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This is a World News America, reporting from Washington, I'm Jane

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O'Brien. A rift in relations between the US and UK. Britain's

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intelligence agencies says allegations it eavesdropped on

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President Trump are utterly ridiculous. Wiretapping allegations

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also took centre stage at President Trump's meeting with Angela Merkel,

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where he stood by his claim. As far as wiretapping, I guess this past

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Administration, at least we have something in common perhaps. And the

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famous Kronos Quartet is now helping the next generation of musicians

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with new music from around the globe.

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Welcome to our viewers on public television in America and around the

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globe. They are supposed to be the closest allies, but unusually sharp

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words have been exchanged between Britain and the US. The UK is

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outraged over a claim its intelligence agency bugged Donald

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Trump during the election campaign. The allegation was made by a

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television analyst and repeated by the White House press secretary.

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Britain's denials come just one day after a key Senate committee said

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there was also no evidence that Mr Trump was bugged by US intelligence

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either. The risk Frank Gardner. Britain's GCHQ surveillance agency -

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secretly listening in, said the White House,

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on President-Elect Not true, says GCHQ,

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in a rare public rebuttal. It all began with a tweet,

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with Donald Trump alleging on social media Barack Obama had ordered

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the tapping of his phone calls Then came the claim, from Fox News,

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that GCHQ may have been behind it. Sources have told Fox News

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that President Obama could very easily have,

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and probably did, use a foreign intelligence service to gather this

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information for him. The probable culprit

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here is called GCHQ. The next thing, that unsubstantiated

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claim was being quoted That triggered alarm

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bells in Whitehall. I'm told it was serious enough

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to be considered a threat It prompted this

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unprecedented denial by GCHQ. Recent allegations, it said,

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made by media commentator Judge Andrew Napolitano about GCHQ

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being asked to conduct wiretapping against the then

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President-Elect are nonsense. They are utterly ridiculous

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and should be ignored. This is just not

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something GCHQ does. The legislation under which it

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operates doesn't allow it to happen. The governance and the oversight

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of the organisation just does not I think, in this case,

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it is absolutely clear this If Donald Trump was embarrassed,

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he wasn't showing it today - seen here meeting the German

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Chancellor, Angela Merkel. His administration has promised not

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to repeat these allegations, So, what is the damage

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to relations with Washington? MI6, MI5 and GCHQ, Britain's three

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spy agencies, all have incredibly close working relationships

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with their US counterparts. Whitehall officials insisted

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today that partnership remains as strong as ever,

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despite the controversy Still, it is a bad day

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for Western intelligence, when Britain has to publicly

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contradict a statement coming out of the highest office

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of its closest partner, Frank Gardner, BBC News, outside MI6

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headquarters in central London. President Trump was asked about

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allegations against a day. He said the media initially pointed the

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finger at the British intelligence agency and not the White House or

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the president himself. We said nothing. All we did was quote a

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certain very talented legal mind, who was the one responsible for

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saying that on television. I didn't make an opinion on it, that was a

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statement made by a very talented lawyer on Fox. You shouldn't be

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talking to me, you should be talking to Fox, OK? Making matters even

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murkier, late today Fox News said they had no evidence of any kind

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President Trump was under surveillance at any time in any way.

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Wiretapping was just one of the topics the leaders discussed today

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and a short time ago I discussed Chancellor Merkel's visit with

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Charles Koch who served as senior director for European affairs at the

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National Security Council during the Obama Administration. Thanks for

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joining me, how damaging are these wiretapping allegations? They won't

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go away. We have an expression here, when you're in a hole stop digging.

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President Trump seems to keep digging. The Republican leadership

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has come out and said no wiretapping. Now the US has more or

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less had to apologise to the UK for this report that it was British

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intelligence that was giving misinformation. That is no more

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confirmable than the wiretapping to begin with. Rather than backing off

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President Trump keeps doubling down and it is damaging his credibility.

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Those comments came at the end of that news conference but what we saw

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throughout was really a vision of two different worldviews. Angela

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Merkel talking about globalisation, defending free trade, and Donald

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Trump putting America first. How are these different approaches going to

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be reconciled? Angela Merkel put her finger on it when G said it's better

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to be talking to each other than about each other. In some ways it

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was an indication that the discussion in the Oval Office was

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probably pretty frank and tough. As you said, they are coming at the

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core issues from opposite ends of the political spectrum. I think we

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did see a bit of movement on some of the core issues, with the Chancellor

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accepting she needs to do more on defence spending, with President

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Trump saying, I will stand by historic institutions, whatever that

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means. He didn't come right out and say I support the EU, which I think

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Chancellor Merkel would have liked. There is no question this is the

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initial conversation in what is going to be a very tough

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conversation across the Atlantic over the coming months. What are the

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priorities here? They disagree on virtually everything from Russia, to

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Nato, to the future of the EU. What is the consequence if they don't get

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it right? Particularly on Russia. I think if they don't get it right we

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are in a heap of trouble because as we found out during the Obama

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presidency, Berlin and Washington need to stay in lockstep. In part

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because the French are weak politically and economically, the

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British are tied up in the Brexit negotiation, so it is really the

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leader of Germany and the United States that have been guiding the

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West at a very troubled time when there is populous rising on both

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sides of the Atlantic. The key issues for now are to stand by the

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core institutions of Nato and EU. Trump did say he supports Nato. To

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stand up to Russia because Russia continues to leaning and interfere

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in our politics. It's still got troops in Ukraine. I think the

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toughest conversation may be on trade. We saw that today in the

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press conference, Merkel said, I'm a free trader, standing by trade

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deals. Trump was really America first. That's going to be a tough

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conversation especially because Merkel is hosting the G20 coming up

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in July. All eyes on that. Charles, thank you very much indeed. Let's

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take a look at some of the other news. The UN refugee agency has said

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it is appalled by the deaths of dozens of Somali refugees after

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their boat was attacked off Yemen's red Sea coast. More than 40 bodies

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have been recovered and survivors taken to detention centres. It's not

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clear who was behind the attack. Coastguards say the vessel was

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travelling from Yemen to Sudan when it was fired at from the air. A US

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Secret Service laptop containing sensitive information about

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President Trump and Hillary Clinton has been stolen. The computer

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contained the floor plans of Trump Tower and details of the

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investigation into Mrs Clinton's use of a private e-mail server. It was

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reportedly taken from an agent's car in the New York borough of Brooklyn

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on Thursday, police are trying to identify suspects from CCTV footage.

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Egyptian archaeologists say a vast statue uncovered in a suburb of

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Cairo last week is not Pharaoh Rameses the second as originally

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thought, it is believed to depict a much later King, some take the

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first. It was found by an Egyptian- German archaeological team and had

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split into a number of parts. Its torso alone weighed more than 300

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tonnes. Today the US secretary of state Rex Tillerson continued his

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trip to Asia with a blunt message for North Korea. The White House's

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ruling nothing out including military action. Speaking after

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talks with South Korean leaders, Rex Tillerson said a policy of strategic

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patience with Pyongyang was over. Stephen Evans reports from Seoul. Mr

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to and came here with a particular message in the Foreign Ministry and

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that is that the ironclad alliance between the US and South Korea, as

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he calls it, will remain, whoever wins power in elections here in two

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months. He was firm, though quietly spoken, he said the old policy has

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ended. We wait, though, to see exactly what the new policy will be.

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Let me be very clear, the policy of strategic patience has ended. We are

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exploring a new range of diplomatic, security and economic measures, all

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options are on the table. North Korea must understand that the only

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path to a secure economically prosperous future is to abandon its

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development of nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, and other

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weapons of mass destruction. We call on other regional powers and all

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nations to join us in demanding the North Korean government choose a

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better path and different future for its people. Beyond the actual words,

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the tone of the press conference was that the moment North Korea has the

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ability to hit the continental United States with nuclear weapons

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is a moment of real crisis. And military options really will be an

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the table then. For more on secretary Tillerson's tough tour, I

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spoke to Jordan Chang, author of nuclear showdown: North Korea takes

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on the world. He joined us from New York. -- Gordon. Thank you for

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joining me. Very different tone, but what can we make of it, what does it

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mean? The Trump administration has yet to figure out its policy on

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North Korea. That is sort of understandable because North Korea

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policy isn't just about North Korea, it's about Iran, Pakistan and China,

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because these countries cooperate on ballistic missiles and nuclear

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weapon technology. This is a hard issue for the United States. Part of

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Tillerson 's brief is to find out what the Chinese position is and how

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far they can be pushed. Tillerson talks about the military operation

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but it's not going to happen because there are 25 million South Koreans

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living in Seoul, 30 parameters from the demilitarised zone separating

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the two careers. The North Korean army has about 60% of its forces

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deployed on the DMC. What can he do, if the military option isn't an

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option, what is? He talked about arming North Korea, South Korea and

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Japan with the world's most dangerous weapons. I don't think

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it's going to happen because that is ditching seven decades of American

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proliferation policy. One thing he can do which administrations in the

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past haven't tried, as a matter of fact the only thing they haven't

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tried, is to impose costs on China for aiding North Korea in illicit

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ways. If we unplugged Chinese banks from the global system for money

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laundering, which we should do, it would rock global markets but it

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would tell the Chinese for the first time in more than two decade we're

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serious about protecting the American homeland. There are no

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longer any low-cost solutions, we've got ourselves in a very bad place,

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it's going to be horrible getting out of it. How is China going to

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react? Because that is his next stop. If Tillerson was going to do

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this, and he has talked about sanctioning Chinese companies,

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Beijing would be upset. Beijing has not been cooperating, it's been

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helping North Korea, transferring missile technology, and probably

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nuclear weapons technology as well, because we know they have also

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transferred material to the North Koreans. We have to come to some

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understanding. Really a horrible realisation for us, but the Chinese

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are not on our side. They are on the side of North Korea, and we have a

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long way to go in getting China to a good place on this. The wild card is

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North Korea, you haven't mentioned what their reaction is likely to be

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and you're not dealing with a rational regime. They think the

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regime is rational but Kim Jong-un the ruler has a low threshold of

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risk. Within about three or four week period at the end of January,

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through February, we saw many instances of instability. For

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instance the demotion of the Minister of State Security, the

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execution of five senior subordinates. The killing of King

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Jong-un, the older half brother of the ruler. -- Tillerson. On the Lord

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of the intermediate range ballistic missile the head of the North Korean

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missile forces wasn't there, indicating turbulence at the top of

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the North Korean military. This is an exceedingly difficult situation

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because I believe North Korea is not stable. Thank you very much for

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joining me, Gordon Chang. You're watching World News America.

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Still to come... Reaching a remote part of China where a security

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crackdown is underway. Why Beijing worries about terrorism among this

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community. Authorities in Peru remain on high

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alert after heavy rains caused mudslides and two rivers to burst

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banks in the capital, Lima. The damage has forced schools and roads

:15:25.:15:27.

to close and tens of thousands of people have been left homeless, as

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Greg Dawson reports. As a mudslide churns up the debris of what was

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somebody's home, a woman suddenly emerges clinging for her life.

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Slowly, she is able to find her feet and carefully step away. Before

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onlookers rushed to help her. Later commit Peru's health Minister tells

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her she's had a lucky escape. She's not the only one. Just watch as a

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mudslide takes out two chucks. One of the drivers somehow manages to

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climb from his cab, just before the rushing water drags his vehicle

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away. It's not clear what happened to the people in the other lorry. In

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some parts of Peru's capital, Lima, the only route to safety is up as

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police as if children out of the flood waters. One temperatures in

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the Pacific have brought torrential rain to Peru according to the macro

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causing burst river banks and mudslides. 50 people have died in

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floods since December and tens of thousands have lost their homes. The

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floods have damaged crops and hit the tourism industry. The full

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extent of the damage will be Nova while, heavy rain will continue for

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at least another two weeks. Greg Dawson, BBC News.

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China has declared that Islamist separatists in the far west of the

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country are the greatest threat to the nation's security. The president

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promised to build what he calls a great wall of iron to safeguard the

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vast western region option Jang, home to a community of some 10

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million mostly Muslims who the government says may be vulnerable to

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radicalising propaganda from Syria and Iraq. Widespread intimidation

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makes reporting from the region extremely difficult, but Carrie

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Gracie gained exclusive access and sent this report.

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Once the fabled silk Road between China and the West, now the front

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line in China's war on terror. They called it an all-out offensive. A

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new great wall of iron. Thousands of troops, pledging to lay down their

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lives and shed blood. We're heading for the scene of the only confirmed

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attack this year. China doesn't want the world to see the police

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checkpoints. Filming has to be discreet. Body searches in every

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public building. We're the only foreign reporters to get to this

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county. Three young Uighurs knifed a group of hanging Chinese on the

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street here last month. Five victims died of their wounds. Police shot

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the attackers dead. -- Han Chinese. Some are glad of the heightened

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security. TRANSLATION: You don't need to be afraid, she

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says, this place is full of police, you can feel safe, it's a lot better

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than before. Recent attacks have all been local and low-tech. A handful

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of young farmers armed only with knives. They show no sign of

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delivering the kind of large-scale atrocity that would explain the

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government call for an all-out offensive and sending thousands of

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troops to this so-called front line. But some say there are more attacks

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than the government admits to. Security, the only growth business.

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They say it's backward here. They would get out if they could. But

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Beijing worries about where they would go. TRANSLATION: The so-called

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Islamic the so-called Islamic State posted

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videos of Xinjiang in Iraq, promising rivers of blood in Chinese

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heartland. Religion in Xinjiang is under ever-growing pressure. No

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young people in the mosque, no beards except the very old. And

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propaganda slogans urging the public to thank their Communist Party

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leaders. Some are grateful. This man sings a

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tune that Beijing likes. They call him Xinjiang's Justin Bieber. A

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reminder that Uighurs were once more famous for song than for violence.

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He told his fans disease every chance the government offers but the

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relationship between Uighurs and Han were Chinese, he says he can't talk

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about it, and I can see why he is careful. People disappear. Armed

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SWAT teams are everywhere. Foreign critics warned this repression is

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the recruiting Sergeant for terror. But China vows it will triumph. And

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until then every Uighur is suspect. Carrie Gracie, BBC News, Xinjiang.

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The Kronos Quartet has been entertaining audiences worldwide for

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more than 40 years, now they are turning their attention to the next

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generation of musicians. They've launched a project which helps

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emerging professionals and students with a series of specially

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commissioned scores. The BBC caught up with the team at the historic

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sixth and I Synagogue in Washington, DC.

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50 for the future is a five-year commissioning programme. Each year

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we commissioned five women and five men composers and making music for

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future generations. And I want just the most amazing music we can find.

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We're frequently working with young groups, some from high school, some

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from colleges, and young professional groups. They are

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playing our repertoire, that they can download for free from our

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website, the scores on the parts, you can listen to the coding is. You

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can hear each composer speaking about their work, giving details of

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interpretation and background. For free. Any time of day and night.

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Whether it has been written by Laurie Anderson, Terry Riley, we

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decided to make it has readily available as possible. That is what

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50 for the Future is trying to do. Writing for the Kronos is a great

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honour, but to think of the younger quartets behind them, I was thinking

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as I was writing, what is useful for a young quartet to learn? A nice

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thing for them to do, some little things they haven't seen before but

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nothing too extreme. I thought, what is enjoyable in this part, I play

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myself, I know what is fun to do and less fun to do. In very conscious of

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how it feels to play, so when I write something I wanted to feel

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good as well sound good, when it feels good and the player is happy

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to it, it works. I'm so pleased about the way the

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project is developing, it's much bigger than I thought. I think it's

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a very generous gesture on behalf of Chronos to give to the new

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generation is 50 new pieces which they have access to free online,

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it's a wonderful thing they are doing. What I hope is that 50 for

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the Future is this platform that will allow other groups all over the

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world to have as much fun as Chronos does.

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I want musical viewpoint expressed not only through 50 for the Future,

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but all the work Kronos does. That is is ending on a high note.

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You can find much more on all the news of the day on the website. For

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now, from all of us at World News America, thank you for watching and

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have a good weekend. For an extended look at the weather.

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We're going to look at the weather for the next week. And a little bit

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beyond. We start looking into the Atlantic at the jet stream, that

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fast flowing river in the upper atmosphere

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