How Should I Vote? The Reaction BBC News Special

A good evening to our viewers from BBC One, if you're joining us here

on the News Channel. That brings to an end the first of a series of

debates which we will be seeing over the course of the next four weeks. I

hope in some way that has informed you about what choices you have to

make. Perhaps you have been able to make a decision tonight. I think you

will agree it was a different kind of debate to the one we're used to

on BBC question time, more feisty, more interventions from the young

people in the audience, and some strong views as well. Let's bring in

our political correspondent here in Scotland. It did get quite feisty,

maybe the viewers at home would have been surprised by that? It did get

really feisty, and in some ways, it was quite good fun to watch the

audience members debating with each other. What was most in their minds,

what do young people care about the most? Jobs, their future prospects.

That was the thing which really came up a lot in this debate, with the

different politicians from using them different things about their

future. It might be better out, it might be better in.

When you listen to the young people, it always comes back to migration?

As much as the Remain camp try and keep it away from migration, the

factors there are limited jobs in Europe which might write more

migration to Britain which might be a concern for young people, even

though we are told in the polls it is not such a concern for them? That

is a point which comes up again and again. It is the point that Liam Fox

kept making. He wanted controlled migration and that came down two

jobs. These young people were picking up on housing, an issue

which we might not have thought would be a big issue in the European

Union but obviously, migration, a lack of housing, young people saying

I cannot afford my own home, what does controlled migration mean for

me? Is it more likely I could get a home to live in. The debate did

start with the issue of jobs, question of whether there would be

more jobs if Britain stayed in Europe. Let's get the views from

Diane James from Ukip and Alex Salmond from the SNP. I think you

stand a far better chance of a good job, a job where you are not

competing with potentially thousands of other European nations, if we

leave the European Union. We had 2.2 million EU workers here already.

They take effectively UK jobs. We have stubbornly high UK employment

-- and employment. We have unacceptably high youth

unemployment. Just do the maths. We have 2.2 million foreigners here. If

we continue as an EU member state, you only have to look at the

employment market for young people in the southern Mediterranean

countries, there are 53% unemployment rates, for people like

you, your age group. There has to be a case of come out, to guarantee

yourself a really good job, to guarantee yourself a job and one you

do not have to compete for. I don't go with the scaremongering

stuff incidentally, and you mentioned the Treasury

and the Bank of England The Treasury says it's going to be

apocalypse if Britain But I do believe what the Bank

of England says, which is that there will be less growth and less jobs,

and the bulk of independent So I think staying

in the European Union because of the single market,

because of prosperity, means more jobs and therefore

you have a better chance of a job. But there's one other

aspect to this. Being in the European Union means

not just a single market of 500, it's a community

of 500 million people. You've got the ability to go

and travel, to work, to visit without a visa,

so you can go into Barcelona You've got the whole of that

European community at your disposal, and a qualified person

in particular has an excellent To answer your question,

the straight answer, is it wouldn't be an economic

apocalypse if we left the European Union, but there's more

jobs and more chances if we stay in. A good point that Alex Salmond

makes, particularly pertinent to young people who are more disposed

to going abroad, working in Europe, footloose and fancy free and able to

do that. Many speak languages and perhaps some of them were swayed by

that argument that there is a community of 500 million people.

Where you swayed by the jobs argument from the Remain camp? It

was interesting watching that. This argument about the EU does come down

to the economy and that is what Diane James was saying as well. If

you leave, there is more chance of you getting a good job in the UK

than us being in the EU. That Alex Salmond picks up on this point, it

is a point the SNP have been picking up on, don't believe the

scaremongering stories from the Leave side. He was also picking up,

don't believe the scaremongering from the remain camp as well.

Picking up on the point the Chancellor has been making. That is

right, the Treasury paper. The SNP were criticising it and Alex Salmond

said, you need to make this positive argument for staying in the European

Union. You need to have that positive aspect to it but these guys

are really concerned about jobs and the economy. You say the debate here

north of the border has been a bit dull. You wanted some passion and my

word, it got a bit passionate at times. Let's hear a clip from Louise

in pool talking about the shortage of housing. She said her mother

wanted a bungalow and they could not afford to buy one. Emily and her mum

to realise the UK Government other people who should build council

houses. The European Union are not a scapegoat for you to blame. I didn't

actually say I am blaming them, I am saying at the moment, that is the

issue. It is an issue at the moment. Go to your local MP! We have tried

to. And another thing, we have a housing shortage now, the more we

let in, the less houses we will have to house them, so how do you work

that out? It is a funny -- it is funny how you have selected memory,

there are a lot of families like mine who are immigrants who have

built this nation... That was Louise there making some very forceful

points. It was interesting, Andrew, just watching the bait, you got a

surprising input from young people. The Chancellor said there is a real

danger that house prices will collapse if we leave the European

Union and one person said, maybe that is a good thing because I

cannot afford housing. That is right. That was Michael from Glasgow

who is a cleaner. He said people of his age have no chance of buying

house with the way house prices are and it may not be a bad thing if

house prices came down. Alex Salmond of the SNP again picked up on that

point and he was talking about the need for a positive vision. Another

issue that kept coming up as well was about study opportunities

abroad. Will Young people be able to study and move abroad as well if the

UK leaves the EU without a visa. Liam Fox said his father was a

French and Spanish teacher and he went on holidays to France and Spain

when he was younger and Visa travel was no problem. Alan Johnson from

Labour, the former Home Secretary, made an interesting point. He said

how do you differentiate from a Polish plumber and a Polish tourist

and the fact is, you might need some visa controls in the United Kingdom

if we were to leave the European Union. And back came the response

from Diane James that they don't have the answers. Of course they

don't have the answers because it will come after negotiations. Diane

James was criticising the Prime Minister who has not made any

planning for coming out of the European Union. It was the same here

with the referendum in Scotland. The UK civil service were not planning

for Scotland to leave the United Kingdom. So they have not done any

planning for leaving the EU. Liam Fox said if you are planning schools

and hospitals you need to know the numbers of people coming into the

country and it is difficult if you have free movement of people. Let's

listen to the response from Alan Johnson of Labour. This is a crucial

issue about whether if we were outside the European Union we would

be visas to travel. At the moment we can go anywhere within the European

Union. It is a two-way process. No other countries has more of its

citizens living and working in other developed countries than Great

Britain. If we were not to have visas and Diane, you said we would

not, to go on holiday or for people to come here, there are 2.5 million

tourists who come to Scotland every year. How will you differentiate

between the Polish plumber and the Polish tourist? It means surely a

system of visas. If you have not got a system of visas, you will be

telling people we will. Free movement but you will not introduce

visas so free movement. The there and you also, incidentally, unless

you put a border and watchtowers on the border between the Republic of

Ireland and Northern Ireland, you will have people coming across

there, because it will be an EU country and a non-EU country. Alan

Johnson they're making his point about migration. Let's see if he

changed any opinions. We have a whole host of people from the

audience. Some of them you might have seen earlier from our

broadcasting. You are from Clapham in London. Did it change any views?

Yes, it changed my mind and I have made up my mind. I will remain in

the EU. What about you, Lauren? I will also stay. I thought the No

campaign would have to put across a compelling argument and I don't

think they did that. What was particularly that changed your mind?

I came here to see the views of other young people and what they

thought about leaving staying in the EU, and most of the people from the

Leave side, they were so self-centred and I did not think

they were thinking about what is good for British people as a whole.

So it is your peers who have changed your mind and not the politicians?

Maybe there is something in that. Lauren, that has been a lot of talk

on Twitter about the debate, it is very different for some people from

Question Time. Does it encourage you that young people get so enamoured

by the debate? Yes, I think young people often make it a very emotive

debate. It is relevant to them. It is good to hear the views without

the scaremongering. Here is Benjamin Nisbet who I was talking to earlier.

You were really in a quandary about whether to remain or leave, have you

decided? It has provided some much-needed clarity on the topic. I

was not sure how each side would come across. I think the Leave

campaign were quite harsh on some of their policies. Was it the

politicians or the audience? There was a moment for me when we were

discussing the pettiness of the whole campaign as a whole and it

descended into madness. I thought, who's to blame here? For me, it was

very clear. So you are now Remain? I am leaning that way. I don't think

we need a hard-line approach on immigration. A lot of what was said

was presumptuous. We should not prioritise some races over others.

Where you swayed at all by the arguments about if you do not know

the numbers coming in, you cannot plan how many hospitals or schools

to build? I think on the basis that we are being told people from the

Commonwealth should have priority in health care, saying that we would

prefer you to other races, that is discrimination in itself and I would

not want to support any campaign which endorses that. You were also

undecided? Also undecided. What did you make of the debate? It was very

feisty. The Leave side got quite aggressive. I think using the

aggression, it embodies more of the project fear which we saw in the

Scottish referendum. Some would say that is what we need, bit of passion

because it is the most important direction that Britain will take.

Yes, but I would rather see more of the benefits of staying in the EU.

And there was a discussion about administration, it is not a reason

for us to leave. You were undecided and now? I was undecided but now

more on the side of Remain. Goodness me! Let's hear from James, finally.

Are you undecided? I am still undecided. Why are you still

undecided? The two sides are still producing sound bites. Myself, I

don't know anything about the European Union. I am currently a

student in Liverpool. There are buildings which are funded by the

EU. It has not been talked about as one of the benefits. I am pleased to

say there are two more big debates to come on the 15th and 19th of June

and an unprecedented debate two days before the vote at Wembley Arena. If

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