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This week: a sacking in Washington, a timely election leak in the UK, | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
and Donald Trump's visits to the Middle East and the Vatican. | :00:30. | :00:32. | |
Debating all of that are Stephanie Baker, | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
from the international news agency Bloomberg News, | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
Janet Daley, political columnist with Britain's Sunday Telegraph | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
newspaper, Jonathan Sacredoti from i-24 News, an Israeli | :00:41. | :00:43. | |
Mustapha Karkouti from the Dubai-based newspaper, Gulf News. | :00:44. | :00:53. | |
Donald Trump sacked plenty of would-be business moguls | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
on the reality TV series "The Apprentice", barking "you're | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
James Comey received his dismissal as Director of the FBI in a note. | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
Getting rid of TV contestants doesn't have many consequences; | :01:03. | :01:04. | |
sacking the head of the country's key crime fighting agency when he's | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
investigating those around you, well that's proving harder | :01:08. | :01:09. | |
What was he thinking? He did not handle the swell. He is not good at | :01:10. | :01:30. | |
firing people. The messaging was incredibly messy. He tried out, | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
various Trump surrogates to argue that this was prompted by a memo | :01:36. | :01:43. | |
from the Deputy Attorney General calling on his dismissal because of | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
the handling of the Hillary Clinton e-mail investigation. No one was | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
buying that because Trump had praised his handling of that | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
repeatedly as had Jeff Sessions, the Attorney General. Then Trump | :01:57. | :02:04. | |
contradicted his own staff, and that he had been planning on firing him | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
anyway and he was thinking about the Russia investigation when he decided | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
to do it and actually the trigger had been watching James Comey | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
testify last Wednesday, where he said that the notion of his | :02:19. | :02:23. | |
intervention in the election to tilted towards Trump made him out of | :02:24. | :02:30. | |
the notches. That enraged Trump. The interesting and controversial thing | :02:31. | :02:37. | |
is the involvement of Jeff Sessions. He excused himself from the Russia | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
investigation because he was a key figure in the Trump campaign and his | :02:42. | :02:44. | |
involvement in the firing of Comey has raised a lot of questions and | :02:45. | :02:50. | |
criticism from Congress. He got flack for saying he had met the | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
Russian ambassador but had not mentioned it. Exactly. Lastly, Trump | :02:56. | :03:08. | |
dug his -- dug himself into a bigger codger Mercy with a veiled threat to | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
James Comey that he might not leak because they might be tapes. That | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
has set up a whole round of speculation about what kind of | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
taping system he has, good the comparisons with Nixon get any more | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
stark? You have top Democrats in Congress calling on him to release | :03:31. | :03:36. | |
whatever tapes he may have. I think that this is getting very troubling | :03:37. | :03:42. | |
and I think, his credibility is under question. He has appeared to | :03:43. | :03:54. | |
calm down a little bit in Washington. It looked like the | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
administration was getting into a rhythm of working. It is not just | :03:59. | :04:06. | |
the inconsistencies and contradictions, inexperienced White | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
House administrators do often screw up and contradict themselves, but it | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
is the shamelessness of it, it is the preposterous arrogance of it. He | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
contradicted his own earlier account of why he had sacked him and turned | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
it on his head and he did not seem the slightest bit embarrassed. Word | :04:25. | :04:32. | |
is this Rovira, narcissism, how can that possibly be credible in a | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
President? I am old enough to remember Nixon and Watergate and | :04:37. | :04:41. | |
there was at least a degree of shame and embarrassment and culpability | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
and when those tapes were released, the Watergate tapes, and he was | :04:45. | :04:51. | |
caught red handed having plotted the Watergate burglary and what was most | :04:52. | :04:58. | |
shocking, to the American public was the language that he used. Everybody | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
discovered that he spoke in the most obscene stream of four letter words | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
to his aides, they talk like gangsters, now Trump talks like this | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
in television interviews! There is something very peculiar that has | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
happened to the American political consciousness, for this even to be | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
not instantly impeachable. It gets to the whole issue of Nixon who went | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
to great lengths to deny that there were any tapes and now we have Trump | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
advertising that he has them. Perhaps making it up. I think what | :05:36. | :05:40. | |
is interesting about this is that we are dealing with the President who | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
plays by different rules, they are the rules of entertainment and | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
television. He seems well versed in those in ways that other politicians | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
are catching up then and while the media are on the whole condemning | :05:53. | :05:55. | |
him for these sorts of behaviours and absurd things he is saying, it | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
seems at odds of the way that the President of speaking. He is hiding | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
the real issues. The issues that he does not want discussed, like the | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
investigation into the alleged collusion with Russia is not what we | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
have discussed before. I would also say that like him or not, we need to | :06:13. | :06:27. | |
say there is very little concrete evidence that that has happened and | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
President Obama was also caught in 2012 saying that he wanted a bit | :06:32. | :06:33. | |
more time to get through his next election... These are not things | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
that politicians have not done in the past. He is the master of | :06:37. | :06:38. | |
distracting from them. The word collusion is a very strong word, | :06:39. | :06:40. | |
which implies there was conscious conspiracy with a foreign power, and | :06:41. | :06:43. | |
an friendly form her, that is tantamount to treason. The idea that | :06:44. | :06:50. | |
you have to prove collusion makes the case really hard. You think the | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
standard should be lower? Yes. I do not think collusion is the right | :06:56. | :07:03. | |
word. I was in Washington, DC and I was talking to officials. The main | :07:04. | :07:11. | |
worry is about democracy, what is happening, what is the impact, what | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
with that leave of democracy itself? Their main worry, is that society | :07:18. | :07:25. | |
itself, it cannot guarantee to stop that impact in a way. He is very | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
dangerous. They are really scared and frightened by hand. This is | :07:31. | :07:38. | |
really testing US institutions. I think he is democratically elected | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
as President even if people around this table do not like him and he is | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
following procedures, other people have been fired in the same role. He | :07:46. | :07:52. | |
was accused of filling his expenses. He went for a process that has | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
President and he is somebody, Comey is someone that the Democrats wanted | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
to have fired. They have looked awkward because they have gone from | :08:03. | :08:08. | |
say that this man was responsible through the election, one Democrat | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
told me that James Comey is a bit of a Boy Scout. It is difficult for the | :08:12. | :08:22. | |
Democrats to agree. They have said unfortunate things about him in the | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
past. In a sense, you could read, their interpretation of this as | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
having considerable integrity. Even though they have got a grudge | :08:32. | :08:34. | |
against him and they have grounds for objecting to him, they do not | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
like the way this has been done. That is a legitimate thing to say. | :08:38. | :08:42. | |
The issue is the timing, why is he doing it now? If it was about | :08:43. | :08:48. | |
Hillary Clinton, why was it not done the day after the inauguration? | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
Comey was about as for more resources to pursue the Russian | :08:53. | :08:59. | |
connection. Donald Trump is probably glad to be getting out of the | :09:00. | :09:00. | |
country. After the week he's had, | :09:01. | :09:02. | |
President Trump may be mightily He's heading to Saudi Arabia | :09:03. | :09:04. | |
and then to Israel before This is something much bigger and | :09:05. | :09:18. | |
has much bigger consequences. I wonder if people are viewing this as | :09:19. | :09:21. | |
a serious attempt to move the process forward in terms of the | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
Israeli and the Palestinians are whether it is just a bit of | :09:27. | :09:32. | |
international diplomatic theatre. It is extremely serious. That is what I | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
hear and also from the Americans themselves. At the same time, being | :09:38. | :09:45. | |
in that shaky position, I don't know how much that will impact on his | :09:46. | :09:53. | |
international activities and policy. He is very serious, he has been | :09:54. | :10:04. | |
talking to the Palestinian President and his people are saying that he is | :10:05. | :10:12. | |
very optimistic, apparently he did tell Abbas that he was serious about | :10:13. | :10:21. | |
the question of pressing Binjamin Netanyahu to come forward and sort | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
this out, because at the end of the day, there is an agreement, there is | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
an agreement between the two sides on the agreement, but the Israelis | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
are hesitating in moving there. Just on the question of the Israeli | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
position, Binjamin Netanyahu has been the dominant player in Israeli | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
politics for well over a decade but he is still only the head of a | :10:45. | :10:47. | |
Coalition government partly because the electoral system in Israel, is | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
he in a strong enough position to take some kind of initiative? | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
Historically, it has been right wing Israeli ministers who have managed | :10:59. | :11:01. | |
to make peace deals with Arab neighbours and I think there is | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
plenty of optimism around and I think Donald Trump really puts | :11:06. | :11:08. | |
forward a new window of opportunity for both sides. It seems that both | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
leaders have visited him in DC and both have come out of that | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
surprisingly saying that they got on very well with them, including Abbas | :11:17. | :11:19. | |
who said that there seem to be some area for development and that | :11:20. | :11:37. | |
is surprising because everyone assumes that Donald Trump would be | :11:38. | :11:39. | |
firmly on the side of Israel. What Donald Trump has to do now is what | :11:40. | :11:42. | |
we have been discussing before, turn this from being a show and being all | :11:43. | :11:45. | |
about him, this is the man who prides himself on making deals, this | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
is the ultimate deal and turn it into concrete action. He did the | :11:49. | :11:50. | |
first step by making both sides like him, something that Barack Obama | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
failed to do, he put a lot of pressure on Israel ask you for | :11:54. | :11:55. | |
preconditions that the Palestinians had asked for, including onset of | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
building. If anything, it in bold at the extremists on the Palestinian | :11:59. | :12:05. | |
side. Trump has managed in 100 days to get both sides favourable towards | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
him and perhaps to consider new negotiations. The issue has always | :12:10. | :12:18. | |
been that talks had been hobbled by preconditions, either going to be | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
preconditions, because we have been here before so many times? | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
Preconditions are really used in order not to take action, it is a | :12:28. | :12:34. | |
tactful thing and it is really ridiculous in a way, because the | :12:35. | :12:40. | |
whole plan is quite clear, there was also about 20 years ago, both sides | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
agreed and sat together and agreed on peace plans, there were other | :12:44. | :12:51. | |
meetings following that. It is the right wing government in Israel | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
which is really putting these obstacles, the settlement question | :12:56. | :13:01. | |
is very serious. There is an argument... The Palestinian | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
authority is paying the murders of people like the British student who | :13:05. | :13:15. | |
was stabbed. Soldiers who engaged in warfare. People who stab Christian | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
British students are not necessarily peacemakers. Those are not so little | :13:21. | :13:26. | |
for the families who lost people in terrorist attacks. Not little for | :13:27. | :13:28. | |
the Palestinians who lost people in military action. They are wrongly | :13:29. | :13:34. | |
used to create obstacles in front of peace. If you remember the press | :13:35. | :13:41. | |
conference that he gave, it was quite absurd in the sense that he | :13:42. | :13:46. | |
was saying, you guys sorted out between yourself and what ever you | :13:47. | :13:48. | |
agree on will be all right with me and I will sit here and do... Were | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
ever. It just shows the most appalling ignorance of the | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
difficulties and the complexities of the situation. I don't think he has | :13:59. | :14:05. | |
a clue. He is not the point man, his son-in-law is. The reason that both | :14:06. | :14:12. | |
sides but be feeling optimistic is because they think there is a vacuum | :14:13. | :14:15. | |
in the White House and if they both played their cards cleverly enough | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
they might be able to get... Isn't that what both sides really needed? | :14:20. | :14:26. | |
Even though his method of saying it is absurd A, what he is actually | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
saying is he will not impose things from outside, he wants to | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
facilitate, he has a ridiculous way of saying things... What he said | :14:35. | :14:37. | |
was, you figure out a deal that satisfies both of you, there is no | :14:38. | :14:41. | |
deal that satisfies both of them, that is the whole point and someone | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
has to arbitrate and if he is saying, I am not interested in | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
arbitration... I think he is keen to arbitrate but he is saying he will | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
not impose preconditions and vote for unilateral moves at the UN. I | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
suspect that what we are dealing with is a President I work we do not | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
understand how to read his service appearance. I am hoping. Maybe that | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
is all there is! I was in Washington, the Americans are | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
worried about the whole situation, because the entire region is in | :15:15. | :15:22. | |
turmoil and it is flaring up. This might transpire to the Palestine and | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
Israel situation. Imagine if that happened there, what is going to | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
happen? He is going first to Saudi Arabia which is an interesting first | :15:35. | :15:42. | |
white? The first trip of a US President is loaded with symbolism. | :15:43. | :15:46. | |
Going to Saudi Arabia, he is expected to get a warm welcome, | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
ironically, despite him pursuing this Muslim ban, Saudi Arabia | :15:51. | :15:58. | |
escaped that ban. I think leaders in Saudi Arabia who are keen to reset | :15:59. | :16:06. | |
relations, and were disheartened by the pursuit by Barack Obama of the | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
Iran nuclear deal, we reported this week that actually the Saudi Arabia | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
are prepared to invest in US infrastructure and that could be | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
unveiled at the same time. You could sell it as a domestic thing. | :16:20. | :16:26. | |
Exactly. Making America great again. The fact that he is warmly regarded | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
in Saudi Arabia could change the balance of power. Iniesta goes here | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
since. I do think largely speaking he is going on to the Vatican were | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
ironically he might perceive the roughest reception. Old to be a fly | :16:41. | :16:47. | |
on the wall! Pope Francis has criticised him, his immigration | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
policies and then he goes on to the G-7 will be heard finance ministers | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
expressing concern about the threat that his policies pose to | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
multilateral trade and the possibility that his moves could | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
harm global growth. In addition to the economic aspect, don't forget | :17:06. | :17:15. | |
Iran is going to be the main... He is building a Coalition that can | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
deal with Iran and Isis and for the first time those three are in | :17:21. | :17:23. | |
relatively good terms with each other and with America, something | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
which lie, not is gratuitous. It could be a moment that needs to be | :17:29. | :17:30. | |
seized. It's less than a month now | :17:31. | :17:32. | |
until Britain goes to the polls. The oppposition Labour Party | :17:33. | :17:35. | |
had its manifesto leaked, whilst in a joint TV appearance, | :17:36. | :17:37. | |
Prime Minister May and her husband lifted the - bin - | :17:38. | :17:39. | |
lid on their marriage. Last time, the pundits | :17:40. | :17:41. | |
predicted a hung parliament This time, the talk | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
is of a landslide. Janet, you and I were sitting next | :17:45. | :17:57. | |
to each other only two years ago, when you were proud to have been | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
pretty much the only person who predicted that the Tories were going | :18:02. | :18:04. | |
to win and that was not going to be a hung Parliament. Will you make a | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
prediction as to? Absolutely. Everyone will make the same | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
prediction, so I will not be unique. I have not met anyone who said they | :18:15. | :18:17. | |
would vote for Ed Miliband and that is why I make that prediction and I | :18:18. | :18:20. | |
have met here people who said they would vote for Jeremy Corbyn. | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
Considering that it is a foregone conclusion, this election, it is | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
surprisingly not boring. Partly because the Labour thing is such a | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
Marx Brothers production, it has become so shambolic, so for pure | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
entertainment value, it keeps you riveted. Everyone is also | :18:40. | :18:42. | |
speculating about what happens after is, what happens to Labour | :18:43. | :18:58. | |
and the Tories afterwards, what does Theresa May really believe in terms | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
of political principles. If she actually a Tory or is she trying to | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
occupy the centre-left left empty by Tony Blair. The big question, will | :19:05. | :19:07. | |
Jeremy Corbyn stay on as leader? It looks now as if he is intending to | :19:08. | :19:10. | |
and there is a lot of subterranean gossip about the leak of the | :19:11. | :19:12. | |
manifesto, was that intended to undermine him or was it intended to | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
rally the militant faithful to make sure he is allowed to stay on | :19:17. | :19:19. | |
afterwards? What will happen to that space that used to be occupied by | :19:20. | :19:26. | |
soft left opposition in this country? That is the most serious | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
question. How are you describing the selection if you are touching it at | :19:32. | :19:37. | |
all to your readers? It is very difficult, in a way, extremely | :19:38. | :19:42. | |
difficult, because the way we see it happening, the election system here, | :19:43. | :19:53. | |
based on constituency, in a way, is not presidential. Jeremy Corbyn may | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
have a better chance if that was a presidential system, because of his | :19:58. | :20:03. | |
populism policies and all of that, but we see it extremely difficult | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
for Labour to increase their seats in Parliament. They may lose a lot | :20:09. | :20:18. | |
more this time around. It is totally difficult to explain to our readers | :20:19. | :20:26. | |
this situation in Britain. There is no leadership of quality on both | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
sides, I must say, not only on Labour, the Conservative leadership | :20:32. | :20:34. | |
is not that impressive. It is not high-quality. I think that is very | :20:35. | :20:40. | |
unfair on Theresa May, she has played a blinder, she has managed to | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
unite our party that has always been divided over Europe. Is that | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
temporarily? Look how well she is doing, when plagued other leaders | :20:50. | :20:52. | |
and then we look at Jeremy Corbyn who on the other hand have been | :20:53. | :20:55. | |
trying desperately to appeal to voters at the far left and the | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
middle ground, offering things like extra bank holidays and free | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
tuition, it is a miracle he has not offered everyone a free puppy or a | :21:04. | :21:13. | |
unicorn. Then he said he was not a pacifist, we knew that, he has had | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
no problem with the IRA or organisations like how mass and | :21:17. | :21:18. | |
Hezbollah who specialise in killing civilians. He would say that they | :21:19. | :21:20. | |
were in situations they were forced into where they had no choice. He is | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
certainly no pacifist. He is not saying now that he would necessarily | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
accept those situations in current circumstances. He said he would | :21:30. | :21:36. | |
invite Hezbollah for tea. When someone was not leader of the party, | :21:37. | :21:39. | |
that is when we see their true colours. I'll be seen enough of | :21:40. | :21:44. | |
Theresa May, what this leadership means? She's talks about strong and | :21:45. | :21:47. | |
stable leadership but that is almost all we have got so far. Has she done | :21:48. | :21:53. | |
very well for a Remainer? She is now coming out as Mrs Brexit, people are | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
accusing her of wanting some sort of extreme Brexit, I would dispute this | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
distinction between the two. It is such a false dichotomy and I think | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
Theresa May is proving fairly consistent. She has been reliable | :22:07. | :22:10. | |
and perhaps a little bit boring for her whole | :22:11. | :22:28. | |
career, she is the first prime ministers who has not tried to play | :22:29. | :22:32. | |
it cool and she is continuing with the vicars daughter act, I think it | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
is not an act, that is the point. I think it is really heard. We have | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
this manifesto lake and we might have expected more hostility to it | :22:39. | :22:40. | |
than we actually got, has something changed in the political mood, when | :22:41. | :22:42. | |
renationalise the railways and restricting energy competition is | :22:43. | :22:44. | |
something that even the Prime Minister wants to do. I think most | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
people wrote off that leak of the manifesto as of no consequence | :22:48. | :22:50. | |
because he has no chance of winning. In a sense, the policies do not | :22:51. | :22:54. | |
matter. That is part of the reason why I find this to be one of the | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
most boring elections I have witnessed in this country. At the | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
same time, one of the most important, I think, in decades, | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
because of the impact on the country long term. With the terms of Brexit | :23:07. | :23:11. | |
being negotiated. She has called the election just as Britain is | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
teetering on the brink of an economic slowdown, we do not know | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
how severe it could be, why the Eurozone is just taking off. In that | :23:20. | :23:25. | |
sense that this is the shrewd politics, get it out of the way | :23:26. | :23:28. | |
before things get messy. Absolutely and it is shrewd of her to have | :23:29. | :23:34. | |
pushed ahead with it now. I do wonder... The reason why it is | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
boring if it was just confirmed the status quo and it is a question of | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
how big a majority she will get. I wonder if she will get as big a | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
majority as people are expected because the expectations are that it | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
is a slam dunk for the Tories are why even bother voting and there is | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
a certain degree of weariness with elections that we have had 2015 | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
general election, 2016 referendum and that the turnout could be very | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
difficult to predict. I would be inclined to agree under other | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
circumstances but the referendum politicise the country in a peculiar | :24:10. | :24:15. | |
sort of way. People are politically hyperactive and they are not bored | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
with this, actually. They might be bored with this particular election | :24:20. | :24:22. | |
debate but they are not bored with the idea of who might lead the | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
Brexit negotiations. That is a matter that many people regard as a | :24:27. | :24:29. | |
matter of life and death and the idea that there could be any remote | :24:30. | :24:32. | |
chance that they could be let into the Brexit negotiations by Jeremy | :24:33. | :24:39. | |
Corbyn, I think that will galvanise. This is an extremely exciting | :24:40. | :24:41. | |
political moment for British people, for the first time in at least one | :24:42. | :24:44. | |
generation they had been given a direct say in the future of the | :24:45. | :24:47. | |
country, the constitutional direction it will take and they know | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
that they will need a leader who's going to carry them through that. It | :24:52. | :24:54. | |
is incredibly risky and that is why many people who did not like the EU | :24:55. | :25:00. | |
voted remain. On that argument, they have that lead already, she was | :25:01. | :25:06. | |
there and they could have on. She said she was planning that. | :25:07. | :25:17. | |
I am worried a little bit, we should not ignore the younger generation. I | :25:18. | :25:23. | |
have three children and they all think differently. And they are | :25:24. | :25:30. | |
pro-Jeremy Corbyn. They actually go out and vote? They will, no doubt, I | :25:31. | :25:36. | |
will myself. These are three kids, they represent, I think, a good part | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
of the society itself. That is an interesting change in the way | :25:43. | :25:48. | |
voters, the breakdown of the traditional alliances. Instead of | :25:49. | :25:51. | |
having class as the defining characteristic of who votes for | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
which party, it is now generations. I was at Cambridge the other week | :25:56. | :26:01. | |
and I will not say which college and I was talking to a considerable | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
number of students and almost to a man they were saying they voted to | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
support Jeremy Corbyn in the leadership and they were ruing the | :26:10. | :26:14. | |
day and they regretted it. We will all know the outcome in just under | :26:15. | :26:21. | |
one month. Thank you all very much for being with us. | :26:22. | :26:23. | |
That's it for Dateline London for this week - | :26:24. | :26:25. | |
we're back next week at the same time. | :26:26. | :26:27. | |
You can of course comment on the programme on Twitter @bbcshaunley. | :26:28. | :26:30. | |
Hello there. It is not plain sailing weather wise. They have low pressure | :26:31. | :27:05. | |
across the north-west of the UK and that is giving quite a bit of cloud | :27:06. | :27:11. | |
train but for many, there is sunshine on offer. That | :27:12. | :27:12. |