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Welcome to our live coverage of the Budget, the second

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And it's all happening in a rather different economic climate,

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not to mention the political climate, with that EU referendum

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And what will it mean for spending and taxation?

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A few minutes ago Mr Osborne appeared on the steps of Number 11

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Downing Street, his official residence, with the traditional red

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box containing a copy of his Budget speech.

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His eighth since he became Chancellor in 2010.

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Alongside him, his Treasury ministerial team.

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And that Budget speech will be delivered at 12.30 after the usual

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weekly session of Prime Minister's Questions.

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making their way now to the Houses of Parliament. Mr Osborne a few

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moments ago left Downing Street and headed for the Palace of

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Westminster. Stay with us as we'll have

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all the Budget detail and reaction. I'll be getting the thoughts

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of politicians here outside Parliament as they digest

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the Chancellor's announcements and assess how he deals with

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the tougher economic environment. I'm in Bolton, the heart of

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the so-called Northern Powerhouse, which has been promised more money

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to improve its transport network. We'll be getting a range of views

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from people affected And I'll be responding

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to your emails, texts and tweets about what this Budget means

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for you and your family's finances. We'll be making sense of the Budget

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measures with expert analysis from my BBC colleagues

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here in the studio. Our political editor

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Laura Kuenssberg, our economics editor Kamal Ahmed,

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and our business editor Simon Jack. They'll also be providing plenty

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of thoughts on social media If you want to join the Twitter

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conversation, use the hashtag You'll be part of the big tide of

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comment hanging around speech itself.

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You can also email us at [email protected].

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We'll try and put some of your tweets and emails

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to our experts and guests during the programme.

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Keep those comments coming in and keep the questions coming in and I

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will do my best to use them as the programme goes on.

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So, this time last year, the coalition government

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was still in power, the election was yet to come,

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and it has been a rather eventful 12 months for Mr Osborne.

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REPORTER: Is this an election-winning Budget,

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With Britain's national debt share falling, the sun

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People keep drinking beer because of the duty cut.

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The simplest thing to do is not to phase these changes in,

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I brought along Mao's Little Red Book.

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Oh, look, it's his personal signed copy!

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This is putting the power into the Northern Powerhouse.

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Eventful. He's a very visible Chancellor in so many ways. What are

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you expecting today? The big question for him is where has the

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sunshine gone, Chancellor? In the election campaign we got used to

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George Osborne making the case he had done rather a good job of fixing

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the roof while the sun was shining to use the metaphor he used again

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and again and again. Today, the tone is going to be completely different.

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He's going to warn of gathering clouds over the world economy, and

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the political question is, does he try to make the case, as his critics

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will suggest, that somehow it's his fault and he has caused some of

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these problems in this country? Or really point to what's happening

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right around the world, how does he respond politically to the fact of

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the numbers he bases his sums on in November and now look hopelessly

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optimistic and rhetorically also how does he do that when he's been

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telling the public something else for awhile? Lots of important things

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going on, like the reaction, because, of course, today it's a

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very big job to someone else on the opposition front bench. Let's look

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at Jeremy Corbyn, who was leaving home a short while ago today. As is

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usual on these days, he didn't say too much to the people waiting, but

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he faces a big challenge today because he has got to lead the

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response to this Budget speech. Some thoughts on that? This is one of the

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hardest and worst gigs in Westminster, being Leader of the

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Opposition is always difficult. Especially on Budget day. It is not

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an impossible but almost an impossible task. Imagine doing an

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exam live on television in front of the whole country that's not on your

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specialist subject, you haven't had any time to prepare for and you have

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got to somehow come back with something credible and hopefully for

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Jeremy Corbyn, can get through to the public. It's going to be a

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difficult task for him to respond in an effective detail but what we will

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hear from Jeremy Corbyn I'm sure, as we heard in recent days and months

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from his team, is, in their view, George Osborne's record is failure.

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He has missed his own targets on sorting out the books again and

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again and again. Of course, as Jeremy Corbyn will make reference to

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this, George Osborne will announce more cuts on top of six years of

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cuts, and that's the big difficulty for him in terms of the public. His

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reputation was built on sorting out the box, persuading people he was

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the safe choice to clear away the debts that is not got anything like

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as far as he wanted to our road and he's going to tell people today he

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has to act now so we don't pay later. That means more cuts, on top

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of years of cuts and for many people watching this around the country,

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it's going to be difficult to swallow. Quite a few things for us

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to pick up and I'll come back in a while to talk about the

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all-important context of the European referendum which could have

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a bearing on the things we're talking about today.

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What are you focusing on today? It's going to be a fascinating day. There

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are two big issues for us to watch as George Osborne gets up to deliver

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his Budget in an hour's time. One of those is around the government's

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finances. The Government accounts, how much will they spend and how

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much is it borrowing? Secondly, the health of the UK economy, because

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there have been some headwinds over the last three months since the

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Autumn Statement of last November. So let's remember some of those

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rules that George Osborne set himself last year. He said he would

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reduce Government borrowing and would be running a surplus by the

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end of this Parliament. Let's look at some of those figures. In the

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Autumn Statement in November he said borrowing would be at ?73.5 billion

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this financial year. It would fall them, he suggested, down to 49.9

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billion in 2016-17 and reach an overall surplus of over ?10 billion

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in 2019-20. The other key target he set himself was that public sector

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net debt, the amount of debt the Government is running would fall as

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a percentage of national income, that is rule two. Another thing to

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look for today is does he had that second rule? November 's forecast,

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but more optimistic, said the figure of national debt in comparison to

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income would be 83.1% last year, that would fall to 82.5%. This year.

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And fall again each subsequent year until its larger healthy looking

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number of 74.3% in 2019-20. A lot of economists judging today will say

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you can find it difficult with his new economic headwinds to hit that

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target. We need to keep a close eye on whether that downward trend is

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still there. That's very important politically for him. You mentioned

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the state of the economy. What is the main yardstick there? If you go

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back to the spending review of last autumn, things looked better. The

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Office for Budget Responsibility, economic watchdog for the

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Government, said the public finances were in a better state to the tune

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of ?27 billion. That was down to two things, higher tax receipts as the

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economy grew more robust, and also a bit of it gain out of our national

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debt repayments because interest rates are very low, the debt

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repayments were low as well so the Government got a lift from those. If

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we go back to the beginning of this year, global economic uncertainty

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has grown and there has been slower than predicted growth. Let's look at

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a few of those numbers. The Office for Budget Responsibility in

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November said in 2015, growth would be 2.4% and it would be the same for

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this year and would probably stay around the same area for the next

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three years. But since then, those economic headwinds have been on a

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downgrade. The Office for National Statistics put growth last year at

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just 2.2% and the Bank of England has now cut its growth forecast for

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this year, 2016, down to 2.2%. One other thing to remember, wages are

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not increasing as rapidly as we thought they would last year and

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that means tax receipts, income for the Government, is reduced, semi is

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going to have to cut public expenditure more like Laura said. If

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you want to hit his rules, you may not add them now but he will not, I

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don't believe, do that. Thanks very much, we will talk later.

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Plenty of speculation about the content of today's Budget,

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but it's important to remember that the Chancellor has already

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announced a list of things that will take effect at start

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of the new financial year next month.

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So let's start with the so-called giveaways.

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On income tax, the tax-free personal allowance is set to rise to ?11,000

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next month and the threshold for paying the higher income tax

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Next month, the government's new living wage comes into force

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and this will see the minimum wage rise from ?6.70 an hour to ?7.20

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A new personal savings allowance of ?1,000 for basic rate taxpayers

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and ?500 for higher rate taxpayers will also be introduced in April.

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So much for giving away, the Chancellor is also taking money

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The new apprenticeship levy will start to be collected in April

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2017 and is expected to raise up to ?3 billion a year.

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Stamp duty will be raised by 3% for buy-to-lets and second homes.

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And while there's been much speculation about possible changes

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to pension tax relief in today's Budget, the Chancellor has already

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announced a reduction in the lifetime allowance

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The Chancellor is squeezing public spending.

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Savings will be made in the welfare budget by freezing working age

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While increases in public sector pay will be capped at 1% for the rest

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So plenty of changes already in the pipeline and of course the world of

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business already heavily affected by some of those and the measures

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announced over the past year or so. Let's talk to Simon, our business

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editor. Business, what should we look out for? He's got a tricky

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conundrum because it got to persuade business he is still on their side

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whilst hitting them inevitably for some more cash and businesses are

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feeling pretty bruised for his last few encounters with George Osborne.

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We have the apprenticeship levy, the increase in the living wage come

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raid on Insurance Premium Tax they are saying, enough already, give us

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a break, please, we can't take much more so that's going to be their

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message. I'm afraid he's not going to be able to oblige. What are you

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expecting to do in that sense? Where can you go where business is

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concerned? He will try to go again for business premiums, it could go

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up to 12% and he would try to make sure more tax does not leak out of

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the current system so for example, at the moment, you can deduct the

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amount you pay in debt interest from the profits to reduce your tax

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profits and we could see a change there. On the plus side, though, the

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Northsea is in big trouble and this would be a no-brainer giveaway for

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him because there were no profit in the North Sea at the moment so

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reducing the tax by 20%, of nothing, is nothing, so it would be

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everything for him to do. OK, thank you very much. We will be back for

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some more analysis just before the Prime Minister's Questions at

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midday. Lots of reaction of course to the Budget speech at Westminster

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as we expect, but very important for us to take the temperature in other

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parts of the UK. My colleague Jo is in Bolton today, the marketplace.

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Let's join him now. Statemen Yes, Huw, I'm the market

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place here in Bolton which is George Osborne likes to term it the

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Northern powerhouse. It is under going a ?20 million refurbishment

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and make-over. As you can see everybody is busy working. They

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might have stopped while we are doing our broadcast here. Let's talk

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to the man who has been overseeing the construction in this big market

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place, Ian Spencer. The Chancellor is expected to announce new

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infrastructure projects for this region. How much of a boost will

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that give Bolton? It would be a fantastic boost to the region. If

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you look at Bolton, has always been overshadowed by the likes of

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Manchester and Liverpool, however, with the new transport links that

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are coming through, from reducing travel times from over 35 minutes

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out of Manchester, that's going to be reduced down to 20 minutes and

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then from there to the airport, within 40 minutes. So it would be

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fantastic for the region. Wla would it do for the building trade? From

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our prospective it will bring more opportunities to the business,

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growing it forward. So yes, you know, it is all very, very positive.

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Ian, thank you very much. I will let you get back to work. Let's take you

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into the Bolton sunshine, so out of the gloom of the vaults. They will

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be opened actually in the next few months. There will be restaurants

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and bars, tucked in under here in vaults closed since 1855 when this

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was actually the biggest market place in Europe. Well, let's talk to

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two ladies, Nicky Wilson-Cook who is in charge and Catherine who is a

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local businesswoman. Nicky, what impact is this going to have on

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Bolton? Well, the development has already started to have a positive

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impact. We're hoping it is a game changer introducing lesh uand

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restaurants is a key must have. We're really hopeful it will be

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great. Is the northern pou per house that George Osborne talks about

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tally a reality or rhetoric? No, it is a reality. We have already got

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the transport interchange happening. That's a ?48 million spend, that's

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been, that's funded by Greater Manchester Transport Programme,

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yeah, it is good. Well, let's talk to Catherine. There are measures the

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Chancellor brought in that have had an impact on small businesses like

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yours and you run an accountancy furpl. What impact have they had? --

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firm, what impact have they had? Changes in dividends. We know that

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small business owners face paying taxes on dividends which has quite a

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big impact for the tax planning as well as as in the future. What about

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the minimum wage? At the same time the Government announced today the

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national Living Wage. Well, obviously we all want to earn more

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money, so it is not bad to increase the Living Wage, but at the same

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time being forced to pay more wages and pay more in taxes regarding the

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dividends, it doesn't really have a good impact on small businesses

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because we are a bit afraid. All right, thank you both very much. We

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will be getting reaction all day, here at the market place in Bolton

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and we will also be getting reaction with ruth Alexander who is our

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personal finance expert. Let's speak to her. She is up there. Amid the

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speculation about what might be in the Budget, we do know what the

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Chancellor already has planned to come into play in April. Pensions is

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going to be a big area of change and that's something we will get a lot

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of questions about on Money Box, people who are reaching State

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Pension Age from 6th April, the system will change for them. They

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won't get the basic state pension and the additional state pension,

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there will be one new state pension which is about ?155 a month. The

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highest earners are being squeezed on pensions. The maximum amount you

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can save tax-free in a pension over a lifetime is going down to ?1

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million and the annual amount you can save overer year if you are

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earning 1 -- over a year if you are earning ?150,000 a year will be

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tapered down. There is good news for savers. Basic rate taxpayers will be

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able to earn ?1,000 interest tax-free on their savings and higher

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tax payers will be able to earn ?500 tax-free and that's on top of the

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Isa limit of ?420. We would love to keep in touch with you throughout

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the Budget and hear how it is affecting you. You can e-mail us and

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you can also text us or you can contact us via Twitter:

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We will be here all day in the market place. Not only will we be

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gauging reaction from local businesses and the TUC and local

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political leaders, we will, of course, bring you analysis of the

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key measures announced in the Chancellor's Budget coming up

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shortly. That's it. Huw. Jo, thank you very much.

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You're welcome to send in questions and comments as you go along because

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we will try to deal with as many as we can.

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Let's look outside our studio at Westminster. A glorious view from

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our helicopter of the Palace of Westminster. There is quite a bit of

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work going on, but there is a big bill attached to the projected work

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if the bills are approved because there is a lot of repair work needed

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on this glorious building. You have the Victoria Tower on the right

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which is home to the Parliamentary archives with Bills going back

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hundreds of years and Big Ben, of course, across the river there from

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the London Eye. On the green in front of Parliament is Jane Hill

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with guests. Let's join Jane now. Thank you very much, Huw. Welcome to

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a blustery College Green. Let's take a few minutes to assess what

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representatives of the two main parties here at Westminster think we

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might be in for over the next couple of hours. Joining me here outside

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Parliament the Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury and the MP

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for Heartsmere. Welcome to both of you. Oliver, like it or not, this

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day, this Budget, is all through the prism of what is happening on 23rd

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June, isn't it? Well, 23rd June is a way off. We have got four months to

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go. What this is through the prism of is sticking with the long-term

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plan, that's delivering stability for the economy, we have got two

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million more jobs and one million more people moved off benefits and

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it is about investing for the future. I know that's what the

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Chancellor's priority is today. Where is the money, for example, you

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talk about investing for the future, turning schools in England into

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academies, where is that money suddenly coming from? Well, actually

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I think this is what the Chancellor has done right from the very

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beginning. He has taken two big decision, he continued to reduce the

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deficit. You spend less on debt interest. So that gives you more

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money to play with and secondly, if you continue to reform welfare which

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we're doing, saving ?12 billion, rather than spending money on what

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Labour used to call the bills of social failure, we can actually

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invest it for the long-term, that's why we are investing in education

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and I'm pleased by the suggestion we will have Crossrail two and

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investment in high-speed three, that is the sort of thing we need to be

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doing, moving away from that spending that is wasting money on

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things like debt interest to long-term investment in areas to

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improve our infrastructure. Jeremy Corbyn is standing up for the

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first time today. He has got a very daunting task, hasn't he? Well, I

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think it will be a real test For George Osborne today about facing up

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to his own failures. Oliver talks about the costs of failure, the

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housing benefit bill is said to be ?350 million more than George

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Osborne himself forecast last year. As a direct result of a lack of

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house building, the worst record since 1920 and rent prices rising.

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Today, is actually a real test about whether he is going to face up to

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his own failures on the debt on deficit, on exports, which are

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likely to see if he is going to meet his targets, it will take 14 years

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longer. On all of those issues, people are saying are you going to

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face up to the failures and are you going to put the interests of the

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British economy first or your own political ambitions? That's where

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today we want to see a fair Budget, we want to see the poorest not

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bearing the highest cost and the highest burden and we want to see

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one that genuinely invests for the future. Do you stand here confident

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this lunch time that your leader will stand up, will make those

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points, that he will be able to rebut whatever George Osborne

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announces because this is a test for anyone, isn't it? Jeremy Corbyn is,

:24:21.:24:26.

this is his first chance to do this? This is a test and I have every

:24:27.:24:29.

confidence that we are going to be standing up to George Osborne today,

:24:30.:24:33.

not just in the chamber, but we're going to be standing up to him in

:24:34.:24:37.

the media as well because he has failed on so many levels. He has

:24:38.:24:41.

shown that you cannot cut your way to prosperity. If people's wages are

:24:42.:24:48.

?14, if they are worst, ?40 worse off than before the crash in 2008,

:24:49.:24:52.

those are real questions for George Osborne to answer about why women

:24:53.:24:58.

are worse off by.81% of cost of his cuts and why he is cutting support

:24:59.:25:04.

for people with disabilities, 600,000 people are set to be

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affected. Today is a test for George Osborne facing up to his failures.

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Oliver, you mentioned investing in infrastructure and this is also a

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Budget produced by a man who is thinking about trying to get into

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Number Ten? Well, I had the privilege of working for the Prime

:25:26.:25:29.

Minister for five years and I very much hope and expect that he will

:25:30.:25:32.

continue as Prime Minister as he said until the end of the

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Parliament. I think that's quite a way off and actually it is

:25:36.:25:38.

interesting talking about failure, I remember when we came into power, we

:25:39.:25:43.

had the biggest Budget deficit, one of the biggest budget deficits in

:25:44.:25:47.

the western world, borrowing more than we had at any point in our

:25:48.:25:50.

peace time history, we have reduced the deficit by a half, hopefully it

:25:51.:25:54.

will be moving down by two-thirds, we have more jobs being created and

:25:55.:25:57.

that's the record that the Chancellor will be focussing on. You

:25:58.:26:02.

know that debt is a percentage of GDP has risen from 62% to 80% under

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George Osborne. You know he failed to cut the deficit as he said he

:26:08.:26:11.

would. You know he failed on manufacturing. We are now still

:26:12.:26:16.

pre-crisis, not even at pre-crisis levels with manufacturing. You know

:26:17.:26:20.

he failed on all those fronts. 9% of your infrastructure projects have

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been delivered. There is a long way to go. Even the CBI... By having the

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second strongest economy in the entire G7, that's a record which we

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can be proud of. The debate is clearly going to continue. We can

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continue this after the interview. Thank you very much for joining us.

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We will have much more from here over the course of the afternoon as

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you would expect. Huw, back to you. You think it is a boring Budget,

:27:02.:27:11.

this proves that we are in for an interesting time!

:27:12.:27:15.

And you can also access the BBC's range of expert analysis

:27:16.:27:18.

and all the latest Budget news on the BBC website:

:27:19.:27:20.

Let's look at what is going on. I think they are tidying up their

:27:21.:27:30.

session of questions on international development, but it is

:27:31.:27:33.

a full House already because, of course, everyone has been there inn

:27:34.:27:38.

there to book their seats for the Budget Statement. Justine Greening

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finishing this session. Laura is still with me. I mentioned the

:27:45.:27:47.

important context of the referendum coming up in June because clearly,

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for lots of people, watching this today, that is really the context

:27:51.:27:53.

around this speech. For the Government that's the context around

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this speech too. There is no doubt about that and George Osborne as a

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politician likes to trade in big political facts, big political

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headlines and the big political fact right now is that the Government's

:28:06.:28:08.

number one priority is making sure that they win the EU referendum or

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interestingly the way a lot of them see it is not losing the referendum

:28:13.:28:15.

which in a funny way is a different thing. That doesn't mean that the

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Budget is going to be empty of anything that's ambitious or empty

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of anything that makes a difference to people watching this, but what it

:28:26.:28:28.

does mean is that we are unlikely to get many measures that are going to

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give George Osborne real headaches inside his own political party. We

:28:33.:28:37.

are still in the early days of referendum campaign, but it is

:28:38.:28:41.

already extremely fractious inside the Conservative Party. The other

:28:42.:28:44.

big political fact of this Parliament is they've got a very,

:28:45.:28:48.

very small majority and they can be beaten. They have been beaten, they

:28:49.:28:51.

were beaten the other day on George Osborne's plans to have shops in

:28:52.:28:56.

England open for longer on Sundays. So don't expect an empty Budget,

:28:57.:29:00.

don't expect nothing controversial, but we shouldn't expect anything

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that's really going to upset the apple cart on the Conservative

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benches because they are more focussed on trying to keep together

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on the European Union. So on this Budget Day 2016 at

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Westminster, let's take a look at the scene here on the banks of the

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river Thames and the Palace of Westminster and Big Ben about to

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announce that it is drawing up to midday.

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Very soon, we will have Prime Minister's Questions starting. It

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has been a few minutes late starting of late. But maybe the Speaker today

:29:32.:29:36.

will be more strict. Let's go inside the chamber. Questions are still

:29:37.:29:44.

going on and we concede the international development are still

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finishing. Why don't we see whether the Speaker will call the Prime

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Minister. Questions to the Prime Minister.

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CHEERING Number one, Mr Speaker. Thank you,

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Mr Speaker. This morning I spoke to ministerial colleagues and others

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and in addition to my duties in the South ice love further meetings

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later today. And employment falling by over 60% at over 5000 new

:30:12.:30:16.

apprenticeships, Redditch is doing well. I'm holding my third jobs fair

:30:17.:30:21.

in the next few weeks with 25 companies taking part. Would he

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agree we've made a good start but we must not be complacent and continue

:30:26.:30:30.

to get good quality jobs into our regions? I'm very much agreeable

:30:31.:30:36.

with my honourable friend. If we look at the West Midlands and take

:30:37.:30:39.

today's unemployment figures, we can see the claimant count has come down

:30:40.:30:46.

since 2010 by 91,000 people and I'm sure the House would welcome an

:30:47.:30:49.

update on the unemployment figures out today, employment at a new

:30:50.:30:56.

record high of 31.4 million people. Compared with 2010, there are

:30:57.:31:03.

2,370,000 more people in work than when I became Prime Minister and the

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claimant count today, down 18,000 in the last month, figures I'm sure

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will be welcomed right across the House. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Cut

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the Prime Minister tell the House how many people will die from

:31:22.:31:29.

respiratory disease as a result of a pollution be for this country meet

:31:30.:31:34.

its legal obligations on air quality by 2025? I don't have those figures

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to hand but what I do know is that we need to make progress on air

:31:41.:31:44.

quality and that is why we have the new regulations on diesel engines

:31:45.:31:49.

which is helping, the steady decarbonisation of our power sector,

:31:50.:31:54.

which will help, and that's why we do have very strong legislation

:31:55.:31:57.

already in terms of making sure we have clean air particularly in our

:31:58.:32:02.

cities. If I could help the Prime Minister. The sad truth is, half a

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million people will die because of this country's failure to comply

:32:09.:32:12.

with international law on air pollution. Perhaps a good answer

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another question, how much does their pollution cost our economy

:32:16.:32:22.

every year? Of course it costs billions because people are being

:32:23.:32:25.

injured and that is why we have the new clean air zones, we are seeing

:32:26.:32:30.

omissions from cars coming down, and if I give him one example, if we

:32:31.:32:35.

deliver in terms of our carbon reduction plan for electricity

:32:36.:32:38.

generation, we are going to say something like an 85% reduction in

:32:39.:32:45.

carbon between 1990 and 2030, giving us one of the best green record

:32:46.:32:51.

anywhere in the world. The Royal College of physicians estimates that

:32:52.:32:59.

their pollution costs the economy ?20 billion per year. The failure to

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do their pollution is killing people. Only a few days ago, London

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faced a severe smog warning. His friend, the Mayor of London has

:33:09.:33:12.

decided over illegal breach of air quality in the capital every day

:33:13.:33:18.

since 2012, so why can't the Prime Minister Harri up action to make is

:33:19.:33:23.

complied with international law and help the health of the people of

:33:24.:33:28.

this country -- hurry up. The Conservative governments in the

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1950s passed the clean air act and I'm sure it'll be this Conservative

:33:32.:33:34.

Government which take action, including the clear air zones rehab,

:33:35.:33:40.

lower car emissions, and why are we able to do this? Not only because we

:33:41.:33:44.

care about the environment but we have a strong economy to pay for

:33:45.:33:46.

these improvements as we just about to hear. We all welcome the clean

:33:47.:33:53.

air act of 1956. But things have moved on since then.

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LAUGHTER The Government is now being

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threatened with being taken to court for its failure to comply with

:34:09.:34:12.

international law on air pollution. He is proposing to spend tens, if

:34:13.:34:17.

not hundreds of thousands of pounds, public money, defending the

:34:18.:34:21.

indefensible. Why not instead invest that money in cleaner air and better

:34:22.:34:25.

air quality for everyone in this country? We are investing money in

:34:26.:34:31.

cleaner in our country. For instance, we are phasing out the use

:34:32.:34:35.

of coal-fired power stations, far in advance of what other European

:34:36.:34:39.

countries are doing, blazing a trail in terms of more renewable energy,

:34:40.:34:43.

the clean nuclear energy we are going to be investing in, all of

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these things will make a difference but let me say again, you can only

:34:47.:34:49.

do this if you have a strong economy, able to pay for these

:34:50.:34:56.

things. If the Government and the Prime Minister are so keen on

:34:57.:35:00.

renewable and clean energy, could you explain why, on Monday, the

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House approved new regulations to allow communities a veto on clean

:35:06.:35:11.

energy projects like Shaw went, and I have a question from Angela from

:35:12.:35:14.

Lancaster who asks the Prime Minister this. If I was you, I would

:35:15.:35:21.

listen. Will the Prime Minister offer the same rights of veto to her

:35:22.:35:28.

community and community like air of a veto on fracking? We have a proper

:35:29.:35:34.

planning system for deciding these things. If he wants to know what is

:35:35.:35:42.

happening in terms of renewable energy, 99% of the solar panels in

:35:43.:35:46.

this country were installed since I became Prime Minister. That is the

:35:47.:35:52.

record we have. The UK now has the second-largest ultralow emission

:35:53.:35:55.

vehicle market anywhere in the European Union. We've seen one of

:35:56.:35:59.

the strongest growth in renewable energies, but isn't it remarkable,

:36:00.:36:05.

five questions in, and know well, to the fall in unemployment, no mention

:36:06.:36:09.

on the 31 million people now in work, no mention of the fact we have

:36:10.:36:14.

more women, young people, in work, more people bringing home a salary,

:36:15.:36:19.

a wage, and paying less taxes. Not a word from the party I thought was

:36:20.:36:22.

meant to be the party of labour. The party of working people, getting

:36:23.:36:27.

people into work is on this side of the House. Mr Speaker, the questions

:36:28.:36:42.

to the Prime Minister RVs. -- are these. He boasted he led the

:36:43.:36:48.

greatest Government ever. No Husky was safe from his cuddles. So could

:36:49.:36:55.

he explain why the energy and climate change select committee has

:36:56.:36:57.

produced a damning report when it comes to green energy, saying major

:36:58.:37:04.

investors policies as risky as a result of cuts and changes. Why is

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this Government so failing the renewable energy sector, clean air,

:37:10.:37:13.

investors, consumers and those who work in that industry? I think, if

:37:14.:37:21.

any proper look at the figures will find, this Government has a

:37:22.:37:23.

remarkable record in green energy. Let me take the climate action

:37:24.:37:31.

network, they said Britain is the second best country in the world for

:37:32.:37:36.

tackling climate change after Denmark. That is our record. Since

:37:37.:37:42.

2010, we produced greenhouse gases by 14%, over delivering against

:37:43.:37:46.

carbon budgets, securing the first truly global legally binding

:37:47.:37:50.

agreement to tackle climate change and have annual support for

:37:51.:37:54.

renewables, more than doubling to over ?10 billion by 2020, on

:37:55.:37:58.

renewable and it has become on track to deliver our target of at least

:37:59.:38:02.

30% of renewable sources by 2020 and almost all of that would not have

:38:03.:38:06.

happened under a Labour Government. That's our record and we are proud

:38:07.:38:17.

of it. Question two, Mr Speaker. There are some positive things going

:38:18.:38:20.

on in the West Midlands economy and today's figures show employment in

:38:21.:38:25.

the region are up by 140,000 since 2010 and more than 108,000

:38:26.:38:30.

businesses work raged in the region between 2010-14. Thanks to our

:38:31.:38:34.

long-term economic plan for the Midlands engine, we've invested in

:38:35.:38:36.

public services in the West Midlands, helping to build a strong

:38:37.:38:40.

NHS, reform the education system and give the police the resources they

:38:41.:38:46.

need. Unemployment is down again in my beautiful Lichfield. And

:38:47.:38:53.

yesterday, was an absolute first for the West Midlands, when the whole

:38:54.:38:57.

region cooperated to present 33 investment schemes at an

:38:58.:39:03.

international investment creating a further 178,000 jobs. So what more

:39:04.:39:10.

can the Prime Minister do to support the Midlands engine? Apart from

:39:11.:39:13.

insuring, of course, we never get a Labour Government. I'm glad he chose

:39:14.:39:21.

to be here rather than in the South of France. Is right about these 33

:39:22.:39:26.

schemes. Last week we had a deal signed between Chinese investors and

:39:27.:39:32.

an automotive company creating 1000 jobs in Coventry. The Business

:39:33.:39:35.

Secretary was in Staffordshire as Nestle opened a new coffee factory

:39:36.:39:40.

ringing 400 jobs and of course now that historic deal with the West

:39:41.:39:43.

Midlands which will see significant new powers devolved to the combined

:39:44.:39:48.

authority and Mayor, changing the way the country is run, devolving

:39:49.:39:52.

power, building the strength of our great cities and Birmingham is the

:39:53.:40:02.

second city of our country. There is widespread reporting that the UK

:40:03.:40:07.

Government is about to commit to send ground troops to Libya to train

:40:08.:40:11.

Government forces there. Is this true and why has Parliament not been

:40:12.:40:17.

informed about it? Of course, if we had any plans to send conventional

:40:18.:40:21.

forces for training in Libya, it would come to this House and we

:40:22.:40:25.

discuss it. What we want to see the beer is the formation of a unity

:40:26.:40:30.

Government, there progress with the Prime Minister who can lead to a

:40:31.:40:33.

Government of National Accord, and we want to hear from him what

:40:34.:40:37.

assistance and help we think should be given in Libya and countries like

:40:38.:40:42.

Britain, like France, America, Italy, will definitely try and help

:40:43.:40:46.

that new Government because, right now, Libya is a people smuggling

:40:47.:40:50.

route, which is bad for Europe and for us, and also you the growth of

:40:51.:41:01.

Brexit, which is bad for us but we if we had plans for troop

:41:02.:41:05.

deployment, we were discovered in the House. The UK spent 13 times

:41:06.:41:11.

more bombing Libya than securing the peace after the overflow of the

:41:12.:41:18.

hated Gaddafi regime. The critics of UK policy, even include President

:41:19.:41:25.

Obama of the USA, so we'll Prime Minister Erdogan a to bring the

:41:26.:41:29.

issue of any potential Libyan deployment, or any British forces to

:41:30.:41:33.

Parliament, for approval, before giving the green light for that to

:41:34.:41:39.

happen? Will he give back commitment, yes or no? I'm happy to

:41:40.:41:43.

give back but as we always do. I'm very clear that it was right to take

:41:44.:41:49.

action to prevent that slaughter by Colonel Gaddafi would have carried

:41:50.:41:53.

out against his people in Benghazi. I believe that was right. Of course,

:41:54.:41:59.

Libya is in a state which is very concerning right now and everyone

:42:00.:42:02.

has to take their responsibilities for that. What I would say is, after

:42:03.:42:06.

the conflict, the British Government supported the training of Libyan

:42:07.:42:10.

troops, we brought the Libyan Prime Minister to the G8 in Northern

:42:11.:42:13.

Ireland, we went to the UN and passed resolutions to help that

:42:14.:42:16.

Government but so far we have not been able to bring about that

:42:17.:42:20.

Government of national accord, back and bring a semblance of stability

:42:21.:42:24.

and peace to that country but is it in our interest in bad Government do

:42:25.:42:28.

that? Yes, it is, and we should work with others to try to deliver that.

:42:29.:42:38.

Byron Davies. My constituency was once the first time ever by the

:42:39.:42:43.

Conservatives, and it could be transformed along with the rest of

:42:44.:42:47.

the region by the Swansea Bay tidal lagoon. Having signed a 1.2 billion

:42:48.:42:51.

deal yesterday for Cardiff, cut the PM gave an insurance they will do

:42:52.:42:59.

anything to ensure the tidal lagoon project fits the UK energy strategy

:43:00.:43:03.

and that he further recognise the economic potential this would bring

:43:04.:43:06.

to the Swansea Bay region? I thank my honourable friend. I do remember

:43:07.:43:13.

visiting his constituency just after his victory last year. I seem to

:43:14.:43:17.

remember we went to a brewery for a mild celebration. The tidal lagoon

:43:18.:43:22.

does have potential, we launched an independent review of a tidal lagoon

:43:23.:43:25.

power to better understand the technology and we will look

:43:26.:43:28.

carefully at the findings of that review and work closely with the

:43:29.:43:30.

developers to make a decision on Swansea. Wrexham and North Wales is

:43:31.:43:40.

a strong manufacturing and exporting region. But its growth is

:43:41.:43:43.

constrained by lack of access to airports in north-west England. The

:43:44.:43:51.

office for rail regulation is currently considering applications

:43:52.:43:54.

for rail paths from North Wales. Will he support a cross-party

:43:55.:43:59.

campaign for fairness for North Wales and for access to airports in

:44:00.:44:04.

north-west England? The former Secretary of State for Wales, the

:44:05.:44:10.

Honourable member for Clywd West, came to see me recently about this

:44:11.:44:13.

because I think there is a very strong argument for how we can

:44:14.:44:17.

better connect North Wales with the north-west of England and make sure

:44:18.:44:20.

we build on economic strength of both, so I will look carefully at

:44:21.:44:24.

what he says and my right honourable friend says about the potential for

:44:25.:44:30.

increasing rail capacity. James Davis. Lastly, High Court judge

:44:31.:44:38.

ruled in favour of the CPO of the great two star listed former North

:44:39.:44:42.

Wales Hospital in Denbigh, years of neglect by the offshore company

:44:43.:44:45.

owner resulted in the building being brought to the point of collapse.

:44:46.:44:50.

Thanks to the ground-breaking work carried out by Denbighshire County

:44:51.:44:53.

Council and the Princes regeneration trust, their future should now be

:44:54.:44:57.

safeguarded. But what can the Prime Minister do to prevent buildings

:44:58.:45:01.

such as these which are deemed national assets from falling into

:45:02.:45:05.

hands of those who are not fit and proper guardians and particularly

:45:06.:45:07.

those outside the control of our judicial system?

:45:08.:45:12.

My honourable friend makes an important point and I am aware of

:45:13.:45:17.

this case. It is great news that these buildings which I know how

:45:18.:45:20.

important they are will be safeguarded. They were bought by a

:45:21.:45:25.

company and left abandoned and as he says, that's no way to treat a grade

:45:26.:45:29.

II listed building of the that's why we have the powers in place for

:45:30.:45:33.

compulsory purchase orders and I think in this case, Denbighshire

:45:34.:45:37.

Council were right to use them. Councils should have the confidence

:45:38.:45:40.

that they have the measures and when appropriate, they should be prepared

:45:41.:45:43.

to use them. Two weeks ago, in front of the

:45:44.:45:49.

Education Select Committee, the head of Ofsted said that 16 to 19

:45:50.:45:55.

education should be done in a school-based environment and not in

:45:56.:45:59.

a FE institution. He went on to say some pupils head off towards the FE

:46:00.:46:03.

institution, do badly and they get lost and drop out. Does the Prime

:46:04.:46:07.

Minister agree with him? I think we need a range of settings

:46:08.:46:12.

for A-levels and for post 16 study. I would say this, there are a lot of

:46:13.:46:16.

secondary schools in our country who would like to have a sixth form and

:46:17.:46:21.

I think there are great benefits for particularly the 11-year-olds going

:46:22.:46:24.

to secondary school who can look to the top of the school and see what

:46:25.:46:29.

girls and boys are achieving 16, 17, 18, what A-level choices they're

:46:30.:46:34.

making, what futures they are thinking of and for many people it

:46:35.:46:38.

is inspiring to go to a school with a sixth form, let's encourage both

:46:39.:46:43.

and let's have the choice and that's why the academy misation of schools

:46:44.:46:51.

is very important. In apprenticeship Week, I'm sure the Prime Minister

:46:52.:46:56.

will join my thanks to the employers who created 6500 apprenticeships in

:46:57.:47:00.

Gloucester since 2010, in Gloucester Citizen for its support and all the

:47:01.:47:04.

apprentices themselves including my first apprentice, now Gloucester's

:47:05.:47:09.

youngest ever city councillor. Looking forward, would my Right

:47:10.:47:16.

Honourable friend do all he can to hasten the introduction of associate

:47:17.:47:24.

nurses? Well, the south-west has delivered over 280,000

:47:25.:47:27.

apprenticeships start since 2010, so it is pulling its weight and well

:47:28.:47:31.

done to his constituents for doing that. I think he is also right about

:47:32.:47:36.

the introduction of associate nurses, we are working with health

:47:37.:47:42.

education England to take this as another route into nursing.

:47:43.:47:47.

Mr Speaker, according to the statistics provided by the House

:47:48.:47:51.

library, there are 280,000 problem gamblers in the United Kingdom. Can

:47:52.:47:55.

the Prime Minister indicate when the Government will take forward the

:47:56.:47:59.

2010 report prepared for the Department of Culture, media and

:48:00.:48:02.

sport and does the Prime Minister agree that the money from dormant

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betting accounts should be used to support those whose lives have been

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destroyed by gambling? We will study the report carefully. We took some

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action in the last Parliament to deal with problem gambling in terms

:48:16.:48:18.

of the planning system and in terms of the way particularly fixed odds

:48:19.:48:23.

betting terminals worked and I'm happy to keep examining this issue

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and to act on the evidence and I will be discussing with the

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Secretary of State for Culture, media and sport.

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The systematic killing of Christians and other minority groups by the

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so-called Islamic State across the Middle East has reached

:48:43.:48:45.

unprecedented proportions. So the action being taken by Her Majesty's

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Government is just. But what more will my Right Honourable friend do

:48:50.:48:53.

working with the international community to halt this genocide

:48:54.:48:58.

being committed against Christians by what I call the satanic State? My

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honourable friend is right to draw atonings what Daesh is doing in

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terms of persecuting Christians and not least others of other faiths and

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Muslims who they take disagreement with. What we must do is keep to the

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plan. We can see that we have shrunk the amount of territory Daesh have

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in Iraq by 40%, we are seeing also some progress in Syria as well, but

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this is going to take time and we must show the patience and the

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persistence to make sure we rid the world of this evil death cult. The

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Prime Minister's energy policy is a complete shambles. It is wholly

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dependant on the troubled and expensive nuclear plant at Hinkley.

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There is barely a Plan A let alone a Plan B. Is the Prime Minister

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seeking to build the world's most expensive power station or the

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world's biggest white elephant? We are planning on continuing with the

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successful energy policy which is seeing cheaper energy and lower

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carbon at the same time. The strength of the Hinkley deal is

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there is no payment unless this power station goes ahead and is

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built efficiently by EDF and I think that will be good for our energy

:50:12.:50:17.

supplies because if you want to have energy at low-cost and low-carbon,

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you need to have strong nuclear energy at the heart of your system.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. Research UK situated in my constituency is the

:50:33.:50:41.

world's first charity to acle anti-my robial resistance. Would the

:50:42.:50:44.

Prime Minister agree to meet with me to see how we can fund their vital

:50:45.:50:49.

research so that this time, it is not the Americans that save the

:50:50.:50:54.

world, but the British? I am happy to meet with my honourable friend.

:50:55.:50:59.

He is right to raise this issue, because of the resistance to

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antibiotics and antibiotics aren't working, we do face a genuine

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medical emergency around the world. That is why Britain must put this

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issue squarely on the agenda of the G20, why it was a large part of our

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discussions with the Chinese when they made the State visit last year

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and why we are investing ?50 million in an innovation fund working with

:51:23.:51:25.

the Chinese Government to take this forward and I hope the organisation

:51:26.:51:28.

in his constituency can benefit from solicitor of the research.

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Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister will know his Home Secretary is once

:51:33.:51:37.

again trying to deport Afghan interpreters seeking sanctuary in

:51:38.:51:40.

the United Kingdom. These brave people risked their lives, serving

:51:41.:51:44.

our armed forces, yet they now face being sent back for mercy of the

:51:45.:51:49.

Taliban and to join hundreds of thousands of people rotting in

:51:50.:51:52.

refugee camps. Is this how Britain should we pay those who put their

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lives on the line for us? Will he do the right thing and do whatever

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possible to ensure they are offered safe haven here? Well, what we did

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in the last Government in which his party played a role was that we

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agreed a set of conditions for Afghan interpreters to be able to

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come to the UK and be given sanctuary, but we provided for a

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scheme so those who wanted to stay and help rebuild their country were

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able to do so and I would defend that scheme even if his party

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changed its mind. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My

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constituent Deborah Read and her sister watched her mother waste away

:52:36.:52:41.

in hospital after a fall. Last week my Right Honourable friend the

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Health Secretary host add global summit on patient safety and

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announced the creation of the new healthcare safety investigation

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branch. What more can the Government do to ensure patient safety is at

:52:52.:52:55.

the heart of the NHS and prevent such instances occurring in the

:52:56.:52:58.

future? I think my honourable friend is

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right to raise cases like this and obviously they are horrendous when

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they take place and they should be properly investigated. We need to

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learn the lessons from them. We have made some progress, the proportion

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of patients being harmed in the NHS has dropped by over a third in the

:53:13.:53:18.

last two years and MRSA, blood stream infections have fallen by

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over half in the last five years. The Health Secretary is right to

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hold this conference and to examine what other industries and practises

:53:29.:53:33.

have done in order to have a 100%, you know, zero accident safety

:53:34.:53:36.

culture. We have seen this in other walks of life and it is time we

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aplayed it to the NHS. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Just eight

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days ago, Oliver Tetlo popped to the shops and he was brutally shot dead.

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The community are shocked and saddened by this murder of an

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innocent young man. They have asked for more community local policing

:53:56.:53:59.

and more youth engagement. Will the Prime Minister meet with me and some

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community champions to discuss how we can make our streets safer?

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The honourable lady raises a very important point and what we have

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seen in London, is actually a reduction in gun crime. It is a

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tragic case she refers to and our hearts go out to the family of the

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person that she talks about. But we have seen a reduction. We have seen

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more active policing in our communities, better intelligence

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policing in terms of dealing with gun crimes and we must keep that up

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and I will certainly arrange whatever meeting I think is best to

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ensure the voices she mentioned are listened to.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. As my Right Honourable friend will be aware,

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highways England are consulting on a new lower Thames crossing with their

:54:43.:54:47.

preferred option being option C which will divert 14% of traffic

:54:48.:54:51.

away from the existing the Dartford Crossing. Before spending billions

:54:52.:54:54.

on the new crossing, we should sort out the problem at the existing

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crossing? Not only helping a greater number of motorists, but to improve

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illegal levels of poor air quality, and restore resilience to the M25

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motorway network and will he meet with me to discuss these matters

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further? We need to tackle congestion and air

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quality and actually stationary traffic is more polluting than

:55:18.:55:22.

moving traffic so sorting out the problems at the existing the

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Dartford Crossing is important, but we have got to look at the options

:55:26.:55:29.

for a new crossing. Two locations are on the table as a result of

:55:30.:55:33.

early detailed work and these are the best available ogsesment

:55:34.:55:38.

highways England looked in detail at both locations in terms of their

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look forward to seeing what they look forward to seeing what they

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recommend and when they do, I hope we can make progress. We need the

:55:45.:55:52.

traffic to be flowing smoothly. On reflection, was it wise of the

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chancellor to bank on the theory of a ?27 billion windfall when it has

:55:57.:56:00.

only vanished in the space of the last three months?

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We will be hearing a lot from the Chancellor in a minute or two, but

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what would I would say we have got an economy which is fundamentally

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strong, facing a very difficult set of world circumstances, but here in

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Britain, when you look at it, unemployment at 5%, inflation at

:56:17.:56:21.

virtually 0%, the unemployment figures today showing unemployment

:56:22.:56:24.

falling again and wages growing at 2%. That is a better record than

:56:25.:56:29.

most other countries in the developed world can boast and a lot

:56:30.:56:33.

is down to the very clear plan set out by my Right Honourable friend

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and followed these last six years. Last week was English tourism week

:56:41.:56:44.

and I was delighted to welcome an international deggation to the Eden

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Project to promote Cornwall as a destination for international

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tourists, visitor numbers are up in Cornwall, but there is still more we

:56:53.:56:57.

can do to attract overseas visitors out of London and into our country.

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Can I ask the Prime Minister what more the Government can do to

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promote the tourist and to get more overseas visitors to come to

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Cornwall? There is, as far as I'm concerned, nothing finer than

:57:09.:57:11.

getting out of London and getting down to Cornwall and no better place

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than the beach when the sun is setting and the waves are big! And

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my phone is working! He is right, and the Daily Mail photographer has

:57:25.:57:28.

gone home too. That is helps! But what we need to do get people who

:57:29.:57:33.

come to our country, to spend sometime outside London and that is

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what some of the new schemes we have announced like for instance, the ?40

:57:38.:57:41.

million Discover England fund are all about and I would urge the

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authorities in Cornwall to make the most of it.

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Mr Speaker, in 2014, we exported ?12.8 billion worth of food

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products. With 73% of that total going to other European States. No

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wonder that 71% of Food and Drink Federation members want us to avoid

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Brexit. Does the Prime Minister think that our prospects of

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improving further the export profile of food manufacturing will be

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strengthened by staying in the European Union?

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Well, I think the view from food manufacturers and indeed, from

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farmers and from the wider business community.81% of whom yesterday said

:58:25.:58:28.

they wanted to stay in a reform Europe I think is very clear and the

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arguments on food are clearment our farmers produce some of the cleanest

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and best food anywhere in the world and they know they have access to a

:58:36.:58:40.

market of 500 million consumers without tariffs, without quotas and

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without any problems and we shouldn't put that at risk. And when

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we look at some of the alternatives to being a part of the single

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market, for instance, a Canadian-style free trade deal we

:58:53.:58:54.

can see there are restrictions for instance quotas on beef and I don't

:58:55.:58:57.

want to see that applying to British farmers who have got so much to be

:58:58.:58:59.

proud of. Does my Right Honourable friend

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agree that having an inspirational mentor can provide young people with

:59:16.:59:20.

the opportunities they would never have benefited from before? Can he

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tell me how the ?14 million that the Government will be putting into a

:59:28.:59:31.

new national mentoring scheme will be able to benefit some of the most

:59:32.:59:34.

disadvantaged children in our society?

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I agree with my Right Honourable friend. One of the most important

:59:41.:59:43.

things that our schools can look to do in the future is to encourage,

:59:44.:59:48.

mentors from business, from the public sector, from charities, into

:59:49.:59:51.

their schools to give that extra one on one help that young people so

:59:52.:59:57.

benefit from. I was at an academy in Southwark yesterday to see how well

:59:58.:00:00.

that is going, where every child studying GCSEs who wants a mentor,

:00:01.:00:04.

can get them and I think it makes a huge difference to those children's

:00:05.:00:08.

life chances. The ?14 million we're putting in should allow an extra

:00:09.:00:12.

25,000 of the most disadvantaged people in our country have a mentor

:00:13.:00:15.

and I would urge all schools to look at this. I think there are so many

:00:16.:00:19.

people in business, in the public sector, in charities, would love to

:00:20.:00:22.

take part in this and help young people achieve their potential.

:00:23.:00:27.

The Prime Minister likes to suggest he's a champion of localism but

:00:28.:00:32.

today his Government is seeking to guide local communities with a crass

:00:33.:00:37.

forced academies policy that stamps out local consultation and dissent.

:00:38.:00:40.

Can he explain to the vast majority of parents and residents in Brighton

:00:41.:00:46.

and Hove Albion recently rejected academy status for two local

:00:47.:00:49.

schools, why it is that their views count for nothing in the future? I

:00:50.:00:54.

would argue that academy schools are to devolution because you end up

:00:55.:00:59.

with the parents, the governors, the head teacher having full control of

:01:00.:01:03.

the school, able to make decisions about the future about school and at

:01:04.:01:07.

that does not convince her, I would say look at the results. That you

:01:08.:01:11.

look at primary sponsored academies you can see they have got better

:01:12.:01:15.

records and are improving faster, if you look at the converter academy

:01:16.:01:20.

schools, 88% rated good outstanding, to devolution on making sure every

:01:21.:01:26.

headteacher is in charge of their school providing the great education

:01:27.:01:34.

we want for our children. My constituents Jackie Woodcock has got

:01:35.:01:39.

terminal breast cancer, she has shown outstanding courage in her

:01:40.:01:42.

fight against the disease but unfortunately she did not get the

:01:43.:01:45.

support or compassion of her employer who wanted to dismiss it

:01:46.:01:49.

through capability procedures. Now her former partner is trying to get

:01:50.:01:56.

the House they own repossessed, leaving her homeless, whilst dying.

:01:57.:01:59.

With the Prime Minister Erdogan with me that we require better protection

:02:00.:02:04.

for working people who are diagnosed with a terminal illness and will you

:02:05.:02:08.

join with me and Jackie in supporting the changes as outlined

:02:09.:02:13.

in the TUC's dying to work campaign? I think the point is my honourable

:02:14.:02:17.

friend makes is right, and I will look carefully at the case she

:02:18.:02:20.

raises full from the truth is, in all of these things, as well as

:02:21.:02:26.

having clear rules, we also need organisations, employers, housing

:02:27.:02:30.

associations, landlords, indeed trade unions, to act with genuine

:02:31.:02:34.

compassion, and to think of the human being at the other end of the

:02:35.:02:40.

telephone. Order. Prime Minister's Questions comes to an end and as a

:02:41.:02:44.

traditional on Budget Day, the senior Deputy Speaker takes the

:02:45.:02:49.

chair, the chairman of ways and Means, the old Parliamentary

:02:50.:02:52.

committee which traditionally scrutinised financial measures and

:02:53.:02:55.

they're getting ready now and for the Budget statement by the

:02:56.:02:58.

Chancellor, George Osborne. Let's join proceedings. Order, before I

:02:59.:03:04.

call the Chancellor of the Exchequer, I remind Honourable

:03:05.:03:06.

members copies of the Budget resolutions will be available to

:03:07.:03:10.

them in the office at the end of the Chancellor's speech. It also remind

:03:11.:03:16.

Honourable members not it is not the norm to intervene on the Chancellor

:03:17.:03:20.

of the Exchequer or the Leader of the Opposition. I now call the right

:03:21.:03:23.

Honourable George Osborne, Chancellor of the Exchequer.

:03:24.:03:31.

Mr Deputy Speaker, today I report on an economy set to grow faster than

:03:32.:03:38.

any other major advanced economy in the world. I report on a labour

:03:39.:03:45.

market delivering the highest employment in our history. And I

:03:46.:03:49.

report on a deficit down by two thirds, falling each year, and I can

:03:50.:03:55.

confirm today on course for a Budget surplus. The British economy is

:03:56.:04:03.

stronger because we confronted our country's problems and took the

:04:04.:04:07.

difficult decisions. The British economy is growing because we didn't

:04:08.:04:14.

seek short-term fixes, but pursued a long-term economic plan. The British

:04:15.:04:21.

economy is resilient because whatever the challenge, however

:04:22.:04:24.

strong the headwinds, we have held to the course we set out. I must

:04:25.:04:28.

tell the House that we face such a challenge now. Financial markets are

:04:29.:04:34.

turbulent, productivity growth across the West is too low, and the

:04:35.:04:39.

outlook for the global economy is weak, it makes for a dangerous

:04:40.:04:43.

cocktail of risks, but one that Britain is well prepared to handle

:04:44.:04:51.

if we act now so we don't pay later. Mr Deputy Speaker, Britain has

:04:52.:04:54.

learnt to its cost what happens when you base your economic policy on the

:04:55.:04:58.

assumption you have abolished boom and bust. Britain is not immune to

:04:59.:05:04.

slowdowns and shocks and nor is the nation powerless, we have a choice.

:05:05.:05:11.

We can choose to add to the risk and uncertainty or choose to be a force

:05:12.:05:14.

of stability, in this Budget we choose to put stability first.

:05:15.:05:21.

Britain can choose, as others are, short-term fixes and more stimulus

:05:22.:05:26.

or lead the world with long-term solutions, for long-term problems.

:05:27.:05:31.

In this Budget, we choose the long term, we choose to put the

:05:32.:05:36.

next-generation first. We choose, as Conservatives should always choose,

:05:37.:05:39.

sound public finances to deliver security. Lower taxes on his knees

:05:40.:05:47.

and enterprise, to create jobs, reform, improve schools, investment

:05:48.:05:50.

to build homes and infrastructure because we know that's the only way

:05:51.:05:55.

to deliver real opportunity and social mobility. And, as

:05:56.:06:00.

Conservatives, the best way we can help working people is to help them

:06:01.:06:04.

to save and let them keep more of the money they earn. Now that is the

:06:05.:06:10.

path we followed over the past five years and it's given us one of the

:06:11.:06:13.

strongest economies in the world. And that is the path we will follow

:06:14.:06:18.

in the years ahead, in this Budget we will redouble our efforts to make

:06:19.:06:23.

Britain fit for the future. Mr Deputy Speaker, let me turn to the

:06:24.:06:27.

economic forecasts. I want to thank Robert choke and the Office for

:06:28.:06:32.

Budget Responsibility to make sure they have available to them the best

:06:33.:06:36.

statistics in the world, I'm accepting all of the recommendations

:06:37.:06:41.

of Sir Charlie Bean's excellent rapport and I want to take this

:06:42.:06:46.

moment to thank another great public servant, Sir Nicholas Macpherson,

:06:47.:06:49.

who has served as Permanent Secretary to the Treasury for ten

:06:50.:06:53.

years under three very different Chancellor's and, throughout Commies

:06:54.:06:57.

always demonstrated the great British civil service values of

:06:58.:07:01.

integrity and impartiality. He is here today to watch the last of 34

:07:02.:07:07.

Budget he's worked on and on behalf of the House and the dedicated

:07:08.:07:11.

Treasury I thank him for his service. The OBR tell us today in

:07:12.:07:19.

every year the forecast our economy grows and so too does our

:07:20.:07:22.

productivity. But they have revised down growth in the world economy and

:07:23.:07:28.

in world trade full in their words, the outlook is materially weaker.

:07:29.:07:32.

They point to the turbulence in financial markets, slower growth in

:07:33.:07:36.

emerging economies like China, and a weak growth across the developed

:07:37.:07:41.

world. Around the globe, they note that monetary policy, instead of

:07:42.:07:44.

normalising this year as expected, has been loosened, we've seen the

:07:45.:07:51.

bank of Japan join Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland and the European Central

:07:52.:07:54.

Bank with unprecedented negative interest rates, the OBR also note

:07:55.:07:59.

this reflects concerns across the West about low productivity growth.

:08:00.:08:04.

The secretary-general of the OECD said last month productivity growth

:08:05.:08:09.

has been decelerating in a vast majority of countries and, as a

:08:10.:08:13.

result, the most significant change, the OBR has made since the November

:08:14.:08:18.

forecast, it is their decision to revise down potential UK

:08:19.:08:22.

productivity growth. The had thought that what they described as the drag

:08:23.:08:27.

from the financial crisis on our productivity would have eased by

:08:28.:08:31.

now, but the latest status shows it does not. The OBR acknowledged today

:08:32.:08:36.

that this revision is in their own words a highly uncertain judgment

:08:37.:08:42.

call but I back than 100%. We saw under the last Labour Government

:08:43.:08:45.

what happened when Chancellor revised upward trend growth rate,

:08:46.:08:50.

spent money the country did not have, and left it to the next

:08:51.:08:54.

generation to pick up the bill. I am not going to let that happen on my

:08:55.:09:02.

watch. Now these days, thanks to the fact we have established independent

:09:03.:09:06.

forecasts, our country is confronted with the truth as economic

:09:07.:09:10.

challenges emerge and can act on them before it's too late. We fix

:09:11.:09:15.

our plans to fit the figures, we don't fix the figures to fit the

:09:16.:09:22.

plans. The IMF have warned us this month that the global economy is at

:09:23.:09:27.

a delicate juncture and faces a growing risk of economic derailment.

:09:28.:09:32.

Eight years ago, Britain was the worst prepared of any other major

:09:33.:09:37.

economies for the crisis we then faced. Today, Britain is amongst the

:09:38.:09:40.

best prepared for whatever challenges may lie ahead. And that

:09:41.:09:45.

is what our long-term economic plan has all been about. When I became

:09:46.:09:53.

Chancellor, we borrowed ?1 in every four we spent. Next day, it'll be ?1

:09:54.:09:58.

in every 14 that we spend. Our banks have doubled their capital ratios,

:09:59.:10:03.

we have doubled our foreign exchange reserves, and we have a clear

:10:04.:10:08.

consistent and accountable monetary policy framework around the world.

:10:09.:10:13.

The hard work of fixing our economy is paying off. In 2014, we were the

:10:14.:10:18.

fastest major growing advanced economy in the world. In 2015, we

:10:19.:10:24.

were ahead of everyone that America. So let me give the OBR's latest

:10:25.:10:30.

forecast for economic growth in the face of the new assessment

:10:31.:10:33.

productivity and a slowing global economy. Last year, GDP grew by

:10:34.:10:40.

2.2%. The OBR now forecast it will grow by 2% this year and then 2.2%

:10:41.:10:48.

again in 2017 and then 2.1% in each of the three years after that. The

:10:49.:10:53.

House will want to know how this compares to other countries. I can

:10:54.:11:01.

confirm that in these turbulent times, the latest international

:11:02.:11:03.

forecast expects Britain to grow faster this year than any other

:11:04.:11:12.

major advanced economy in the world. Mr Deputy Speaker, the OBR are

:11:13.:11:20.

explicit today that their forecasts are predicated on Britain remaining

:11:21.:11:26.

in the European Union. Over the next... Over the next few months

:11:27.:11:34.

this country is going to debate the merits of leaving all remaining in

:11:35.:11:38.

the European Union. I have many colleagues who I respect greatly on

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both sides of the argument. The OBR correctly state out of the political

:11:45.:11:48.

debate and they do not assess the long-term costs and benefits of EU

:11:49.:11:53.

membership but they do say this and I quote them directly, "A voter to

:11:54.:11:58.

leave in the forthcoming referendum could usher in an extended period of

:11:59.:12:03.

uncertainty regarding the precise terms of the UK's future

:12:04.:12:06.

relationship with the EU." They go on to say, "This club have negative

:12:07.:12:12.

implications for activity by business and consumer confidence and

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might result in greater volatility in financial and other asset

:12:17.:12:20.

markets." They cite a number of external reports, the OBR say this,

:12:21.:12:26.

"There appears to be a greater consensus that a vote to leave would

:12:27.:12:31.

result in a period potentially disruptive uncertainty while the

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precise details of the UK's new relationship with the EU were

:12:36.:12:40.

negotiated." The House knows my view, Britain will be stronger,

:12:41.:12:44.

safer and better off in the side a reformed European Union. I believe

:12:45.:12:50.

it should not put at risk all the hard work the British people have

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done to make our economy strong again. Mr Deputy Speaker... Order.

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Let's be honest, we all want to hear what the Chancellor has got to say.

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Some people may agree and some people may disagree, but I want to

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hear him. The electorate want to hear him. This country wants to hear

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him. Chancellor. Let me turn to the OBR forecast for the labour market.

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Since the Autumn Statement four months ago, we've created over 150

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more jobs than the OBR expected -- 150,000 jobs extra families with the

:13:34.:13:39.

security of work, 150,000 reasons to support a la long-term economic

:13:40.:13:44.

plan. This morning, unemployment fell again. It reached the highest

:13:45.:13:49.

level ever and the data confirmed we have the lowest proportion of people

:13:50.:13:56.

claiming out of work benefits since November 1974. The OBR are

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forecasting 1 million more jobs over this Parliament, and we remember

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what our political opponents said in the last parliament. They claimed 1

:14:10.:14:15.

million jobs would be lost. Instead, 2 million were created. And when the

:14:16.:14:19.

jobs started coming, we were told they would be low skilled. But

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today, we know almost 90% of new jobs are instilled occupations that

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in skilled occupations. Jobs we were told were going to part-time but

:14:31.:14:34.

three quarters are full-time, Weaver told jobs would all be in London but

:14:35.:14:39.

the unemployment rate is falling fastest in the north-east, youth

:14:40.:14:42.

unemployment is falling fast in the West Midlands can't employment is

:14:43.:14:47.

going fastest in the north-west. In today's forecast real wages continue

:14:48.:14:51.

to grow and inflation in each and every

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Mr Deputy Speaker, the OBR forecasts lower inflation, 0.7% this year and

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1.6% next year. I am today confirming in a letter to the

:15:06.:15:08.

governor of the Bank of England that the remit for the Monetary Policy

:15:09.:15:13.

Committee remains the se meet trick CPI inflation target of 2%. I'm also

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publishing the new remit for the financial policy committee, the body

:15:19.:15:22.

we created to keep an eye on emerging long-term risks in our

:15:23.:15:26.

financial system, I'm asking them to be particularly vigilant in the face

:15:27.:15:30.

of current market turbulence because in this Budget, we act now, so we

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don't pay later. Mr Deputy Speaker, that brings me to

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our approach to public spending and the OBR forecasts for our public

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finances. In every year since 2010, I have been told by the opposition

:15:44.:15:48.

that now is not the right time to cut Government spending. When the

:15:49.:15:51.

economy is growing, I'm told, we can afford to spend more. When the

:15:52.:15:55.

economy isn't growing I'm told we can't afford not to. Today I'm

:15:56.:15:59.

publishing new analysis that shows that if we hadn't taken the action

:16:00.:16:05.

we did in 2010 and listened to our opponents, then borrowing would have

:16:06.:16:11.

been ?930 billion more by the end of the decade than it is now forecast

:16:12.:16:15.

today. If we had taken their advice,

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Britain would not have been one of the best economies for the current

:16:22.:16:24.

global uncertainties, we would have been one of the worst prepared. Now,

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the very same people are saying to us, we should spend more again.

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I reject that dangerous advice. The security of families and businesses

:16:40.:16:42.

depends on Britain living within its means. Last autumn's Spending Review

:16:43.:16:49.

delivers a reduction in Government consumption that is judged by the

:16:50.:16:53.

OBR to be the most sustained under taken in the last 100 years of

:16:54.:16:58.

British history barring the periods of demobilisation after the first

:16:59.:17:03.

and Second World Wars, my spending plans in the last Parliament reduce

:17:04.:17:09.

the share of income from the 45% we inherited to 40% today. My spending

:17:10.:17:13.

plans in this Parliament will see it fall to 36.9% by the end of this

:17:14.:17:18.

decade. In other words, the country will be spending no more than the

:17:19.:17:24.

country raises in taxes. We are achieving this while at the same

:17:25.:17:28.

time increasing resources for our NHS and schools, building new

:17:29.:17:32.

infrastructure, and increasing our security at home and abroad. The OBR

:17:33.:17:38.

now tells us that the world has become more uncertain so we have two

:17:39.:17:41.

option. We can ignore the latest information and spend more than the

:17:42.:17:45.

one can afford, that's precisely the mistake that was made a decade ago,

:17:46.:17:51.

or we can live in the world as it is and cut our cloth accordingly. I say

:17:52.:17:57.

we act now, so we don't pay later. I'm asking the Chief Secretary and

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the Paymaster General to undertake a further drive for efficiency and

:18:02.:18:05.

value for money. The aim is to save a further ?3.5 billion in the year

:18:06.:18:12.

2019 ssh 20 and less than 0.5% of Government spending in four years

:18:13.:18:17.

time, that is more than achievable while maintaining the protebss we

:18:18.:18:19.

have set out. At the same time we will continue to deliver sensible

:18:20.:18:22.

reforms to keep Britain living within its means. On welfare, last

:18:23.:18:27.

week, the Secretary of State for Work and pensions set out changes

:18:28.:18:32.

that will ensure that within the rising disability budget support is

:18:33.:18:36.

better targeted at those who need it most. Let me confirm, that this

:18:37.:18:40.

means the disability budget will rise by more than ?1 billion, we

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will be spending more in real terms supporting disabled people than at

:18:50.:18:52.

any point under the last Labour Government. On international aid, I

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am proud to be part of the Government that was the first to

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honour Britain's commitment to spend 0.7% of Britain's income on

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development. We won't spend more than that, the budget will be

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readjusted saving ?650 million in 2019/20. We will keep public sector

:19:14.:19:17.

pensions sustainable. We reformed them in the last Parliament which

:19:18.:19:21.

will save over ?400 billion in the long-term. To ensure those pensions

:19:22.:19:26.

remain sustainable, we've carried out the regular revaluation of the

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discount rate and the public sector employer contributions will rise as

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a result. This will not affect anyone's pension and will be

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affordable within spending plans that are benefiting from the fiscal

:19:39.:19:44.

windfall of lower inflation. Each of these decisions are a demonstration

:19:45.:19:48.

of our determinedation that the British economy will stay on course

:19:49.:19:53.

and we will not burden our children and grandchildren. This is a Budget

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for the next generation. Mr Deputy Speaker, let me give the OBR's

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forecasts for the debt and the deficit. The combination of our

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action to reduce borrowing this year along with the revisions to our

:20:09.:20:14.

nominal GDP driven by lower inflation produced this por

:20:15.:20:17.

docksical result, the national debt is lower than it was forecast to be

:20:18.:20:22.

in the autumn. But so too is the nominal size of our economy. We

:20:23.:20:26.

measure the fiscal target against debt to GDP. So while debt as a

:20:27.:20:31.

percentage of GDP is above target and set to be higher in 2015/16 than

:20:32.:20:37.

the year before compared to the forecast, the actual level of our

:20:38.:20:40.

national debt is in cash, ?9 billion lower. In the future, debt falls to

:20:41.:20:52.

82.6% next year then.81.3% in 2017/18 and then 79.9% the year

:20:53.:20:58.

after and in 2019/20, it falls again to 77.2% and down again the year

:20:59.:21:04.

after to 74.7%. Let me turn to the forecasts for the deficit. When I

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became chancellor, the deficit we inherited was forecast to reach

:21:10.:21:14.

11.1% of national income. The highest level in the peace time

:21:15.:21:20.

history of Britain. Thanks our sustained action, the

:21:21.:21:24.

deficit is forecast to fall next year to just over a quarter of that

:21:25.:21:33.

at 2.9%. In 2017/18, it falls to 1.9%. Then it falls again to 1% in

:21:34.:21:41.

2018/19. In cash terms, in 2010, British borrowing was a totally

:21:42.:21:46.

unsustainable ?150 billion a year. This year we are expected to borrow

:21:47.:21:51.

less than half of that at ?72.2 billion. Indeed, our borrowing this

:21:52.:21:56.

year is lower than the OBR forecast in the amount. Borrowing continues

:21:57.:22:02.

to fall, but not by as much as before to ?55.5 billion next year,

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?38.8 billion the year after that and ?21.4 billion in 2018/19. Now, I

:22:08.:22:13.

know there has been concern that the challenging economic times mean we

:22:14.:22:16.

would lose our surplus the following year and that would have been the

:22:17.:22:20.

case if we had not taken further action today to control spending and

:22:21.:22:26.

make savings. But because we have acted decisively, in 2019/20,

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Britain is set to have a surplus of ?10.4 billion.

:22:32.:22:36.

That surplus is set to rise to ?11 billion the year after, that's 0.5%

:22:37.:22:41.

of GDP in both years. We said we would take the action necessary to

:22:42.:22:45.

give Britain's families economic security. We said our country would

:22:46.:22:50.

not repeat the mistakes of the past and instead live within our means.

:22:51.:22:55.

Today, we maintain that commitment to long-term stability, in

:22:56.:22:59.

challenging times, decisive action to achieve a ?10 billion surplus, we

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act now so we don't pay later, we put the next generation first.

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Mr Deputy Speaker, in every Budget I've given, action against tax

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avoidance and evasion has contributed to the repair of our

:23:18.:23:21.

public finances and this Budget is no different. In the red book, we

:23:22.:23:28.

set out in detail the action we will take to shutdown, disguised renone

:23:29.:23:32.

ration schemes, to ensure the UK tax will be paid on UK property

:23:33.:23:37.

development. We changed the treatment of free plays for remote

:23:38.:23:42.

gaming providers, we limit capital tax treatments and cap exempt gains

:23:43.:23:47.

in the employee shareholder status, public sector organisations will

:23:48.:23:51.

have a new duty to ensure those working for them pay the correct tax

:23:52.:23:55.

rather than giving a tax advantage to those who choose to contract

:23:56.:23:59.

their work through personal service companies. Loans to participators

:24:00.:24:06.

will be taxed at 32.5%, to prevent tax avoidance and we will tighten

:24:07.:24:09.

rules around the use of termination payments. Termination payments over

:24:10.:24:16.

?30,000 are already subject to income tax from 2018 they will

:24:17.:24:21.

attract employer national insurance. Taken together, the further steps in

:24:22.:24:26.

this Budget to stop tax evasion and prevent tax avoidance and tackle

:24:27.:24:30.

imbalances in the system will raise ?12 billion for our country over

:24:31.:24:35.

this Parliament. The party opposite talked about social justice, but

:24:36.:24:40.

left enormous loopholes in our tax system for the very richest to

:24:41.:24:45.

exploit. While the independent statistics confirm that under this

:24:46.:24:49.

Prime Minister, child poverty is down. Pensioner poverty is down.

:24:50.:24:55.

Inequality is down. And the gender pay gap has never been smaller.

:24:56.:25:02.

The distributional analysis published today shows that the

:25:03.:25:05.

proportion of welfare and public services going to the poorest has

:25:06.:25:10.

been protected and I can report that the latest figures confirm the

:25:11.:25:17.

richest 1% paid 28% of all income tax revenue, a higher proportion

:25:18.:25:21.

than in any single year of the last Labour Government.

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Proof that we are all in this together.

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So... THE DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is strange

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that we can't hear your own Chancellor of the Exchequer. I want

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to hear, I'm sure you must do as well. The Chancellor of the

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Exchequer. So Mr Deputy Speaker, I can report

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solid steady growth, more jobs, lower inflation, and an economy on

:25:52.:25:55.

course for a surplus, and all done in a fair way, a Britain prepared

:25:56.:25:59.

for whatever the world throws at us because we've stuck to our long-term

:26:00.:26:08.

economic plan. Mr Deputy Speaker, credible fiscal policy and affected

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monetary policy has only ever been part of our plan, a crucial

:26:13.:26:16.

ingredient has always been the lasting structural reforms needed to

:26:17.:26:19.

make our economy fit for the future and with new risks on the horizon

:26:20.:26:23.

and with all western countries looking for ways to increase living

:26:24.:26:27.

standards, now is not the time to go easy on our structural reforms. It

:26:28.:26:32.

is time to redouble our efforts. My Budget's last year delivered key

:26:33.:26:38.

improvements to productivity, by the apprenticeship levy, lower

:26:39.:26:40.

corporation tax and the national Living Wage. My Budget this year

:26:41.:26:46.

sets out these further bold steps we need to take. One, fundamental

:26:47.:26:53.

reform of the business tax system, loopholes closed, reliefs reduced,

:26:54.:26:58.

but so too rates, a huge boost for small business and enterprise. Two,

:26:59.:27:02.

a radical devolution of power so more of the responsibility and the

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rewards of economic growth are in the hands of local communities.

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Three, major new commitments to the national infrastructure projects of

:27:12.:27:15.

the future. Four, confronting the obstacles that stand in the way of

:27:16.:27:18.

important improvements to education and our children's future. And five,

:27:19.:27:23.

backing people who work hard and save. In short, this Budget puts the

:27:24.:27:28.

next generation first and I take each step in turn. Mr Deputy

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Speaker, in the last Parliament, I cut corporation tax dramatically,

:27:36.:27:38.

but I also introduced the diverted profits tax to catch those trying to

:27:39.:27:41.

shift profits overseas. As a result, Britain went from one of the least

:27:42.:27:46.

competitive business tax regimes to one of the most competitive and we

:27:47.:27:50.

raised much more money for our public services. Today the financial

:27:51.:27:53.

second and I are publishing a road map to make Britain's business tax

:27:54.:27:57.

system fit for the future. It will deliver a low tax regime that will

:27:58.:28:01.

attract the multinational businesses we want to see in Britain, but

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ensure they pay taxes here too. Soing that never happened under a

:28:06.:28:11.

Labour Government. And it will level the playing field which has been

:28:12.:28:15.

tilted against small firms. The approach we take is guided by the

:28:16.:28:21.

best practise set out by the OECD, work which Britain called for and

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Britain paid and Britain will be among the very first to implement.

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First, some multinationals over borrow in the UK. So from April next

:28:34.:28:38.

year, we will restrict interest deductibility for the largest

:28:39.:28:42.

companies at 30% of UK earnings while making sure firms whose

:28:43.:28:46.

activities justify higher borrowing are protected with a group ratio

:28:47.:28:55.

rule. Next, we are setting new hybrid mismatch rules which allow

:28:56.:29:00.

some multinationals to avoid paying tax anywhere or to deduct the same

:29:01.:29:06.

expenses in more than one country. Some firms shift money to tax havens

:29:07.:29:10.

and lastly, we are going to modernise the way we treat losses.

:29:11.:29:15.

We're going to allow firms to use losses more flexibly in a way that

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will help over # 0,000 British companies -- 70,000 British

:29:20.:29:22.

companies, but with the new flexibilities in place we will do

:29:23.:29:25.

what other countries do and retrict the maximum amount of profits that

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can be off set using past losses to 50%. This will only apply to the

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less than 1% of firms making profits over ?5 million and the existing

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rules for historic losses in the banking sector will be tightened to

:29:41.:29:44.

25%. We will maintain our plans to align tax payment dates for the

:29:45.:29:48.

largest companies more closely when profits are earned, but we will give

:29:49.:29:52.

firms longer to adjust the changes which will come into effect in April

:29:53.:29:53.

2019. year. All of these reforms to

:29:54.:30:00.

corporation tax will reflect better the reality of the global economy.

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And together, they will raise ?9 billion in extra revenue for the

:30:05.:30:09.

Exchequer. That's our policy is not to raise taxes on business. Our

:30:10.:30:12.

policy is to lower taxes on business. So everything we collect

:30:13.:30:18.

from the largest firms who are trying to pay no tax will be used to

:30:19.:30:22.

help millions of firms who pay their fair share of tax. I can confirm

:30:23.:30:27.

today we are going to reduce the rate of corporation tax even

:30:28.:30:32.

further. That's the rate of Britain's profit-making companies,

:30:33.:30:35.

large and small, have to pay and all the evidence shows is one of the

:30:36.:30:39.

most distorted and unproductive taxes mirrors. Corporation tax was

:30:40.:30:44.

20% at the start of a last Parliament and we reduced it so it

:30:45.:30:48.

is 20% at the start of this one. Last summer I cut it to 18% in the

:30:49.:30:52.

coming years and today I'm going further. By April 2020, 17%. Britain

:30:53.:30:58.

is blazing a trail and let the rest of the world catch up. Cut in

:30:59.:31:05.

corporation tax is only part of our plan for the future. I also want to

:31:06.:31:10.

address the great unfairness that many small businessmen and women

:31:11.:31:13.

feel when they compete against companies on the Internet. EBay and

:31:14.:31:20.

Amazon have provided an incredible platform for many new small British

:31:21.:31:23.

start-ups to reach large numbers of customers but there's been a big

:31:24.:31:27.

rise in overseas suppliers storing goods in Britain and selling them

:31:28.:31:33.

online without paying VAT. It unfairly undercut British businesses

:31:34.:31:36.

on the Internet and on the high Street and today I can announce we

:31:37.:31:40.

are taking action to stop it. That's the first thing we will do to help

:31:41.:31:46.

small firms. Second, we will help the micro-entrepreneurs who sells

:31:47.:31:50.

services online, rent out their homes through the Internet, taxes

:31:51.:31:55.

should help these people so I'm helping to introduce two new

:31:56.:31:59.

tax-free allowances worth ?1000 a year and for trading and property

:32:00.:32:04.

income, no forms to fill in, no tax to pay, but tax break for the

:32:05.:32:08.

digital age and at least half a million people will benefit. On top

:32:09.:32:11.

of these measures comes the biggest tax cut for business in this Budget.

:32:12.:32:16.

Business rates are the fixed costs that way down on many small

:32:17.:32:21.

enterprises and at present small business rate relief is only

:32:22.:32:24.

permanent available to firms at a value of less than ?6,000 and in the

:32:25.:32:29.

past I'd been able to double it for one year only but today I'm more

:32:30.:32:33.

than doubling its and more than doubling its permanently. The new

:32:34.:32:39.

threshold for small business rate relief will raise from ?6,000 to a

:32:40.:32:45.

maximum threshold of ?15,000 and I'm also going to raise the threshold

:32:46.:32:50.

for the high rates from ?18,000 to ?51,000. Let me explain what this

:32:51.:32:56.

means. From April next year, 600,000 small businesses will pay no

:32:57.:33:03.

business rates at all. That's an annual saving for them of up to

:33:04.:33:08.

nearly ?6,000 for ever. A further quarter of a million businesses will

:33:09.:33:13.

see their rates cut. In total, half of all British properties will see

:33:14.:33:16.

their business rates fall or be abolished altogether. And to support

:33:17.:33:22.

all ratepayers, including larger stores who face tough competition,

:33:23.:33:27.

and employs lemony people, we will simplify the administration business

:33:28.:33:32.

rates and from 2020, switch the rating from the higher RPI to a

:33:33.:33:38.

lower CPI, a permanent long-term savings for all businesses in

:33:39.:33:42.

Britain, a typical corner shop in Barnstable will pay no business

:33:43.:33:45.

rates, a typical hairdresser in Leeds will pay no business rates, a

:33:46.:33:49.

typical newsagent in Nuneaton will pay no business rates. This is a

:33:50.:33:57.

Budget which gets rid of loopholes for multinationals, and gets rid of

:33:58.:34:02.

tax for small businesses, a ?7 billion tax cut for the nation of

:34:03.:34:06.

shopkeepers, which says to the world we are open for business, this is a

:34:07.:34:11.

Conservative Government which is on your side. Mr Deputy Speaker just

:34:12.:34:25.

over a year ago I reformed residential stamp duty. We moved

:34:26.:34:31.

from a distorted slab system to a much simpler slice system and 98% of

:34:32.:34:37.

home-buyers are now paying the same or less and revenues from the

:34:38.:34:40.

expensive properties of rhythm. The IMF welcomed the changes and

:34:41.:34:43.

suggests we do the same to commercial property so that's what

:34:44.:34:48.

we're going to do and that helps our small firms. At the moment the small

:34:49.:34:53.

firm can pay just ?1 more for a property and face a tax bill three

:34:54.:34:59.

times as large. That makes no sense. From now on, commercial stamp duty

:35:00.:35:04.

will have a zero rate band on purchases up to ?150,000, a 2% rate

:35:05.:35:11.

on the next ?100,000 and 5% top rate above ?250,000 and there will also

:35:12.:35:15.

be a 2% rate for those high-value leases with a net present value

:35:16.:35:19.

above minimum pounds. This new regime comes into effect from

:35:20.:35:28.

midnight tonight. -- ?5 million. These reforms raise ?500 million a

:35:29.:35:34.

year. While 9% will pay more, over 90% will see their tax bills cut or

:35:35.:35:38.

stay the same. For example, if you buy a pub in the Midlands worth

:35:39.:35:45.

?270,000, you would today pay ?8,000 stamp duty. From tomorrow, you will

:35:46.:35:50.

pay just ?3000 stamp duty. It's a big tax cut for small firms, all in

:35:51.:35:58.

a Budget which backs small business. Businesses also want a simpler tax

:35:59.:36:04.

system. I've asked Angela at the office for tax and have occasion to

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look at what we can do to make the system work better for small firms

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and I'm funding a dramatic improvement in the service HMRC

:36:12.:36:15.

offers them. Many retailers have complained bitterly to me about the

:36:16.:36:19.

complexity of the Carbon reduction commitment. It's not a commitment

:36:20.:36:24.

but tax, so I can tell the House were not going to reform it but I

:36:25.:36:27.

decided to abolish it altogether. And to make good the lost revenue,

:36:28.:36:32.

the Climate Change Levy will rise from 2019, the most energy intensive

:36:33.:36:36.

industries like steel remain completely protected and I'm

:36:37.:36:38.

extending the climate change agreement would help many others.

:36:39.:36:43.

The energy secretary and I are announcing ?730 million a further

:36:44.:36:47.

auctions to back renewable technology and inviting bids to

:36:48.:36:51.

develop the next generation of small multi-reactors. We also going to

:36:52.:36:55.

help one of the most valued industries in the UK, which has been

:36:56.:37:00.

severely affected by global events. The oil and gas sector employs

:37:01.:37:03.

hundreds of thousands of people in Scotland and around our country. In

:37:04.:37:08.

my Budget year ago I made major reductions to their taxes but the

:37:09.:37:11.

oil price has continued to fall so we need to act now for long-term. I

:37:12.:37:16.

am today cutting in half the supplementary charge on oil and gas

:37:17.:37:23.

from 20% down to 10% and I'm effectively abolishing petroleum

:37:24.:37:24.

revenue tax, too. Backing these are Scottish jobs.

:37:25.:37:45.

Order. Mr Ellis. Just relax. More to come. The Chancellor of the

:37:46.:37:52.

Exchequer. Both of these major tax cuts will be backdated so they are

:37:53.:37:56.

effective from the 1st of January this year. We'll give the industry

:37:57.:38:04.

our full support. We are only able to provide this kind of support to

:38:05.:38:07.

our oil and gas industry because of the broad shoulders of the... None

:38:08.:38:23.

of this support would have been remotely affordable if, in just

:38:24.:38:26.

eight days' time, Scotland had broken away from the rest of the UK

:38:27.:38:32.

as the Nationalists wanted. Their own audit of Scotland's public

:38:33.:38:35.

finances confirms they would have struggled from the start is with a

:38:36.:38:39.

fiscal crisis under the burden of the highest Budget deficit in the

:38:40.:38:44.

Western world. Thankfully the Scottish people decided we are

:38:45.:38:46.

better together in one United Kingdom.

:38:47.:38:55.

Mr Deputy Speaker, believing in the UK is not the same in believing

:38:56.:39:03.

every decision should be taken in Westminster and Whitehall, that's

:39:04.:39:06.

the next step in this Budget plan to make Britain fit for the future. As

:39:07.:39:11.

Conservatives, we know if you want local communities to take

:39:12.:39:13.

responsibility for local growth, I have to be able to reap the rewards.

:39:14.:39:17.

This Government is delivering the most radical devolution of power in

:39:18.:39:22.

modern British history. We are devolving power to our nations, the

:39:23.:39:26.

Scottish Secretary and I have agreed the new fiscal framework with a

:39:27.:39:31.

Scottish Government and also opening negotiations on a city deal with

:39:32.:39:36.

Edinburgh, we back the new V Museum in Dundee, and in response to

:39:37.:39:42.

the powerful case made to me by Ruth Davidson, we are providing new

:39:43.:39:45.

community facilities for people and the Royal navy personnel in fast

:39:46.:39:54.

lane paid for by us. In Wales, we are committed to devolving new

:39:55.:39:58.

powers to the Assembly and yesterday the Welsh Secretary and the chief

:39:59.:40:01.

secretary signed a new billion pound deal for the Cardiff region, opening

:40:02.:40:07.

discussion on a city deal for Swansea and growth deal for North

:40:08.:40:09.

Wales Summit Bannock connected the Northern Powerhouse, I've listened

:40:10.:40:13.

to the case made by the Welsh Conservative colleagues and I can

:40:14.:40:17.

announce today that from 2019, we will half the price of the Severn

:40:18.:40:24.

Crossing. My right honourable friend, the Northern Ireland

:40:25.:40:27.

Secretary and I are working towards a devolution of corporation tax. I'm

:40:28.:40:32.

also extending enhanced capital allowances to the enterprise zone in

:40:33.:40:36.

Coleraine and we will use over ?4 million from libel funds to help

:40:37.:40:40.

establish the first air Ambulance Service in Northern Ireland. In this

:40:41.:40:46.

Budget we make major further advances in the devolution power

:40:47.:40:50.

within England, too. It is less than two years ago I called for the

:40:51.:40:54.

creation of strongly elected Mayors to build a Northern Powerhouse and

:40:55.:40:59.

since then, they have been agreed for Manchester, Liverpool, Tees

:41:00.:41:02.

Valley, Newcastle and Sheffield. Over half the population of the

:41:03.:41:06.

Northern Powerhouse will be able to elect a Mayor accountable to them

:41:07.:41:09.

next year and will have an elected Mayor for the West Midlands, too.

:41:10.:41:13.

These new arrangements involve and grow stronger and I can tell the

:41:14.:41:17.

House that my right honourable friend the Justice Secretary and I

:41:18.:41:22.

are transferring new powers over the criminal justice systems to Greater

:41:23.:41:26.

Manchester, the kind of progressive social policy that this Government

:41:27.:41:30.

is proud to pioneer. I can also announce to the House today that for

:41:31.:41:34.

the first time, we have reached agreement to establish new elected

:41:35.:41:37.

Mayors inning as counties in southern cities, too, and I want to

:41:38.:41:42.

thank the Communities Secretary and my Treasury colleague Jim O'Neill

:41:43.:41:47.

for their human efforts and we've agreed a powerful East Anglia

:41:48.:41:50.

combined authority heading up by an elected Mayor and ?1 billion of new

:41:51.:41:55.

investment and a new West of England may all authority and they will also

:41:56.:42:00.

see almost ?1 billion invested locally and the authorities of

:42:01.:42:03.

greater Lincolnshire will have new powers, new funding and a new Mayor.

:42:04.:42:08.

North, south, east, west, the Devolution Revolution is taking

:42:09.:42:14.

hold. When I became Chancellor, 80% of local Government funding came in

:42:15.:42:20.

largely ring fenced grants from Government, the illusion of local

:42:21.:42:25.

democracy but by the end of this Parliament, 100% of local Government

:42:26.:42:28.

resources will come from local Government, raised locally, spent

:42:29.:42:33.

locally, invested locally, at the great capital city wants to lead the

:42:34.:42:40.

way. The Mayor of London passionately argued for the

:42:41.:42:44.

devolution of business rates and I can confirm today that the Greater

:42:45.:42:47.

London authority will move towards full attention of its business rates

:42:48.:42:53.

from next April, three years earlier. Michael Heseltine has

:42:54.:42:57.

accepted our invitation to lead a Thames Estuary growth commission and

:42:58.:43:00.

will report to me with his ideas next year. In every international

:43:01.:43:07.

survey of our country, our failure for a generation to build new

:43:08.:43:10.

housing and transport has been identified as a major problem. In

:43:11.:43:13.

this Government, we are the builders and so today, we are setting out...

:43:14.:43:24.

We will speed up our planning system, zone housing developers and

:43:25.:43:26.

prepare the country for the arrival of five G technology. The Business

:43:27.:43:32.

Secretary will bring forward our innovation proposals and, because we

:43:33.:43:36.

make savings in day-to-day spending, we can accelerate capital investment

:43:37.:43:41.

and increase it as a share of GDP. All these things are country focused

:43:42.:43:45.

on its long-term future should be doing. Alan new stamp duty rates on

:43:46.:43:50.

additional properties will come into effect next month. I have listened

:43:51.:43:54.

to colleagues and the rates will apply to larger investors, too. We

:43:55.:44:00.

will use receipts to support community Housing trusts including

:44:01.:44:03.

?20 million to help young families onto the housing ladder in the

:44:04.:44:10.

south-west England, a brilliant idea and it is proof that when the

:44:11.:44:16.

south-west vote with their voice, it's a head loudly in Westminster.

:44:17.:44:25.

But it is heard loudly. And because under this Government we are not

:44:26.:44:28.

prepared to let people be left behind, I'm also announcing a major

:44:29.:44:32.

new package of support worth over 150 will in pounds, to support those

:44:33.:44:36.

who are homeless and produce rough sleeping. -- ?150 million. I

:44:37.:44:42.

established a new national in first article is on to advise us all on

:44:43.:44:47.

the big long-term decisions we need to boost our productivity and I'm

:44:48.:44:50.

sure everyone in the House will want to thank Andrew Adonis and his

:44:51.:44:54.

fellow commissioners for getting off to such a strong start. They've

:44:55.:44:59.

already produced three impressive reports and recommend much stronger

:45:00.:45:04.

links across northern England so we are giving the green light to High

:45:05.:45:08.

Speed three between Manchester and Leeds, providing new money to create

:45:09.:45:13.

a 4-lane lane M 62 and we will develop the case for a new tunnel

:45:14.:45:14.

road from Manchester Sheffield. High honourable friends have told us

:45:15.:45:28.

not to ne glate their areas. I said we would build the Northern

:45:29.:45:36.

powerhouse, we put in the roads and we are making the Northern

:45:37.:45:40.

powerhouse a reality and rebuilding our country. I'm also accepting the

:45:41.:45:44.

infrastructure commission's recommendations on energy and on

:45:45.:45:48.

London Transport. The Government that is delivering Crossrail one

:45:49.:45:53.

will now commission Crossrail 2. I know this commitment to Crossrail 2

:45:54.:45:56.

will be warmly welcomed by the Leader of the Opposition, the Right

:45:57.:46:00.

Honourable member for Islington. It could have been designed just for

:46:01.:46:03.

him because it is good for all those who live in North London and are

:46:04.:46:09.

heading south! Mr Deputy Speaker, across Britain,

:46:10.:46:14.

this Budget invests in infrastructure, from a more

:46:15.:46:17.

resilient train line in the south-west, to the crossings at

:46:18.:46:20.

Ipswich and Lowestoft in the east that we promised, we are making our

:46:21.:46:26.

country stronger. To respond to the increasing extreme weather events

:46:27.:46:30.

our country is facing, I am today proposing further substantial

:46:31.:46:36.

increases in flood defences. Now that would not be affordable within

:46:37.:46:41.

existing budgets. So I'm going to increase the standard rate of

:46:42.:46:48.

insurance premium tax by just 5.5% and commitment extra money we raise

:46:49.:46:52.

to flood defence spending of the that's a ?700 million boost to our

:46:53.:46:57.

resilience and flood defences. The urgent review already underway by

:46:58.:47:01.

the Environment Secretary and the Chancellor of the duchy will

:47:02.:47:04.

determine how the money is best spent, but we can get started now. I

:47:05.:47:08.

have had many representations from colleagues across the House so we

:47:09.:47:15.

are giving the go-ahead to the schemes for York, Leeds, Calder

:47:16.:47:18.

valley and Carlisle and across Cumbria. In this Budget we invest in

:47:19.:47:23.

our physical infrastructure and we invest in our cultural

:47:24.:47:27.

infrastructure too. And I'm supporting specific projects from

:47:28.:47:31.

Cornwall in Truro to ?13 million for Hull to make a success of City of

:47:32.:47:40.

Culture. I'm extending the cathedral repairs fund. There is one thing

:47:41.:47:44.

that's clear, the Conservative Party is a broad church.

:47:45.:47:53.

And in 400th anniversary of the great playwright's death, I heard

:47:54.:48:00.

the sonnet and we commit to a new Shakespeare north site there on the

:48:01.:48:07.

site of the first indoor theatre outside our capital. It is Mr Deputy

:48:08.:48:22.

Speaker, we cut taxes for business and we dissolve power, the next plan

:48:23.:48:25.

is to improve the quality of our children's education. Now, providing

:48:26.:48:30.

great schooling is the single most important thing we can do to help

:48:31.:48:33.

any child from the disadvantaged background succeed. It is also the

:48:34.:48:37.

single most important thing we can do to boost the long-term

:48:38.:48:41.

productivity of our economy. Because our nation's productivity is no

:48:42.:48:44.

more, no less than the combined talents and efforts of the people of

:48:45.:48:49.

these islands. And that is why educational reform has been central

:48:50.:48:52.

to our mission since we came to office five years ago. Today, we

:48:53.:48:56.

take these further steps. First, I can announce that we're going to

:48:57.:49:02.

complete the task of setting schools free from local education

:49:03.:49:05.

bureaucracy and we are going to do it in this pamplt. I am providing --

:49:06.:49:10.

Parliament. I am providing extra funding so by 2020 every primary and

:49:11.:49:15.

secondary school will be in the process of becoming an academy.

:49:16.:49:19.

Second, we're going to focus on the performance of schools in the north,

:49:20.:49:23.

where results have not been as strong as we'd like, London's school

:49:24.:49:26.

system has been turned around, we can do the same in the Northern

:49:27.:49:32.

powerhouse. And I've asked the outstanding Bradford head teacher

:49:33.:49:35.

Sir Nick Weller to provide us with a plan. Third, we are going to look at

:49:36.:49:40.

teaching maths to 18 for all pupils. And fourth, we're going to introduce

:49:41.:49:51.

a fair national funding formula. I am today committing ?0.5 billion

:49:52.:49:57.

to speed up its introduction. We will consult and our objective is to

:49:58.:50:01.

get over 90% of the schools that will benefit on to the new formula

:50:02.:50:06.

by the end of this Parliament. The Conservative Government delivering

:50:07.:50:10.

on its promise of fair funding funding for our schools. Tomorrow,

:50:11.:50:14.

the Education Secretary will publish a white paper setting out further

:50:15.:50:19.

improvements we'll make to the quality of education because we will

:50:20.:50:27.

put the next generation first. Mr Deputy Speaker, doing the right

:50:28.:50:31.

thing for the next generation is what this Government and this Budget

:50:32.:50:35.

is about. No matter how difficult and how controversial it is. Mr

:50:36.:50:40.

Deputy Speaker you cannot have a long-term plan for the country

:50:41.:50:44.

unless you have a long-term plan for our children's healthcare. And here

:50:45.:50:50.

are the facts that we know. Five-year-old children are consuming

:50:51.:50:53.

their body weight in sugar every year. Experts predict that within a

:50:54.:50:59.

generation, over half of all boys and 70% of girls could be overweight

:51:00.:51:04.

or obese. Here is another fact, that we all know, obesity drives disease.

:51:05.:51:09.

It increases the risk of cancer, diabetes and heart disease and it

:51:10.:51:13.

costs our economy ?27 billion a year. That's more than half the

:51:14.:51:18.

entire NHS pay bill and here is another truth, we all know, one of

:51:19.:51:23.

the biggest contributors to childhood obesity is sugary drinks.

:51:24.:51:28.

A can of cola has nine teaspoons of sugar in it. Some popular drinks

:51:29.:51:32.

have as many as 13. That can be more than double a child's recommended

:51:33.:51:36.

added sugar intake. Now, let me give credit where credit is due, many in

:51:37.:51:40.

the soft drinks industry recognise there is a problem and have started

:51:41.:51:46.

to reform late their products. Robinson's removed added sugar from

:51:47.:51:51.

many many of cordials and squashes, Brees and the Co-op have committed

:51:52.:51:56.

to reduce sugar across their ranges. So industry can act and with the

:51:57.:52:00.

right incentives I'm sure it will. Mr Deputy Speaker, I'm not prepared

:52:01.:52:04.

to look back at my time here in this Parliament doing this job and say to

:52:05.:52:08.

my children's generation, I'm sorry, we knew there was a problem with

:52:09.:52:12.

sugary drinks, we knew it caused disease, but we ducked the difficult

:52:13.:52:16.

decisions and we did nothing. So today, I can announce that we will

:52:17.:52:22.

introduce a shoe new gar levy on the soft drinks industry and let me

:52:23.:52:26.

explain how it will work. It will be levied on the companies, it will be

:52:27.:52:30.

introduced in two years time, to give companies plenty of space to

:52:31.:52:35.

change their product mix. It will be assessed on the volume of the sugar

:52:36.:52:39.

sweetened drinks they produce or import. There will be two bands, one

:52:40.:52:49.

for total sugar content above five grams above 100 millilitres, pure

:52:50.:52:52.

fruit juices and milk based drinks will be excluded and we will ensure

:52:53.:52:56.

the smallest producer are kept out of scope. We will, of course,

:52:57.:53:01.

consult on implementation, we are introducing the lef yr on the

:53:02.:53:03.

industry which means they can reduce the sugar content of their products

:53:04.:53:08.

as many already do, it means they can promote low sugar or no sugar

:53:09.:53:14.

brands as many already are. They can talk these steps to help with

:53:15.:53:17.

children's health. Of course, some may choose to pace the price on to

:53:18.:53:21.

consumers and that will be their decision and this would have an

:53:22.:53:25.

impact on consumption too. We are as Conservatives understand that tax

:53:26.:53:28.

affects behaviour. So let's tax the things we want to reduce, not the

:53:29.:53:33.

things we want to encourage. The OBR estimate that this levy will raise

:53:34.:53:39.

?520 million and this is tied directly to the second thing we're

:53:40.:53:43.

going to do today to help children's health and well-being. We are going

:53:44.:53:46.

to use the money from this new levy to double the amount of funding we

:53:47.:53:50.

dedicate to sport in every primary school. And for secondary schools,

:53:51.:53:55.

we're going to fund longer school days for those who want to offer

:53:56.:53:59.

their pupils a wider range of activities including extra sport. It

:54:00.:54:03.

will be voluntary for schools, come approximateliry for the pupils,

:54:04.:54:05.

there will be be enough resources for a quarter of secondary schools

:54:06.:54:08.

to take part, but that's just the start. The devolved administrations

:54:09.:54:14.

will receive equivalent funding through the Barnett Formula and I

:54:15.:54:16.

hope they spend it on the next generation too. I'm using the LIBOR

:54:17.:54:21.

funds to help with Children's Hospital services. Members across

:54:22.:54:25.

the House have asked for resources for children's care in Manchester,

:54:26.:54:29.

Sheffield, Birmingham and Southampton and we provide those

:54:30.:54:33.

funds today. Mr Deputy Speaker, a determination to improve the health

:54:34.:54:38.

of our children, a new levy on excessive sugar in soft drinks, the

:54:39.:54:42.

money used to double sport in our schools, a Britain fit for the

:54:43.:54:46.

future, a Government not afraid to put the next generation first.

:54:47.:54:53.

Mr Deputy Speaker, let me now turn to indirect taxes. Last autumn, I

:54:54.:54:58.

said that we would use all the VAT we collect from sanitary products to

:54:59.:55:01.

support women's charities and I want to thank the many members here on

:55:02.:55:06.

all sides in all parties for the impressive proposals they have put

:55:07.:55:10.

forward. Today we advocate ?12 million from the tampon tax to these

:55:11.:55:14.

charities across the UK from Breast Cancer Care to the white ribbon

:55:15.:55:19.

campaign and many other causes and we will make substantial donations

:55:20.:55:24.

to the Rosa fund so we reach many more grass-roots causes. I now turn

:55:25.:55:29.

to excise duties. When we took office we inherited plans that would

:55:30.:55:33.

have seen fuel duty rise above inflation every year and cost

:55:34.:55:39.

motorists 18 pence extra a litre. We wholeheartedly rejected the those

:55:40.:55:42.

plans and we took action to help working people. We froze fuel duty

:55:43.:55:46.

throughout the last Parliament, a tax cut worth nearly ?7 billion a

:55:47.:55:50.

year. In the last 12 months, petrol prices have plummeted. That is why

:55:51.:55:55.

we pencilled in an inflation rise. But I know the fuel costs still make

:55:56.:56:01.

up a significant part of household Budgets and weigh heavily on small

:56:02.:56:06.

firms. Families pay the cost when oil prices rocketed and they

:56:07.:56:10.

shouldn't be penalised when oil prices fall. Fuel duty will be

:56:11.:56:20.

frozen for the sixth year in a row. That's a saving of ?75 a year to the

:56:21.:56:25.

average driver, ?270 a year to the small business with a van, it is the

:56:26.:56:29.

tax boost that keeps Britain on the move.

:56:30.:56:34.

Mr Deputy Speaker, tobacco duty will continue to rise as set out in

:56:35.:56:39.

previous Budgets by 2% above inflation from 6pm tonight. Hand

:56:40.:56:44.

rolling tobacco will rise by an additional 3%. To continue our drive

:56:45.:56:49.

to improve public health, we reform our tobacco regime to introduce a

:56:50.:56:55.

floor on the price of cigarettes. Mr Deputy Speaker, I have always been

:56:56.:56:59.

clear that I want to support responsible drinkers in our nation's

:57:00.:57:04.

pubs. Five years ago, we inherited tax plans that would have ruined

:57:05.:57:09.

that industry. The action we took in the last Parliament on beer duty,

:57:10.:57:12.

saved hundreds of pubs and thousands of jobs. Today, I am freezing beer

:57:13.:57:23.

duty and cider duty too. Scotch whisky accounts for a fifth of all

:57:24.:57:27.

of the UK's food and drinks export. We back Scotland and back their

:57:28.:57:31.

vital industry too with a freeze on spirits duty. All other alcohol

:57:32.:57:35.

duties will rise by inflation as planned. Mr Deputy Speaker, there

:57:36.:57:40.

are some final measures we need to take to boost enterprise and back

:57:41.:57:43.

the next generation and help working people keep more of the money they

:57:44.:57:46.

earn. All of these have been themes of this Budget. Let me start with

:57:47.:57:51.

enterprise. Now we Conservatives know that when it comes to growing

:57:52.:57:54.

the economy, alongside good infrastructure and great education,

:57:55.:58:02.

we need to light the fires of enenterprise, to help the

:58:03.:58:05.

self-employed, I'm going to fulfil the manifesto commitment we made and

:58:06.:58:10.

from 2018, abolish class two national insurance contributions

:58:11.:58:13.

altogether. That's a simpler tax system, a tax cut of over ?130 for

:58:14.:58:17.

each of Britain's three million strong army of the self-employed.

:58:18.:58:23.

Next, we want to help people to invest in our business and help them

:58:24.:58:30.

create jobs. The best way to do do that is let them keep more of the

:58:31.:58:35.

rewards. Our capital gains is one of the highest in the developed world.

:58:36.:58:39.

The headline rate of Capital Gains Tax stands at 28%. Today, I'm

:58:40.:58:45.

cutting it to 20% and I'm cutting the Capital Gains Tax paid by basic

:58:46.:58:51.

rate taxpayers from 18% to 10%. The rates will come intotected in three

:58:52.:58:54.

weeks time. The old rates will be kept in place for gains on

:58:55.:58:58.

residential property and carried interest and I'm introduced a

:58:59.:59:03.

brand-new 10% rate on long-term external investment in listed

:59:04.:59:07.

companies up to a separate maximum ?10 million of lifetime gains. In

:59:08.:59:11.

this Budget, we are putting rocket boosters on the backs of enterprise

:59:12.:59:13.

and productive investment. In this Budget I also want to help

:59:14.:59:21.

the next generation builds up assets and safe. The fundamental problem is

:59:22.:59:25.

that far too many young people in their 20s and 30s have no pension

:59:26.:59:30.

and few savings. Ask them and they will tell you it's because they find

:59:31.:59:34.

pensions too complicated and inflexible, and most young people

:59:35.:59:39.

face an agonising choice of either saving to buy a home or for their

:59:40.:59:44.

retirement. We can help by providing people with more information about

:59:45.:59:48.

the multiple passions many have and more tax relief on financial advice.

:59:49.:59:54.

-- pensions. We can also help those on the lowest incomes. Our help to

:59:55.:00:00.

save Palm is announced on Monday. In the past year with consulted whether

:00:01.:00:04.

we should make changes to the pension tax system. It was clear

:00:05.:00:10.

there was no consensus. The former pensions Minister, Steve Webb, so I

:00:11.:00:14.

was trying to abolish the lump sum. Instead, we'll keep it and abolish

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the Liberal Democrat. LAUGHTER

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And tend to do is say it left take effect from midnight tonight. But I

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am tempted to say. My pension reforms have always been about

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giving people... LAUGHTER

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Order. Order. I know pension reforms have been about

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giving people more freedom and choice are faced with the truth, but

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young people are not saving enough I'm providing a different answer to

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the same problem. We know people like I says because they are simple.

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Everything you earn in your savings is tax-free when you withdraw it.

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From April next year I will increase the ice limit from just over ?15,000

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to ?20,000 a year for everyone. For those under 40, many of whom have

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not had such a good deal from the pension system, I'm introducing a

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completely new flexible way for the next generation to save called the

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lifetime ISA. Young people can put money on, get a Government bonus and

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either by their first home or save for their retirement. From April

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2017, anyone under the age of 40 will be able to open a lifetime ISA

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and save up to ?4000 each year and for every ?4 you save, the

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Government would give you ?1. Put in ?4000, and the Government will give

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you ?1000 every year until you 50. You don't have to choose between

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saving for first home or your retirement. With your new ISA, the

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Government gives you money to do both. For the basic taxpayer that's

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the equivalent of tax-free savings until pension and unlike a pension,

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you won't pay tax when you come to take the money out in retirement.

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For the self-employed, it's the kind of support they simply cannot get

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from the pension system today. Unlike a pension, you can access

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your money any time without the bonus and with a small charge and we

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will consult with the industry on whether, like the American 401(k),

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you can return the money to the account to reclaim the bonus so it's

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both generous and completely flexible. Those already taken out

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are enormously popular. Mr Deputy Speaker, a ?20,000 ISA limit for

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everyone, and you lifetime ISA, a Budget which puts the

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next-generation first. Mr Deputy Speaker, I turn to my final

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measures. This Government was elected to back working people. The

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best way to help them is to let them keep more of the money they earn.

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When I became Chancellor the tax-free personal allowance was less

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than ?6,500. In two weeks, it will be ?11,000. We committed it would

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reach ?12,500 by the end of this Parliament and today we take a major

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step towards that goal. From April next year, I am raising the tax free

:03:52.:03:56.

personal allowance to ?11,500 as a tax cut for 31 million people

:03:57.:04:02.

meaning a typical basic rate taxpayer will pay over ?1000 less

:04:03.:04:06.

income tax than when we came into Government five years again and it

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means another 1.3 million of the lowest paid taken out of tax

:04:12.:04:16.

altogether, social justice delivered by Conservative means. Mr Deputy

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Speaker, we made another commitment in our manifesto and that was to

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increase the threshold which people paid a higher rate of tax. That I

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shall stand at from April next year, I'm going to increase the high rate

:04:38.:04:43.

threshold to ?45,000. That's a tax cut of over ?400 a year, lifting

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over half a million people who should never been paying the higher

:04:48.:04:51.

rate out of that higher rates banned altogether. And it's the biggest

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above inflation cash increase since Nigel Lawson introduced the 40p rate

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over 30 years ago. Mr Deputy Speaker, a personal tax-free

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allowance of ?11,500, no one paying the 40p rate under ?45,000, we were

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elected the Government are working people and we have delivered a

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Budget for working people. Mr Deputy Speaker, five years ago we set out a

:05:20.:05:23.

long-term plan because we wanted to make sure Britain never regain was

:05:24.:05:27.

powerless in the face of global storms. We said then that we would

:05:28.:05:31.

do the hard work to take control of our destiny and put our own House in

:05:32.:05:37.

order. Five years later, the economy is stronger, the storm clouds are

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gathering again, our response to these new challenges are clear, we

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act now so we don't pay later. This is our Conservative Budget, one

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which reaches a surplus so the next generation doesn't that do pay our

:05:50.:05:53.

debts, one which reforms the tax system so the next generation

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inherits a strong economy, one which takes the imaginative steps as are

:05:58.:06:01.

the next generation is better educated, one which takes bold

:06:02.:06:07.

decisions so our children grow up fit and healthy, but this is a

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Budget which gets the investors investing, savers saving, businesses

:06:11.:06:13.

doing business so we built for working people a low tax,

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enterprising Britain, secure at home, strong in the world, I commend

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it to the how's a Budget which puts the next-generation first.

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STUDIO: George Osborne completing a Budget pack of all kinds of

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measures. Some rather ambitious targets, some people already saying

:06:34.:06:36.

rather unrealistic targets but certainly lots of action in lots of

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areas. The Deputy Speaker will call the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn to

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respond. Let me quickly go through some of the main points and we will

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be back in the Commons straightaway. Main measures. A new sugar Levy

:06:51.:06:55.

announced on soft drinks to be introduced in 2018. The fuel duty

:06:56.:07:01.

has been frozen again. That got great cheers in the House of

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Commons. A tax-free personal allowance to rise to ?11,500, a

:07:05.:07:11.

higher rate threshold to ?45,000 in April 17, more main measures to

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come. Lots of interest in this new lifetime ISA, savings vehicle for

:07:18.:07:20.

the under 40s, Government boosting the savings by 25%. The ISA limit

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increasing to ?20,000 a year from next April. And the OBR forecasts, a

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sharp revision of some of the growth forecasts of the UK economy and

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certainly there were lots of rather glum faces around those figures.

:07:38.:07:41.

They have been revised downwards. What does that mean for this

:07:42.:07:47.

Government? Corporation tax, 17% by April 2020, so there's lots of tax

:07:48.:07:51.

adjustments as we go through. We will look at those in more detail,

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clearly, in a few minutes. I'm keeping my eyes on the House of

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Commons because we don't want to miss Jeremy Corbyn. Why do we go

:07:59.:08:02.

back to the chamber and see what's going on there because I think the

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Deputy Speaker is actually going through some of the financial

:08:07.:08:11.

measures. The House is still packed, of course and lots of interest in

:08:12.:08:15.

what kind of response Jeremy Corbyn will fashion. A few formal things to

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put through because of course, as you know, the Chancellor introduced

:08:22.:08:26.

some of these changes to take place within a few hours. Overnight. So

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therefore, the Speaker has got to put through some of these changes

:08:30.:08:33.

pretty quickly in terms of the business of the House and this is

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the moment of course when Mr Corbyn himself will be furiously preparing

:08:38.:08:43.

his notes. Let's join him. Thank you very much, Mr Deputy Speaker. The

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Budget the Chancellor has just delivered is actually the

:08:51.:08:53.

culmination of six years of his failures. It is a Budget... This is

:08:54.:09:07.

not some kind of Fairground attraction. We expect courtesy from

:09:08.:09:13.

both sides. I want to hear him and I know that the public that this

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country wants to hear what the opposition has got to say as well.

:09:16.:09:22.

Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Deputy Speaker, it's a recovery built on sand,

:09:23.:09:28.

failed on the Budget deficit, on debt, on investment, on

:09:29.:09:33.

productivity, on trade deficit, welfare cap, failed to tackle

:09:34.:09:39.

inequality in this country. And today, Mr Deputy Speaker, is

:09:40.:09:45.

announced growth is revised down last year, this year, every year

:09:46.:09:49.

forecast, business investment revised down, Government revised

:09:50.:09:55.

down, it is very good thing that the Chancellor is blaming the last

:09:56.:10:00.

Government. He was the Chancellor in the last Government. This Budget, Mr

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Deputy Speaker, has unfairness at its very core. Paid for by those who

:10:08.:10:13.

can't least afford it. He could not have made his priorities clearer.

:10:14.:10:19.

While half a million people with disabilities are losing over ?1

:10:20.:10:25.

billion in permanent personal independence payments, corporation

:10:26.:10:28.

tax has been cut and billions handed it in tax cuts to the very wealthy.

:10:29.:10:36.

The Chancellor has said to be judged on his record and by the tests he

:10:37.:10:44.

has set himself. Six years ago, he promised a balanced structural

:10:45.:10:50.

current Budget by 2015. It is now 2016, there is still no balanced

:10:51.:10:55.

Budget. In 2010, he and the Prime Minister claimed we are all in it

:10:56.:11:00.

together. The Chancellor promised his House that the richest would pay

:11:01.:11:06.

more than the poorest, not just in terms of cash, but as a proportion

:11:07.:11:13.

of income as well. Let me tell him how is that turned out. The

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Institute for Fiscal Studies, independent organisation, found

:11:19.:11:22.

that, and I quote, "The poorest have suffered the greatest proportionate

:11:23.:11:28.

losses". The Prime Minister told us recently he was delivering a strong

:11:29.:11:33.

economy and a sound plan. But strong for who? Strong to support who? When

:11:34.:11:40.

80% of the public spending cuts have fallen on women in society. This

:11:41.:11:47.

Budget could have been a chance to demonstrate a real commitment to

:11:48.:11:51.

fairness and equality. Yet again, the Chancellor has failed. Five

:11:52.:11:57.

years ago, and it was great words, he promised a Britain carried aloft

:11:58.:12:01.

by the march of the makers, soaring rhetoric. Mr Deputy Speaker, despite

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the resilience, ingenuity and hard work of manufacturers, the

:12:08.:12:13.

manufacturing sector was no smaller than it was eight years ago. Last

:12:14.:12:20.

year, he told the Conservative conference, we are the builders.

:12:21.:12:24.

But, ever since then, the construction industry has been

:12:25.:12:29.

stagnating. This is the record of a Conservative Chancellor who has

:12:30.:12:32.

failed to balance the books, failed to balance out the pain, failed to

:12:33.:12:36.

rebalance the economy. It is no wonder that his close friend, the

:12:37.:12:43.

Honourable member for Chingford and Wood Green, is complaining. We were

:12:44.:12:51.

told for the next seven years things were looking great. Within one month

:12:52.:12:55.

that forecast, we are now being things are different. The gulf

:12:56.:13:01.

between what the Conservative Government expects from the

:13:02.:13:04.

wealthiest and wanted the man's from ordinary British taxpayers could not

:13:05.:13:10.

be greater. The Mates rates deals for big corporations on tax deals is

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remembered for. This is a Chancellor remembered for. This is a Chancellor

:13:17.:13:24.

who has produced a Budget for hedge fund managers more than for small

:13:25.:13:29.

businesses. This, Mr Deputy Speaker, is a Government... I don't know what

:13:30.:13:37.

it is about you always want to catch my attention. Can I assure you, you

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got my attention lest not get the game. Leader of the Opposition.

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Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. This is a Government that stood by as the

:13:48.:13:55.

steel industry bled. Skills, output and thousands of very skilled jobs

:13:56.:13:59.

have been lost and communities ruined and damaged by the inaction

:14:00.:14:03.

of the Government. The Chancellor set himself a 1 trillion export

:14:04.:14:10.

target. It's going to be missed by a lot more than a country mile.

:14:11.:14:14.

Instead of trade fuelling growth as he promised, it is now holding back

:14:15.:14:18.

growth. He talked of the Northern Powerhouse. And we now discover that

:14:19.:14:30.

97% of the senior staff of the Northern Powerhouse have indeed been

:14:31.:14:37.

outsourced to London. To the south. And, for all his talk, of the

:14:38.:14:44.

Northern Powerhouse, the north-east accounts for less than 1% of

:14:45.:14:51.

Government infrastructure pipeline project in construction. For all his

:14:52.:14:57.

rhetoric, there has been a systematic underinvestment in the

:14:58.:14:57.

North. Mr Deputy Speaker across the country

:14:58.:15:08.

local authorities, councils, are facing massive problems. A 79% cut

:15:09.:15:17.

in their funding. Every library that's been closed, every elderly

:15:18.:15:21.

person left without proper care, every swimming pool with reduced

:15:22.:15:24.

opening hours or closed altogether, is a direct result of Government

:15:25.:15:29.

under funding our local authorities and councils.

:15:30.:15:36.

Far from providing over good quality employment, he is the Chancellor

:15:37.:15:42.

that's presided over under employment and insecurity.

:15:43.:15:50.

With nearly, with nearly... THE DEPUTY SPEAKER: There is some

:15:51.:15:54.

people that's testing my patience. So just think what your constituents

:15:55.:15:59.

are thinking out there as well. I want to hear the Leader of the

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Opposition. I expect you to hear the Leader of the Opposition. If you

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don't want to, I am sure the tearoom awaits. Thank you, Mr Deputy

:16:09.:16:13.

Speaker. Security comes from knowing where your income is and knowing

:16:14.:16:17.

where your job is. If you're one of those nearly, if you're one of those

:16:18.:16:22.

nearly one million people on a zero-hours contract, you don't know

:16:23.:16:26.

what you're income is, you don't have that security. We have the

:16:27.:16:32.

highest levels, Mr Deputy Speaker, of in work poverty on record. The

:16:33.:16:37.

largest number without security. They need regular wages, that can

:16:38.:16:42.

end poverty and can bring about real security in their lives. Logically,

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Mr Deputy Speaker, low paid jobs don't bring in the tax revenues that

:16:49.:16:52.

the Chancellor tells us he needs to balance his books. Household

:16:53.:16:57.

borrowing is once again been relied upon to drive growth. Risky,

:16:58.:17:02.

unsecured lending, is growing at its fastest rate for the last eight

:17:03.:17:07.

years and it is clearly not sustainable. The renewables industry

:17:08.:17:13.

is vital to the future of our economy, our planet, indeed, our

:17:14.:17:18.

whole existence. It has been targeted for cuts of the thousands

:17:19.:17:21.

of jobs lost in the solar panel production industry and the Prime

:17:22.:17:26.

Minister as we discussed earlier at Prime Minister's Questions, promised

:17:27.:17:31.

the greenest Government ever. Here again, ababject failure, science

:17:32.:17:35.

spending also down ?1 billion compared to 2010. Home ownership

:17:36.:17:42.

down under this Conservative Government, a whole generation

:17:43.:17:46.

locked out of any prospect of owning their own home and this is the

:17:47.:17:53.

chancellor, who believes that a starter home costing ?450,000 is

:17:54.:17:58.

affordable! It might be for some of his friends,

:17:59.:18:04.

it might be for some members opposite, it isn't for those people

:18:05.:18:08.

who are trying to save for a deposit because they can't get any other

:18:09.:18:13.

kind of house. We heard promises, Mr Deputy Speaker, before. Two years

:18:14.:18:20.

ago, the Chancellor pledged a garden city of 15,000 homes in Ebbsfleet

:18:21.:18:24.

and many cheered that. His ministers have been very busy ever since then.

:18:25.:18:30.

They've made 30 Ebbsfleet announcements and they have managed

:18:31.:18:36.

to build 368 homes in Ebbsfleet. It is 12 homes for every press release.

:18:37.:18:44.

We need obviously a vast increase in press releases in order to get any

:18:45.:18:48.

homes built in Ebbsfleet or indeed, anywhere else.

:18:49.:18:55.

And whilst we welcome the money that's going to be put forward to

:18:56.:19:02.

tackle homelessness, it is the product of under investment, under

:19:03.:19:06.

funding of local authorities, not building enough council housing, not

:19:07.:19:10.

regulating the private rented sector that has led to this crisis. We need

:19:11.:19:17.

to tackle the issue of homelessness by saying that everybody in our

:19:18.:19:21.

society deserves a safe roof over their head. Mr Deputy Speaker, child

:19:22.:19:31.

poverty is forecast to rise every year in this Parliament. What a

:19:32.:19:35.

damning indictment of this Government. And what a contrast to

:19:36.:19:40.

the last Labour Government that managed to lift almost one million

:19:41.:19:48.

children out of poverty. .81% of the tax increases and benefit cuts are

:19:49.:19:55.

falling on women and the 19% gender pay gap persists despite the protest

:19:56.:20:01.

tations of the chancellor, it is a serious indictment that women are

:20:02.:20:05.

generally paid less than men for doing broadly similar work. It will

:20:06.:20:10.

require a Labour Government to address this. And the Government's

:20:11.:20:18.

own social mobility commissioner said and I quote, "There is a

:20:19.:20:24.

growing sense that Britain's best days are behind us rather than ahead

:20:25.:20:28.

of us as the next generation expects to be worse off than the last." The

:20:29.:20:36.

Chancellor might have said a great deal about young people. He failed

:20:37.:20:40.

to say anything about the debt levels that so many former students

:20:41.:20:44.

have. The high rents that young people have to pay. The lower levels

:20:45.:20:49.

of wages that young people get. The sense of injustice and insecurity

:20:50.:20:54.

that so many young people in this country face and feel every day. It

:20:55.:20:59.

will again require a Labour Government to harness the

:21:00.:21:02.

enthusiasms and talent and energy of the young people of this country. Mr

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Deputy Speaker, investing in public services is vital to people's

:21:11.:21:13.

well-being. I think we're all agreed on that, at least I hope we are. Yet

:21:14.:21:20.

every time the Chancellor fails, he cuts services, cuts jobs, sells

:21:21.:21:26.

assets, further privatises. That was very clear when we were looking at

:21:27.:21:30.

the effects of the floods last year. Flood defences were cut by 27%.

:21:31.:21:37.

People's homes in Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cumbria, ruined because

:21:38.:21:43.

of his Government's neglect of river basin management, and the flood

:21:44.:21:48.

defences that are so necessary. Obviously we welcome any money that

:21:49.:21:53.

is now going into flood defences. But, but Mr Deputy Speaker, I hope

:21:54.:22:01.

that money will also be accompanied by reversing the cuts in the Fire

:22:02.:22:05.

Service which makes it so difficult for our brilliant firefighters to

:22:06.:22:10.

protect people in their homes. Reverse the cuts in the Environment

:22:11.:22:15.

Agency which makes it so hard for those brilliant engineers to protect

:22:16.:22:20.

our towns and cities and for Local Government workers who perform so

:22:21.:22:23.

brilliantly during the crisis of December and January in the areas

:22:24.:22:29.

that were flooded. Our education service, Mr Deputy Speaker, invests

:22:30.:22:34.

in people. It is a vital, motor for the wealth of this country in the

:22:35.:22:40.

future. So I ask why have we seen a 35% drop in the adult skills budget

:22:41.:22:46.

by this Government? People surely need the opportunity to learn. Not

:22:47.:22:52.

have to go into debt in order to develop skills from which we as a

:22:53.:22:59.

community entirely benefit. The Chancellor announced yesterday and

:23:00.:23:02.

there is not one shred of evidence to suggest that turning schools into

:23:03.:23:06.

academies boosts performance. There is nothing in the Budget that deals

:23:07.:23:12.

with the real issue which is teacher shortage, school place crisis or

:23:13.:23:21.

ballooning class sizes. He spoke at some length on the issue of

:23:22.:23:26.

ill-health amongst young children and the way in which sugar is

:23:27.:23:30.

consumed at such grotesque levels within our society and I agree with

:23:31.:23:34.

him about that. I welcome what he said. I'm sure he will join with me

:23:35.:23:38.

in welcoming the work done by many members of this House including my

:23:39.:23:42.

friend the member for Leicester East and his work and Jamie Oliver in his

:23:43.:23:48.

work in helping to deal with the dreadful situation of children's

:23:49.:23:53.

health. If we as a society cannot protect our children from high

:23:54.:23:56.

levels of sugar and all that goes with it, with the later crisis of

:23:57.:24:01.

health cancer and diabetes then as a House, we have failed the nation.

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The support his proposals on sugar as I hope all members of this House

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will. But there is an issue that faces the National Health Service.

:24:10.:24:16.

The deficit has widened to its highest level ever on record.

:24:17.:24:20.

Waiting times are up. The NHS is in a critical condition. Hospital after

:24:21.:24:25.

hospital, faces serious financial problems and is working out what to

:24:26.:24:31.

sell in order to balance its books. Our NHS should have those resources

:24:32.:24:34.

to concentrate on health needs of the people, not having to get rid of

:24:35.:24:40.

resources in order to survive. The Public Accounts Committee reported

:24:41.:24:45.

only yesterday that National Health Service finances have deteriorated

:24:46.:24:50.

at a severe and rapid pace. I didn't detect much in this Budget that is

:24:51.:24:54.

going to do much to resolve that crisis. He has also cut public

:24:55.:25:00.

health budgets, mental health budgets, and adult social care.

:25:01.:25:06.

Earlier this month, the Government forced through a ?30 per week cut to

:25:07.:25:13.

disabled ESA claimants... THE DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order. Order.

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The frontbench conversationings, if he need that conversation, there is

:25:21.:25:24.

plenty of room in the tearoom for you. Thank you very much, Mr Deputy

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Speaker. Last week we learned that 500,000 people will lose up to ?150

:25:31.:25:36.

per week due to cuts in personal independence payments. I simply ask

:25:37.:25:45.

the Chancellor this - if he can finance the giveaways that he put in

:25:46.:25:50.

his Budget to different sectors, why can't he fund the need for dignity

:25:51.:25:54.

for the disabled people of this country?

:25:55.:26:00.

Mr Deputy Speaker, the Chancellor said in the Autumn Statement that he

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had protected police budgets. Sir Andrew Dilnot confirms there has

:26:08.:26:12.

been a decrease in the police grant and 18,000 police officers have lost

:26:13.:26:17.

their jobs, fewer police on the streets, and as my friend the member

:26:18.:26:21.

for Brent South pointed out in her question to the Prime Minister, to

:26:22.:26:27.

cut down on dangerous crime, against vulnerable individuals, we need

:26:28.:26:31.

community policing and we need community police officers. 18,000

:26:32.:26:35.

losing their jobs doesn't help. This is a Government with failure on the

:26:36.:26:39.

police, failure on the National Health Service, failure on social

:26:40.:26:44.

care, housing and education. Public investment lays the foundations for

:26:45.:26:48.

future growth. The owe owe recognises that. The IMF, the G20.

:26:49.:26:55.

The Crib and the TUC are crying out for more infrastructure investment.

:26:56.:27:00.

It is Labour who will invest in the future in a high technology, high

:27:01.:27:06.

skill, high wage economy. The investment commitments the

:27:07.:27:08.

Chancellor made today, yes, of course, they are welcome, but

:27:09.:27:12.

they're belated and they are nowhere near the scale this country needs.

:27:13.:27:16.

People rightly fear this is just another press release on the road to

:27:17.:27:23.

non delivery of crucial projects. Chronic under investment presided

:27:24.:27:26.

over by this chancellor, both private and public, means that the

:27:27.:27:30.

productivity gap between Britain and the rest of the G7 is the widest it

:27:31.:27:38.

has been for a generation. Without productivity growth, revised down

:27:39.:27:42.

further today, we cannot hope to improve living standards. Our party,

:27:43.:27:48.

the Labour Party, backs a strategic state that understands businesses,

:27:49.:27:53.

public services, innovators and workers combined together to create

:27:54.:27:59.

wealth and drive sustainable growth. The Chancellor adopted a counter

:28:00.:28:03.

productive fiscal rule. The Treasury Select Committee's response to that,

:28:04.:28:07.

it was and I quote, "Not convinced that the surplus rule is credible."

:28:08.:28:14.

They're right. Mr Deputy Speaker, the Chancellor is locking Britain

:28:15.:28:18.

into an even deeper cycle of low investment, low productivity, and

:28:19.:28:22.

low ambition. We will be making the case for Britain to remain as a

:28:23.:28:27.

positive case within the European Union and all the solidarity that

:28:28.:28:33.

can bring. But Mr Deputy Speaker, over the past six years, the

:28:34.:28:38.

Chancellor has set targets on deficit, on debt, on productivity,

:28:39.:28:43.

on manufacturing, and construction, on exports. He has failed in all of

:28:44.:28:48.

them and is failing this country. There are huge opportunities for

:28:49.:28:52.

this country to build on the talent and efforts of everyone. But the

:28:53.:28:59.

Chancellor is more concerned about protecting vested interests. The

:29:00.:29:02.

price of failure is being borne by some of the most vulnerable within

:29:03.:29:07.

our society. The disabled being ropd robbed of ed to ?150 a week, these

:29:08.:29:13.

aren't the actions of a responsible states person or they are the

:29:14.:29:17.

actions of a cruel and callous Government that sides with the wrong

:29:18.:29:20.

people and punishes the most vulnerable and poorest within our

:29:21.:29:26.

society. He was defeated when he tried to cut, make tax credit cuts

:29:27.:29:32.

next month by this House opposing it and by Labour members and

:29:33.:29:37.

cross-benchers in the Lords, but Mr Deputy Speaker, the continuation of

:29:38.:29:41.

austerity, that he has confirmed today, particularly in the area of

:29:42.:29:45.

Local Government spending is a political choice, not an economic

:29:46.:29:51.

necessity. It locks us into a continued cycle of economic failure

:29:52.:29:52.

and personal misery. This party will not stand by while

:29:53.:30:01.

more poverty and inequality blight of this country. We will oppose

:30:02.:30:06.

these damaging choices. I make the case for an economy in which

:30:07.:30:12.

prosperity is shared by all. Let us harness the optimism, the

:30:13.:30:15.

enthusiasm, the hope, the energy of young people Tom not burden them

:30:16.:30:24.

with debts and unaffordable housing, low-wage jobs and zero hours

:30:25.:30:30.

contracts but instead, act in an intergenerational way to give young

:30:31.:30:33.

people the opportunities and the chances they want to build a better,

:30:34.:30:42.

freer, more recall, more content Britain than there Chancellor of the

:30:43.:30:47.

Exchequer has proved he is at a incapable of doing with his Budget

:30:48.:30:51.

today. STUDIO: So the Labour leader Jeremy

:30:52.:30:57.

Corbyn delivering his first response in the last 25 minutes or so to the

:30:58.:31:02.

Budget. Quite a lot of people emptying now from the chamber. It's

:31:03.:31:05.

a good time for us also to come out of the chamber. Let me remind you

:31:06.:31:09.

the debate will continue in the House of Commons, a long debate,

:31:10.:31:15.

lots of people wanting to take part, uninterrupted coverage on BBC

:31:16.:31:19.

Parliament. And now going to have a chance to take you through the

:31:20.:31:25.

Budget measures. I did use in headlines early on but now I'm going

:31:26.:31:29.

to take you through quite a few of the other measures we fail to

:31:30.:31:33.

mention Iliana. Let's start with a main measures, the tax changes, and

:31:34.:31:36.

the big headline, the new sugar levy on soft drinks and industry itself

:31:37.:31:44.

to be introduced in 2018. Lots of interest in that understandably.

:31:45.:31:48.

Lots of reaction to that. The tax-free personal allowance to rise

:31:49.:31:54.

to ?11,500 in 2017. The higher rate tax threshold to rise to ?45,000 and

:31:55.:32:06.

corporation tax, 17% by April 20 20. Some big tax changes. Let's look of

:32:07.:32:10.

pensions and savings because there were some very eye-catching

:32:11.:32:13.

initiatives. A lifetime ISA for the under 40s, lots of emphasis on the

:32:14.:32:18.

younger generation, the Government boosting the savings by 25%. The

:32:19.:32:26.

annual allowance right now by the way would be increased to ?20,000

:32:27.:32:33.

next April and there will be no change to tax relief on pension

:32:34.:32:36.

contributions. A lot of debate about that before this Budget. No changes

:32:37.:32:43.

to pension contributions. Duties, then. Fuel duty will be extended for

:32:44.:32:47.

another year which brought a very big round of applause. Beer and

:32:48.:32:56.

cider will be frozen again. And the duty on whiskey, spirits, also

:32:57.:33:04.

frozen. Glancing across the House to the Scottish National Party at that

:33:05.:33:08.

point, the Chancellor, and other alcohol duties including wine,

:33:09.:33:14.

rising by inflation. Let's look at some other tax changes. We went

:33:15.:33:21.

through quite a few details. National insurance contributions to

:33:22.:33:24.

be scrapped for self-employed workers. Helping small businesses,

:33:25.:33:31.

self-employed. Capital gains tax cut from 28-20%. 10% for basic rate

:33:32.:33:37.

taxpayers. Big changes in capital gains tax. There will be an increase

:33:38.:33:41.

in Insurance Premium Tax, going up by 0.5%. Now, on the forecast

:33:42.:33:48.

Roumat, a lot of interest in these simply because a few eyebrows were

:33:49.:33:55.

raised. The Office for Budget Responsibility advising the UK

:33:56.:33:59.

growth downwards, sharply down with some would say, public spending to

:34:00.:34:07.

be cut by 3.5 by 20 19-20, more spending cuts on the way. The

:34:08.:34:13.

inflation forecast by the OBR to be 0.7% this year, 1.6% next year, but

:34:14.:34:20.

again, underlining the basic target of 2% is still there. Borrowing.

:34:21.:34:28.

72.2 billion this year, falling to 55.5 point 5,000,000,020 16-17, but

:34:29.:34:32.

we need to talk about the targets are there in terms of borrowing and

:34:33.:34:36.

the deficit itself because I think that is one of the more

:34:37.:34:41.

controversial areas. Transport. Still going through today's Budget.

:34:42.:34:46.

The green light for the HSV railing, Manchester and Leeds, we talk about

:34:47.:34:50.

that in the past, but the go-ahead has been given. They will commission

:34:51.:34:55.

the Crossrail two, a big infrastructure project linking North

:34:56.:34:59.

and South London. Crossrail one, the Elizabeth line, opening relatively

:35:00.:35:07.

soon east to west London. From 2018, gosh, how many times have I driven

:35:08.:35:12.

down the M4 wondering when the tolls would be changed? The Severn Bridge,

:35:13.:35:17.

halved. Not gone altogether. Business. A new threshold for small

:35:18.:35:24.

business rate relief to rise from 6000-15,000. Business rates,

:35:25.:35:33.

switched from RPI down to the lower measure of inflation, CPI. Affecting

:35:34.:35:37.

levels of business rates there and commercial stamp duty rate reduced

:35:38.:35:43.

for lower value properties. Quite a few changes around business rates

:35:44.:35:45.

which we can discuss with Simon shortly. Let's look at a few other

:35:46.:35:53.

measures for you. Every school in England as we reported yesterday to

:35:54.:36:00.

become an academy. By 2020. No choice involved in that. The academy

:36:01.:36:05.

status they say will give more freedom to schools. New national

:36:06.:36:08.

funding for Miller for schools in England allied to that measure new

:36:09.:36:13.

powers, this is very big, significant, over criminal justice

:36:14.:36:16.

to be devolved to Greater Manchester. Big measures in terms of

:36:17.:36:22.

devolving to English regions. East and West England. Greater

:36:23.:36:28.

Manchester. The Greater London authority to retain its business

:36:29.:36:32.

rates from April 20 17. A significant financial measure. We

:36:33.:36:40.

have a few more to go. The supplementary tax on oil and gas,

:36:41.:36:46.

halved to 10%, very, very important news in Scotland, the heart of the

:36:47.:36:51.

oil and gas industry in the UK. A big piece of news for us to consider

:36:52.:36:57.

in the Scottish context. ?700 million additional funding for flood

:36:58.:37:00.

defences. Of course, lots of people debating that and wondering if it's

:37:01.:37:08.

welcome, but it would've been welcome two years ago. The new

:37:09.:37:11.

Shakespeare North Theatre, part a cultural rebuilding the Chancellor

:37:12.:37:16.

was talking about, not just infrastructure, in roads and bridges

:37:17.:37:20.

but culturally, Shakespeare North to be built in Knowsley. We've picked

:37:21.:37:26.

those out for you but I was a long list. We didn't get all of it on

:37:27.:37:31.

there. Lots for us to discuss. Apart from Simon and Laura, and Kamal

:37:32.:37:38.

Ahmed, we have had the red book, by the way, and we have permission to

:37:39.:37:43.

look through these figures, we're also joined by Rupert Harrison, used

:37:44.:37:50.

to be chief of staff to George Osborne and now works for Blackrock,

:37:51.:37:55.

the world's largest asset management company. Two perspectives from that

:37:56.:38:01.

part of the world but also from your great experience working closely

:38:02.:38:06.

with George Osborne. Welcome, I need to turn to Laura first and say,

:38:07.:38:10.

right, let's try and get through this. A deep breath. Before we had

:38:11.:38:17.

the Budget, there were one or two commentators saying there's not

:38:18.:38:20.

going to be much in this. It's going to be a bit boring. It wasn't. It

:38:21.:38:26.

certainly wasn't and George Osborne likes upending peoples expectations

:38:27.:38:30.

and I think the big thing that we saw is George Osborne again trying

:38:31.:38:36.

to have it both ways. He has built his reputation on his efforts to

:38:37.:38:40.

rebuild the economy, the Budget numbers tell us that job is far from

:38:41.:38:45.

over, chunky downgrades to growth, the country will be less well off

:38:46.:38:48.

than we thought the George Osborne said that won't stop him from one

:38:49.:38:52.

moment driving forward some big changes and political changes.

:38:53.:38:57.

Politics on every single page of this red book. Britain can hold its

:38:58.:39:01.

nerve despite the economic chadors around the world, you can apparently

:39:02.:39:04.

miraculously one year be nearly ?40 billion in the red and next year be

:39:05.:39:12.

10 billion quid in the black. Two hitters political surplus target and

:39:13.:39:17.

have big ideas. That tax on sugary drinks, the Government has been

:39:18.:39:20.

hesitating about it for months, Lo and behold, the Chancellor gets to

:39:21.:39:24.

announce it, interesting in itself. One minister said that was not a

:39:25.:39:29.

Budget for the next generation but for the man who wants to be the next

:39:30.:39:33.

Prime Minister and, at the same time, but having it both ways at the

:39:34.:39:36.

end of the Parliament, cutting spending, as well as cutting tax for

:39:37.:39:43.

millions of people. Speeding up the rate at which the income tax

:39:44.:39:49.

threshold will be raised. You can also use the Budget, something which

:39:50.:39:53.

were driven some Eurosceptic Tory backbenchers mad to send a political

:39:54.:40:00.

message using the independent Office for Budget Responsibility to talk

:40:01.:40:05.

about the risk of leaving the EU. Almost his first page. Could you

:40:06.:40:11.

address first of all this magic work on the figures. This business that

:40:12.:40:17.

Laura referred to. I have to say on social media, there's lots of talk

:40:18.:40:21.

about this. I'm going give a polite version. It says, he can't do it

:40:22.:40:26.

because this doesn't make sense. Do you say? He's basically said he's

:40:27.:40:32.

going to take a huge bridging loan to get the Government from today and

:40:33.:40:38.

the poor economic data we saw today, borrowing will increase over the

:40:39.:40:42.

next few years, and has bet on everything in 2020 firstly, it's the

:40:43.:40:49.

moment public spending cuts, he's not identified where they will be,

:40:50.:40:54.

he said how much he will save as usual, he's banked the money without

:40:55.:40:59.

saying where it comes from, ?3.5 billion, and also in 2020, the

:41:00.:41:03.

corporation tax changes, good for small businesses but big tax rises

:41:04.:41:09.

for big businesses, also kicking in. He says he wants to leave and

:41:10.:41:13.

businesses time to prepare the wealth they are preparing, those

:41:14.:41:16.

taxes will build up, a big payment will come in 2020, and he believes

:41:17.:41:21.

the OBR are saying, although they will borrow more, those two things

:41:22.:41:25.

happening in that final year will lead to this huge boost to the

:41:26.:41:30.

public finances and leave this surplus which he actually claims

:41:31.:41:35.

will be higher in 2020 than was forecast in what we thought with a

:41:36.:41:39.

more optimistic times of November. One other point to make is he

:41:40.:41:42.

believes the Government will also save a lot of money on debt interest

:41:43.:41:46.

payments because we are still in this very low interest rate world,

:41:47.:41:50.

the notion of interest rate rising has been pushed further into the

:41:51.:41:54.

future, another game for the Government. These basically

:41:55.:41:57.

collected all this money together and we'll stick it all on 2019-20,

:41:58.:42:03.

all coming back in, and giving him this huge boost into what will be a

:42:04.:42:07.

general election. It's not without risk, less put that way. Simon,

:42:08.:42:13.

what's put out for you in business? We talk tax and rates, but what for

:42:14.:42:20.

you was significant? He's raising ?9 billion from big business and

:42:21.:42:23.

spending ?7 billion on small business are taking from the big and

:42:24.:42:26.

giving to the small business and some of them have already welcome

:42:27.:42:30.

this. How will you do that? He will stop corporations having high debts,

:42:31.:42:35.

using their debt interest to bring their profits down, restrict that to

:42:36.:42:41.

30% of profits, also often when companies make big losses they can

:42:42.:42:45.

use the loss and bring it forward to shelter future profits into the

:42:46.:42:50.

future. 25% for banks doing that, 50% for other companies and also

:42:51.:43:00.

introducing a Starbucks tax, so when you send profits overseas,

:43:01.:43:02.

intellectual property, he will stop that happening, and also VAT

:43:03.:43:08.

clamp-down, he's going to use that money to spend on business rate

:43:09.:43:14.

cuts. This is the thing everyone is their biggest bugbear, business

:43:15.:43:17.

rates go up faster than people and the prices of goods and services can

:43:18.:43:23.

create and he said he's going to raise the small business tax relief

:43:24.:43:26.

and make it permanent slots a big boost to small business. Clearly an

:43:27.:43:30.

implication the Government will come onto that. Rupert, you are welcome.

:43:31.:43:35.

Give us your big thought on this Budget. What is this Budget doing in

:43:36.:43:41.

broad terms? You always have to look at the hand he's dealt and how he

:43:42.:43:45.

plays it. The big economic story is big downgrades to borrowing and

:43:46.:43:49.

importantly I think we should come back to this downgrades of

:43:50.:43:53.

productivity growth by the Office for Budget Responsibility in terms

:43:54.:43:55.

of the long-term implications for the country. But then, how has he

:43:56.:44:00.

responded to that? Essentially, is dumb money needed to do to keep the

:44:01.:44:05.

strategy on track, his most important tax is... Is that

:44:06.:44:12.

credible? There's genuine spending cuts in that spending year. The

:44:13.:44:18.

Treasury always has a number of ways up its sleeve for shifting money

:44:19.:44:23.

between years, which essentially is what this big corporation tax is

:44:24.:44:26.

doing, something he did in the Autumn Statement to bring money

:44:27.:44:29.

forward is now essentially being undone to push the money back. A bit

:44:30.:44:34.

of smoke and mirrors? The Treasury always have ways of doing these

:44:35.:44:37.

things. Big spending cuts is the meat of how he's achieving that.

:44:38.:44:42.

Interestingly, from the presentation of the Budget, he has come up with

:44:43.:44:46.

enough surprises that should probably I think push those economic

:44:47.:44:53.

boring stories of the front pages tomorrow, sugary drinks tax, and his

:44:54.:44:58.

come up with some big tax cuts which will be welcomed by people on his

:44:59.:45:02.

own side, personal tax cuts like the high rate threshold and personal

:45:03.:45:06.

allowance, capital gains tax, lifetime ISA, things his

:45:07.:45:10.

Conservative MPs will be you back to their constituencies and be happy

:45:11.:45:11.

about. Is it your view that when they were

:45:12.:45:19.

looking at this Budget and the likely impact of it, certainly in

:45:20.:45:22.

news terms, because let's be honest, that's part of the calculation, it

:45:23.:45:28.

is not all about economic management, that sugar initiative if

:45:29.:45:32.

I can put it like that, is it the assumption within the Treasury that

:45:33.:45:35.

would dominate people's talk following this Budget and that might

:45:36.:45:41.

be rather helpful? We probably all assume that in terms, of you know,

:45:42.:45:47.

the front pages. It is an interesting one there has been a lot

:45:48.:45:50.

of debate in the Government. Some of it noisy and public about whether to

:45:51.:45:55.

go ahead and do this. Is this is a measure that got support in the

:45:56.:46:00.

public health community. A lot of high-profile campaigners. A lot of

:46:01.:46:03.

people thinking the Government wasn't going to do, whether it was

:46:04.:46:06.

long planned or a late decision, we don't know. I did want to ask about

:46:07.:46:12.

the prominent passage on the referendum and looking ahead to

:46:13.:46:15.

that. Again, the thinking there, to make that such a very hard-line

:46:16.:46:19.

statement that he made despite the fact there will be plenty of people

:46:20.:46:24.

sitting behind him and on the frontbench with him, not happy about

:46:25.:46:28.

it? It would have been odd if he hadn't mentioned it. It is the most

:46:29.:46:31.

important thing facing the Government this year. I actually

:46:32.:46:34.

think it was interesting that he put it right at the front of the

:46:35.:46:37.

statement. He said what he to say and then left it and then where he

:46:38.:46:41.

ended which all the most important part of his speech. He ended on

:46:42.:46:46.

announcements that are going to hope, he is going to hope will make

:46:47.:46:50.

his own side particularly happy, particularly the tax cuts. We have

:46:51.:46:54.

just noticed that George Osborne as stechd in ?8 billion of spending

:46:55.:47:01.

cuts in the first year of the next Parliament, but I just think worth

:47:02.:47:06.

noting Rupert being candid, but maybe unusually unhelpful to his

:47:07.:47:10.

former boss by admitting how much the calculation is about what is

:47:11.:47:13.

going to create a splash the next day. They knew they were going to

:47:14.:47:17.

have grim economic news, but the sugar tax announcement is something

:47:18.:47:20.

the Government has been thinking about for ages to get away from the

:47:21.:47:25.

economic numbers and again, candid, about how the Treasury can move the

:47:26.:47:28.

numbers around to make things suit them. George Osborne was desperate

:47:29.:47:33.

to keep to the surplus target of ?10 billion, Rupert said the Treasury

:47:34.:47:36.

were able to do it by moving the numbers around. Businesses will be

:47:37.:47:41.

paying the money later than they thought. Indeed. It is a deferral of

:47:42.:47:47.

something he previously announced. He has missed that second of his

:47:48.:47:52.

fiscal rules which is debt declining as a proportion of national income.

:47:53.:47:58.

That's probably been on the cards since he announced he was not to go

:47:59.:48:09.

ahead with the sale of Lloydsful What been going on in the Treasury

:48:10.:48:18.

now? What is the process? Budget Day is normally characterised by my

:48:19.:48:22.

successors will be briefing the journalists about the details of the

:48:23.:48:26.

Budget. That can go on for a long time and the real issue, he will be

:48:27.:48:30.

looking for what other questions that are coming out from people like

:48:31.:48:34.

Laura and Kamal and Simon, what are the questions he is going to get

:48:35.:48:41.

tomorrow on the TV sofas and in the radio studios. A lot of his measures

:48:42.:48:49.

are clampling down on tax avoidance. How credible do you think that is?

:48:50.:48:52.

The Office for Budget Responsibility looked at previous announcements on

:48:53.:48:55.

cracking down on tax avoidance and while it is true some measures have

:48:56.:49:00.

not raised what was hoped, other measures ended up raising more than

:49:01.:49:03.

was hoped. They say on balance these things end up raising what was

:49:04.:49:07.

expected on average, even if the precise costings of individual

:49:08.:49:11.

measures sometimes are a bit off. The clock is against us, Rupert. It

:49:12.:49:15.

has been great to have you with us and thank you for agreeing to come

:49:16.:49:18.

in. Good to see you. We will let Rupert go and we will be joined by

:49:19.:49:24.

Matt Hancock in a second. We want more reaction from Jo, my colleague

:49:25.:49:28.

who is in Bolton with some guests there. Let's join Jo now.

:49:29.:49:34.

Yes, Huw, welcome back to the Market Place in Bolton. The Chancellor in

:49:35.:49:38.

his statement said that it was a boost for the Northern powerhouse.

:49:39.:49:41.

Well, let's speak to someone who should know and that's Tony Lloyd,

:49:42.:49:45.

the Labour Mayor of Greater Manchester. Welcome. Thank you.

:49:46.:49:49.

Those infrastructure projects that were announced and lauded by George

:49:50.:49:52.

Osborne, will they power the north? Each one is welcome, but it is not

:49:53.:49:56.

enough. You know, the people in the north will recognise that when we're

:49:57.:50:00.

spending something like five times as much on the rail infrastructure

:50:01.:50:05.

in London and the South East, it is about us getting our fair share.

:50:06.:50:10.

Let's see the super connectivity that London rightly expects for the

:50:11.:50:14.

northern cities and then we will believe in the Northern powerhouse

:50:15.:50:17.

and this Government's commitment. We are not there yet. You would like

:50:18.:50:21.

more on infrastructure. What about devolution and this announcement on

:50:22.:50:27.

business rate relief? It will be devolved to local authorities, but

:50:28.:50:30.

that might also mean they will get less money in the future. What's

:50:31.:50:34.

your take? It is a clever chancellor and as always, you have got to read

:50:35.:50:38.

the fine print. We have been given a commitment in the early days there

:50:39.:50:42.

will would be no loss in Greater Manchester, what we want to know

:50:43.:50:45.

there is no loss as we move into the long-term future. Some of the

:50:46.:50:48.

poorest people in the poorest communities live in the north of

:50:49.:50:51.

England and particularly in Greater Manchester. What we can't have is

:50:52.:50:55.

the Government taking away the money that keeps our public services

:50:56.:50:58.

going. They're vital for people's way of life. So let's see the small

:50:59.:51:02.

print. People are bound to be sceptical until we know what the

:51:03.:51:05.

real answer is. What is your response to the ?3.5

:51:06.:51:15.

billion of extra cuts to public spending in 2019/2020? We are

:51:16.:51:18.

suffering from austerity exhaustion. We have seen our public services

:51:19.:51:22.

take a hit, whether it is policing or social care in our local

:51:23.:51:26.

councils. There comes a point when the public really doesn't understand

:51:27.:51:30.

the economic value of when they can see the damage it does to our

:51:31.:51:32.

communities. The Chancellor is going to have to look very long and hard

:51:33.:51:36.

at to whether this is sustainable, not economically, but socially

:51:37.:51:39.

sustainable. At the moment he has got a lot to do to convince people

:51:40.:51:43.

of that. Tony Lloyd, thank you very much. The Chancellor had a lot to

:51:44.:51:47.

say about pensions and savings. So let's talk to our personal finance

:51:48.:51:53.

expert, Ruth Alexander. Outline the key changes that were announced by

:51:54.:51:59.

the Chancellor? A viewer tweeted to say would there be anything for

:52:00.:52:03.

young people in the Budget. The Chancellor announced the lifetime

:52:04.:52:07.

ISA, you could save ?4,000 every year until you're 50 and the

:52:08.:52:12.

Government will put in ?1 for every 4 you save. There is help for people

:52:13.:52:16.

who are lower paid. People who are in work, but on in work benefits.

:52:17.:52:22.

They have got the help to save scheme and that could be worth ?1200

:52:23.:52:26.

from the Government over four years, Eric e-mailed to say, "What about

:52:27.:52:30.

pensioners? Could they benefit from this?" Well pensioners couldn't, but

:52:31.:52:35.

everyone will benefit from the fact that the ISA limit will be raised to

:52:36.:52:42.

?20,000 from around ?15,000 now. And in other money news, the amount you

:52:43.:52:47.

can earn before your tax is going to be raised to ?11,500 and the higher

:52:48.:52:51.

rate tax threshold will be raised to ?45,000 from April. The Chancellor

:52:52.:52:55.

says it will take 500,000 people out of the 40 pence tax band and then

:52:56.:52:58.

something that will have got a lot of people's attention, the fact that

:52:59.:53:02.

fuel duty has been frozen. And that's not just good news for

:53:03.:53:06.

drivers, but good news for shoppers because the goods in the shops

:53:07.:53:09.

around us, most of them will have been delivered by road. Just a

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reminder, you can e-mail us. Thank you very much. Let's get reaction

:53:16.:53:20.

from a local small business. We can talk to Tim Entwistle who runs a

:53:21.:53:24.

small manufacturing company here in the region, Move Tech UK. Was it a

:53:25.:53:29.

good Budget for small businesses? I think over recent months we have had

:53:30.:53:32.

a lot of uncertainty with the Scottish referendum, the general

:53:33.:53:36.

election, and now we've got the European election. I think what we

:53:37.:53:41.

needed was some stability and I think this election looked at the

:53:42.:53:44.

long-term and hopefully, deliver some stability for us to run our

:53:45.:53:49.

businesses and make the economy better. Are you optimistic for the

:53:50.:53:53.

future? More optimistic than you have been over the last couple of

:53:54.:53:57.

years? Yes, I think so. I think the economy will pick up and I'm

:53:58.:54:03.

optimistic. We have concerns over the wider macroeconomy, but... And

:54:04.:54:07.

the backdrop obviously that the Chancellor was talking about. What

:54:08.:54:10.

about some of the measures that have already been announced by George

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Osborne? Have businesses like yours managed to implement those? We are

:54:14.:54:17.

just seeing now the implementation of some of the previous policies

:54:18.:54:23.

like the enrolment on the pensions and the national Living Wage and the

:54:24.:54:28.

apprenticeships and that's all coming in now. So we're very pleased

:54:29.:54:33.

there doesn't seem to be any more major regulation coming in to

:54:34.:54:37.

further our administrative burdens. You have got enough on your plate?

:54:38.:54:41.

Absolutely. Timment whittle, thank you very much. With that, back to

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you Huw. Jo, thank you very much. We will be back with you in a short

:54:46.:54:49.

while. So, Rupert Harrison left and we are delighted to be joined by the

:54:50.:54:54.

Cabinet Office minister, Matt Hancock. We are going to start with

:54:55.:54:58.

sugar if we can. I am I have been digging around and it says last

:54:59.:55:02.

October, David Cameron ruled out a sugar tax, saying specifically there

:55:03.:55:07.

were more effective ways of tackling obesity. What changed is the

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question? Well, we haven assessing the evidence. The evidence has been

:55:11.:55:15.

pretty strong, quite overwhelming. Some of the figures that were used

:55:16.:55:19.

in the speech, the fact that the number of people, the number of

:55:20.:55:24.

children expected to be obese or overweight, half of boys and almost

:55:25.:55:31.

70% of girls are expected to be obese or overweight and clearly,

:55:32.:55:34.

this is a growing problem and there has been a lot of evidence that has

:55:35.:55:38.

been brought to light in the last six months.

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It is odd, isn't it that, the Prime Minister said it, there are more

:55:43.:55:46.

effective ways of tackling obesity which leads us to conclude this is

:55:47.:55:50.

about raising money? It maybe about that as much as it is about health?

:55:51.:55:55.

It raises money that can be spent on school sportment. The package is

:55:56.:56:00.

being about being pro-health and tackling this big problem. It could

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be a way of tackling obesity. It is seen as maybe the Prime Minister

:56:06.:56:08.

didn't get that right? Well, you assess the evidence all the time as

:56:09.:56:13.

you are in Government and different medical experts brought different

:56:14.:56:16.

evidence to us. And that's one of the reasons for instance, it is

:56:17.:56:21.

levied on water-based soft drinks, but not on milk based ones because

:56:22.:56:26.

the nutritional advice is that milk-based drinks even if they have

:56:27.:56:30.

got sugar has benefit, but the big picture is this, you have got to

:56:31.:56:33.

face up to the big challenges that the country faces on the economic

:56:34.:56:37.

front as we heard in the economic statistics, but then also on the

:56:38.:56:41.

health side and you know, if you're going to introduce a new tax to

:56:42.:56:45.

tackle a growing problem, then Budget Day is the day to do it. Very

:56:46.:56:50.

conveniently you point up some of the figures for us. We discussed

:56:51.:56:54.

this earlier, but I will put the same question to you, how do you

:56:55.:56:59.

move from a deficit of ?20 million to a surplus of ?10 billion the

:57:00.:57:04.

following year? It is all set out in the red book. That's why we have the

:57:05.:57:07.

red book. We're going to make efficiency savings which I have some

:57:08.:57:10.

responsibility for delivering to make sure that we keep a grip on

:57:11.:57:15.

public spending. There is also changes to corporation tax and the

:57:16.:57:19.

timing of the payments of corporation tax. There is, there is

:57:20.:57:23.

changes to make sure we keep the welfare bills down. It is set out in

:57:24.:57:28.

detail about how we get that, again, the big picture is this - we get

:57:29.:57:34.

that ?10 billion surplus that we have set out and reaching a surplus

:57:35.:57:41.

means we can live within our means as a country. The world economy is

:57:42.:57:46.

tougher no doubt than it was a year or so ago or six months ago. We have

:57:47.:57:51.

a goal of making sure that Britain is prepared to deal with it. As we

:57:52.:57:55.

were discussing earlier, Laura and Kamal, there is a bit of jigry

:57:56.:57:59.

pokery that goes on with the figures. Is there something about

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the way that the figures are reached that bothers you? It is about when

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you account for tax receipts and they are going to account for their

:58:06.:58:10.

tax receipts by moving them into that 2019/2020 figure. George

:58:11.:58:13.

Osborne said if his Budget the reason for that was to allow

:58:14.:58:18.

corporations time to prepare. Now, possibly he meant time to prepare

:58:19.:58:23.

for my leadership of the Conservative Party. Clearly, the

:58:24.:58:28.

Treasury has as Rupert Harrison said, the Treasury has a number of

:58:29.:58:32.

ways of ensuring that money comes in, in ways that can be helpful to

:58:33.:58:36.

the Government balance sheet. And if you look post the next election and

:58:37.:58:41.

the OBR is signalling beyond that, further cuts are going to be made,

:58:42.:58:46.

supposedly, but also that this surplus will keep going up. I think

:58:47.:58:50.

the big issue Mr Hancock for you is this notion of convincing the public

:58:51.:58:54.

that you're going to borrow much, much more money in the next three

:58:55.:58:58.

years and then suddenly be able to pay that off, with these corporation

:58:59.:59:04.

tax receipts and with a judgement on what your debt interest payments

:59:05.:59:07.

will be and on the efficiency savings which you haven't yet

:59:08.:59:12.

identified. Quite heroic assumptions you are making some may suggest and

:59:13.:59:15.

will the public be convinced by that?

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We reach a separate even without a change in the corporation tax

:59:20.:59:25.

receipts. We can park that. The surplus will still be reached. After

:59:26.:59:29.

that, we've made an assumption that public spending will continue to

:59:30.:59:36.

grow. That's of course for the next parliament but those assumptions are

:59:37.:59:39.

set out in the above, so what you do when you're trying to get a country

:59:40.:59:45.

out of the economic mess we're in is set a clear goal and then you work

:59:46.:59:50.

your to reaching that, so, in each of the cases, we have got the plan

:59:51.:59:56.

to deal with it. We mentioned the efficiency savings, we have already

:59:57.:00:01.

and efficiency programme to improve the way that we procure things and

:00:02.:00:05.

buy things in Government, to improve the way we use property and make

:00:06.:00:09.

savings from that, and we will put more into that programme. When will

:00:10.:00:15.

we actually know where those cuts are going to fall? Presumably on

:00:16.:00:21.

non-protected apartments? This needs to be done by 2019-20, so the idea

:00:22.:00:28.

the Government can't save no .5% spending in four years is for the

:00:29.:00:32.

birds. Of course it can. The key is this. We will set out the report in

:00:33.:00:39.

2018, two years to find the savings and then another 18 months to

:00:40.:00:44.

implement them. Business is all the time make savings much greater than

:00:45.:00:50.

that in terms of efficiency. This is no .5%. You were referring to

:00:51.:00:56.

Government efficiencies around ?3.5 billion in the last year of the

:00:57.:00:59.

parliament. If we look at the changes between now and the Autumn

:01:00.:01:04.

Statement, public spending is going to be more than ?30 billion lower

:01:05.:01:07.

than it was set out in the Autumn Statement. That is ten times more

:01:08.:01:11.

than efficiencies you're talking about so essentially, just be clear

:01:12.:01:16.

about this, the Chancellor has taken a political decision to head his

:01:17.:01:22.

circus track it -- surplus target, way more ahead of getting the books

:01:23.:01:26.

back into balance, and in order to do that is taking out more than ?30

:01:27.:01:31.

billion of cuts on top of what was already spelt out in November.

:01:32.:01:35.

That's what these numbers suggest. No, that's not quite right. The

:01:36.:01:40.

additional savings we will find is 3.5 billion. The inflation has

:01:41.:01:48.

fallen since the Autumn Statement and that's had an impact on some of

:01:49.:01:54.

the figures. The overall savings in the Autumn Statement were set out

:01:55.:01:57.

and the plan for that at that time, so the point is this. We have a

:01:58.:02:01.

clear goal, to get Britain back into the black. Quite rightly, we've

:02:02.:02:06.

taken an active choice to meet that same goal and it requires action and

:02:07.:02:12.

it set out in the book. Isn't this obsession with surplus in 1920, if

:02:13.:02:21.

they hang up and economic literacy suggests taking ?4 billion out of

:02:22.:02:27.

the economy at a time of economic growth is slowing and going to all

:02:28.:02:30.

sorts of lengths to miraculously hit the surplus in 1920s rather odd?

:02:31.:02:38.

There are economic literature which are incredibly logical but aren't

:02:39.:02:43.

exactly in the real world. Frankly, for the last five years I've sat in

:02:44.:02:48.

studios like this and had the case put, wouldn't it be easier just to

:02:49.:02:53.

slack up here a bit and relax here? Ultimately, if you're going to

:02:54.:02:56.

balance the books you have two set a goal and stick with it and... This

:02:57.:03:04.

one looks increasingly arbitrary. It is our click relevant button on the

:03:05.:03:09.

manifesto we get Britain into surplus, remove the deficit so we

:03:10.:03:14.

can get debts falling. Yes, it's an active decision. It's not an

:03:15.:03:19.

accident but choice. When you have big names in the city, lots of Earth

:03:20.:03:26.

has been predicated on giving confidence to the financial market,

:03:27.:03:33.

and they are saying, deficit is now manageable, their words not mine, it

:03:34.:03:35.

doesn't make sense to take more money out of spending. If the

:03:36.:03:40.

economy is slowing down, actually, you're precisely doing the wrong

:03:41.:03:45.

thing. You need to be giving stimulus, not taking money out.

:03:46.:03:48.

People used to say that and they said that in the mid-to thousands.

:03:49.:03:54.

The result was, when the crash came, we were the worst prepared economy

:03:55.:03:58.

and we ended up having one of the biggest Budget deficit in the world.

:03:59.:04:02.

I came into politics to promote economic stability for my family, my

:04:03.:04:08.

business and nearly gone bust because of the whole economy going

:04:09.:04:14.

wrong, nothing to do with my fault. That economic stability is hard-won

:04:15.:04:19.

and you can easily let go of it by saying, why do we just spend more

:04:20.:04:23.

here and be a bit more relaxed there? Instead, it's our job to have

:04:24.:04:28.

a clear goal and stick to it. I'm really sorry, but we've got lots to

:04:29.:04:31.

get through. Good to see you, thanks for coming in. To all of our viewers

:04:32.:04:41.

in Scotland, thanks for being with us. You are leaving us at this

:04:42.:04:47.

point. Thank you for joining us. In the meantime, more response from

:04:48.:04:52.

Jane on College Green outside Parliament.

:04:53.:04:57.

Welcome back to a blustery College Green but a very busy and a lot of

:04:58.:05:03.

politicians of all, colours are here. Let's get their reaction.

:05:04.:05:11.

Susan Kramer for the Lib Dems. And Nigel Farage, leader of the UK

:05:12.:05:16.

Independence Party. Baroness Kramer, you will know I'm sure that one of

:05:17.:05:19.

the biggest laughs was raised when he said were going to keep the lump

:05:20.:05:23.

sum and abolish the Liberal Democrats. Are you feeling like a

:05:24.:05:27.

party redundant? We are feeling like a very important party because we

:05:28.:05:33.

are leading the way on confidence and managing the Budget. You look at

:05:34.:05:38.

this particular Budget and he's missed his target and, as a

:05:39.:05:42.

consequence, there's all kinds of hidden cuts in public spending. He

:05:43.:05:48.

said 3.5 billion, mystery cuts, looking at schools, hospitals,

:05:49.:05:54.

saying you need to put aside another 2 billion to go into pensions.

:05:55.:05:57.

That's going to come off the front line. And a welcome cut in taxes for

:05:58.:06:02.

business but it looks like it's coming out of local Government, so

:06:03.:06:06.

your street cleaning, care for elderly people. It's not an

:06:07.:06:11.

effective way to manage Government. You are a former Transport Minister.

:06:12.:06:14.

You must like the infrastructure announcements. I had to look at the

:06:15.:06:19.

announcements and kept thinking, didn't I announce those about a year

:06:20.:06:24.

ago? It's all repeat stuff. We need to get down to doing it, not just

:06:25.:06:29.

constantly announcing it. Nigel Farage, some elements to be

:06:30.:06:35.

welcomed? Susan Kramer may feel she announced, but this investment. The

:06:36.:06:37.

Northern Powerhouse, building up the regions. Inventing a Mayor for East

:06:38.:06:43.

Anglian that no one is asked for. I hope they put that to a referendum

:06:44.:06:47.

first. To me, we can talk that tax cuts and say this is good and not

:06:48.:06:53.

good, but the big picture is growth will be 2% this year. Its forecast

:06:54.:06:58.

to stay at 2% for the next five years. When you analyse about half

:06:59.:07:03.

of it is because of mass immigration and publishing growth, more people,

:07:04.:07:08.

a bigger economy, the rest of it is fuelled by a massive sea of

:07:09.:07:12.

borrowing, personal borrowing and Government borrowing, you realise

:07:13.:07:16.

Britain is not doing very well at all. He compared us to the Eurozone.

:07:17.:07:21.

They are doing dreadfully. This Chancellor is massively increasing

:07:22.:07:25.

the national debt and we don't have proper growth. He said he's going to

:07:26.:07:30.

have a surplus. He said that in 2010. Since you became Chancellor,

:07:31.:07:35.

he's doubled the size of our national debt. The issue you

:07:36.:07:41.

mentioned, its investment in infrastructure, absolutely critical

:07:42.:07:44.

to get that underpinning a genuine growth. When somebody announces

:07:45.:07:49.

there's going to be another study, I really want to shake my head with

:07:50.:07:53.

despair. We need acceleration to get the money on the ground and I'm very

:07:54.:07:59.

comfortable if we borrow to do that, the capital stuff, because it's zero

:08:00.:08:02.

interest rates right now, incredibly cheap, we can get that moving, broad

:08:03.:08:09.

housing, transport, jute potential to drive the economy. I get that.

:08:10.:08:15.

For the long-term. Ala annual Budget deficit is worse than Greece. That's

:08:16.:08:19.

an honest appraisal of where we are. We are now in the seventh year this

:08:20.:08:23.

Chancellor. A big flourish at the end will talk about personal tax

:08:24.:08:28.

allowance and raising that. For a long time that was a big Lib Dem

:08:29.:08:35.

policy. Has he stolen your policies? We are delighted when people follow

:08:36.:08:42.

us and that's exactly right. On the other hand, he's going in there and

:08:43.:08:45.

cutting capital gains tax. What's the deal with that? Taxing wealth is

:08:46.:08:50.

what it's better to do than taxing people's income. I think he's

:08:51.:08:56.

heading in the wrong direction but I'm glad he's lifted the fresh

:08:57.:09:07.

rolls. -- thresholds. I'd love to see an increase in minimum wages.

:09:08.:09:11.

I'd like to ask both of you about what tomorrow will be the rabbit in

:09:12.:09:17.

that hat, attacks on sugary drinks. A massive problem with childhood

:09:18.:09:24.

obesity the country. It totally well commit. Congratulations to Jamie

:09:25.:09:27.

Oliver and the other campaign is up and down the country who have been

:09:28.:09:31.

fighting for that. It's really important, but it's a small piece,

:09:32.:09:35.

frankly, in a Budget with a lot of flaws and problems. I'm completely

:09:36.:09:41.

against it. I don't like the nanny state. I believe in education. The

:09:42.:09:45.

idea it'll go into school sports, budgets don't work like. Money goes

:09:46.:09:50.

in one part and comes at the other side. If the deals with a big health

:09:51.:09:54.

problem, a big health problem, growing problem, like... We tax

:09:55.:09:58.

alcohol and tobacco. Now we are attacked sink sugar. -- tax sugar.

:09:59.:10:07.

People go into the black market. 80% of hand tobacco is now bought the

:10:08.:10:15.

market. It helped Mexico. People are buying fewer sugary drinks. But

:10:16.:10:21.

there are still buying black-market booze and tobacco and even by class

:10:22.:10:27.

a drugs in Westminster. It won't work. The schools Budget, Wally

:10:28.:10:30.

didn't say is the Government is still cutting the amount of people,

:10:31.:10:36.

so at least there's some little trickle coming back into school

:10:37.:10:40.

Budget. As a consequence of the sugar tax and that's a good thing.

:10:41.:10:44.

It doesn't deal with the underlying problem, we have to put more into

:10:45.:10:48.

schools to keep up with the number of children coming in to school

:10:49.:10:52.

places, teachers, high-quality teachers, and I would be in favour

:10:53.:10:56.

of making sure teachers and other key public sector workers actually

:10:57.:11:01.

got a pay rise after carrying posterity for so many years. We must

:11:02.:11:11.

leave it there. Thank you very much. Jamie Oliver has recently turned up

:11:12.:11:15.

among the throng at Westminster. He really is a man in demand. Much more

:11:16.:11:20.

from here over the afternoon. Back to you.

:11:21.:11:25.

Thank you. He made talk to you, who knows? Thank you to your guests. We

:11:26.:11:32.

are joined now by Paul Johnson, one of our regular and cherished guests

:11:33.:11:35.

on Budget day come the director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

:11:36.:11:39.

Lots of questions from viewers and Sullivan quite pointed. Overall, is

:11:40.:11:46.

this a tax cutting Budget? Neither if you look over 2019 come and take

:11:47.:11:53.

out the timing issues. There's some tax increases and tax cuts, but the

:11:54.:11:59.

bottom line, the tax decisions come to put too much zero by 20 19-20 and

:12:00.:12:04.

a bit of an increase in last year but essentially, not much. How

:12:05.:12:09.

significant are the downward revisions to the growth forecast?

:12:10.:12:13.

What difference do they make? A big difference. One of the reasons why

:12:14.:12:17.

the chancellors had to do a lot to move money around in order to meet

:12:18.:12:23.

its target in 19-20 because the growth estimates have gone down and

:12:24.:12:27.

they have gone down largely because the OBR has changed its view about

:12:28.:12:31.

productivity. A supplementary on that from one viewer who says, given

:12:32.:12:35.

that they've changed in a short space of time, why on earth do we

:12:36.:12:39.

pay so much attention to them? How credible are they? The best you can

:12:40.:12:45.

do at the moment. These things are always moving, I often give

:12:46.:12:49.

presentations that what's happening in the economy and I remind people

:12:50.:12:53.

we don't know what happened last year let alone what's going to

:12:54.:12:56.

happen in the future. The numbers are always been revised but they are

:12:57.:13:00.

the best we can get the moment. That's very helpful.

:13:01.:13:04.

LAUGHTER Another question which we discussed.

:13:05.:13:09.

You are ideally placed to give us light on this. This transition as

:13:10.:13:13.

some would have it, magical transition from big borrowing in

:13:14.:13:23.

18-19, down to 19-20, cannot happen? Is it credible and on what it based?

:13:24.:13:29.

There's one big change which is a timing change. The announcement last

:13:30.:13:35.

year he was going to change the timing of corporation tax receipts

:13:36.:13:38.

for big companies and he is now not going to do that in 2017-18, but

:13:39.:13:46.

19-20 and that means he's losing money in the earlier years balloted

:13:47.:13:48.

to the last Supper forecasts and gaining an awful lot in 19-20, a

:13:49.:13:55.

timing change. That seems entirely credible. There's no reason why he's

:13:56.:14:00.

done that, purely to flatter the numbers or I don't know. That's the

:14:01.:14:06.

biggest single thing. And then there's another change in timing,

:14:07.:14:12.

he's cutting investment spending in 19-20 but increasing it in the

:14:13.:14:17.

earlier years so he's changing the way things are timed and there are

:14:18.:14:20.

some real spending cuts in there as well which we don't know the details

:14:21.:14:24.

of parties announced some real spending cuts and some real stuff in

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there and from timing changes. If you go from big borrowing to a

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surplus, it seems to suggest the economy is suddenly in a much better

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place but what you're saying is this is just a matter of moving some

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money around. It's not because the economy is going to be in a better

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place but because of moving money around and imposing additional

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spending cuts. We didn't get to that point with our

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previous conversation for obvious reasons! But that's quite

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illuminating, isn't it? It is indeed. All these forecasts are

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based upon the Treasury taking receipts about certain times and

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about payments being made at certain times. Businesses don't pay taxes at

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the end of the month like we do, Paul Johnson's point about the tax

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changes from last year and the changes announced today will be a

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business tax rise of about ?2 billion as Simon pointed out

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earlier. ?7 billion advantage for smaller businesses, but ?9 billion

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tax take from larger business, that's a ?2 billion gain for the

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Government. That will be booked in 2019/2020 and this interest debt

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payment, if you look through the tables, they are booking quite a

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gain for the Government on the amount of money it will spend,

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paying for the debts it has. One interesting thing we didn't manage

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to ask Mr Hancock, the minister, they have got this budget surplus

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rule that they are saying we must adhere to, well they have forgotten

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they have missed another of their targets which is debt reducing as a

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proportion of national income. And that's significant? Well, it is not

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at all significant actually. LAUGHTER

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I meant politically Paul. Politically politically? We have

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seen this coming as I think Rupert said, we have seen this coming for a

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while, not meeting this rule. And actually, economically, it really

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doesn't matter very much at all. The one... Reputationly. Reputationly

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the one the Chancellor tied his colours to the mast on is the 1920

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rule and that clearly matters in and is significant. Not economically, it

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matters politically? Whether it is a 2 billion surplus or a 2 billion

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deficit to be aiming at a balance as opposed to a deficit does matter.

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What Paul reminded us how uncertain every spread sheet is and where the

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decimal point where, for George Osborne this was a rebuilding Budget

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because he was going to have to fess up the numbers on which he based his

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plans in November were wrong. No more sunshine on our dark clouds

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looming you cans but I think the big bold ideas on pensions, on the sugar

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tax, on business rates, on big changes to devolution are about

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something else, they are about his political journey and his hopes of

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rebuilding his reputation inside his own party which has taken a serious

:17:43.:17:47.

dent in the last six months or so. Because it is absolutely the case

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that he fancies his chances as becoming the next Prime Minister,

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the next leader of the Conservative Party, his friend and neighbour,

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right now, has put that on the table as an issue because David Cameron

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told us during the general election that he wouldn't do a full term. So

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wherever the actual numbers end up here? George Osborne has continually

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missed his targets. He hasn't been able to achieve his plans and the

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politics about rebuilding all of that are just as important.

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If the Chancellor knew back in November what he knows now, would he

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have done something different with his, I know you have been critical

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of this, this ?27 billion tax windfall, could he have avoided the

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situation he is in now if he spent that differently? Well, again, I

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mean, that ?27 billion is one of these numbers that is over a number

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of years, so it didn't make much difference to his 2019 target. Last

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year, he put taxes up by a lot, by ?10 billion and that's one, that's

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the main reason why he didn't have to make such big spending cuts in

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the autumn as we thought that he might have to do. What he is facing

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is a worse economic outlook and the really important thing underlying

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this is, much gloomier predictions about what is happening to

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productivity, it means less in the way of wage increases, as the famous

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saying goes, productivity isn't the only thing that matters, but in the

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long run, it is almost the only thing and so almost the only thing

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that matters has got in the OBR's opinion significantly worse going

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forward. A final thought on the prominence on the European appeal

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that the Chancellor made, using the OBR's own kind of information.

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Again, what was your thought there in terms of the certainty or the

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lack of certainty that people can apply to the scenarios of whether

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we're in or whether we're out? Well, all of these numbers are abased on

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the assumption that we stay in. What the Chancellor said was that the OBR

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would say if we vote to go out, uncertainty increases. If

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uncertainty increases then uncertainty about the numbers

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increases and that was what I heard him say and that seemed to me almost

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a statement of the obvious. Like a placing in the prominence right

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upfront and centre at the beginning of his speech spoke volumes and that

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would have made some people cross. This is from another viewer, this is

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his eighth Budget in six years and this is his 16th financial

:20:32.:20:34.

statement. There were two Budgets last year and a financial statement

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in the autumn. Does Paul think it is too many? Yes.

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LAUGHTER You will put us out of business! We

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are not allowed to say anything. I think every business lobby would

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agree with that. They like certainty and every chancellor has to do

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something every time they stand up and them having to adjust to that is

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a big burden on business. There is a problem the way we make tax an

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economic policy because it is done in secret and sprung on us twice a

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year, doesn't look like it is part of a planned strategy, yes, we have

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too many of these and we do them in the wrong way. Paul, thank you very

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much and we will let you get away to enjoy the red book!

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LAUGHTER Paul Johnson from the IFS. We are

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going straight to the Houses of Parliament because we are going to

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talk to Stewart Jose, the SNP's deputy lead leader. Stewart, thank

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you for joining us and thank you for waiting patiently. Are you in favour

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of a sugar levy? Yeah, I think that's a sensible initiative and

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there were a number of small modest initiatives in the Budget that we

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can all welcome, but at its heart, you know, I can't believe he is

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going to get away with this. The debt deficit borrowing numbers, the

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fiscal targets he set are so wrong. We have a position where the

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borrowing, which he promised for this year, won't be met for another

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four or five years. Quite an incredible tally of failure from

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George Osborne. When you say some modest measures,

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first of all, can we tackle the measures you put on North Sea Oil

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and gas which clearly have interest for Scottish voters? Very welcome.

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We called for the measures. I have also said there should have been

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more a more strategic focus on exploration and production

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allowances. In terms of the supplementary charges are there to

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be welcomed. The same with fuel duty and the same with whisky, measures

:22:36.:22:39.

like that are very sensible, it is the big picture, the big narrative

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and the big failure which was actually breathtaking today.

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When you look, as you say, you are alleging failure in those areas and

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we understand why you are making that case from your prospective, but

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the Scottish Government which is looking to gain more powers and to

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have morphisical responsibility, what then would it do in a dimp way?

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I'm thinking for example of tax thresholds would it adopt the ones

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that for example Mr Osborne has outlined today? Well, we have said

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the basic rate would go up. In terms of the 40 Pens threshold, we will

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have a look at what this means today. But I have to say, increasing

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the 40 pence threshold way above inflation at the same time as

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confirming billions of cuts from disabled people is probably not an

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approach that we would be wanting to take.

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That threshold, just to be clear, some viewers, just to recap, is

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going up to ?45,000, are you saying that an SNP Government wouldn't be

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too keen on that? Well, what we have said is we would look at the 40

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pence threshold, the threshold after the Budget this week and we have

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just had it. What I'm saying to you, and I couldn't be more clearer, to

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increase the 40 pence threshold way above inflation, while taking

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billions from disabled people doesn't seem fair, doesn't seem

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balanced and doesn't seem a very sensible thing to do That's an

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interesting point. You are criticising George Osborne for a

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breathtaking to use your words to hit his own targets of clearing the

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deficit and driving the debt down, yet at the same time, you're saying

:24:20.:24:23.

you would oppose the cut to disability payments, you have

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opposed all the way along, but you have opposed cuts he already made.

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You are trying to absolutely have it both ways, you can't criticise him

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for not getting the debt down and oppose every cut? I'm not trying to

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have it both ways. We have put forward a completely alternative

:24:42.:24:52.

model. A modest 0.5% in spending. It took a little longer, we were clear

:24:53.:24:55.

about that. We said to George Osborne however, he would fail his

:24:56.:24:59.

slash and burn approach to the economy, his austerity model, would

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fail. He said it wouldn't. And it has on debt, on deficit, on

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borrowing, on his trade and export commitment, there is no point George

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Osborne willing the ends of something and delivering means which

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are always going to fail. On the broader picture when you look

:25:24.:25:26.

at the direction of travel of the UK economy and of course, Scotland is a

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very important part of that, I'm just wondering what you would

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suggest in terms of the patterns of public spending that should change

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because clearly, we are in a corner if you look at figures and I'm

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wondering where you see the room for manoeuvre? Well, there are small

:25:42.:25:46.

things that one can do, that governments can do that make a

:25:47.:25:49.

difference. If we're serious about productivity, let's listen to the

:25:50.:25:52.

IMF when it comes to capital investment. If we're serious about

:25:53.:25:58.

innovation, let's look at the modest measures the Scottish Government

:25:59.:26:01.

have taken to support innovation, more inventions and more companies

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working directly with academia. If we are serious about these things,

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there are always measures that can be taken, things that can be done. I

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don't think anyone should be closed to ideas no matter where they came

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from. There are lots we can do to boost productivity, boost growth,

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boost tax yield, which are positive and sensible.

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In terms of taxation policy and I'm thinking about the kind of message

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that you deliver to people in Scotland, who are thinking ahead for

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the next two or three years, and I say as I mentioned the increased

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powers that the Government is getting in Scotland. And are you

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therefore, saying that they can't look forward to some of the

:26:39.:26:42.

effective cuts that Mr Osborne is himself putting forward? Oh, the

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basic rate threshold is unchanged, that's the basic rate threshold and

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everyone benefits from that. The problem with what he has done today,

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by increasing the 40 Pens threshold way above inflation and not tackling

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those who are earning modestly and won't benefit from an increase in

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the basic rate threshold, at the same time as cutting in work

:27:04.:27:07.

benefits which are vital is the wrong package of measures. And when

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it comes, I'm getting a lot of messages from disabled people who

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say they are concerned about continued cuts in welfare, what is

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your message on that? Well, we have laid out a number of things already.

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We maybe able to do in Scotland with some of the welfare powers we're

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getting. I think what we need to do is look again in the light of

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today's announcement and see what more can be done to help those

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Clearly, that again people. , is in the context of very difficult public

:27:39.:27:41.

spending targets ismt' just wondering again, where is your room

:27:42.:27:46.

for manoeuvre there then? We have had to balance the books every year

:27:47.:27:51.

in Scotland. Since the Scottish Parliament was formed, since the

:27:52.:27:54.

Scottish National Party came to power. We know how to balance the

:27:55.:27:58.

books and we know how to make tough decision. These are not unavoidable

:27:59.:28:02.

decision however, these are all political choices. George Osborne

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did not have to raise the tax threshold and take money from

:28:09.:28:13.

disabled people. He didn't have to do that. It was a political choice.

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We will layout in the manifesto all the right and appropriate political

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choices. Just to finish, I'm noticing a fut comments on social

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media here based on your comments as well. I want to underline this and

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get it very clearment you are saying that you are simply not keen on the

:28:30.:28:34.

prospect of raising that threshold to ?45,000 for higher earners that

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is not a policy that the SNP is supporting? No, I'm saying clearly,

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indeed, to having an above inflation in the 40 pence threshold when you

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are cutting money from the poorest and most vulnerable people in the

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country strikes me as a return to the nasty party from George Osborne.

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The implication is clear. Thank you very much for young us. I must end

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there. -- joining us. I must enthere. The time is coming up to

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3pm and we are saying goodbye to our viewers on the BBC News Channel. We

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are staying, of course, on BBC Two. To our viewers on the BBC News

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Channel, thank you for being with us and I will see you at 5pm. Thanks

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