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Beyond One Hundred Days.

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The European Union has found

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more than 3,500 examples

of Russian disinformation.

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All geared at destabilising the EU.

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And the European parliament says

it's an orchestrated strategy.

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According to a new report,

the Russians are spreading fake news

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in as many languages

as possible through as many

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channels as possible.

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Former Presidential advisor

Steve Bannon refused to answer

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investigators' questions on Russia.

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He says it was the White House

who ordered him not to.

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Mr Trump, his promise of fake news

awards may indeed by -- be fake

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news.

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Charm offensive or a genuine push

for peace - North and South Korea

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pledge to compete under one flag

at the Winter Olympics.

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And modern-day makeovers?

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The app that turns presidents

and prime ministers,

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into works of art.

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Get in touch with us using the

hashtag 'Beyond-One-Hundred-Days'.

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Hello and welcome -

I'm Katty Kay in Washington

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and Christian Fraser is in London.

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The full scale of pro Kremlin

meddling in European democracies has

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been exposed in a report

by the European parliament.

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What's more, the report concludes,

that an orchestrated strategy

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of disinformation has

been extremely succesful.

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The EE's Stratcom East team was set

up in 2015 to counter Russian

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interference in news reports.

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The task force found 3,500 examples

of pro Moscow disinformation.

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They found recent fake news items

include claims that France has

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banned Christian symbols and that

Denmark is feeding family

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pets to zoo animals.

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The EU's findings largely

corroborate a report released

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here by Democrats in the Senate

- they found.

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That the Kremlin backed

a coup in Montenegro.

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And supported right wing groups

in France and Germany.

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As well as left wing ones

in Italy and Greece.

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The Senate report also concluded

there'd been meddling

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in the Brexit referendum

and Catalonian

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independence referendum.

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And that Putin had ordered

the killing of a number of Russian

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opposition figures across Europe.

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Not to mention the invasion

of Crimea and Ukraine.

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Senator Ben Cardin commissioned that

report and he joined us earlier.

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So Senator Cardin, we know

what the Russians have been trying

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to do, you detail it in your report.

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I guess the question

is if they are trying to cause

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disruption in the European Union

or sow doubts about electoral

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processes, how successful

have they actually been?

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We know Mr Putin has

had some success.

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We know that he has caused a slowing

down of Serbia's integration

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into Europe because Russian troops

are in Georgia, in Ukraine,

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it is much more difficult

to see those countries'

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accession into Nato.

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We know that Russia was active

in the Brexit referendum.

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So we know that they have seen some

success in their operations.

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And European countries

have recognised that

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and taken precautions.

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So in the German election

and the French election we saw

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the impact of Russia was much more

minimised because they took steps

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to prevent that type of influence.

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You detail in the report some

of the things that European

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countries are trying to do.

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And there are quite

different approaches.

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The Germans for example have taken

down some sites and the French might

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be about to do the same.

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But they have got criticism that

that is close to censorship.

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The Czech Republic on the other hand

leave the sites up and hope

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that the mainstream media will just

tell people that this is fake news.

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Which is a preferable path,

which path works best

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in your experience?

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We want to see best practice,

I must tell you I think

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the all in approach that we have

seen particularly in

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the Scandinavian countries

where they really develop

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the curriculum for the children

to understand that there is fake

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news out there and to watch

for what is accurate

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and what is not accurate.

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We have seen with cyber defence

which some countries have been

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very aggressive on that.

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And we should demand

disclosure on internet

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advertisements during campaigns.

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We should take down those

social media sites that

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are clearly foreign dominated, that

are there to try carry out messaging

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which is against the interests

of the country.

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So I think that there are legitimate

areas where you take best practice

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in order to defend ourselves.

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Senator, the Swedish government

announced this week it is creating

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a new government agency to tackle

Russian and other propaganda.

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It is putting money into

intelligence and into cyber defence.

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When you compare that to eight

months out from an election,

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with what is going on in

the United States ahead

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of the midterms at the moment,

it is pretty stark.

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You are quite correct.

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With the Swedish government,

what it is doing is preparing

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for their next elections.

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The US, we have been attacked,

we were attacked in 2016.

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And yet we have yet to take steps

to protect our election process

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in 2018 from the president

of the United States.

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We should have an interagency fusion

operation to get an all in approach

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to defend our country.

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President Trump has

failed to do that.

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Senator Cardin, thank

you very much for joining us

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amid the singalong in the Senate!

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I should just explain that he was in

the Rotunda, a building where all

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the senators have their offices.

Anyone can go in and today we had a

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group supporting those young people

who could be deported onto the Dream

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act. That is democracy! Latvia is on

the border with Russia. I read in

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that report that for every tweet

sent in Russian, five are sent by

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Russian bots. It is a five in one

ratio. Sweden also saying it has

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interference already in its election

so this is a big problem in Europe.

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One of the items of fake news I

picked up in that European

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Parliament report, one item is

saying that Sweden is about to

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introduce a law demanding written

consent before you have sex. Not

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quite sure who believes that but I'm

afraid some people do.

Jeff Flake

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was on the floor of the Senate today

talking about many things and he

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talked about Russian interference as

well and made the point that there

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has only been one cabinet meeting,

he has only brought his Cabinet

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secretaries together, not even once,

to discuss this. And Senator Carden

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said that that was negligent.

And

Republicans I think would also say

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more has to be done. And why is the

president not taking this as

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seriously as you might expect given

that America was attacked by Russian

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disinformation during the 2016

elections.

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Former White House advisor

Steve Bannon went before

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a congressional committee

on the Russia investigation

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yesterday and refused

to answer questions.

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He says the White House

ordered him not to.

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Democrats on the committee say

Mr Bannon was effectively gagged

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by the Trump administration.

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But this may not be the last time

we hear from Mr Bannon on the issue

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of whether the Trump campaign

colluded with Moscow

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to win the 2016 election.

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American press reports say he has

been subpoenaed by special

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counsel Robert Mueller -

that would make him the first member

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of the President's inner circle

to receive a grand jury subpoena

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from the Mueller probe.

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Our North America Reporter

Anthony Zurcher is with us.

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Steve Bannon is called before the

congressional committee and he goes

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voluntarily, he gets there and ask a

question and he just gets on the

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phone to the White House?

Apparently

his lawyer was in communication with

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the White House at the time he was

sitting in this interview with the

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committee. He was claiming executive

privilege, maybe not directly, the

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White House saying while you are

with the president, working in the

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White House, apparently on the

transition team as well in the lead

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up to the inauguration of Donald

Trump, that you cannot divulge to

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Congress what kind of advice you are

giving the president. That the

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president is entitled to a candid

advice from his advisers. This is a

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privilege going all the way back to

Richard Nixon.

Does it suggest that

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Steve Bannon might have told things

to that committee that could have

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made the White House nervous.

It

certainly seemed that way. What we

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heard from the Michael Wolff book,

is Steve Bannon thinks Donald Trump

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Junior and Jared Kushner and Paul

Manafort had a meeting with Russians

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during the campaign which was

treasonous or unpatriotic. He may

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also think there are other problems

with for example money-laundering.

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So those are all things he could

have talked about. Although it seems

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like a lot of the investigations of

Robert Mueller is looking at the

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firing of James Comey and any

possible obstruction of justice.

I

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will never submit you to a 10-hour

congressional hearing on Russia,

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Christian!

Ten hours in front of a

Senate committee and not answer any

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of their questions. It is

remarkable. In a way I suppose it

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was a test of his loyalty yesterday.

The Democrats probably thought he

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would spill the beans.

That could

have been the case and Republicans

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and Democrats were upset about this,

their separation of power concerns

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and Congress has the right to

investigate the presidency and

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possible misdeeds as part of the

hearing. What is more interesting,

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news reports that Steve Bannon is

willing to talk with Mueller about

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anything and everything, no

executive privilege concerns with

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that kind of interview. And media

reports today that that will be not

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an official grand jury testimony any

more, there was a subpeona issued

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yesterday by beverage some agreement

whereby Steve Bannon will fit with

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the prosecutors and talk with them

in much less formal and much less

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under the glare of the spotlight

kind of procedure. That is what

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other people do from the Trump in a

circle, Sean Spicer for example.

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They all had this less than formal

interview process.

Thank you very

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much. I guess the question if he

does not answer questions

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satisfactorily in the informal chat

situation then does the subpeona

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rear its head again. Clearly Steve

Bannon is central to this. And

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someone these investigators really

want to speak to because he spent so

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much time with the president.

Well

we have the deputy chief of staff,

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and former campaign manager on the

Trump campaign today, both before

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the house. And later in the week we

have the communications director,

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very much in the loop. But the White

House saying we want to get this

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finished as quickly as possible but

on the other hand telling them all

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but they're bound by executive

privilege. So not really helping to

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bring it to a speedy conclusion.

I

think the White House has said they

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hope it will wrap up soon but no

indication here that it is actually

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going to be done any time before the

summer when Paul Manafort goes to

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trial.

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A senior Republican took

to the floor of the Senate today

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and compared President Trump

to the Soviet dictator

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Joseph Stalin.

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But the main criticism

in Jeff Flake's speech

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was reserved for his party,

for standing by as Mr Trump

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assaults the American media.

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The Senator is free

to speak his mind because he

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is retiring this year.

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But there are other Republicans

who share the opinion,

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that by classifying the news media

as "the enemy of the people",

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Mr Trump not only endangers

journalists around the world -

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he also sets a poor

example for countries

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led by authoritarians and dictators.

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The enemy of the people was how the

president of States called the free

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press in 2017. Mr President it is a

testament to the condition of our

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democracy that our own president

uses words infamously spoken by

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Justice talent to describe his

enemies.

And in an opinion piece in

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the Washington Post yesterday,

Senator John McCain also called on

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the president to stop attacking the

news media and encouraged Congress

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to embrace a free press in ways that

Donald Trump does not seem too.

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Whether Trump knows it or not,

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these efforts are being closely

watched by foreign leaders

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who are already using his words

as cover as they silence and shutter

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one of the key pillars of democracy.

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So said John McCain. He went on to

make the point that some people,

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journalists have been arrested

around the world in the last year

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under the premise of fake news. And

that term has started to spread and

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authoritarians are using it. That

speech from Jeff Flake was designed

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to coincide with the Donald Trump

fake news awards. He said that they

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would go to the most corrupt and

biased of the mainstream media and

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would presented on January 17. The

interest in these rewards is far

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greater than anyone could have

anticipated. But when asked when the

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rewards were absent from schedule

today the press secretary told White

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House reporters that they were only

a potential event. So are the fake

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news awards in fact fake news?

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Last night on his show

Jimmy Fallon gave us his take

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on what the awards could look like.

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The first annual fake news awards.

Your host, President Donald J Trump.

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Biggest loser. Welcome to the fake

news awards which are totally real

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unlike the really fake news which is

fake and not real. This is the first

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annual fake news awards.

And the

winner, have a guess. CNN. They were

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actually the only nominee. And the

failing New York Times!

The whole of

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the Washington press corps has been

in a campaign amongst itself to see

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who was going to be able to claim

the honour of actually getting the

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fake news award. No one wanted to be

left off the list.

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North and South Korea have agreed

to march together under a single

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"unified Korea" flag at next month's

Winter Olympics in the South.

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They also agreed to field a joint

women's ice hockey team

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after rare talks at the truce

village of Panmunjom.

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These are the first high-level talks

between the two Koreas

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in more than two years.

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The Games will begin on 9 February

in Pyeongchang in South Korea.

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So is diplomacy working or are we

moving towards some kind of

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conflict? Admiral Mike Mullen joined

me earlier, a former leader of the

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US forces. There is a meeting going

on in Vancouver where they are

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trying to talk about what to do on

the Korean peninsula. How real do

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think the possibility is of military

conflict with North Korea?

I

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certainly hope it never occurs

although I am increasingly concerned

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about that possibility. And

encouraged about the discussions

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between the north and south although

at this point it is just a baby step

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and I take no comfort in that. A

long way to go to see that proved

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fruitful. And encouraged by the

meeting in Vancouver, 14 countries

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whose leaders are focused on this

and I think that is tremendously

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representative of what needs to

happen. But until I see actual

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movement with respect to the real

issue of nuclear weapons I remain

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increasingly concerned.

In terms of

the sweep of history over the past

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ten or 15 years to think we're

closer than we have been before?

I

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think there is no question that we

are. And we see that in the

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readiness levels that both the

United States has and our allies are

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working on as well, the increased

focus certainly the actions that

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have been taken by Kim Jong Un. I do

not see anything moving in the right

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direction so I think we're closer

than we have been in decades in

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terms of potential conflict breaking

out on that peninsula.

I want to ask

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about the White House and American

engagement in diplomatic processes

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and whether it is North Korea or

sanctions in Iran or trade, there

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seems to be some kind of containing

influence around the president and

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his instincts from generals who you

know well. Which is winning out, the

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president and his gut as he likes to

call it order restraining influence

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of the generals?

So far secretary

Tillerson and James Mattis have

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spoken clearly about the need to get

to a diplomatic solution in North

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Korea. So I'm somewhat optimistic

that their influence and their

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counsel to the president is being

listened to. I do not think we have

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had the debate we need to have in

this country about the use of

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nuclear weapons. I think that we

almost talk about it somewhat in a

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cavalier fashion in terms of just

another level of combat. They are

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the most devastating weapons on

earth. And so all efforts to press

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this to a solution that does not

involve combat and the potential for

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nuclear war must be expanded.

When

your joint Chief of staff you must

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have worked with leaders of many

many African nations particularly in

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terms of extremist groups what you

make of the recent derogatory

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comments made by the president about

Africa?

One thing that is obvious

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working in this field is that

countries around the world both as

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the nation itself as well as

individuals who lead them, they want

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to be treated with respect. We need

friends and allies. And so

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describing countries as they did, I

do not think you get anywhere in

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terms of where we can go down the

road with respect to that

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relationship or in the global

community. So I hope that this ends

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very quickly though I think a lot of

damage has been done.

The president

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has been in office for almost one

year, what impact has he had on

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America and its standing in the

world?

Many people are still trying

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to figure out where we are going as

a country and certainly the

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president as the leader of our

country and the free world is

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creating a lot of that uncertainty.

I worry about the debates in

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Washington quite frankly,

undermining the values that are so

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important to us as a country and

while we may not see the impact

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immediately, I worry about the

erosion that takes place of who we

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are in terms of equality and freedom

and democracy. And bringing all of

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that very much into question.

Thank

you for joining me. He has always

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been seen as one of the sober voices

in American national security and to

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hear him saying that we're closer

than ever to some kind of conflict

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with North Korea and that Americans

just have not had a conversation

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about what that means, that he feels

that the country is underestimating

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the awfulness of what a nuclear war

right look like. I thought that that

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was very striking and quite

alarming.

And he was also saying

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about the battle against extremists

in areas of Africa where regional

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leaders must pool intelligence from

factions about who is working in

0:21:150:21:21

their midst and it becomes much more

difficult when they think it is the

0:21:210:21:26

whites first policy rather than

America first, interesting to get

0:21:260:21:28

his thoughts on that.

0:21:280:21:39

Well former White House

communications director Anthony

0:21:400:21:45

Scaramucci is ready for a comeback.

0:21:450:21:48

The Former White House

Communications Director Anthony

0:21:480:21:49

Scaramucci has said Donald Trump

is sure to win another

0:21:490:21:52

election by a landslide.

0:21:520:21:54

He's going to get re-

elected and it'll probably be

0:21:540:21:56

a landslide re election.

0:21:570:21:58

The way the American poilitical

system works it's almost impossible

0:21:580:22:00

to defeat a sitting president

unless you have a calamitous

0:22:000:22:02

situation like a depression.

0:22:020:22:05

You just agreed with me

that his standing now with American

0:22:050:22:08

public is at an historic low?

0:22:080:22:10

I didn't say historic low I said

he was roughly at the same approval

0:22:100:22:13

rating that Obama had.

0:22:130:22:15

What universe are you living on?

0:22:150:22:17

I'm living in the same universe

you are on and that's why

0:22:170:22:20

I want to get invited back

when he wins and we'll be popping

0:22:200:22:23

champagne together, you and I, OK?

0:22:230:22:26

He's gonna win re-election

because he's got the right policies

0:22:260:22:28

for the American people.

0:22:280:22:38

Today I was reading and I had to

remind myself in this extraordinary

0:22:380:22:43

first year of President Trump, he

lasted just six days in the job.

0:22:430:22:46

That quirky period in the summer

where he breezed in and bruised out

0:22:460:22:50

just as quickly.

That was the period

when I had to censor my reading of

0:22:500:22:55

news reports for my mother because

the language coming out of the White

0:22:550:22:57

House was obscene, and aren't not

for her to hear. But he is right

0:22:570:23:04

that there is still a reasonable

chance that he could win the

0:23:040:23:07

election and still many of the Trump

supporters say we do not like his

0:23:070:23:13

tweets but basically he's doing a

good job for the country and we are

0:23:130:23:17

still behind him.

And more of that

interview on the BBC website.

0:23:170:23:23

Now if you've ever wanted to know

who your fine art doppelganger is -

0:23:230:23:26

a new app has the answer.

0:23:260:23:28

Yeah - this is a new feature

of the Google Arts & Culture app.

0:23:280:23:31

It trawls tens of thousands

of portraits from museums

0:23:310:23:33

and galleries around the world

to find the face that best

0:23:330:23:36

matches any portrait.

0:23:360:23:37

Let's take a spin through our

world leaders to see

0:23:370:23:39

who they're paired with.

0:23:390:23:40

Starting out with Donald Trump -

he's got a 69% match rating

0:23:400:23:44

with this sketch by William Owen,

called 'portrait of a man'.

0:23:440:23:47

Up next it's the British prime

minister Theresa May -

0:23:470:23:49

she's drawn similarities

with Victorio C Edades 'mother and

0:23:490:23:51

Daughter' painting.

0:23:520:23:53

And then there's German

Chancellor Angela Merkel.

0:23:530:23:55

She's 60% like Umberto Moggioli's

'Testa di fanciulla'.

0:23:550:24:05

Now you said I was not an oil

painting but I share alike says of

0:24:100:24:15

52% with Sir Walter Scott. A rather

fitting resemblance.

What is the

0:24:150:24:21

other 48%?

I think we are quite

alike. You are 44% Voulgari. I have

0:24:210:24:38

been having a look. You will be

relieved to know that she was high

0:24:380:24:43

society in Greece in the 19th

century and in fact a member of the

0:24:430:24:50

Royal Court in the years after Greek

independence. And she's holding a

0:24:500:24:56

very fine fan and wearing a ruby

ring. Not a bad person to be twinned

0:24:560:25:01

with.

I think that that is quite

fitting. And for all the viewers,

0:25:010:25:11

you can run through this app

yourself. Or you can in America. I

0:25:110:25:18

ran it through and I got three male

portraits but then I got make-up on

0:25:180:25:27

and I got FEMA matches. So Google,

get with the programme.

0:25:270:25:33

This is Beyond 100

Days from the BBC.

0:25:330:25:35

Coming up for viewers on the BBC

News Channel and BBC World News...

0:25:350:25:41

He has been described as a hologram

president, if elected can Carles

0:25:410:25:46

Puigdemont and really govern from

self imposed exile? And plans to

0:25:460:25:53

move the Bay you have a street to

the UK from France. All still to

0:25:530:25:56

come. -- the Bayeux Tapestry.

0:25:560:26:06

the UK from France. All still to

come. -- the Bayeux Tapestry.

0:26:060:26:10

It is rarely a good thing when the

weather is making the news. Some of

0:26:120:26:17

us have been seeing a lot of snow.

More on the way for some, a

0:26:170:26:23

deepening area of low pressure

coming in from the Atlantic. Further

0:26:230:26:27

south it is rain and wind. On the

northern flank wind and snow and

0:26:270:26:33

especially parts of southern

Scotland and northern England. So

0:26:330:26:38

some higher accumulations overnight.

And so we have an amber warning in

0:26:380:26:42

force here. Some rain and snow

moving across Northern Ireland

0:26:420:26:46

through the evening. Lingering

through southern Scotland. Up to 20

0:26:460:26:50

centimetres of fresh snow here. To

the south we have rain and gale is

0:26:500:26:56

as well. Some big waves around

western coasts. And going into

0:26:560:27:02

tomorrow morning, the bulk of the

weather system has cleared away but

0:27:020:27:07

there will be after effects and the

risk of some disruption for the rush

0:27:070:27:12

hour. It is icy across untreated

surfaces in Scotland, Northern

0:27:120:27:15

Ireland. Overnight rain, sleet and

snow pulling away from northern

0:27:150:27:22

England but again I see in places.

And further rain and hail showers in

0:27:220:27:29

the north-west of England and into

the Midlands. A blustery start

0:27:290:27:33

across southern areas. Some showers

dotted around. But for many across

0:27:330:27:38

the eastern side of the UK we have

gales to begin with but what follows

0:27:380:27:44

will be largely dry. But the showers

continue into the north-west, North

0:27:440:27:50

Wales and north-west England. And

increasingly snow to lower levels as

0:27:500:27:54

we go through the day. The wind

easing a bit but it is a chilly

0:27:540:28:00

north-westerly wind. And feeling

again below freezing. A similar

0:28:000:28:07

weather pattern going into Friday,

some sunny spells but across the

0:28:070:28:12

north-west of the UK especially

further sleet and snow showers to be

0:28:120:28:14

had. A lot quieter as the weekend

begins. Sunny spells and fewer

0:28:140:28:20

showers. And another weather system

coming in for Sunday. Many of us

0:28:200:28:26

will get rain from that bad again

the risk of some snow further north.

0:28:260:28:31

This is Beyond 100 Days, with me,

Katty Kay in Washington.

0:30:070:30:10

Christian Fraser's in London.

0:30:100:30:15

Our top stories...

0:30:150:30:17

A new US senate report says

the Russians are spreading fake news

0:30:170:30:20

in as many languages as possible

through as many

0:30:200:30:22

channels as possible.

0:30:220:30:26

As foreign ministers meet

in Vancouver to discuss North Korea,

0:30:260:30:32

a former top US military officer

tells us we aren't having

0:30:320:30:34

the debate we should

about the use of nuclear weapons.

0:30:340:30:42

I think we almost talk our bloated

somewhat cavalierly in our way of

0:30:420:30:48

just another comeback. They aren't

the most devastating weapons on

0:30:480:30:55

earth -- we almost talk about it

cavalierly.

0:30:550:30:59

A year on since Aleppo

was recaptured from rebel forces

0:30:590:31:01

we return to see how the ancient

city has changed.

0:31:010:31:04

Weaving its way across the Channel,

the Bayeux tapestry is set to leave

0:31:040:31:07

France for the first time

in 950 years.

0:31:070:31:10

Let us know your thoughts

by using the hashtag

0:31:100:31:19

#Beyond100Days.

0:31:190:31:23

The Catalan parliament

is meeting for the first time

0:31:230:31:25

since it was dissolved

by the Spanish government -

0:31:250:31:28

in response to the unilateral

declaration of independence

0:31:280:31:30

in October.

0:31:300:31:31

Members of parliament will now

nominate a new president.

0:31:310:31:34

The Spanish Prime Minister Mariano

Rajoy is warning the former leader

0:31:340:31:38

Carles Puigdemont not to try to run

Catalonia from his self-imposed

0:31:380:31:41

exile in Belgium -

warning that if he is chosen

0:31:410:31:44

as President, Madrid will retain

control of the autonomous region.

0:31:440:31:49

Gavin Lee is in Barcelona for us.

0:31:490:31:57

The three separatist parties have

the absolute majority in parliament.

0:31:570:32:02

Do they see eye to eye and will they

elect Carles Puigdemont as president

0:32:020:32:06

again?

No and yes, in short. They

don't see eye to eye, what parties

0:32:060:32:15

do? The on the right and on the

left, you have the key parties for

0:32:150:32:23

independents here, and the

Democratic Catalonian party, Carles

0:32:230:32:29

Puigdemont's party. They have 70 out

of 135 seats in parliament so they

0:32:290:32:40

have a majority, they need 68 seats

but they need that coalition. Today

0:32:400:32:48

they elected a speaker of the house

who was a separatist, and it is his

0:32:480:32:53

job to elect the next president

within ten working days. From

0:32:530:32:59

talking to all sides, that will be

Carles Puigdemont and people talk

0:32:590:33:03

about the hologram president because

he is 800 miles away and if he steps

0:33:030:33:10

into space he will be arrested for

sedition. His supporters say he

0:33:100:33:14

won't come here they he can govern

from Skype or Twitter.

Are we

0:33:140:33:25

getting any closer to the story

being resolved? It never seems to

0:33:250:33:31

get closer to a resolution.

You're

watching this from afar, imagine

0:33:310:33:37

living through it. It is three

months since the Catalan parliament

0:33:370:33:42

was dissolved by the Spanish

government, it is affecting the

0:33:420:33:47

region, according to the Economy

Minister, it's costing about 1

0:33:470:33:52

billion euros to the contrary. We

are starting to get a political

0:33:520:33:57

route through the crisis, if not a

resolution, to see where it's

0:33:570:34:02

playing out in the next two weeks

because if Carles Puigdemont is put

0:34:020:34:08

forward again as president, the

Spanish government says emergency

0:34:080:34:13

rule will remain unless he comes

here and he is not going to. Those

0:34:130:34:19

on both sides acknowledge that a

constitutional court could suspend

0:34:190:34:23

the parliament again so for those

hoping for a quick resolution, it

0:34:230:34:28

doesn't look clear that that will

happen.

Gavin Lee, clearly going to

0:34:280:34:35

take up residence in Barcelona, not

a bad place to be.

0:34:350:34:41

The final battles for Aleppo

were being fought a little

0:34:410:34:43

more than a year ago.

0:34:430:34:44

Now, both the west and what was once

the rebel-held east are now

0:34:440:34:47

firmly back in the control

of President Assad's government.

0:34:470:34:49

Our chief international

correspondent, Lyse Doucet,

0:34:490:34:51

was in the ancient city in the last

days of the fighting

0:34:510:34:54

there and is back there now to take

us through what's changed.

0:34:540:34:57

Dawn holds little fear now

for the city of Aleppo.

0:34:570:35:01

Gone are the warplanes,

at least from here, and a

0:35:010:35:04

train now runs from east to west.

0:35:040:35:07

Aleppo is back in government hands.

0:35:070:35:10

Its tallest building

leaves you in no doubt.

0:35:100:35:15

Nor do the songs schoolchildren

sing in praise of their president.

0:35:150:35:20

In the area once held by rebels.

0:35:200:35:30

A daily rhythm returns

for 12-year-old Rahan.

0:35:340:35:37

Her school was

controlled by hardline

0:35:370:35:38

Islamist groups.

0:35:380:35:41

TRANSLATION:

I didn't go

to school during the war

0:35:410:35:49

because of the shelling

and there were armed

0:35:490:35:51

men in the building.

0:35:510:35:52

We didn't learn anything at all.

0:35:520:35:53

This is what we saw

here in the last days

0:35:530:35:56

of battle, the smell of explosives

still in the air, buildings

0:35:560:35:58

flattened by Syrian air strikes.

0:35:580:36:00

Now safe enough for people

to start coming back.

0:36:000:36:07

Umm Halil is one of the first

on her street to bring her

0:36:070:36:10

family home.

0:36:100:36:11

Like many others she's returning

from a government area to

0:36:110:36:14

this small flat with no

electricity, no running water.

0:36:140:36:21

TRANSLATION:

It was so hard

to see the damage.

0:36:210:36:23

We are rebuilding bit by bit.

0:36:230:36:30

We are rebuilding bit by bit

whenever we earn a little money.

0:36:300:36:34

Her husband's face says it all.

0:36:340:36:40

The life he knew is gone -

that they all knew.

0:36:400:36:43

Life is slowly returning

to the streets.

0:36:430:36:45

You see the signs of it everywhere.

0:36:450:36:47

But the destruction

here is overwhelming.

0:36:470:36:52

With time, money, some

of this will be rebuilt

0:36:520:36:54

but so many lives have been

0:36:540:36:56

shattered too, and

possibly beyond repair.

0:36:560:37:00

This is all that's left of

the industrial zone

0:37:000:37:08

at the edge of the city,

once Syria's economic heartland.

0:37:080:37:12

There's still fighting here,

the front line only a few

0:37:120:37:14

hundred metres alone.

0:37:150:37:16

This factory was damaged

and looted by rebel forces.

0:37:160:37:20

My family's life is destroyed.

0:37:200:37:25

It's terrible.

0:37:250:37:35

All the factories here were more

than 1000 - all except

0:37:350:37:38

a very few still lie silent.

0:37:380:37:39

It will take many billions

to rebuild Syria.

0:37:390:37:41

How can a broken country do that?

0:37:410:37:43

It takes a lot of

money but as we must say,

0:37:430:37:47

we need all the countries

to release the sanctions.

0:37:470:37:54

You want the sanctions

lifted on Syria?

0:37:540:37:56

Yes.

0:37:560:37:58

The West says that won't happen

until the war is over.

0:37:580:38:02

Now we are going to finish it.

0:38:020:38:07

We are going to finish it.

0:38:070:38:11

The end of battle in this ancient

city turned the tide of war

0:38:110:38:14

in President Assad's favour.

0:38:140:38:16

One year on, it's not over yet.

0:38:160:38:19

So many lost so much,

this great city

0:38:190:38:22

may never be the same.

0:38:220:38:32

You wander amid all that devastation

and the war of attrition, hope

0:38:350:38:41

people who oppose President Assad

will ever accept him as their

0:38:410:38:44

president. It still has some way to

run.

Awful to see one of the great

0:38:440:38:52

cities of the Middle East

disintegrated like that.

0:38:520:38:57

Should the UK hold a second Brexit

referendum? Nigel Farage suggested

0:38:570:39:04

it may be unavoidable and

Jean-Claude Yunker said he would be

0:39:040:39:08

happy to help the UK rejoined the EU

if he wants to.

But Theresa May has

0:39:080:39:15

ruled it out, so all eyes on round

two of the negotiation which begins

0:39:150:39:21

in March. The EU is keen to know

what kind of future relationship the

0:39:210:39:26

UK once and plenty of labour

supporters would like to know where

0:39:260:39:33

their party stands. Here's the

Shadow Minister explaining.

0:39:330:39:40

I get a bit irritated

when you say it's not clear

0:39:400:39:46

because it is very clear,

what it isn't is a yes-no answer

0:39:460:39:49

but I do think people are capable

of getting their heads around this.

0:39:490:39:52

We're saying we want the benefits

of the single market

0:39:520:39:54

but we are uneasy about accepting

all of the...

0:39:540:39:57

Hang on a minute, this

doesn't sound clear.

0:39:570:39:59

We want the benefits

of the single market.

0:39:590:40:04

Our constituents have said to us

clearly in voting to leave

0:40:040:40:07

that there are aspects of membership

they are not content

0:40:070:40:10

to continue with so that's why

it is a negotiation and you cannot

0:40:100:40:13

just continue to be in the single

market and the Customs Union

0:40:130:40:16

and accept all the strings attached

to that and say to constituents,

0:40:160:40:18

we have delivered Brexit,

because they will not accept that.

0:40:180:40:26

To help us unpick some of that let's

turn to our regular contributors

0:40:260:40:29

on Beyond 100 Days -

the Labour MP and member

0:40:290:40:34

of the Brexit Select

Committee, Seema Malhotra,

0:40:340:40:37

and the Conservative

Party's Nigel Evans,

0:40:370:40:38

who is also a member

0:40:380:40:40

of the International Trade Select

Committee.

0:40:400:40:46

We have perhaps picked, unfairly, on

the shadow Brexit Secretary, the EU

0:40:460:40:53

says the UK cannot have its cake and

eat it, you are either in the single

0:40:530:40:58

market for you or not, so why does

labour think there is a third way?

I

0:40:580:41:06

have laid out my own view since the

day after the referendum, my view is

0:41:060:41:11

that we have to find our way to

where we keep the best of our

0:41:110:41:15

relationship with the EU, and that

requires greater flexibility around

0:41:150:41:22

the freedom of movement rolls,

greater controls for a nation states

0:41:220:41:25

if they wish. That might mean you

have a sector -based approach or

0:41:250:41:30

some other approach to immigration

but there is a fair system that

0:41:300:41:36

gives back control people have lost,

I didn't think that's incompatible

0:41:360:41:40

with being in the single market,

there is a debate about whether the

0:41:400:41:46

four freedoms artfully indivisible,

that we have to be clear about what

0:41:460:41:50

will be right for the economy and if

I can say something about Nigel's

0:41:500:41:55

party, the idea that Theresa May has

any clarity about what the forward

0:41:550:42:02

vision looks like of life after we

leave the EU, we haven't heard it in

0:42:020:42:07

parliament yet.

No, we haven't,

Nigel!

Happy new year. We just had

0:42:070:42:16

the third reading so it goes from

one bit of Parliament to the Lords,

0:42:160:42:23

so that is where the next battle

will now take place.

For months.

It

0:42:230:42:30

will be interesting to see what

people like Lord and Jonas and

0:42:300:42:34

Michael has a fine, who both feel

the British people got it wrong and

0:42:340:42:39

we should not leave the EU, so they

should scrutinise the legislation.

0:42:390:42:46

How can you be so cavalier with the

affections of Donald Tusk, who says

0:42:460:42:52

his heart is open, let's come back,

how can you throw that back in his

0:42:520:42:56

face?

For all Donald Tusk, I

appreciate why he doesn't understand

0:42:560:43:04

democracy because he hasn't really

been elected to a proper presidency,

0:43:040:43:10

he has just been elected by the

country's' prime ministers and

0:43:100:43:16

governments, so we understand why he

doesn't really understand why we

0:43:160:43:21

have had the biggest festival of

democracy this country has ever

0:43:210:43:26

seen, the British people had our

binary question and they decided out

0:43:260:43:31

and that is what we will deliver.

Nigel has sidestepped all the issues

0:43:310:43:38

we have been debating, all the

issues of parliamentary sovereignty

0:43:380:43:43

and how to manage transition and the

legal basis for trade in just over a

0:43:430:43:48

year for all the sectors in the

economy, on whether ministers can

0:43:480:43:54

roll back legislation on equality.

Let me just jump in without

0:43:540:44:00

question.

Politicians on both sides

said the debate was about whether we

0:44:000:44:09

leave the EU, it wasn't about how we

leave, and Nigel has to

0:44:090:44:13

understand...

Quickly, we will leave

quickly.

We can all agree there are

0:44:130:44:22

divisions in both your parties but

what do you think, and Nigel let me

0:44:220:44:27

start with this idea about the IDF

list by Nigel Farage of a second

0:44:270:44:34

referendum. It was so much fun first

time around.

This was all about

0:44:340:44:41

reviving the popularity of Nigel

Farage, and giving him more

0:44:410:44:46

publicity. I likened him to a fruit

machine in the corner of our pub and

0:44:460:44:51

if nobody plays it for ten minutes

it makes an irritating noise. If I

0:44:510:44:57

see him, I will tell him that. The

Prime Minister has ruled out a

0:44:570:45:03

second referendum, on the back of

that propaganda pamphlet that David

0:45:030:45:08

Cameron sent to every household, it

said we will follow the wishes of

0:45:080:45:14

the British people, and that is the

problem for the Labour Party, a lot

0:45:140:45:19

of the heartlands in the north of

England voted to leave the EU, and

0:45:190:45:24

the problem for Seema is, she loves

the EU more than her constituents

0:45:240:45:32

do.

My problem is whether you will

put their constituents first,

0:45:320:45:40

without jobs first Brexit, and who

was the Chancellor arguing with?

0:45:400:45:47

This is a divided Conservative Party

that is supposed to be leading us

0:45:470:45:51

through this. They are a great risk

to war economy.

We don't need to do

0:45:510:45:59

anything when we speak to these two.

It is a pretty odd world when you

0:45:590:46:05

have Nigel Farage siding with Tony

Blair on the prospect of a second

0:46:050:46:10

referendum.

Poor old Nigel Farage

seemed to feel he hasn't got a voice

0:46:100:46:17

at the moment and his party has

completely disintegrated but he

0:46:170:46:21

raises an important point. It isn't

just him who was raising this issue

0:46:210:46:27

about how people might have a say on

how we move forward and that debate

0:46:270:46:33

is being influenced by how the

government has tried to sideline

0:46:330:46:37

parliament and the public every step

of the way. It's extraordinary that

0:46:370:46:41

on the issue of leaving the EU, how

we get our best deal and make sure

0:46:410:46:48

businesses will not suffer and jobs

and public services will not be at

0:46:480:46:53

risk, we heard today that more

nurses are leaving the NHS than

0:46:530:46:58

joining and uncertainty around the

EU has a big part to play in that.

0:46:580:47:04

Nigel may want to reflect on those

risks.

The important thing is we put

0:47:040:47:09

Nigel Farage out of his misery,

which I have always wanted to do,

0:47:090:47:15

and the Prime Minister said there

would not be a second referendum, M

0:47:150:47:20

expecting a bit of ping-pong with

the House of Lords where they will

0:47:200:47:23

send it back to us and we sent it

back to them, but they are unelected

0:47:230:47:31

peers, the people voted for this,

will be unelected peers have one

0:47:310:47:34

over on the people of Britain?

There

will be debate about genuine

0:47:340:47:40

democracy because the way the

government has handled this made a

0:47:400:47:45

mockery of taking back control. The

issue is about hope we have control

0:47:450:47:50

back in parliament, the amendment I

voted for today that there should be

0:47:500:47:58

evidence of the impact of leaving

the single market and the Customs

0:47:580:48:02

Union, lots of debate and I think

the Lords will take this further.

0:48:020:48:08

Good to see you have both come back

with the same vim and vigour that we

0:48:080:48:13

had last year.

0:48:130:48:15

A former CIA officer has

been arrested in the US,

0:48:150:48:17

where reports say he's suspected

of helping China.

0:48:170:48:19

Jerry Chun Shing Lee worked

for the CIA between 1994 and 2007,

0:48:190:48:22

when he moved to Hong Kong.

0:48:220:48:23

In the years afterwards,

some 20 CIA informants in China

0:48:230:48:26

were either killed or jailed.

0:48:260:48:28

The French government has scrapped

plans to build a major new airport

0:48:280:48:34

for the west of France

near the city of Nantes.

0:48:340:48:36

The proposed airport was going be

based in agricultural land around

0:48:360:48:39

the village of Notre-Dame-des-Landes

and had been approved

0:48:390:48:41

in a local referendum.

0:48:410:48:42

Environmental campaigners had

opposed the scheme but supporters

0:48:420:48:44

say the government has caved

in to the threat of violence.

0:48:440:48:52

Ireland's Taoiseach has been

to the European Parliament

0:48:520:48:54

in Strasbourg where he gave a speech

on the future of Europe.

0:48:540:48:57

Leo Varadkar denied that the EU

was conspiring to reverse the Brexit

0:48:570:49:00

vote and cautioned about interfering

in democracy in other countries.

0:49:000:49:10

I don't think it's anti-democratic

for people to change their mind or

0:49:100:49:15

have a second vote, but any new

referendum question must be one for

0:49:150:49:22

the British people, we shouldn't put

any pressure on them, that would be

0:49:220:49:26

counter-productive.

0:49:260:49:28

The England and Wales Cricket board

has decided Ben Stokes can be

0:49:280:49:31

considered for international

selection

0:49:310:49:32

whilst he waits to be tried

on a charge of affray.

0:49:320:49:35

The all-rounder was charged this

week over an incident outside

0:49:350:49:37

a nightclub in Bristol last year.

0:49:370:49:38

He hasn't played for

England since then.

0:49:380:49:40

This is Beyond 100 Days.

0:49:400:49:41

Still to come - why

the Bayeux Tapestry could leave

0:49:410:49:44

France for the first time in nearly

a thousand years

0:49:440:49:46

and be loaned to Britain.

0:49:460:49:56

Thousands of people who work on

private service projects for

0:50:050:50:09

Carillion have been told they will

continue to be paid. Judith Morris

0:50:090:50:13

reports.

0:50:130:50:18

Brick by brick, floor by floor,

the new £335 million

0:50:180:50:20

Royal Liverpool Hospital has been

taking shape, building

0:50:200:50:22

work ongoing.

0:50:220:50:23

Until this week.

0:50:230:50:24

Since Carillion's collapse,

subcontractors here

0:50:240:50:25

have stopped work.

0:50:250:50:26

Some are owed money and have

downed tools for now.

0:50:260:50:36

Meanwhile, next door at the hospital

it's due to replace,

0:50:360:50:42

there is frustration for staff

who are waiting for the new

0:50:420:50:44

building to be ready.

0:50:440:50:47

But until things are clear,

hospital bosses know it will be

0:50:470:50:49

difficult to get the builders

back to work.

0:50:490:50:51

I would say to contractors,

please come on site,

0:50:510:50:53

you will get paid for the work

you are doing.

0:50:530:50:56

We recognise there is an issue

with the money you are owed,

0:50:560:50:59

but there are guarantees

about future payments.

0:50:590:51:00

We will work with the hospital

company and the receivers to try

0:51:000:51:03

and ensure that there

is some compensation.

0:51:030:51:05

Is there anger about this?

0:51:050:51:07

I wouldn't say it is anger.

0:51:070:51:08

We feel sorry for the staff

and the subcontractors of Carillion.

0:51:080:51:12

It's not anger.

0:51:120:51:12

It's empathy with the situation

they are in, really.

0:51:120:51:15

The old hospital was built

in the 1970s and is showing its age.

0:51:150:51:18

Crumbling concrete

and rusting pipework.

0:51:180:51:21

The new building was privately

financed, but its progress was slow

0:51:210:51:27

for various structural reasons,

and it was cited at the time

0:51:270:51:29

of Carillion's first profit warning.

0:51:290:51:31

The new hospital should have been

completed last March,

0:51:310:51:33

but Carillion missed that deadline.

0:51:330:51:36

And for every month

it was delayed, the company faced

0:51:360:51:39

a bill of £1.5 million.

0:51:390:51:44

Despite the Carillion chaos,

the trust says it is confident that

0:51:440:51:47

work will restart soon.

0:51:470:51:49

Although it can't say

exactly when the city

0:51:490:51:51

will get its new hospital.

0:51:520:52:01

You're watching Beyond 100 Days.

0:52:040:52:06

It's almost a thousand years

old and one of the great historical

0:52:060:52:08

records of the middle ages -

depicting the Norman

0:52:080:52:12

conquest of England.

0:52:120:52:13

But now the Bayeux Tapestry could be

about to leave France

0:52:130:52:15

for the first time in 950 years.

0:52:150:52:24

Yes, it's a good yarn.

0:52:240:52:26

Get it. No?

0:52:260:52:35

The French President,

Emmanuel Macron, is expected

0:52:350:52:39

to announce tomorrow

that the ancient tapestry

0:52:390:52:41

is being loaned to Britain -

0:52:410:52:42

as long as experts agree

that it is safe to move.

0:52:420:52:45

Here's our Paris correspondent

Lucy Williamson.

0:52:450:52:46

If anything puts current

Anglo-French relations

0:52:460:52:48

in context, this is it -

a tapestry from almost a thousand

0:52:480:52:50

years ago describing a very

different kind of summit meeting.

0:52:500:52:53

Now the French President has given

approval for the 50-metre

0:52:530:52:55

Bayeux Tapestry to leave French

territory for the first time.

0:52:550:53:01

But moving something this big

and old is no simple matter.

0:53:010:53:07

It's difficult to imagine how to put

it in a case and showcase it, put it

0:53:070:53:16

in a train.

0:53:160:53:17

No, we don't know.

0:53:170:53:19

President Macron's gesture

highlights France's deep ties

0:53:190:53:21

and long history with Britain,

though cynics might say it also

0:53:210:53:23

highlights a crucial French victory

over its Anglo-Saxon neighbour.

0:53:230:53:27

Art experts say it is a benign

telling of the tale,

0:53:270:53:30

with moments of comedy and artistic

influences from both

0:53:300:53:33

sides of the Channel.

0:53:330:53:35

There's a lot of excitement

from British museums.

0:53:350:53:44

The opportunity to get really close

to the Bayeux Tapestry

0:53:440:53:46

and explore it and look

at it is what's fascinating

0:53:460:53:48

to all of us who have studied

the Bayeux Tapestry.

0:53:480:53:51

The exact location of the tapestry's

famous battle has long been

0:53:510:53:53

in dispute, but in Hastings today

locals said the artwork

0:53:530:53:56

should be displayed there.

0:53:560:54:03

A lot of people in Hastings are

proud of Hastings and if it's

0:54:030:54:07

returning to Hastings, all the

better.

The Battle of Hastings, good

0:54:070:54:13

tourist attraction.

The battle

happened here and there not enough

0:54:130:54:19

displays of what happened in

Hastings so should come here.

0:54:190:54:23

Britain has twice requested

the tapestry on loan, the first time

0:54:230:54:25

for the Queen's Coronation,

but has always been refused.

0:54:250:54:27

This initiative has the backing

of President Macron,

0:54:270:54:29

part of the cultural exchanges

he promised in

0:54:290:54:31

his election campaign.

0:54:310:54:32

But the deep ties with Britain have

often been tinged with rivalry,

0:54:320:54:36

and one French official was joking

today about whether Britain

0:54:360:54:39

would find anything of similar merit

to send them in return.

0:54:390:54:49

I think the Rosetta Stone might be

up there.

Ouch! I love her language,

0:54:530:55:01

that it might be tinged with

rivalry, the French and British

0:55:010:55:04

relationship. One of my favourite

bits of the Bayeux Tapestry, you

0:55:040:55:11

know what it is? Halley's Comet, did

you know that was in there? Halley's

0:55:110:55:17

Comet was visible when they were

serving the tapestry and it makes an

0:55:170:55:20

appearance.

Emmanuel Macron is here

tomorrow, meeting Theresa May, a

0:55:200:55:28

colleague has sent me a cartoon and

there is Theresa May on the left

0:55:280:55:33

saying, there it is, the Bayeux

Tapestry, but this is Mr Macron

0:55:330:55:39

saying no, this is the British bill.

Maybe we could say we will keep the

0:55:390:55:43

tapestry and not hand it back unless

they diminish the bill.

0:55:430:55:53

Ros Atkins is here with

Outside Source and for

0:55:530:55:56

viewers in the UK we'll

have the latest headlines

0:55:560:55:58

from Clive Myrie.

0:55:580:56:03

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