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We are covering the launch of the Liberal Democrat manifesto. A

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referendum on any final Brexit deal will be at the heart of that

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manifesto campaign. The British people, you,

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should have the final say. And if you don't like

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what Theresa May comes back with, you should have the

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right to vote remain. The Lib Dems are making a pitch

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for younger voters - With promises of cheap bus passes

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and help to Buy home. I think many things need to be changed, tuition,

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health care, is only to be different. I will be live in Bethnal

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Green in east London where the Lib Dems are launching their general

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election manifesto this evening and we will hear from the reader Tim

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Farron on the stage behind me in just a few minutes.

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Good evening from Bethnal Green in east London where the Liberal

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Democrats are launching their general election manifesto this

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evening. If you want to watch 100 days that is over on BBC Four. The

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Liberal Democrats have chosen this nightclub in Bethnal Green to launch

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their manifesto and in about ten minutes Tim Farron will be on the

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stage behind me launching that and making a speech. He will say that at

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the heart of this manifesto is the promise of the Liberal Democrats to

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hold a second referendum on Brexit. Many other promises as well,

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including a promise to legalise cannabis and tax the sale of that.

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This report on the Lib Dem manifesto from Vicki Young.

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He says his policies offer young people a brighter future.

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And Tim Farron has put Brexit at the heart of his campaign.

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The Lib Dems hope the promise of a referendum on any Brexit deal

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the government negotiates will persuade Remain voters

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But the polls suggest the message isn't having much impact.

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Certainly there are many people in this country lacking hope.

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They think that the only thing on the table is Theresa May's bleak

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vision of us leaving the European Union

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But there are also many people who voted Remain

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And they feel, actually, we have just got to get on with it now,

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and many of them think Theresa May is the person to do that.

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So what there is out there are many people who feel

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And what I'm saying to people is that I haven't and if you believe

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that Britain's future is better alongside our neighbours in Europe,

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you should not be forced to accept a stitch up between Brussels

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and London, you should have the final say.

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As well as a referendum on the Brexit deal,

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the Liberal Democrat manifesto promises ?7 billion of extra

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A penny rise in income tax to fund more spending

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on the NHS and social care, an end to the freeze

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And the party wants to legalise and regulate cannabis.

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There's no mention, though, of abolishing tuition fees,

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a policy the Lib Dems abandoned when they went into coalition

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Would you now accept tuition fees were the right thing to do,

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Well, you know, I voted against the rise in tuition fees.

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I think it is critically important that people keep their word.

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And that is why my advice to others is do not make

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Would you now put reversing it on your manifesto?

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We have said we would put in significant additional money

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to return grants to students to make sure it is affordable.

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Here in south-west London the Lib Dems are hoping for a comeback.

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The area voted overwhelmingly against Brexit.

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So how is their promise of another referendum

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It is very childish to think just because you do not like a decision

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that has been made and has been voted for, that you can go

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This is a democracy, this is the country that we live

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in and I think we should support that and stand by that.

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Even though the decision wasn't one that I liked.

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I do not think that the fight should ever stop.

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I think it affects far too many lives.

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And yes, we should carry on fighting until we have, you know,

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I was disappointed with the news about a potential referendum

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because I think that ship has sailed now.

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And it is about trying to get the best kind of Brexit.

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And so how many seats do you need to gain?

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My sense is that we need to increase our number of seats,

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increase our vote share, but what we need above all else

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is to offer the British people this one chance.

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This is the last chance saloon for Britain.

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If you believe Britain is open, tolerant and united,

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if you reject the extreme version of Brexit that Theresa May,

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Jeremy Corbyn and Ukip have pushed through the House of Commons,

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if you reject that and want a better future,

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the Liberal Democrats are the only party that is offering new hope.

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Two years ago the Lib Dems narrowly avoided election wipe-out.

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They're hoping Brexit thrown them a political lifeline.

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Tim Farron is going to be taking to the stage quite soon in Bethnal

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Green. Our Political Correspondent,

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Sima Kotecha is with me. She's been following

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the Liberal Democrats campaign. Choosing a nightclub for the launch,

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is that part of the message that they want to target the young

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voters? Absolutely. At the heart of the manifesto that has been launched

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our young people. We heard about things like housing, the

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legalisation of cannabis, some liberal views that would appeal to

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young people. They're playing loud music Mall, and you may remember in

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2010 the Liberal Democrats did well but young people, winning 30% of the

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vote of those aged 18 to 24. But then the figure plummeted in the

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following election and they won just 5% of the vote. So this time around

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there trying to win over at that demographic again which could lead

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to some significant seats around the country. We all know they did pretty

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badly in the last election. They lost almost 50 seats and ended up

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with just eight seats in the House of Commons. Obviously they're hoping

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to turn that around but the opinion polls are not brilliant for them at

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the moment. We must look opinion polls with caution but the most

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recent shows that there are are around 10%. Just talking to people,

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we have been falling Tim Farron for the last couple of weeks and just

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talking to people about him some people just feel that he is not

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quite cutting through. That his message is not delivering the impact

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that the other parties might be doing. So he has to do something

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significantly different I think in the next few weeks if he wants to

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win those folks. We will be listening carefully to what he's

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about to say and he is also taking part in live debate tomorrow. Nick

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Clegg in 2010 did well in the leaders debate and that led to many

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young people coming out. Even labelled by some as the Barack Obama

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of the UK election in 2010. So we will watch Tim Barron again closely

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tomorrow as it is a chance for him to show really what he's capable of.

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Thank you very much. So if Liberal Democrats have

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promised to help young people get on the housing ladder and discount

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bus passes - how will The BBC's Chris Morris has been

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giving the figures a Reality Check. The biggest revenue raising proposal

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is to add 1p to income tax across the board. The estimate that would

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raise ?6.3 billion per year. Money that they would spend exclusively on

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the NHS, care services and Public health. Then they want to reverse

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cuts in corporation tax. Back up to 20%, raising ?3.6 billion annually

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they say. There's also an eye-catching proposal to legalise

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and tax cannabis. The Lib Dems say it would raise another 1 billion per

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year. Overall this is a manifesto that will cost the country war. By

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2020 the Lib Dems will spend 14.1 billion more in new day-to-day

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spending than they would raise in taxes. That would mean a small rise

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in the budget deficit by the end of the decade. But if you strip out the

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money going into longer term investments in things like hospitals

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and roads they said they would still balance the

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books. They also want to launch a package of

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to build 300,000 new homes per year. to build 300,000 new homes per year.

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But the big thing in this manifesto, something that sets them apart from

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the Conservatives and Labour, want to hold another referendum on

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Brexit. This would be a vote on whether to accept the terms on

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offer. They also put the option of staying in the EU on the ballot

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paper. Over the next Parliament the biggest factor in determining the

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health of the British economy and spending will be the outcome of the

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Brexit negotiations. The Lib Dems said they oppose a high Brexit.

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There will be a vote in parliament on a proposed deal but in this

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manifesto the Lib Dems argue it is the British people who should have

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the final say. Back here in Bethnal Green and you

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can see on the stage some of the Liberal Democrats, members and

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supporters, holding placards saying, a brighter future. All that remains

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is for the Liberal Democrat leader himself Tim Farron to take to the

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stage and make his address to the party faithful as he launches the

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party manifesto. Our correspondent is with me, he needs to make a

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speech appealing to the party faithful tonight but also to the

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wider electorate. In order to climb up the opinion polls and try to put

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in a good performance. But he has accepted they're not going to be in

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government. Absolutely, that is incredibly interesting. From day one

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he said that the party is not going to win the election and talking to

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people on the campaign trail some are saying why is he admitting

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defeat. I put that to Tim Farron when I spoke to him earlier and he

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said it is not about admitting defeat but being realistic. But the

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goal is to is to present a strong

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opposition, they want to change the debate and hold the government

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accountable. He said the election is more like a coronation for Theresa

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May rather than an election. He said what is required is a credible

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opposition. The message is if you voted remain in the referendum you

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should vote Lib Dem. What is interesting is even those who have

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voted remain, some are actually still wanting to vote for the

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government and still want to vote for Theresa May. A subgroup has been

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created, so people who voted to remain but actually now are quite

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happy with the fact that the UK is leaving the EU. I think he has to

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win back those people on his side win back those people on his side

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and I think that message, he has to reiterate the message, show a bit of

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charisma and gravitas, that is appealing to that tough demographic.

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You have been following him around, they are targeting constituencies

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they think they can win or win back from the last election. Many of the

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constituencies they are targeting didn't bode remain. The south-west

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is crucial, just to be a Lib Dem battle ground but we were there at

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the other day in Somerset, North Norfolk, and many voted to leave,

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the area as a whole voted to leave. So he has an uphill struggle to

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convince those people to get them onside. And to actually vote for

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someone who is still going on about wanting to stay in the EU. And that

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is tough. Just to remind you, we're just waiting for the Liberal

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Democrat leader Tim Farron to take to the stage. We have live special

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coverage from here in East London on this Lib Dem manifesto launch. We

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had the Labour Party manifesto launch yesterday of course in

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Bradford and today is the turn of the Lib Dems. And very much of the

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heart of the manifesto is the promise to hold a second referendum.

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The Lib Dems saying the British people should have the final say on

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whether we stay in Europe or leave. Of course a very controversial call

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for a second referendum but one that Ted dashed Tim Farron and the

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leadership are campaigning on and campaigning hard. They did not do

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well in the last election, they lost almost 50 seats. Really a

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devastating loss in that election. And they were left with just eight

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seats in the House of Commons. They have since added one was a

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by-election so they now have nine. But there is the stage, there are

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the supporters. They will stand behind Tim Farron when he makes a

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speech. And obviously the party faithful love their leader. How does

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he compare dizzy with his predecessor Nick Clegg? A lot of

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people have said over the last couple of weeks that he is not so

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charismatic, that he is likeable and honest. They feel he has those

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values that they want the parties represent. But it is about whether

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he can have the same impact as Nick Clegg over the next few weeks. We

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know in 2010 Nick Clegg appealed to the younger demographic. Which the

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party is aiming for. But can he be as highly impactful as Nick Clegg?

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We will see over the next few weeks. At the moment the polls are showing.

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Here he is. He appears, the leader of the Lib Dems, Tim Farron. Let's

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listen as he launches the party to the election manifesto.

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A couple of weeks ago in Kidlington near Oxford I met a bloke called

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Malcolm. He came up to me in the street and he started shouting at

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me. You might have seen it on the news or the intranet. In the end we

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got along. But he was angry at me for not getting behind Theresa May

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and backing Brexit. I think I count down a bit when we spoke but I'm

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fairly sure I did not change mind. And that is fine. When the

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referendum took place last year I campaigned harder than anyone else

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to remain. I believed passionately that our children would have a

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brighter future in Britain if we remained in the EU. But we lost and

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I accept that. But that does not mean that I have changed what I

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believe. I believe that our children will have a brighter future if we

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are inside the European Union, that they will be safer and better off,

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that our economy will be stronger and our country will have more

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influence in the world. But just because I believe that does not mean

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that I think people who voted to leave are bad people. Of course

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they're not. We just disagree. I grew up in Preston in Lancashire and

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most folks in Preston voted to leave. Parts of Lancashire, two

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thirds of the people voted to leave. Friends of mine did, members of my

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family did. They do not all admit to it to my face! But I know that they

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did. Because you told my sister! Pretend otherwise! These people,

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they are my people and I love those people. There are good people. There

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are decent people. And as it happens, I liked Malcolm as well

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once he's stopped shouting at me. But here's the difference between me

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and Theresa May. I want Malcolm, everyone here, everyone in Preston,

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every single one of you, to have your say over what comes next.

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Nobody knows what Brexit will look like, the choice is -- the choices

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Theresa May will make will affect your life and our country for

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decades. Your weekly shop, your job, your environment, your safety, where

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you can travel to and where you can live. And already she is making

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choices that will affect those things including the most profound

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choice she could make, taking the UK out of the single market. That

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decision alone is a time bomb under our economy and when it blows up it

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will take down our NHS and schools with it. It will wreck our

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children's future for decades to come and it is a choice, her choice,

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plain and simple. It was not inevitable, there was nothing on the

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ballot paper last June that said we were choosing to pull out of the

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single market. Other countries are outside the EU and inside the single

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market. Just look at Norway, Switzerland. There was nothing on

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the ballot paper that said people and families from Europe who have

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made this country their home will be left in limbo not knowing if they

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can stay in the country they have raised their kids in. And definitely

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nothing on the ballot paper that said we would turn our friends and

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neighbours, our allies, into enemies. And yet here we are with

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our government making accusations of our

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neighbours and even threatening war with Spain. The choices Theresa May

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makes and the compromises she negotiates with the bureaucrats in

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Brussels will affect our children's future for decades to come. My

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children, your children. In June last year we voted for a departure

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but we did not vote for a destination. So I want you to have

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your choice over your future. APPLAUSE.

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Someone... Maybe it is obvious when you think about it, someone is going

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to have the final say over the final Brexit deal. It could be the

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politicians or it could be the people. I believe it must be the

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people. APPLAUSE. You should have the say over whether Theresa May and

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her Brexit deal is right for you and your family in a referendum. If you

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do not like the deal you should have the choice to remain in the European

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Union. Giving you the choice and giving you the choice of your future

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is exactly what our manifesto is all about. I want you to change the

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future of Britain and imagine a brighter future, imagine a future

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where our children can grow up in a country where people are decent to

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each other, where we have good schools and hospitals, where we take

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the challenge of climate change seriously. Where we give our

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teachers and nurses and soldiers the pay rise they deserve for the

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service they give to our country. While we have an open innovative

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economy, where we treat the poorest and the most vulnerable with

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compassion. Where we do not turn our backs on desperate refugees. That is

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the Britain I love and the Britain I want to lead.

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APPLAUSE. But that is not the Britain that is

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not the future that Theresa May is offering you. If you want to know

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the most revealing thing that has been said during this election, just

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look at Nigel Farage and his Twitter account. Not too often, but look at

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it just this once. In his very words Theresa May is using the exact words

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and phrases I have been using for 20 years. Think about that for a

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minute. Nigel Farage says the exact words and phrases, the Prime

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Minister of our great country saying the same things that Nigel Farage

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has been saying for 20 years. And not just the words and the phrases,

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the policies as well. That is what Ukip MEP Patrick Flynn said just

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this week. Brexit never did just mean Brexit, for Nigel Farage Brexit

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was always part of a package. Part of a worldview. It is a worldview

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that includes shunning climate change, shrinking the state by

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starving our schools and NHS of the funding that they need, turning our

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backs on some of the poorest and most vulnerable people in the world

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as Theresa May did when she shamefully closed the door on

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desperate child refugees. That is Nigel Farage's worldview, the same

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that leads to Donald Trump banning Muslims and building a wall. The

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same one that Marine Le Pen try to impose on the decent people of

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France. Nigel Farage his vision for Britain is now that of Theresa May.

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He has taken over the Conservative Party. Anti-Europe, and to refugee,

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slashing funding to schools and hospitals. No wonder Ukip is

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standing candidates down to support the Tories. After all who needs Ukip

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if the Tory government is doing what they want anyway. Somebody has to

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stand up to them. Someone has to bite -- to fight for the decent,

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compassionate Britain we love. But it will not be Jeremy Corbyn. On the

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biggest issue facing us all for a generation when all of this is at

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stake Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party has not even shown up. Jeremy

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Corbyn ordered his MPs and his Lords to go into the lobbies and vote with

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the Tories and Ukip, not against them but with them. Before the vote

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on Article 50. He said he would order his party to vote in favour,

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even if the government made no concessions, whatsoever. So surprise

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surprise, they made no concessions, whatsoever. Jeremy Corbyn did not

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need to do that he could have voted with us to stay in the single market

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or to give European citizens living here at the right to stay. He chose

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not to. Jeremy Corbyn and Labour chose not to. Jeremy Corbyn has

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always been pro-Brexit, he campaigned against Europe for years

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so we should not be surprised. But we should be bitterly disappointed.

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Labour are supposed to be... APPLAUSE.

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Labour are supposed to be the opposition but they have not post

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anything. They're supposed to stand up for working people but they have

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not stood up to anyone. They're supposed to care about our

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children's future but they're letting the Conservatives wreck it.

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They have lost the right to call themselves the opposition.

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Labour has lost its purpose. But we have found our purpose. The brighter

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future we want for all our children is at stake. Our economy is at

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stake, our schools and hospitals. This is about the future of the

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open, tolerant, united country that we love. I'm here tonight to tell

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you that we will not roll over. A few weeks ago in France the two

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parties that had run the country together for decades came third and

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fifth. The decent people of France decided they did not want to simply

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accept one of the two tired old parties so they rejected them. And

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when the two old establishment parties have been eliminated, the

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decent people of France faced a stark choice. A liberal,

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pro-European candidate who believes in an open, tolerant and unite

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France, versus the leader of the National front. Hope versus fear. A

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brighter future versus a cold, mean-spirited one. Nigel Farage

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pinned his colours to the mast, just as when he backed Donald Trump in

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America, he backed the candidate who represented his worldview.

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Anti-Europe, anti-refugee, he backed the National front. For the decent

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people of chance -- France, they've chosen hope over fear and the

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National front loss. Do not let anyone tell you the only choice you

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have in this election is between Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May. The

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selection is a your choice about your future, it is about your future

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and you can choose a brighter future where our children grow up in a

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country where people are decent to each other. Where we have good

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schools and hospitals so our children have a fair chance in life

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and the elderly are treated with dignity. Where we have a clean

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environment and innovative economy, the more Liberal Democrat MPs unite

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the better deal we will get on Europe. The more jobs, the more

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money for our NHS and schools. The more and brighter the future for our

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children. Theresa May and Nigel Farage, their cold, mean-spirited

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Britain, is not the Britain that I love. The Britain I love is

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generous, and it is compassionate. It is one where we are decent to

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each other, it is open, tolerant and united. If that is the Britain that

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you love as well then this is the moment to stand up, this is your

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chance to change Britain's future. I'm here tonight because when my

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children are my age I want to be able to look them in the eye and

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tell them honestly that when the moment came to stand up for their

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future, I stood up. I'm determined that our children will grow up in a

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country where people are decent to each other. I'm here tonight because

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the Britain but I love is not lost yet. That is the country that I want

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to leave. Thank you. -- to lead. There we are, the speech from Tim

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Farron followed by a lot of noisy music. I'm joined by a prominent Lib

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Dem, Vince Cable. to own the speech was great.

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It was a very clear speech with clear definition. It started and

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finished with the issue of Europe. Giving people the choice of the

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destination, not just the departure. That is clear. The way in which the

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Tory party has morphed into Ukip. A lot of Tory voters will be alarmed

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when they realise what they are signing up to. But your message

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doesn't seem to be cutting through to the voters, if you believe the

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opinion polls. Well, it is a very long campaign. Three weeks ago. Our

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manifesto is only out today. I think it is up from here. And really, you

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need to do so much better than the last election, when you really lost

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almost 50 seats. Can you do that? I was one of the victims in that but I

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am fighting again, as many of my colleagues are. Because of the

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British footing system, we have got to win seats will stop thoughts are

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important but we have to win seats. I am optimistic we will have

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substantial improvement and a real impact on the next Parliament. The

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message of this manifesto is really that the Liberal Democrats will not

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be in Government but want to be strong in opposition. Exactly. It is

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very clear that the Conservatives are going to win. They are probably

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going to win big. The Labour Party will be defeated. But we need a

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substantial amount of Lib Dem MPs in the next Parliament to hold the

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Government to account and form the nucleus of an effective opposition.

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Lot of condemnation of the Labour Party and Conservative Party from

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Tim Farron. He topped about a cold, mean-spirited Britain. Well, that is

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what hard Brexit leads to. It is also what we are beginning to see.

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They have been in power for two years. In many parts of the country,

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we are already seeing school budgets, hospitals and social care

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severely cut. If they get a big majority, continuing Government,

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that will be extended over a long period of time. It could get very

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nasty. Howdy explain to people who voted in the referendum that there

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should be a second referendum? People have had their say on Europe.

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They had their say on leaving. They do not know what the destination is.

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It could turn out well. It could turn out very badly. We can get no

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agreement at all. What we're seeing is when we get at that point, people

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will have the opportunity to say if they accepted the knot. But some

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people will say... You want a second referendum because you do not think

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the British people give the correct answer. The first time around. We do

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not disrespect the majority, the small majority. We accept that vote.

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The processors that but we do not know where we're going. It is one

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thing with people deciding to move house, that is fine, but they don't

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know where they are going to live. And if the houses to try rotten

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rising damp, they would decide to stay well they are. Do you have a

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problem with your leader? You're not cutting through. 9% in the opinion

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polls. Actually, I think it is a bit higher. But nonetheless, this is a

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want of a manifesto tonight. There is tremendous enthusiasm. He has

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already got the party going with the largest membership we have ever had.

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We will keep going from here. Vince Cable, thank you for your time. That

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is his reaction to the launch of the party's manifesto in Bethnal Green

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in east London. Tim Farron really launching an attack on both Theresa

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May and Jeremy Corbyn, saying that they wanted a cold, mean-spirited

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Britain. He said it hard Brexit, including leading the single market,

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would be a time bomb under economy which would wreck the lives of young

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people for decades to come. That is the launch of the Liberal Democrats'

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manifesto in this very noisy nightclub Udinese London. For the

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moment, back to you, Clive. In the quiet of this to do. It is very

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quiet here. And warm. The Liberal Democrats, as Ben said,

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hope to attract young

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