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Beyond One Hundred Days.

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Mr Trump

weighs in on healthcare,

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Britain's health care,

and gets an angry response.

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It is of course not the first time

the American President has tweeted

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something that has

annoyed his British ally.

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Mr Trump said

the British system was broken

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after a demonstration in London

called for more funding for the NHS.

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Democrats push for the

release of intelligence

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to counter claims the FBI is biased

against Mr Trump

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Also on the programme...

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The EU's chief negotiator

arrives in London to tell

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Britain it faces 'unavoidable'

trade barriers if it leaves

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the customs union after Brexit.

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And "One of these nights" -

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The Eagles finally have the silver.

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Superbowl 52

belongs to Philadelphia.

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Get in touch with us

using the hashtag

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#Beyond100Days

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Hello and welcome -

I'm Katty Kay in Washington

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and Christian Fraser is in London.

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President Trump is developing

a habit of criticising

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one of America's closest allies.

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He did it again today when he took

on Britain's popular

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national health service -

and drew a swift, fierce

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reaction from angry Brits.

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The health minister,

Jeremy Hunt was not happy

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when Mr Trump suggested the famed

NHS is broken.

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As America struggles to develop

a satisfactory private

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health care system of its own,

the UK model of public health care

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for everybody is often held up

as a counter example.

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Many Americans find it hard

to believe that Brits

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of all political persuasions

will defend the public health system

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- just as Brits find it hard

to believe Americans would tolerate

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having so many people

with no health insurance.

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It's another sign of the tensions in

the so-called special relationship.

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Our political

correspondent Alex Forsyth

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is in Westminster for us.

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Mr Trump has done it again. How much

concern has he caused amongst

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America's closest ally?

Not the

first time he has commented on

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something to do with the British

government policy on social media.

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There was something of a backlash.

You had people uniting from across

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the political spectrum to defend the

NHS in light of President Trump's

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comments. Jeremy Corbyn, the

opposition leader said Mr Trump was

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wrong to treat his opposition to the

NHS. Many people made the point that

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the demonstrators were supporting

the NHS and calling for more funding

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for it. Jeremy Hunt the health

minister responded with a critique

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of US health policy. Unity from the

UK criticising Donald Trump's

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intervention. The Prime Minister

Theresa May was asked about this

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today and made the point that there

is a good relationship between the

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US and the UK, nonetheless it is

fair to say that Donald Trump is

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testing diplomatic relationships.

He

has fundamentally misunderstood that

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across the political spectrum, they

like the system. They don't want to

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get rid of the NHS, they want more

funding. He is right that there is a

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funding debate but they don't want

it replaced.

Quite right. Every

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political party in the UK has been

Claire about its commitment to the

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NHS. There is no doubt about that.

It is a celebrated part of the UK

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Government policy. The origin of the

tweet is that Nigel Farage, a former

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leader of Ukip, he appeared on US

television shortly before President

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Trump sent this to eat and was

talking about the NHS. In

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particular, the pressure it's under

as a result of immigration. Shortly

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after, we have this tweet from

Donald Trump. We can't say for sure

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that he was influenced by the

appearance of Nigel Farage on US

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television but some people are

attributing that to this tweet. He

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seems to be missing the point about

the NHS when it comes to British

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policy because every party is wholly

supported of it despite the

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differences over whether there is

enough funding and how it should be

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run. There is cross-party support

for it and we saw exactly that in

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the response to Donald Trump's

tweet.

We know that the president

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likes to watch Fox and friends and

there is more evidence of it there.

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They were marching to protect the

NHS on Saturday, not to replace it

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with a privatised system.

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Let's just take a look

at some of the stats.

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According to the World

Health Organisation -

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the UK ranks number 18 out of 191

countries when it comes to health

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system performance -

termed here as 'efficiency'.

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Compare that to the US -

and they are lower down the list,

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weighing in at number 37.

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This graph is from the Commonwealth

fund showing health-care spending as

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a percentage of GDP. That's most of

the European countries on the

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bottom. Canada and Australia might

be there as well. The one on the

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top, showing the gap in spending is

the United States. This is a very

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interesting debate that Donald Trump

has weighed in on. Whenever you

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raise the prospect of having

something like the British system in

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America, people cry fear of

socialism and that they could never

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possibly do this. They like to

protect their privatised health care

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system. But when you look at those

rankings particularly on the quality

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of care, the United States comes up

one place behind Costa Rica and one

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above Cuba. I'm not sure how many

Americans realise how badly their

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health care system ranks compared to

other countries. How badly their

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health care system ranks compared to

other countries. Hammy times can

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Donald Trump criticise the United

Kingdom whether it is over the

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Manchester bombings, the Britain

first videos and other things before

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the Prime Minister can say that the

special relationship has been

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affected. The bottom line is don't

involve yourself in other country's

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political problems. I don't suppose

it will be the last time he does it.

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Democrats are pushing

to release their version of how

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the FBI investigated the Trump

campaign's ties to Russia.

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It's the latest move in

a tit for tat over intelligence.

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Here's how we got here.

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On Friday, Republicans released

a memo accusing the FBI

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of bias in its investigations

into Donald Trump's

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presidential campaign.

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Mr Trump reacted to

the document on Saturday,

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tweeting: This memo totally

vindicates "Trump" in probe.

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But the Russian Witch

Hunt goes on and on.

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Their was no Collusion

and there was no Obstruction

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But then on Sunday, one

of the Republican authors

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who helped draft the memo appeared

to contradict Mr Trump -

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saying its release has no impact

on the Russia probe.

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I am on record as saying

I support Bob Mueller 100%.

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I think you would have a Russian...

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Look, Russia tried to interfere

with our election in 2016.

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With or without a dossier.

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You need an investigation

into Russia.

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Here to help us make sense

of the whole saga is

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the Washington Post's Intelligence

and national security

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correspondent, Shane Harris.

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The next stage in this row is the

democratic rebuttal to this memo and

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the president must decide within

five days whether he is happy for

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the house committee to release it.

It will be difficult for him if they

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can't release it. What will the

justification for that be? The

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Republicans released over very vocal

objections from the FBI and the

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intelligence community within Donald

Trump's administration. He would be

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in a pickle if he tried to block the

Democrats from releasing the memo.

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The Republicans have released their

memo, assuming the Democrats will,

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do you think the concept of either

will have changed a single mind in

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the United States about whether the

FBI was biased in favour of Donald

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Trump or not?

I don't think so.

People have pretty firm opinions on

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that question before this Republican

memo came out. It probably

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reinforced many people's thoughts

who already thought the FBI was

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somehow biased and for those who saw

no bias, it will reinforce that was

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right. It didn't offer any new

information or compelling evidence.

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I don't know what the Democrat memo

will do to persuade people either. I

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don't see people thinking that the

FBI is against Donald Trump will

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change their mind.

The baseline for

Devin Nunes is that the dossier

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spurred the investigation.

It

explicitly confirms what has been

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reported before. George Papadopoulos

was the spark that hit the fire. I

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don't know if it shows anything in

the way of how the investigation was

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conducted. It reveals how deeply

split the house intelligence

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omitting is in its partisan camps

over this investigation which has

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threatened to derail this

investigation. This isn't the first

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time that he has tried to do that.

Shane Harris at the Washington Post,

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thank you very much.

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Let's check in with

Peter Ahearn on this -

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he served as Special Agent

for the FBI for almost thirty years

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and joins me now in the studio.

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His there any upside in terms of

intelligence gathering in releasing

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little bits of intelligence in this

way that the Republicans have

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already and the Democrats want to

do?

First of all, there was no

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reason they should have released

classified material. That in itself

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is a problem. In this case, some of

this information is out. It's only a

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very small part of the total picture

of the information and any

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information that gets out can be

damaging, our adversarial, the

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Russians in particular are laughing

at this. They can't wait to see what

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comes out of this to help them

understand how the FBI collect

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intelligence. This isn't a criminal

investigation. It is a huge

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difference.

This process of

criticising the FBI that we have

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witnessed over the last few weeks in

particular, how damaging is it, not

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just to the organisation not to

American security?

The Americans

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have to have the confidence that the

FBI will do its job and it is

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definitely still there. The one

thing about being independent, both

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sides hate your guts. In this case,

you're dealing with an issue where

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you can't win. I could tell you

right now that the director would be

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briefing the president if something

happened and doing the job that he

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was appointed to do as well as every

other member of the FBI but it does

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get old, it can wear you down but

not stopping them from doing their

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job. Robert Mueller's job has not

ended.

If you're not getting it from

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both sides if you're supposed to be

in the middle, you are in trouble.

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The committee meet in private,

classified information is shared

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between them or has been in the

past. That sometimes doesn't suit

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the FBI. Will they now be more loath

to share things that they probably

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should share with the committee.

That's correct but it won't stop

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them if that's what they are told to

do. You are sharing some very

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classified information with members

of Congress. Also, you have to think

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about the members of staff, who

pretty much wrote this memo and

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getting to look into certain things,

there is concern about sharing

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information and links that can be

derived from that. It is not the FBI

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only. The CIA, the NSA, the other

members of the intelligence

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community are concerned that when

they are briefing things, is that

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information going to get out? Is it

going to compromise the sources and

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methods of United States

intelligence agencies that they used

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to get the information?

That is key.

It is a pretty clear rule of thumb

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that the people who look for

something the more likely it is to

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get laid.

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A year and a half after

the Brexit referendum,

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Britain needs to decide

what it wants in its future

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relationship with Europe -

that was the verdict today

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of the EU's chief

negotiator, Michel Barnier.

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The choice is whether Britain

will share rules and tariffs

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with the EU once it has left -

or go its own way.

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There have been concerns among those

who voted for Brexit,

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that a promise to the leave the EU,

is being diluted by those ministers

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who voted to Remain.

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But last night the government made

it clear, that it was not UK policy

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to stay in ANY customs

union with the EU.

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So, what is the policy?

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Our political editor

Laura Kuenssberg reports.

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In a hurry.

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Not just to catch the 1056

from Brussels to London.

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We have not a minute

to lose, because

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we want to achieve a deal.

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But the EU's chief negotiator

wants to press on.

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It is time for bargaining he says

as the next round of Brexit

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talks loom.

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The first priority for him

and his host David Davis

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is to agree what happens

straight after Brexit.

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Do you know what the British

government wants?

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In the two years or so time frame

not much will change

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but the real posturing

is about the longer term.

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Theresa May popped in for a drink

after reminding her

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party that she wants out

of the single market free trade area

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and the current customs union.

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But she knows, along

with these two, there

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might be mishaps along the way.

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Our negotiating team

is starting straightaway,

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tomorrow certainly on an intensive

period of negotiation

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and we can get that agreement.

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Yet while this might

sound elegant in a

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French accent it is still a warning.

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Without the customs union, outside

the single market, barriers to trade

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and goods and services

are unavoidable.

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Time has come to make a choice.

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In other words, Foreign Secretary

and others, make your mind up.

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The EU's has consistently said

we can't keep the best bits of the

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EU without losing somewhere.

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But that has always been

rejected by Brexiteers.

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What my side wants,

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what most of the country

wants is a good deal.

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The way to get a good deal is to be

very clear that we are leaving,

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we are leaving the single

market, leaving the customs union.

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The fear of others in the Tory party

and the government is that the

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Eurosceptics are too close to No 10.

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This week

the Prime Minister hopes to get

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the Cabinet to find a compromise.

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What is more important, sticking

close to the EU or

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making the most of freedom outside?

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We've heard a lot of,

we are not going to do this,

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we are not going to do that.

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What are we going to do?

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That is what we're waiting

to hear, that is what

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the 27 countries the UK's

negotiating with waiting to hear.

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In the meantime

this uncertainty is really,

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really bad for business.

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No 10 has to make

bargains within its

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party as well as

with the EU outside.

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Today's talks were about the EU

in the UK plugging back in

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before the next charge

round of negotiations really gets

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going but arguably for there to be

meaningful

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progress any time soon the UK

ministers have to speed up their

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decisions about their

overall approach.

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None of the questions are easy

but after months of squabbling

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time to discuss becomes

time to decide.

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Laura Kuenssberg,

BBC News, Westminster.

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The former US gymnastics

doctor, Larry Nassar,

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has been sentenced to

an additional 40 to 125 years

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in prison.

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The sentence relates

to the sexual abuse

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of young female athletes.

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Nassar carried out the abuse

over two decades under the guise

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of medical treatment.

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The sole surviving suspect

of the Paris attacks in 2015

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has gone on trial in Belgium

in a separate case linked

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to his arrest in Brussels.

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29-year-old Salah Abdeslam

is accused of attempting to murder

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police officers during a gun battle,

four months after the Paris attacks.

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If you know the story

of Rocky Balboa you will know that

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Philadelphia is a sucker

for a good underdog story.

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Last night it was their own football

team that overcame all the odds.

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The Eagles beat the New England

Patriots to win the trophy

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for the first time.

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And with a back-up quarterback who

nearly gave up the game entirely.

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Nick Foles got his

chance in December

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when the regular quarterback

sustained a season-ending injury.

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On Sunday night,

facing the Patriots' Tom Brady,

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one of the greatest quarterbacks

of all time, Foles came of age.

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Throwing three touchdowns

and even running one in himself.

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Voted the most valuable

player on the field.

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Fairytale stuff.

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Jane O'Brien is in Philly.

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Lucky you. What a party they had

last night.

They certainly did.

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Today is officially won they I don't

know if it is going to be a state

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annual holiday but it is hilarious

here because this city is suffering

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from a monumental collective

hangover. Pretty much everybody I

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has spoken to was out until the

early hours just partying. Luigi at

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the pizza shop on the corner said

that normally he sells 200 wings and

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night. Last night it was 2000. He

said it was out of control. They are

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preparing for the victory parade

that will take place on Thursday and

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I'm being assured that it will be

the biggest parade that Philadelphia

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has ever seen. That is a passing

fan. Another fan gave me this.

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Apparently I'm in the wrong colours.

It is the the Eagles flag. It has

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clearly seen some action. It smells

of beer. Won't be coming back in the

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car with ours. Save to say, fly,

Eagles, fly!

The green! The green!

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I've got my green tie on, as well.

We wish you were there.

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And for more on the big game

last night we can turn

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now to Tommy Smyth -

who after decades covering

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the football Europeans know and love

has turned his sights

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to the American game.

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Great to have you back on. I had no

idea that you were an American

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football fan. I feel slightly

betrayed because I have spoken to so

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many times about soccer. Did you

enjoy the game?

It was an incredible

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game. I'm speaking as someone who

has seen every one of the Super

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Bowls. It was as good a game as I've

seen. A typical Philadelphia story.

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Philadelphia fans are meat and

potatoes, they don't want it fancy,

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they just want to win and they

certainly did last night.

Tell

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others about Nick Foles, the young

quarterback, young by Tom Brady's

0:20:560:21:04

standards, and yours and mine, he

had a great game.

He had a

0:21:040:21:10

believable game. The difference was

when the coach called that place

0:21:100:21:16

where Nick Foles went into the end

zone and caught a pass himself. Ten

0:21:160:21:21

minutes before that, Tom Brady tried

the same thing and it didn't

0:21:210:21:23

succeed. That was the changing of

the guard right there. And then that

0:21:230:21:30

Hail Mary at the end. Those are

something that the Patriots have

0:21:300:21:35

become accustomed to getting

something out of but there was

0:21:350:21:38

nothing last night.

Glad that you

are wearing your Eagles green tie,

0:21:380:21:43

like I am. There will be producers

in Hollywood queueing up for the

0:21:430:21:48

Nick Foles story. He was thinking

about quitting the game. He was in

0:21:480:21:53

the background as the number two

quarterback. He was booed in the

0:21:530:21:59

regular season and now he comes to

prominence facing Tom Brady, the God

0:21:590:22:03

of Super Bowl.

It doesn't get any

better. You couldn't write a

0:22:030:22:11

Hollywood story that was like this.

People would say you are crazy. It

0:22:110:22:17

just went right for him at the right

time. He won't be the first

0:22:170:22:22

quarterback next year. Philadelphia

will go back to the number one. Even

0:22:220:22:29

though he won the Super Bowl, he

could be out of a job next year. But

0:22:290:22:33

a lot of managers would love to have

him. It was a real Rocky story.

0:22:330:22:39

Fabulous stuff. Deep into the fourth

quarter, because of the game,

0:22:390:22:46

because of the stature of Tom Brady,

it could have gone to the Patriots

0:22:460:22:50

right at the death.

You are watching

and watching because we have become

0:22:500:22:56

so accustomed to the Patriots

partying out. In life, nothing lasts

0:22:560:23:05

forever but tonight the Eagles were

the ones.

Sylvester Stallone put

0:23:050:23:13

something up on Instagram. Young,

Eagles! In my best Rocky Balboa

0:23:130:23:22

voice. What does it mean for the

franchise?

An awful out of money.

0:23:220:23:28

Plus, when you look at this team,

this team is basically going to come

0:23:280:23:32

back next year with a different

quarterback. They are not going to

0:23:320:23:37

lose any of their players. They are

set up now. They could become a

0:23:370:23:42

dynasty. They could become the

Patriots. They could come the

0:23:420:23:46

Patriots of the future. They have a

really good-looking team. The

0:23:460:23:51

defence is coming back. They will be

back again.

They will love to hear

0:23:510:23:56

that in Philadelphia. Last night was

my first time I actually watched the

0:23:560:24:03

film Super Bowl game. My son explain

the game to me. Luckily he

0:24:030:24:09

understands it. I could actually see

that people were watching it for the

0:24:090:24:16

game. After a year in which the NFL

has come in for so criticism for

0:24:160:24:21

many reasons, it was good to see

that the football was what people

0:24:210:24:30

were talking about and not the

politics and not incidents of abuse

0:24:300:24:34

in the game.

If the NFL had written

the story that this was the way they

0:24:340:24:39

wanted to end the season, this would

have been it. It took all that other

0:24:390:24:43

stuff out and still focused on the

game. With seconds left on the

0:24:430:24:48

clock, the game was up for grabs.

You were waiting to see where the

0:24:480:24:52

ball went. If grand cat -- Grant

caught the ball, the Patriots would

0:24:520:25:00

have got it. It was a real shot in

the arm for the game.

Thank you,

0:25:000:25:07

Tommy. Christine, deduced a band

watch the game? You know that I fell

0:25:070:25:13

asleep on the sofa in the first

quarter and my wife had to come down

0:25:130:25:17

to kick me off the sofa to go to

bed. It was a poor show. I saw the

0:25:170:25:22

first field goal and I saw the

Patriots get down the other end and

0:25:220:25:27

that was it. So, I missed it.

Useless. No good at all.

0:25:270:25:32

This is Beyond 100

Days from the BBC.

0:25:320:25:35

Coming up for viewers

on the BBC News Channel

0:25:350:25:39

and BBC World News -

we ask are there enough safeguards

0:25:390:25:42

in place to protect those who work

in the so called gig economy?

0:25:420:25:46

And the British man accused

of hacking into American

0:25:460:25:49

government computers wins

against being extradited

0:25:490:25:50

to the United States.

0:25:500:25:51

That's still to come.

0:25:510:26:02

The next couple of nights are going

to be very cold indeed. Tomorrow

0:26:120:26:15

night will be even colder. Tonight,

some snow on the way. Let's see

0:26:150:26:20

where. First of all, in Northern

Ireland and parts of Scotland a

0:26:200:26:26

light covering is possible. One or

two centimetres. In the early hours

0:26:260:26:33

of Tuesday, it reaches the north of

England and merges into Wales and

0:26:330:26:38

the north-west of England. I had of

that, towards the east and south,

0:26:380:26:43

partly cloudy skies and a harsh

frost. Temperatures down to -3 or 4

0:26:430:26:48

degrees. By 8am, the weather front

has gone through and we are in a

0:26:480:26:54

cold air mass. Wintry showers will

follow. The weather front coming

0:26:540:27:02

through Newcastle to York and

Manchester, Northern Wales, the West

0:27:020:27:07

Midlands and nudging into

Birmingham. The very far south-west,

0:27:070:27:11

the tip of Cornwall it is probably

going to be rainfall. A covering of

0:27:110:27:19

snow, one or two centimetres, over

the hills it could be five or ten.

0:27:190:27:22

There could be delays on Tuesday

morning. The weather front gets

0:27:220:27:28

stuck across the Midlands and the

south and it is just cloud. Not much

0:27:280:27:34

snow to come. Tomorrow night,

Tuesday night Interwetten stay, it

0:27:340:27:38

turns really cold. Snow showers here

and there but the temperature will

0:27:380:27:42

be the story. It could be easily -5

Celsius. Negative double digits

0:27:420:27:53

expected widely in Scotland. Outside

of city centres. Wednesday not

0:27:530:27:59

looking too bad. Another front

approaching but ahead of it a cold

0:27:590:28:03

and frosty start. Clear skies, a

beautiful crisp winter's day. Then

0:28:030:28:09

another weather front moves in and

within this area of cloud, rain and

0:28:090:28:14

drizzle, maybe a bit of snow in the

North, milder air heading our way.

0:28:140:28:19

By the time we get to Thursday, it

will turn milder. Temperatures

0:28:190:28:25

recovering to rant about six. Maybe

even 10 degrees in the far

0:28:250:28:28

south-west. Goodbye.

0:28:280:28:32

This is Beyond 100 Days. Christian

Fraser is in London. Our top

0:30:120:30:16

stories: Theresa May defends the

British health care is system after

0:30:160:30:21

President Trump treats that it is

broke and not working. Coming up in

0:30:210:30:31

the next half-hour: Democrats push

for their right to reply to a

0:30:310:30:35

Republican memo accusing the FBI of

bias in its investigation of top's

0:30:350:30:41

ties with Russia. A British hacker

accused of hacking into US

0:30:410:30:48

computers, with his battle against

extradition. Let us know your

0:30:480:30:51

thoughts.

0:30:510:30:58

Are there enough safeguard ins place

for people who work in the so-called

0:31:020:31:08

gig economy. That is the term used

to describe companies such as the

0:31:080:31:14

about, for whom self-employed

drivers are matched with jobs or

0:31:140:31:16

gates. This man was one of these

self-employed workers. He was also

0:31:160:31:24

diabetic. Last year, he collapsed

twice at the real of his ban, but

0:31:240:31:29

because he -- wheel of his van, but

because he faced a penalty, he

0:31:290:31:32

started missing medical

appointments. In late December,

0:31:320:31:36

having worked through Christmas to

meet the rush, he collapsed and

0:31:360:31:42

died. His wife spoke trust. She

explains that things started to get

0:31:420:31:48

harder for, as he took out a

franchise with the company?

It

0:31:480:31:51

sounded an amazing, amazing

opportunity. And, you get the

0:31:510:31:58

contracts, I believe, back then it

was a five-year contract. But, now

0:31:580:32:03

it is a format you want. And part of

the contract, I'm afraid, there are

0:32:030:32:08

clauses, and if you don't agree with

them, you don't get your franchise.

0:32:080:32:12

One of those causes is -- clauses is

a ridiculously unfair fine, charge

0:32:120:32:21

of £150. Something that nobody wants

to fork out for. If anything, if you

0:32:210:32:26

don't work that day, you don't own

anything. That is fine enough, but

0:32:260:32:33

to charge on top of not only for

that day of £150, awful. That is

0:32:330:32:39

some people's weekly wage, you know.

A lot of money. Not fair.

I presume,

0:32:390:32:45

that on those days when he woke up

and did not feel well, it is not so

0:32:450:32:50

easy, if it's to find a basement

driver at the drop of a hat? Was

0:32:500:32:53

that part of the problem, that he

could not find a placement is

0:32:530:32:59

macular Matt Jess. You've got to be

trained. You can't get anybody to

0:32:590:33:05

drive the van. They have tuna had

used the hand held computers.

It

0:33:050:33:10

works out the roots and tells you

what time you finish your work.

0:33:100:33:14

Never had dinner breaks. They would

eat on the go. The last few days,

0:33:140:33:22

before New Year's Eve when I lost

him, he wasn't feeling good. He had,

0:33:220:33:26

I thought... It was a sickness bug.

Towards the end, he was saying, I've

0:33:260:33:35

was bringing up a bit of blood. He

was a lovely man. He would have

0:33:350:33:42

loved him. Bubbly, vivacious, fun

loving. Always had a lovely smile.

0:33:420:33:48

He was just my best friend, and now

I have lost my soul mate, and I'm so

0:33:480:33:52

lost. I wish I could worry about the

time. I wish I could have made him

0:33:520:34:00

go to hospital appointments. I just

wish I had worried at the time. I

0:34:000:34:04

miss him so much, you would have

loved him, obviously. A hard worker,

0:34:040:34:10

dedicated and a lovely father to our

son, Jordan. A lovely man.

We wished

0:34:100:34:19

he could have made those

appointments to. Thank you for

0:34:190:34:22

talking to us. I know that this is

really difficult.

Thank you it is a

0:34:220:34:27

pleasure.

Well, we do have a

statement from DPD.

0:34:270:34:31

The Depot did not charge Don.

0:35:090:35:13

Well, let's speak to Kate Bell, who

was head of economic policy at the

0:35:310:35:36

trades unions Congress. Good to see

you. Really hard to watch Ruth's

0:35:360:35:44

interview, and a difficult time for

her. Let's talk about the Taylor

0:35:440:35:48

review on the modern working

practices, which the Government

0:35:480:35:52

commissioned Matthew Taylor's

report. Due to bring out its

0:35:520:35:57

findings this week. I want to read

you one bit. They say that eight MRC

0:35:570:36:01

should take responsibility for

forcing the basic set of poor

0:36:010:36:05

deployment of rights that apply to

all workers. National minimum wage,

0:36:050:36:10

sick pay, and holiday pay for the

lowest paid workers.

We do think

0:36:100:36:17

that would be a good step in the

right direction. There are too many

0:36:170:36:21

bad employers. We hear from too many

people who are missing out on is

0:36:210:36:25

sick pay, whether that is because

they have been pushed into forced

0:36:250:36:28

self-employment, or because they do

not qualify for that. It is great to

0:36:280:36:32

see that the Government wants to

enforce the rights that we do have,

0:36:320:36:35

but too many people do not qualify

for sick people, at all. We had from

0:36:350:36:40

zero I was contracts, where one in

eight said they were getting any

0:36:400:36:43

sick pay. That would be a start, but

there is a lot more to do.

There was

0:36:430:36:51

a report specifically on the UK

delivery sector, and he said that in

0:36:510:36:55

the working day of a career, delays

are commensurate with lower

0:36:550:37:00

earnings.

Don's case is absolutely

tragic, but unfortunately we do hear

0:37:000:37:06

from people across sectors, and it

is not just from carriers, we have

0:37:060:37:10

from care workers, constantly under

pressure to meet targets. We hear

0:37:100:37:14

from people in the hospitality

industry, not getting their rights

0:37:140:37:17

and protections. This report, the

Government is response will for this

0:37:170:37:22

report, really is an opportunity for

the Government to say, we are

0:37:220:37:24

listening to these people's stories

and we are hearing them, and we want

0:37:240:37:27

to do something about it.

As more

and more people start to be employed

0:37:270:37:33

in the gig economy, is there going

to be in a sense a situation where

0:37:330:37:39

these companies, rubella, whatever

it is, say, luck. If you do not like

0:37:390:37:46

terms and conditions, and they are

going to take them. The protections

0:37:460:37:53

that come with it are going to be

quantified be different as well. We

0:37:530:37:57

just have not had that conversation

about whether that is what we want.

0:37:570:38:00

I think that we are pretty sceptical

that this is a quantified the

0:38:000:38:05

different way of working. This looks

like some old expedition dustup

0:38:050:38:09

anderson new technology platforms.

We saw the case with Uber this year.

0:38:090:38:16

I think we have got to be a bit more

ambitious and say, because of new

0:38:160:38:21

ways of workers, -- working, people

do not qualify for the minimum wage.

0:38:210:38:27

We do need a conversation about

that. I think that most people would

0:38:270:38:31

conclude that that is not

acceptable.

Kate, here in the US, of

0:38:310:38:36

course there have been stories about

a lift driver for example, who went

0:38:360:38:40

into labour while she was driving a

client, and then drove that guide to

0:38:400:38:44

the hospital. It is held up by Left,

look at the fantastic employee! But,

0:38:440:38:53

that undermines the argument in

favour of these protections.

I don't

0:38:530:39:01

think so. I think most people would

be pretty concerned, when they say

0:39:010:39:05

that this person is being forced to

work to take me to wherever I am

0:39:050:39:10

going. Most people want the people

they work with to say, I know this

0:39:100:39:14

person is getting the right health

and safety protections. I know that

0:39:140:39:17

they are being paid the minimum

wage...

But what I responsibilities

0:39:170:39:23

as a consumer, though. I'm not

picking on Amazon. But Amazon, John

0:39:230:39:28

Lewis, Marks & Spencer. They all

send them through DPD. They want it

0:39:280:39:32

as quick as possible, and they want

it quick. Should they have a

0:39:320:39:36

responsible teacher put higher those

who will put best practice... Tenner

0:39:360:39:44

there is irresponsible to four

Government here to say we have some

0:39:440:39:47

minimum standards. This just is not

OK.

It is harder for consumers to

0:39:470:39:53

find out the information. We know

that there are great ways that

0:39:530:39:58

people can take action. People get

up and say, this is not OK and we

0:39:580:40:06

will fight for our rights, but we do

need Government to step into. -- in,

0:40:060:40:12

too.

US market are down again today

after sustaining losses last week.

0:40:120:40:21

On Friday, the three main US stock

markets suffered their biggest fall

0:40:210:40:27

in three years. Investors are

nervous that a strengthening job

0:40:270:40:33

market could mean a hike in interest

rates. Today is also the day that

0:40:330:40:38

former investment banker was sworn

in as...

Be used chief negotiator,

0:40:380:40:49

Michel Barnier, has warned the

Government that trade barriers will

0:40:490:40:53

happen. Speaking after talks with

the Brexit secretary, David Davis,

0:40:530:40:56

Mr Barnier said that the time had

come. For the UK to make a choice.

0:40:560:41:05

There has been days of public

squalor bowing -- squabbling. Does

0:41:050:41:14

it look more like we are moving to

what might be called a hard Brexit

0:41:140:41:18

rather than a soft Brexit? Have the

Brexiteers got the upper hand?

Well,

0:41:180:41:22

what the Government confirmed today,

is that its policy, set out the

0:41:220:41:31

Lancaster house speech, that this

country is leaving the single market

0:41:310:41:34

and the customs union, and I think

there will be huge economic

0:41:340:41:37

opportunities that the UK when that

does happen.

You are a former

0:41:370:41:43

Secretary of State for Ireland. What

are staying in the customs union

0:41:430:41:47

mean for the Irish border, it's

complicated isn't it?

The UK

0:41:470:41:53

Government set out some incredible

plans as to how we might deal with

0:41:530:41:56

the practicalities of a border to

keep... To keep it as free-flowing

0:41:560:42:00

as possible. Whatever the customs

relationship is between the UK and

0:42:000:42:04

the EU. I think it is perfectly

possible to do that. One of the

0:42:040:42:08

advantages of leaving the EU is to

take back control over our trade

0:42:080:42:15

policy, and I believe that the

Government is right to confirm, once

0:42:150:42:19

again, that we will be leaving the

customs union, so that we can strike

0:42:190:42:24

those trade deals with many

important markets around the world.

0:42:240:42:27

To get the sort of deal that people

want, a civil service is going to

0:42:270:42:31

have to work doubly hard. Are you

one of those politicians that think

0:42:310:42:36

the civil service is biased against

Brexit, or is it guilty of...

I

0:42:360:42:43

wouldn't describe the civil service

in that way. I think it is important

0:42:430:42:47

that they have firm direction from

the top. I think, the Prime Minister

0:42:470:42:52

has given that direction on the

customs union, today. I think it

0:42:520:42:55

will be important in the coming

days, as crucial decisions are made

0:42:550:43:00

about what the Government was the

end state to look like. That they

0:43:000:43:05

give firm leadership on that to

their civil servants. We have got

0:43:050:43:09

some excellent officials working on

this issue. I am sure that they are

0:43:090:43:11

doing their very best to ensure that

we have a smooth departure from the

0:43:110:43:15

EU. It is important that the

Government provide a lead to all of

0:43:150:43:22

their civil servants.

In doing their

very best, they come up with reports

0:43:220:43:26

say that in any scenario, Brexit

will damage the economy. I am afraid

0:43:260:43:31

--

I am afraid that the economic

forecasts are very often proven to

0:43:310:43:36

be incorrect. After all, the

Government and the Remain campaign

0:43:360:43:40

did produce forecasts saying that

there would be some immediate

0:43:400:43:46

economic shock if the country voted

to leave. Actually, we've got record

0:43:460:43:50

investment, the lowest an

appointment rate for 40 years, and

0:43:500:43:52

the economy has... The fundamentals

of the economy are strong. So, what

0:43:520:43:58

ever the Treasury is come up with by

way of forecast, I view with a pinch

0:43:580:44:02

of salt, because so often, it is to

be incorrect.

Thank you very much

0:44:020:44:08

for joining us from Westminster. A

32-year-old man has won his

0:44:080:44:15

challenge against ex-addition to the

United States. Lauri Love who has

0:44:150:44:20

Asperger's syndrome is alleged to

have carried out a series of cyber

0:44:200:44:23

attacks it to US companies and

agencies, including Nasa and the US

0:44:230:44:28

Army.

Lawyers argued that he was at

risk of killing himself if he was

0:44:280:44:33

sent to the United States. Judges

here in the UK said that it would be

0:44:330:44:37

oppressive to sent him to trial in

America. Daniela Ralph was there.

0:44:370:44:48

Larry Love described it as annoying

away on his soul. The reason I have

0:44:480:44:54

gone through this ordeal is not just

to save myself from being kidnapped

0:44:540:45:01

and locked up from a country I never

visited, but it is to set a

0:45:010:45:05

precedent whereby this will not

happen to other people in the

0:45:050:45:07

future. The Appeal Court judges

ruled that Lauri Love was

0:45:070:45:16

vulnerable. Crucially, for his

well-being, he needed to be close to

0:45:160:45:21

his parents, here, in Britain. The

relief for Lauri Love, his family

0:45:210:45:25

and his supporters is obvious here

at court. They believe that this

0:45:250:45:29

decision is just and humane. In a

spate of online attacks in 2012, and

0:45:290:45:39

2013, Lauri Love is alleged to have

hacked into the computer systems of

0:45:390:45:45

several US Government agencies. They

include the FBI, and the Department

0:45:450:45:49

of defence. The Federal reserve,

America was accidental bank and the

0:45:490:45:55

space agency, Nasa. He was chased by

a remaining e-mail address and a

0:45:550:46:00

PayPal account. He has been

interviewed here by Britain's

0:46:000:46:03

National Crime Agency, but as yet

has not been charged. Today's

0:46:030:46:07

judgment did not rule out a

prosecution here in the UK.

0:46:070:46:11

Something that his family and his

supporters are perpetual. How do you

0:46:110:46:14

feel about the prospect of a trial

here in the UK and the possible jail

0:46:140:46:21

time?

I do trust a trial in the UK.

The chances of me ever being on

0:46:210:46:29

child there were very slim. In the

UK we don't pressure people into

0:46:290:46:37

facilitating their own prosecutions.

This case has been a strain on the

0:46:370:46:42

his whole family.

There is a

consensus of agreement of the things

0:46:420:46:48

that really matter. About decency,

justice and fairness. I always have

0:46:480:46:53

believed that you live on these

islands is to win the lottery of

0:46:530:46:57

life, and what makes Britain great

is not about power or might, but the

0:46:570:47:01

fact that it is a great place to

live.

The United States now has two

0:47:010:47:05

Mac weeks to lodge a request for an

appeal here at the UK Supreme Court.

0:47:050:47:11

The crowd prosecution service will

also decide whether to bring

0:47:110:47:14

charges. But, despite the remaining

uncertainty, this was a day to

0:47:140:47:19

celebrate for Lauri Love. He needs

to focus -- he wants to focus now on

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his electoral engineering degree,

and is planning to pursue a career

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in cyber security.

He was facing 99

years if he was convicted in an

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American jail. He said today that he

wanted to set a precedent - a

0:47:370:47:43

president to protect people with

autism and Asperger's, which is that

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are not fully understood, and some

people applaud him for that, but the

0:47:470:47:50

other side say, is that people who

hacked into Nasa, or the CIA need to

0:47:500:47:59

face justice in the United States.

They will be worried that the

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precedent that has been set here,

says something dangerous to other

0:48:020:48:07

countries, like those in China,

Russia, the Americans tried to get

0:48:070:48:10

hold of the crimes that they have

committed. YTS. And I guess if you

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spoke to people here, who were

critical about the court's ruling,

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they would say, well, how would you

feel if it was somebody who had

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hacked out of Moscow all Beijing.

It

comes down to this issue of how much

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weight to give to the mental health

of somebody, if that mental health

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is proven to be beyond the spectrum

that might affect average people who

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were in this situation. That is the

humane case that the court clearly

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ruled on in favour of the UK, but I

do not think there will be very much

0:48:460:48:51

sympathy for Lauri Love here in the

US. As you say, this is a dangerous

0:48:510:48:58

precedent that will be watched in

Beijing and in Moscow. But the

0:48:580:49:02

likelihood of those people coming to

trial is quite low. This is Beyond

0:49:020:49:06

100 Days, and still to come. And all

women team complete the crossing of

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Antarctica. They hope that it will

inspire others to do the same.

A

0:49:120:49:20

white supremacist who planned to

carry out a machete attack has been

0:49:200:49:28

convicted of an act of terrorism --

planning an act of terrorism.

Ethan

0:49:280:49:34

Stables...

0:49:340:49:44

Ethan Stables,

self-confessed neo Nazi.

0:49:520:49:53

For more than six months he planned

to carry out an attack.

0:49:530:49:56

He had been homeless in Barrow,

and eventually moved into a small

0:49:560:49:59

dilapidated flat in the town.

0:49:590:50:00

Behind his front door last June,

he spoke online about how

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he hated gay people.

0:50:030:50:04

He began to amass weapons.

0:50:040:50:05

And recorded this shocking video.

0:50:050:50:06

It's just like gay people,

much nicer when they're on fire.

0:50:060:50:09

He told members of a private neo

Nazi Facebook group there were Pride

0:50:090:50:12

flags flying over a nearby pub

and it was time to turn

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hate into action.

0:50:150:50:16

In a series of increasingly

frightening posts,

0:50:160:50:17

Stables revealed his plan.

0:50:170:50:18

"I'm going to war

tonight," he told them.

0:50:180:50:20

Some readers encouraged him, but one

replied, that's not right, Ethan.

0:50:200:50:30

He posted this reconnaissance

poster and signed off:

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Barmaid Katy Bolger was setting up

for the night when armed officers,

0:50:350:50:38

tipped off by a Facebook

user, rushed in.

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It frightened me.

0:50:400:50:41

I felt like a deer in

the headlights, they said there had

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been a terrorist threat made

against the pub and this person

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was going to come in while the event

was on and basically harm people.

0:50:460:50:50

I was so angry afterwards to think

someone would actually do something

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like that to a peaceful place.

0:50:530:50:56

With the armed police over there,

the manhunt across Barrow continued

0:50:560:50:59

and shortly after 10pm Ethan Stables

was arrested on this road,

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between his flat and the target.

0:51:010:51:03

The prosecutor said this

was his last act of reconnaissance

0:51:030:51:05

before he would have gone home

to get his weapons.

0:51:050:51:07

This is what police recorded finding

after they broke into his flat -

0:51:070:51:11

a swastika flag on the wall,

weapons including an axe

0:51:110:51:13

laid out and prepared,

evidence that Stables was trying

0:51:130:51:15

to make his own explosives.

0:51:150:51:16

It would have been a bloodbath,

no getting away from that.

0:51:160:51:19

I just wish it was taken

more seriously...

0:51:190:51:21

Lee Wicks runs the LGBT support

group that was the target and said

0:51:210:51:24

the far right are once more becoming

emboldened as they go unchallenged

0:51:240:51:27

on social media.

0:51:270:51:28

Personally I think Facebook should

have closed his account.

0:51:280:51:30

I was quite horrified

to see his main picture was him

0:51:300:51:33

looking very Aryan in front

of a swastika banner, flag,

0:51:330:51:35

and the literature was very

extreme Nazi propaganda.

0:51:350:51:37

Facebook has not commented on why

Stables remained online,

0:51:370:51:39

despite at least four

complaints against him.

0:51:390:51:41

During his defence he claimed

he never meant his words

0:51:410:51:43

and that he was in fact bisexual.

0:51:430:51:45

His conviction today for preparing

an act of terrorism means

0:51:450:51:47

he could face a life sentence.

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Since the end of the Cold War, it

has been argued that the elected

0:51:490:51:52

Government have been those to cause

because it breakdowns. In the US, we

0:51:520:51:54

have seen a suspicion raised in the

institutions that underpinned the

0:51:540:51:56

states such as the FBI.

So, are we

witnessing a gradual undermining of

0:51:560:51:59

democracy, itself. Thanks very much

for coming on the programme. This is

0:51:590:52:01

very topical at the moment. Donald

Trump is criticised for attacking a

0:52:010:52:06

number of institutions in the United

States. Principally, the media, and

0:52:060:52:11

of course be caught, as well.

That

is right. It is part of a global way

0:52:110:52:17

that we are studying in this book.

Me and my co-writer examine this

0:52:170:52:26

round the world.

The argument in the

America though is that institutions

0:52:260:52:30

will protect institutions from

someone like Donald Trump is that

0:52:300:52:37

true?

Well yes. We generally see

America as a stable democracy. There

0:52:370:52:46

are many reasons to be optimistic

about the US. In particular, we see

0:52:460:52:49

a wrap Democratic Alliance vision of

the Republican party --

0:52:490:52:58

radicalisation of the Republican

party.

You could say that it was not

0:52:580:53:03

Donald Trump who started this. The

root of the sort of part of --

0:53:030:53:09

partisan ship that we have seen in

America came well before Donald

0:53:090:53:11

Trump?

Definitely, the problem is

deeper than Donald Trump. In the

0:53:110:53:18

early 1990s, there have been

increased polarisation of the

0:53:180:53:21

parties. They began to hate each

other. Evidence in the opinion

0:53:210:53:25

surveys as well as in everyday

politics. As Democratic opposition

0:53:250:53:29

focuses on Donald Trump, perhaps too

narrowly. There are problems as

0:53:290:53:37

well.

What we have seen in Eastern

Europe, is a few governments that

0:53:370:53:40

have been elected that had to be

from populist nationalist movements.

0:53:400:53:45

Would you say that what is happening

in the east of Europe is a

0:53:450:53:50

reflection of the fact that those

institutions are not as robust as

0:53:500:53:54

they might be in other Western

countries?

I think that is right.

0:53:540:53:58

The US has this system of checks and

balances. The US federal system also

0:53:580:54:03

played a role in constraining

authoritarian tendencies, so one

0:54:030:54:06

have a Parliamentary system... With

a majority, you could dramatically

0:54:060:54:15

revamped rules, like in Hungary, but

this is much harder to do in the

0:54:150:54:23

United States.

Do you think that the

US institutions that are under

0:54:230:54:28

attack at the moment are a direct

the damage, or after centuries of

0:54:280:54:33

existence, will they survive the

current onslaught?

We really think

0:54:330:54:38

that the US is in a much better

position. Because of the age of the

0:54:380:54:44

democracy, the vibrancy of civil

society, the national wealth... They

0:54:440:54:48

are more likely to survive

challenges and political crises. The

0:54:480:54:51

US is in a much better condition,

and in many ways... Although the

0:54:510:54:55

name of our book is how democracies

die, we do not think democracy is

0:54:550:55:00

dead in the US. There are these

ominous echoes, other countries in

0:55:000:55:08

around the world, Venezuela, Turkey,

where people come to power through

0:55:080:55:12

elections, and then once in power

tried to dismantle those elections.

0:55:120:55:16

Thank you so much for joining us

from Harvard. Very glad to hear that

0:55:160:55:20

democracy is not dead. Six women

from the British Army have become

0:55:200:55:24

the largest all-female group to ski

coast across Antarctica. The

0:55:240:55:31

so-called Ice Maiden team tackled

winds of up to 60 mph. They were

0:55:310:55:38

expected to take between 75 and 92

days. But, they managed to do it in

0:55:380:55:42

just 62 days. The PDB jelly to the

top short call -- the trip to the

0:55:420:55:59

south pole.

That is it from

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