of nations. And we would welcome that. There are people in | :53:58. | :54:03. | |
Iran who have the same aspirations as people around the world for a | :54:03. | :54:07. | |
better life. We hope that the leadership takes the right | :54:07. | :54:11. | |
decisions. The deal that we would accept is that they and their | :54:11. | :54:15. | |
nuclear programme, it is very straight forward. I am glad | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
Governor Romney agrees with the steps we are taking. There have | :54:18. | :54:25. | |
been times when his son are like the governor thought he would do | :54:25. | :54:31. | |
the same things we did and that he was said then louder and some have | :54:31. | :54:35. | |
a would make a difference. The work involved in setting up these | :54:35. | :54:40. | |
crippling sanctions is painstaking. It is ridiculous. We started the | :54:40. | :54:46. | |
day we got into office. De reason it is so important is we had to | :54:46. | :54:51. | |
make sure that all the countries participating, even in countries | :54:51. | :54:57. | |
like Russia and China. If it is just us imposing sanctions, we have | :54:57. | :55:03. | |
had sanctions in place for a long time, it is because we had everyone | :55:03. | :55:10. | |
agreeing, Iran is under so much pressure. Ideal is to be had. And | :55:10. | :55:15. | |
that is they abide by the roles that have already been established. | :55:15. | :55:18. | |
They must convince the International Committee that they | :55:18. | :55:26. | |
are not pursuing a nuclear programme. We're not going to let | :55:26. | :55:30. | |
up the pressure and to we have clear evidence that it all takes | :55:30. | :55:38. | |
place. One last thing, the clock is ticking. We're not going to allow | :55:38. | :55:43. | |
Iran to perpetually engaged in negotiations that lead nowhere. I | :55:43. | :55:48. | |
have been very clear to them. Because of the Intelligence Corps | :55:48. | :55:52. | |
the nation that we do with a range of countries, we have a sense of | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
when they would have breakout capacity which means we would not | :55:56. | :56:00. | |
be able to intervene in time to stop their programme. That Crockett | :56:00. | :56:06. | |
is ticking. If they do not meet the demands of the International | :56:06. | :56:12. | |
Committee, will take all options necessary. From the very beginning, | :56:12. | :56:16. | |
one of the challenges we had with Iran is that they looked at his | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
administration and felt the administration was not as strong as | :56:20. | :56:26. | |
it needed to be. I think they saw weakness. From the very beginning, | :56:26. | :56:32. | |
the President said he would meet with the world's worst actors. And | :56:32. | :56:39. | |
that he would sit with Hugo Chavez and Castro. And the President of | :56:39. | :56:49. | |
:56:49. | :56:50. | ||
Iran. The President began what I caught an apology tour, of going to | :56:50. | :56:55. | |
various nations in the Middle East and criticised America. They saw | :56:55. | :57:01. | |
weakness in that. When there were decisions in the streets of Tehran, | :57:01. | :57:07. | |
the President was silent. They notice that as well. When the | :57:07. | :57:10. | |
President said he would create daylight between ourselves and is | :57:10. | :57:17. | |
Raul, they noticed that as well. These scenes suggested that we can | :57:18. | :57:23. | |
keep on pushing along. We can keep talks going on, we would just keep | :57:23. | :57:31. | |
spending. They are preparing to create a nuclear threat to the US | :57:31. | :57:37. | |
and the world. That is unacceptable for us. It is the central for a | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
President to show strength from the very beginning, to make very clear | :57:41. | :57:46. | |
what is acceptable and not acceptable. And an Iranian nuclear | :57:46. | :57:50. | |
programme is not acceptable. And to make sure they understand that is, | :57:50. | :57:56. | |
from the very beginning, the titres censure as possible. They need to | :57:56. | :58:00. | |
be tightened. Diplomatic isolation it needs to be tougher. We need to | :58:00. | :58:06. | |
put the pressure on them as hard as we can. If we do that, we will not | :58:06. | :58:11. | |
have to take military action. Nothing he said was true. Starting | :58:11. | :58:16. | |
with this notion of me apologising. This has been the biggest whopper | :58:17. | :58:21. | |
that has been told that during the course of this campaign. Every fact | :58:21. | :58:28. | |
checker and the poorer have looked at it. It is not true. -- reporter. | :58:28. | :58:32. | |
When it comes to a tightening sanctions, we put in the toughest | :58:32. | :58:38. | |
and most crippling sanctions ever. The fact is, while we were caught | :58:38. | :58:43. | |
alternating to make sure these were effective, you were still invested | :58:43. | :58:48. | |
in a Chinese state oil company that was doing business with the Iranian | :58:48. | :58:53. | |
oil sector. I'll let the American people decide on who is more | :58:53. | :58:55. | |
effective and more credible one comes to imposing crippling | :58:55. | :59:02. | |
sanctions. And with respect to the Iranian revolution, I was very | :59:02. | :59:07. | |
clear about the murderous activities that had taken place. It | :59:07. | :59:10. | |
was contrary to international law and everything that civilised | :59:10. | :59:18. | |
people stand for. The strength we have shown in Iran was shown by the | :59:18. | :59:22. | |
fact that we were able to mobilise the world. When I came into office, | :59:22. | :59:29. | |
the world was divided. Iran was at its weakest point. Economically, | :59:29. | :59:35. | |
strategically, militarily. We are continuing to keep the pressure | :59:35. | :59:42. | |
onto make sure they do not get and nuclear weapon. That will be the | :59:42. | :59:49. | |
case, as long as I am President. We're four years closer to a new | :59:49. | :59:58. | |
career Iran. We should not have wasted these four years. The reason | :59:58. | :00:03. | |
accorded an apology Tour it is because you went to the Middle East, | :00:03. | :00:09. | |
he flew to Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Turkey and Iraq, and by the way, | :00:09. | :00:13. | |
you stick is rare, our closest friend in the region, and you went | :00:14. | :00:22. | |
to the other places. They noticed use it is rare. He said America had | :00:22. | :00:28. | |
been dismissive. He said America had dictated other nations. America | :00:28. | :00:34. | |
has not deterrent other nations, we have a free other nations from | :00:34. | :00:44. | |
dictators. If we're going to talk about trips we have taken. When I | :00:44. | :00:49. | |
was a candidate, the first trip I'd took was to visit our trips. When I | :00:49. | :00:56. | |
went in his role as a candidate, I do not attempt fundraisers. I went | :00:56. | :01:03. | |
to the Holocaust museum to remind myself in nature of evil and why | :01:03. | :01:10. | |
our bond with Israel would be unbreakable. Then I went to a town | :01:10. | :01:16. | |
which experienced missals raining down on them. I saw families fare | :01:16. | :01:21. | |
who showed me when missals had come down need their children's bedrooms. | :01:21. | :01:28. | |
I was reminded of what that would mean if when my kids. We funded a | :01:28. | :01:38. | |
:01:38. | :01:39. | ||
programme to stop those missals. That is how I have used my travels. | :01:39. | :01:45. | |
The central question, at this point, will be who is going to be credible | :01:46. | :01:53. | |
to all parties involved? They can look at my track record. Whether it | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
is Iran's sanctions, whether it is appalling democracy, whether it is | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
supporting women's rights, supporting religious minorities, | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
they can say the President of the US has done the right side of | :02:07. | :02:12. | |
history. That kind of credibility is precisely why we have been able | :02:12. | :02:15. | |
to show leadership on a wide range of issues facing the world right | :02:15. | :02:24. | |
now. What if the Prime Minister of his record you on the phone and | :02:24. | :02:28. | |
said, our bombers are on the way, we're going to bomb Iraq. What | :02:28. | :02:36. | |
would you say? Let's do not get into hypothetical us of that nature. | :02:36. | :02:44. | |
We would not get a call. This is the kind of thing that would be | :02:44. | :02:54. | |
discussed and evaluated well before that. Let's go back to what the | :02:54. | :03:02. | |
President was speaking about. I look at what is happening around | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
the world and I see Iran four years closer to a barn. I see the Middle | :03:07. | :03:13. | |
East with a racing car at -- tide of violence. ICD Harris continuing | :03:13. | :03:23. | |
:03:23. | :03:27. | ||
to spread. -- I C Jihadists. I see Syria with 30,000 civilians dead. I | :03:27. | :03:32. | |
see our trade deficit with China growing larger every year. I look | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
around the world and I do not feel... We see North Korea | :03:37. | :03:47. | |
continuing to export their nuclear technology. Russia is backing away | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
from the treaties we have had with them. I do not see out influence | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
going, I see it receding. In part because of the failure of the | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
President in dealing with that economic challenges. In part with a | :03:59. | :04:07. | |
what role in our commitment with the military. In part with the | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
turmoil with Israel. The President received a letter from 38 | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
Democratic senators same detention with his row is a real problem. | :04:16. | :04:21. | |
They asked him to repair the tensions. And the damage. -- with | :04:21. | :04:31. | |
:04:31. | :04:38. | ||
Whether it is the Middle East, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran - you have | :04:38. | :04:44. | |
been all over the map. I am pleased you are now endorsing our policy of | :04:44. | :04:49. | |
applying diplomatic pressure and potentially having bilateral | :04:49. | :04:54. | |
discussions with Iran to end their nuclear programme but a few years | :04:54. | :05:00. | |
ago you said that is something you would never do. In the same way you | :05:00. | :05:05. | |
opposed a timetable in Afghanistan. Now you are for it, although it | :05:05. | :05:11. | |
depends. You say you would have ended the war on Iraq but recently | :05:11. | :05:17. | |
he said we should have 20,000 more men in there. He said it was | :05:17. | :05:23. | |
mission Creek to go after Muammar Gaddafi. When it goes after going | :05:23. | :05:30. | |
Osama Bin Laden, the President would make that call but when you | :05:30. | :05:36. | |
were candidate as I was, and I said I would take the shot if we had | :05:36. | :05:41. | |
Osama Bin Laden in a shot. You said, push heaven and earth to get one | :05:41. | :05:47. | |
man? We said we should ask Pakistan permission. If we would have asked | :05:47. | :05:55. | |
Pakistan, we would not have got him. Art that it was worth moving and | :05:55. | :06:00. | |
earth to get him. I was talking to a young woman who was four years | :06:00. | :06:07. | |
old when 9/11 happen. Her last conversation she had with her | :06:07. | :06:12. | |
father, it was when he was calling from the Twin Towers. He said he | :06:12. | :06:18. | |
loved her. For the next decade she was haunted by the conversation. | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
She told me, that brought some closure by getting Bin Laden. When | :06:22. | :06:30. | |
we do things like that, when we bring those who have armed us to | :06:30. | :06:37. | |
justice, it sent a message to the world and it tells people - we did | :06:37. | :06:43. | |
not forget her father. That is clarity of leadership. Those | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
decisions are not always popular. They are not poll tested. Some in | :06:48. | :06:53. | |
my own party, including my vice- president had the same critic as | :06:53. | :06:59. | |
you did I looked at what we need to get down to keep American people | :06:59. | :07:06. | |
safe and I make those decisions. That takes us to the next segment. | :07:07. | :07:15. | |
America's long as four - Afghanistan and Pakistan. | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
cannot have the President and lay out a whole series without giving a | :07:19. | :07:27. | |
response. With respect, you laid out a whole lot also. The US is | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
scheduled to turnover responsibility for security in | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
Afghanistan to the Afghan government in 2014. At that point, | :07:35. | :07:42. | |
we will leave a smaller force of Americans for training purposes. It | :07:42. | :07:48. | |
seems to me, the key question is - what do you do it the deadline | :07:48. | :07:54. | |
arrives and it is obvious the Afghans are not able to handle | :07:54. | :08:02. | |
their security? Do we still leave? We will be finished by 2014 and | :08:02. | :08:08. | |
when I am President, we will make sure we bring troops out by the end | :08:08. | :08:11. | |
of 2014. The commanders and generals are on track to do so. We | :08:11. | :08:17. | |
have seen progress in the past several years. The training | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
programme is proceeding apace. They are now a large number of security | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
forces were ready to step in to provide security and we will be | :08:26. | :08:32. | |
able to make that transition by the end of 2014. The troops will come | :08:32. | :08:39. | |
home at that point. -- 2014. We will make sure we look at what is | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
happening in Pakistan and recognise it will have a major impact on the | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
success in Afghanistan. I say that because I know a lot of people who | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
feel we should washer hands and walk away, I do not mean you Mr | :08:53. | :08:58. | |
President, but a lot of people in our nation, that we should walk | :08:58. | :09:01. | |
away from Pakistan because they are not being nice to us. But Pakistan | :09:01. | :09:09. | |
is important to the region, to the world and to America. Russia will | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
have more than Great Britain in terms of weaponry. They also have | :09:14. | :09:24. | |
the Taleban, and other networks, a Pakistan that falls apart will be | :09:24. | :09:29. | |
dangerous to Afghanistan and to America. We need to be helpful in | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
encouraging Pakistan to move towards a more stable government | :09:33. | :09:38. | |
and we build a relationship with us. That means the we provide is going | :09:38. | :09:44. | |
to be conditioned upon certain bench marks being made. I look at | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
this as both a need to help meet Pakistan in the right direction but | :09:48. | :09:56. | |
also to get Afghanistan to be ready and they will be ready. When I came | :09:56. | :10:01. | |
into office, we were still bogged down in Iraq. Afghanistan had been | :10:01. | :10:06. | |
drifting for a decade. We ended the war on Iraq. We focus our attention | :10:06. | :10:13. | |
on Afghanistan and we delivered a surge of troops. That was possible | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
because we ended the war in Iraq. We are now in a position where we | :10:17. | :10:22. | |
have met many of the objectives that got us there in the first | :10:22. | :10:27. | |
place. Part of what happened is we forgot why we had gone. We went | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
because there were people responsible for 3,000 American | :10:29. | :10:36. | |
debts. We decimated Al-Qaeda or leadership in the border region | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
between Afghanistan and Pakistan. We then studied to build up Afghan | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
forces. We are now in a position where we can transition out because | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
there is no reason why Americans should die when Afghans are | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
probably capable of defending their country. That transition has to | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
take place in a responsible fashion. We have been there a long time and | :10:59. | :11:04. | |
money to make sure that we and how coalition partners are pulling out | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
responsibly and giving Afghans capabilities that they need. But, | :11:08. | :11:16. | |
what I think American people recognise, after a decade of war, | :11:16. | :11:22. | |
it is time to build up our nation. We need to put Americans back to | :11:22. | :11:27. | |
work, especially our veterans. Bridges, roads, schools need to be | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
built. Making sure the veterans are getting the care they need when it | :11:32. | :11:38. | |
comes to post-traumatic stress disorder and dramatic brain injury. | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
Making sure the certification they need for good jobs in the future | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
are in place. I was having lunch for a veteran in Minnesota or who | :11:46. | :11:51. | |
had been a medic and dealing with the most extreme circumstances. | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
When he came home and wanted to become a nurse, he had to start | :11:55. | :12:01. | |
from scratch. What we said is, let's change the certification. The | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
first lady has done a great job pudding a veterans back to work | :12:06. | :12:14. | |
with a great organisation. Those other kinds of things that we can | :12:14. | :12:22. | |
now do because we are making that transition. You talk about Pakistan | :12:22. | :12:29. | |
and one needs to be done. General Malan, the commander in Afghanistan, | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
says the Americans continue to die at the hands of Brits who are | :12:33. | :12:43. | |
:12:43. | :12:49. | ||
supported by Pakistan -- at an hands of Hauritz. -- -- brutes. Yet | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
we continue to give Pakistan billions of dollars. Is it time for | :12:54. | :13:00. | |
asked to divorce Pakistan? No. It is not time to divorce and nation | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
which has 100 nuclear weapons and is on the way to double that. A | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
nation which has serious threats from terrorist groups within it. | :13:09. | :13:16. | |
The Taleban, it is a nation which does not have a civilian leadership | :13:16. | :13:24. | |
that is calling the shop -- shots there. You have the military. He | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
had a civilian government. This is a nation which if it falls apart, | :13:29. | :13:36. | |
it becomes a failed State, they run nuclear weapons there and you have | :13:36. | :13:41. | |
terrorist there who can put their hands on those weapons. This is an | :13:41. | :13:46. | |
important part of the world. It is technically an ally. They are not | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
acting like an hour in right now but we have some way to do. I do | :13:50. | :13:56. | |
not blame the administration that the relationship is strain. We had | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
to go into Pakistan. We had to go and get Osama Bin Laden. That was | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
the right thing to do and that upset them. But there was anger | :14:05. | :14:10. | |
before that. We need to work with the people in Pakistan to try and | :14:10. | :14:14. | |
help them move to a more responsible course. It is important | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
for them, for the nuclear weapons, for the success of Afghanistan. | :14:19. | :14:27. | |
Inside Pakistan you have a large group of Taleban who are going to | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
come back in when we go. There is one of the reasons the Afghan | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
security forces have so much work to do to fight against that. It is | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
important that we cannot just walk away but we need to make sure that | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
as we send support for them, that this is tied to the making progress | :14:45. | :14:53. | |
on matters that will lead them to become a civil society. We know | :14:53. | :15:00. | |
President Obama's position. What is your position on the use of drones? | :15:00. | :15:06. | |
I believe we should use any and all means to take out people who | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
threatened us and our friends. It has widely been reported that | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
drones are being used and I support that entirely. I support the | :15:16. | :15:21. | |
President to decide to up the usage. We will continue to go after the | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
people who represent a threat to the station. But, we are going to | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
have to do more than going after leaders and killing bad guys, | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
important as that is. We need to have a far more effective and | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
comprehensive strategy to help move the world away from Tehran and | :15:39. | :15:45. | |
Islamic extremism. We talk a lot about these things but you look -- | :15:45. | :15:54. | |
from terror. Is the Middle East in trouble? Is Al-Qaeda or on the run? | :15:54. | :16:03. | |
No. A Israel and the Palestinians closer to reach a peace agreement? | :16:03. | :16:09. | |
They have not had talks in Shuey is. I am convinced that a strong | :16:09. | :16:14. | |
leadership and the effort to build a strategy based upon helping these | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
nations reject extremism, will seek peace and prosperity the world | :16:18. | :16:25. | |
demand. Our strategy was not just going after a Bin Laden. We develop | :16:25. | :16:32. | |
partnerships in Somalia, Yemen, in Pakistan. What we have also done | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
his engage these governments in the kind of reforms that again to make | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
a difference in people's lives. To make sure that governments are not | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
corrupt. To make sure they're treating women with the kind of | :16:45. | :16:51. | |
respect and dignity that every nation that succeeds has shine. To | :16:51. | :16:56. | |
make sure that they have their market system that works. We are | :16:56. | :17:02. | |
engaging them in building capacity and we have stood on the side of | :17:02. | :17:08. | |
democracy. One thing Americans should be proud of, when Tunisians | :17:08. | :17:16. | |
began their protests, this nation, my administration, stood with them, | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
before any other country. In Egypt. We stood on the side of democracy. | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
In Libya we stood on the side of the people. As a consequence, there | :17:26. | :17:31. | |
is no doubt that attitudes about Americans have changed. But there | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
are always going to be elements in these countries that potentially | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
threaten the US. We want to shrink those groups and now works and we | :17:40. | :17:45. | |
can do that but we are also going to have to maintain vigilance when | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
it comes to terrorist activities. Al-Qaeda is much weaker than it was | :17:50. | :17:55. | |
when I came into office and they do not have the same capacity to | :17:55. | :18:00. | |
attack the US home and an hour allies as they did four years ago. | :18:00. | :18:08. | |
The next segment is an important one - the rise of China. And future | :18:08. | :18:18. | |
:18:18. | :18:21. | ||
What do you believe is the greatest future threat to the national | :18:21. | :18:31. | |
:18:31. | :18:34. | ||
security of this country? I think it will continue to be terra -- | :18:34. | :18:40. | |
terrorist networks. In respected China, China is a partner in the | :18:40. | :18:50. | |
:18:50. | :18:50. | ||
international community if it is following the rules. We will | :18:50. | :18:55. | |
insists China plays by the same rules as everybody else. I do not | :18:55. | :19:00. | |
want to see jobs shipped overseas. This is has not getting a level | :19:00. | :19:07. | |
playing field when it comes to trade. -- businesses. I set up a | :19:07. | :19:11. | |
trade task force to go after cheaters when it came to | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
international trade. We have brought more cases against China | :19:14. | :19:19. | |
for violating trade rules than the previous administration in two | :19:19. | :19:26. | |
terms. We won every case that has been decided. Just recently, | :19:26. | :19:36. | |
:19:36. | :19:37. | ||
steelworkers in Ohio, they can sell still to China because we won that | :19:37. | :19:47. | |
:19:47. | :19:54. | ||
case. -- steel. Mitt Romney accused me for being too tough. He said it | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
would not be good for American workers and it would be | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
protectionist. American workers do not feel that way. They found a | :20:03. | :20:12. | |
:20:13. | :20:16. | ||
finely they had an administration who take this situation seriously. | :20:16. | :20:24. | |
-- found finally. If we do not have the technology that will allow us | :20:24. | :20:31. | |
to create great businesses here in the United States, that is how we | :20:31. | :20:37. | |
lose competition. Mitt Romney's budget proposals would not allow | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
that to happen. It is not government that makes the economy | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
successful. The greatest national security threat is a nuclear Iran. | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
Let's talk about China. China has an interest that is very much like | :20:52. | :20:58. | |
ours in one respect, they want a stable world. They do not want war, | :20:58. | :21:08. | |
:21:08. | :21:08. | ||
Apology for the loss of subtitles for 119 seconds | :21:08. | :23:08. | |
they do not want protectionism, Some people will say you start a | :23:08. | :23:13. | |
trade war with China. Isn't there a risk that that could happen. | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
Bestsellers about this much staff a year and we sell them about this | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
much stuff here. It is pretty clear he does not want a trade war. There | :23:21. | :23:26. | |
is one going on right now. It is a silent one. We have an enormous | :23:26. | :23:32. | |
trade imbalance with China. It is worse this year than last year. We | :23:32. | :23:37. | |
have to understand that we cannot just surrender and lose jobs year | :23:37. | :23:41. | |
in, year out. We have to say to her friends in China, you guys are | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
playing aggressively. This cannot keep going. You cannot keep holding | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
down the value of your currency, stealing their intellectual | :23:49. | :23:54. | |
property, counterfeiting a products, selling them around the world, even | :23:54. | :24:01. | |
in the US. There is one thumping that makes about and they said they | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
were having doubts come in that were broken and having to be | :24:04. | :24:13. | |
repaired under warranty. They noticed one that they were more | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
than one with the same serial number. There were counterfeit | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
products being made overseas. They were being sold into El market and | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
around the world as if they were made by the US competitor. This | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
cannot go on. I want a great relationship with China. China can | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
be a partner, but that does not mean they can roll all over us and | :24:33. | :24:39. | |
steal their jobs. Governor Ronnie is right. You are familiar with | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
jobs been shipped overseas because you invest in companies that shift | :24:43. | :24:48. | |
jobs overseas. That is how the free market works. I have made a | :24:48. | :24:54. | |
different bed on American workers. If we had taken your advice about | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
our auto industry, we would be buying cars from China instead of | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
selling cars to China. If we take tea at -- taking advice in respect | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
to how we change our tax code so that companies that own profits | :25:05. | :25:10. | |
overseas do not pay US taxes compared to companies here that pay | :25:10. | :25:14. | |
taxes, that is estimated to Craig 800,000 jobs. The problem is they | :25:14. | :25:20. | |
will be in places like China. If we are not making investments in | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
education and basic research, which is not something that the private | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
sector is doing at a sufficient pace right now and has never done, | :25:26. | :25:36. | |
:25:36. | :25:36. | ||
then we will lose the lead in With respect to what we have done | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
with China already. US exports have doubled since I came into office to | :25:41. | :25:51. | |
China. Currencies are at their most advantageous point since 1993. We | :25:51. | :25:59. | |
have to make more progress. That is why we are going to keep on... Part | :25:59. | :26:05. | |
of the reason why we are able to give it to the Asia-Pacific region | :26:05. | :26:10. | |
after ending the war in Iraq entrance issuing out of Afghanistan, | :26:10. | :26:17. | |
because this is going to be a massive growth area in the future. | :26:18. | :26:27. | |
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-- and making the transition out. We are working with countries in | :26:28. | :26:34. | |
the region so that ships can pass through, commerce can continue. We | :26:34. | :26:38. | |
are organising trade relations with countries other than China so that | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
China feels more pressure about meeting basic international | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
standards. That is the kind of leadership we have shown in the | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
region, that is the kind of leadership we will continue to show. | :26:49. | :26:58. | |
I want to take one of those points attacking me. The President | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
mentioned the water industry and I would be in favour of jobs being | :27:02. | :27:12. | |
:27:12. | :27:19. | ||
elsewhere. -- auto. I was born in Detroit. My father was an auto | :27:19. | :27:29. | |
:27:29. | :27:31. | ||
maker. I would do nothing to harm the car industry in America. It was | :27:31. | :27:35. | |
actually President Bush who signed the first cheques. The debt burden | :27:35. | :27:42. | |
they have built up, I did not agree with it... That is not what is said. | :27:42. | :27:48. | |
You need to take a look at the transcript. I said we would provide | :27:48. | :27:52. | |
guarantees. That allowed these companies to go through bankruptcy | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
and come out of bankruptcy. Under no circumstances would I do | :27:57. | :28:01. | |
anything other than help the industry get on its feet. The idea | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
that I would liquidate the industry, of course not! Let's check the | :28:06. | :28:16. | |
record. Governor, the people of the Detroit do not forget. I have the | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
commitment to make sure our industries in this country can | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
compete and be successful. We can compete successfully with anyone in | :28:24. | :28:31. | |
the world, we are going to tear. We will need a president who does not | :28:31. | :28:36. | |
feel the President investing in car companies making electric battery | :28:36. | :28:43. | |
cars... This is not research Mr President. This is not basic | :28:44. | :28:49. | |
research. I want to invest in research. Research is great. | :28:49. | :28:54. | |
Providing funding to universities is great, investing in companies, | :28:54. | :29:03. | |
that is the wrong way to go faster I want to make sure we make America | :29:03. | :29:12. | |
more competitive. -- to go. You are investing in companies, it makes it | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
less likely for them to come here. The private sector is not going to | :29:16. | :29:26. | |
:29:26. | :29:29. | ||
invest in a solar company. Anyone out there can check the record. It | :29:29. | :29:35. | |
keep on trying to airbrush history. You were very clear, you would not | :29:35. | :29:40. | |
provide government assistance to the US companies even if they went | :29:40. | :29:44. | |
through bankruptcy. He said they could get it in the private market | :29:44. | :29:53. | |
place. That is not true. You are wrong. I am not wrong. More | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
importantly, it is two in order for us to be competitive we are going | :29:57. | :30:04. | |
to have to make some smart choices. -- true. Cutting the education | :30:04. | :30:08. | |
budget is not a smart choice. Cutting investment in research and | :30:09. | :30:13. | |
technology is not a smart choice. That will not help us compete with | :30:13. | :30:18. | |
China. Bringing down our deficit by adding seven trillion dollars of | :30:18. | :30:22. | |
tax cuts and military spending that the military is not asking for, | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
before we get to the debt we currently have, that is not going | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
to make us more competitive. Those are the kind of choices the | :30:31. | :30:34. | |
American people face now. Having a tax code that is rewarding | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
companies for shipping jobs overseas instead of here in the US, | :30:39. | :30:44. | |
that will not make us more competitive. The one thing I am | :30:44. | :30:49. | |
absolutely clear about, after a decade in which we saw adrift, jobs | :30:49. | :30:53. | |
being shipped overseas, no-one championing American businesses and | :30:53. | :30:58. | |
workers, we have now begun to make progress. We cannot go back to the | :30:58. | :31:03. | |
same policies that got us into such difficulty in the first place. That | :31:03. | :31:13. | |
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is why we have to move forward and not back. I could not agree more | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
about going forward. But I do not want to go back to the last four | :31:21. | :31:26. | |
years. 23 million Americans are struggling to find a good job. When | :31:26. | :31:31. | |
you came to office 32 million people on food stamps, today 47 | :31:31. | :31:36. | |
million people. When it came to office 10 trillion dollars in debt, | :31:36. | :31:41. | |
now 16 trillion dollars in debt. It has not worked. You said we would | :31:41. | :31:47. | |
be at 5.4% unemployment. We are 9 million jobs short of that. I have | :31:48. | :31:53. | |
met some of those people. I met a young woman in Philadelphia who is | :31:54. | :31:59. | |
coming out of college and cannot find work. People are just weeping | :31:59. | :32:05. | |
about not being able to get work. It is just a tragedy. These last | :32:05. | :32:09. | |
four matches have been so hard. That is why it is so critical we | :32:09. | :32:19. | |
:32:19. | :32:20. | ||
make America the place to build jobs and grow the economy. -- last | :32:20. | :32:25. | |
four years. It is not going to happen just by hiring teachers. I | :32:25. | :32:35. | |
:32:35. | :32:37. | ||
love teachers. I'm not going to let... I love teachers. I want to | :32:37. | :32:43. | |
get out private sector growing. think we all love teachers. Thank | :32:43. | :32:49. | |
you so much for a vigorous debate. We have come to the end. It is time | :32:49. | :32:58. | |
for a closing statement. Thank you. You have now heard three debates, | :32:58. | :33:04. | |
months of campaigning and way too many TV commercials. May have got a | :33:04. | :33:09. | |
choice. Over the last four years we have made real progress digging | :33:09. | :33:15. | |
away out of policies that gave us two prolonged wars, record deficits, | :33:15. | :33:21. | |
the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Mitt Romney wants | :33:21. | :33:25. | |
to take us back to those policies. A foreign policy that is wrong and | :33:25. | :33:30. | |
reckless. Economic policies that will not create jobs and will not | :33:30. | :33:34. | |
reduce the deficit, but will make sure that folks at the top do not | :33:34. | :33:39. | |
have to play by the same rules as you do. I have got a different | :33:39. | :33:45. | |
vision for America. I want to bring manufacturing jobs back to our | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
shores. Rewarding companies and small businesses investing here, | :33:49. | :33:54. | |
not overseas. I want to make sure we have the best education system | :33:54. | :34:00. | |
in the world. Retraining the workers of tomorrow. I want to | :34:00. | :34:04. | |
develop oil and natural gas and also the energy sources of the | :34:04. | :34:08. | |
future. I want to reduce the deficit by cutting spending we do | :34:08. | :34:12. | |
not need but by asking the wealthy to do a little bit more. So we can | :34:12. | :34:17. | |
invest in research and technology that are the key to a 21st century | :34:17. | :34:21. | |
economy. As Commander In Chief I will remain -- maintain the | :34:21. | :34:27. | |
strongest military in the world. To go after those who would do us harm. | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
After a decade of war, we all recognise we have got to do so | :34:32. | :34:36. | |
nation-building at home. We have got to build some roads and bridges | :34:36. | :34:46. | |
:34:46. | :34:47. | ||
and care for our soldiers who have advanced the cause of freedom. If I | :34:47. | :34:51. | |
have the privilege of being your president for another four years I | :34:51. | :34:55. | |
promise I will always listen to your voices, I will fight for your | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
families. I'll make sure America continues to be the greatest | :34:58. | :35:08. | |
:35:08. | :35:13. | ||
I am optimistic about the future. I am excited about how prospects as a | :35:13. | :35:20. | |
nature -- nation. A one to see peace. It is our objective. We have | :35:20. | :35:24. | |
an opportunity for leadership to promote principles of peace which | :35:24. | :35:28. | |
will make the world a safer place and make people of this country | :35:28. | :35:32. | |
more confident that their future is secure. I also want to make sure | :35:32. | :35:37. | |
that we get these economy going. There are to pass the country can | :35:38. | :35:43. | |
go - one is a path which at the end of for years, we're trillion | :35:43. | :35:49. | |
dollars in debt, heading towards Greece. The President's path will | :35:49. | :35:56. | |
mean continuing decline in. I want to make sure we grow. The | :35:56. | :36:02. | |
President's path means 20 million people out of work. I will get | :36:02. | :36:07. | |
people out of work with 12 million new jobs. I'm going to get people | :36:07. | :36:11. | |
off of food stands not by cutting the programme but by giving them | :36:11. | :36:15. | |
good jobs. America is going to come back but we need to have a | :36:15. | :36:21. | |
President who can work across the aisle. I was in a static show at | :36:21. | :36:29. | |
his 7% democrat. -- I was in a state with 87% democrat. We will | :36:29. | :36:34. | |
work with good democrats and good Republicans to do that. The station | :36:34. | :36:39. | |
is the hope of the Earth. We have been placed by having a nation | :36:39. | :36:46. | |
which is free and prosperous thanks to generations which have held the | :36:46. | :36:50. | |
torch to see freedom and opportunity. It is outturn to take | :36:50. | :36:56. | |
that torture and I'm convinced we will do it. -- it is outturn. I | :36:56. | :37:00. | |
will work with you. I will leave you in an open and honest way. Ask | :37:00. | :37:05. | |
for your vote. I would like to be the next President of the United | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
States to help to support this great nation and maintain it as the | :37:09. | :37:16. | |
hope of the Earth. Gentlemen, thank you so much. That brings to the end | :37:16. | :37:21. | |
of the back. We want to thank the university and students for having | :37:21. | :37:28. | |
us. I leave you with the words of my mother who said, go vote. | :37:28. | :37:38. | |
:37:38. | :37:45. | ||
Goodnight. We were live in a Boca Raton in Florida. Bob Schieffer | :37:45. | :37:47. | |
winding up the third and final televised debate between Barack | :37:47. | :37:56. | |
Obama and Mitt Romney. It has been described as pivotal, crucial. It | :37:56. | :38:01. | |
is not often they are described that way. The first today | :38:01. | :38:06. | |
transformed me Romney's campaign. With the polls and neck to neck, | :38:06. | :38:13. | |
this could possibly be Important. Foreign policy and not in most | :38:13. | :38:17. | |
voters' top five but people seem to care about their character of a | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
Commander In Chief and this was about setting out how these two | :38:21. | :38:31. | |
characters should act abroad. You have been saying this on Twitter, | :38:31. | :38:34. | |
it was harder for the two to articulate clear differences | :38:34. | :38:39. | |
between their approaches and very hard for the voters to spot them? | :38:39. | :38:45. | |
If you wear an UN decider -- undecided voter, and you're going | :38:45. | :38:48. | |
to make up your mind on foreign policy, really, there is not much | :38:48. | :38:53. | |
difference. They spent most of the time when they were talking about | :38:53. | :39:03. | |
:39:03. | :39:07. | ||
foreign policy speaking about the And they may be a little bit of | :39:07. | :39:10. | |
difference between them in terms of Iran that even that, when I was | :39:10. | :39:14. | |
listening to him tonight, what he was presenting as his foreign | :39:14. | :39:19. | |
policy was really almost identical to what the White House has been | :39:19. | :39:26. | |
going. Will viewers around the world, how would America and that | :39:26. | :39:32. | |
its foreign policy under a President Obama or a President | :39:32. | :39:39. | |
running, it will continue to. less dynamic when both candidates | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
have barn sitting down as compared to the last of the back. President | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
Obama was at taking to the point where Mitt Romney had to say at | :39:48. | :39:54. | |
taking me is not an agenda. There were a whole range of issues, every | :39:54. | :39:58. | |
time you offered an opinion, you have been wrong. Nothing the | :39:58. | :40:03. | |
Governor has just said is true. How do you think that will play? Barack | :40:03. | :40:07. | |
Obama came into this deciding that what he did in the last debate, | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
which was being more aggressive, worked better. He was going to be | :40:10. | :40:16. | |
more engaged, more attacking. The criticism of the disastrous first | :40:16. | :40:22. | |
debate was that he had been to Abson, lethargic, listless, had not | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
attacked Mitt Romney. He has done the opposite and it has worked for | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
him. When it comes to foreign policy, it is easier for the | :40:31. | :40:37. | |
incumbent to have a certain amount of confidence. Barack Obama assumes | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
automatically the role of Commander-in-Chief. He said during | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
the course of the back, I am the Commander-in-Chief. I have the | :40:44. | :40:53. | |
experience. This is what I have done. Try to gauge audience's | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
response that worked really well. He can say this is a job I know | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
about, I have kept she saved and, by the way, Osama Bin Laden is dead. | :41:02. | :41:12. | |
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That came up several times. I get these countries safe, that is the | :41:12. | :41:18. | |
first job of the President - he said that if you Tahs. Mitt Romney | :41:18. | :41:24. | |
found himself defending some of his policies at on class sizes and | :41:24. | :41:31. | |
small businesses? It was Ms lively when candidates got back on a | :41:31. | :41:37. | |
domestic policies. -- it was most lively. It is what voters want to | :41:37. | :41:42. | |
hear about and where they have the most differences. As a debate, that | :41:42. | :41:48. | |
is where you heard the most back and forth, the most antagonism | :41:48. | :41:53. | |
because they do have real differences as to how they see the | :41:53. | :41:57. | |
future of the American economy. There was quite a lot about | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
domestic policy for a debate that was meant to be about foreign | :42:01. | :42:06. | |
policy. We heard about teachers, the cart bailout, what they would | :42:06. | :42:11. | |
do about stimulating growth in the American economy. He was not solely | :42:11. | :42:17. | |
a debate about foreign policy. Domestic issue - there is a big | :42:17. | :42:25. | |
difference. Foreign policy, there is not much difference. Mitt Romney | :42:25. | :42:32. | |
praised Iraq Obama for ordering the killing of Osama Bin Laden. But he | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
attacked the President on his foreign policy. I congratulate him | :42:36. | :42:41. | |
on taking out Osama Bin Laden and going after the leadership in Al- | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
Qaeda or we cannot cure for our way out this mess. We are going to have | :42:45. | :42:51. | |
to put in place a comprehensive and robust strategy to help the world | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
of Islam and other parts of the world reject these radical violent | :42:55. | :43:04. | |
extremism. Make sure they're not hiding. They are involved in 10 or | :43:04. | :43:07. | |
12 countries and it presents an enormous threat to our friends, to | :43:07. | :43:12. | |
the world, to America long-term and we must have a comprehensive | :43:12. | :43:17. | |
strategy to reject this kind of extremism. He also attacked the | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
weakness of the United States and the prison and Obama. That line - | :43:21. | :43:29. | |
we cannot kill away out of this mess, do you think it is resonant? | :43:29. | :43:35. | |
It is a different line from the line he used in previous foreign | :43:35. | :43:41. | |
policy discussions. He gave a speech a couple of weeks ago which | :43:41. | :43:46. | |
sounded quite a lot more President Bush second inaugural address where | :43:46. | :43:50. | |
he laid out the need for America to promote democracy around the world. | :43:50. | :43:54. | |
It talked about tyranny and oppression and that America would | :43:54. | :43:57. | |
fight for liberty and freedom. That is the kind of language of | :43:57. | :44:01. | |
President Bush. It is the kind of language just terrible of the neo- | :44:01. | :44:06. | |
conservative advisers who work on the Romney campaign. Tonight we had | :44:06. | :44:11. | |
a much more moderate sounding Mitt Romney. Much more reticent about | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
getting involved in military activities abroad. Much more in | :44:15. | :44:21. | |
line with what President Obama has done. That line, it was directed | :44:21. | :44:26. | |
particularly at women voters. They poll has been very reluctant for | :44:26. | :44:30. | |
American military involvement abroad. It was directed at them. It | :44:30. | :44:34. | |
was one of Mitt Romney's better lines of the night. President Obama | :44:34. | :44:38. | |
said he would do all he could to support serious but he warned that | :44:38. | :44:42. | |
any further involved may not be a good idea. The Syrians again to | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
have to determine their own future. Everything we are doing we're doing | :44:46. | :44:51. | |
in consultation with our partners, including Israel, which has a keen | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
interest in seeing what happens. Co-ordinating with Turkey and other | :44:55. | :45:01. | |
countries in the region. What we're seeing taking place in Syria is | :45:01. | :45:04. | |
heartbreaking and that is why we are going to do everything we can | :45:04. | :45:10. | |
to make sure we are helping the opposition but we also have to | :45:10. | :45:16. | |
recognise that for us to get more and tangled militarily in Syria is | :45:16. | :45:24. | |
a serious step. He called Syria and opportunities for the US. Seeing | :45:24. | :45:33. | |
Syria remove our son is a high priority. And to make sure -- | :45:33. | :45:38. | |
remove President Assad. We do not want to get dragged into a military | :45:38. | :45:42. | |
conflict. We need to work through our partners and resources to | :45:42. | :45:48. | |
identify responsible parties within Syria, organise them, bring them | :45:48. | :45:53. | |
together in a form of if not government a form of council. | :45:53. | :45:58. | |
hard to see daylight between the two on this. Precious few American | :45:58. | :46:02. | |
voters want see the country involved in another war? There is | :46:02. | :46:07. | |
no appetite for any kind of military engagement in Syria. They | :46:07. | :46:12. | |
both said they want to get rid of President Assad and are worried | :46:12. | :46:16. | |
about the regional implications. There is some wriggle room in the | :46:16. | :46:24. | |
sense that made Romney is suggested they should directly arm of the | :46:24. | :46:30. | |
rebels. The White House shied away from that. The arms they have been | :46:30. | :46:38. | |
so far supplied by Katter and Saudi Arabia are falling into the hands | :46:38. | :46:43. | |
not of the rebels. It is a complicated area for Mitt Romney | :46:43. | :46:46. | |
and not one where there is any appetite at all amongst the | :46:46. | :46:55. | |
American voters. The Republicans saw a chance to attack President | :46:55. | :47:04. | |
Obama on the way they characterise his policy on Israel. My strategy | :47:04. | :47:08. | |
is straightforward - go after the bad guys, make sure we do the best | :47:08. | :47:13. | |
to interrupt and kill them, to take them out of the picture but my | :47:13. | :47:17. | |
strategy is broader than that. That is important, of course, but the | :47:17. | :47:22. | |
key we have to pursue his a pathway to get the Muslim world to reject | :47:22. | :47:27. | |
extremism on its time. We do not want another Iraq, Afghanistan. | :47:27. | :47:33. | |
That is not the right cause. We need to make sure we go after the | :47:33. | :47:38. | |
leaders of his anti-American groups, these jihadist. Governor Romney | :47:38. | :47:47. | |
painted a picture of the rising tide of chaos, he used that phrase, | :47:47. | :47:55. | |
it is a direct echo of President George W Bush. We go after the bad | :47:55. | :47:58. | |
guys, attack of a President Bush but in the same answer he said we | :47:58. | :48:02. | |
do not want another Iraq or Afghanistan. Distancing himself | :48:02. | :48:07. | |
from the policies of his predecessor and, by the way, some | :48:07. | :48:13. | |
of the advisers on his policy attain. There is a mixed message. | :48:13. | :48:17. | |
He gets to a broader point which Americans are concerned about and | :48:17. | :48:27. | |
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that is what is Americain role in post Africans bring. -- that | :48:32. | :48:42. | |
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President Obama has not found -- Let stock about Iran, which Mitt | :48:47. | :48:57. | |
Romney described as the greatest security threat to the US. -- lets | :48:57. | :49:03. | |
talk about. This is the biggest whopper that has been told during | :49:03. | :49:12. | |
the campaign. When it comes to tightening sanctions, look, one we | :49:12. | :49:22. | |
put in the most crippling sanctions ever. When we were doing this, | :49:22. | :49:27. | |
you're still invested in a Chinese state oil doing business with the | :49:27. | :49:37. | |
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Iranian oil sector. We are four years closer to a nuclear Iran. The | :49:39. | :49:43. | |
reason I call it an apology, because you went to the Middle East | :49:43. | :49:49. | |
and you flew to Egypt and Saudi Arabia and to Turkey and Iraq, by | :49:49. | :49:59. | |
the way, you skipped Israel. They noticed that you skipped Israel. In | :49:59. | :50:05. | |
those nations you said America had been dismissive. He said America | :50:05. | :50:15. | |
had dictated to other nations. -- you said. Mitt Romney's first | :50:15. | :50:25. | |
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foreign trip as leader as -- was disastrous. Has he overcome that? | :50:30. | :50:35. | |
This was probably his weakest debate. I would say President Obama | :50:35. | :50:39. | |
won the debate. That is not surprising, he is Commander-in- | :50:39. | :50:45. | |
Chief. Having said that, I think for people who were leaning in his | :50:46. | :50:50. | |
direction, he did not make any major mistakes. He came across as | :50:50. | :51:00. | |
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