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11:47am. The question is as on the order paper. Mr John McDonnell. I do | :00:00. | :00:09. | |
hope the good humour continues, but we will see. I admire the honourable | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
member bore his creativity at all matters -- all times on raising | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
matters. Mr Speaker, you and I have been in the chamber for over 20 | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
years, watching budget debates, and as you most probably know, have | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
referred in the past to the iron law of budgets. It's this. That the | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
louder the cheers for the Chancellor on the budget day, the greater the | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
disappointment three days later at the weekend. I'm revising that iron | :00:38. | :00:44. | |
law. This budget didn't last three days, it lasted less than three | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
hours. I want to address some of the main policy announcements in the | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
budget but I believe overall the Chancellor's statement evidenced the | :00:55. | :00:58. | |
fundamental difference in values of our two parties. What we saw | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
yesterday was a Conservative Chancellor boasting about tax cuts | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
to the corporations and the rich, whilst refusing to effectively | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
tackle the crisis in social care for the elderly, refusing to properly | :01:10. | :01:16. | |
fund the NHS and increasing the national insurance birding on many | :01:17. | :01:21. | |
middle and low self employed earners. At the same time, breaking | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
a clear manifesto promise. Our values are these. We believe in a | :01:29. | :01:32. | |
fair taxation system, where everybody, no matter how rich and | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
powerful they may be, they pay their way. We believe that the Uefa | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
taxation system and collective endeavour, the elderly and the | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
disabled should be cared for, the thick should be treated and children | :01:46. | :01:49. | |
educated to do about their talents to the full. -- been sick should be | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
treated. That is not what we saw yesterday. We also adhere to | :01:56. | :02:01. | |
manifesto promises. On the state of the economy, all the talk before the | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
budget, I saw from the press briefings of the Chancellor, was | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
aimed at providing a positive backdrop for Brexit. That is not the | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
real world experience of millions of people. Yesterday, the Chancellor | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
boasted about economic growth. But what is positive about Britain being | :02:19. | :02:22. | |
the only large developed economy where, when economic growth | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
returned, wages fell? What is positive about rising GDP of most | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
people -- if most people are worse off? What is positive about seeing | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
the national living wage revised down again? What is positive about | :02:37. | :02:43. | |
more downward revisions to wage forecasts? How can anyone describe | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
an economy as much bit when people in that -- match fit when people in | :02:48. | :02:54. | |
that economy are seeing their wages fall again and again? Wages are | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
still worth today less than they were nine years ago. The disposable | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
income is less than it was before the financial crisis. The official | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
forecasts are clear. Working people now, as a result of this | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
Government's choices and this Government's budget will be worse | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
off. Official forecasts suggest they will be ?500 a year worse off in | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
2021 and predicted in the Autumn Statement. Average earnings are | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
expected to be lower in 2022 than they were before yesterday's budget. | :03:28. | :03:32. | |
Average earnings are only expected to return to their pre-crisis peaked | :03:33. | :03:39. | |
at best by the end of 2022. The Chancellor also claimed in one press | :03:40. | :03:43. | |
release that this is an economy built on resilience. It's an | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
economy, to be frank, built on sand. Unsecured borrowing by households | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
have shot up to levels not seen since before the financial crisis. | :03:53. | :03:58. | |
This should be a warning sign to all of us. The budget responsibility | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
office shows unsecured household borrowing to a shopping 47% of | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
household income by the end of the decade. For many people today, this | :04:08. | :04:15. | |
extra borrowing will be, to be frank, out of desperation as prices | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
rise and wages fail to keep up. Many people are digging themselves to get | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
-- deeper into debt just to get by. The Chancellor says he doesn't want | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
to put the economy on a credit card. But that's exactly what he's doing | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
and his policies are doing, forcing ordinary people onto dependence on | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
their credit card. There's no resilience in an economy that is | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
funding -- failing in its fundamentals. Business investment | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
fell last year for the first time since the depths of the last | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
reception. Companies are cancelling planned investment because they are | :04:51. | :04:53. | |
terrified about what the future holds under this Government, | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
particularly with the rest of Brexit. They have seen seven years | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
wasted on the industrial strategy they need from this Government and | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
now they are fearful of its plans for Brexit. So productivity growth, | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
the engine for prosperity, has stagnated. We are lagging behind | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
several economies. A typical British worker takes five days to produce | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
what their German or French counterpart takes four. He failed to | :05:22. | :05:29. | |
provide any new funding to deal with that. Worse than that, public sector | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
investment will actually be ?2.3 billion less over the next five | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
years than planned in the Autumn Statement. And yes, people | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
celebrated International Women's Day, and there were calls for a | :05:42. | :05:48. | |
budget that works for women but they have been ignored. Women are still | :05:49. | :05:54. | |
bearing the brunt of the Tory agenda, with 86% of cuts falling on | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
women, a figure changed -- unchanged from last year, and the Government | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
ignored once again the hundreds of women who turned up yesterday to | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
lobby Parliament. Things are as bad as ever under this Government for | :06:09. | :06:15. | |
women, so we urge them to publish the true impact of that budget on | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
women and how they intend to reverse that. Under Labour, all budgets will | :06:21. | :06:28. | |
be gender audited to make sure that we have an economy that works for | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
all. Let me turn onto some of the policy announcements in the budget. | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
Let's turn to self-employment. The Chancellor's decision to push a tax | :06:37. | :06:50. | |
rise makes little sense... We need to find new ways to reward | :06:51. | :06:57. | |
entrepreneurs and risk-takers in our tax system. Does he accept that the | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
difficulty is there's no way of distinguishing at present between | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
such a person and, say, a professional like perhaps a | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
journalist who has sought an arrangement with their editor to pay | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
them a self-employed? That is the difficulty. But with respect to the | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
low paid, 60% of those who are self-employed will actually see a | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
reduction, taking into account class two. He raises are valid point with | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
regards to bogus self-employment which we thought the Chancellor | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
might even have mentioned yesterday in his statement. He never even | :07:34. | :07:35. | |
referred to it and it's something which needs to be addressed because | :07:36. | :07:41. | |
there are many people forced into self-employment or manipulated into | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
self-employment and bogus self-employment does need to be | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
tackled and we have been campaigning for that, along with a number of | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
organisations including trade unions at the Federation of Small | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
Businesses. What we saw yesterday was middle and low earners hit. | :07:54. | :08:04. | |
Someone on ?20,000 will lose about ?250 a year. Someone on ?40,000 a | :08:05. | :08:06. | |
year will lose about ?460 a year. They are the consequences and I | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
don't think they are high earners. They are middle to low earners who | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
should be protected, particularly at a time when there is frailty in the | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
economy. Spending is dipping at the moment and if you are at the front | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
of consumer spending dipping, it will largely be those sole traders, | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
those small traders out there at the moment, the window cleaners, drivers | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
and others who will be hit. This is both wrong and also the wrong time | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
to be putting their careers, their jobs in jeopardy. The justification | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
for yesterday's policy just doesn't stand up. You can't demand more | :08:41. | :08:47. | |
taxes of people without offering something in return. This party is | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
fully behind looking at how the Labour market is changing. The | :08:52. | :08:54. | |
honourable gentleman is right on that. My colleague, the Shadow | :08:55. | :09:00. | |
Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, spoke last year about the | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
principles which should guide such changes. We have raised the problem | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
of bogus self-employment regularly... I give way. Does he | :09:09. | :09:15. | |
also share my view that a lot of these people on low pay in | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
self-employment also get no protection against termination of | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
employment, no holiday pay and no sick pay? I will give a quick | :09:24. | :09:29. | |
anecdote. A worker sat next to me on the tube a month ago as he was going | :09:30. | :09:35. | |
on night shift. He used to work for a company that went bust as the | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
skilled rail maintenance worker. He is now employed by an agency and | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
doesn't know whether he will have work tomorrow or the next day, he | :09:44. | :09:49. | |
gets no sick pay, no holiday pay, he has deep get an accountant to cover | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
his tax and salary payments and that the same time he can be sold on from | :09:54. | :10:00. | |
agency to agency. That is not real self-employment. That is | :10:01. | :10:02. | |
exploitation of someone who has been forced into self-employment and | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
issues must be addressed in that way. The insecurity not just in the | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
league economy but also because of what has happened in recent years | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
forcing people into self-employment. Those issues were not even addressed | :10:15. | :10:21. | |
yesterday. There is a problem of employers shirking their | :10:22. | :10:23. | |
responsibilities by forcing staff into self-employment in that way. We | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
did not get a package of measures yesterday designed to address the | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
problems in the modern world of work. It was a single, unilateral | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
tax hike for the self-employed three people earning over ?8,000 being | :10:35. | :10:44. | |
hit. -- because people earning over ?8,000 will be hit. The Chancellor | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
tried to that shade over this by announcing the abolition of class | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
two. This is a tax hike of ?2 billion targeted at the seldom void. | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
That is clear. Increasing the taxes paid by the self-employed does not | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
move them to parity with the self-employed because they do not | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
receive the same benefits as the employed. The Chancellor says he is | :11:07. | :11:21. | |
closing this gap but he -- we do not believe this gap should fall on some | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
of the lowest paid, most honourable and precarious in our society. I | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
wonder if he agrees with the Croydon Conservative councillor James | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
Thompson who tweets, disgusted by this so-called Tory Government | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
hitting the self-employed? I find what's interesting is that the | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
response to yesterday's statement has been one of anxiety right across | :11:45. | :11:49. | |
the political spectrum. I am hoping the Chancellor is listening. I am | :11:50. | :11:52. | |
hoping that both the Labour Party and other parties in this House will | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
combined with some conservatives who are concerned in this way and we can | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
force the Chancellor to think again. Let me just, if I can press on, the | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
Chancellor, as I said, is concerned about the gap between different | :12:07. | :12:09. | |
contribution rates, that is what he said. We do not believe that | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
actually the burden for closing the gap should fall on the most low paid | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
workers. And this is the consequence of that decision yesterday. They are | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
making the minicab drivers pay more, so they are taxing, let's call it | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
the Uber drivers, was that the same time they are cutting the taxes of | :12:28. | :12:29. | |
Uber it self. A hairdresser earning ?15,000 a year | :12:30. | :12:41. | |
will be 100 of it. That cannot be fair. That just cannot be right. -- | :12:42. | :12:48. | |
?137 worse off. It is a manifest their betrayal. There was a promise | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
and it read like this: this means that we can commit to no increases | :12:55. | :13:00. | |
in VAT, income tax or National Insurance. Taxes on working people. | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
This will harm our economy, reduce living standards and cost jobs. Not | :13:07. | :13:15. | |
me, not Labour MPs, Tory manifesto. The government has been trying to | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
muddy the waters by talking about a bill they brought forward in 2015. | :13:20. | :13:27. | |
This was a bill that sought to cap contributions will Class one and | :13:28. | :13:30. | |
Labour supporter there. They did not even allude to the fact any other | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
classes would see increases. The Chief secretary said this: we do not | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
have further proposals other than those we previously set out. That | :13:39. | :13:45. | |
was what was said at committee. Some have tried also to portray the tax | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
as progressive but what is progressive of raising taxes for low | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
paid drivers while the government goes ahead with cuts to capital | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
gains tax for a tiny few? What is progressive about raising taxes for | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
low paid self-employed cleaners while the wealthiest families got a | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
tax cut in inheritance tax question of what is progressive about raising | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
taxes for plumbers while multinational corporations see tax | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
bills slashed every year? What is its ?70 billion of tax giveaways for | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
the wealthiest and corporations while hiking taxes on middle and low | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
earners. And just because the higher paid would pay a bit more that | :14:27. | :14:29. | |
doesn't make it right for the government to club those on low | :14:30. | :14:32. | |
incomes to plug a gap in their finances. It is interesting the | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
government has promised a review of the tax hikes already scheduled. So | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
it may well be there as jam tomorrow, maybe if you choose to | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
believe the government. But who would actually believe the | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
government after breaking a clear manifesto promise? This government | :14:53. | :14:55. | |
could not have made its interests more clear. If hiking self-employed | :14:56. | :15:02. | |
taxes while slashing taxes for the corporations. And I just quote the | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
Federation of Small Businesses. And it says this: increasing this tax | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
burden effectively funded by a reduction in corporation tax over | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
the same period simply is the wrong way to go. I agree. And meanwhile | :15:17. | :15:22. | |
the government's small incremental reforms to business rates fall far | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
short of the radical long-term reform that is needed. They are just | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
trying a delaying tactic. But business rates are a ticking time | :15:32. | :15:34. | |
bomb threatening to destroy many of our town centres. This to be frank | :15:35. | :15:39. | |
is a government of the giant corporations and tax avoidance. It | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
is not the government for workers. Not the government for the | :15:43. | :15:46. | |
self-employed. And not a government for small businesses. Let me turn to | :15:47. | :15:54. | |
the social care system. And the announcements yesterday. Our social | :15:55. | :16:01. | |
care system is in crisis. In crisis. I have a nematode with my own | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
constituent I visited with last week. A young woman looking after | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
her father who has had seven strokes and a mother with dementia. Trying | :16:09. | :16:12. | |
to hold down a job and cannot get the care. As a result cut hours and | :16:13. | :16:18. | |
that renders the income into her own families extremely tight and | :16:19. | :16:23. | |
difficult. That is one example in my constituency that is repeated across | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
the country. According to the King 's fund, social care is ?2 billion, | :16:28. | :16:35. | |
now. Now. Just to cope with the emergency. And the Chancellor just | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
failed to grasp the whole scale of the crisis. The money announced | :16:41. | :16:47. | |
yesterday amounts to less than a third of what is needed. What I | :16:48. | :16:55. | |
resented yesterday is the media portrayal of the ?2 billion but we | :16:56. | :16:58. | |
were never told until the last minute it is ?2 billion over three | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
years. Nowhere near meeting the crisis. That people are injuring at | :17:02. | :17:08. | |
the moment. There is now more than 1 million people and they are mainly | :17:09. | :17:14. | |
older people, frail people, desperate for social care. They | :17:15. | :17:16. | |
still can't get it. As a result of this failure to address the | :17:17. | :17:28. | |
emergency we are facing. Making a very clever speech but understand | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
this is a political moment because it is the budget debate but does he | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
think sometime down the road both sides can work together not with | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
this model but to get a new model for social care? I always respect | :17:42. | :17:48. | |
interventions from the honourable gentleman because he seems to find a | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
solution... Exactly as my honourable friend has said. This party tried | :17:52. | :17:58. | |
the bipartisan approach, tried hard. The honourable members worked in | :17:59. | :18:06. | |
good faith. To seek a resolution of this matter in the long term. They | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
looked to a range of options. Halfway through those discussions, | :18:11. | :18:17. | |
to be frank, we were betrayed. And it became instead of a bipartisan | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
approach it became a political campaign. I think of the worst | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
order. It was a betrayal of confidence. It would take a lot, to | :18:26. | :18:32. | |
be frank, to regain that confidence that we are willing, willing to have | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
those discussions with anybody, anywhere. But I tell you also trip | :18:37. | :18:45. | |
and last I went beyond political knock-about. It was a betrayal of | :18:46. | :18:51. | |
the older people, the frail and elderly people who desperately | :18:52. | :18:53. | |
needed a solution and their families as well. Because families are | :18:54. | :18:58. | |
imploding as a result of the lack of social care and the moment because | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
of the burden they are suffering. The women's budget group did an | :19:04. | :19:06. | |
analysis of the budget last year and this and they identified two groups | :19:07. | :19:09. | |
who have been hit hardest by austerity. One was younger women | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
with children. The other were older women. I cannot understand why | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
initially. They explained it was because within our culture still | :19:18. | :19:20. | |
unfortunately the burden of care still falls on women. It is retired | :19:21. | :19:26. | |
women who were then taking and filling the gap of social care no | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
longer being provided. We are always willing to talk to anyone to find a | :19:32. | :19:35. | |
practical solution. It is on that backdrop to be frank of a sense of | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
betrayal from the past. At five feet from the past. Britain I really | :19:40. | :19:45. | |
welcome his commitment to talk to anyone to try to find solutions. He | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
may be where we have launched an initiative with Labour, Conservative | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
and Lib Dem MPs to try and establish a care convention. With the fact | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
that? It seems to me it is absolutely essential we set up a | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
process to establish a long-term settlement. The process of bringing | :20:03. | :20:09. | |
MPs together as individuals, not as party representatives. We will look | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
forward to any browser that come forward and if we can find a | :20:14. | :20:16. | |
practical way forward we certainly will. The most important thing at | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
the moment is we have an emergency at the moment. We need ?2 billion | :20:22. | :20:27. | |
now, not over three years, plus offering. I felt a sense of relief | :20:28. | :20:37. | |
first of all when it was trailed we were going to give ?2 billion. In | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
extreme disappointment. That was never mentioned. Woodley also agree | :20:43. | :20:56. | |
that with the news today with the January figures of those waiting | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
more than four hours for A, 86%, the worst on record, is another | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
example of how we are at crisis point within our health and social | :21:06. | :21:13. | |
care systems? My honourable friend has prefaced exactly what I'm coming | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
to. Not only do the government failed to address social care, they | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
fail to address in any way the crisis in the NHS. It was completely | :21:20. | :21:25. | |
ignored. We were warning, not just ours, others were warning ahead of | :21:26. | :21:30. | |
the Autumn Statement that the NHS was in crisis. It was in crisis | :21:31. | :21:33. | |
before the winter. But the Chancellor can find a single penny | :21:34. | :21:39. | |
for the NHS in the Autumn Statement. The Royal College of Nursing now | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
says NHS is in its worst crisis ever. Ahead of the budget the BMA | :21:43. | :21:50. | |
called for another ?10 million and a smile friend has just said today | :21:51. | :21:55. | |
they are times I've got worse. More people are waiting longer and it is | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
astonishing that this time in the budget there was a compass complete | :22:01. | :22:06. | |
failure to organise the skill of the crisis. -- as my honourable friend | :22:07. | :22:10. | |
just said Class two waiting times have got worse. Instead we have ?100 | :22:11. | :22:17. | |
million to enable GPs to triage in accident and emergency. Mr Speaker, | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
the capital spend will be building rooms for GPs in hospitals with no | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
GPs to staff them. Because there was no revenue funding associated with | :22:27. | :22:33. | |
that proposal. I just ask the government... , I am grateful to the | :22:34. | :22:40. | |
Shadow Chancellor for giving way. It is not just the immediate crisis in | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
the images, it is preventable future crises that will cover long-term | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
conditions like diabetes for example. This seems to be no | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
planning for the future. It seems to me we have missed an opportunity to | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
invest in intervention that would save the taxpayer an enormous mass | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
of money in the future. My honourable friend, part of his | :23:08. | :23:10. | |
campaign, he has stuck with this for years, I can remember him saying | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
this some years ago under the previous Secretary of State and | :23:15. | :23:17. | |
there were assurances given about the investment in preventative | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
medicine. And what happened was a reorganisation, and the money was | :23:22. | :23:27. | |
lost. I congratulate him for his campaign and I regret he has had to | :23:28. | :23:30. | |
continue it. Certainly in terms of the investment we need investment in | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
preventative health and will need emergency funding for the NHS | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
itself. I just returned to read. It just shows the difference in values. | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
Investment in the NHS on the site, tax giveaway over the next five | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
years to those who need it least. People suffering in just need social | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
care. People are dying because of the decisions of this government and | :23:55. | :23:56. | |
because of their failure to address them but also their prioritisation | :23:57. | :24:07. | |
of tax cuts for big corporations. Then we come onto education and | :24:08. | :24:10. | |
skills. The Chancellor claimed this is a budget for young and four | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
skills. He waxed lyrical about the need to provide decent chances in | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
life for all. These are sentiments we share. Extra funding for training | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
is of course welcome. But the ?500 million of additional skills funding | :24:25. | :24:27. | |
is nowhere near enough to undo the damage of seven years of this | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
government. Adult skills funding is falling by 54% since 2010, a cut of | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
1.36 billion. ?500 million does not come close to reversing the damage. | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
The Chancellor is providing ?1 billion for the vanity project | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
results. It is more money for a ludicrous throwback to grammar | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
schools. Thousands of hours wasted on schemes for a tiny handful of | :24:52. | :24:56. | |
privileged children leaving the rest to fail. It is the same old Tories. | :24:57. | :25:01. | |
Real term funding cuts for state schools and 95% of our children use | :25:02. | :25:08. | |
those. The first cuts since when? Since the last Conservative | :25:09. | :25:15. | |
government. 50s throwback fantasy is not how you run a modern educational | :25:16. | :25:20. | |
system. Finally, Madam Deputy Speaker, Brexit. The work that never | :25:21. | :25:27. | |
spoke its name in the Chancellor 's speech yesterday. Shopping. The | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
Chancellor was silent on the greatest challenge facing this | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
country. -- shocking. The word Brexit never passed his lips. As | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
Britain prepares to begin the process of leaving the EU the | :25:43. | :25:44. | |
Chancellor had nothing to say on the matter. It should be clear why. I | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
think it is because he does not agree with the position of his own | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
government. The Prime Minister claims no deal is better than a bad | :25:54. | :25:57. | |
deal. This is absurd. No deal would be the worst possible deal. The | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
Chancellor knows that. He knows it farewell. He knows it is a risk | :26:03. | :26:06. | |
because the warnings, just from ours, they come from manufacturers, | :26:07. | :26:10. | |
business leaders, employers organisations, trade unions, and | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
widespread civil society organisations, from economists and | :26:17. | :26:19. | |
international organisations. From every part of the economy the | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
Chancellor is being told that to crash out of the European Union | :26:23. | :26:24. | |
without a trade deal would be disastrous. We would be cut off from | :26:25. | :26:30. | |
investment, we would be cut off from our biggest trading partner, cut off | :26:31. | :26:36. | |
from the skills and contributions of EU nationals who have made such a | :26:37. | :26:39. | |
contribution to our economy and society. It is a disgrace. It is a | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
disgrace that those EU nationals live with in security still because | :26:45. | :26:48. | |
this government will not give them the assurances they need. But this | :26:49. | :26:54. | |
is where the Conservative Party is now setting its course. Prior to the | :26:55. | :26:55. | |
budget... I agree that it was shopping there | :26:56. | :27:11. | |
was no mention of Brexit given that it is the greatest challenge facing | :27:12. | :27:17. | |
the country. Would he also agree that it was shocking that there was | :27:18. | :27:29. | |
no mention of... In the past life of mine, I was responsible for managing | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
European funds for London. I know what contributions they make. It | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
isn't just the contribution they make, I also know how much | :27:40. | :27:43. | |
investment in from elsewhere. I also know what match funding is required | :27:44. | :27:52. | |
and how international development can be used and all that will be | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
lost because this Government will not make the assurances needed. In | :27:56. | :28:01. | |
the Liverpool city region we are meant to Wellcome ?30 million a year | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
for the next 30 years which is 900 million. We have lost over a billion | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
indirect funding cuts to our five local authorities and half a billion | :28:11. | :28:17. | |
in European funding has been granted for the last two rounds of that with | :28:18. | :28:23. | |
no guarantee for anything in the future. There is a real issue, does | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
he not agree with me, that will regional development and regional | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
funding to try to grow our economy is from the bottom up customer I | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
know how hard my honourable friend has fought on these issues and I | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
congratulate her. She has a grassroots understanding of this | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
lack of funding and the applications it will have a particular region and | :28:46. | :28:50. | |
the city. The consequences are staggering. The lack of investment, | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
but also it is the undermining of confidence in the private sector as | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
well to match fund and invest. That is what we are seeing at the moment. | :28:59. | :29:04. | |
And yet in the Chancellor's statement, not the word of assurance | :29:05. | :29:10. | |
to anybody, whether council leaders, business investors or workers | :29:11. | :29:13. | |
themselves. I find it disgraceful and what is interesting, prior to | :29:14. | :29:18. | |
the budget, the Chancellor and allies floated the idea that he was | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
garnering a 60 billion pound fighting fund. It's not a fighting | :29:23. | :29:29. | |
fund, it's a failure Bund. He is having to put aside cash to deal | :29:30. | :29:35. | |
with the consequences of what he knows will be a Tory failure. As my | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
right honourable friend is on the Brexit point, I was concerned, and I | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
wonder if he shares these concerns, that no provision has been given to | :29:46. | :29:50. | |
the Home Office for processing the applications of EU citizens, 3.2 | :29:51. | :29:54. | |
million people. The Home Office has suffered enormous cuts over the last | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
few years and they will simply not be able to deal with the | :29:59. | :30:01. | |
applications that are going to be made. At the moment, there is a | :30:02. | :30:06. | |
seven-month waiting time to get your certificate in order to remain here. | :30:07. | :30:10. | |
Does he not think that provision should have been made for that? It's | :30:11. | :30:18. | |
not just that provision should be made, it's the cuts that have | :30:19. | :30:21. | |
already been established. Whatever system is introduced, it will not be | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
fit for purpose due to lack of investment. Can I just say this. We | :30:26. | :30:32. | |
all understand the boat on the referendum. People voted to leave | :30:33. | :30:35. | |
but we repeat time and time again, they did not vote to trash their | :30:36. | :30:40. | |
jobs or their livelihood or the economy. A responsible Government | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
would make sure both jobs and the economy are protected. A responsible | :30:45. | :30:47. | |
budget ahead of article 50 would show how the Government would | :30:48. | :30:52. | |
protect both. The Chancellor has a responsibility here and he failed to | :30:53. | :30:58. | |
deliver on it. Let me just conclude, the Chancellor dared to talk | :30:59. | :31:01. | |
elsewhere about the difficulty in decisions he had to make. It's not | :31:02. | :31:08. | |
him making the difficult decisions. It's the NHS manager in a hospital | :31:09. | :31:11. | |
is deciding whether someone can have a bed or a trolley. It's a Police | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
Commissioner deciding which streets will be patrolled. It's a council | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
leader deciding which children centre will be closed. They are the | :31:21. | :31:24. | |
difficult decisions. Not the Chancellor 's. He is passing the | :31:25. | :31:29. | |
buck to others for his own cuts. He lives in a world completely | :31:30. | :31:33. | |
insulated from the consequences of his decisions. He can fit in number | :31:34. | :31:36. | |
11 and delete lines on his spreadsheet without a thought for | :31:37. | :31:41. | |
their consequences. For him, it's all in a days work and it's the rest | :31:42. | :31:45. | |
of our society that have to deal with the results. We have had seven | :31:46. | :31:50. | |
long years of austerity from this Conservative Government. The | :31:51. | :31:53. | |
spending cuts have dragged our society to the brink. The suffering | :31:54. | :31:56. | |
has been immense and it is not the Chancellor and his colleagues on the | :31:57. | :32:02. | |
receiving end. It's the victims. The parents who can't get a school | :32:03. | :32:05. | |
place, the young people who can't get a decent home because of the | :32:06. | :32:08. | |
housing shortage, the families who cannot read this and care for their | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
parents. We have seen public services shredded and standards of | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
care in normal life torn up. For what was to mark so they can hugely | :32:17. | :32:25. | |
increased the national debt. So after austerity is supposed to have | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
ended, we can look forward to what? Continuous cuts in public services | :32:31. | :32:37. | |
for the rest of this Parliament. We need a fair taxation system which | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
ensures public resources are invested and long-term public | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
investment in our economy. Something that tackles tax evasion at the same | :32:46. | :32:50. | |
time. We need to grow our economy and make sure that as we build a | :32:51. | :32:55. | |
prosperous economy, it is shared by all and not in tax cuts for the rich | :32:56. | :33:01. | |
and corporations. Yesterday was not just complacent, it was arrogant and | :33:02. | :33:14. | |
it was cruel. Yesterday, the Leader of the Opposition gave us a response | :33:15. | :33:17. | |
which sounded like it was written in a week ago, regardless of what was | :33:18. | :33:21. | |
in the budget. The Shadow Chancellor has just done the same. It shows us | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
all once again that the Labour Party never learns. There is no | :33:26. | :33:32. | |
recognition of the state his party left the country's finances in, no | :33:33. | :33:37. | |
awareness of the millions of lives that have been devastated by | :33:38. | :33:41. | |
Labour's record-breaking recession and absolutely no understanding of | :33:42. | :33:44. | |
the most basic rule of any responsible Government. If you want | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
to spend money, you have to do raise it. If he had been standing on the | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
steps of number 11 yesterday holding up his little red box, he would have | :33:54. | :34:01. | |
come here and announced half ?1 trillion of additional borrowing. | :34:02. | :34:06. | |
Half ?1 trillion. And every last penny of that would have to be | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
serviced and paid off by our children and our children's children | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
for decades to come. Let me explain to the honourable lady how finance | :34:16. | :34:23. | |
actually works. If you borrow money, you have to pay it back. Tens of | :34:24. | :34:27. | |
millions of hard-working Britons know that. They do it every month | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
with their mortgages, their loans and credit card bills, get the | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
concept seems to elude the Right honourable gentleman. Let's hope he | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
learns something today. After all, Madam Deputy Speaker, I am always a | :34:41. | :34:45. | |
great believer in workplace learning. Clearly it's important to | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
get the deficit down. In fact, his Government said they were going to | :34:52. | :34:55. | |
eliminate it by 2015. That's two years ago and in the budget | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
document, it now becomes clear that it may not be eliminated by 2025. Is | :35:00. | :35:05. | |
that his definition of success? Ten years late on a five-year plan. No | :35:06. | :35:15. | |
apology from the right honourable lady during the 13 years of power of | :35:16. | :35:20. | |
the last Labour Government, even -- almost threefold increase in the | :35:21. | :35:24. | |
country's national debt leaving the largest budget deficit of any | :35:25. | :35:36. | |
developed economy. Pity actually tell the House a promise that has | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
actually been kept by this Government in relation to the | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
economy? -- could he actually? I would think that one of the promises | :35:46. | :35:48. | |
that the honourable lady would have focused on is the creation of 2.7 | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
million jobs in this economy since 2010. They tell themselves the | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
Labour Party but they couldn't care less. I give way to my honourable | :35:57. | :36:04. | |
friend. Does he think that the extra ?500 billion worth of additional | :36:05. | :36:07. | |
spending proposed by the party opposite would do anything to | :36:08. | :36:14. | |
increase or reduce the deficit? My honourable friend, as always, makes | :36:15. | :36:20. | |
a good point. We know that their plans, if implemented, would not | :36:21. | :36:23. | |
just result in more spending, but more debt and agrees that deficit | :36:24. | :36:30. | |
and bring us back to another Labour record-breaking recession if they | :36:31. | :36:32. | |
have the chance. I will plough on but I will give way in a moment | :36:33. | :36:37. | |
again. Figures released since the Autumn Statement are provided | :36:38. | :36:40. | |
further evidence of the fundamental strength and resilience of the UK | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
economy. Growth is forecast to hit 2% this year. The deficit is on | :36:45. | :36:48. | |
course to reach its lowest level in two decades. Debt is forecast to | :36:49. | :36:54. | |
begin falling in 2018 to 2019 for the first time in more than 15 | :36:55. | :37:01. | |
years. I will give way. Of course if we borrow money we have to pay it | :37:02. | :37:06. | |
back. Why is there no mention of Brexit given that the OBE are have | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
said the cost of Brexit could be 58 billion to the public finances? That | :37:11. | :37:17. | |
is a huge sum we would have to repay so why was there no mention of it? | :37:18. | :37:22. | |
The Chancellor talked about leaving the European Union. It's one of the | :37:23. | :37:26. | |
best things he said. It's a shame that the honourable gentleman wasn't | :37:27. | :37:30. | |
listening. Most importantly, this success is being felt in the pockets | :37:31. | :37:35. | |
of ordinary working people with real wage is forecast a rise in every | :37:36. | :37:41. | |
year to 2020, 20 21. Britain is home to more private-sector businesses | :37:42. | :37:44. | |
than ever before, providing more jobs than ever before. We have gone | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
from a record-breaking six -- record-breaking recession to | :37:50. | :37:52. | |
record-breaking employment. We are not complacent. There is a lot more | :37:53. | :37:56. | |
to do. Going on a wild spending spree simply because of improved | :37:57. | :38:01. | |
growth forecast would be like going down the pub to celebrate your | :38:02. | :38:05. | |
overdraft being extended. Our focus is on sustainable public finances | :38:06. | :38:11. | |
and that must continue. That is what this budget provides. The Secretary | :38:12. | :38:18. | |
of State is lecturing the House on how finance works. We would like to | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
know how it works in his department. The Secretary of State has denied | :38:24. | :38:26. | |
offering Surrey County Council a sweetheart deal but the BBC have now | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
published a letter from officials showing that they did, in fact, | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
offers Surrey more cash in a unique deal. Did the Secretary of State | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
know about that letter when he issued his denial? The honourable | :38:39. | :38:47. | |
gentleman will no that if he had cared to look on the 29th of | :38:48. | :38:51. | |
February, that Surrey approach the department as did many other | :38:52. | :38:54. | |
councils for a financial settlement, asking for more money. They made a | :38:55. | :39:01. | |
request all were considered for business rates retention plan and | :39:02. | :39:06. | |
that was firmly rejected. I will then I will carry on. Order. Order. | :39:07. | :39:17. | |
If people want to intervene, they can stand up and intervene. We will | :39:18. | :39:21. | |
not have chuntering from a sedentary position. Or rather, let's be honest | :39:22. | :39:28. | |
about it, when you are sitting down, you don't speak in here, otherwise | :39:29. | :39:31. | |
we can't hear who is speaking. One person at a time. Thank you very | :39:32. | :39:37. | |
much for that protection, Madam Deputy Speaker. Much appreciated. | :39:38. | :39:42. | |
Can I thank the Secretary of State for the team Broxbourne last week | :39:43. | :39:45. | |
and can I divert him from Surrey back to Hertfordshire where I much | :39:46. | :39:49. | |
bigger problem is and incinerator application where the awarding local | :39:50. | :39:52. | |
authority is also the planning authority when it comes to that | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
planning application. This strikes me as a conflict of interest and I | :39:56. | :39:59. | |
suspect the Secretary of State cannot focus on this now but did he | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
take that into consideration, this conflict of interest in local | :40:05. | :40:10. | |
authorities? Madam Deputy Speaker, I think my honourable friend would | :40:11. | :40:12. | |
understand that it wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment on a | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
particular planning application but if he cared to banish me with more | :40:17. | :40:20. | |
in the making, I'm sure officials in the department would take a look. | :40:21. | :40:25. | |
Madam Deputy Speaker, I will in a moment, I will plough one further in | :40:26. | :40:30. | |
my comments. By maintaining a robust growing economy we will be | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
well-placed to make the most of the opportunities that Brexit will bring | :40:35. | :40:37. | |
and it will allow us to make additional commitment in the of | :40:38. | :40:41. | |
areas without putting our hard won economic recovery at risk. The first | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
area is adult social care. The true measure of any society is how it | :40:47. | :40:49. | |
cares for its most vulnerable citizens will stop with advances in | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
medical care and an ageing population, many councils have found | :40:55. | :40:57. | |
it increasingly difficult to meet the costs of care in their | :40:58. | :41:04. | |
communities. Because it was on the matter of social care that the | :41:05. | :41:07. | |
correspondence with Surrey County Council was going on, was he aware | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
when he issued his denial that his own director of local Government | :41:12. | :41:15. | |
finance had sent a letter to Surrey County Council offering them a | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
unique financial deal? Madam Deputy Speaker, I think I have already | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
answered that question. For the honourable gentleman, there was no | :41:26. | :41:28. | |
deal available to Surrey that is not available to any other local | :41:29. | :41:31. | |
authority. On a matter of adult social care, I have been working on | :41:32. | :41:36. | |
this issue with my right honourable friend the Secretary of State for | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
Health and the Chancellor. The result is an additional ?2 billion | :41:42. | :41:44. | |
of funding for adult social care. Let me be very clear. Every single | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
council in England responsible for adult social care will be benefiting | :41:49. | :41:56. | |
from this additional money, ruble or city -based, north or south. They | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
will be moving to put packages in place with allocations published | :42:02. | :42:04. | |
later today. This additional money, but they did for 2017 to 2018, will | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
make an immediate difference to people in our communities who need | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
care and support and it will bring the total dedicated funding for | :42:14. | :42:17. | |
adult social care in England to ?9.6 billion over the course of this | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
Parliament. I know this is a novel concept for the party opposite, but | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
more money is not the only answer. This Government is not just | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
dedicated to sustainable economic growth, we also believe in | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
sustainable public services. Demand for adult social care is not about | :42:35. | :42:37. | |
to stop rising. The challenge of paying for it is not going to go | :42:38. | :42:42. | |
away. The ?2 billion announced in this budget will make a significant | :42:43. | :42:45. | |
difference in the next three years but the challenge will not suddenly | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
vanish in 2020. The funding model for adult social care system is | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
clearly in need of substantial reform and improvement. It has to be | :42:55. | :42:58. | |
made fairer and more sustainable. So we are absolutely committed to doing | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
just that. We are looking at all the options than later this year will be | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
publishing a green paper setting out a long-term plan which will ensure | :43:07. | :43:09. | |
long-term I thank my right honourable friend | :43:10. | :43:17. | |
for giving way and the announcement will be warmly welcomed across the | :43:18. | :43:23. | |
country on money now. Before he announces the details for the | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
long-term plan, the short-term issue is of course, is the money new money | :43:28. | :43:33. | |
or money brought forward from later years but I'm up will it be added to | :43:34. | :43:39. | |
baseline budgets so that local authorities can expect to receive | :43:40. | :43:42. | |
the funding each year rather than just a once funding? Finally, the | :43:43. | :43:48. | |
formula by which it is distributed is key because different local | :43:49. | :43:52. | |
authorities are under different levels of pressure. I am pleased my | :43:53. | :43:59. | |
honourable friend has asked me that question. It allows me to say more | :44:00. | :44:06. | |
on this issue. I can confirm that ?2 billion is new money, new grant from | :44:07. | :44:11. | |
central government. Secondly, I can confirm it will be added to every | :44:12. | :44:15. | |
local authority's baseline over the next three years, as the money is | :44:16. | :44:19. | |
distributed. My honourable friend asked rightly about how it will be | :44:20. | :44:24. | |
allocated. The vast majority of the money will be allocated using the | :44:25. | :44:27. | |
improved better care formula that already exists and is transparent | :44:28. | :44:32. | |
and open and it will mean it is able to take into account not just the | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
needs of every local authority but the ability they have themselves to | :44:37. | :44:42. | |
raise money through council taxes. A small portion, 10%, will be | :44:43. | :44:46. | |
allocated using the existing relative needs formula. The purpose | :44:47. | :44:52. | |
is to make sure every local authority that has responsibility | :44:53. | :44:55. | |
for adult social care is able to access new funding. I think it is | :44:56. | :45:02. | |
important the Secretary of State tells us, the vast majority will be | :45:03. | :45:07. | |
allocated by the Better Care Fund. The settlement before Christmas | :45:08. | :45:14. | |
caused problems. Will he say how the rest of the money will be allocated? | :45:15. | :45:22. | |
I thought I had just made that clear but I will repeat it and maybe be | :45:23. | :45:26. | |
more specific. 90% will be allocated using the improved Better Care Fund | :45:27. | :45:33. | |
formula and 10% will be allocated using the relative needs formula. | :45:34. | :45:37. | |
Two existing formula is already in place. There will be further details | :45:38. | :45:43. | |
published this afternoon with the allocations and a description of the | :45:44. | :45:49. | |
formulas. I hope that is helpful. We also need to make sure councils are | :45:50. | :45:54. | |
delivering the best possible local care services. There are many | :45:55. | :45:56. | |
excellent examples of best practice around the country but there is a | :45:57. | :46:01. | |
big difference between the best and worst performing areas. There is | :46:02. | :46:04. | |
room for improvement. Alongside the additional funding announced in the | :46:05. | :46:08. | |
budget, my right honourable friend the Health Secretary and I will | :46:09. | :46:12. | |
shortly announce measures to help ensure those areas facing the | :46:13. | :46:15. | |
greatest challenges can make the most rapid improvement. Looking at | :46:16. | :46:22. | |
health more widely, we are also already committed ?10 billion annual | :46:23. | :46:29. | |
increase in NHS funding by 2020. It goes further still. 325 million to | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
allow the first NHS sustainability plans to go ahead meaning more | :46:36. | :46:38. | |
efficient and effective health care for local people. There is another | :46:39. | :46:44. | |
100 million to fund improvements in A departments for next winter, | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
including better triage and GP facilities, enough to fund up to 100 | :46:50. | :46:55. | |
new triage projects. I will give way. He mentions the 325 million, | :46:56. | :47:03. | |
does he recognise that 1.2 billion was taken out of capital spending in | :47:04. | :47:07. | |
the current financial year and this money will only go to about six | :47:08. | :47:14. | |
areas, leaving the rest of the country without any extra capital | :47:15. | :47:20. | |
spending at all? I know the honourable gentleman cares about | :47:21. | :47:25. | |
this issue, as a minister he was involved deeply and he should know | :47:26. | :47:30. | |
and I am sure he will know that when the Government set out its plans for | :47:31. | :47:36. | |
an additional ?10 billion per annum by 2020, the NHS five-year plan was | :47:37. | :47:40. | |
calling for 8 billion. This goes over and above. The announcement in | :47:41. | :47:46. | |
the Budget yesterday, the additional 325 million, plus 100 million, it is | :47:47. | :47:54. | |
on top of the 10 billion per annum. Does he share my concern that there | :47:55. | :48:00. | |
is not enough emphasis on prevention for long-term conditions such as | :48:01. | :48:03. | |
diabetes? His ministerial colleague on his left is probably the best | :48:04. | :48:09. | |
diabetes minister we have ever had in government and a lot of what she | :48:10. | :48:14. | |
did was on prevention. Why has there not being more money made available | :48:15. | :48:19. | |
for investing in the future, for cutting the taxpayer's contribution | :48:20. | :48:24. | |
in years to come, by setting up prevention centres for conditions | :48:25. | :48:30. | |
like diabetes? The honourable gentleman makes a good point about | :48:31. | :48:37. | |
the importance of public health and I think he is absolutely right to | :48:38. | :48:42. | |
pay tribute to the former Health Minister, now Financial Secretary to | :48:43. | :48:45. | |
the Treasury, for the work she did. I hope he will agree that both her | :48:46. | :48:50. | |
work and others, they have taken this issue seriously and some of the | :48:51. | :48:55. | |
measures the Chancellor talked about in his budget, for example, the | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
so-called sugar tax, this is a measure that in the long-term will | :49:00. | :49:03. | |
help with prevention and especially with issues like diabetes. Madam | :49:04. | :49:10. | |
Deputy Speaker, health and social care are not the only public | :49:11. | :49:12. | |
services we are investing in. The budget finds a further 110 new free | :49:13. | :49:21. | |
schools, free school transport to include... And an additional ?216 | :49:22. | :49:27. | |
million of investment in existing schools. When I was a teenager, my | :49:28. | :49:31. | |
competence of school refused to let me study the A-levels of my choice. | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
-- my comprehensive School. They said it would be a waste of time and | :49:37. | :49:41. | |
I should go and get a job. What I did was I got the bus and I went to | :49:42. | :49:46. | |
the other side of Bristol and I signed up at the technical college. | :49:47. | :49:51. | |
I am proud to call myself a graduate of FTC, the education I received was | :49:52. | :49:55. | |
second to none and without Fulton I would not be standing here today so | :49:56. | :49:59. | |
you can blame them if you wish I was not -- Filton. Many opportunities | :50:00. | :50:07. | |
were opened up by my time there. For years afterwards, I would still see | :50:08. | :50:13. | |
eyebrows raised when I said I had been to a technical college. For too | :50:14. | :50:19. | |
long in this country, there has simply not been parity of esteem | :50:20. | :50:23. | |
between valuable technical education and more academic study. As Business | :50:24. | :50:29. | |
Secretary, I began the process of changing that, including creating | :50:30. | :50:31. | |
the institute of apprenticeships. I am pleased the introduction of T | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
levels will continue that process. We are following the work done by | :50:36. | :50:44. | |
Lord Sainsbury, Baroness Wolf and other experts to improve technical | :50:45. | :50:48. | |
education and in doing so we are investing an additional ?500 million | :50:49. | :50:54. | |
a year in our 16-19 -year-olds. We are offering maintenance loans for | :50:55. | :50:58. | |
those undertaking higher level technical qualifications that the | :50:59. | :51:00. | |
new institutions of technology and national colleges. I will give way. | :51:01. | :51:07. | |
Thank you. Notwithstanding the challenges we have certainly posed | :51:08. | :51:12. | |
on the Budget, could I welcome the T levels and the emphasis on technical | :51:13. | :51:20. | |
education which we have also argued for on this side of the House. It is | :51:21. | :51:27. | |
sending a very important message to young people in my constituency that | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
there is great value in having this alternative but the challenge will | :51:32. | :51:33. | |
be in integrating it in the workplace so it does lead to real | :51:34. | :51:40. | |
skilled jobs in the future. The honourable lady is absolutely right. | :51:41. | :51:46. | |
Can I thank her for her comments? She rightly points to the challenge | :51:47. | :51:49. | |
of making sure employees also recognise these changes and I am | :51:50. | :51:55. | |
sure some of the initiatives which is employer led and will set | :51:56. | :52:00. | |
standards for some of the new technical training will make a | :52:01. | :52:06. | |
difference in making sure employers welcome the new qualifications. The | :52:07. | :52:09. | |
measures I have talked about so far will improve lives across the | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
country but we recognise across Britain local areas want greater | :52:14. | :52:16. | |
control of their service and infrastructure. The Government, | :52:17. | :52:20. | |
London councils and GLA have reached an agreement on further devolution. | :52:21. | :52:26. | |
This includes exploring a pilot for a development rights auction model | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
and joint work to identify what elements of the criminal justice | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
services can be delivered locally. We will be agreeing a second health | :52:34. | :52:42. | |
and social care emoji. There is more to this country than its capital | :52:43. | :52:47. | |
north, raised in the south-west and north, raised in the south-west and | :52:48. | :52:52. | |
I'm elected from the Midlands. Today the Chancellor... I will in a | :52:53. | :52:56. | |
moment. Today the Chancellor is in Dudley launching the Midlands | :52:57. | :52:59. | |
strategy. This follows the northern powerhouse strategy published after | :53:00. | :53:02. | |
the Autumn Statement. I will give way. I am grateful. As he said, both | :53:03. | :53:12. | |
he and I are Midlands Members of Parliament and can I say that I do | :53:13. | :53:16. | |
welcome the focus on the Midlands in this happen to macro budget? There | :53:17. | :53:20. | |
are some useful initiatives in there. -- in this Budget? Midlands | :53:21. | :53:35. | |
Connect is charged with the East-West connectivity and it makes | :53:36. | :53:41. | |
clear that the Midlands engine needs a long-term perspective with | :53:42. | :53:45. | |
investment of ?1 billion per annum over a 30 year period to deliver the | :53:46. | :53:49. | |
potential. What confidence can we have that the long-term commitment | :53:50. | :53:55. | |
will be given? What the honourable gentleman refers to as a Midlands | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
and rightly understands this is about the devolution deal for the | :54:00. | :54:04. | |
region leading to an additional more than ?1 billion over the next 30 | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
years that can be invested in priorities such as transport | :54:10. | :54:13. | |
infrastructure. I believe the right leadership is in place and that is | :54:14. | :54:16. | |
what will happen and that is why I'm supporting Andy Street as the next | :54:17. | :54:23. | |
mayor. Maybe that is what he was just doing! Joining in me in | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
supporting him. This morning we publish details of additional | :54:29. | :54:38. | |
funding for the Midlands allocated, money that will further unlock the | :54:39. | :54:42. | |
potential of the region, funding infrastructure and creating jobs, | :54:43. | :54:47. | |
much of it going to the Birmingham area for example. It includes ?90 | :54:48. | :54:50. | |
million for the North and money for the Midlands and ?220 million fund | :54:51. | :54:56. | |
addressing pinch points on the national road network. The | :54:57. | :55:02. | |
Chancellor has launched a competition for local authorities | :55:03. | :55:04. | |
across England to tackle urban congestion and to get local | :55:05. | :55:09. | |
transport networks moving again. If there is investment in our | :55:10. | :55:13. | |
communities that will make a real difference to the daily lives of | :55:14. | :55:15. | |
millions of people and countless businesses. It is an investment we | :55:16. | :55:24. | |
can make precisely because of the fair, progressive changes we are | :55:25. | :55:28. | |
making to the tax system. We are levelling the playing field between | :55:29. | :55:32. | |
employees and the self-employed and 60% of the self-employed will gain | :55:33. | :55:38. | |
from the reforms. We are continuing to reduce corporation tax on all | :55:39. | :55:43. | |
profitable companies, large and small, so hard-working entrepreneurs | :55:44. | :55:46. | |
keep most of the fruits of their labours. We are taking a number of | :55:47. | :55:49. | |
steps to make business rates for error. I have never made a great | :55:50. | :55:55. | |
secrets of my support for small businesses in particular -- fairer. | :55:56. | :56:00. | |
Seeing my dad's shop struggle was one of the reasons I came into | :56:01. | :56:05. | |
politics in the first place. The heart of campus communities across | :56:06. | :56:09. | |
our country. That is why the Chancellor and I listened when | :56:10. | :56:12. | |
concerns were raised over the business rates re-evaluation and I | :56:13. | :56:16. | |
was happy to work with colleagues across government to secure action. | :56:17. | :56:21. | |
The majority of businesses will see no increase in the macro even a fall | :56:22. | :56:25. | |
in business rates. I know that if your rates are going up, it is no | :56:26. | :56:28. | |
consolation to hear others will be going down -- majority of businesses | :56:29. | :56:34. | |
will see no increase or even a fall in business rates. There are new | :56:35. | :56:41. | |
schemes. The first is additional support aimed specifically at small | :56:42. | :56:44. | |
and rural businesses losing some or all of their rate relief and as a | :56:45. | :56:49. | |
result are facing large percentage increases in their bills. The | :56:50. | :56:51. | |
additional relief will limit the annual increase to the greater of | :56:52. | :57:01. | |
either ?600 or to the cap in existing transitional relief | :57:02. | :57:05. | |
schemes, 5% in real terms in 2017-18. No small business losing | :57:06. | :57:11. | |
some or all of its relief as a result of the revaluation should see | :57:12. | :57:16. | |
its bills rise by more than ?50 a month in 2017-18. The second measure | :57:17. | :57:23. | |
is the establishment of a ?300 million discretionary fund for local | :57:24. | :57:25. | |
authorities to use over the next four years. Each building authority | :57:26. | :57:29. | |
will receive a share of the funding and we will be able to use their | :57:30. | :57:35. | |
share to deliver targeted support to the most hard-pressed ratepayers in | :57:36. | :57:38. | |
their area. It will allow local authorities to more than double the | :57:39. | :57:44. | |
amount they spend on discretionary relief in 2017-18. Finally, a new | :57:45. | :57:48. | |
relief for pubs. This will provide a flat ?1000 discount in 2017-18 on | :57:49. | :57:54. | |
bills for all pubs with a rentable value below ?100,000. My department | :57:55. | :57:58. | |
will be publishing full details later but up to 36,000 pubs, | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
approximately 90%, could benefit from the relief. The cost of all | :58:03. | :58:08. | |
three models will be met in full with new money allocated by Central | :58:09. | :58:09. | |
government. Recent consultations have shown | :58:10. | :58:21. | |
little appetite for the reform. There is scope to review the | :58:22. | :58:25. | |
formation process making it smoother and more frequent to avoid the | :58:26. | :58:29. | |
dramatic increases that the present system can deliver. We will set out | :58:30. | :58:33. | |
our preferred approach to delivering this in due course and consult on it | :58:34. | :58:36. | |
before the next evaluation is due. In the medium term, we need to find | :58:37. | :58:41. | |
a better way of taxing the digital part of the economy so on-line | :58:42. | :58:45. | |
businesses do not enjoy an unfair advantage. It's another example of | :58:46. | :58:52. | |
the way in which this Government delivers lasting reform alongside | :58:53. | :58:55. | |
investment. It is the difference between a sticking plaster and a | :58:56. | :58:57. | |
long-term cure... I will, of course. Can I ask him to address it briefly? | :58:58. | :59:12. | |
The Chancellor announced a green paper dealing with unfair terms in | :59:13. | :59:18. | |
consumer contracts. My honourable friend has looked at the | :59:19. | :59:22. | |
difficulties leaseholders face. One way or another if they are brought | :59:23. | :59:29. | |
into account, so unfair terms can be struck out and those who exploit | :59:30. | :59:32. | |
these holders can be dealt with firmly? My, first of all my | :59:33. | :59:37. | |
honourable friend, can I commend him for the work he's done on the | :59:38. | :59:43. | |
leaseholder abuses. That paper is led by my Right Honourable friend | :59:44. | :59:48. | |
the Business Secretary. It is lease hold and abuses in that area is | :59:49. | :59:52. | |
something we are looking at and strongly considering whether it can | :59:53. | :59:59. | |
be included in the green paper. Madam Deputy Speaker we are | :00:00. | :00:03. | |
developing a whole new strategy to safeguard for the long-term. We are | :00:04. | :00:08. | |
not just tackling the short-term, we are looking at ways to improve the | :00:09. | :00:13. | |
system for many years to come. We are not just continuing to invest in | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
world class services. We asked Sir Michael basher to look at ways to | :00:18. | :00:24. | |
make it more -- Barber for ways to make it more efficient. Every last | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
penny invested by any Government ultimately comes from taxpayers, | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
from hard-working employees and fast-growing businesses. They can | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
only succeed if we have a strong, sustainable economy. Without it | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
there is no NHS. Without it is there are no outstanding schools. No | :00:43. | :00:46. | |
social care for the vulnerable. No support for small businesses. We | :00:47. | :00:49. | |
have all seen what it looks like when Government forget that. After | :00:50. | :00:55. | |
13 years of labour rule their Chief Secretary to the Treasury said it | :00:56. | :01:01. | |
himself, there was no money left. The Leader of the Opposition stood | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
there yesterday and he made promise after promise after promise. It's | :01:06. | :01:10. | |
Fantaty economics. Billions upon billions of unfunded and unatotable | :01:11. | :01:18. | |
measures that will un-- un-- and unstoppable measures, that will | :01:19. | :01:24. | |
unfold. We are cutting the tax burden. We are reducing the deficit, | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
he wants to raise it. Government budgets are big | :01:27. | :01:42. | |
complicated things. At their heart they are simple. If you want to | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
spend more, you have to borrow more, tax more or cut spending elsewhere. | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
Anyone who says otherwise is not being straight with the British | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
people. There's no such thing as a magic money tree. Sustainable public | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
services can only be funded by sustainable growth. This budget | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
delivers both. The opposition would give us neither. | :02:05. | :02:13. | |
In the heated interchanges that took place a short time ago I was | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
wondering if there was merely a private fight or if anybody could | :02:20. | :02:22. | |
join in? I'll take this opportunity to join in. Let me first declare | :02:23. | :02:28. | |
that I am, I take a very different approach to understanding economics | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
than the front bench has. And if the House will forgive mely | :02:34. | :02:39. | |
take a couple of minutes setting out why I see things differently so you | :02:40. | :02:45. | |
can better understand my critics of the particular issue. I am highly | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
critical to an approach to economics which seeks to mimic the physical | :02:51. | :02:56. | |
scientists and imagines through statistical means kit predict the | :02:57. | :03:02. | |
future. Great economists of the past of different religions would have | :03:03. | :03:10. | |
soed at this notion. When at random I open the budget for office | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
responsibility economic and fiscal outlook yesterday, it fell open at | :03:15. | :03:22. | |
page 45, which as I am sure you'll recall, on page 45, it has 3.8 of | :03:23. | :03:28. | |
the effective exchange rate. If you look at that, as I see some are | :03:29. | :03:33. | |
looking at the chart 3.8, you will see that although they can | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
accurately plot the past and you will see wild variations in the | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
exchange rate and very often the biggest variations are not to do | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
with any economic decisions. They are to do with political ones such | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
as the referendum. Look at how they are predicting the | :03:51. | :03:57. | |
future. The future exchange rate, the OBR, is a perfect, straight | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
parallel line to the horizontal. The only thing we know is that that is | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
the least likely thing to have happened to the exchange rate. | :04:08. | :04:12. | |
And so, part of the assumptions that are built in because of this | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
approach make us highly vulnerable to miss-reading the actions that | :04:19. | :04:26. | |
require to be taken. Straight lines rarely predict our | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
human activity undertaking. Therefore it was with some genuine | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
concern that the Chancellor in an opening section of yesterday's | :04:37. | :04:41. | |
speech felt it important to read out spreadsheets and forecasts as if | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
they were going out of fashion. While entirely failing to mention in | :04:47. | :04:54. | |
any depth. He issues challenging the future of the economics in this | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
country. It has been mentioned the failure to | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
adequately address the failures of Brexit, which I will come to in a | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
moment. Allow me to reflect therefore a little on different ways | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
of looking at the economy. And I want to make three basic | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
observations. First of all, the economy's not a machine, but it's a | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
network of relationships amongst human beings. What do these human | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
beings do and what do these networks do? They are built upon a miry Road | :05:25. | :05:30. | |
of collective decisions which are affected by all sorts of I flunss | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
and almost infinite array of influences. -- influences. Not only | :05:37. | :05:43. | |
do we not know the degree, we cannot know the feature with any degree of | :05:44. | :05:49. | |
precision, which detailed. That appear without any margins of errors | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
suggest in them. But we know decisions are critical and I | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
thought, how could I highlight the importance of that and things where | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
the Government could do? I think the best example came to me yesterday | :06:02. | :06:08. | |
when I know with many members I attended a demonstration by some | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
women. Hooer are people who have to face making key decisions about | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
their future. But this Government utterly disrupted the way in which | :06:19. | :06:22. | |
they are able to make rational decisions because giving them | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
absolutely no proper notice about the huge changes they are making to | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
their pensions. So, rather than helping to get some coherence to the | :06:32. | :06:38. | |
economy, to enable people to make as rational decisions as possible, the | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
Government sections have disrupted that. They are disrupting the | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
effective operation of the marketplace in that regard. They are | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
not helping it. But and also we cannot ignore the | :06:53. | :06:59. | |
influence of politics and economic activity and vis sister is a. Egg -- | :07:00. | :07:07. | |
vice versa. To ignore the ins fluns of political decisions. There are | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
two points I would want to make about the effect of Brexit that | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
should have been tackled. One is the disruption to the labour market | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
which can occur because of the failure to guarantee the rights of | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
EU citizens in this country. I'm pretty sure I am not alone in | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
knowing people in my constituency who run small businesses. In one | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
case I know a German couple. In another case someone in the creative | :07:34. | :07:40. | |
sector. And the third example of one or two university researchers who | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
have either already left or are preparing to leave the country. | :07:45. | :07:50. | |
I'm most grateful. He and his party should be commended for raising this | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
issue on so many occasions. It's the practicalities that concern me. EU | :07:56. | :08:01. | |
citizens are extremely worried and distressed about their current | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
position and therefore they need their applications processed. There | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
is no provision in this Budget to allow for these applications to be | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
processed efficiently. There are millions of people who are going to | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
have to go through this system. I entirely agree with The Right | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
Honourable gentleman. Indeed that is a great concern. To myself, as to | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
himself and many others. And I would say it's not just about | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
the efficiency of a system. It is also about the effectiveness, being | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
able to make the right kinds of decisions in complex individual | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
cases. And I've had constituency cases where people have been here | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
for many years and are finding it very difficult to get applications | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
for different things to be undertaken. | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
My honourable friend is making a very good point. It's not just about | :08:55. | :09:01. | |
individuals as well. The impact upon the local economy in an area like | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
mine, which relies on migrant labour for the fruit picking and will have | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
great difficulty if that labour is not available. It will have huge | :09:11. | :09:16. | |
economic consequences as well as personal consequences. I thank my | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
honourable friend for that. That is precisely the point that I am | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
making. What is seen as a political decision to exit immediately has | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
consequences for individuals that we value in our communities. That then | :09:31. | :09:33. | |
has implications for the labour market. When you disrupt the labour | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
market it has economic consequences. So, we can't get away from the fact | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
of the array of influences that are coming to bear because of Brexit and | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
this Chancellor felt the sensible approach was to utterly ignore it. | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
Other matters connexted with Brexit as well which need -- connected with | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
Brexit that need paying attention to. The Chancellor has said nothing | :09:57. | :10:04. | |
about how he'll fill funding gaps whether for rural communities, the | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
agriculture section. These funding gaps that are being created, how is | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
the UK, how is the Government going to address them in general? They | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
have mentioned one or two small instances where they said they will | :10:19. | :10:21. | |
fill the gap. But there's not a general acceptance of that. Here is | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
another disruption that's uncertain and they are not addressing that. | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
So, if I move on to my third area of criticism, whereas the Treasury and | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
OBR offer at different times a snapshot of the economy, people who | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
might call themselves part of the classical economic tradition would | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
see an important feature of the real world is how the market economy | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
operates, which is based on a process of incessant change and | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
growth. Here we see although the Government talked about some matters | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
such as the report, the importance of research and development and | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
stimulating innovation and the like, I don't think nearly enough regard | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
has been paid to the importance of how we will stimulate innovation and | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
by that process stimulate growth in the economy. | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
So, there are practical implications to this view of looking at things. | :11:16. | :11:22. | |
Policies that have happened in recent years of near zero interest | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
rates on the part of central banks and an austerity on part of | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
Governments, specifically protect one group of people while harming | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
everyone else. They boost the prices of assets of the wealthy, while | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
destroying the saving pool of those with modest amounts in the bank. | :11:41. | :11:44. | |
They harm pensions. They penalise savers. | :11:45. | :11:50. | |
These policies represent everything that classical economists have | :11:51. | :12:01. | |
opposed. The further administration of what David Stalknan calls croony | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
capitalism. Let me comment on some of the | :12:08. | :12:20. | |
measures in the system. One of the things that struck me, I was reading | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
an article in the Financial Times newspaper a few days ago, a friend | :12:25. | :12:31. | |
of the honourable member in front, he was saying how budgets used to be | :12:32. | :12:38. | |
supposed to be about tax and one of the things we have as we know in the | :12:39. | :12:48. | |
UK, for perfectly reasonable historic reasons, we have animal | :12:49. | :12:51. | |
must be complicated tax system. I was talking to a Treasury official | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
weeks ago and he was telling me so far he had found more than 1100 tax | :12:55. | :13:04. | |
reliefs in the system. Every tax relief provides an opportunity for a | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
loophole. It is not surprising estimates vary between 36 billion | :13:10. | :13:13. | |
and 70 billion tax gap in the economy. Giving the changing nature | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
a tax system based on what happened a tax system based on what happened | :13:20. | :13:27. | |
150 years ago? There has to be a time coming very soon when we have | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
to look systematically at the entire tax system with a view not just to | :13:32. | :13:40. | |
simplify it, but to make it fit for purpose for the types of economy and | :13:41. | :13:40. | |
labour market we have today? I was labour market we have today? I was | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
disappointed there was no reference to that. There have been excellent | :13:45. | :13:48. | |
points already made about the problem of the self-employed. I will | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
not spend too long on it. Let me make one point to the Government. | :13:56. | :14:01. | |
Before I entered this Parliament, for 30 years, I ran different small | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
research companies and the like. I'm getting paid latterly in the last | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
few years, I decided I was going to take life a bit easier, sometimes! I | :14:13. | :14:25. | |
stopped having a limited company and I was simply running it with | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
associates and individuals and putting the jobs I found | :14:29. | :14:33. | |
interesting. I applied for one with the Government and the Government | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
said I could not be considered for the job unless I became a limited | :14:38. | :14:46. | |
company. The procurement processes of the UK Government encourage | :14:47. | :14:49. | |
people to do what they have said in this budget they do not want them to | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
do. Not only... If you are going to move down this route of sorting out | :14:56. | :15:02. | |
this part of the economy, might it be a good idea that the off practice | :15:03. | :15:10. | |
what it is preaching and tries to sort out its procurement policy? -- | :15:11. | :15:18. | |
BOGOF practices. -- though Government. We have heard the | :15:19. | :15:25. | |
Government making policy amounts and -- announcements were the labour | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
market is like the inner city. My thoughts did not come to the city of | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
Glasgow or London and how the labour markets operate there, I was | :15:37. | :15:40. | |
thinking about my friends in the Highlands, knowing their reliance on | :15:41. | :15:45. | |
the type of self-employment who do not have a choice, they cannot | :15:46. | :15:49. | |
choose to work for other corporations that do not exist. They | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
are a necessity entrepreneur. They do not work in one site. They have | :15:54. | :16:01. | |
long travelling times. They also have absolutely none of the security | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
people would have in employment. This government thinks it is a good | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
idea all of a sudden to burden them in the way in which they are | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
choosing, I cannot see how on earth that is going to get any support to | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
local economies the length and breadth of this country. I think we | :16:21. | :16:26. | |
need to see much more effective analysis of these matters. Of | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
course, being a Scot, I am particularly concerned about the | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
state this government is in, given state this government is in, given | :16:37. | :16:49. | |
what we face in the future, if ever there was a bad time to make it more | :16:50. | :16:53. | |
expensive to buy whiskey, this is it. Surely we do not want to start | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
by penalising one of the most effective products produced in this | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
land, one of the most effective ones that is absolutely essential, not | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
just for the Scottish economy, makes a massive contribution to the | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
economy of the whole of the United Kingdom. I know there are many | :17:12. | :17:18. | |
people who want to take part in this debate. Let me finally come back to | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
one group I mentioned before and that is the way in which I see the | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
economy at its heart, this is about a collective human endeavour. You | :17:29. | :17:35. | |
cannot understand economics abstractly, you have to understand | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
it in terms of the effect it has on individual human beings and families | :17:40. | :17:45. | |
and communities. If ever there was an example of how this government | :17:46. | :17:48. | |
has departed from that genuine concern about the humanity which | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
should be at the centre of our concerns about the economy, it is | :17:54. | :18:02. | |
surely their malicious treatment... I think we have a long way to go. A | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
privilege to be called in this debate. In all the excitement from | :18:08. | :18:14. | |
Fleet Street, it would be easy to forget who it is about. Let me share | :18:15. | :18:18. | |
with the house how many of my constituents will feel about them | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
covered a macro budget, the schoolboy with a first rate | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
technical education who will now have the chance of a better job -- | :18:26. | :18:33. | |
will feel about the Budget. The mother who knows there is a | :18:34. | :18:38. | |
conservative Chancellor at the helm making the difficult decisions | :18:39. | :18:41. | |
needed so her children have well funded public services and a country | :18:42. | :18:47. | |
that lives within its means. For the hard-working people of North | :18:48. | :18:49. | |
Yorkshire, this is a budget that delivers where they need it most. I | :18:50. | :18:56. | |
am very grateful. He mentioned the schoolboy, but how does the | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
schoolboy feel about an 8% cut in funding per student by 2020 under | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
this government? I am not sure I reckon I is that figure. The school | :19:07. | :19:09. | |
budget has actually been protected and what this government is | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
consulting on and very rightly is the inequity in the current funding | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
system meaning constituents in my area are worse off to the tune of | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
hundreds of pounds per pupil compared to a very similar pupils in | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
other parts of the country and I am delighted the government is dealing | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
with those iniquities. Let me begin with small businesses. I will make | :19:30. | :19:35. | |
some progress. Let me begin with small businesses. Given my | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
predecessor Lord Haig was not well documented in these for beer, it | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
will as no surprise to members that pubs are a cornerstone of my | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
constituency's economy. Following in his footsteps is already difficult | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
enough. But it is impossible for me to visit a public my constituency | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
without seeing on the wall a picture of William pulling a pint with the | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
landlord. Not only is it home to more than 200 pubs, I am proud to | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
say it now plays host to the Campaign for Real Ale's 2017 pub of | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
the year. The community owned George and Dragon. Just last Friday, I was | :20:16. | :20:23. | |
delighted to be there when the landlord and his family and team | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
received their reward in the loud company of everybody from the | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
village. In recent months, I, like many other members, raised concerns | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
that the re-evaluation of business rates whisked penalising small | :20:38. | :20:41. | |
enterprising businesses like these. -- risked. I am delighted to say | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
this was the budget of a Chancellor who like any good Barman was | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
listening to our concerns. For the landlords, the jobs that depend on | :20:53. | :20:55. | |
them, the communities that enjoy them, this budget's ?1000 business | :20:56. | :21:01. | |
rates discount is something that will make a real difference to many | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
pubs at a time when money is still tight. These are not only the rural | :21:07. | :21:09. | |
businesses the budget will help. Across North Yorkshire, auction and | :21:10. | :21:16. | |
livery yards have seen particularly steep rises in the business rates | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
because of the idiosyncrasies of their particular companies that are | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
not well understood by officials and the last re-evaluation coinciding | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
with the disastrous foot and mouth epidemic. It is more than even the | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
most ingenious civil servant could be expected to foresee. Auctions, | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
riding schools, livery yards, they are particularly important to the | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
fabric of the rule community. I thank the Chancellor for the | :21:45. | :21:50. | |
extremely welcome creation of the new ?300 million discretionary | :21:51. | :21:53. | |
business rates fun. -- rural community. It will put | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
decision-making back in the hands of communities and allow constituents | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
to benefit from the local knowledge of councils. I will give way. He was | :22:04. | :22:13. | |
talking about pubs and I am a kid pub goer and I was in a pub in his | :22:14. | :22:19. | |
constituency the other day -- Keenan. What about customers who are | :22:20. | :22:24. | |
facing an increasing price of a pint? I am sure he will be able to | :22:25. | :22:35. | |
say how much better off customers are having benefited from several | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
years of freezers in beer duty. The other thing they will like to hear | :22:39. | :22:48. | |
is the new duty rates for Whiteside and still wine to see what can be | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
done to help customers of those alcoholic beverages -- white cider. | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
I would be happy to share a pint I would be happy to share a pint | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
with him next time he is there. I with him next time he is there. I | :23:03. | :23:05. | |
will give way. I thank the honourable member. I have not | :23:06. | :23:08. | |
but I recognise the benefits for been | :23:09. | :23:14. | |
but I recognise the benefits for pubs in my constituency. The hats I | :23:15. | :23:17. | |
could extend the question about the customers in the pubs, many of whom | :23:18. | :23:23. | |
may be self-employed? -- perhaps. Have they reflected with him on the | :23:24. | :23:28. | |
concerns they have about the proposed rise in national insurance? | :23:29. | :23:35. | |
If she will allow me I will come on to that point later on and address | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
exactly what she has raised. The last measure I would highlight in | :23:40. | :23:45. | |
support of local businesses is the ?690 million fund available for | :23:46. | :23:47. | |
local authorities to address urban congestion. Congestion is not | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
something you would ordinarily associate with a rural idyll of | :23:53. | :23:56. | |
North Yorkshire's villages and market towns. The residents and | :23:57. | :24:02. | |
community there are relentlessly frustrated by the level crossing | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
near the vibrant and diverse high street. The impact it has on local | :24:07. | :24:11. | |
retailers is substantial. I have convened meetings of local | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
authorities and Network Rail to discuss plans to alleviate this | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
congestion and I very much hope the Chancellor's new fund can help. As | :24:19. | :24:24. | |
the Chancellor so rightly pointed out, supporting our businesses is a | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
means to an end and not an end in itself. If our children are to | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
benefit from the more than 2 million jobs created since 2010, they will | :24:34. | :24:39. | |
need the right skills. The 2.5 million apprenticeships created in | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
the last parliament are a momentous achievement. We must also recognise | :24:43. | :24:48. | |
that was most people think of apprentices as young people, | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
16-19-year-olds, school leavers, they account for less than 10% of | :24:53. | :24:55. | |
the increase in new apprentices. That means too many school leavers | :24:56. | :25:01. | |
are still sticking with an inappropriate classroom education | :25:02. | :25:03. | |
rather than a first-class technical one. The Chancellor's announcement | :25:04. | :25:10. | |
of new T levels is a crucial step to address the balance and close for | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
good the gap between the classroom and the factory floor for which our | :25:15. | :25:18. | |
economy has paid a high price for too long. I welcome the new half ?1 | :25:19. | :25:24. | |
billion investment in increasing training hours, streamlining of | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
technical qualifications, provision of high work placements and the | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
introduction of maintenance loans. Together, this is a powerful package | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
to help ensure parity of esteem between technical and academic | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
education. I would also urge ministers to continue to look | :25:42. | :25:45. | |
carefully at my campaign supported in the recent industrial strategy to | :25:46. | :25:51. | |
create the Ucas style system of apprenticeships. The branded one | :25:52. | :25:56. | |
stop shop portal would not only end the classroom divide between those | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
applying to university and those applying for apprenticeships, but by | :26:01. | :26:03. | |
bringing everything together in one place, it would help businesses | :26:04. | :26:06. | |
connect more easily with young apprentices in schools. National | :26:07. | :26:12. | |
insurance, like many of us on these benches, I have always believed in | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
low taxes as a spur to economic growth. When a government inherits a | :26:17. | :26:21. | |
deficit of ?100 billion, the greatest priority must be to return | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
to sound finances and do so in a way that is fair. I believe it is right | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
that those who benefit from public services make an appropriate | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
contribution to paying for them. That is what this budget's changes | :26:37. | :26:43. | |
to national insurance will do. 60% of self-employed workers, those | :26:44. | :26:49. | |
earning less than ?16,000, will actually see a decrease in the | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
national insurance contributions by the removal of the regressive class | :26:54. | :26:59. | |
two band. The workers earning up to almost ?33,000 will be no worse off | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
when these changes are taken together with the increases to the | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
personal allowance. For those earning more, the average increase | :27:08. | :27:10. | |
in contributions will be a few hundred pounds. It is right to ask, | :27:11. | :27:19. | |
is this fair? I believe it is. Historically, different rates of | :27:20. | :27:22. | |
National Insurance between the self-employed and the employed | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
reflected significant different benefits and access to public | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
benefits. But that difference is no longer there. Changes to the state | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
pension which is partly funded by national insurance means | :27:36. | :27:38. | |
self-employed workers now benefit from an extra ?1800 annually in | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
pension. It is something they would need to save up ?50,000 foot to | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
receive in the private sector. Self-employed couples starting a | :27:49. | :27:54. | |
family can now benefit from almost ?5,000 in tax free childcare | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
support. I always hear calls in the House for calls for investment in | :27:59. | :28:03. | |
public services. Like this budget has provided for in social care. But | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
those investments need to be paid for. | :28:08. | :28:12. | |
HMC is losing around ?5 million a year from the increasing | :28:13. | :28:22. | |
self-employment. It is right we make changes to ensure everybody | :28:23. | :28:25. | |
contributes to the services we value. It is important that | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
recognise that even after these changes the tax system will still | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
recognise the particular issues faced by self-employed workers and | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
it will favour them in their tax rates and treatment. They will | :28:39. | :28:42. | |
benefit from a lower rate of national insurance. Still not bear | :28:43. | :28:47. | |
the cost of employer's contributions. They will have the | :28:48. | :28:51. | |
ability to offset losses and gains over years and they will still | :28:52. | :28:55. | |
benefit from a more generous treatment of tax deduck table | :28:56. | :29:06. | |
expenses. I -- deduck deductable expenses. | :29:07. | :29:09. | |
To ensure those changes in the economy, in our tax system and make | :29:10. | :29:16. | |
sure everybody is treated fairly. In sum, I believe this is a small | :29:17. | :29:20. | |
change, that is necessary to protect the things we value and a change | :29:21. | :29:26. | |
that is fair and proportionate. Now Madam Deputy Speaker, we have all | :29:27. | :29:32. | |
learned to be a little cautious of economic forecasts, if the OBR is | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
right the first to set their T levels will do so in a country with | :29:37. | :29:44. | |
1 million new jobs and for the first time in two decades national debt | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
falling. This Budget, like the ones before it is building a country | :29:49. | :29:55. | |
where our businesses won't have to pay for the past and our children | :29:56. | :29:59. | |
can look forward to a brighter future. Nothing can be more | :30:00. | :30:02. | |
important than that. I commend this Budget to the House. | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
THE SPEAKER: Point of order, Mr Jones. | :30:08. | :30:14. | |
Yesterday in the regional newspapers there was a report that the Labour | :30:15. | :30:19. | |
Party had, a malicious report, false - the Labour Party had somehow | :30:20. | :30:25. | |
entered into an arrangement with the British National Party. This was | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
raised in business questions by the member for pen tell. Having spoken | :30:31. | :30:36. | |
to the leader in Pendel, no such deal has taken place, in fact the | :30:37. | :30:41. | |
leader never spoke to the BNP in eight years and the Labour Party | :30:42. | :30:45. | |
doesn't speak to the British National Party. These reports, they | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
should be corrected. I wondered how best to go about that. | :30:51. | :30:56. | |
THE SPEAKER: I can quite understand why the honourable gentleman wishes | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
to make his point of order, but, as he knows, and the House appreciates, | :31:00. | :31:05. | |
it is not a point which can be dealt with by the chair. However, the | :31:06. | :31:09. | |
question he asks me, is how can he set the record straight? And my | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
simple answer is, he's done so. And I am sure that his setting straight | :31:15. | :31:20. | |
of the record will be properly recorded in Hansard. | :31:21. | :31:26. | |
It is a pleasure to follow the honourable gentleman, the member for | :31:27. | :31:34. | |
rich ond in Yorkshire -- Richmond in Yorkshire, my home county, to his | :31:35. | :31:39. | |
Budget speech. The last time I was in his neck of the woods it wasn't | :31:40. | :31:45. | |
to go to a pub, it was actually, as many of my honourable friends in | :31:46. | :31:49. | |
this House seem to have done, it was actually to fight the by-election | :31:50. | :31:55. | |
that his predecessor fought and won. And I remember very much wondering | :31:56. | :32:05. | |
forlornly up a village with my then, much-missed colleague Mo Mowlem, | :32:06. | :32:11. | |
door knocking in his constituent, doing the entire village and not | :32:12. | :32:16. | |
finding a single Labour voter. I think the honourable gentleman is | :32:17. | :32:24. | |
firmly there in Richmond, pending an electrical earthquake and of course | :32:25. | :32:29. | |
they do happen. I was very disappointed with the Chancellor's | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
statement yesterday. His first Budget I think did not raise nearly | :32:34. | :32:39. | |
seriously enough to the challenges with face our country in these times | :32:40. | :32:45. | |
of great volatility and change, which we must now confront together. | :32:46. | :32:51. | |
We needed a wider and bolder vision. We needed radical reform to rebuild | :32:52. | :32:56. | |
our prosperity in a post Brexit world. | :32:57. | :33:03. | |
We needed a sustainable plan to deal with our ageing population and all | :33:04. | :33:08. | |
of the pressure that that brings. We needed a recognition that we must | :33:09. | :33:11. | |
recast our tax and benefits systems to deal with the world to come. | :33:12. | :33:18. | |
Rather than the world as it was when Bev ridge produced his blueprint for | :33:19. | :33:26. | |
a welfare state, 75 years ago. Instead we got a Budget which made | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
no mention of the greatest challenges, no mention whatsoever of | :33:33. | :33:38. | |
climate change. No mention of rising levels of poverty and inequality. No | :33:39. | :33:44. | |
mention of public expenditure cuts stretching to the far horizon. And | :33:45. | :33:51. | |
perhaps most surprisingly of all, no serious mention of Brexit. | :33:52. | :33:56. | |
This was an occasion when the Chancellor ought to have set out a | :33:57. | :34:00. | |
bold reforming vision for the UK. But he didn't. | :34:01. | :34:08. | |
He left the grimmest news unspoken. Perhaps he hoped that nobody would | :34:09. | :34:15. | |
notice it. On living standards, the Office for Budget Responsibility | :34:16. | :34:18. | |
revealed something that millions of people in this country already know, | :34:19. | :34:24. | |
that real pay levels have not yet returned to their pre-2008 peak. | :34:25. | :34:31. | |
The Autumn Statement, revised down the forecast for real earnings by | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
?1,000 by 2020. And this Budget does nothing to change that. | :34:36. | :34:41. | |
This means that workers are facing 13 wasted years of lost earnings and | :34:42. | :34:46. | |
stagnating pay under this Government. | :34:47. | :34:50. | |
And to make matters worse, the Government's flagship promise of a | :34:51. | :34:55. | |
?9 living wage, so called living wage, which in itself was never | :34:56. | :35:02. | |
going to be enough has been revised down to ?8.75. The modest growth in | :35:03. | :35:10. | |
our economy, which is at an historic lows, has translated into real | :35:11. | :35:12. | |
earnings stagnation for the vast majority of people. And the fact | :35:13. | :35:17. | |
that over half of the 13.5 million people who are now living in poverty | :35:18. | :35:22. | |
in this country, the fact that half of them are in work is not a problem | :35:23. | :35:28. | |
which the Chancellor troubled to mention in his speech. But it is an | :35:29. | :35:33. | |
indictment of his Government's record and it is one of the most | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
serious social problems facing Britain today. | :35:38. | :35:43. | |
The Budget papers revealed that consumer debt is now once more | :35:44. | :35:48. | |
exceeding its pre-crisis peak and it is this unsecured debt which is | :35:49. | :35:52. | |
driving what modest growth there is in the economy. The Bank of England | :35:53. | :35:58. | |
is right to be worried about this. But it didn't trouble our Chancellor | :35:59. | :36:02. | |
enough for him to refer to it at all in his Budget speech. | :36:03. | :36:08. | |
These facts along, Madam Deputy Speaker, showed just how much the | :36:09. | :36:12. | |
Prime Minister's just about managing families are being made to shoulder | :36:13. | :36:19. | |
the burden of a painfully slow recovery from the financial crash. | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
Yet there was not enough help announced for them yesterday. | :36:24. | :36:31. | |
On infrastructure and investment the reannouncement of the ?23 billion in | :36:32. | :36:37. | |
the rather grandly named national productivity investment fund, which | :36:38. | :36:40. | |
has been announced many times before, is to be welcomed. | :36:41. | :36:50. | |
But at 2.6% of GDP it remains lower than the levels of infrastructure | :36:51. | :36:52. | |
achieved by the last Labour Government and well below the OECD | :36:53. | :36:59. | |
average. That's going to put us at a continuing long-term disadvantage in | :37:00. | :37:04. | |
a global race in which we are more isolated and at risk than ever | :37:05. | :37:12. | |
before after Brexit. On investment generally, Madam | :37:13. | :37:21. | |
Deputy Speaker the office for budget response, shows that Brexit will | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
depress investment going forward and uncertainty about trade aments will | :37:27. | :37:34. | |
hit ex-exports. This is not a credible platform, | :37:35. | :37:39. | |
Madam Deputy Speaker, from which to launch any serious attempt to | :37:40. | :37:43. | |
prepare our economy for the challenges of post Brexit world and | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
enable us to secure our prosperity for the future. And this is a Budget | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
which continues to hit the poorest hardest. | :37:54. | :37:57. | |
The red book demonstrates that the cuts to public services just go on | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
and on into the future. We're told that the target for | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
eliminating the deficit, which was originally meant to be achieved in | :38:07. | :38:12. | |
2015 may now not be accomplished until 2025. That is a ten-year delay | :38:13. | :38:20. | |
on the original five-year plan. The Budget documents reveal a massive | :38:21. | :38:26. | |
20% cut in the funding allocated to local Government next year, down | :38:27. | :38:32. | |
from 8.2 billion to ?6.5 billion. Now, this puts at risk services for | :38:33. | :38:42. | |
the most vulnerable and threatens to ripple our social fabric ahead. 8% | :38:43. | :38:48. | |
cut in education funding which will threaten to bankrupt some schools. | :38:49. | :38:52. | |
Certainly in my constituency. The extra funds announced for education | :38:53. | :38:59. | |
are ring-fenced for the Prime Minister's grammar school van flitty | :39:00. | :39:02. | |
project. Once again some are left behind, while a chosen through few | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
in certain areas get all the advantages. Once more, unmentioned | :39:08. | :39:14. | |
by the Chancellor in his statement yesterday was a 6% real terms cut in | :39:15. | :39:19. | |
non-pension related spending on social security. Which will hit the | :39:20. | :39:26. | |
most vulnerable hardest. Now the pressures of our changing demanage | :39:27. | :39:33. | |
graphy make it -- demography make it clear there must be urgent reform of | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
our system of social care and social justice more broadly. The changes to | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
our labour market, which are happening on a global, as well as a | :39:43. | :39:49. | |
national and local level, and the profound implications of rapid | :39:50. | :39:53. | |
technological change make it imperative we reform our tax and | :39:54. | :39:56. | |
benefits system to make it fit for the future. We must be willing to | :39:57. | :40:03. | |
look again at the tax base in order to guarantee real security for | :40:04. | :40:08. | |
everyone in our society. Yet, in both these areas, this | :40:09. | :40:15. | |
Government has been caught out by its cynical electioneering attacks | :40:16. | :40:22. | |
on Labour. And its sib anial -- cynical promises to the people. In | :40:23. | :40:27. | |
cross party talks following the Dilnot report on social adult care | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
and agreeing a joint approach to the challenges we face, in 2010 the | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
Tories cynically produced propaganda posters conseeming what they called | :40:38. | :40:46. | |
Labour's death tax. Thus for short-term cynical gain they ruled | :40:47. | :40:50. | |
out the changes we need to make as a nation so that social care can be | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
put on to a sustainable footing for the future. They did the same with | :40:55. | :41:01. | |
what they called Labour's tax on jobs, changes to national insurance | :41:02. | :41:07. | |
contributions and in 2015, they even produced the Tory tax lock. A pledge | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
which it has since emerged was manufactured to fill a hole in the | :41:13. | :41:16. | |
general election grid and it has been described as, and this is a | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
quote - the dumbest economic policy that anybody could make. And that's | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
a quote by the Number Ten adviser who thought it up. | :41:26. | :41:32. | |
She makes the point of the previous claims made by the Conservatives. I | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
have the actual advert here they put out during the last election which | :41:37. | :41:40. | |
make clear any rise on national insurance would cost jobs and hit | :41:41. | :41:43. | |
hard working taxpayers. What's changed? Exactly and the point I'm | :41:44. | :41:50. | |
making and my honourable friend will agree, is that by this cynical use | :41:51. | :41:59. | |
of short-term advantage and the way they have electioneered on it and | :42:00. | :42:02. | |
the way they have campaigned, they are actually making it much harder | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
for us to make the reforms in our tax and benefits system, in our | :42:08. | :42:11. | |
system for social care that we actually need to make as we move | :42:12. | :42:17. | |
forward as a society. It is the ultimate in irresponsibility from | :42:18. | :42:18. | |
the party opposite. Yesterday the tax lock was torn up | :42:19. | :42:28. | |
by the Chancellor and he can dance on the head of a pin and claim it | :42:29. | :42:34. | |
did not apply to class four National Insurance contributions all he | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
likes, but that was not on the side of the bus. No one will ever believe | :42:40. | :42:47. | |
a Tory election promise over again. -- ever. The Chancellor has learnt a | :42:48. | :42:55. | |
tough lesson. If you want to be for the just about managing, you need to | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
have all the tools of government available to you. You cannot tax | :43:01. | :43:06. | |
lock yourself out of all of your options. And end up plugging the gap | :43:07. | :43:11. | |
and social care by taxing the self-employed. Madam Deputy Speaker, | :43:12. | :43:18. | |
they have been hoist by their own cynical petard. On the side of the | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
house we are willing to work with the Government on both challenges I | :43:23. | :43:27. | |
have talked about, social care and how to arrest the alarming rise in | :43:28. | :43:33. | |
self-employment and the precariousness that brings for far | :43:34. | :43:37. | |
too many people. Often it is apparent self-employment, quite | :43:38. | :43:43. | |
often it is very low paid and precarious, and we need to enjoy the | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
self-employed are properly protected with proper access to the | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
protections employees take for granted. I thank my honourable | :43:52. | :43:59. | |
friend for giving way. As usual, she is holding us spellbound with her | :44:00. | :44:04. | |
excellent speech today. I just wonder if she would agree with me on | :44:05. | :44:13. | |
this point. The former shadow secretary for the Department for | :44:14. | :44:17. | |
Work and Pensions blamed the Tory manifesto for being wrong more so | :44:18. | :44:23. | |
than the policy the Government introduced yesterday. Would she | :44:24. | :44:29. | |
agree with me that perhaps both are a problem and both are things that | :44:30. | :44:32. | |
clearly the Government needs to learn from? I agree with what my | :44:33. | :44:39. | |
honourable friend said. I think we are seeing here is a cynical dash to | :44:40. | :44:49. | |
make promises in the short term so that you can be elected and even | :44:50. | :44:54. | |
more cynical campaigning on those promises and the hope that when they | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
have to be broken that nobody would actually notice. But by their | :44:59. | :45:04. | |
actions, they are making it much harder for us to have cross-party | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
support on anything and they have also made it very difficult for | :45:10. | :45:14. | |
anybody to believe any single one of their manifesto pledges again and | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
they are increasing the distrust of politics. That is the legacy of | :45:20. | :45:25. | |
their behaviour in these two vital areas of social reform and tax | :45:26. | :45:31. | |
reform which are vital if we are going to prosper in the future. She | :45:32. | :45:37. | |
is being very generous in giving way. She talks about the mistrust, | :45:38. | :45:41. | |
would she agree one of the things people often say would be that they | :45:42. | :45:47. | |
do not feel politicians understand the realities of life and | :45:48. | :45:52. | |
particularly life for the self-employed? There are many costs | :45:53. | :45:57. | |
on top of what you would normally expect in terms of increased | :45:58. | :46:00. | |
insurance, difficulties getting a mortgage, things you have to pay out | :46:01. | :46:04. | |
for. This government does not understand the reality of life for | :46:05. | :46:09. | |
people who are self-employed. That may be the generous interpretation. | :46:10. | :46:12. | |
There are other interpretations that are about this cynicism I have been | :46:13. | :46:20. | |
talking about. The issue, really, is if you want to make a reasonable | :46:21. | :46:27. | |
reform to the tax system and national insurance contributions, to | :46:28. | :46:32. | |
take away the current tax incentive for either people to self | :46:33. | :46:41. | |
incorporate or to be forced by real employers into becoming apparently | :46:42. | :46:44. | |
self-employed for the tax advantages, then what you would not | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
have done the reform like this, then what you would have done worse say, | :46:50. | :46:51. | |
we are going to introduce these new benefits for them self-employed and | :46:52. | :46:58. | |
we would then take away the tax disadvantages and the tax advantages | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
of being self-employed. Finally, we are then going to bring forward a | :47:04. | :47:10. | |
tax base and system which is much more stable than the one we have | :47:11. | :47:16. | |
now. That could be supported. But it looks like they have changed the | :47:17. | :47:19. | |
national insurance contributions to fill a fiscal hole for social policy | :47:20. | :47:27. | |
and that is a grubby way to behave and it is in breach of their | :47:28. | :47:30. | |
election manifesto. This is not the way the Chancellor should have made | :47:31. | :47:37. | |
this change. I think, Madam Deputy Speaker, the Chancellor may learn | :47:38. | :47:43. | |
about this time, and in this Budget, all we got was green Hammond, rotten | :47:44. | :47:54. | |
eggs. It is a pleasure to follow honourable members and I hope she is | :47:55. | :48:00. | |
not too offended if I say I agree with more Ofwat my right honourable | :48:01. | :48:07. | |
friend from Richmond had to say. I always find the Budget debate... Of | :48:08. | :48:16. | |
course. Just to reassure him, I would have been more offended if he | :48:17. | :48:19. | |
had agreed more with me than with his honourable friend. It is good to | :48:20. | :48:27. | |
start on a point of consensus at least! I sometimes feel that there | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
is a parallel universe when I hear the leader of the Labour Party or | :48:32. | :48:34. | |
Shadow Chancellor talking about the economy and I listened very | :48:35. | :48:37. | |
carefully to the other side on The Andrew Marr Show and he was | :48:38. | :48:46. | |
explaining... The honourable member was explaining the economy was not | :48:47. | :48:50. | |
growing fast enough. In fact, the British economy last year and this | :48:51. | :48:54. | |
year, the second fastest growing economy in the G7, despite the doom | :48:55. | :49:00. | |
and gloom around Brexit. Actually, he needs to look at the very fax of | :49:01. | :49:07. | |
the economy, as we are currently experiencing it. -- facts. He went | :49:08. | :49:13. | |
on to say real wages of falling. I am going to talk about the cost of | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
living pressures. But the official figures are crystal clear. Real | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
wages have been rising since September, 2014, and according to | :49:23. | :49:26. | |
continue. If she would like to continue. If she would like to | :49:27. | :49:31. | |
intervene, I would welcome it. But otherwise, check the facts. Racal | :49:32. | :49:40. | |
doubles of employment, income inequality, lowest level in 30 years | :49:41. | :49:48. | |
fresh wave of investment since the fresh wave of investment since the | :49:49. | :49:51. | |
referendum vote including a commitment by James Dyson... I will | :49:52. | :49:57. | |
give way. I thank the honourable member. Would he also agree that | :49:58. | :50:04. | |
whilst he may be able to cite selective headline statistics, there | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
is a reality from our constituencies and perhaps he would also | :50:10. | :50:14. | |
acknowledge the point made to meet by schools and parents about not | :50:15. | :50:19. | |
being able to buy school uniforms, reliance on foodbanks, that is the | :50:20. | :50:23. | |
reality we need to face? Those are the things our economic policy | :50:24. | :50:27. | |
should be dealing with. I welcome her acceptance of the official | :50:28. | :50:31. | |
figures, that is implicit in what she said. I accept the cost of | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
living pressures, not least with inflation creeping up. Inflation is | :50:36. | :50:40. | |
well below still the headline 2% target the Bank of England set. I | :50:41. | :50:45. | |
will address cost of living challenges and what we should do | :50:46. | :50:49. | |
about it. Living in the real world, the one thing we would not do is | :50:50. | :50:54. | |
chased the socialist pipe dreams because they will do nothing to deal | :50:55. | :51:00. | |
with cost of living pressures other than precipitate a lack of | :51:01. | :51:03. | |
confidence in the economy and falling living standards as we see | :51:04. | :51:08. | |
increasing unemployment. I thought this was the point on which she was | :51:09. | :51:15. | |
going to intervene was to welcome the fact we have James Dyson | :51:16. | :51:19. | |
investing in a new research facility in Wiltshire, Jaguar Land Rover | :51:20. | :51:27. | |
investing in creating a new model to be exclusively manufactured in | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
Solihull. Actually, this wave of investment is coming right across | :51:32. | :51:35. | |
the country. There is, I think, a resilience in the British economy, a | :51:36. | :51:39. | |
strength in the British economy, and we are seeing some fresh investment | :51:40. | :51:43. | |
and into using us about the opportunities lying ahead. Having | :51:44. | :51:47. | |
said that, I want to be very careful not to allow any sense of | :51:48. | :51:52. | |
complacency to creep in. That is what this Budget was about. It is a | :51:53. | :51:58. | |
package. I have never known a budget in my still relatively limited time | :51:59. | :52:02. | |
in this place which has not involved compromises and that is the serious | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
business of government, putting together a package. On all my | :52:08. | :52:12. | |
numbers on all sides are quite quick to allow the positive stuff we like, | :52:13. | :52:18. | |
cuts in taxation or extra investment, but we also have to face | :52:19. | :52:23. | |
up to the difficult decisions. -- honourable members. In reality, when | :52:24. | :52:28. | |
I look at what the leader of the Labour Party said yesterday, and the | :52:29. | :52:34. | |
party opposite, why they are so unfit to govern, they are not | :52:35. | :52:37. | |
willing to face up to the difficult decisions. I will give way. He talks | :52:38. | :52:42. | |
about perhaps not being positive enough about it but a moment ago he | :52:43. | :52:50. | |
tried to give a false impression of the inflation rate. Inflation in | :52:51. | :52:56. | |
recent weeks has potentially risen to 3.3%. That is certainly being | :52:57. | :53:01. | |
shown on the sorts of pressures constituents are coming to me with. | :53:02. | :53:06. | |
Does he not recognise inflation is perhaps much higher than he is | :53:07. | :53:10. | |
suggesting? I would love to have a good haggle over statistics. The | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
fact he said potentially the situation is worse than I suggested | :53:15. | :53:18. | |
suggests he does not entirely have full confidence in the intervention | :53:19. | :53:23. | |
he was making. I am citing the CPI index for inflation which is the one | :53:24. | :53:27. | |
everyone uses from economic forecasters to the Treasury to | :53:28. | :53:30. | |
ministers. If he wants to use a different one, in fairness, it may | :53:31. | :53:34. | |
be the honourable member who is trying to be selective. Let us look | :53:35. | :53:41. | |
at what the Government proposed. We continued to cut corporation tax | :53:42. | :53:44. | |
which is critically important not just for encouraging businesses to | :53:45. | :53:48. | |
come here and invest, but if you look at the Centre for Policy | :53:49. | :53:52. | |
Studies report, it is a good way of generating additional revenue | :53:53. | :53:56. | |
because it is a dynamic tax cut. We want more revenue because not just | :53:57. | :54:03. | |
to spur business growth but also to pay for that precious things we want | :54:04. | :54:07. | |
in our society and public services and things like social care. That is | :54:08. | :54:11. | |
why you need a strong economy and you need to keep making sure we are | :54:12. | :54:17. | |
at the very most cutting-edge of our competitiveness in this country. | :54:18. | :54:20. | |
That is where I'm afraid is the Achilles heel of the opposition. | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
They have no sense of what credible economics looks like. I would be | :54:27. | :54:30. | |
delighted to see the Government address the issue of business rates | :54:31. | :54:35. | |
and the ?400 million package to ease the transition towards reform of the | :54:36. | :54:40. | |
wider business rates system and in particular to make sure smaller | :54:41. | :54:44. | |
businesses on the high street are not unduly affected or penalised by | :54:45. | :54:49. | |
the changes. I know from my own experience of a particularly in a | :54:50. | :54:55. | |
constituency like mine which is a constellation of towns and villages, | :54:56. | :54:59. | |
with a very strong high street, but with a disproportionate number of | :55:00. | :55:03. | |
smaller businesses, the measures we are taking to ease the transition on | :55:04. | :55:07. | |
business rates are going to be very well received. We want to make sure | :55:08. | :55:11. | |
the high street is able to compete with online businesses and I was | :55:12. | :55:15. | |
pleased to see the Chancellor directly address that yesterday. | :55:16. | :55:20. | |
From the measures to stimulate the economy and make sure we are at our | :55:21. | :55:27. | |
most competitive, there are also the significant investments in skills. | :55:28. | :55:31. | |
We have record levels of investments in our schools. We have seen fresh | :55:32. | :55:40. | |
money allocated towards new schools and existing schools. The truth is, | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
if honourable members on a thick, and I listened very carefully to | :55:45. | :55:49. | |
what the honourable lady said -- honourable members opposite, and I | :55:50. | :55:52. | |
listened very carefully to what the honourable lady said, we have 1.8 | :55:53. | :55:58. | |
million more children studying in state schools deemed good or | :55:59. | :56:04. | |
outstanding. That is probably the accomplishment of this government | :56:05. | :56:08. | |
that I am most proud of. How do we build on it? We want to make sure we | :56:09. | :56:13. | |
have a new wave of grammar schools so the academically gifted, no | :56:14. | :56:16. | |
matter their background, whether humble background, council estate, | :56:17. | :56:21. | |
so that they have the opportunity to make the best of their talents. It | :56:22. | :56:26. | |
is also about making sure the bright but not necessarily bookish have a | :56:27. | :56:29. | |
vocational route through technical training to make sure every child, | :56:30. | :56:34. | |
no matter what their disposition, but have talent, hard work, graft, | :56:35. | :56:39. | |
got something about them, they can make the very best of their | :56:40. | :56:42. | |
individual abilities and that is what was so I think positive about | :56:43. | :56:58. | |
the package put forward yesterday. Madam Deputy Speaker, aside from the | :56:59. | :57:02. | |
issue of schools and education which of course is important for Skilling | :57:03. | :57:06. | |
up the economy and driving forward social mobility, making sure we | :57:07. | :57:10. | |
build a vision of the meritocratic society and the enterprise economy, | :57:11. | :57:13. | |
there was also many allocated, because we have a government able to | :57:14. | :57:18. | |
take difficult decisions, to go into social care with an extra ?2 | :57:19. | :57:25. | |
billion, on top of the ?10 billion we will be investing in the NHS by | :57:26. | :57:32. | |
2020. In my constituency, a classic Surrey constituency in the sense we | :57:33. | :57:36. | |
have an ageing population, good news, people living longer, but | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
there are health care needs we need to make sure we are able to cater | :57:41. | :57:42. | |
for. Extra money going into social care | :57:43. | :57:51. | |
will first step, there is a longer-term question as to to how we | :57:52. | :57:55. | |
finance, but it was a crucial first step and I know when I look around, | :57:56. | :58:02. | |
at the pockets of elderly poverty that I see even in a relatively | :58:03. | :58:06. | |
affluent place in Surrey, how important it is that we get that | :58:07. | :58:10. | |
support. But it is only there, because we have a government willing | :58:11. | :58:15. | |
to make difficult decisions. Now the honourable lady, in relation to cost | :58:16. | :58:18. | |
of living, I think this is a critically important issue to | :58:19. | :58:22. | |
address. The reality is that it is this government that is raising the | :58:23. | :58:26. | |
national minimum wage to ?7 50, it is this government that has taken 3 | :58:27. | :58:30. | |
million of the lowest paid out of income tax. Let us be very clear | :58:31. | :58:35. | |
about this, the average taxpayer, it is the equivalent of ?1000 each year | :58:36. | :58:40. | |
extra, in their pockets, that is the result of the difficult decisions | :58:41. | :58:44. | |
that a responsible government is able and willing to make. There are | :58:45. | :58:49. | |
further measures in the budget dealing with the tax-free childcare | :58:50. | :58:52. | |
and the doubling of the free childcare for working parents with | :58:53. | :58:56. | |
three or four-year-olds. I'm not sure that I'm illegible but I do | :58:57. | :59:00. | |
have a two rod and a four-year-old and as a member of a two salary | :59:01. | :59:04. | |
couple and team how important it is to make sure that that support is | :59:05. | :59:10. | |
there and I will commit. There are of course in budget difficult | :59:11. | :59:14. | |
decisions, and there are issues and points that I didn't like in this | :59:15. | :59:18. | |
budget much. What the truth is you have to look at budgets in the round | :59:19. | :59:23. | |
and in packages, and I have to say that I looked at the changes on | :59:24. | :59:27. | |
national assurance for the self-employed, I'll be honest, I | :59:28. | :59:32. | |
struggle with that. I am in the business of cutting taxes, not | :59:33. | :59:37. | |
raising it. But the truth is, we need to know how we are going to | :59:38. | :59:41. | |
fund everything that we want to do in the budget. And that is the | :59:42. | :59:46. | |
challenge that any responsible government and any credible | :59:47. | :59:49. | |
opposition has 2-Face. I think the advantage that we have is that we | :59:50. | :59:53. | |
will have a separate freestanding piece of national assurance | :59:54. | :59:56. | |
legislation and I know that the minister who is incredibly | :59:57. | :00:01. | |
assiduous, and very attentive to the concerns that honourable members are | :00:02. | :00:03. | |
raising in this chamber, wants to make sure that we have the package | :00:04. | :00:08. | |
for the national assurance right. The Chancellor has raised the issue | :00:09. | :00:12. | |
for the lack of parity between the way that employed and the | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
self-employed are treated and of course there are advantages and | :00:17. | :00:19. | |
disadvantages to both status and it is absolutely right to make sure | :00:20. | :00:22. | |
that we have the right equitable treatment for both. I had to say for | :00:23. | :00:28. | |
myself I do not want to see us penalising the entrepreneurial | :00:29. | :00:30. | |
people in our society and at the same time I want to make sure that | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
we have a system that is fair and I think we need to be extremely | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
mindful on the side that we don't just satisfy the letter of our | :00:38. | :00:43. | |
manifesto commitments but also the spirit and the advantage of having | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
the freestanding legislation and I can see them on a subscription way. | :00:47. | :00:51. | |
To make sure that we get the right balance on this sensitive issue. I'm | :00:52. | :00:56. | |
going to make one more point, on the other aspect which again, I | :00:57. | :01:01. | |
struggled with a little bit in terms of this budget and that is cutting | :01:02. | :01:06. | |
the dividend for the income for savers, the truth is that we have | :01:07. | :01:11. | |
talked a lot in this chamber, and in government, about the importance | :01:12. | :01:14. | |
given some of the challenges around debt, credit, household debt more | :01:15. | :01:20. | |
generally, encouraging people to save and I do want to make sure that | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
this change, we are not going to send the wrong message, when we want | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
to be incentivising and in courage in savers. I am very honest and | :01:30. | :01:33. | |
upfront about the challenges but the problem is, that all of the things | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
that we want to do from the extra money that goes into social care for | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
the vulnerable and the extra money that goes into skills so that we can | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
drive forward social mobility to the tax cuts on income tax, and, I want | :01:46. | :01:52. | |
to welcome support and reinforce this government's inclination to | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
face head-on difficult decisions and make sure that we get the balance | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
right and not just have a budget which satisfies newspaper headlines, | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
but doesn't stand the test of time. So the government has my support and | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
I know they will want to look at the nuances of some of these measures. I | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
would just say again in contrast, I was very struck by the speech by the | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
leader of the Labour Party yesterday. Because, the truth is, I | :02:20. | :02:27. | |
don't think there was any credible alternative put forward in that | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
speech. It really rather felt like, tilting at socialist windmills and | :02:32. | :02:38. | |
that the leave robbed the Labour Party was lost in a field ranting at | :02:39. | :02:45. | |
the wind. -- the leader of the Labour Party was lost. There is | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
genuinely no credible talented, that is what the public will see, a | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
government bracing its love, taking on difficult decisions and they | :02:55. | :02:57. | |
Labour Party under current leadership that has talked about | :02:58. | :03:00. | |
?500 billion of extra spending that they can't fund. And they pay | :03:01. | :03:04. | |
tribute for the honourable member for Nottingham East, the Shadow | :03:05. | :03:07. | |
Chancellor who has quite rightly pointed out that in order to satisfy | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
this spending commitments, they would have to double income tax and | :03:12. | :03:14. | |
national insurance, no mention of that, doubling of council tax | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
doubling of VAT as well. I'm not sure that the honourable members | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
opposite RNA credible position to start picking holes in one or | :03:25. | :03:27. | |
another aspect of the budget put forward by the government in the | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
absence of a credible alternative. The other key plank of the Labour | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
Party, let me give him his three points and I look forward to hearing | :03:37. | :03:39. | |
his intervention. The other point is the whole concept of the People's | :03:40. | :03:45. | |
squad to sit easing, that they should spend more money on the ivory | :03:46. | :03:54. | |
tower socialist, that is the Robert Mugabe School of spending, and it is | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
far worse than any of the difficult decisions that had to be made in | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
this budget. And finally on the question of the alternatives being | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
put forward by the Labour Party, the leader of the Labour Party has gone | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
on record, and mused about the possibility of raising the basic | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
rate of income tax by 5%. I have got the quote, I won't embarrass the | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
honourable members opposite but honestly, of all the tax rises in | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
the world to be contemplating, the idea that you would raise the basic | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
rate is deeply responsible not just economically but socially. Why | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
doesn't the honourable member talk about your manifesto rather than | :04:34. | :04:36. | |
talking about our manifesto, what about the promises you have broken | :04:37. | :04:41. | |
in your manifesto. Remember, that he is speaking through the chair. I | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
thought the Deputy speaker was going to adopt the Conservative manifesto | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
for a moment. But fortunately, she is has resisted that temptation. The | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
truth is that the shadow minister has made that point, I have just the | :04:58. | :05:04. | |
government that -- I have addressed, what the gunmen said and I have | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
enthusiastically embraced it, but the truth is that the Labour Party | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
is incapable of putting forward a credible package. And I would just | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
say to the honourable gentleman, I will give way at a time of my | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
choosing, not the Labour Party whip's. I would just say to him, if | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
you would like to rise and explain how it would possibly be the right | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
thing to hike the basic rate of income tax by 5%, I give way? I beg | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
your pardon Madam Deputy Speaker, the bottom line is we should be | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
talking about the broken promises from the Conservative Party | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
manifesto, but I would ask, I would ask, wherein a national | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
infrastructure plan urges ?500 billion of expenditure, some public | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
and private expenditure, how are you going to fund that? I had to say to | :05:52. | :05:58. | |
the shadow minister I'm not sure that it is incumbent on me to fund | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
the particular commitments that the Labour Party may or may not be | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
willing to make. The truth is that we had a properly funded budget with | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
difficult decisions to be made. Investments in the right sorts of | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
things, but also, I think he has had plenty of opportunity. I have | :06:16. | :06:18. | |
allowed him to intervene and I look forward to hearing his speech. But | :06:19. | :06:22. | |
the truth is he's unable to answer the question as to how it could be | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
the right thing to raise the basic rate of income tax and again I would | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
just point out that for an average taxpayer, they are receiving, as a | :06:30. | :06:34. | |
result of the extension of the personal announce, ?1000 each year, | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
extra. These have been properly costed, from the ISS to the official | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
figures it very clear, raising the personal allowance, we are putting | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
?1000 back into the pocket at the same time that the Labour Party | :06:49. | :06:53. | |
think not just the Uber rich, we are used to that predictable bugbear | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
from the Labour Party. They also wants. I had to say to the | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
honourable gentleman having taken two interventions from him, the | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
truth is, they will want to put taxes up not just on the super-rich | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
but on low and middle income families and frankly, that is | :07:13. | :07:15. | |
fantasyland. Of course I will give way. Guillem Akai thank my | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
honourable friend, does he agree with me that the budget statement is | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
not just about arcane statistics and numbers. It is about societal change | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
for the better and did he notice, that the number of families where no | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
one works, is at an all-time low under this government. So we have | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
delivered economic stability and also very positive societal change. | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
By honourable friend hits the nail on the head, the key things that | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
governments will do is create the conditions for record levels of | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
employment, real wages rising, inflation needs to be looked at but | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
stable, carefully under control. Even on the worst-case scenarios, it | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
would rise above 2% and then come back down shortly after. And the | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
reality of this budget is that we have got a chance the com his team | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
of ministers in difficult decisions, at a difficult and sensitive time | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
where there is a degree of uncertainty, and coming up with a | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
sensible, measured package. We have the Labour Party talking about | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
printing money, ?500 billion worth of spending commitments, and we have | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
got a government that is committed not to tilting at socialist | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
windmills, by Raggi building a better Britain, from an enterprise | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
economy but also a meritocratic society for our children and making | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
sure that the most vulnerable particularly the elderly have got | :08:38. | :08:42. | |
the social care that they need. Again, if the honourable member | :08:43. | :08:45. | |
would like to intervene on me rather than chuntering in frustration, I | :08:46. | :08:55. | |
give way. I give way. Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker, the honourable | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
member can make up as many full facts -- false facts as he would | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
like to. The fact of the matter is he is making them up. The honourable | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
member should concentrate on his own manifesto, at least all hasn't | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
answered the question, about the ?500 billion set aside in the | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
governments national investment in plan. Where are the Tories getting | :09:21. | :09:27. | |
the money from that? We are mulling over making up. Is. I think we are | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
starting to get quite close to language that is not really | :09:33. | :09:36. | |
acceptable in Parliament. Just to be aware of it. Has ever Madam Deputy | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
Speaker I will be very mindful of your advice and I will curtail my | :09:42. | :09:48. | |
speech, the truth is, budget week is the week for difficult decisions | :09:49. | :09:51. | |
were government sets out responsibilities, will always be | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
picked apart on whichever bit the media wants to pick apart but has to | :09:55. | :10:00. | |
put in place a package, I commend the government for doing this and I | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
know the ministers will be taking on board these things. But the truth is | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
that the comparison between a credible serious government and | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
frankly, a leader of the Labour Party, in opposition which has | :10:14. | :10:16. | |
abdicated responsibility of coming up with a credible of the | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
alternative is for people to see, and also the public at large. Steve | :10:22. | :10:31. | |
Reed. Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker, you are here to see what | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
the government has put forward for the country and it is the impact of | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
that budget that I want to consider, impact it will have on my | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
constituents in Croydon North. Like the rest of the country, Croydon is | :10:47. | :10:52. | |
experiencing a social care crisis, I regularly have older and disabled | :10:53. | :10:55. | |
people visiting my office to say that they can't get home care, they | :10:56. | :11:01. | |
don't get adequate support, and local charities are coming to tell | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
me that the money that they need, has dried up as well. Now after the | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
Chancellor is ignored the social care crisis, in his Autumn | :11:12. | :11:12. | |
Statement, you hope -- we were hoping for better and | :11:13. | :11:20. | |
although 2 billion over three years is a welcome start it goes | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
absolutely nowhere near resolving this crisis. These services have | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
already been cut by 5 billion, since 2010. 26% fewer people receive help | :11:31. | :11:37. | |
today. Even though there are more older people needing that help. The | :11:38. | :11:43. | |
Kings fund projected 2.8 billion gap every year, by the end of this | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
decade. But only 2 billion has been made available over three years. So | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
all I can say to my older constituents and disabled people | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
that come to ask me what the government is doing to help with, | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
all I can say is that the Chancellor has responded to their plight by | :12:02. | :12:04. | |
imposing yet more cuts. It is galling to see the Department | :12:05. | :12:13. | |
for Communities and Local Government offering Surrey County Council a | :12:14. | :12:20. | |
sweetheart deal that is denied to Croydon and people living in every | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
other part of the country as well. It is not only sorry that has this | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
problem, it is every local authority -- Surrey. I regret immensely the | :12:30. | :12:37. | |
Secretary of State failed to answer my question about whether he knew in | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
advance about the letter sent from his department to Surrey County | :12:44. | :12:49. | |
Council offering them a sweetheart deal. We need to know whether he | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
knew about it in advance of it being withdrawn because if he was party to | :12:55. | :13:00. | |
it, the House needs to know that is how he is attempting to operate in | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
his department, and if he did not know about it, the House needs to | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
know he does not have a grip on what his officials were up to. We need | :13:10. | :13:16. | |
answers and I am sure in time we will get them. Particular painful | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
will be the planned hike in national insurance contributions for the | :13:22. | :13:24. | |
self-employed. Croydon North is one of the most ethnically diverse | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
constituencies in the country and unfortunately unemployment is | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
particularly high among many minority communities. But their | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
desire to work and strong enterprising spirit means many | :13:37. | :13:43. | |
people from these communities set up their own businesses. Self-employed | :13:44. | :13:49. | |
people work as taxi drivers, van drivers, hairdressers, plumbers, | :13:50. | :13:51. | |
decorators, childminders, all sorts of jobs. They worked long hours | :13:52. | :14:00. | |
often for modest pay. One in ten workers in Croydon are self employed | :14:01. | :14:06. | |
and it makes no sense to clobber them with tax rises. They need help | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
and support, not further barriers to work. What does he say to the | :14:11. | :14:17. | |
respected Institute for Fiscal Studies and the much respected | :14:18. | :14:22. | |
Resolution Foundation were they are today saying specifically on the | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
measures identified by the honourable gentleman that they are | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
progressive and they are ameliorating inequality in the tax | :14:33. | :14:39. | |
system between people on PAYE and self-employed people? Perhaps the | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
honourable gentleman's party should have thought about that before they | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
stood for election on a manifesto that said no increases on national | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
insurance contributions. Absolutely categoric. It does nothing for trust | :14:53. | :15:00. | |
in politics when politicians say one thing to persuade people to vote for | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
them, but once they are elected, do the polar opposite. You are helping | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
to further break trust in this House and in politics will stop it is not | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
down to the IFS, it is down to Tory Central office, the Prime Minister | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
and the Chancellor, and there I say, he himself if he votes for this. | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
With the uncertainty of Brexit, it is shocking the Chancellor had so | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
little to say about Brexit in his statement, with the uncertainty, | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
small businesses and the self-employed need reassurances, not | :15:34. | :15:40. | |
broken promises. I will turn to those in employment as well because | :15:41. | :15:44. | |
this Budget has very little on offer for them. Low pay and stagnant wages | :15:45. | :15:50. | |
have become endemic. Most people have seen no growth in household | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
incomes in the ten years since the global financial crash. Many have | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
seen a real terms cut in household income. The British economy may be | :15:59. | :16:04. | |
getting richer, but British working people are getting poorer. It is the | :16:05. | :16:10. | |
only advanced economy where wages fell while the economy grew between | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
2007 and 2015. In Croydon, average earnings have fallen by 7.6% in real | :16:17. | :16:24. | |
terms. Today over one third of my constituents are no less than a real | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
living wage. Where has the money gone? Who has taken the proceeds of | :16:28. | :16:33. | |
growth? It is not the vast majority of people in Croydon or across | :16:34. | :16:36. | |
Britain who work around the clock to pay the bills. It is the shrinking | :16:37. | :16:43. | |
small number of the super-rich whose interests this government really | :16:44. | :16:48. | |
represents. Wages are stuck, household debt is soaring, but the | :16:49. | :16:51. | |
Chancellor had absolutely nothing to say about any of it. Is he aware of | :16:52. | :16:59. | |
the Resolution Foundation's report out today which says the UK is set | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
for the worst decade for pay growth in 200 years customer that is | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
absolutely shocking but it is what we are seeing in our constituencies | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
and it is what our constituents are telling us. -- in 200 years? There | :17:14. | :17:19. | |
was a covenant once upon a time. People gave their consent to the | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
system in return for a fairer award for the work they put in. There was | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
an understanding that if you work hard, you would do well. You could | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
expect a decent home, security for your family, health care when you | :17:32. | :17:37. | |
fell ill or grew old. If you could not work, you would be looked after | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
with dignity. Today that covenant is broken. The unfairness and | :17:41. | :17:46. | |
inequality this government Stokes has bred resentment that has | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
catapulted us out of the EU over a cliff edge into uncertainty. I | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
cannot allow him to propagate this method. The gap between the poorest | :17:59. | :18:04. | |
and richest 10% of our population was highest it has ever been under a | :18:05. | :18:11. | |
Labour government. -- this myth. This government has delivered | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
something never delivered in years of a Labour government, a national | :18:18. | :18:20. | |
living wage to assist the poorest in work. It is this government which | :18:21. | :18:28. | |
has absolutely divided the country. Different parts of the country from | :18:29. | :18:31. | |
each other, communities from each other. A statistic shows how they | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
have done it. The ten poorest councils in the country, since the | :18:37. | :18:42. | |
government came in in 2010, they have experienced cuts 17 times | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
bigger than the ten richest. If that is not divisive, I do not know what | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
is. That is happening on top of the fact that jobs have been lost to | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
automation, factories have moved abroad, British people have been | :19:00. | :19:03. | |
denied the investment on the skills and training they need to compete in | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
a global economy, and wages are stagnating. The Tories have made all | :19:09. | :19:12. | |
of this was by targeting the poorest communities for the biggest scale of | :19:13. | :19:18. | |
the cuts. They have put the greatest burden on the weakest shoulders and | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
they have done it as a deliberate political tactic. I think the | :19:22. | :19:31. | |
picture of doom and gloom is disconnected from the reality | :19:32. | :19:34. | |
overall. Can he acknowledge at least the lowest quartile has had a bigger | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
tax cut than the highest quartile? I do not think we need to hear | :19:41. | :19:48. | |
anything about tax cuts from that side of the House since they have | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
broken their solemn promise. The Chancellor yesterday sitting there | :19:55. | :19:57. | |
proposing to raise taxes. The people on the other side of this House | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
going to have to vote on that and it will be very interesting to see how | :20:02. | :20:04. | |
of you follow it through and how many do not. The truth is the party | :20:05. | :20:10. | |
opposite, the government, has divided the country. With this | :20:11. | :20:13. | |
budget, they are doing absolutely nothing to bring the country back | :20:14. | :20:21. | |
together. Thank you. The pleasure to follow the honourable member for | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
Croydon North. Can I first off place on record my declaration as a vice | :20:25. | :20:31. | |
president of the local Governors Association, given many of my | :20:32. | :20:34. | |
remarks will be about local government funding and the services | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
provided? I think the Chancellors when they stand up at the dispatch | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
box have a challenge on their hands to balance the books in terms of | :20:44. | :20:47. | |
taxes to be raised and money to be spent. Of course we have to take | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
into account not only the budget announced yesterday but also the | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
Autumn Statement which of course led to large elements of government | :20:58. | :21:00. | |
spending being brought forward and we have to take both of those into | :21:01. | :21:03. | |
account in looking forward to the year ahead. I do think there is an | :21:04. | :21:10. | |
important issue that there is a budget that is announced at the | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
dispatch box and there is a budget that appears in the newspapers in | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
the days and weeks beyond and the test of a budget is often how long | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
it lasts in terms of... Before people start to pick out the finer | :21:24. | :21:29. | |
points. My concern, it cannot be said that the Chancellor did not | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
address the issue of national insurance increases, he quite | :21:35. | :21:37. | |
clearly spent a large proportion of his speech speaking about national | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
insurance and the importance of balancing the position overall. I do | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
think we need to look at this very, very carefully. There was a solemn | :21:47. | :21:52. | |
promise in the manifesto not to increase National Insurance. The | :21:53. | :21:58. | |
reality is I worry that the accusation could be made that it is | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
a bit like signing a contract but failing to look at the fine print, | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
the small print, that exists. I think we need to look at it | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
carefully because I do think across this country there are many people | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
who have gone into self-employment, on relatively low rates of pay, | :22:17. | :22:22. | |
taking all of the risks... If I can conclude on this issue first and | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
then I will gladly give way. Taking the risks themselves of being | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
entrepreneurs, we want to encourage those people to be entrepreneurs, to | :22:32. | :22:34. | |
invest in their businesses and livelihoods. I do think that we have | :22:35. | :22:41. | |
seen, of course, a dramatic reduction in National Insurance for | :22:42. | :22:45. | |
many of those low-paid people. However, I think the point at which | :22:46. | :22:48. | |
people have to pay more is far too low. I trust that the Treasury will | :22:49. | :22:54. | |
look at this issue and see if we can introduce appropriate tapers to make | :22:55. | :23:00. | |
sure that those highly paid people who would appear to be abusing the | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
position of having the opportunity of being self-employed rather than | :23:07. | :23:13. | |
the lower paid people. While he very clearly outlines the issue of the | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
Conservative Party manifesto, the media today on radio, TV and in the | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
papers, they have given many illustrations of why people are | :23:25. | :23:26. | |
happy with the National Insurance contributions. In my constituency, | :23:27. | :23:34. | |
can I say it is also an issue? Many of my people are telling me they do | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
not want it either. People who have had the system in place for a number | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
of years and they want... Does he feel that the Government should | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
review that decision? Could he confirmed that, please? I thank him | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
for his intervention. I do think the Government has to look at this very | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
carefully, to review the position at the point at which someone will be | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
paying more money in National Insurance on the abolition of class | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
two contributions and the introduction of class four, the | :24:03. | :24:07. | |
increase in class four, I do not think the balance as announced | :24:08. | :24:14. | |
yesterday is right. I give way. I am very grateful. He rightly | :24:15. | :24:17. | |
highlighted the concern it looks like having to look at the small | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
print, as he described. Isn't it worse than that, the small print | :24:23. | :24:25. | |
came in the legislation after the election and the time the commitment | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
was made in the manifesto, there was no small print? It was a very clear | :24:31. | :24:36. | |
promise which was broken. Of course, I thank the honourable member for | :24:37. | :24:41. | |
his intervention. He and his party are experts in broken promises. Can | :24:42. | :24:48. | |
I say that it is important in this process but we are seen to be fair | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
and reasonable and encouraging people to be entrepreneurs? That is | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
the key element. Can I move on from that, Madam Deputy Speaker, to look | :25:00. | :25:02. | |
at the funding for adult social care? The key amenities and local | :25:03. | :25:05. | |
government select committee on which I have the honour of serving | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
recommended the Chancellor bring forward ?1.5 billion to fund adult | :25:11. | :25:18. | |
social care. -- the communities and local government select committee. I | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
am pleased the Secretary of State confirmed today at the dispatch box | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
that it will be added to baseline budgets for local authorities and | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
confirmed the formula by which that money will be distributed. That will | :25:33. | :25:38. | |
be warmly welcomed by local authorities up and down the country | :25:39. | :25:44. | |
and indeed making sure that it is a continuation funding that is very | :25:45. | :25:47. | |
much needed. I hope my honourable friend on the front bench will be | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
able to in the wind-up speech clarify one or two points in the red | :25:52. | :25:56. | |
book which are slightly confusing for me and possibly for other | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
members, if they have looked at them. In the table in relation to | :26:00. | :26:06. | |
adult social care at line nine, it talks about a spend of ?1.2 billion | :26:07. | :26:13. | |
on adult social care in 2017-18 which is more than the Chancellor | :26:14. | :26:17. | |
announced yesterday in his speech. I hope that can be clarified. Equally, | :26:18. | :26:26. | |
on the table... Sorry, that is on page 26 of the red book. And on page | :26:27. | :26:34. | |
21 of the red book, under the CLT items, the extra 1.2 billion does | :26:35. | :26:40. | |
not appear to have been added into that table. It is not clear whether | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
that money is ring fenced for adult social care, which I hope it is, and | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
how that will be ensured it is spent in the wake intended. It is quite | :26:51. | :26:54. | |
clearly something that was needed. I am delighted to have seen it happen. | :26:55. | :27:00. | |
It shows the Chancellor and the Treasury are listening to concerns | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
raised by honourable members right across the house. I'm equally | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
pleased to see the additional funding that has been introduced for | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
the National Health Service, in particular capital funding to | :27:15. | :27:20. | |
provide the much needed A improvements so that we can take | :27:21. | :27:25. | |
some pressure off the A departments by triaging individuals | :27:26. | :27:28. | |
that turn up when they should have gone to the GP in the first place. | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
That is quite clearly going to take the pressure off the help service | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
and I think it is something that will be warmly welcomed across this | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
country and I trust we can get on with implementing those capital | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
schemes as fast as possible so that when we come to next winter, we will | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
not get the same problems in a end as we have experienced over the last | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
couple of years -- A On the STP funding a note that the | :27:54. | :28:05. | |
Chancellor allocated an extra ?325 million for funding the STP | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
programmes. However, the requirement is 9.5 billion and I just wonder | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
where the extra money is going to come from, where that will actually | :28:15. | :28:21. | |
be supported. It is welcome that we get extra money but it seems to be | :28:22. | :28:24. | |
rather a shortfall compared to the actual demands that had been in able | :28:25. | :28:30. | |
through the various different STP programmes. In relation to business | :28:31. | :28:42. | |
rates, clearly we will all welcome the relief, and indeed, having the | :28:43. | :28:49. | |
issue of a three-year revaluation instituted once again. The reality | :28:50. | :28:53. | |
is that we have heard nothing else from this whole process, it is that | :28:54. | :29:00. | |
a seven-year evaluation period is ridiculous and although many | :29:01. | :29:04. | |
businesses across this country will be happy about the fact that their | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
business rates effectively were frozen, for seven years, revaluing | :29:09. | :29:15. | |
the businesses, that means an almost cliff edge. So I think | :29:16. | :29:21. | |
implementation of the three-year revaluation is to be the right | :29:22. | :29:27. | |
approach. I also welcome the issue, of the ?300 million for | :29:28. | :29:30. | |
discretionary relief, to local authorities to grant on business | :29:31. | :29:36. | |
rates. The only concern I have, is one, that we know large numbers of | :29:37. | :29:40. | |
appeals against the valuations will be lodged, and then maybe that some | :29:41. | :29:48. | |
local authorities will be hesitant about granting the release while | :29:49. | :29:55. | |
appeals are going on. That has a big effect in London and other parts of | :29:56. | :29:59. | |
the country where 100% of business rates are devolved, that can | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
potentially have a huge impact on the income of local authorities. So | :30:05. | :30:10. | |
that is my one concern. What we do need absolute clarity on, is what is | :30:11. | :30:16. | |
going to happen about the billing of business rates, and the reliefs that | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
will be offered thereafter because businesses up and down the country | :30:21. | :30:25. | |
will be receiving their bills, not necessarily knowing what reliefs | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
they will get. And in terms of cash flow there will be a serious | :30:31. | :30:36. | |
concern. The additional money to relieve businesses, this increase of | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
business rates is extremely welcome. I think once again, the problems are | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
in the detail and we must make sure that the uncertainty that there is | :30:45. | :30:53. | |
out there in business is resolved as quickly as possible. I thank my | :30:54. | :30:59. | |
honourable friend who like me is the vice president of a local government | :31:00. | :31:02. | |
Association and will he agree with me that in future the property is a | :31:03. | :31:07. | |
case to be made for a regional aspect to nondomestic or business | :31:08. | :31:12. | |
rates, because the difficulties that we are potentially seeing in Greater | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
London and the south-east is not replicated throughout the rest of | :31:16. | :31:19. | |
the country where we are seeing a reduction in the bills and that | :31:20. | :31:22. | |
speaks to a need to look at London as a unique entity? I thank my | :31:23. | :31:28. | |
honourable friend and clearly as we move forward, before we get to 100% | :31:29. | :31:32. | |
devolution and business rates across the country, we have two resolved | :31:33. | :31:41. | |
these conundrums. In the business rates income. Equally we have to | :31:42. | :31:46. | |
recognise that business rates raising the order ?25 billion a year | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
as a tax and so therefore, just changing, the basis of this, could | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
be extremely cumbersome, and would lead to hikes for some businesses | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
which would not be welcome as well as reductions for others. I think we | :32:00. | :32:03. | |
have got to look at that in the round and make sure, that the new | :32:04. | :32:09. | |
policy, and the consultation, that we are going to embark on, works for | :32:10. | :32:15. | |
all businesses and all people. In terms of education Madam deputies | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
Speaker, the 500 new free schools and the funding for new free schools | :32:21. | :32:23. | |
will be extremely welcome. The reality is in my and across the | :32:24. | :32:33. | |
borough -- my constituency, we have need for four new schools | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
immediately. We have used every single primary school to expand to | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
its capacity, built on every piece of land that is available to provide | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
new school places, all with government funding allocated under | :32:46. | :32:48. | |
the coalition government and that has been extremely welcome, but we | :32:49. | :32:54. | |
still need additional schools. I am delighted, that a new faith school, | :32:55. | :33:00. | |
will be opening soon in my constituency, based on the Hindu | :33:01. | :33:07. | |
faith, which will be the first state-sponsored all through school | :33:08. | :33:09. | |
in the country for the Hindu community and I think we will need | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
more schools in addition. I do have a real concern however, over the | :33:15. | :33:19. | |
principles of the fairer funding formula. The reality is this. If the | :33:20. | :33:24. | |
money that is coming into the fairer funding formula is flat, and if some | :33:25. | :33:29. | |
people are going to be gaining that other people are going to be losing | :33:30. | :33:34. | |
and in my constituency, my schools, the current estimate is that 75% of | :33:35. | :33:39. | |
those schools will actually see not just a reduction in real terms but a | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
real reduction in the amount of funding that is available to people | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
in those schools. They cannot increase the number of pupils in | :33:49. | :33:52. | |
those schools, because the schools are full. And so the only | :33:53. | :33:56. | |
alternative will be to cut staff and implement a worse service for the | :33:57. | :34:01. | |
children, in my constituency and that is unacceptable. I placed that | :34:02. | :34:07. | |
on record right now. I welcomed investment that has been made in | :34:08. | :34:11. | |
skills and in vocational studies. For far too long in this country we | :34:12. | :34:16. | |
have had a position whereby the academic skills have been recognised | :34:17. | :34:20. | |
and applauded and vocational skills have not had the investment that | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
they deserve. So I welcome what the Chancellor is doing in terms of | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
making that happen. And using the funding to actually drive that | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
process forward. That has got to be the right way, as we encourage young | :34:34. | :34:39. | |
people, to develop their skills, if they have got academic capabilities | :34:40. | :34:42. | |
that is wonderful and if they have got vocational skills, we | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
desperately need them either in the construction industry, the service | :34:47. | :34:54. | |
industries right across the board. I welcome the change that is taking | :34:55. | :35:02. | |
place. I also I welcome the new deal on London devolution. I know the | :35:03. | :35:07. | |
Labour Mayor of London has welcomed, the Chancellor's decision to | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
devolved. I didn't hear that from the dispatch box at all from the | :35:12. | :35:16. | |
other side, but clearly there is always a disconnect between the | :35:17. | :35:19. | |
Labour Mayor of London and his own front bench. Clearly that is | :35:20. | :35:25. | |
something that we warmly welcome, that local authorities and other | :35:26. | :35:31. | |
parts of the country as well as London have kept their own business | :35:32. | :35:34. | |
rates and have the opportunity to make local decisions for local | :35:35. | :35:42. | |
people. There is a gap however, the Chancellor did not talk about the | :35:43. | :35:48. | |
funding, place you regional funding. These schemes have been used right | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
across the country for particular purposes, clearly we don't need to | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
make that decision now but the Chancellor must consider this in the | :35:58. | :36:00. | |
future because these funds are vitally needed right across our | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
regions. Madam Deputy Speaker, I welcome the provisions on alcohol | :36:07. | :36:11. | |
duty, in the main. But I think it would have been sensible for the | :36:12. | :36:15. | |
Chancellor to maintain the position of not increasing their duty. This | :36:16. | :36:21. | |
is something the predecessor will be warmly welcomed. Bah I do think, I | :36:22. | :36:30. | |
do think that the cuts in beer duty that we have seen over previous | :36:31. | :36:37. | |
budgets, have been appropriately done to encourage people to drink | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
lower strength beers rather than higher strength alcohols, and I do | :36:42. | :36:47. | |
think it is important, on tobacco duty which I do think is | :36:48. | :36:52. | |
significant, I welcome the changes, I think he could have gone further. | :36:53. | :36:58. | |
This is one of those. If they want something, if they want to increase | :36:59. | :37:04. | |
duties, let's increase duties on tobacco. The fact is, it is a | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
straightforward translation, that the less people smoke, the less they | :37:10. | :37:12. | |
make a demand on the National Health Service. I thank my honourable | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
friend for giving way comedies making a powerful speech and I would | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
agree wholeheartedly, in fact I would go further and in courage to | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
not only significantly increase the duties on cigarettes but also then | :37:27. | :37:33. | |
conversely to reduce or insure, that they pin devices and heat not burn | :37:34. | :37:36. | |
devices get a better hearing because by switching to those devices we are | :37:37. | :37:40. | |
actually saving lives and improving the health of so many millions of | :37:41. | :37:47. | |
people. I thank my flat and anything we can do which encourages people | :37:48. | :37:51. | |
who smoke to give up has got to be good for the health and for the | :37:52. | :37:57. | |
National Health Service. Before my honourable friend moves on, does he | :37:58. | :38:05. | |
agree with me, that if you looks on the red book, there is only a | :38:06. | :38:08. | |
commitment to consult on white cider and other high Street ciders, given | :38:09. | :38:13. | |
the argument that they cause disproportionate harm in terms of | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
policing, health etc, does he think there is a case for increasing | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
duties on these high-strength alcohol products? I thank my noble | :38:23. | :38:28. | |
friend and I think there is a quite clear position, one of the issues I | :38:29. | :38:31. | |
would like the Treasury to look at in particular, is the differential | :38:32. | :38:37. | |
duties, on the licensed premises, compared to sales, I think that is | :38:38. | :38:43. | |
somewhere we could make quite a massive difference in terms of the | :38:44. | :38:49. | |
way that we approach it. On tobacco duty, one concern I have in what has | :38:50. | :38:53. | |
been proposed, is the potential to drive individuals away from smoking, | :38:54. | :39:01. | |
shall we say normal standard cigarettes, to hand-rolled tobacco. | :39:02. | :39:04. | |
The reality is it is likely that young people may be encouraged to | :39:05. | :39:08. | |
switch to hand-rolled tobacco, that is even more harmful to young | :39:09. | :39:12. | |
people's health that smoking cigarettes. So I think the duty on | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
hand-rolled tobacco needs to be looked at as well. So we can | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
discourage the position there. Two final issues I want to mention Madam | :39:22. | :39:28. | |
Deputy Speaker, the first is, I was disappointed, and I will register | :39:29. | :39:31. | |
this, I know my honourable friend on the front bench will know what I'm | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
going to talk about right now. I was disappointed to not see further | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
compensation for the victims of the Equitable Life scandal. I know that | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
the Treasury believed that the scheme is closed. It is quite | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
clearly closed to new applicants. But there is still the burning | :39:49. | :39:52. | |
injustice, that those people that saved for their future, and future | :39:53. | :39:57. | |
pensions have not received the full compensation that is due. The | :39:58. | :40:02. | |
government I'm very proud to say allocated funding in the early part | :40:03. | :40:08. | |
of 2010, and this will help to compensate some of the victims of | :40:09. | :40:13. | |
the scandal, but there is still a total of 2.8 or ?2.5 billion that is | :40:14. | :40:20. | |
owed to the victims of that scandal. The individuals are getting older, | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
they are getting more vulnerable and if we give any money at all to those | :40:25. | :40:29. | |
victims it will go straight into the economy because those are people who | :40:30. | :40:32. | |
desperately need the money for their old age. And I hope that my | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
honourable friend will look at this again in the round, I do stand how | :40:38. | :40:41. | |
difficult it is balancing the books at the moment but clearly this is a | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
debt of honour and as the economy recovers we should be looking to | :40:47. | :40:50. | |
increase the compensation, not sane to individuals, that is it, that is | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
all you again to get because I think we will suffer the consequences of | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
peoples mistrust as a result. The final point I want to make is that | :41:00. | :41:06. | |
over housing and I do think, the White Paper on housing has | :41:07. | :41:09. | |
demonstrated large elements of what we need to do in this country to | :41:10. | :41:12. | |
increase the volume of housing and I know that there was a great deal of | :41:13. | :41:17. | |
comment in the Autumn Statement on funds for housing but there was no | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
mention of that in the budget yesterday or further measures that | :41:23. | :41:29. | |
we need to undertake. My Private members Bill is progressing through | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
the house, and it is in the other place at the moment and I hope it | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
will become law very soon. That is aimed at reducing homelessness in | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
this country, but the most important thing we can do, the impact, is to | :41:42. | :41:49. | |
build more homes. And I trust, that my noble friend on the front bench, | :41:50. | :41:55. | |
we'll look at measures, will encourage local authorities, housing | :41:56. | :41:59. | |
associations and Private builders to build low-cost housing, that is | :42:00. | :42:03. | |
relatively easily affordable for the people of this country so that we | :42:04. | :42:08. | |
can combat homelessness once and for all in a civilised society. Madam | :42:09. | :42:14. | |
Deputy Speaker, this budget is one of those, that will, we look at him | :42:15. | :42:15. | |
around. It is our duty as backbenchers to be | :42:16. | :42:26. | |
critical friends of our frontbenchers to make sure they are | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
keeping abreast of what is going on, particularly when the opposition do | :42:32. | :42:37. | |
not seem to be able to provide such critiques of our budget. I welcome | :42:38. | :42:42. | |
the overall thrust of the budget and I trust that in the round we can | :42:43. | :42:45. | |
look at ameliorating some of the areas I have mentioned. I recommend | :42:46. | :42:52. | |
it to the house. Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I did not agree with | :42:53. | :42:55. | |
everything the honourable member said but he did make some very | :42:56. | :42:59. | |
thoughtful points and I hope that his Minister on the front bench was | :43:00. | :43:02. | |
paying more attention than he appeared to be. I was disappointed | :43:03. | :43:09. | |
by the lack of ambition in yesterday's Budget. We should take | :43:10. | :43:14. | |
some consolation from the fact the Chancellor acknowledged the | :43:15. | :43:19. | |
Government still has a lot of work to do and perhaps when we have the | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
combined Autumn Statement and Budget we will have more ambition. The | :43:24. | :43:28. | |
Chancellor talked about improving productivity and ensuring young | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
people have the skills they need. I agreed. He identified some of the | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
challenges but he sing elite failed to address Brexit, the elephant in | :43:38. | :43:41. | |
the room in danger of trampling everything underfoot ash macro | :43:42. | :43:47. | |
singularly. Bristol is a prosperous city with thriving industries and | :43:48. | :43:52. | |
the only city outside London that makes a positive contribution to GDP | :43:53. | :43:58. | |
and it sometimes means we are seen as having everything sorted, | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
everything going for us. But not everyone is able to share in this | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
success. We're working to make Bristol a more equal city and share | :44:08. | :44:13. | |
the prosperity beyond the recently gentrified parts of the city, to | :44:14. | :44:16. | |
work for people who have lived in Bristol all of their lives and | :44:17. | :44:21. | |
people who have moved to Bristol because it is such a thriving place. | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
I fear yesterday's budget made the task more difficult. There are more | :44:26. | :44:32. | |
than 5000 children living in poverty in Bristol East, my constituency, | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
last year. The Chancellor spoke yesterday of the dignity of work but | :44:37. | :44:40. | |
the majority of these children are in working families. This issue of | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
in work poverty is something that has been raised frequently in this | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
House and it needs tackling and it is not simply enough to suggest | :44:49. | :44:53. | |
moving people into work from welfare is the only solution. Universal | :44:54. | :44:56. | |
credit cuts will make the situation worse. There was nothing yesterday | :44:57. | :45:00. | |
in response to the Resolution Foundation's warnings that incomes | :45:01. | :45:04. | |
will rise for high-income households, stagnate in the middle | :45:05. | :45:12. | |
and fall at the bottom. Very few in my constituency are in high-income | :45:13. | :45:20. | |
category. It will be the biggest rise in inequality since the late | :45:21. | :45:24. | |
1980s, save the Resolution Foundation. I do not know how the | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
Chancellor can lecture low paid workers about the dignity of work | :45:29. | :45:31. | |
while watching living standards fall. Self-employed workers, he is | :45:32. | :45:37. | |
increasing their taxes, despite them earning half as much as employees | :45:38. | :45:41. | |
and having fewer rights. I grew up with a stepfather who was this often | :45:42. | :45:46. | |
employed demolition contract. My sister took over his business when | :45:47. | :45:52. | |
he died -- self-employed. He had a lorry. In all other respects, he | :45:53. | :45:55. | |
fitted the definition of a white van man. As did virtually everyone who | :45:56. | :45:59. | |
came round the house in terms of family friends, plumbers, | :46:00. | :46:04. | |
electricians, window cleaners, people who did well for themselves | :46:05. | :46:09. | |
but they worked incredibly hard and my dad did not take a day off sick | :46:10. | :46:13. | |
not least because he would not have and any money. We went on family | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
holidays and he not only had to calculate the cost of taking a | :46:19. | :46:22. | |
family of eight abroad but he also had to calculate how much he would | :46:23. | :46:25. | |
lose in earnings and whether he would have to pay other people to | :46:26. | :46:36. | |
keep the salvage yard open. My three sisters, three of my sisters, I | :46:37. | :46:37. | |
five, three of them are five, three of them are | :46:38. | :46:38. | |
to grapple with the fluctuations in to grapple with the fluctuations in | :46:39. | :46:41. | |
income. It is not easy to plan because you do not know when the | :46:42. | :46:43. | |
money will come in. They have money will come in. They have | :46:44. | :46:48. | |
additional burdens. According to the FSB, there are six and a half | :46:49. | :46:53. | |
thousand people in my constituency who have to make the same | :46:54. | :46:58. | |
calculation is but have the added responsible as he of extra National | :46:59. | :47:01. | |
Insurance contributions. I had any mail from a constituent today | :47:02. | :47:04. | |
writing on behalf of her son, a construction worker, she pointed out | :47:05. | :47:10. | |
he has to buy his own tools, third-party liability, something | :47:11. | :47:17. | |
called ACS yes card, he has to pay to travel to jobs and at the end of | :47:18. | :47:21. | |
one job, there is a break where he does not know if another job is in | :47:22. | :47:26. | |
the pipeline. Some of this is tax deductible, but not all. They are | :47:27. | :47:30. | |
not the same as employed workers with the security they would have. | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
She is making a very excellent point and I too know people in my own | :47:36. | :47:42. | |
family and friends in the kind of job she is talking about. Is it not | :47:43. | :47:45. | |
also the fact people find it difficult to get insurance against | :47:46. | :47:50. | |
loss of earnings, as well as insurance for very high-priced items | :47:51. | :47:56. | |
like tools, all these additional costs would self-employment that | :47:57. | :48:04. | |
were not dealt with by the Budget? They are in a very different | :48:05. | :48:07. | |
situation compared to people who have an employer who takes care of | :48:08. | :48:11. | |
their needs. That is something the Chancellor's singularly seems to | :48:12. | :48:16. | |
have failed to recognise. He is blaming the self-employed for not | :48:17. | :48:22. | |
reading the nonexistent small print in the Conservative manifesto. In | :48:23. | :48:28. | |
terms of what they said in 2015, it is a broken promise. She makes a | :48:29. | :48:35. | |
point about her family. My father was self-employed when I grew up and | :48:36. | :48:40. | |
we were in a family of eight also and I certainly was in a similar | :48:41. | :48:43. | |
situation and felt we never had a family, our summer holiday was a day | :48:44. | :48:50. | |
trip to the seaside. That is a reality sometimes of the struggle it | :48:51. | :48:53. | |
can be to make ends meet when you take that risk. Does she agree that | :48:54. | :48:58. | |
the added pressures when we are ready facing pressures on family | :48:59. | :49:01. | |
budgets could be that those who are just about managing become no longer | :49:02. | :49:07. | |
just about managing? I very much agree. I very much recognise the | :49:08. | :49:11. | |
point she makes about the family she grew up in. Surely we want to | :49:12. | :49:17. | |
encourage new people to become entrepreneurs, people who will | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
strike out on their own and create thriving businesses of the future? | :49:22. | :49:24. | |
Some of our most successful entrepreneurs started up | :49:25. | :49:30. | |
self-employed and set up small and medium-sized enterprises. I think | :49:31. | :49:35. | |
this short cited tax grab will deter people from doing that. Forgive me | :49:36. | :49:42. | |
for not being here earlier, but for not being here earlier, but | :49:43. | :49:47. | |
thank you for letting me intervene. As I understand it, this would be | :49:48. | :49:58. | |
tapered. Someone below 16,250 a year in earnings, they will be better | :49:59. | :50:01. | |
off. It is only as you get to the top end of earnings that this | :50:02. | :50:06. | |
measure comes in. At the same time, it is not going to come in until the | :50:07. | :50:10. | |
summer when we look at the national Insurance bill. I think it is as the | :50:11. | :50:15. | |
bill goes through Parliament, we need to scrutinise the detail. All I | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
know at the moment is I have constituents extremely worried about | :50:21. | :50:23. | |
it and it is making them think twice about whether they should continue | :50:24. | :50:27. | |
as self-employed or whether they should look for perhaps potentially | :50:28. | :50:31. | |
less lucrative jobs but jobs that have more security at the moment. | :50:32. | :50:36. | |
Would she agree with me that if the Government gets away with this | :50:37. | :50:40. | |
proposal, it will be a down payment on more tax increases? That is | :50:41. | :50:48. | |
certainly the concern and I think... The point was already made, if you | :50:49. | :50:54. | |
cannot trust the government on this, people will think they cannot trust | :50:55. | :50:57. | |
the Government on anything in terms of the future economic security. I | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
think the honourable lady is making a typical lucid point in her speech | :51:02. | :51:08. | |
but isn't it incumbent on her, given there is a broad consensus we need | :51:09. | :51:12. | |
to fund social care better, extra 2 billion the Chancellor announced, | :51:13. | :51:16. | |
that it is incumbent upon her party to identify where the money would | :51:17. | :51:21. | |
come from and if she does not want it to be raised from National | :51:22. | :51:25. | |
Insurance contributions, where else will it come from? It leads me | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
nicely to my next point which is that the Chancellor would claim the | :51:29. | :51:34. | |
Government has no choice but to raise national insurance | :51:35. | :51:37. | |
contributions. But he has somehow managed to find ?70 billion in tax | :51:38. | :51:41. | |
cuts for the rich corporations including ?1 billion for the | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
Government's that concern, inheritance tax will stop I pay | :51:46. | :51:49. | |
tribute my honourable friend the member for Leeds West for her work | :51:50. | :51:53. | |
on this. From next month, the threshold for a couple will start to | :51:54. | :51:58. | |
rise to 1 million, from the 650,000 it is at the moment. In my | :51:59. | :52:04. | |
constituency, over the last two years, 17 homes sold for more than | :52:05. | :52:08. | |
650,000. Not all of those would have been subject to inheritance tax. My | :52:09. | :52:12. | |
constituents are paying the price for a tax cut that will benefit only | :52:13. | :52:24. | |
low .0 -- only 0.04% of people. The Chancellor also managed to find | :52:25. | :52:27. | |
funding for the Primus's grammar school project, despite a dearth of | :52:28. | :52:31. | |
evidence to support the policy. It baffles me why he thinks this is | :52:32. | :52:34. | |
more important than helping the schools we have at the moment facing | :52:35. | :52:39. | |
a ?3 billion shortfall. What good will new grammar schools do to | :52:40. | :52:44. | |
children and teachers at Bristol met where half of the pupils have free | :52:45. | :52:49. | |
school meals but the funding is being cut by 21%? Or at a primary | :52:50. | :52:54. | |
which has seen a 16% cut in pupil funding between 20-13 - 14, I could | :52:55. | :53:06. | |
go on... The Government's chaotic approach to children's education is | :53:07. | :53:11. | |
emblematic of a budget incapable of long-term planning. The funding is | :53:12. | :53:14. | |
there when the Government wants it to be but not when people need it to | :53:15. | :53:20. | |
be. The Government also seems incapable of looking beyond the | :53:21. | :53:24. | |
short-term, incapable of recognising cuts have consequences. Ministers | :53:25. | :53:29. | |
are denying 18-21 -year-old 's housing benefit but if just 140 | :53:30. | :53:32. | |
young people are pushed onto the streets, that policy will cost the | :53:33. | :53:37. | |
government more than it saves. The charity estimates nine dozen young | :53:38. | :53:41. | |
people will be put at risk of homelessness by this policy. It is | :53:42. | :53:45. | |
not just short-sighted, it is, if Madam Deputy Speaker permits me to | :53:46. | :53:50. | |
use the word, it is gross stupidity on the Government's part, to higher | :53:51. | :53:54. | |
cost just for the sake of making very short-term savings. I have | :53:55. | :53:59. | |
referred to the success of Bristol as a sit -- a city but there is a | :54:00. | :54:09. | |
boom in housing market. Tenants have to pay 64% of their disposable | :54:10. | :54:14. | |
income on rent on average. The May has created a housing delivery team | :54:15. | :54:20. | |
and they have been working hard on the issue to get more affordable | :54:21. | :54:24. | |
housing built -- mayor. Finding temporary beds for the homeless. It | :54:25. | :54:28. | |
will not be helped by cuts to housing benefit and the Minister's | :54:29. | :54:33. | |
pre-op vacation with million pound houses -- preoccupation. It is not | :54:34. | :54:40. | |
enough just to devolve responsibility is, the resources has | :54:41. | :54:43. | |
to come with it if he is to do what he is being asked to do. As I have | :54:44. | :54:50. | |
said, it is not just on housing, it is also social care, public health, | :54:51. | :54:55. | |
tax increases, funding cuts. The Government's instinct is to pass the | :54:56. | :55:00. | |
buck to local authorities. Bristol's funding has fallen over the past six | :55:01. | :55:04. | |
years. Over the next five years, we are facing ?104 million funding gap | :55:05. | :55:13. | |
as costs rise. A further 30% cuts to the budgets just ministers are | :55:14. | :55:16. | |
oblivious to the difficult decisions councils are having to make. There | :55:17. | :55:21. | |
is no recognition of the long-term costs of neglecting infrastructure | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
and key services. A temporary sticking plaster next year will not | :55:26. | :55:29. | |
rescue the social care system or will ease the burden on council | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
services. The situation will only get worse with Brexit. Bristol City | :55:35. | :55:38. | |
Council received ?22 million of EU funding in the ten years up to ten | :55:39. | :55:43. | |
to 15. The city's two universities receive up to ?20 million a year | :55:44. | :55:47. | |
from EU sources. I pay tribute to the member for Bristol West for the | :55:48. | :55:55. | |
work she is doing with universities. The investment bank has facilitated | :55:56. | :56:05. | |
the council's energy company. The Chancellor claimed there would be no | :56:06. | :56:11. | |
complacency but nor is there any strategy. The Government has no clue | :56:12. | :56:15. | |
as to what will replace this EU investment or how to guarantee | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
exports market. Blithely pretending everything will be fine and dandy is | :56:21. | :56:24. | |
not a legitimate plan. Ministers are rushing headlong into a hard Brexit, | :56:25. | :56:30. | |
ignoring how trade with the EU is a major driving force for the economy. | :56:31. | :56:35. | |
Turning us into a bargain basement tax haven may be what some ministers | :56:36. | :56:39. | |
have always wanted but it is not what Bristol or the country needs. | :56:40. | :56:42. | |
The Chancellor boasted of infrastructure projects but my | :56:43. | :56:46. | |
constituents are fed up with broken promises and bad management. We have | :56:47. | :56:50. | |
Intuit disruption because of the electrification of the great Western | :56:51. | :56:53. | |
line and the taxpayer has had to cope with spiralling costs. The | :56:54. | :56:57. | |
programme has been delayed indefinitely at a cost of ?330 | :56:58. | :57:05. | |
million. People in Bristol do not know if they will ever see the | :57:06. | :57:07. | |
benefit when we have already paid the price. Time and again ministers | :57:08. | :57:10. | |
do not bother to consider the bigger picture. Environmental regulation is | :57:11. | :57:13. | |
dismissed as red tape. I have given up hoping that some members opposite | :57:14. | :57:21. | |
will see the environmental necessity of green clap, apologies again, | :57:22. | :57:28. | |
Madam Deputy Speaker. They have taken a half-hearted approach with | :57:29. | :57:33. | |
the work despite the potential to create half a million jobs and | :57:34. | :57:37. | |
support a genuinely forward-thinking industrial strategy, one that is fit | :57:38. | :57:43. | |
for the future. The Chancellor promised skilled jobs and meaningful | :57:44. | :57:47. | |
trading. I hope he will go back to his colleagues and look at how a | :57:48. | :57:51. | |
genuine focus on the green economy can support this and ensure Britain | :57:52. | :57:57. | |
is a world leading to reassure me this government is capable of | :57:58. | :58:00. | |
working with cities like Bristol to help everyone achieve their full | :58:01. | :58:01. | |
potential. It is a pleasure to follow my | :58:02. | :58:11. | |
honourable member for Bristol East. I should say I'm still an elected | :58:12. | :58:16. | |
councillor in the London Borough of Redbridge, like semi-others, I am an | :58:17. | :58:20. | |
Henri vice president of the local government Association. And also by | :58:21. | :58:27. | |
way, I'm sorry that I wasn't able to be here at the beginning of the | :58:28. | :58:31. | |
debate. All of the speeches made by the Shadow Chancellor and the | :58:32. | :58:35. | |
Secretary of State business, I've will show had to attend extra Aubrey | :58:36. | :58:38. | |
meeting of the Treasury committee and I'm grateful to you and your | :58:39. | :58:42. | |
predecessors in the chair for indulging me in that today. | :58:43. | :58:46. | |
Yesterday we learned that the Chancellor had a sense of humour but | :58:47. | :58:50. | |
by the time he sat down my constituents the country at large | :58:51. | :58:53. | |
had very little to laugh about, in fact I would wager a bet that the | :58:54. | :58:56. | |
Chancellor himself was not laughing when he read this morning 's | :58:57. | :59:00. | |
newspapers. It has been striking this afternoon that there are more | :59:01. | :59:03. | |
opposition speakers than there are speakers from the governing benches. | :59:04. | :59:08. | |
Presumably because so few Tory MPs were willing to turn up to defend | :59:09. | :59:12. | |
the Chancellor's budget. Abe Ajit balanced on the back of the | :59:13. | :59:15. | |
self-employed, failing to address the big challenges for schools and | :59:16. | :59:19. | |
hospitals and a budget that failed to prepare Britain for Brexit. Madam | :59:20. | :59:23. | |
Deputy Speaker this was a budget that was bad for business. | :59:24. | :59:27. | |
High-street businesses clobbered by business rates, small businesses | :59:28. | :59:31. | |
burdens by reporting to HMRC even when they are not liable for the 80 | :59:32. | :59:36. | |
and the self-employed, saddled with higher national insurance even and | :59:37. | :59:41. | |
they earn as little as 16,000 ?250 per year. These were the people that | :59:42. | :59:44. | |
I was sent to parliament to represent. The shopkeepers in | :59:45. | :59:48. | |
Barkingside and Woodford who kept their businesses going even as other | :59:49. | :59:52. | |
shops on the high Street were boarded up during the recession. All | :59:53. | :59:57. | |
those who were brave enough to take the plunge even as the high-street | :59:58. | :00:02. | |
was plagued by recession. The family businesses wondering if they will be | :00:03. | :00:06. | |
able to pass on their phones to the next generation because times are | :00:07. | :00:08. | |
increasingly tough and they worry about the long-term future of the | :00:09. | :00:12. | |
family trade. The self-employed you take the risk by taking the plunge | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
and going it alone, taking an idea and turning it into a profit. This | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
was a budget that hits the traditional economy of a high Street | :00:22. | :00:27. | |
and the economy of the entrepreneurs. Good for accountants | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
and bad for small businesses. No wonder this morning Madam Deputy | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
Speaker so many people woke up to read the papers wondering why on | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
earth are Tory Chancellor would want to attack enterprise, | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
entrepreneurialism and aspiration. I know the Chancellor has said this is | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
an issue of fairness and policy wonks in the Treasury and even | :00:46. | :00:47. | |
elsewhere in the world of think tanks will argue, that Nash | :00:48. | :00:54. | |
insurance is progressive. It is a powerful reminder of what happens | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
when people who understand spreadsheets fail to understand the | :00:58. | :01:03. | |
real economy. Take London taxi drivers, the National careers | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
service website suggest they can and between ?14,000 Iran ?20,000 here | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
and I suppose in a good year if they're willing to put in as they | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
often do these days excessive hours, working the streets, they may earn | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
slightly more. These are the people who have seen the triple whammy, | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
rising costs, increasing congestion and unfair competition. Is it | :01:26. | :01:29. | |
progressive to ask taxi drivers already struggling to pay the bills | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
to pay an extra ?240 year in national insurance? Is it | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
progressive to ask the young tech of and are starting out to find an | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
extra 2030 or ?45 a month in the early careers. Is it really fair to | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
us people who receive no holiday pended for job security and the | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
everyday pressures to bring bacon home, to pay more to the Chancellor | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
when it is small change for him and a big deal for him. And why is it. I | :01:57. | :02:04. | |
will give way. Darcy like me welcome the improvement in the pensions -- | :02:05. | :02:11. | |
the pensions. An improvement worth 1800 year which if you bought it | :02:12. | :02:15. | |
would be ?50,000. It is not all one-way. There have been | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
improvements in the margins for sure, but that does not compensate, | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
for the loss of earnings that people earning low to medium incomes will | :02:27. | :02:29. | |
fuel as a result of the decision taken by the Chancellor in this | :02:30. | :02:35. | |
budget. I thank my wobble friend for making way, point I would taxi | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
drivers drivers I would wholeheartedly in two. I have had a | :02:40. | :02:47. | |
very similar spreads and would he not agree with me that it is not | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
only the cost he has mentioned but the additional charges, and of | :02:51. | :02:56. | |
course also the rise in prices at the pump. I wholeheartedly agree | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
with my honourable friend, in fact there are more than 10,000 people in | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
my constituency who are self-employed and as my honourable | :03:06. | :03:07. | |
friend the member for Bristol East White | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
that are quite rightly pointed out, they have a range of additional cost | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
and very few employment rights and protections. Why is it that these | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
are the people that have been targeted by the Chancellor in this | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
budget? While I am on the point of asking questions about priorities, | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
why is it that tax giveaways, like a car to inheritance tax for the | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
26,000 wealthy estates across the country can always be found by a | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
Tory Chancellor, at the expense of the strivers, the makers, the | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
builders, in this case Britain's 5 million self-employed. I thank the | :03:45. | :03:53. | |
honourable gentleman, while we are on the subject of questions, is he | :03:54. | :03:57. | |
embarrassed that it is a concerted government that has brought about a | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
situation where 1% of taxpayers are funding 27% of tax revenues. And at | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
the same time we have got a situation where ?140 billion in the | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
last seven years of uncollected taxes which is party did nothing | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
about in government has been collected to fund the public | :04:15. | :04:18. | |
services. What is embarrassing about one of the richest economies in the | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
world is that when you look at the distribution analysis published by | :04:22. | :04:24. | |
the Treasury alongside this budget, it is very clear, the picture that | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
plays out across this parliament as a result of the tax spending welfare | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
decisions made by this Chancellor and his predecessors. That is, it is | :04:34. | :04:40. | |
the poorest households, and on a very arm progressive gradient, those | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
from lower income households who are absolutely clobbered by this | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
government, only the very richest decile are affected worse than the | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
very worst paid. The very worst well. And if you think about it when | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
you are someone who is paying the very highest rate of tax, as a | :04:59. | :05:01. | |
percentage of your income you are paying more than the very poorest. | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
Thousands of pounds a year for some of those people in tax increases is | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
actually relatively small change compare to ?20, ?40, ?50 increase | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
for the very poorest. Because if you are just about managing, because if | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
you just about managing to pay the bills or even more likely if you are | :05:21. | :05:23. | |
one of the millions of people returning to credit cards, and | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
fuelling a record boom in unsecured household debt, those margin | :05:29. | :05:37. | |
increases for many of us are huge increases for them. That is what | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
Tory chancellors fail to understand, they have no understanding and | :05:42. | :05:44. | |
conception of what that is like, to have to cut corners between heating | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
or eating. This is why for the last seven years of Tory budgets, those | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
are the people who have been the most left behind. I'm very grateful, | :05:53. | :06:00. | |
did he pick up the comments of Charlie Bean, formerly of the Bank | :06:01. | :06:07. | |
of England and now, the OBR that consumer spending is unsustainable, | :06:08. | :06:10. | |
and it is going back to the record levels of debt that go back to | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
before the crash. Durable gentleman makes a very powerful and important | :06:16. | :06:18. | |
point because unless we get to grips with this issue. It is not just | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
those people who suffer as they fall below, the line and can no longer | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
keep their head above water, it is the economy itself. Even though the | :06:28. | :06:34. | |
sluggish growth, even with that sluggish growth, it is being driven | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
by an increase in household debt. What happens to those families and | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
what happens to the economy, when the money dries up, when they can | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
lend no more all when they can no longer service their debt. Of course | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
it is not just national assurance or income tax that the poorest pay, | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
they are disproportionately and regressive the impacted upon, by | :06:57. | :07:05. | |
other rates of taxation, like the 80, like council tax, other | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
aggressive measures of taxation and making the very poorest of a worst. | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
If this wasn't bad enough, this was explicitly ruled out in the | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
Conservative manifesto, not just once but four times. It is a bit | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
rich for the Chancellor to come to this house and talk about the small | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
print companies, while his ministers are then tidying up the mess the day | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
after at the dispatch box talking about the small print in the | :07:32. | :07:34. | |
national insurance bill. This is a broken promise play and simple. It | :07:35. | :07:41. | |
was not only a manifesto, it was a central line of Tory attack, and | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
just as the Tories were wrong in the last elections, be warned that | :07:45. | :07:50. | |
somehow a Labour government, would cause chaos, and instability, look | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
at the mess they are designing over and look what they have done. You | :07:55. | :08:02. | |
have referred to the Conservative manifesto, that is the same | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
manifesto that has committed the government to stay in the single | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
market, so clearly the lesson surely is the Conservative manifesto is | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
worth nothing, not even the paper they are written on? And grateful to | :08:15. | :08:21. | |
my honourable friend for making that point, he will be pleased I will be | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
returning shortly to Europe and the issue of our economy. I will come | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
back to Europe and he may want to make an intervention later on, I'm | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
conscious of other people waiting to speak, there are stalling number of | :08:34. | :08:35. | |
people on this side of the chamber even if there are not any on the | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
other side of the chamber. This is the case of all pain and no game at | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
depth to speak. If it weren't bad enough, that's the Conservative | :08:47. | :08:48. | |
chance arrived yesterday to clobber the self-employed, he is failing to | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
put right the public services is people depend. We were told, that | :08:54. | :09:00. | |
the crisis in the NHS and social care, required an additional ?6 | :09:01. | :09:06. | |
billion by 2019. Whilst the ?2 billion that was announced yesterday | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
may be welcomed, it is wholly insufficient, for meeting the | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
demands of our rising populations, the people who rely on the NHS and | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
social care when they need it most. And I have to say having been a | :09:21. | :09:23. | |
local councillor for almost seven years now, and standing down next | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
year, the situation facing local authorities is dire. Because of | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
course faced with a choice of child protection or adult social care. Of | :09:34. | :09:39. | |
course, local councils prioritise keeping children safe. And keeping | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
the Alderley and disabled alive and well. But there is a consequence, of | :09:44. | :09:49. | |
those choices, it is increase council tax for those who can ill | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
afford it and it is service cuts affect the service on put which | :09:54. | :10:00. | |
people rely. That has been the consequence, and I only wish that | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
this government would have the courage to accept 75 years on from | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
the Beveridge report, that the modern health and social care in | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
this country is no longer fit for purpose. And no longer sustainable, | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
unless it receives funding that so badly needed. Viscount understand | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
why ministers haven't simply had the courage to ask people from across | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
the house to help the government come up with a plan to help the NHS | :10:26. | :10:33. | |
be sustainable for the 21st-century. Is my honourable friend a shocked as | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
I was that it has been trailed today by the government that unless Tory | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
MPs backed down somehow the social care funding will be under threat. I | :10:43. | :10:48. | |
entirely agree, I'm not sure how many experienced wise leaders of the | :10:49. | :10:55. | |
NHS, of local councils, could come forward and warned the government | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
about not just an impending crisis, the crisis that is affecting | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
hospitals and care services today in each of our constituencies. What | :11:05. | :11:06. | |
more will it take for the government to show the courage and find the | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
money to fund social care. Imagine what cross-party commission led by | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
the likes of my honourable friend the member for Leicester West or | :11:16. | :11:17. | |
North Norfolk or the honourable member for Totnes could do to build | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
their health and social care system for the 21st century. And wasn't it | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
a travesty Madam Deputy Speaker that small budgets in our constituencies | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
are faced with cuts, that this government and Chancellor chose to | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
provide yesterday with a funding package that would | :11:36. | :11:42. | |
What do ministers have to say to the head teachers in my constituency, or | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
to the parents or the pupils that attend the vast majority of schools | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
in my constituency who are facing an average a funding cut of ?188 per | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
pupil by dear? Now, I don't need an opinion poll to tell me that whether | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
people vote Labour or Conservative there are a few things they expect | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
the Government to do. Among those things to make sure that we have | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
decent hospitals and well funded schools. And it is a scandal, is | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
gamble, so much of the educational progress in my city and across the | :12:15. | :12:17. | |
country led by the last Labour government, it is a scandal that | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
that is being put at risk because of Budget cuts to schools. What sort of | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
government chooses to cut education for the next generation whilst also | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
cutting the tax bill for the very wealthiest? Flimsiness of the Budget | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
red book, for once it didn't take long to get through it portrays the | :12:36. | :12:41. | |
fragility of our economy. In the long list of suppliers add good news | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
yesterday, there were facts that were missing. -- suppose it good | :12:46. | :12:51. | |
news. What do we have to show for this Budget? The only developed | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
country that has a growing economy but a fall in real wages, rising | :12:55. | :13:00. | |
cost of living but wages at three crash levels, a productivity gap | :13:01. | :13:02. | |
holding back growth and depressing wages. Inflation that households and | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
businesses can ill afford. A failure to meet their own targets for debt | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
and deficit reduction because the Tories have never understood the | :13:14. | :13:16. | |
need to balance spending cuts with investment for growth. A failure to | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
meet their own welfare gap because of the failure to tackle | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
unemployment, underemployment, and exploitation by employers, leaving a | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
welfare system that lacks the Howedes of the public but fails the | :13:30. | :13:33. | |
very people that need it most, the very worst of all world's. And even | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
now in the wake of a Brexit vote driven in large part by the votes of | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
people who have been left behind, we have a government willing to put | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
aside over rising child poverty, public services at breaking point, | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
and the economy will equip for the challenges that arise ahead. It | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
should not take dragging a former Prime Minister out of retirement, a | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
former Conservative Prime Minister out of retirement, to tell this | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
government the way they are handling this, the single biggest issue | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
facing this country, the departure from the European Union, should not | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
take bringing a former Prime Minister like John Major out of | :14:10. | :14:12. | |
retirement to towel this government that they are putting the economy at | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
risk with the path they are taking. What John Major said was very | :14:17. | :14:23. | |
straightforward. There is a choice to be made, a price to be paid. We | :14:24. | :14:28. | |
cannot move to a radical enterprise economy without moving away from a | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
welfare state. Such a direction of policy, once understood by the | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
public, would never, and support. It makes all previous rows over social | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
policy seem like a minor distraction -- would never command support. So | :14:43. | :14:45. | |
John Major could have been reading from the Labour Party script on this | :14:46. | :14:52. | |
issue. There we have it. A former Conservative Prime Minister, holding | :14:53. | :14:55. | |
up the truth that we on these benches know, which is that unless | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
the Government ago shakes a smooth and sensible exit from the European | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
Union, -- negotiates. They will consign this country to being a | :15:05. | :15:08. | |
small tax haven off the north-west coast of Europe, and able to meet | :15:09. | :15:12. | |
the needs of its people and unable to make sure that prosperity is | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
shared. And of course, is not just John Major that has concerns, the | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
former Chancellor, the right honourable member for Tatton, told | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
this House, this Government has chosen not to make the economy a | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
priority. Now, when so much of this country's economic success relies on | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
trade abroad, when we have the largest Single Market in the world | :15:33. | :15:40. | |
on our doorstep, when being members of the customs union gives us access | :15:41. | :15:43. | |
to more trade agreements than that enjoyed buying any other leading | :15:44. | :15:45. | |
economy in the world, for a Government to decide not to make the | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
economy a priority is reckless and irresponsible. I'm grateful to my | :15:49. | :15:58. | |
friend for giving way again. He is making a very, very powerful speech. | :15:59. | :16:04. | |
He mentioned the former Chancellor's remarks. Clearly the Goverment's | :16:05. | :16:07. | |
position is that immigration is the priority. The target of 100,000 | :16:08. | :16:16. | |
reduction of the Government seems a bit strange, given that the | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
forecasts in this document are assuming there will be 185,000 | :16:22. | :16:27. | |
migrants into this country in 2021. That is the OBR statistics on which | :16:28. | :16:31. | |
the forecasts are based. How can they reconcile the 100,000 figure | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
and the 100m 5000 figure? Surely the economy is going to be in a worse | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
position based on those facts? I agree with my honourable friend. I | :16:41. | :16:43. | |
have lost count of the number of times I have heard calls for a real | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
debate about regression, but a real debate requires an argument, and the | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
truth is this - there are undoubtedly, in communities across | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
the country, real sensitivities and concerns about immigration, not | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
least where people see and feel their own wages depressed because | :17:01. | :17:03. | |
employers are able to bring in cheaper Labour from abroad to | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
undercut the pay, terms and conditions of local workers. Now, | :17:07. | :17:12. | |
for me that is an issue of social injustice. And it is one that | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
governments need to tackle. But any politician that says that | :17:17. | :17:20. | |
immigration is a price this country can't afford most towel as in the | :17:21. | :17:24. | |
context of an ageing population and a shrinking working age population, | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
when we can barely afford the pensions bill as it is and we need a | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
greater working age population to come to this country, do their work | :17:33. | :17:37. | |
and pay their taxes, anyone who says this country must have lower | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
immigration must also come to this House and tell us how they plan to | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
pay for the public services upon which every citizen in this country | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
relies. And until we grasp the reality of the immigration debate, | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
so long as we fail to address the genuine and well founded concerns | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
about immigration, but pander to the myths about immigration, we will set | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
this country on a course that will make spore and less well off. And | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
that would be the worst possible result -- make us poorer. It would | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
be the worst response to the EU referendum. If people went to the | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
ballot box to Vote Leave European Union because they felt left behind | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
by globalisation and the world changing around them and a feeling | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
they are left behind, imagine the betrayal they will feel if they have | :18:24. | :18:33. | |
been sold the promise of a brighter future and find the jobs are drying | :18:34. | :18:36. | |
up, there economy is left behind and the public services upon which they | :18:37. | :18:38. | |
rely on decimated. I'm afraid that is the real risk of a hard Brexit. | :18:39. | :18:41. | |
And in the context of a rapidly changing global economy where jobs | :18:42. | :18:47. | |
are changing, we have huge digitalisation, a new Industrial | :18:48. | :18:49. | |
Revolution that is sweeping the country on a pace and scale we have | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
never seen before, the purpose of the Labour Party has never been more | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
relevant or urgent. More than 100 years ago, the Labour Party was | :19:00. | :19:02. | |
founded to champion the interests of Labour over the interests of | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
capital. And in a future where were we see deregulation, a loss of jobs | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
and huge sectors of the economy where jobs could be found no longer | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
existing, it is the job of the Labour Party to protect the | :19:17. | :19:19. | |
interests of labour in that time. And I have to say, when you look at | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
what this Budget did to the self-employed and of the strivers | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
and people across the private sector who make up the backbone of the | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
economy, when you look at what they are doing to public services, when | :19:32. | :19:35. | |
you look at how they are botching Brexit, it's long past time the | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
Labour Party took this lot apart. Because people across the country | :19:40. | :19:42. | |
are counting on us to be an effective opposition and an | :19:43. | :19:45. | |
alternative government. That is the job that we must face up to, and we | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
need to start doing it sooner rather than later. Norman Lamb. Thank you, | :19:50. | :19:56. | |
Madam Deputy Speaker. Can I apologise straightaway, I did at the | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
Speaker earlier to this, but I have a long-standing engagement at the | :20:02. | :20:03. | |
University of East Anglia this evening and I hope it will be OK | :20:04. | :20:06. | |
with the front benches if I am missing from the end of the debate. | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
Madam Deputy Speaker, I agreed with an awful lot of what is the last | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
Speaker spoke about in this debate, other than the fact that it is the | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
role of the Labour Party to confront the issues set out in this Budget! | :20:21. | :20:32. | |
But I wanted to focus my marks today on the contents of this Budget that | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
relate to social care and to the health service. And I wanted to | :20:38. | :20:41. | |
start by just making the very clear point that the ?1 billion | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
announcement for social care for the next financial year is wholly | :20:47. | :20:53. | |
inadequate for the needs of the social care system and for the | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
people who rely on it. And I say that because the Health Foundation | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
has been very clear that the current gap in social care is estimated to | :21:02. | :21:07. | |
be somewhere in the region of ?2 billion per year. And that is in | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
part because of the impact of the increase in the National Minimum | :21:13. | :21:15. | |
Wage, which will cost the social care system in the next financial | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
year something in the region of ?900 million. So this means no real terms | :21:20. | :21:26. | |
increase in the amount of money available to the system. And as the | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
Care Quality Commission recently confirmed, not politicians but the | :21:33. | :21:35. | |
regulator in this country, the social care system is close to | :21:36. | :21:41. | |
tipping point. There are very many providers who are now looking at | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
whether they want to withdraw from the publicly funded market of social | :21:48. | :21:51. | |
care in this country. There are other providers that are at risk of | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
going out of business. A very alarming fact is that in the north | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
of England there is very little if any investment in the new social | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
care facilities because the finances simply do not stack up. The only | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
parts of the country where investment in new social care | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
facilities makes sense is worth they can cross subsidise from wealthy | :22:14. | :22:21. | |
self funders paying for the provision of care for those who rely | :22:22. | :22:28. | |
on the state. And so we are seeing and witnessing an increasing divide | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
across our country in the quality of our social care. And for me, this is | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
simply unacceptable. There are now estimated to be over 1 billion older | :22:37. | :22:44. | |
people he will have care needs, -- 1 million. The care needs are not | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
being met either in whole or in part as a result of the reductions in | :22:49. | :22:52. | |
availability of publicly funded social care. That is disastrous for | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
those people, but it is also very stupid. Because it inevitably means | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
that more older people next financial year, from this April, | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
will end up unnecessarily in hospital because they don't have the | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
care package available to them that can keep them in good health at | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
home. More people unnecessarily in hospital means more pressure on the | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
NHS, and we have seen over the last five or six years considerable | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
increases in income for a cue the hospitals within the NHS, but demand | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
has increased even more because of the inadequacies of the social care | :23:31. | :23:39. | |
system. You are left with a sense of lurching from one crisis to another, | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
and it seems to me that there must be about approach. The Government | :23:45. | :23:47. | |
says that there will now be a green paper to address the issue of | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
funding -- there must be a more sensible approach. You go back to | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
1999, when the previous Labour governments set up a Royal | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
commission into this very subject. This is an issue that has been put | :24:01. | :24:05. | |
into the long grass now for far too long. Under the coalition, we | :24:06. | :24:11. | |
actually went out and sought the advice of a leading expert, Andrew | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
Dillon. We got his advice, we consulted on it, and we implemented | :24:17. | :24:22. | |
in legislation through the care act. The cap on care costs would have | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
introduced greater fairness into the funding of social care. The | :24:27. | :24:29. | |
Conservative government or the Conservative Party in their | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
manifesto committed to introducing the cap on care costs. And then as | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
soon as they were re-elected, within weeks of that real election, they | :24:39. | :24:44. | |
abandoned that commitment. -- within weeks of real action. Just as now | :24:45. | :24:47. | |
they are abandoning the commitment not to increase tax. They said it | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
would be delayed until 2020, but nobody at all believes that it will | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
be introduced in 2020. It is quite clearly being abandoned. So a green | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
paper, a discussion document, is not what is needed. There needs to be a | :25:02. | :25:06. | |
much greater sense of urgency. And then so far as the NHS is concerned, | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
well, we are told there is a ?325 million boost to capital spending. | :25:12. | :25:18. | |
But in this financial year, capital spending has been cut by ?1.2 | :25:19. | :25:25. | |
billion. Raided in order to fund the clearing of deficits. And with this | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
?325 million, only, we are told, between six and ten Pioneer | :25:32. | :25:38. | |
sustainability and transformation plan areas will benefit from this | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
funding. Which means that the whole of the rest of the country gets | :25:43. | :25:45. | |
knowing crease in capital investment at all. And the health service | :25:46. | :25:52. | |
Journal -- gets no increase. The health service Journal indicated | :25:53. | :25:55. | |
there will be another raid on the capital Budgets in the next | :25:56. | :25:58. | |
financial year, making the situation even worse for the rest of the | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
country. Now, in the referendum campaign, those advocating Brexit | :26:03. | :26:10. | |
argued that leaving would give this country ?350 million per week to | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
spend on the NHS. Well, this Budget offers this country, instead of ?350 | :26:15. | :26:21. | |
million per week, ?2.7 million per week in capital funding. A wholly | :26:22. | :26:28. | |
inadequate figure. And then we look at the provided deficits around the | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
country. They stand at the end of quarter three at the figure of ?886 | :26:34. | :26:40. | |
million. And that's after the injection of ?1.8 billion to clear | :26:41. | :26:47. | |
deficits from last year. And the Institute for government has today | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
confirmed that 90% of hospitals in this country face deficits. It is | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
now in damage across the system. So this Budget, it seems to me, is | :26:57. | :27:02. | |
inadequate for social care, but actually disastrous for the NHS. | :27:03. | :27:07. | |
There will be a 1% increase in funding for the NHS for 2017-18. But | :27:08. | :27:13. | |
that compares to an increase in demand of about 4%. And the next | :27:14. | :27:19. | |
financial year, there will be a reduction in spend per heard in real | :27:20. | :27:26. | |
terms on the NHS. Now, wherever you want on the political spectrum, that | :27:27. | :27:32. | |
makes absolutely no sense at all. And at a time when demand is rising | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
rapidly, to be reducing spending per head on health care in this country | :27:38. | :27:39. | |
is nonsensical. And it amounts to a reduction in the | :27:40. | :27:48. | |
percentage of our national income that we are choosing to spend on | :27:49. | :27:51. | |
health and social care. I wanted to focus... The Right Honourable member | :27:52. | :27:59. | |
brings a lot of experience from his time in the office. They were | :28:00. | :28:05. | |
advocating ?2 billion of immediate spending on social care and the NHS, | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
and ?4 billion is a lot of money, and I'm sure he has arguments as to | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
why that is needed, but could he enlighten us as to how that will be | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
raised? We have spring conference coming up and we will have proposals | :28:19. | :28:27. | |
in that regard. I'm being asked to enlighten the House. I would be | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
delighted to invite the honourable member to our conference and I'm | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
sure he would have a fine time! You'd find out very soon what our | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
proposals are. In a sense, taking up the challenge from him, I share his | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
view that we have to be responsible in how we argue for how spending | :28:45. | :28:53. | |
should be paid for, and we intend to be fully responsible in that regard, | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
and I hope that reassures him, and he will find out more details very | :29:00. | :29:06. | |
soon. I wanted to focus, Madam Deputy Speaker, for a moment on what | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
the consequences are for ordinary people of the state of our NHS and | :29:12. | :29:18. | |
our care system. The honourable gentleman has talked a lot about | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
support for people with long-term conditions. The NHS is now having to | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
cope with a dramatic increase in the number of people living with | :29:28. | :29:30. | |
long-term chronic conditions. They estimate that the increase in the | :29:31. | :29:35. | |
number of people living with three or more conditions will increase by | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
50% over a 10-year period. This is something we are witnessing now | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
which is completely unprecedented, but the failure to meet the care | :29:45. | :29:49. | |
needs of those people has disastrous consequences for many of those | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
individuals. And it was just in the last few weeks that I took up the | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
case for an individual in my constituency, an adult who suffers | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
from ADHD, and he has been referred by his HD to the adult ADHD clinic, | :30:05. | :30:09. | |
and so I wrote to the mental health trust to ask what the waiting time | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
was for his treatment, and I was told in response that the current | :30:16. | :30:19. | |
waiting time in Norfolk for the ADHD clinic is two years. Two years. What | :30:20. | :30:24. | |
on earth is that individual supposed to do in the meantime? There is, I'm | :30:25. | :30:31. | |
afraid, still a complete in equality of access to treatment between | :30:32. | :30:34. | |
mental health and physical health. It is a discrimination at the heart | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
of the NHS, and we will never address that discrimination with the | :30:40. | :30:45. | |
levels of inadequate funding that we are experiencing at the moment. I | :30:46. | :30:51. | |
have a nine-year-old boy in my constituency who has been referred | :30:52. | :30:54. | |
for diagnosis for possible autism. That family was told that the | :30:55. | :31:00. | |
waiting time for diagnosis is up to three years. Three years. I just | :31:01. | :31:04. | |
assumed that there was something appalling happening in Norfolk, but | :31:05. | :31:09. | |
when I went to the National Autistic Society to ask for more information | :31:10. | :31:12. | |
about what the situation was across the country, I was told that this is | :31:13. | :31:17. | |
very much the case across the entire country. What are we doing to our | :31:18. | :31:22. | |
children? These are children that we know, with hourly help, we could | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
make a massive difference to their life chances, and yet, we're telling | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
them that they are supposed to wait up to three years for a diagnosis, | :31:31. | :31:35. | |
let alone any treatment. This is scandalous, and we are letting down | :31:36. | :31:39. | |
some of the most vulnerable people in our country, and the really awful | :31:40. | :31:45. | |
thing is this: if you have money, you can circumvent these awful | :31:46. | :31:50. | |
waiting times. You could get a diagnosis for autism, help for your | :31:51. | :31:53. | |
son or your daughter, but if you don't have money, you are just left | :31:54. | :31:59. | |
waiting. That is unjust and unacceptable, but it is what is | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
happening in this country. And I give way. I am very grateful to him | :32:03. | :32:09. | |
for giving way. Not only is it a great injustice on these young | :32:10. | :32:13. | |
people, it is also hugely costly to the taxpayer, because if you fail | :32:14. | :32:16. | |
young people in their formative years and failed to break down the | :32:17. | :32:23. | |
barriers, you end up with more in terms of unemployment and the costs | :32:24. | :32:27. | |
of further mental ill-health and a breakdown of social life later on. I | :32:28. | :32:32. | |
totally agree with him. It's an absolute false economy. We know that | :32:33. | :32:38. | |
75% of mental ill-health starts before the age of 18. Under the | :32:39. | :32:44. | |
coalition, we secured ?1.25 billion over a five-year period in the final | :32:45. | :32:48. | |
budget for children and young people's mental health, and yet the | :32:49. | :32:53. | |
Young Minds survey just before Christmas showed that not all of the | :32:54. | :32:59. | |
money is getting through to be spent on children's mental health because | :33:00. | :33:03. | |
it is being diverted to other parts of the NHS that are under impossible | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
strain. This is scandalous, and it's outrageous that children with mental | :33:08. | :33:12. | |
ill-health are being let down in this way. I give way. Thank you, | :33:13. | :33:18. | |
Madam Deputy Speaker, and I thank the Right Honourable gentleman for | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
allowing me to intervene. I have some experience of autism, not me | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
personally, but in my family, and I have always thought that it doesn't | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
take very much to diagnose autism. It's not a costly affair, and it can | :33:33. | :33:36. | |
be done quite quickly, so I don't quite understand the three-year | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
waiting list, but perhaps the right honourable gentleman has more | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
experience than me on this. I am very grateful, and he is right - | :33:46. | :33:50. | |
through, in part, better organisation, we could help to solve | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
this problem. I have had an 11-year-old girl in my constituency | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
referred to the mental health trust, and instead of the mental health | :34:00. | :34:03. | |
team having people trained in the diagnosis of autism, she has been | :34:04. | :34:07. | |
referred to another trust to go onto a waiting list for a diagnosis. This | :34:08. | :34:14. | |
is hopeless, a silo mentality in the NHS. In part, it is a failure to | :34:15. | :34:21. | |
invest sufficiently in those good diagnostic services, but it is also | :34:22. | :34:25. | |
a failure of organisation. Some other examples of the extent to | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
which this system is now under impossible pressure. 197,100 laid | :34:30. | :34:38. | |
days -- delayed days, delayed discharges, in January of this year, | :34:39. | :34:43. | |
up 23% from January of last year. The delays in mental health | :34:44. | :34:50. | |
discharge are even worse, up 56% in the number of days left through | :34:51. | :34:59. | |
delayed discharges in the year to October 2016. With regard to | :35:00. | :35:02. | |
ambulances coming to collect people who are sometimes acutely ill with | :35:03. | :35:08. | |
their lives at risk, there is a target for responding. 75% of those | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
cases where the person's life is at risk should be responded to within | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
eight minutes, and yet, that target has been missed since May 2016, 20 | :35:19. | :35:26. | |
months. In stroke care, we all know that your chances of survival, and | :35:27. | :35:31. | |
of avoiding long-term disability, depend on you getting to a | :35:32. | :35:36. | |
specialist unit within 60 minutes. It's called the Golden hour. Well, | :35:37. | :35:42. | |
in the last year, in my constituency, 18% of stroke patients | :35:43. | :35:49. | |
got to the specialist unit within that gold an hour. That is, again, a | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
scandalous failure of a health system in this day and age. And in | :35:55. | :36:04. | |
A, 85% of patients attending A scene in January, way below the | :36:05. | :36:11. | |
national target of 95%. And in cancer services, treatment starting | :36:12. | :36:17. | |
within 62 days of referral, now the target being missed in too many | :36:18. | :36:25. | |
cases. It should be 85% being met within 62 days. It was down to 79.7% | :36:26. | :36:32. | |
of patients. And this leads to a real concern that I have, because if | :36:33. | :36:41. | |
you have, yourself or a loved one, suspected cancer, and you are | :36:42. | :36:44. | |
worried about whether you will be seen on time, whether you will start | :36:45. | :36:48. | |
your treatment on time, if you have money, you will choose to opt out of | :36:49. | :36:52. | |
these waiting times. He will get treatment privately. And when we | :36:53. | :36:58. | |
talk about privatisation, I think a debate that often takes us down a | :36:59. | :37:05. | |
ridiculous cul-de-sac, the actual privatisation that is happening is | :37:06. | :37:08. | |
that increasing numbers of people with money are choosing to opt out | :37:09. | :37:11. | |
of long waiting times, and they are getting their treatment privately. | :37:12. | :37:17. | |
Now, I find that intolerable and insidious, because it means that | :37:18. | :37:21. | |
people with money will get access to treatment quickly, and people who | :37:22. | :37:24. | |
don't have the money will be left waiting. I think that, Madam Deputy | :37:25. | :37:33. | |
Speaker, is intolerable. The Government, or NHS England, has now | :37:34. | :37:39. | |
established the process of sustainability and transformation | :37:40. | :37:42. | |
plans. The Kings Fund takes the view that without heroic assumptions | :37:43. | :37:50. | |
about efficiency savings between now and 2020, in each of the footprints | :37:51. | :37:56. | |
of the SDPs, they are likely to be hundreds of millions of pounds short | :37:57. | :38:03. | |
of the money required. These SDPs, they are a good, sensible process of | :38:04. | :38:07. | |
bringing health and social care, and they are based, sadly, on a fantasy | :38:08. | :38:12. | |
or simply insufficient resources being available. And with all of | :38:13. | :38:18. | |
those examples of what I've given to the House, it seems to me that | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
failures of care are now becoming endemic across the system, and that | :38:23. | :38:27. | |
is in stark contrast with the Secretary of State's commitment to | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
make the NHS the safest health care system in the world. It is | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
impossible to achieve that, given the extent to which failures of care | :38:36. | :38:41. | |
are now becoming commonplace. Madam Deputy Speaker, there is an | :38:42. | :38:47. | |
alternative to this sense of a Government lurching from crisis to | :38:48. | :38:54. | |
crisis, using sticking plasters to avert total collapse in the system. | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
The approach that the Government should be taking is to be prepared | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
to work with others, as has been the case, including indicated by the | :39:04. | :39:07. | |
previous bicker, to work with others to come up with a long-term, | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
sustainable settlement. The NHS and the care system was designed in the | :39:12. | :39:17. | |
1940s, at a time when the needs of this country are wholly -- at a time | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
when the needs of this country were wholly different from today. The | :39:23. | :39:26. | |
need for the whole system to be refreshed, it seems to me, is | :39:27. | :39:31. | |
overwhelming. I got together a group of Conservative, Labour and Lib Dem | :39:32. | :39:37. | |
MPs to make the case to the Prime Minister for establishing an NHS and | :39:38. | :39:41. | |
care convention, to engage with the public and with staff in the NHS and | :39:42. | :39:45. | |
the care system, so that we can have a mature debate in this country | :39:46. | :39:52. | |
about how we achieve a sustainable, efficient and effective health and | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
care system to meet the needs of our loved ones in their hour of need. | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
The Prime Minister has met with us, and she has sanctioned the start of | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
a dialogue about what we're proposing. We are due to meet with | :40:05. | :40:09. | |
the Prime Minister's health adviser, James Kent, and I welcome that. But | :40:10. | :40:13. | |
the fact that the Government has now announced a Green paper for social | :40:14. | :40:18. | |
care, continuing this silo mentality, looking at one side or | :40:19. | :40:21. | |
the other, leaves me with this sense that the Government does not appear | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
to be wholly serious about engaging with this group of MPs on what I | :40:28. | :40:33. | |
think is absolutely necessary. The truth is that partisan politics has | :40:34. | :40:37. | |
failed to come up with a solution for the needs of this country in | :40:38. | :40:41. | |
terms of its health and care system, and that is in part because all of | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
the solutions are actually rather difficult, as the honourable | :40:47. | :40:49. | |
gentleman indicated from opposite. It probably involves us all being | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
prepared to pay a bit more tax to ensure that we have a health and | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
care system that we can rely on and be confident that it will respond in | :40:59. | :41:08. | |
our hour of need. Thank you to the honourable gentleman forgiving way. | :41:09. | :41:11. | |
The Right Honourable gentleman's group of MPs from across the House, | :41:12. | :41:15. | |
are they looking at other sort of models, like the German model of how | :41:16. | :41:22. | |
they provide health care on their equivalent of the NHS, which is a | :41:23. | :41:28. | |
combination of Private and national means? Because this seems to me to | :41:29. | :41:32. | |
be something that we will have to seriously consider in order to get a | :41:33. | :41:35. | |
really first-class National Health Service. I thank him for that | :41:36. | :41:40. | |
intervention. The interesting thing is that the Germans spend about a | :41:41. | :41:45. | |
third more than we do on their health system, and they have an | :41:46. | :41:49. | |
effective health and care system as a result of that. What we have done | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
at the moment, and I would invite the honourable gentleman to join | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
with us on this, is that we all acknowledge that this is difficult, | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
that it involves acute politics, that there is an enormous risk of | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
people just shouting at each other, and instead of that, we have come | :42:09. | :42:12. | |
together to say, let opt for a more rational approach where we all agree | :42:13. | :42:17. | |
that we should be bound into a process, lasting perhaps up to a | :42:18. | :42:21. | |
year, where we engage with the public on the sort of debate that he | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
raises there. Let's have an open discussion about how we sustain | :42:27. | :42:29. | |
their health and care system. I want to ensure that whatever emerges from | :42:30. | :42:32. | |
that is a system which is accessible to anyone in this country, | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
irrespective of their ability to pay. That was the founding principle | :42:37. | :42:41. | |
of the NHS, and it remains true, it seems to be, to this day. | :42:42. | :42:46. | |
Along with advocating for the case for parties working together to | :42:47. | :42:53. | |
resolve this intractable problem, my party, the Liberal Democrats, are | :42:54. | :42:56. | |
continuing to do our work on developing our own ideas. I | :42:57. | :43:01. | |
established last autumn and expert panel, an independent expert panel, | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
to look specifically at the case for a dedicated, a hypoxic aged NHS and | :43:06. | :43:12. | |
care tax. And I was fascinated that in yesterday's Times, the leading | :43:13. | :43:15. | |
Conservative thinker Lord Finkelstein advocated exactly what I | :43:16. | :43:23. | |
have been proposing. And it seems to me that there is a growing view or a | :43:24. | :43:28. | |
growing interest in this sort of solution. If you could have an OBE | :43:29. | :43:35. | |
for health, a process of making an independent assessment of the needs | :43:36. | :43:39. | |
of the health and care system -- and OBR. Full funding over a given | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
period, and if that would then inform the level of dedicated health | :43:45. | :43:47. | |
and care tax that you expect people to pay, shown on their pay packets, | :43:48. | :43:52. | |
it seems to me that we could rebuild trust in the public and they would | :43:53. | :43:56. | |
have the confidence that the amount they are being asked to page was | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
what was necessary. It is interesting that in the German | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
system, the social insurance premiums have actually kept pace | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
with demand better than our tax funded system. I think that he | :44:11. | :44:14. | |
hypothecated tax, so that people could see exactly what was going | :44:15. | :44:17. | |
into the health care system, achieves the benefits of the German | :44:18. | :44:22. | |
system, but stays true to our ideal of a tax funded health and care | :44:23. | :44:29. | |
system. And it seems to me that with people very anxious and nervous | :44:30. | :44:32. | |
about governments misusing their hard earned taxes, having a process | :44:33. | :44:41. | |
of independent assessment would make an awful lot of sense. So, can this | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
Government, Madam Deputy Speaker, not rise to the challenge of | :44:47. | :44:53. | |
reviewing a system, as I say, designed in the 1940s, a time wholly | :44:54. | :44:59. | |
different to the needs of today? It seems to me that we are collectively | :45:00. | :45:04. | |
in this Parliament badly letting down the people of this country. We | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
are the sixth largest economy in the world, and yet we have a health and | :45:10. | :45:13. | |
care system that is on its knees, that too often is dysfunctional. I | :45:14. | :45:17. | |
think we are capable of better than that. It undermines, it seems to me, | :45:18. | :45:22. | |
people's faith in politics to be able to resolve the big challenges | :45:23. | :45:27. | |
of our age. And it would increase the beliefs, if the Government | :45:28. | :45:33. | |
simply persists in going it alone, without properly addressing this, it | :45:34. | :45:36. | |
will increase the belief that the Government actually has a hidden | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
agenda, that it wants to run the NHS down in order to destroy it. So my | :45:42. | :45:47. | |
plea to the Government is, don't allow that belief in a hidden agenda | :45:48. | :45:53. | |
to grow. Engage with us, have a mature discussion with the public. | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
Demonstrate a commitment to a process of renewal of this great | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
institution, because the country, the people of this country, depend | :46:03. | :46:10. | |
on is meeting this challenge. Order. Believe it or not, having started | :46:11. | :46:13. | |
off with a lot of time for this debate, speeches do tend to expand | :46:14. | :46:21. | |
to fill the time available. And so I must now ask if colleagues, being | :46:22. | :46:31. | |
honourable and decent to other colleagues, will please take no more | :46:32. | :46:36. | |
than 12 minutes each. 12 minutes is a very long time. And I'm... I know | :46:37. | :46:47. | |
that I can rely on Mr Keith Vaz, who can count, and will no when 12 | :46:48. | :46:55. | |
minutes has expired. Keith Vaz. Madam Deputy Speaker, thank you for | :46:56. | :46:58. | |
that endorsement that I can count, I am most grateful! It is a pleasure | :46:59. | :47:01. | |
to follow the honourable member for North Norfolk. He is widely | :47:02. | :47:05. | |
respected in this House as somebody who knows a huge amount about social | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
care and the health service. And what he has to say about his project | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
is I think welcome right all sides. We do need an independent assessment | :47:15. | :47:19. | |
of health spending. There is a marvellous cartoon in the Times | :47:20. | :47:24. | |
today, Madam Deputy Speaker, of the Chancellor dressed up as Marilyn | :47:25. | :47:30. | |
Monroe, showing his Nics. I don't know whether Miss Monroe, she has | :47:31. | :47:34. | |
been deceased for some years, could sue for that cartoon, but I want to | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
take the debate away from a discussion on National Insurance | :47:39. | :47:41. | |
contributions, because it has dominated the discussion, to other | :47:42. | :47:45. | |
areas. Because I think it is important that we remember that the | :47:46. | :47:49. | |
Budget is about funding the whole of government, not just one aspect, | :47:50. | :47:52. | |
although of course it is important to raise the money first before you | :47:53. | :47:57. | |
spend it. And I want to begin by talking about the Prime Minister, | :47:58. | :48:06. | |
and confirmed by the Chancellor, concerning international aid. And I | :48:07. | :48:13. | |
was pleased to note that the 0.7% of GNI is, remains a strong commitment | :48:14. | :48:19. | |
of this Government. Even though in fact less time was spent in the | :48:20. | :48:24. | |
Budget speech on international development than was spent by the | :48:25. | :48:27. | |
Chancellor on praising his Parliamentary Private Secretary, the | :48:28. | :48:37. | |
very worthy member. By. However, -- member for Soulsby. He went past the | :48:38. | :48:40. | |
development commitment very, very quickly. He rightly lavished praise | :48:41. | :48:44. | |
on the honourable gentleman for what he has done. However, I want to talk | :48:45. | :48:48. | |
about the aid Budget and I want to talk about the importance of | :48:49. | :48:52. | |
maintaining that aid Budget, and increasing it. Especially at a time | :48:53. | :48:58. | |
when there is a great deal of media pressure and scrutiny over what we | :48:59. | :49:02. | |
do with our aid. It is right that there should be that scrutiny, | :49:03. | :49:07. | |
however, I think in some sections of the media, there is the obsession | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
with challenging every single bit of expenditure as if in some way this | :49:13. | :49:17. | |
undermines the principle, the important principle, that our | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
Government provides aid to those countries in need. In particular, I | :49:22. | :49:25. | |
want to highlight the aid that is given by the Treasury through the | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
Department for International Development to Yemen. We heard only | :49:30. | :49:34. | |
today that there is now a famine in Yemen. Of the aid that we currently | :49:35. | :49:42. | |
give to the overall differed Budget, 100 million has been committed to | :49:43. | :49:46. | |
the people of Yemen. However, although contributions have been | :49:47. | :49:53. | |
made at a local level, sadly, a lot of this money cannot be delivered | :49:54. | :49:58. | |
because of the current situation. So, my message to Treasury ministers | :49:59. | :50:02. | |
is to keep up with that commitment to fund Dfid, to make sure Dfid | :50:03. | :50:11. | |
delivers to countries that are made so much in need, such as Yemen, and | :50:12. | :50:16. | |
that it doesn't just sit in a bank but that it actually gets spent. And | :50:17. | :50:21. | |
that the moment, until we have that ceasefire in Yemen, we will not be | :50:22. | :50:24. | |
able to spend that money, and therefore we will not be able to | :50:25. | :50:28. | |
alleviate that poverty. I give way. Thank you for giving way briefly. I | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
concur with the comments about the importance of the work that Dfid | :50:33. | :50:36. | |
doing in Yemen and the support they have provided, it has been praised | :50:37. | :50:39. | |
by the International development committee. Does he share my concern | :50:40. | :50:44. | |
is that while we are providing that aid, the Saudi-led coalition, | :50:45. | :50:46. | |
Amnesty International, said today, that they are using cluster | :50:47. | :50:54. | |
Munitions. The honourable gentleman is an amazing campaigner on these | :50:55. | :50:57. | |
issues and has worked very hard on the Yemen issue. He raises this | :50:58. | :51:02. | |
rightly. This is part of the overall debate and discussion. You can't get | :51:03. | :51:06. | |
the aid through unless the bombing stops. And that is why we need that | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
ceasefire, so that the 100 marine pounds that has been committed is | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
spent. I bumped into the Secretary of State in Central Lobby yesterday, | :51:15. | :51:18. | |
the Secretary of State for Dfid. She's edgy was focused on and | :51:19. | :51:23. | |
committing -- she's said that she was focused on the amount of aid the | :51:24. | :51:28. | |
Yemen, but it cannot get through unless the bombing stops. We have | :51:29. | :51:35. | |
heard a lot about... I thank the honourable gentleman for giving way, | :51:36. | :51:39. | |
because he and I have a great interest in Yemen, both of us having | :51:40. | :51:43. | |
lived there. My concern is, if we don't keep it in the bank, we don't | :51:44. | :51:48. | |
particularly want it to be on some quayside in some dodgy port where it | :51:49. | :51:55. | |
can be rifled by the Mafia. It is a balance we've got to find when we | :51:56. | :51:59. | |
are talking about delivering aid, particularly to somewhere like | :52:00. | :52:03. | |
Yemen, where you can put it into the country, maybe, but there it sits | :52:04. | :52:09. | |
and someone then steals it. He has served in Yemen and he knows how | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
lovely that country is when it is fully functioning, and he's | :52:14. | :52:16. | |
absolutely right, it needs to get to the people that actually need it to | :52:17. | :52:19. | |
avoid the famine that is coming its way very shortly. The second point I | :52:20. | :52:24. | |
want to make, Madam Deputy Speaker, is about the Midlands engine. We | :52:25. | :52:28. | |
have heard all about Birmingham and the West Midlands, I'm sure it has | :52:29. | :52:33. | |
nothing to do with the fact that it is an election for mayor and that | :52:34. | :52:37. | |
every! But people need to remember, the Government needs to remember, | :52:38. | :52:43. | |
that there is more to the Midlands and Birmingham and other parts of | :52:44. | :52:46. | |
the West Midlands, there is of course Leicester and the East | :52:47. | :52:52. | |
Midlands. There is Sherwood. I received a letter from the Secretary | :52:53. | :52:57. | |
of State for communities just now on my iPad, and Sherwood isn't even | :52:58. | :53:01. | |
mentioned. I hope that the honourable member will make | :53:02. | :53:04. | |
representations about that, because if we are only going to talk about | :53:05. | :53:08. | |
the Midlands engine in respect of Birmingham and the West Midlands, | :53:09. | :53:12. | |
then I think we are losing out in respect of a part of the Midlands | :53:13. | :53:18. | |
that has been the driving force for business. There is huge amounts of | :53:19. | :53:23. | |
talent and enterprise and expertise in so many small businesses in a | :53:24. | :53:27. | |
place like Leicester. It is important that we spread the money | :53:28. | :53:32. | |
out evenly throughout the whole of the Midlands. Now, I mentioned the | :53:33. | :53:36. | |
Minister who is at the dispatch box sitting near the dispatch box | :53:37. | :53:41. | |
earlier on as my favourite diabetes Minister, and I pay tribute for all | :53:42. | :53:46. | |
of the work that she has done in the years that she has served in the | :53:47. | :53:49. | |
Department for health, along with the member for North Norfolk. It was | :53:50. | :53:53. | |
last year's Budget that gave us the sugar tax, and as a result of the | :53:54. | :53:57. | |
sugar tax, which was actually resisted by some in government, that | :53:58. | :54:04. | |
we have manufacturers now changing their formulas to ensure that, yes, | :54:05. | :54:10. | |
less tax will be yielded from the sugar tax when it comes into effect, | :54:11. | :54:16. | |
but actually, for our young people in particular, they will be able to | :54:17. | :54:19. | |
eat products that have got less sugar in them. The latest commended | :54:20. | :54:25. | |
by myself in an early day motion is of course Honey monster paths, that | :54:26. | :54:32. | |
averages their sugar content for their breakfast cereal by 25%. | :54:33. | :54:38. | |
Nestle announced yesterday, just before the Budget, that it would be | :54:39. | :54:43. | |
reducing the sugar content of Kit Kat and other products by 10%. Those | :54:44. | :54:47. | |
of us who frequently have to go to the tearoom to be met by all of | :54:48. | :54:50. | |
those KitKats sitting over there, I am sure we are not seduced by those | :54:51. | :54:56. | |
who run the tearoom, will be pleased to know that you probably were even | :54:57. | :54:59. | |
taste the difference if 10% of the sugar is reduced from that content. | :55:00. | :55:04. | |
However, it remains the case that what I would have liked to have seen | :55:05. | :55:10. | |
is more focus on prevention. Prevention, prevention, profession. | :55:11. | :55:14. | |
We spend money now, we will save money in the future. As we know, ?10 | :55:15. | :55:20. | |
billion was spent last year on dealing with diabetes and diabetes | :55:21. | :55:28. | |
related expenditure. 80% are avoidable complications. And the | :55:29. | :55:32. | |
only people who appear to be benefiting from this expenditure are | :55:33. | :55:36. | |
in fact the drugs companies. Only two weeks ago, on my way back from | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
Yemen, I stopped in Doha. Where I was taken, and I note the member | :55:42. | :55:46. | |
will be fascinated by this because she has always wanted to create | :55:47. | :55:51. | |
something like this, to a wellness centre that didn't just have a GP in | :55:52. | :55:56. | |
it and a pharmacy and a podiatrist and ophthalmologists, but it also | :55:57. | :56:00. | |
had a swimming pool, and it had a gym. So when you go to see your | :56:01. | :56:05. | |
doctor, and you are about to be diagnosed or you have been diagnosed | :56:06. | :56:11. | |
with diabetes, instead of you having to have, you are prescribed a | :56:12. | :56:17. | |
session in the gym, or you are prescribed, if you can swim, sadly I | :56:18. | :56:22. | |
can't swim, but if I was able to, a session in the swimming pool. That | :56:23. | :56:26. | |
is the way in which we deal with diabetes and preventing diabetes, | :56:27. | :56:33. | |
through prevention expenditure. And in her wind-up, I would very much | :56:34. | :56:37. | |
like to hear a commitment from the Minister that prevention is going to | :56:38. | :56:42. | |
be top of the agenda as far as health is concerned. Two final | :56:43. | :56:46. | |
points. First of all on police funding. I was very surprised that | :56:47. | :56:52. | |
the Chancellor did not suggest an increase in funding for the Home | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
Office. Because they face two very difficult challenges. Last week, | :56:58. | :57:02. | |
HMRC released a report on British policing, which described, and I | :57:03. | :57:09. | |
quote, that it is in a potentially perilous state due to dangerous or | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
disturbing practices. Now, the report itself is pretty damning. But | :57:14. | :57:19. | |
I think unfair in that it places the burden on the police forces | :57:20. | :57:24. | |
themselves. Actually, they have sustained enormous amounts of cuts | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
to their Budgets over the last few years. And that means we are 19,000 | :57:30. | :57:34. | |
fewer police officers on our streets today. Other cuts in services to the | :57:35. | :57:41. | |
police means that they cannot deliver on the kind of agenda that I | :57:42. | :57:45. | |
know the Government and certainly the opposition want to see them | :57:46. | :57:49. | |
deliver on, we are constantly told that crime is coming down. Well, it | :57:50. | :57:54. | |
is coming down, but actually there few officers, the nature of crime | :57:55. | :57:58. | |
has changed, it has gone from the High Street into cyberspace, lots of | :57:59. | :58:04. | |
crimes, hundreds of thousands of crimes are now being committed on | :58:05. | :58:11. | |
the internet, and unless we give the police more money, in order to fund | :58:12. | :58:16. | |
training, we are not going to be able to deal with the kinds of | :58:17. | :58:20. | |
crimes that are going to be inherent in our system over the next few | :58:21. | :58:22. | |
years. 'S the second aspect of Home Office | :58:23. | :58:30. | |
funding is that the Government, we knowingly" will have to give | :58:31. | :58:34. | |
guarantee about the rights of EU citizens to remain in this country. | :58:35. | :58:38. | |
There are 3.2 million who will have to be processed. Of course, if you | :58:39. | :58:41. | |
have been here for five years, you have a right to remain here. You can | :58:42. | :58:46. | |
become a permanent citizen, but you still have to apply and get your | :58:47. | :58:51. | |
letter confirming this. The current waiting time is between four and | :58:52. | :58:53. | |
seven months. The number of documents you have to fill in to | :58:54. | :58:58. | |
confirm that you have been living here over the last five years is | :58:59. | :59:03. | |
huge. You need every single absence from this country over the last five | :59:04. | :59:09. | |
years. And what we need is a unit to be set up in the Home Office, | :59:10. | :59:14. | |
properly funded, that can deal with the registration of EU citizens. | :59:15. | :59:18. | |
Now, ministers may be grimacing at this prospect, but I'm afraid we're | :59:19. | :59:22. | |
going to have to spend money to make sure this happens. Finally, on | :59:23. | :59:28. | |
policing, we need to get the police funding formula in place, both in | :59:29. | :59:31. | |
Essex, Madam Deputy Speaker, which is run by your Chief Constable | :59:32. | :59:36. | |
Stephen Kavanagh, and in Leicester, where it is run by my Chief | :59:37. | :59:44. | |
Constable, Simon Cole. There is a need to have a definitive statement | :59:45. | :59:47. | |
of what the police funding formula is going to be. Unless we have this | :59:48. | :59:54. | |
formula, we simply don't know how much money is available at a local | :59:55. | :59:58. | |
level in order to spend on local matters. And that is why I think it | :59:59. | :00:04. | |
is essential that we make sure that that happens. My very final point, | :00:05. | :00:10. | |
and I am within your 12 minutes, Madam Deputy Speaker... Oh, almost! | :00:11. | :00:20. | |
Maybe I can't count! Is a great feature of the previous Chancellor's | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
Budgets is that he always had a surprise concerning culture. On the | :00:26. | :00:33. | |
last occasion, he funded a commitment to Hull because they had | :00:34. | :00:39. | |
become the City of Culture. I hope we will look at what can be done for | :00:40. | :00:47. | |
Leicester, giving given that they are current holders of the Premier | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
League trophy. It would be nice to see some kind of commitment... I | :00:52. | :01:07. | |
hope than the -- I hope the Minister will consider something for | :01:08. | :01:14. | |
Leicester. Can I just say that I think it is fair to comment that | :01:15. | :01:17. | |
this particular Budget hasn't met with an alloy joy and enthusiasm | :01:18. | :01:25. | |
across the country and in the media, and it may come as a surprise for | :01:26. | :01:32. | |
the House that I am actually going to demonstrate a degree of | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
enthusiasm for one particular piece of the Budget that I do think is | :01:36. | :01:44. | |
highly commendable. I am, of course, talking about 5.10 on page 48 of the | :01:45. | :01:52. | |
Redbook, where the Chancellor commits himself to reducing the | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
burden on small cooperatives. I am enthusiastic about that. Personally, | :01:59. | :02:10. | |
what is being proposed was in my ten minute rule Bill that I brought into | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
the house on the 8th of November. Could I put on record my | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
appreciation to the economic secretary who is in his place for | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
discussing the implications of it with me afterwards, and say how much | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
I welcomer and appreciate it being incorporated into this Budget. Can I | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
also gently remind him that I made a couple of other recommendations | :02:35. | :02:38. | |
during the same ten minute rule Bill that have yet to appear in the | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
Budget, and I do hope that following further consultations, I will be | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
able to praise him in future budget debates for implementing them as | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
well. And could I make as a general point that I hope this will be a | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
precedent for the Government opposite, and the Treasury in | :02:57. | :02:59. | |
particular, listening to members on this side of the House and | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
implementing some of the recommendations that they made, | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
because I am sure it will benefit Budgets greatly in the future. My | :03:08. | :03:14. | |
second issue, which again, is not totally critical of the Government, | :03:15. | :03:21. | |
is to put on record my appreciation of the so-called Midlands Engine, | :03:22. | :03:30. | |
the report that has been issued today, which not only recognises the | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
role which the West Midlands has within the national economy, and the | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
phenomenal, high-quality manufacturing base that it has, | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
which is driving the economy, and above all, driving our exports, but | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
also identifies the long-standing issues that are prevalent in the | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
economy which need to be addressed if we are to reach our potential | :03:58. | :04:03. | |
within the West Midlands area. And those, of course, are low | :04:04. | :04:13. | |
productivity, skills, and difficulty with connectivity and transport | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
infrastructure. Whilst I welcome the proposals, and the money which is | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
being invested in it, can I make a couple of qualifying points, because | :04:23. | :04:29. | |
I think there is very real danger that the potential benefit that | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
accrues from this particular project could be undermined by some of the | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
proposals which are contained within the Budget. The first is that if we | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
are to improve our transport infrastructure, then that requires | :04:43. | :04:50. | |
skills in construction, in particular, to be sustained. At the | :04:51. | :04:58. | |
moment, something like 10% of the construction workforce consists of | :04:59. | :05:07. | |
employees from outside of this country. If in the ensuing Brexit | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
negotiations their position and the ability of construction firms to | :05:13. | :05:20. | |
employ others to sustain the policies and extra investment that | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
is being put into the West Midlands, that could undermine the ability of | :05:25. | :05:30. | |
the Midlands Engine to reach its full potential. So, I do emphasise | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
that within the negotiation on Brexit that takes place, there must | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
be a provision for the construction industry to recruit personnel to | :05:41. | :05:49. | |
fulfil those projects. The second point I would make is about | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
education and skills, particularly relevant in my constituency and the | :05:55. | :06:01. | |
Black Country. On the 24th of March, I am due to meet local headteachers | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
to discuss the funding problems that they have in their schools, | :06:07. | :06:12. | |
notwithstanding all the fine words that have been made about the Pupil | :06:13. | :06:19. | |
Premium etc. Whilst in the Midlands Engine there is provision for | :06:20. | :06:28. | |
promoting skills and science -based education, there is absolutely no | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
point in putting that money in if we are not providing adequate funding | :06:33. | :06:41. | |
at the original levels of education in primary and secondary school in | :06:42. | :06:48. | |
order to ensure an adequate level of literacy, numeracy and other | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
qualifications necessary to make the most of the money that the Midlands | :06:52. | :06:58. | |
Engine is going to put in. At the moment, I think there is a question | :06:59. | :07:06. | |
over whether that is such, and when I meet those headteachers, I very | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
much guess that one of the things that will annoy them, it annoys me | :07:11. | :07:18. | |
and a lot of people in the Black Country, is the Government's | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
preoccupation with investing in unwanted selective schools whilst | :07:25. | :07:30. | |
they neglect to invest appropriate levels in our existing school | :07:31. | :07:36. | |
estate. I point to a National Audit Office report which says that | :07:37. | :07:44. | |
immediately there is a ?1 billion need for investment in our existing | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
school estate, to deal with immediate problems, and certainly, | :07:50. | :07:55. | |
there are schools within my constituency that do need immediate | :07:56. | :08:06. | |
investment. If that money is being put to promote new, selective | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
schools, then you are, quite frankly, distorting and failing to | :08:11. | :08:20. | |
realise the potential that there is from the pupils who attend the | :08:21. | :08:30. | |
existing state school system, and the state school estate. I think | :08:31. | :08:36. | |
that this is totally unacceptable. It is unwanted and really sticks in | :08:37. | :08:44. | |
the craw of those people, day in, day out, who are trying to give our | :08:45. | :08:51. | |
children the best education within the education system. I note in the | :08:52. | :09:06. | |
Budget, that the new schools will average 3 million each. For the | :09:07. | :09:14. | |
existing estate, over the course of three years, will get an extra | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
?21,000. That is a huge disparity which is bound to prejudice the life | :09:21. | :09:23. | |
opportunities of the many millions of students that are going into our | :09:24. | :09:31. | |
existing state schools. If I can move on, whatever the fine words | :09:32. | :09:43. | |
that the Chancellor used, and he could, shall we say, tell a good | :09:44. | :09:52. | |
story, the fact is, however much he packages the statistics that the | :09:53. | :10:06. | |
Budget is based on, the reality is that the previous Tory led | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
Government, and so far this Government, have failed. The public | :10:10. | :10:15. | |
sector deficit, which we must remember what is supposed to be | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
eliminated by 2015, will certainly not be eliminated by 2021, and may | :10:21. | :10:30. | |
well still be with us in 2025. Now, whatever happened to the long-term | :10:31. | :10:37. | |
plan that was the mantra of the Tory led Government up to 2015 and the | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
carefully choreographed comments that were made by every supporter of | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
that Government as a basis for demonstrating the effectiveness or | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
otherwise of their economic policy? The fact is, I don't recall anybody | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
saying that that long-term plan might actually last until 2015. | :10:57. | :11:05. | |
Indeed, now it's disappeared, it's evaporated, it's disappeared from | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
the political lexicon of this House. It would be laughable were it not | :11:10. | :11:15. | |
for the fact that so many people, millions of people, have enjoyed | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
cuts in their wages. They have endured cuts in their public | :11:22. | :11:28. | |
services, and in some cases, very real hardship indeed. As a result of | :11:29. | :11:35. | |
that, we are now facing what I would call the perfect storm. We have the | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
cumulative failure of austerity policies which have failed to | :11:42. | :11:44. | |
generate the necessary tax receipts to pay off an adequate amount of our | :11:45. | :11:51. | |
public debt. We have the increased demand placed on our public | :11:52. | :11:54. | |
services, particularly social services and health, but in | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
education as well, which will have to be met, one way or another, over | :12:01. | :12:08. | |
the next few years. And then, of course, we have the uncertainty | :12:09. | :12:09. | |
generated by Brexit. I couldn't help but be amazed by the | :12:10. | :12:23. | |
phraseology used by the Chancellor over his decision to waive future | :12:24. | :12:31. | |
fiscal targets in order to make available more money for what I | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
think was originally called a fighting fund or war chest arising | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
from Brexit. My understanding of either a fighting fund or a war | :12:42. | :12:47. | |
chest is that this is money that is put away from existing consumption | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
to use for the future and any problems that arise, rather than | :12:51. | :12:56. | |
looking to the future, agreeing to keep debts on future generations to | :12:57. | :13:04. | |
pay for the mistakes made in the present and the result of Brexit | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
arising from this Government policy. So, Madam Deputy Speaker, I would | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
have liked to have gone on, but I will try to stick to the 12 minute | :13:15. | :13:22. | |
limit. The Government is now failing to address the big issues which have | :13:23. | :13:33. | |
arisen from its failure to deal with public spending, the economy, over | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
the last seven years. My honourable friend from Wallasey outlined her | :13:38. | :13:42. | |
particular disappointment with the failure to recognise this and take | :13:43. | :13:46. | |
the necessary big steps that have to be made in order to address it. I | :13:47. | :13:53. | |
concur with that. In this respect I think the Budget is a major failure. | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
It is a sticking plaster Budget. It spends money just to avert a crisis, | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
without examining the underlying crises and the policies needed to | :14:06. | :14:09. | |
address those crises for the benefit of everybody in the long run. I | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
appreciate some honourable members have been sitting here all | :14:16. | :14:18. | |
afternoon. And there is something a little unfair, but so lovely, I'm | :14:19. | :14:25. | |
afraid we have to now limit people to ten minutes. Seema Malhotra. | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, thank you for the opportunity to | :14:31. | :14:33. | |
speak today and make a contribution to today's Budget debate. It is fair | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
to say that the headlines today haven't gone perhaps as the | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
Chancellor might have planned. Speight van man, Tories break tax | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
foul, Phil picks a pocket or two, Rob the builder, White Van man gets | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
battered by Budget, and that's just to name a few. It is a good example | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
of how when you do things in a hurry you get things wrong. The Chancellor | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
got it wrong yesterday, and if he takes anything away from the last 24 | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
hours it will be that he made the wrong choice at the wrong time and | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
in the wrong way. That's why Labour, along with many on the Government | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
side, will be opposing this move on the increase in National Insurance | :15:15. | :15:21. | |
for the self-employed. This was a broken promise, and the Chancellor | :15:22. | :15:26. | |
will rightly be in for a rocky ride. The Chancellor has used his first | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
Budget to continue tax giveaways, Madam Deputy Speaker, for those at | :15:31. | :15:34. | |
the top, whilst hitting self-employed workers and low and | :15:35. | :15:39. | |
middle earners for about ?2 million to fill his own black hole. The | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
Association of independent professionals of the self-employed | :15:44. | :15:47. | |
described this tax hike as an additional burden upon individuals | :15:48. | :15:50. | |
who are already subjected to costly, excessive bureaucracy. Anyone | :15:51. | :15:59. | |
self-employed earning over ?16,250 per year will have to pay more tax. | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
A self-employed person earning ?20,000 will warn current proposals | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
pay almost ?100 more in NI from next year. And a self-employed person | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
earning 30 grand will pay almost 300 more in National Insurance from next | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
year. Up to 8000 small businesses who are self employed in my | :16:23. | :16:25. | |
constituency could be affected by this change. And for a self-employed | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
are now bringing up a family on around ?25,000, that could be around | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
?15 to ?20 per month. It could becoming from school trips or score | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
uniforms or putting food on the table. At the same time as inflation | :16:39. | :16:45. | |
is going up and wage growth is being revised down, this measure | :16:46. | :16:49. | |
implemented in this way will lead to yet another squeeze on household | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
incomes. The last thing we want to see, Madam Deputy Speaker, is | :16:55. | :16:57. | |
families borrowing more just to make ends meet. That just about managing | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
could well become the just about managing no longer. The | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
self-employed are the engine of the UK economy, and twice I have had | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
periods of self-employment myself, and I know the challenges that face. | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
You don't have the back-up and security of an employer to fund your | :17:16. | :17:19. | |
pension, to pay for a training course, cover you with another | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
member of staff if you sick or provide statutory holiday pay. It's | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
hard and it's stressful. Alongside those rewards indeed of being | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
independent and entrepreneurial. And because your income fluctuates, it | :17:33. | :17:39. | |
can be harder to get a mortgage or indeed eventful agreement. This | :17:40. | :17:41. | |
shouldn't be the chance for Government to show the self-employed | :17:42. | :17:43. | |
that they are on their side. Indeed, the biggest difference in tax take | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
between self-employment compare to employment lies in the 13.8% | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
employer National Insurance, not the NI, paid by individuals. If the | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
Government is serious about equalising tax treatment, it should | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
also be focused as to how it works in partnership with the | :18:01. | :18:02. | |
self-employed to balance and share risks to do the right thing. And | :18:03. | :18:11. | |
bring forward any proposals after proper dialogue and consultation. | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
Madam Deputy Speaker, I want to focus on a few other small points. | :18:17. | :18:23. | |
In my contribution today. The first is on productivity. Productivity | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
growth is set to be revised down again. And that is even after the UK | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
productivity gap widened last year to the worst levels since records | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
began. After seven years of Tory government, we still like over 30% | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
behind Germany and the US. As the Chancellor said at the time of the | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
Autumn Statement, the productivity gap is well-known. But it is | :18:47. | :18:52. | |
shocking nevertheless. And why productivity is being revised down | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
is not just about Brexit. It is a reflection of the Goverment's | :18:58. | :18:59. | |
strategy and investment records. And its achievements, and its lack of | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
achievement in this regard, rather than its recycled infrastructure | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
plans. At some point, the Government has to take responsibility for its | :19:10. | :19:12. | |
poor record on this. They now have no one else to blame. One example, | :19:13. | :19:18. | |
Madam Deputy Speaker, with our record on school buildings. When | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
this government came to power, they stopped the building schools for the | :19:23. | :19:26. | |
future programme, and two schools in my constituency were affected. Now | :19:27. | :19:29. | |
we see the outcome of the neglect of the Government in favour of a | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
blindly ideological pursuit of support for free schools and grammar | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
schools almost exclusively. Reports last month show the National Audit | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
Office has copulated that ?6.7 billion is needed to build, to bring | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
existing school buildings in England and Wales to a satisfactory | :19:47. | :19:50. | |
standard. Ministers are choosing instead to give billions of pounds | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
to fund new free schools, whilst existing schools are crumbling into | :19:55. | :20:00. | |
disrepair. Not my view, but the conclusion of the Whitehall spending | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
watchdog. The chair of the Public Accounts Committee called for the | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
money to be reassigned and diverted to existing buildings. And said that | :20:09. | :20:15. | |
the taxpayers' money, this taxpayers' money could otherwise be | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
used to fund much-needed improvements. Take a second | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
challenge, Madam Deputy Speaker. The UK is 54th out of 80 countries | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
surveyed for 4G coverage, with levels lower than Bulgaria, Albania | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
and Romania. This is the fifth time the government have announced its | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
highly limited roll-out of fibre broadband. And once the roll-out is | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
complete, only 7% of homes and businesses will have benefited. | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
Madam Deputy Speaker, Corporation Tax cuts brought in by this Budget | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
and previous Budgets, where tax cuts were dropped to 19% this year, 18% | :20:53. | :20:58. | |
and then 17% the year after, taking billion pounds out of public | :20:59. | :21:03. | |
finances in this Parliament. That is a direct cost to the taxpayer. The | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
irony is that there isn't a single business, large or small, that I | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
have talked to, and I talked to many, who has put Corporation Tax | :21:13. | :21:15. | |
levels are the top of their wish list. They have raised with the | :21:16. | :21:18. | |
infrastructure, affordable housing for employees to be able to live | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
nearby where they work, they have raised education and skills, they | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
have raised the issues of public transport and its affordability too. | :21:29. | :21:35. | |
But this decision alone, and the decision to go ahead with | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
Corporation Tax cuts at this level is a self. Black hole that the | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
Government now needs to fill. And they are plugging this gap with the | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
earnings of the self-employed and cutting the amount spent on | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
children's education. In recent weeks and months, teachers have told | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
me about growing parent poverty, about kids coming to school hungry | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
or without green school uniforms. Parents are unable sometimes to be | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
able to afford those school trips. Schools are having to cut teaching | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
posts and non-teaching welfare and support staff. Curriculum teaching | :22:06. | :22:16. | |
time has been reduced. The school day has been shortened. Combine that | :22:17. | :22:18. | |
with the pressure teachers are facing, as school pupil numbers | :22:19. | :22:20. | |
increase and they are facing with increasing class sizes. And with | :22:21. | :22:22. | |
increasing numbers of children facing mental health conditions who | :22:23. | :22:24. | |
are then unable to get the support that they need. How can the | :22:25. | :22:27. | |
Government be proud of this record? Which is the reality of what a | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
wonderful schools are facing, and the worst that they have known in a | :22:32. | :22:34. | |
generation. The Government should indeed delay or abandon their | :22:35. | :22:40. | |
Corporation Tax cuts and by supporting those schools working | :22:41. | :22:44. | |
hard to make sure that there the children of our country get the | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
education that they need. And indeed they should be looking at a minimum | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
delaying the apprenticeship levy applying to schools. It is also | :22:53. | :22:59. | |
worth a mention, Madam Deputy Speaker, of one of a lost | :23:00. | :23:03. | |
opportunity. In his 2015 Budget, the former Chancellor announced that he | :23:04. | :23:09. | |
would hike the tax take on dividend income by 7.5%. This change only | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
took effect in April 2016, many of my meaning people could bring their | :23:14. | :23:17. | |
dividends forward by a year to avoid it. Once other factors are taking | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
into account, the ABI estimates that preannouncing this policy cost the | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
treasury 800 Moeen pounds and handed shareholders that same amount. Each | :23:27. | :23:33. | |
of those individuals withdrew an average of ?30 million in dividends | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
and avoided ?1.1 million in tax. That is a pretty devastating | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
conclusion, Madam Deputy Speaker, and another example of how this | :23:42. | :23:44. | |
Government has continued to give to those who already have and take away | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
from those who need the most. In closing, Madam Deputy Speaker, we | :23:49. | :23:55. | |
need better than this. We need a strategy that addresses the needs | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
and the challenges that businesses and families in our constituencies | :24:00. | :24:05. | |
are facing. A proper plan for funding public services, an economic | :24:06. | :24:08. | |
plan that suggests a clear sense of direction, and honest assessment of | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
the risks of Brexit and a sensible response to those risks. What was | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
missing here was a proper vision of our future and a pathway for how we | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
get there. It was an unfair Budget, it made the wrong choices, and it is | :24:22. | :24:24. | |
set to leave as poorer and less prosperous as a nation. Thank you. | :24:25. | :24:30. | |
After all of the spin around this Budget, which hasn't exactly gone to | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
plan, let's look at the facts. We have seen the worst decades for pay | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
growth in two centuries of data according to the Resolution | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
Foundation. We see GDP growth being overplayed and inflation being on | :24:44. | :24:46. | |
the plate. GDP growth is actually it acted to flatten, as well as | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
inflation, which has sped up in the last few weeks according to much of | :24:51. | :24:53. | |
the data out there. It squeezes living standards and consumer | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
spending, which we have heard, has been largely driven by a credit card | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
room dries up, again creating a false impression of what is | :25:02. | :25:06. | |
happening. We have seen borrowing continuing to rise, and expected to | :25:07. | :25:09. | |
rise further. The bureau has made clear that in their words the | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
Government do not appear to be on a track to return public finances to | :25:16. | :25:17. | |
balance at the earliest possible date in the next Parliament as they | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
promise. On productivity, the Chancellor did a very good job, I | :25:22. | :25:24. | |
have to say, about climbing just what a bad job is two recessive | :25:25. | :25:33. | |
Conservative governors have done. We are 35% behind Germany, and behind | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
the G7 average. What another have they been doing for the last seven | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
years that we are in that position? -- what on earth? We see small | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
businesses hit not only by the National Insurance contributions | :25:48. | :25:49. | |
issue, which I will come to in a moment, but also the reduction in | :25:50. | :25:52. | |
the dividend allowance that we have spoken about, and of course the | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
additional red tape unburdened through things like the quarterly | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
reporting. The fact is, we can talk about all of those statistics and | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
real things that are going on in the economy. But the real impact I am | :26:05. | :26:09. | |
interested in on those of my constituents in Cardiff and Penarth | :26:10. | :26:12. | |
and the Vale of Glamorgan. I'm proud that we have a Welsh Labour | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
government that is investing in our schools and hospitals and we seeing | :26:17. | :26:19. | |
new schools and hospitals being built, more spent together an NHS | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
and social care together than the average in England, and indeed we | :26:24. | :26:27. | |
have councils in Cardiff and the Vale of Glamorgan that are doing | :26:28. | :26:30. | |
their best to invest in our local services and protect people who are | :26:31. | :26:38. | |
suffering as a result of the policies of the Tory government in | :26:39. | :26:40. | |
Westminster. But the fact remains, Madam Deputy Speaker, that the | :26:41. | :26:42. | |
Joseph Riley foundation says that ordinary working families by 2020 | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
will be worse off since 2015, a couple both working full-time on the | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
National Living Wage, the so-called National Living Wage, with two | :26:52. | :26:55. | |
children will see their incomes down by ?1051. A lone parent working | :26:56. | :26:59. | |
full-time on the assure living wage with two it will be down three 3363. | :27:00. | :27:07. | |
It is those constituents who tell me about the challenges and hardships | :27:08. | :27:10. | |
they are facing, not the spin that we get from this government. I want | :27:11. | :27:15. | |
to turn to the issue of self-employment and the issues | :27:16. | :27:17. | |
around the National Insurance contributions rise, which I think | :27:18. | :27:20. | |
has been a huge mistake in the way the Government have approached this | :27:21. | :27:24. | |
policy. It is clear, I will give way in a second, but it is clear there | :27:25. | :27:29. | |
are huge additional costs and risks for those working in the | :27:30. | :27:31. | |
self-employed sector, I speak to many self-employed people every week | :27:32. | :27:43. | |
in my surgeries, I have spoken to a lot of taxi drivers recently, which | :27:44. | :27:45. | |
I will come onto. The fact surrounded, the lack of benefits | :27:46. | :27:47. | |
they have, the increase premiums on insurance, difficulty getting a | :27:48. | :27:49. | |
mortgage, fixed costs they face of huge. There is some abuse on the | :27:50. | :27:52. | |
margins of self-employment is, we must address the issue of bogus of | :27:53. | :27:56. | |
employment. Hitting a whole swathe of self-employed people as a crude | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
measure and it can have hugely differential and damaging impacts on | :28:00. | :28:00. | |
some sectors and groups. My honourable friend refers to the | :28:01. | :28:09. | |
fact that it has been a mistake. It also appears to be the case that the | :28:10. | :28:22. | |
member Aberconwy on radio Wales said that I will apologise to every | :28:23. | :28:25. | |
reader who read that manifesto in 2011. Is my honourable friend aware | :28:26. | :28:31. | |
of that? I was not aware of those comments, but as someone who listens | :28:32. | :28:38. | |
to that station regularly, I will be interested and will be listening | :28:39. | :28:42. | |
very carefully to what he has said. I hope his ministerial colleagues | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
listen, because it is clear there was much disquiet on the Government | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
benches, and that is perhaps why there are so few of them today and | :28:50. | :28:53. | |
why those who have spoken have been critical of these decisions. The | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
fact is, there are 4.8 million people self-employed, nearly 5000 in | :29:00. | :29:02. | |
Cardiff South and Penarth. It is all very well to say this measure does | :29:03. | :29:10. | |
not affect the very poorest, the fact is that no amount of | :29:11. | :29:16. | |
distributional analysis can reflect the reality and impact to those in | :29:17. | :29:25. | |
the middle that the Government was so keen to say there were trying to | :29:26. | :29:29. | |
support. The fact is, they have been shafted. This Government is not | :29:30. | :29:36. | |
helping but doing the absolute opposites. The Federation of Small | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
Businesses said this is a tax grab on people who are just about | :29:42. | :29:44. | |
managing. I work closely with the musicians union and those working in | :29:45. | :29:49. | |
the creative industries, who have said the Conservative Government had | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
done nothing but cut funding for the arts and music, and now they are | :29:54. | :29:59. | |
penalising musicians further by increasing their tax contributions. | :30:00. | :30:02. | |
Federation of small business at one end, those representing the creative | :30:03. | :30:05. | |
industries at the other, decrying this measure. I want to speak | :30:06. | :30:10. | |
briefly about the reality of life of one group of workers, self-employed | :30:11. | :30:13. | |
at the moment, though many would argue that they are employed, and | :30:14. | :30:18. | |
this is a subject of legal cases going on, and that is taxi drivers. | :30:19. | :30:23. | |
I am proud to have been working with the GMB yet locally to listen to the | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
concerns of taxi drivers in Cardiff, the Vale of Glamorgan and across | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
South Wales. The reality is, they are hard-working people, they are | :30:34. | :30:36. | |
striving, trying to make a difference for their families, but | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
they are struggling with the costs they face from the companies they | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
are engaged with, the finds and administration fees, the cost of | :30:45. | :30:51. | |
fuel, of replacing windows when they don't fit with the regulations which | :30:52. | :30:55. | |
vary so much across the country, often trapped in low paid account | :30:56. | :30:59. | |
work which does not reflect the time and effort they put in for the wages | :31:00. | :31:04. | |
they receive, the differential insurance costs they face. For | :31:05. | :31:11. | |
example, when cards from other local authorities are working in Cardiff, | :31:12. | :31:26. | |
they undercut the local drivers. The result so the fact that licenses | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
granted without any cap, which ignores demand. People are striving | :31:31. | :31:36. | |
the margins, and they can barely afford that additional ?40 that this | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
measure will bring in, and they are the ones who will be hardest hit, | :31:41. | :31:44. | |
and they are already hard-hit by many other measures. I accept that | :31:45. | :31:49. | |
this is just one measure hitting those in self-employment, and | :31:50. | :31:55. | |
obviously, companies are using the self-employed in these ways. I have | :31:56. | :31:58. | |
been speaking to companies in Cardiff and I am concerned that some | :31:59. | :32:05. | |
taxi companies are not willing to meet with drivers to discuss | :32:06. | :32:09. | |
concerns, nor to meet with the GMB, which is a concern. Fundamentally, | :32:10. | :32:14. | |
what is the Government doing to help people like this who just want a | :32:15. | :32:17. | |
level playing field and to have enough money to support their | :32:18. | :32:21. | |
families? I mention the creative industries - we have loads of | :32:22. | :32:28. | |
start-up creative companies, design, music, technology, who will all be | :32:29. | :32:32. | |
hit badly by these changes. What is the Government doing to support | :32:33. | :32:37. | |
them? And finally, Brexit - where on earth was it? The biggest economic | :32:38. | :32:43. | |
challenge facing this country in generations, not mentioned, no | :32:44. | :32:46. | |
answers on the question of the additional debt that the OBR has | :32:47. | :32:50. | |
predicted will be added to the national debt, no answers on whether | :32:51. | :32:55. | |
Wales will be worse off as a result of the changes to regional finance | :32:56. | :32:58. | |
and structural funds, no answers to the exchange rate volatility, no | :32:59. | :33:04. | |
answers on the single market, the impact of tariffs if we end up in | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
the deal or no Deal situation that the Prime Minister seems to be | :33:09. | :33:11. | |
leading us towards. Where was that? Utterly responsible. And where was | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
climate change, support the steel industry, support for veterans, | :33:17. | :33:19. | |
younger veterans who are struggling with house and -- housing costs? | :33:20. | :33:28. | |
Where was the action to write the injustices for women pensioners? We | :33:29. | :33:31. | |
heard from thousands of them, hundreds from Wales, speaking out. | :33:32. | :33:40. | |
Where was the money for the police cuts? The police are suffering huge | :33:41. | :33:45. | |
pressures, as the former chair of the home affairs committee set up. | :33:46. | :33:55. | |
This is one of the thinnest Budget books we have seen in this house. | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
The reason is, never as a whole lot missing. The Chancellor will have to | :34:01. | :34:07. | |
do a lot of rethinking. -- there is a whole lot missing. It is a | :34:08. | :34:11. | |
pleasure to follow the honourable gentleman. Clearly, the Labour Party | :34:12. | :34:17. | |
have a rich vein of irony. They are masquerading as the friends of the | :34:18. | :34:20. | |
entrepreneur and the self-employed. Perhaps the white van man task force | :34:21. | :34:25. | |
will be headed up by the Honourable lady for Islington South and | :34:26. | :34:28. | |
Finsbury, who has a great affinity with white van man. They must be | :34:29. | :34:35. | |
living on a different planet to the rest of us, because what this Budget | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
was was a consolidation of seven years of work to rescue this | :34:41. | :34:43. | |
country's fiscal credibility from the disastrous mess of the Labour | :34:44. | :34:49. | |
Party and record peacetime debt that we had in 2010. I have to say, in 12 | :34:50. | :34:55. | |
years in the House, I have rarely seen a poorer budget response than | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
from the Leader of the Opposition. No wonder his own MPs had their | :35:00. | :35:05. | |
heads in their hands. I would like to conclude my remarks. If we talk | :35:06. | :35:10. | |
about honesty and being up front, even today, the Shadow Chancellor is | :35:11. | :35:17. | |
quoted as saying within 100 days of a Labour Government, we will see the | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
end of nuclear power. It is a different argument from two weeks | :35:21. | :35:26. | |
ago in Copeland, when his leader was saying that nuclear power was safe | :35:27. | :35:31. | |
under Labour. What we have seen in the Budget is a consolidation too of | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
this Government's industrial strategy, which is a recognition | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
that many people in the country, particularly outside London, felt | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
that the benefits of globalisation were not flowing to them and their | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
communities and infrastructure. And it is right to address that, and | :35:49. | :35:54. | |
this Budget is about that. Because they felt that some of the forces of | :35:55. | :35:59. | |
globalisation had passed them by. That is wider context of Brexit, but | :36:00. | :36:03. | |
because of my departmental responsibilities, I won't go further | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
on that. In the last seven years we have seen a jobs miracle. In my | :36:08. | :36:12. | |
constituency, we have seen record growth in private sector jobs. We | :36:13. | :36:18. | |
have seen a drop in needs and youth unemployment. 1.9% unemployment in | :36:19. | :36:25. | |
the last figures, the lowest in eight years. We have seen an | :36:26. | :36:29. | |
increase in living standards, the highest in 14 years, and we have | :36:30. | :36:32. | |
seen an increase over the last quarter or so in real wages. We have | :36:33. | :36:41. | |
was 10.1% of GDP under the Labour was 10.1% of GDP under the Labour | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
Government, and it is now 4%. The Government has tackled some of those | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
key issues which were imported around the skills agenda. We are | :36:50. | :36:57. | |
seeing a university technical College which is attracting new | :36:58. | :37:01. | |
students. We are seeing more money for retraining the workforce - ?40 | :37:02. | :37:09. | |
million. And we are seeing important issues such as infrastructure | :37:10. | :37:16. | |
spending on roads and broadband is being considered by the Chancellor. | :37:17. | :37:21. | |
And welfare too. It is certainly the case that welfare is an issue that | :37:22. | :37:25. | |
transcends party politics, but I am proud that this Government has | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
worked on the basis that the number-1 predominant issue of | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
getting people out of poverty and the miserable cycle of welfare | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
dependency is to get them into work. Therefore, to take people from | :37:39. | :37:45. | |
workless households and give them work is massively important to | :37:46. | :37:48. | |
changing their lives. And it doesn't help the Labour Party propagating | :37:49. | :37:54. | |
this myth about zero-hours contracts, which in any case, for | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
the people who have them, it is a decision that they themselves make, | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
which affects their lives and choices. 97.1% of people are not on | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
zero-hours contracts, though you wouldn't know that if you listened | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
to the Labour Party. I agree too that it is vital that social care | :38:14. | :38:19. | |
funding is vital. It builds on the precept we have already put in place | :38:20. | :38:24. | |
and builds on the better care fund that the Labour Party did nothing | :38:25. | :38:31. | |
about in 13 years of benign economic circumstances. Nothing about social | :38:32. | :38:40. | |
care at all. They sold the gold, they ruined our Private pension | :38:41. | :38:45. | |
schemes, and they racked up massive, record levels of debt. We are | :38:46. | :38:51. | |
spending serious money, ?10 billion by the end of this Parliament, on | :38:52. | :38:59. | |
schools improvement. It is the labile levelling down approach, | :39:00. | :39:01. | |
attacking people who are aspirational and ambitious for their | :39:02. | :39:06. | |
children. Grammar schools are awful. That is what the rich do, what the | :39:07. | :39:12. | |
middle-class do. Actually, it's about equality, about improvement of | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
people's lives, about reducing those differences, and it is taking people | :39:17. | :39:20. | |
from modest backgrounds and giving them a real stake in their future. | :39:21. | :39:24. | |
And the Labour Party have always been against this, against | :39:25. | :39:28. | |
share-ownership, against right to buy, against grammar schools. It is | :39:29. | :39:31. | |
all about levelling down and sharing the level of misery amongst | :39:32. | :39:38. | |
everyone, which is what socialism is all about. We are dedicated to | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
improving the living standards of all-out people. As Disraeli said, | :39:43. | :39:48. | |
the aim of the Conservative Party is the elevation of the condition of | :39:49. | :39:53. | |
the working class, and that is our watchword. It is about social | :39:54. | :39:58. | |
progress, and that is why people will see a ?500 pay rise this year | :39:59. | :40:02. | |
with a national living wage. 1 million people will get a pay rise | :40:03. | :40:08. | |
as it goes to ?7.50. The personal allowance has risen for seven years | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
in a row. We have frozen fuel duty for working people needing their | :40:13. | :40:17. | |
cars to go to work. Free childcare. And we have tackled productivity | :40:18. | :40:22. | |
issues. The honourable gentleman says we haven't, but we have put | :40:23. | :40:26. | |
money into broadband, to traffic congestion at pinch points. Of | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
course, there will be difficult choices that we have to make. On the | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
specific issue of national insurance, it is much more about the | :40:37. | :40:39. | |
regularisation on simplification of the tax system -- and simplification | :40:40. | :40:47. | |
of the taxes, but it is also about fairness. The gentleman may shake | :40:48. | :40:50. | |
head, but the resolution foundation has not always supported the | :40:51. | :40:56. | |
Government measures, but it does today. The in situ official studies | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
has done the same thing. -- the Institute for Fiscal Studies. The | :41:02. | :41:06. | |
Labour Party is against fiscal fairness, against making the | :41:07. | :41:10. | |
necessary changes to fun things like social care. The question I have, | :41:11. | :41:20. | |
and I haven't got an answer from the front bench, or Continuity Blair on | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
the backbenches, and I would like to see the dynamic duo from Ilford, but | :41:25. | :41:35. | |
we don't have a coherent, comprehensive, plausible Government | :41:36. | :41:39. | |
policy on tax and spending. All it is is more tax, more borrowing, more | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
spending, more debt, a millstone for our children. That's the Labour | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
Party for you. So, if I can say, Madam Deputy Speaker, that there are | :41:51. | :41:56. | |
certain things I would like to have seen in this budget which I haven't | :41:57. | :42:05. | |
seen - more taxes on tobacco, I support the sugar tax. I am not a | :42:06. | :42:09. | |
libertarian but a social conservative and I think we should | :42:10. | :42:13. | |
reflect the fact that we need to support the health impact of sugar | :42:14. | :42:22. | |
in diet. I would like more help in the Autumn Statement, as has been | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
said by my honourable friend for Harrow East, fire housing, to build | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
affordable housing to get younger people on the housing ladder. We | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
need to do more specifically about tax advantages for, for instance, | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
Brownfield remediation. Help for extra care facilities for older | :42:40. | :42:48. | |
people. Residential estate trust, and we need more house-builder to | :42:49. | :42:50. | |
get back in a market and build homes. | :42:51. | :42:59. | |
It would be remiss of me not to say that the king's school and Arthur | :43:00. | :43:07. | |
Miller college are concerned about this. I will speak quietly and | :43:08. | :43:15. | |
privately to the Chancellor. As a finishing conclusion, Madam Deputy | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
Speaker, my party is proud of our achieve. Over the last seveners in | :43:20. | :43:24. | |
turning around this country and this economy from the disastrous heritage | :43:25. | :43:28. | |
of the Labour Party and the legacy they left. My party believes in | :43:29. | :43:34. | |
social progress, prudent Government, fiscal responsibility and it falls | :43:35. | :43:37. | |
to a Conservative Party, as ever throughout history, to build a | :43:38. | :43:40. | |
country that works for everyone. Thank you. We've had a wide range of | :43:41. | :43:51. | |
speeches, hasn't we this afternoon? We heard from the honourable | :43:52. | :43:58. | |
remembers from Richmond Yorkshire, from Esher and Walton, Harrow East | :43:59. | :44:01. | |
and Peterborough. The member for North Norfolk who is no longer here | :44:02. | :44:08. | |
and some excellent speeches from Wallasey; Croydon North, Bristol | :44:09. | :44:16. | |
ease, my Right Honourable friend from Bristol East, Cardiff West. I | :44:17. | :44:19. | |
mainly want to talk about social care, but I do wish to mention the | :44:20. | :44:27. | |
absence of any Budget help for 1950s women struggling without their state | :44:28. | :44:36. | |
pensions due to the 1995 and I am sad that the Chancellor could not | :44:37. | :44:41. | |
find ?10 million for the children's funeral fund. Campaigned for so ably | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
by my Right Honourable friend for Swansea East. My local authority has | :44:47. | :44:50. | |
recently announced that despite cuts from central Government it will | :44:51. | :44:54. | |
waive fees for children's burials. I don't think all the weight of that | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
should be put on to councils. I hope that this Budget would final will I | :44:59. | :45:01. | |
see the funding commitment needed from Government to start to put the | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
social care sector on a stable footing. The Chancellor said that | :45:06. | :45:09. | |
everyone should be able to enjoy security and dignity in old age. | :45:10. | :45:14. | |
Despite his rhetoric it is clear his Budget did not match up to that aim. | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
As we have heard the King's Fund has put the gap at ?2 billion. Yesterday | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
the Chancellor announced additional funding of ?2 billion over three | :45:24. | :45:27. | |
years, of which only ?1 billion would be available this year. This | :45:28. | :45:32. | |
is half of what is needed to deal with the immediate crisis. This will | :45:33. | :45:36. | |
keep the wolf from the door, but no more. We need to bear in mind and | :45:37. | :45:39. | |
there's been a lot of discussion about the future and what will | :45:40. | :45:45. | |
happen with this extra funding that post Budget figures for adult social | :45:46. | :45:51. | |
care show 2.1% cut between. So this, in this Parliament it is still being | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
cut. Now, we on this side of the House, along with council leaders, | :45:56. | :45:59. | |
social care providers and health leaders have warned this Government | :46:00. | :46:04. | |
for many months about the state of the social care sector. The King's | :46:05. | :46:10. | |
Fund said adult social care is radically becoming little more than | :46:11. | :46:17. | |
a thread bear safety net and last week Mighty off loaded its two home | :46:18. | :46:23. | |
care businesses for ?2. A clear deep tracing of the fragility of the | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
current care market. That had providing support to 10,000 people | :46:28. | :46:33. | |
and employed 6,000 staff, reduced to only being worth ?2. It has taken | :46:34. | :46:37. | |
until now for the Government to heed the many warnings and they were | :46:38. | :46:40. | |
wrong to wait so long to act. Just as they were wrong to cut local | :46:41. | :46:45. | |
Government Budgets by 40% since 2010. Which has led to cuts of ?2.5 | :46:46. | :46:50. | |
billion from adult social care Budgets by the end of this financial | :46:51. | :46:56. | |
year. I thank my honourable friend for giving way. Does she recognise | :46:57. | :47:00. | |
that some of the cuts and benefits, particularly to Housing Benefit will | :47:01. | :47:04. | |
have a huge effect on extra care, which is keeping large numbers of | :47:05. | :47:10. | |
people very happy and well looked after and protected in those | :47:11. | :47:15. | |
arrangements, who can't be, who cannot pay for them if Housing | :47:16. | :47:20. | |
Benefit goes. And keeping them, moving them into nursing care will | :47:21. | :47:24. | |
cost far more a week. That is another ticking time bomb. This | :47:25. | :47:30. | |
whole thing about extra care housing. The Chancellor was wrong, | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
in my view, not to make any extra funding available for funding | :47:36. | :47:38. | |
available in the Autumn Statement. Ministers put the burden of social | :47:39. | :47:42. | |
funding care on to councils and coup till taxpayers. The finance | :47:43. | :47:48. | |
settlement compounded the mess by creating the grant by recycling | :47:49. | :47:55. | |
monny the new home's bonus. This made one-third of councils worse of, | :47:56. | :47:59. | |
including my council which loses an extra ?2 million from budgets this | :48:00. | :48:05. | |
year. One council who did not lose out was Surrey County Council which | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
will gain pntsds 9 million extra. -- ?9 million extra. The settlement was | :48:11. | :48:16. | |
made when Surrey was in the middle of a long drawn out lobby of | :48:17. | :48:20. | |
ministers to get more funding for that council for social care. Last | :48:21. | :48:27. | |
night, Surrey County Council released texts and documents about | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
that that was enjoyed with ministers and advisers. My local authority | :48:33. | :48:35. | |
asked for a meeting the community secretary to discuss our difficult | :48:36. | :48:38. | |
financial situation and the loss of funding for social care. | :48:39. | :48:43. | |
We were given a 30-minute meeting with one of the parliamentary | :48:44. | :48:50. | |
undersecretaries. However the leader of Surrey County Council was having | :48:51. | :48:53. | |
meetings with the Secretary of State on three occasions. There were a | :48:54. | :48:59. | |
number of further meetings to discuss the situation, involving the | :49:00. | :49:03. | |
Chancellor, the Health Secretary and other Surrey MPs. There was also a | :49:04. | :49:07. | |
substantial stream of letters, e-mails and texts. Some of these may | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
make surprising reading. There were some frustration expressed by the | :49:13. | :49:18. | |
Secretary of State with one Surrey MP saying "I was led to understand | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
before Christmas that he would try very hard to help Surrey after the | :49:23. | :49:28. | |
worst of its Government dictated financial dilemma. If they were | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
prudent enough not to have ?40 million hidden under the | :49:33. | :49:36. | |
departmental sofa for this mrgesy or problem - - emergency or problem. If | :49:37. | :49:41. | |
all this money is allocated, then the Secretary of State still has the | :49:42. | :49:45. | |
option offed a justing all other council -- option of adjusting all | :49:46. | :49:48. | |
other council settlements, to accommodate the ?31 million needed | :49:49. | :49:54. | |
for Surrey. I think he should be encouraged to do this." In Jan, | :49:55. | :49:58. | |
getting help from Government this time. We need to kick up such a fuss | :49:59. | :50:03. | |
that ministers and civil sister vaments do remember, at the very | :50:04. | :50:08. | |
least, they will -- servants do remember, at the very least... That | :50:09. | :50:13. | |
refers to the new funding formula. All this about a council which the | :50:14. | :50:17. | |
Chancellor told them in a letter in December, Surrey's core spending | :50:18. | :50:23. | |
power in 2016/17 decreased by 1%, compared to 2% for Shire counties. | :50:24. | :50:29. | |
Over the lifetime of this Parliament Surrey's core spending power is | :50:30. | :50:34. | |
expected to increase by 1.5%, compared to a flat cash settlement | :50:35. | :50:38. | |
for local Government as a whole. Now it seems that ministers were not | :50:39. | :50:45. | |
ready to listen to most authorities and their regulator about the | :50:46. | :50:48. | |
fragile state of social care funding. It is clear from all of the | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
correspondents and I do recommend that honourable members read that. | :50:54. | :50:58. | |
It is very interesting. That relying on council tax and business rates to | :50:59. | :51:01. | |
fund social care will not give us the fair and stable system we need. | :51:02. | :51:08. | |
As I said earlier, there will be cuts of 2.1% social care up to | :51:09. | :51:13. | |
2019/20. What we have in this Budget is a sticking plaster or a stop gap | :51:14. | :51:17. | |
announcement. And that will not give older and | :51:18. | :51:21. | |
vulnerable people the security and dignity in old age that the | :51:22. | :51:25. | |
Chancellor claimed and it will not enable us to deal with the | :51:26. | :51:33. | |
continuing demograhic challenges. Those over 75 is projected to | :51:34. | :51:40. | |
double. The Government has created fear and uncertainty by failing to | :51:41. | :51:43. | |
address the health and care challenges raised by those | :51:44. | :51:46. | |
challenges. The Chancellor said that the Government is intending to | :51:47. | :51:49. | |
produce a green paper in the autumn on long-term funding options and | :51:50. | :51:52. | |
there's been some discussion about that in this debate. Given what we | :51:53. | :51:57. | |
have had, the Barker review and the Dilnot Commission, there are fears | :51:58. | :52:00. | |
that the Government could be kicking this issue once again into the long | :52:01. | :52:05. | |
grass and I hope not. Because cuts to social care budgets hit people | :52:06. | :52:10. | |
who need care. But they also hit the 6.5 million unpaid family carers. | :52:11. | :52:15. | |
And Carers UK tell us an estimated 1.6 million people currently provide | :52:16. | :52:19. | |
50 hours or more of care per week. That is an increase of one-third | :52:20. | :52:24. | |
since 2001. Two million people have given up work at some point to care | :52:25. | :52:29. | |
for loved ones and three million carers have had to reduce their | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
working hours, not good for their finances and many fall into poverty | :52:35. | :52:38. | |
as time goes on. As people live longer with disabilities and | :52:39. | :52:41. | |
long-term health conditions, more of us will find ourselves having to | :52:42. | :52:46. | |
take on a caring role. Sadly, this Budget offered nothing to carers as | :52:47. | :52:50. | |
it offered nothing to 1950s women and offered nothing to families who | :52:51. | :52:55. | |
were bereaved after losing children. Fog for carers. No extra -- nothing | :52:56. | :53:01. | |
for carers, no extra support. I would say to the minister ?120 | :53:02. | :53:08. | |
million wow deliver a three-hour respite break for 40,000 carers | :53:09. | :53:11. | |
providing full-time care. We know the Government has chosen to | :53:12. | :53:17. | |
prioritise cuts to inheritance tax and ignore the increased burden on | :53:18. | :53:22. | |
unpaid family carers. It has also failed to recognise the social care | :53:23. | :53:25. | |
crisis is not just about older people. The Chancellor talked about | :53:26. | :53:29. | |
the impact that the ?2 billion over three years will have on delayed | :53:30. | :53:32. | |
discharges. But as councils have reminded us this week, other groups | :53:33. | :53:37. | |
of people need social care, including people with learning | :53:38. | :53:42. | |
disabilities. Around one-third of councils spending care spending, | :53:43. | :53:46. | |
some ?5 billion goes on supporting adults with learning disabilities. | :53:47. | :53:50. | |
That is a fact that Surrey MPs must understand after all the | :53:51. | :53:53. | |
correspondence from their leader, who spent a lot of time trying to | :53:54. | :53:57. | |
make clear what within issue that was for councils. Now we had an | :53:58. | :54:02. | |
excellent debate in Westminster Hall earlier on social care in Liverpool. | :54:03. | :54:06. | |
We heard that Liverpool had lost almost 60% of its grant from 2010. | :54:07. | :54:11. | |
And that will reach cuts of 68% by 2020. And cuts to social care there | :54:12. | :54:17. | |
have meant funding for care packages had to be cut from 14,000 to 9,000 | :54:18. | :54:22. | |
people. A loss of 5,000 people not getting care packages any more. So | :54:23. | :54:27. | |
Surrey, which has had so much attention did not get cutle over | :54:28. | :54:32. | |
that level. Their cuts were 28%. Social care spending there has | :54:33. | :54:38. | |
increased from ?273 million to ?366 million. I want to make an | :54:39. | :54:43. | |
observation about the new allocations for the ?2 billion the | :54:44. | :54:46. | |
Government has announced. I observe and that is all I can do because the | :54:47. | :54:50. | |
figures have only just arrived that the allocation of ?1 billion across | :54:51. | :54:55. | |
year one, two-thirds of a billion for year two and one third of a | :54:56. | :55:00. | |
billion for year three N this allocation, Surrey's allocation goes | :55:01. | :55:03. | |
up in year two. One of only six councils out of the whole list that | :55:04. | :55:07. | |
gets a bigger allocation out of a small amount of money. I don't know | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
and it is impossible to see the formula. But that is very worrying. | :55:13. | :55:18. | |
It is disturbing, Madam Deputy Speaker, that this important matter | :55:19. | :55:21. | |
of funding social care has been tarnished by the offering of sweet | :55:22. | :55:28. | |
heart deals and making jentmen's agreements - open gentlemen's | :55:29. | :55:31. | |
agreements. All that was to escape the political heat for some | :55:32. | :55:34. | |
honourable and Right Honourable members facing the reality of what | :55:35. | :55:38. | |
cuts to council funding have done to social care in their local authority | :55:39. | :55:41. | |
area. That is what this whole matter is about. - threats of what will | :55:42. | :55:47. | |
happen to constituencies and areas if the cuts go on. Now, social care | :55:48. | :55:53. | |
should not ever be consigned to becoming a thread bare safety net. | :55:54. | :55:56. | |
We should not have a Community Secretary who can hold more than | :55:57. | :56:02. | |
seven meetings with Surrey County Council or Surrey MPs to discuss | :56:03. | :56:07. | |
their funding but will not meet a cross party delegation from Salford | :56:08. | :56:13. | |
and had no time in his diary to meet the leader of Hull County Council. I | :56:14. | :56:18. | |
hope they will listen to councils oh their than Surrey because their | :56:19. | :56:23. | |
leader empathised in letters we have seen that they have the largest | :56:24. | :56:25. | |
Conservative group in the Conservative. He should listen to | :56:26. | :56:30. | |
leaders from Hull and from Croydon, from Salford, from Manchester and | :56:31. | :56:33. | |
Liverpool, from Durham and Newcastle. He needs to understand | :56:34. | :56:38. | |
from them what is needed across this country to save social care from | :56:39. | :56:40. | |
crisis. Thank you very much, Madam Deputy | :56:41. | :56:52. | |
Speaker, and we certainly have covered a lot of ground today in | :56:53. | :56:59. | |
this debate. Indeed, we have strayed internationally, and we have covered | :57:00. | :57:02. | |
an awful lot of domestic policy as well. I will turn to some of the key | :57:03. | :57:07. | |
themes. Before I do, I want to stress the central point made | :57:08. | :57:15. | |
earlier by the Secretary of State for Communities and Local | :57:16. | :57:17. | |
Government, which is that our ability to provide public services | :57:18. | :57:22. | |
is entirely depended on our ability to pay for them. The member for | :57:23. | :57:26. | |
Leicester East said in his speech that it is important before we talk | :57:27. | :57:29. | |
about spending that we talk about how we raise the money. Actually, | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
that is the last thing we have heard from the other side of the chamber | :57:34. | :57:39. | |
today. That is absolutely key to this sort of debate. We don't live | :57:40. | :57:44. | |
within our means, deal with the deficit and get their polling, we | :57:45. | :57:47. | |
won't be able to fund the public services we all care about on both | :57:48. | :57:58. | |
sides of the... We have seen had debt has been left for other people | :57:59. | :58:01. | |
to come along and deal with. That is why at the heart of our Budget and | :58:02. | :58:06. | |
our economic policy is our continued resolve to restore the public | :58:07. | :58:10. | |
finances to health, to receipt -- to increase have economic resilience. | :58:11. | :58:15. | |
At the heart of those aims is the work to bring down the deficit, and | :58:16. | :58:20. | |
we have made great strides, and in doing so, we have been able to bring | :58:21. | :58:24. | |
further interline what we spend and what we raise. And that is the way | :58:25. | :58:30. | |
we can afford public services. We have already cut the deficit by | :58:31. | :58:34. | |
almost two thirds, but the work is not done. We are also on course to | :58:35. | :58:40. | |
get debt falling as a share of GDP in 2018-19, but we are the first to | :58:41. | :58:44. | |
acknowledge that there is no quick fix, and contrary to previous | :58:45. | :58:49. | |
assertions from the other side of the House, no magic money tree. That | :58:50. | :58:53. | |
is why we're sticking to the spending plans we have set out, why | :58:54. | :59:00. | |
we are taking a look at how we can become ever smarter in how we spend | :59:01. | :59:04. | |
taxpayer money, and we will have an efficiency review which aims to get | :59:05. | :59:08. | |
more value for money and save ?3.5 billion. As was said earlier, we are | :59:09. | :59:13. | |
looking for would do the insight and expertise that Sir Michael Barber | :59:14. | :59:20. | |
can bring to this process. -- we are looking forward to the insight. If | :59:21. | :59:25. | |
we look at the pressures in advanced economies around the world, there | :59:26. | :59:29. | |
are many pressures on our services. I think if we don't grapple with | :59:30. | :59:34. | |
this issue of how we pay for things, we just can't tackle them. We have | :59:35. | :59:38. | |
heard quite a lot of course from the member who speaks for the opposition | :59:39. | :59:45. | |
on this. We heard a great deal about social care, and of course, we have | :59:46. | :59:49. | |
made a significant announcement at this Budget about a ?2 billion | :59:50. | :00:00. | |
injection of extra cash. Members on opposition benches from a sedentary | :00:01. | :00:08. | |
position that it is not enough. I asked where they would pay for it, | :00:09. | :00:14. | |
and there is nothing but a few gimmicky ideas. I will address one | :00:15. | :00:20. | |
of them head on. The answer is, as we know, the magic money tree. We | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
have made this money available, and there have been further details | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
today about how that will be allocated. That is real Manny, -- | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
that is real money, made immediately available, and it starts in a few | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
weeks. I think it is important that we do that. But we acknowledge that | :00:39. | :00:43. | |
there is a longer term challenge. As I say, the pressures that all | :00:44. | :00:50. | |
advanced economies face as populations get older, and the right | :00:51. | :00:57. | |
Honourable gentleman for Leicester East, as well as offering kind words | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
about myself in my previous role, he rightly drew our attention to work | :01:03. | :01:07. | |
around prevention. I would be drawn too much into talking about that, | :01:08. | :01:18. | |
but I would remind him, obviously, of National diabetes prevention, the | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
fund and the work going on there. There is a public health budget of | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
?60 billion a year that we give to local Government. I think all | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
members have acknowledged the work on the sugar levy and other things | :01:30. | :01:35. | |
that are going on, and we see the sugar tide is turning. On page 35 of | :01:36. | :01:43. | |
the Budget book, our consultation on the damage that white cider can do. | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
We are consulting there around the ABV duty rates there, because... Can | :01:49. | :01:57. | |
I finish this point, we have heard from many charities, especially | :01:58. | :02:04. | |
those working with the homeless, that the effect that white cider has | :02:05. | :02:06. | |
on the health of homeless people and young drinkers, and the increased | :02:07. | :02:16. | |
frequency of visits to A We have 1.2 million older people living with | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
care needs that are not met every day. There is no prevention in a | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
situation where an older frail person who needs care doesn't get | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
that care, and this money goes nowhere to helping that. Nowhere. | :02:30. | :02:36. | |
Well, I disagree on prevention. There is a lot you can do in | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
prevention with older people. With this new money, you can have care | :02:42. | :02:49. | |
packages. Delivering care at home is one of the most valuable way to keep | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
people out of A We are not in anyway downplaying the challenges of | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
rising to dealing with those pressures. We're not burying our | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
heads in the sand. It is not just a case of common sense part of | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
responsible Government that we face up to the question of how we sit in | :03:06. | :03:11. | |
the Mexico as social care system for the long-term. -- how we secure | :03:12. | :03:22. | |
their future of social care in the long-term. We have plans to put | :03:23. | :03:30. | |
spending on a sustainable footing for the future. The lady member | :03:31. | :03:36. | |
herself said it from the front bench that this was... I won't embarrass | :03:37. | :03:42. | |
her by reading out the very long list of times that the Labour | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
Government attempted to grapple with this issue. I will not take an | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
intervention. I am not going to take another intervention. I am going to | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
have the same amount of time that she took. But the list is very long. | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
It was in Labour's manifesto in 1997 that they would tackle it, a Royal | :04:01. | :04:07. | |
commission in 1999, a Green paper in 2005, a review said it would be | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
resolved by 2007, then another green paper in 2009. 13 wasted years. | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
There are long grass was very long indeed. It is not just the new money | :04:20. | :04:27. | |
we are injecting into social care, we are injecting an extra ?425 | :04:28. | :04:35. | |
million into the NHS, helping A Tiptree Irish patients more | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
effectively, and to improve the way services are provided in the | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
long-term. Add dressing and putting more money into social care and | :04:43. | :04:53. | |
those specific parts of the NHS is addressing some of the issues Simon | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
Stevens talked about as some of the immediate challenges in the system. | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
I know my honourable friend for Harrow East had asked questions | :05:01. | :05:05. | |
about the SDP requirement. This investment set out was to make a | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
real difference by supporting regions with the strongest plans | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
ready now to deliver their long-term vision, and we will revisit STPs in | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
the autumn to see if there are further areas with strong cases for | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
investment, but the NHS has its part to play too in looking at how they | :05:23. | :05:29. | |
can use unused land to put money into reinvesting. I want to give him | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
that assurance. Let me talk a little about education and skills. We have | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
taken action to fundamentally reform and improve school education, and | :05:40. | :05:42. | |
with the result never acknowledged from the other side that there are | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
now 1.8 more children in God are outstanding schools than in 2010. | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
This simple fact that vast Lismore children are getting a good or | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
outstanding education, but in this Budget, we went further. We further | :05:56. | :06:01. | |
galvanise our schools with ?320 million of investment in new | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
schools, and ?260 million for the maintenance of existing schools, and | :06:07. | :06:09. | |
enjoy juicing, as my right honourable friend spoke about, I | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
thought really compellingly in his opening speech, sweeping reforms to | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
put technical skills at the heart of our education system, and I sense a | :06:18. | :06:21. | |
great degree of cross-party consensus on the fact that this has | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
been an undervalued part of our education system. For young adults, | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
giving them a chance to develop new talents that will stand them in good | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
stead for the future, and of course, stand out as a country and our | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
economy in good stead as we work towards the high skill, high wedge, | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
high-tech economy that we want to see, that will help us to be | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
competitive in a global marketplace. Madam Deputy Speaker, I have spoken | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
about the importance of controlling public finances, investing carefully | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
and public services, and making sure spending is sustainable, but I also | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
want to make a few remarks about the importance of making sure our tax | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
system is sustainable. We can't talk about one side without the other. | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
The flip side of how we invest is how we fund public services. Two | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
particular issues. First, business rates. A number of people in the | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
debate have mentioned it. It is right that we update them to reflect | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
today's property values, but we recognise that for some, that has | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
meant a sudden jump. I thank the member for Richmond on his excellent | :07:29. | :07:34. | |
speech. I am familiar with some of the beautiful pups in his | :07:35. | :07:41. | |
constituency. They were part -- pubs. They were part of a package | :07:42. | :07:47. | |
that is being worked on, ?435 million of the support that lack of | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
support to help businesses manage the steepest increases following the | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
revaluation. Second, the changes we have made to NICs. I want to respond | :07:55. | :08:00. | |
to some of the points made. First, let's be clear that contributory | :08:01. | :08:10. | |
benefits which NICs fund are different employment rights. Much of | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
the debate today has crisscrossed between those two important but | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
distinct subjects. National insurance pays into a fund which | :08:18. | :08:23. | |
pays out the NHS and contributory benefits are principally the state | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
pension, but also parental pay. We have announced we're looking at and | :08:29. | :08:36. | |
paternity rights. We have said 20%. The vast majority of that national | :08:37. | :08:38. | |
insurance fund pays towards the state pension, and as has been made | :08:39. | :08:45. | |
clear, that is now available both to the employed and self-employed, an | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
important part of a necessary step to level up what people get in terms | :08:51. | :08:56. | |
of benefits, but it is also important and necessary to level the | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
playing field in terms of what people pay in. The Prime Minister | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
has asked Matthew Taylor to look at the issue of employment rights. We | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
will return to look at those important issues later this year. | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
Whether you are self-employed or an employee, if you do a similar job, | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
get a similar wage and receive similar benefits, you should pay a | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
similar tax. Actually, this is something recognised by Labour's | :09:22. | :09:27. | |
Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary, the member for Oldham East. I really | :09:28. | :09:33. | |
hope that all the members who have spoken today, the members for Ilford | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
North, Bootle, and the rest, I hope they are not disowning the | :09:41. | :09:43. | |
self-employment review, the commission launched by the | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
Honourable member for Oldham East last November, when she said that | :09:48. | :09:52. | |
one of the five principles of Labour's self-employment commission, | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
launched last November, was that self-employed NICs should rise | :09:57. | :10:04. | |
towards employee levels. She went on to say, we cannot expect employees | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
to pay in more while offering quality that entitlements across | :10:11. | :10:20. | |
employment status. I realise that Labour's front bench rotates with | :10:21. | :10:35. | |
dizzying speed... Order! Minister. They don't like my remark. I realise | :10:36. | :10:42. | |
that front benchers rotate with dizzying speed, but I suggest that | :10:43. | :10:49. | |
Labour members actually do look at the self-employed commission that | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
they launched only last November. Now, the majority of people affected | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
by this change would be better wrath from the combined changes to NICs | :10:58. | :11:04. | |
that we have made. Only someone with profits above ?60,250 will have to | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
pay more. As some members have remarked in the debate, ?1800 worth | :11:10. | :11:12. | |
of pension entitlement is what the new state pension is worth to | :11:13. | :11:20. | |
someone on it, something the FSB has campaigned for, among others. In | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
closing, it is obvious from the critique we have been offered from | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
the benches opposite that whilst we have a plethora of suggestions about | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
how to raise taxes and spending, we have no coherent alternative | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
economic policy, and that was clearly in evidence yesterday in the | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
response that we have from the Leader of the Opposition. The fact | :11:42. | :11:47. | |
that there are so many former frontbencher is here today is | :11:48. | :11:49. | |
testament to that. We need to get spending and revenue raising in | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
balance, the mark of a responsible Government. That balance allows us | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
to safeguard the public services we all value for the future. The | :11:58. | :12:04. | |
question is that the debate be now adjourned. The ayes have it. Debate | :12:05. | :12:18. | |
to be resumed on what day? Monday. Silent Monday. The question is that | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
this House do now adjourned. Mrs Anne-Marie Trevelyan. | :12:25. | :12:29. |