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The European Union has found

more than 3,500 examples

of Russian disinformation.

All geared at destabilising the EU.

And the European parliament says

it's an orchestrated strategy.

According to a new report,

the Russians are spreading fake news

in as many languages

as possible through as many

channels as possible.

Former Presidential advisor

Steve Bannon refused to answer

investigators' questions on Russia.

He says it was the White House

who ordered him not to.

Mr Trump, his promise of fake news

awards may indeed by -- be fake

news.

Charm offensive or a genuine push

for peace - North and South Korea

pledge to compete under one flag

at the Winter Olympics.

And modern-day makeovers?

The app that turns presidents

and prime ministers,

into works of art.

Get in touch with us using the

hashtag 'Beyond-One-Hundred-Days'.

Hello and welcome -

I'm Katty Kay in Washington

and Christian Fraser is in London.

The full scale of pro Kremlin

meddling in European democracies has

been exposed in a report

by the European parliament.

What's more, the report concludes,

that an orchestrated strategy

of disinformation has

been extremely succesful.

The EE's Stratcom East team was set

up in 2015 to counter Russian

interference in news reports.

The task force found 3,500 examples

of pro Moscow disinformation.

They found recent fake news items

include claims that France has

banned Christian symbols and that

Denmark is feeding family

pets to zoo animals.

The EU's findings largely

corroborate a report released

here by Democrats in the Senate

- they found.

That the Kremlin backed

a coup in Montenegro.

And supported right wing groups

in France and Germany.

As well as left wing ones

in Italy and Greece.

The Senate report also concluded

there'd been meddling

in the Brexit referendum

and Catalonian

independence referendum.

And that Putin had ordered

the killing of a number of Russian

opposition figures across Europe.

Not to mention the invasion

of Crimea and Ukraine.

Senator Ben Cardin commissioned that

report and he joined us earlier.

So Senator Cardin, we know

what the Russians have been trying

to do, you detail it in your report.

I guess the question

is if they are trying to cause

disruption in the European Union

or sow doubts about electoral

processes, how successful

have they actually been?

We know Mr Putin has

had some success.

We know that he has caused a slowing

down of Serbia's integration

into Europe because Russian troops

are in Georgia, in Ukraine,

it is much more difficult

to see those countries'

accession into Nato.

We know that Russia was active

in the Brexit referendum.

So we know that they have seen some

success in their operations.

And European countries

have recognised that

and taken precautions.

So in the German election

and the French election we saw

the impact of Russia was much more

minimised because they took steps

to prevent that type of influence.

You detail in the report some

of the things that European

countries are trying to do.

And there are quite

different approaches.

The Germans for example have taken

down some sites and the French might

be about to do the same.

But they have got criticism that

that is close to censorship.

The Czech Republic on the other hand

leave the sites up and hope

that the mainstream media will just

tell people that this is fake news.

Which is a preferable path,

which path works best

in your experience?

We want to see best practice,

I must tell you I think

the all in approach that we have

seen particularly in

the Scandinavian countries

where they really develop

the curriculum for the children

to understand that there is fake

news out there and to watch

for what is accurate

and what is not accurate.

We have seen with cyber defence

which some countries have been

very aggressive on that.

And we should demand

disclosure on internet

advertisements during campaigns.

We should take down those

social media sites that

are clearly foreign dominated, that

are there to try carry out messaging

which is against the interests

of the country.

So I think that there are legitimate

areas where you take best practice

in order to defend ourselves.

Senator, the Swedish government

announced this week it is creating

a new government agency to tackle

Russian and other propaganda.

It is putting money into

intelligence and into cyber defence.

When you compare that to eight

months out from an election,

with what is going on in

the United States ahead

of the midterms at the moment,

it is pretty stark.

You are quite correct.

With the Swedish government,

what it is doing is preparing

for their next elections.

The US, we have been attacked,

we were attacked in 2016.

And yet we have yet to take steps

to protect our election process

in 2018 from the president

of the United States.

We should have an interagency fusion

operation to get an all in approach

to defend our country.

President Trump has

failed to do that.

Senator Cardin, thank

you very much for joining us

amid the singalong in the Senate!

I should just explain that he was in

the Rotunda, a building where all

the senators have their offices.

Anyone can go in and today we had a

group supporting those young people

who could be deported onto the Dream

act. That is democracy! Latvia is on

the border with Russia. I read in

that report that for every tweet

sent in Russian, five are sent by

Russian bots. It is a five in one

ratio. Sweden also saying it has

interference already in its election

so this is a big problem in Europe.

One of the items of fake news I

picked up in that European

Parliament report, one item is

saying that Sweden is about to

introduce a law demanding written

consent before you have sex. Not

quite sure who believes that but I'm

afraid some people do.

Jeff Flake

was on the floor of the Senate today

talking about many things and he

talked about Russian interference as

well and made the point that there

has only been one cabinet meeting,

he has only brought his Cabinet

secretaries together, not even once,

to discuss this. And Senator Carden

said that that was negligent.

And

Republicans I think would also say

more has to be done. And why is the

president not taking this as

seriously as you might expect given

that America was attacked by Russian

disinformation during the 2016

elections.

Former White House advisor

Steve Bannon went before

a congressional committee

on the Russia investigation

yesterday and refused

to answer questions.

He says the White House

ordered him not to.

Democrats on the committee say

Mr Bannon was effectively gagged

by the Trump administration.

But this may not be the last time

we hear from Mr Bannon on the issue

of whether the Trump campaign

colluded with Moscow

to win the 2016 election.

American press reports say he has

been subpoenaed by special

counsel Robert Mueller -

that would make him the first member

of the President's inner circle

to receive a grand jury subpoena

from the Mueller probe.

Our North America Reporter

Anthony Zurcher is with us.

Steve Bannon is called before the

congressional committee and he goes

voluntarily, he gets there and ask a

question and he just gets on the

phone to the White House?

Apparently

his lawyer was in communication with

the White House at the time he was

sitting in this interview with the

committee. He was claiming executive

privilege, maybe not directly, the

White House saying while you are

with the president, working in the

White House, apparently on the

transition team as well in the lead

up to the inauguration of Donald

Trump, that you cannot divulge to

Congress what kind of advice you are

giving the president. That the

president is entitled to a candid

advice from his advisers. This is a

privilege going all the way back to

Richard Nixon.

Does it suggest that

Steve Bannon might have told things

to that committee that could have

made the White House nervous.

It

certainly seemed that way. What we

heard from the Michael Wolff book,

is Steve Bannon thinks Donald Trump

Junior and Jared Kushner and Paul

Manafort had a meeting with Russians

during the campaign which was

treasonous or unpatriotic. He may

also think there are other problems

with for example money-laundering.

So those are all things he could

have talked about. Although it seems

like a lot of the investigations of

Robert Mueller is looking at the

firing of James Comey and any

possible obstruction of justice.

I

will never submit you to a 10-hour

congressional hearing on Russia,

Christian!

Ten hours in front of a

Senate committee and not answer any

of their questions. It is

remarkable. In a way I suppose it

was a test of his loyalty yesterday.

The Democrats probably thought he

would spill the beans.

That could

have been the case and Republicans

and Democrats were upset about this,

their separation of power concerns

and Congress has the right to

investigate the presidency and

possible misdeeds as part of the

hearing. What is more interesting,

news reports that Steve Bannon is

willing to talk with Mueller about

anything and everything, no

executive privilege concerns with

that kind of interview. And media

reports today that that will be not

an official grand jury testimony any

more, there was a subpeona issued

yesterday by beverage some agreement

whereby Steve Bannon will fit with

the prosecutors and talk with them

in much less formal and much less

under the glare of the spotlight

kind of procedure. That is what

other people do from the Trump in a

circle, Sean Spicer for example.

They all had this less than formal

interview process.

Thank you very

much. I guess the question if he

does not answer questions

satisfactorily in the informal chat

situation then does the subpeona

rear its head again. Clearly Steve

Bannon is central to this. And

someone these investigators really

want to speak to because he spent so

much time with the president.

Well

we have the deputy chief of staff,

and former campaign manager on the

Trump campaign today, both before

the house. And later in the week we

have the communications director,

very much in the loop. But the White

House saying we want to get this

finished as quickly as possible but

on the other hand telling them all

but they're bound by executive

privilege. So not really helping to

bring it to a speedy conclusion.

I

think the White House has said they

hope it will wrap up soon but no

indication here that it is actually

going to be done any time before the

summer when Paul Manafort goes to

trial.

A senior Republican took

to the floor of the Senate today

and compared President Trump

to the Soviet dictator

Joseph Stalin.

But the main criticism

in Jeff Flake's speech

was reserved for his party,

for standing by as Mr Trump

assaults the American media.

The Senator is free

to speak his mind because he

is retiring this year.

But there are other Republicans

who share the opinion,

that by classifying the news media

as "the enemy of the people",

Mr Trump not only endangers

journalists around the world -

he also sets a poor

example for countries

led by authoritarians and dictators.

The enemy of the people was how the

president of States called the free

press in 2017. Mr President it is a

testament to the condition of our

democracy that our own president

uses words infamously spoken by

Justice talent to describe his

enemies.

And in an opinion piece in

the Washington Post yesterday,

Senator John McCain also called on

the president to stop attacking the

news media and encouraged Congress

to embrace a free press in ways that

Donald Trump does not seem too.

Whether Trump knows it or not,

these efforts are being closely

watched by foreign leaders

who are already using his words

as cover as they silence and shutter

one of the key pillars of democracy.

So said John McCain. He went on to

make the point that some people,

journalists have been arrested

around the world in the last year

under the premise of fake news. And

that term has started to spread and

authoritarians are using it. That

speech from Jeff Flake was designed

to coincide with the Donald Trump

fake news awards. He said that they

would go to the most corrupt and

biased of the mainstream media and

would presented on January 17. The

interest in these rewards is far

greater than anyone could have

anticipated. But when asked when the

rewards were absent from schedule

today the press secretary told White

House reporters that they were only

a potential event. So are the fake

news awards in fact fake news?

Last night on his show

Jimmy Fallon gave us his take

on what the awards could look like.

The first annual fake news awards.

Your host, President Donald J Trump.

Biggest loser. Welcome to the fake

news awards which are totally real

unlike the really fake news which is

fake and not real. This is the first

annual fake news awards.

And the

winner, have a guess. CNN. They were

actually the only nominee. And the

failing New York Times!

The whole of

the Washington press corps has been

in a campaign amongst itself to see

who was going to be able to claim

the honour of actually getting the

fake news award. No one wanted to be

left off the list.

North and South Korea have agreed

to march together under a single

"unified Korea" flag at next month's

Winter Olympics in the South.

They also agreed to field a joint

women's ice hockey team

after rare talks at the truce

village of Panmunjom.

These are the first high-level talks

between the two Koreas

in more than two years.

The Games will begin on 9 February

in Pyeongchang in South Korea.

So is diplomacy working or are we

moving towards some kind of

conflict? Admiral Mike Mullen joined

me earlier, a former leader of the

US forces. There is a meeting going

on in Vancouver where they are

trying to talk about what to do on

the Korean peninsula. How real do

think the possibility is of military

conflict with North Korea?

I

certainly hope it never occurs

although I am increasingly concerned

about that possibility. And

encouraged about the discussions

between the north and south although

at this point it is just a baby step

and I take no comfort in that. A

long way to go to see that proved

fruitful. And encouraged by the

meeting in Vancouver, 14 countries

whose leaders are focused on this

and I think that is tremendously

representative of what needs to

happen. But until I see actual

movement with respect to the real

issue of nuclear weapons I remain

increasingly concerned.

In terms of

the sweep of history over the past

ten or 15 years to think we're

closer than we have been before?

I

think there is no question that we

are. And we see that in the

readiness levels that both the

United States has and our allies are

working on as well, the increased

focus certainly the actions that

have been taken by Kim Jong Un. I do

not see anything moving in the right

direction so I think we're closer

than we have been in decades in

terms of potential conflict breaking

out on that peninsula.

I want to ask

about the White House and American

engagement in diplomatic processes

and whether it is North Korea or

sanctions in Iran or trade, there

seems to be some kind of containing

influence around the president and

his instincts from generals who you

know well. Which is winning out, the

president and his gut as he likes to

call it order restraining influence

of the generals?

So far secretary

Tillerson and James Mattis have

spoken clearly about the need to get

to a diplomatic solution in North

Korea. So I'm somewhat optimistic

that their influence and their

counsel to the president is being

listened to. I do not think we have

had the debate we need to have in

this country about the use of

nuclear weapons. I think that we

almost talk about it somewhat in a

cavalier fashion in terms of just

another level of combat. They are

the most devastating weapons on

earth. And so all efforts to press

this to a solution that does not

involve combat and the potential for

nuclear war must be expanded.

When

your joint Chief of staff you must

have worked with leaders of many

many African nations particularly in

terms of extremist groups what you

make of the recent derogatory

comments made by the president about

Africa?

One thing that is obvious

working in this field is that

countries around the world both as

the nation itself as well as

individuals who lead them, they want

to be treated with respect. We need

friends and allies. And so

describing countries as they did, I

do not think you get anywhere in

terms of where we can go down the

road with respect to that

relationship or in the global

community. So I hope that this ends

very quickly though I think a lot of

damage has been done.

The president

has been in office for almost one

year, what impact has he had on

America and its standing in the

world?

Many people are still trying

to figure out where we are going as

a country and certainly the

president as the leader of our

country and the free world is

creating a lot of that uncertainty.

I worry about the debates in

Washington quite frankly,

undermining the values that are so

important to us as a country and

while we may not see the impact

immediately, I worry about the

erosion that takes place of who we

are in terms of equality and freedom

and democracy. And bringing all of

that very much into question.

Thank

you for joining me. He has always

been seen as one of the sober voices

in American national security and to

hear him saying that we're closer

than ever to some kind of conflict

with North Korea and that Americans

just have not had a conversation

about what that means, that he feels

that the country is underestimating

the awfulness of what a nuclear war

right look like. I thought that that

was very striking and quite

alarming.

And he was also saying

about the battle against extremists

in areas of Africa where regional

leaders must pool intelligence from

factions about who is working in

their midst and it becomes much more

difficult when they think it is the

whites first policy rather than

America first, interesting to get

his thoughts on that.

Well former White House

communications director Anthony

Scaramucci is ready for a comeback.

The Former White House

Communications Director Anthony

Scaramucci has said Donald Trump

is sure to win another

election by a landslide.

He's going to get re-

elected and it'll probably be

a landslide re election.

The way the American poilitical

system works it's almost impossible

to defeat a sitting president

unless you have a calamitous

situation like a depression.

You just agreed with me

that his standing now with American

public is at an historic low?

I didn't say historic low I said

he was roughly at the same approval

rating that Obama had.

What universe are you living on?

I'm living in the same universe

you are on and that's why

I want to get invited back

when he wins and we'll be popping

champagne together, you and I, OK?

He's gonna win re-election

because he's got the right policies

for the American people.

Today I was reading and I had to

remind myself in this extraordinary

first year of President Trump, he

lasted just six days in the job.

That quirky period in the summer

where he breezed in and bruised out

just as quickly.

That was the period

when I had to censor my reading of

news reports for my mother because

the language coming out of the White

House was obscene, and aren't not

for her to hear. But he is right

that there is still a reasonable

chance that he could win the

election and still many of the Trump

supporters say we do not like his

tweets but basically he's doing a

good job for the country and we are

still behind him.

And more of that

interview on the BBC website.

Now if you've ever wanted to know

who your fine art doppelganger is -

a new app has the answer.

Yeah - this is a new feature

of the Google Arts & Culture app.

It trawls tens of thousands

of portraits from museums

and galleries around the world

to find the face that best

matches any portrait.

Let's take a spin through our

world leaders to see

who they're paired with.

Starting out with Donald Trump -

he's got a 69% match rating

with this sketch by William Owen,

called 'portrait of a man'.

Up next it's the British prime

minister Theresa May -

she's drawn similarities

with Victorio C Edades 'mother and

Daughter' painting.

And then there's German

Chancellor Angela Merkel.

She's 60% like Umberto Moggioli's

'Testa di fanciulla'.

Now you said I was not an oil

painting but I share alike says of

52% with Sir Walter Scott. A rather

fitting resemblance.

What is the

other 48%?

I think we are quite

alike. You are 44% Voulgari. I have

been having a look. You will be

relieved to know that she was high

society in Greece in the 19th

century and in fact a member of the

Royal Court in the years after Greek

independence. And she's holding a

very fine fan and wearing a ruby

ring. Not a bad person to be twinned

with.

I think that that is quite

fitting. And for all the viewers,

you can run through this app

yourself. Or you can in America. I

ran it through and I got three male

portraits but then I got make-up on

and I got FEMA matches. So Google,

get with the programme.

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He has been described as a hologram

president, if elected can Carles

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self imposed exile? And plans to

move the Bay you have a street to

the UK from France. All still to

come. -- the Bayeux Tapestry.

the UK from France. All still to

come. -- the Bayeux Tapestry.

It is rarely a good thing when the

weather is making the news. Some of

us have been seeing a lot of snow.

More on the way for some, a

deepening area of low pressure

coming in from the Atlantic. Further

south it is rain and wind. On the

northern flank wind and snow and

especially parts of southern

Scotland and northern England. So

some higher accumulations overnight.

And so we have an amber warning in

force here. Some rain and snow

moving across Northern Ireland

through the evening. Lingering

through southern Scotland. Up to 20

centimetres of fresh snow here. To

the south we have rain and gale is

as well. Some big waves around

western coasts. And going into

tomorrow morning, the bulk of the

weather system has cleared away but

there will be after effects and the

risk of some disruption for the rush

hour. It is icy across untreated

surfaces in Scotland, Northern

Ireland. Overnight rain, sleet and

snow pulling away from northern

England but again I see in places.

And further rain and hail showers in

the north-west of England and into

the Midlands. A blustery start

across southern areas. Some showers

dotted around. But for many across

the eastern side of the UK we have

gales to begin with but what follows

will be largely dry. But the showers

continue into the north-west, North

Wales and north-west England. And

increasingly snow to lower levels as

we go through the day. The wind

easing a bit but it is a chilly

north-westerly wind. And feeling

again below freezing. A similar

weather pattern going into Friday,

some sunny spells but across the

north-west of the UK especially

further sleet and snow showers to be

had. A lot quieter as the weekend

begins. Sunny spells and fewer

showers. And another weather system

coming in for Sunday. Many of us

will get rain from that bad again

the risk of some snow further north.

This is Beyond 100 Days, with me,

Katty Kay in Washington.

Christian Fraser's in London.

Our top stories...

A new US senate report says

the Russians are spreading fake news

in as many languages as possible

through as many

channels as possible.

As foreign ministers meet

in Vancouver to discuss North Korea,

a former top US military officer

tells us we aren't having

the debate we should

about the use of nuclear weapons.

I think we almost talk our bloated

somewhat cavalierly in our way of

just another comeback. They aren't

the most devastating weapons on

earth -- we almost talk about it

cavalierly.

A year on since Aleppo

was recaptured from rebel forces

we return to see how the ancient

city has changed.

Weaving its way across the Channel,

the Bayeux tapestry is set to leave

France for the first time

in 950 years.

Let us know your thoughts

by using the hashtag

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The Catalan parliament

is meeting for the first time

since it was dissolved

by the Spanish government -

in response to the unilateral

declaration of independence

in October.

Members of parliament will now

nominate a new president.

The Spanish Prime Minister Mariano

Rajoy is warning the former leader

Carles Puigdemont not to try to run

Catalonia from his self-imposed

exile in Belgium -

warning that if he is chosen

as President, Madrid will retain

control of the autonomous region.

Gavin Lee is in Barcelona for us.

The three separatist parties have

the absolute majority in parliament.

Do they see eye to eye and will they

elect Carles Puigdemont as president

again?

No and yes, in short. They

don't see eye to eye, what parties

do? The on the right and on the

left, you have the key parties for

independents here, and the

Democratic Catalonian party, Carles

Puigdemont's party. They have 70 out

of 135 seats in parliament so they

have a majority, they need 68 seats

but they need that coalition. Today

they elected a speaker of the house

who was a separatist, and it is his

job to elect the next president

within ten working days. From

talking to all sides, that will be

Carles Puigdemont and people talk

about the hologram president because

he is 800 miles away and if he steps

into space he will be arrested for

sedition. His supporters say he

won't come here they he can govern

from Skype or Twitter.

Are we

getting any closer to the story

being resolved? It never seems to

get closer to a resolution.

You're

watching this from afar, imagine

living through it. It is three

months since the Catalan parliament

was dissolved by the Spanish

government, it is affecting the

region, according to the Economy

Minister, it's costing about 1

billion euros to the contrary. We

are starting to get a political

route through the crisis, if not a

resolution, to see where it's

playing out in the next two weeks

because if Carles Puigdemont is put

forward again as president, the

Spanish government says emergency

rule will remain unless he comes

here and he is not going to. Those

on both sides acknowledge that a

constitutional court could suspend

the parliament again so for those

hoping for a quick resolution, it

doesn't look clear that that will

happen.

Gavin Lee, clearly going to

take up residence in Barcelona, not

a bad place to be.

The final battles for Aleppo

were being fought a little

more than a year ago.

Now, both the west and what was once

the rebel-held east are now

firmly back in the control

of President Assad's government.

Our chief international

correspondent, Lyse Doucet,

was in the ancient city in the last

days of the fighting

there and is back there now to take

us through what's changed.

Dawn holds little fear now

for the city of Aleppo.

Gone are the warplanes,

at least from here, and a

train now runs from east to west.

Aleppo is back in government hands.

Its tallest building

leaves you in no doubt.

Nor do the songs schoolchildren

sing in praise of their president.

In the area once held by rebels.

A daily rhythm returns

for 12-year-old Rahan.

Her school was

controlled by hardline

Islamist groups.

TRANSLATION:

I didn't go

to school during the war

because of the shelling

and there were armed

men in the building.

We didn't learn anything at all.

This is what we saw

here in the last days

of battle, the smell of explosives

still in the air, buildings

flattened by Syrian air strikes.

Now safe enough for people

to start coming back.

Umm Halil is one of the first

on her street to bring her

family home.

Like many others she's returning

from a government area to

this small flat with no

electricity, no running water.

TRANSLATION:

It was so hard

to see the damage.

We are rebuilding bit by bit.

We are rebuilding bit by bit

whenever we earn a little money.

Her husband's face says it all.

The life he knew is gone -

that they all knew.

Life is slowly returning

to the streets.

You see the signs of it everywhere.

But the destruction

here is overwhelming.

With time, money, some

of this will be rebuilt

but so many lives have been

shattered too, and

possibly beyond repair.

This is all that's left of

the industrial zone

at the edge of the city,

once Syria's economic heartland.

There's still fighting here,

the front line only a few

hundred metres alone.

This factory was damaged

and looted by rebel forces.

My family's life is destroyed.

It's terrible.

All the factories here were more

than 1000 - all except

a very few still lie silent.

It will take many billions

to rebuild Syria.

How can a broken country do that?

It takes a lot of

money but as we must say,

we need all the countries

to release the sanctions.

You want the sanctions

lifted on Syria?

Yes.

The West says that won't happen

until the war is over.

Now we are going to finish it.

We are going to finish it.

The end of battle in this ancient

city turned the tide of war

in President Assad's favour.

One year on, it's not over yet.

So many lost so much,

this great city

may never be the same.

You wander amid all that devastation

and the war of attrition, hope

people who oppose President Assad

will ever accept him as their

president. It still has some way to

run.

Awful to see one of the great

cities of the Middle East

disintegrated like that.

Should the UK hold a second Brexit

referendum? Nigel Farage suggested

it may be unavoidable and

Jean-Claude Yunker said he would be

happy to help the UK rejoined the EU

if he wants to.

But Theresa May has

ruled it out, so all eyes on round

two of the negotiation which begins

in March. The EU is keen to know

what kind of future relationship the

UK once and plenty of labour

supporters would like to know where

their party stands. Here's the

Shadow Minister explaining.

I get a bit irritated

when you say it's not clear

because it is very clear,

what it isn't is a yes-no answer

but I do think people are capable

of getting their heads around this.

We're saying we want the benefits

of the single market

but we are uneasy about accepting

all of the...

Hang on a minute, this

doesn't sound clear.

We want the benefits

of the single market.

Our constituents have said to us

clearly in voting to leave

that there are aspects of membership

they are not content

to continue with so that's why

it is a negotiation and you cannot

just continue to be in the single

market and the Customs Union

and accept all the strings attached

to that and say to constituents,

we have delivered Brexit,

because they will not accept that.

To help us unpick some of that let's

turn to our regular contributors

on Beyond 100 Days -

the Labour MP and member

of the Brexit Select

Committee, Seema Malhotra,

and the Conservative

Party's Nigel Evans,

who is also a member

of the International Trade Select

Committee.

We have perhaps picked, unfairly, on

the shadow Brexit Secretary, the EU

says the UK cannot have its cake and

eat it, you are either in the single

market for you or not, so why does

labour think there is a third way?

I

have laid out my own view since the

day after the referendum, my view is

that we have to find our way to

where we keep the best of our

relationship with the EU, and that

requires greater flexibility around

the freedom of movement rolls,

greater controls for a nation states

if they wish. That might mean you

have a sector -based approach or

some other approach to immigration

but there is a fair system that

gives back control people have lost,

I didn't think that's incompatible

with being in the single market,

there is a debate about whether the

four freedoms artfully indivisible,

that we have to be clear about what

will be right for the economy and if

I can say something about Nigel's

party, the idea that Theresa May has

any clarity about what the forward

vision looks like of life after we

leave the EU, we haven't heard it in

parliament yet.

No, we haven't,

Nigel!

Happy new year. We just had

the third reading so it goes from

one bit of Parliament to the Lords,

so that is where the next battle

will now take place.

For months.

It

will be interesting to see what

people like Lord and Jonas and

Michael has a fine, who both feel

the British people got it wrong and

we should not leave the EU, so they

should scrutinise the legislation.

How can you be so cavalier with the

affections of Donald Tusk, who says

his heart is open, let's come back,

how can you throw that back in his

face?

For all Donald Tusk, I

appreciate why he doesn't understand

democracy because he hasn't really

been elected to a proper presidency,

he has just been elected by the

country's' prime ministers and

governments, so we understand why he

doesn't really understand why we

have had the biggest festival of

democracy this country has ever

seen, the British people had our

binary question and they decided out

and that is what we will deliver.

Nigel has sidestepped all the issues

we have been debating, all the

issues of parliamentary sovereignty

and how to manage transition and the

legal basis for trade in just over a

year for all the sectors in the

economy, on whether ministers can

roll back legislation on equality.

Let me just jump in without

question.

Politicians on both sides

said the debate was about whether we

leave the EU, it wasn't about how we

leave, and Nigel has to

understand...

Quickly, we will leave

quickly.

We can all agree there are

divisions in both your parties but

what do you think, and Nigel let me

start with this idea about the IDF

list by Nigel Farage of a second

referendum. It was so much fun first

time around.

This was all about

reviving the popularity of Nigel

Farage, and giving him more

publicity. I likened him to a fruit

machine in the corner of our pub and

if nobody plays it for ten minutes

it makes an irritating noise. If I

see him, I will tell him that. The

Prime Minister has ruled out a

second referendum, on the back of

that propaganda pamphlet that David

Cameron sent to every household, it

said we will follow the wishes of

the British people, and that is the

problem for the Labour Party, a lot

of the heartlands in the north of

England voted to leave the EU, and

the problem for Seema is, she loves

the EU more than her constituents

do.

My problem is whether you will

put their constituents first,

without jobs first Brexit, and who

was the Chancellor arguing with?

This is a divided Conservative Party

that is supposed to be leading us

through this. They are a great risk

to war economy.

We don't need to do

anything when we speak to these two.

It is a pretty odd world when you

have Nigel Farage siding with Tony

Blair on the prospect of a second

referendum.

Poor old Nigel Farage

seemed to feel he hasn't got a voice

at the moment and his party has

completely disintegrated but he

raises an important point. It isn't

just him who was raising this issue

about how people might have a say on

how we move forward and that debate

is being influenced by how the

government has tried to sideline

parliament and the public every step

of the way. It's extraordinary that

on the issue of leaving the EU, how

we get our best deal and make sure

businesses will not suffer and jobs

and public services will not be at

risk, we heard today that more

nurses are leaving the NHS than

joining and uncertainty around the

EU has a big part to play in that.

Nigel may want to reflect on those

risks.

The important thing is we put

Nigel Farage out of his misery,

which I have always wanted to do,

and the Prime Minister said there

would not be a second referendum, M

expecting a bit of ping-pong with

the House of Lords where they will

send it back to us and we sent it

back to them, but they are unelected

peers, the people voted for this,

will be unelected peers have one

over on the people of Britain?

There

will be debate about genuine

democracy because the way the

government has handled this made a

mockery of taking back control. The

issue is about hope we have control

back in parliament, the amendment I

voted for today that there should be

evidence of the impact of leaving

the single market and the Customs

Union, lots of debate and I think

the Lords will take this further.

Good to see you have both come back

with the same vim and vigour that we

had last year.

A former CIA officer has

been arrested in the US,

where reports say he's suspected

of helping China.

Jerry Chun Shing Lee worked

for the CIA between 1994 and 2007,

when he moved to Hong Kong.

In the years afterwards,

some 20 CIA informants in China

were either killed or jailed.

The French government has scrapped

plans to build a major new airport

for the west of France

near the city of Nantes.

The proposed airport was going be

based in agricultural land around

the village of Notre-Dame-des-Landes

and had been approved

in a local referendum.

Environmental campaigners had

opposed the scheme but supporters

say the government has caved

in to the threat of violence.

Ireland's Taoiseach has been

to the European Parliament

in Strasbourg where he gave a speech

on the future of Europe.

Leo Varadkar denied that the EU

was conspiring to reverse the Brexit

vote and cautioned about interfering

in democracy in other countries.

I don't think it's anti-democratic

for people to change their mind or

have a second vote, but any new

referendum question must be one for

the British people, we shouldn't put

any pressure on them, that would be

counter-productive.

The England and Wales Cricket board

has decided Ben Stokes can be

considered for international

selection

whilst he waits to be tried

on a charge of affray.

The all-rounder was charged this

week over an incident outside

a nightclub in Bristol last year.

He hasn't played for

England since then.

This is Beyond 100 Days.

Still to come - why

the Bayeux Tapestry could leave

France for the first time in nearly

a thousand years

and be loaned to Britain.

Thousands of people who work on

private service projects for

Carillion have been told they will

continue to be paid. Judith Morris

reports.

Brick by brick, floor by floor,

the new £335 million

Royal Liverpool Hospital has been

taking shape, building

work ongoing.

Until this week.

Since Carillion's collapse,

subcontractors here

have stopped work.

Some are owed money and have

downed tools for now.

Meanwhile, next door at the hospital

it's due to replace,

there is frustration for staff

who are waiting for the new

building to be ready.

But until things are clear,

hospital bosses know it will be

difficult to get the builders

back to work.

I would say to contractors,

please come on site,

you will get paid for the work

you are doing.

We recognise there is an issue

with the money you are owed,

but there are guarantees

about future payments.

We will work with the hospital

company and the receivers to try

and ensure that there

is some compensation.

Is there anger about this?

I wouldn't say it is anger.

We feel sorry for the staff

and the subcontractors of Carillion.

It's not anger.

It's empathy with the situation

they are in, really.

The old hospital was built

in the 1970s and is showing its age.

Crumbling concrete

and rusting pipework.

The new building was privately

financed, but its progress was slow

for various structural reasons,

and it was cited at the time

of Carillion's first profit warning.

The new hospital should have been

completed last March,

but Carillion missed that deadline.

And for every month

it was delayed, the company faced

a bill of £1.5 million.

Despite the Carillion chaos,

the trust says it is confident that

work will restart soon.

Although it can't say

exactly when the city

will get its new hospital.

You're watching Beyond 100 Days.

It's almost a thousand years

old and one of the great historical

records of the middle ages -

depicting the Norman

conquest of England.

But now the Bayeux Tapestry could be

about to leave France

for the first time in 950 years.

Yes, it's a good yarn.

Get it. No?

The French President,

Emmanuel Macron, is expected

to announce tomorrow

that the ancient tapestry

is being loaned to Britain -

as long as experts agree

that it is safe to move.

Here's our Paris correspondent

Lucy Williamson.

If anything puts current

Anglo-French relations

in context, this is it -

a tapestry from almost a thousand

years ago describing a very

different kind of summit meeting.

Now the French President has given

approval for the 50-metre

Bayeux Tapestry to leave French

territory for the first time.

But moving something this big

and old is no simple matter.

It's difficult to imagine how to put

it in a case and showcase it, put it

in a train.

No, we don't know.

President Macron's gesture

highlights France's deep ties

and long history with Britain,

though cynics might say it also

highlights a crucial French victory

over its Anglo-Saxon neighbour.

Art experts say it is a benign

telling of the tale,

with moments of comedy and artistic

influences from both

sides of the Channel.

There's a lot of excitement

from British museums.

The opportunity to get really close

to the Bayeux Tapestry

and explore it and look

at it is what's fascinating

to all of us who have studied

the Bayeux Tapestry.

The exact location of the tapestry's

famous battle has long been

in dispute, but in Hastings today

locals said the artwork

should be displayed there.

A lot of people in Hastings are

proud of Hastings and if it's

returning to Hastings, all the

better.

The Battle of Hastings, good

tourist attraction.

The battle

happened here and there not enough

displays of what happened in

Hastings so should come here.

Britain has twice requested

the tapestry on loan, the first time

for the Queen's Coronation,

but has always been refused.

This initiative has the backing

of President Macron,

part of the cultural exchanges

he promised in

his election campaign.

But the deep ties with Britain have

often been tinged with rivalry,

and one French official was joking

today about whether Britain

would find anything of similar merit

to send them in return.

I think the Rosetta Stone might be

up there.

Ouch! I love her language,

that it might be tinged with

rivalry, the French and British

relationship. One of my favourite

bits of the Bayeux Tapestry, you

know what it is? Halley's Comet, did

you know that was in there? Halley's

Comet was visible when they were

serving the tapestry and it makes an

appearance.

Emmanuel Macron is here

tomorrow, meeting Theresa May, a

colleague has sent me a cartoon and

there is Theresa May on the left

saying, there it is, the Bayeux

Tapestry, but this is Mr Macron

saying no, this is the British bill.

Maybe we could say we will keep the

tapestry and not hand it back unless

they diminish the bill.

Ros Atkins is here with

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