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Their share of the vote was down, reflecting the swing to the big | :00:00. | 3:59:59 | |
parties. Good morning and welcome to this | :00:00. | :00:13. | |
Spotlight Election Special. In the next half hour, | :00:14. | :00:15. | |
we'll be live in Plymouth where Labour have taken | :00:16. | :00:18. | |
a seat from the Conservatives. We'll be live in Cornwall | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
where the Lib Dems are pinning any remaining hopes of taking | :00:23. | :00:24. | |
a South West seat on the two constituencies there | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
still being counted. And we'll have comprehensive | :00:28. | :00:28. | |
analysis of the results from our panel of unspun political | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
pundits here in the studio with our guests Adrian Lee, | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
Nick Bye, John Burnett First, here's Lucie with the very | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
latest on the new political map If we can bring up the map. Labour | :00:38. | :00:46. | |
in a sea of blue. The Conservative sea of blue has | :00:47. | :01:01. | |
a new island this morning. Labour not only held Exeter | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
where Ben Bradshaw more than doubled his majority | :01:05. | :01:06. | |
but Labour has gained Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport | :01:07. | :01:08. | |
as Luke Pollard ousted Conservative Oliver Colvile who has | :01:09. | :01:10. | |
been an MP for seven years. To see so many people, | :01:11. | :01:12. | |
especially people that vote Labour this time has been | :01:13. | :01:14. | |
incredible and there's an awful lot of trust that people have placed | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
in me and the campaigns that I mentioned during my election | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
campaign about getting better transport, getting a better funding | :01:22. | :01:23. | |
deal for the city need to start Now here are the vote | :01:24. | :01:26. | |
share figures for Devon. The Conservatives up 5% | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
on their 2015 performance. And look at Ukip, their | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
vote share down 12.9%, And now Labour, for the first time | :01:37. | :01:38. | |
since the '70s, Labour is now | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
in second place in Devon with 28.8% of the vote, | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
up 10.8% on 2015. Our reporter Scott Bingham has been | :01:47. | :01:52. | |
talking to some of those first-time Scott. | :01:53. | :02:08. | |
Yes, it was third time lucky for Luke Pollard, the most marginal seat | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
in our area in the south west. A slim majority for Oliver Colvile at | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
the last election of just 523 seats, Luke Pollard has turned that into a | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
lead of 6000. That's more than 53% of the voting share. Pollard has | :02:27. | :02:29. | |
stood against Coalville in the last two elections and that narrow | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
majority was reduced at the last election as well. Where have these | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
rates come from? I am stood here in front of the heart of student land | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
and Luke Pollard made it his goal to target the young votes. The degree | :02:45. | :02:50. | |
students, that seems to work, according to some of the people we | :02:51. | :02:51. | |
spoke to last night. Obviously it means more | :02:52. | :02:53. | |
nationally, that's another vote in the pot and that | :02:54. | :02:55. | |
but we need to see across the board For Plymouth, I think that's | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
a really good thing, you know, for working-class people | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
and everyone else. Feeling fantastic because I do | :03:04. | :03:04. | |
massively support Jeremy Corbyn, he's brought a lot back to | :03:05. | :03:06. | |
the Labour Party that was missing, for the fact it was the Labour Party | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
for the socialists, We have also seen Ukip's vote | :03:10. | :03:27. | |
collapsed in this constituency and it would seem those rates appear to | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
have gone over to Labour. You keep vote also collapsed in neighbouring | :03:32. | :03:38. | |
Moorview where conservative Johnny Mercer hurled his seat. -- held his | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
seat. Linda, last year during | :03:44. | :03:44. | |
Jeremy Corbyn's second leadership campaign you said, "I can't see how | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
Jeremy can take us forward. The problem about Jeremy...is he's | :03:49. | :03:51. | |
missing some really basic Is it time for you and many other | :03:52. | :04:02. | |
people like you in Labour now to eat humble pie? We are a very broad | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
church and that is what one is back in Devonport. You are saying he was | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
a loser, you were not the only one. And I still have misgivings. I have | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
to say he has bought something to political leadership in the country | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
and assertiveness rather than aggressiveness which I think people | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
really appreciate. As well as what the person that said, that he is a | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
voice that is speaking for working-class people in a way that | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
they recognise. But what is the way forward the Labour? Particularly if | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
Theresa May has made it clear that she wants to hang on, but | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
particularly if there is some kind of Labour led government? If I knew | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
the answer to that, I doubt people have been trying to answer that all | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
night. We do not know, we are going to have to find a way ahead. We will | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
have to see if people can rise as Jamie has done in many respects, he | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
has led this from being way behind in the poll, 20 plus to being neck | :05:04. | :05:11. | |
and neck. -- as Jeremy Hunt is done in many respects. He has leadership | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
that has come out in the cause of real action that I have never seen | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
in him before. Let's see what happens. John, what is your | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
prediction? My prediction is that the party that is in government, the | :05:25. | :05:35. | |
Conservative Party has bottled down all the antagonisms, the competitive | :05:36. | :05:40. | |
feelings, the animosity, the enmity is and that is going to be thrown | :05:41. | :05:46. | |
open for the public to see. The Tory party are now, I believe, going to | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
rip themselves to pieces. Is that what we can look forward to in the | :05:51. | :05:57. | |
next days? Mrs May, I do not think it was a very good campaign for Mrs | :05:58. | :06:04. | |
May, her holes did not run very well,. -- her horse. Should the | :06:05. | :06:11. | |
walls run on? She was responsible for this campaign. I can't think | :06:12. | :06:17. | |
that a different personality or going through a leadership contest | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
all the upset in Westminster and the infighting and other people being | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
disappointed, I do not think that would achieve anything. People have | :06:27. | :06:36. | |
to accept that the Conservatives... A stunningly good result in Torbay, | :06:37. | :06:44. | |
the Conservatives have emerged as the largest party with almost 320 | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
seat and we know that you can just about get through with that. I do | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
not think there is any question... Has it started already? She has been | :06:52. | :06:58. | |
called to read consider her position. George Osborne has said | :06:59. | :07:04. | |
the campaign has been a catastrophe for Mrs May and the Conservative | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
Party. They have been bottled up for at least three years, two years | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
since the last election and the referendum particularly. And I think | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
that that will be exposed to the public gaze and public scrutiny. | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
Absolutely. One of the reasons that Mrs May called the election was | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
because she could foresee that she was going to be hostage to those who | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
wanted hard Brexit and she wanted a better majority to give her more | :07:33. | :07:35. | |
authority and leadership in her own right. I want to move on to the Lib | :07:36. | :07:42. | |
Dems. It has hardly been a glorious night for you either. | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
It remained unchanged across the south-west and Lucy gives us a bit | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
more of the details. Com or change from being dominated | :07:51. | :08:03. | |
by the Lib Dems to turning all blue. They were concentrating their heads | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
down here in St Ives, they came close, following the recount, Derek | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
Thomas held onto it for the Conservatives but only by 312 votes. | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
Our political reporter Tamsin Melville is at | :08:15. | :08:15. | |
Good morning to you from the count. It does seem to be this story from | :08:16. | :08:27. | |
Cornwall this morning, business as usual. We have had bought the six | :08:28. | :08:34. | |
counts and all so far have been conservative holes. A story is | :08:35. | :08:40. | |
battle for second place. The Lib Dems were hoping for a resurgent | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
this time and that has not happened, certainly not so far and it has been | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
labour that has maybe gainsay. Into constituencies, they saw a swing of | :08:49. | :08:54. | |
20% and more in their favour running the Conservatives now very closely. | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
To discuss what might have gone wrong for the Lib Dems I'm joined by | :08:58. | :09:04. | |
the candidate for North Cornwall, Dan Rogerson. Did you perhaps | :09:05. | :09:06. | |
nationally but what has gone wrong here in Cornwall? A mixed picture. | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
We have seen in St Ives are very close result with the Liberal | :09:12. | :09:14. | |
Democrat Andrew George nearly took that feedback, it is a great shame | :09:15. | :09:17. | |
it did not happen. Yet the declaration of North Cornwall and I | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
suspect we will see the usual close fight between Liberal Democrat and | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
Conservative there with Labour way back. We have seen in other | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
elections in the past types that rise and fall nationally. What | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
matters is the reason are under these that, let local councillors, | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
sustain a campaign when things are not going so well nationally. I | :09:38. | :09:40. | |
think what was the over the coming years is Liberal Democrats in those | :09:41. | :09:47. | |
seats, against the Conservatives. He is still waiting for his result. Two | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
more to come here, North Cornwall. The story of the night is big gains | :09:54. | :10:06. | |
in Cornwall. -- the Labour gains. How long will it take? | :10:07. | :10:14. | |
The announcements are not here. Saudis, is being announced as we | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
speak. North Cornwall not too far away. | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
We will come back to you hopefully when that happens. | :10:24. | :10:29. | |
Labour replacing the Lib Dems? That is certainly the case at the moment | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
in Devon and that is the first time that has really happened since the | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
early 1970s and the beginnings if you like of the then Liberal revival | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
in the region. But the interesting thing is what is happening to the | :10:46. | :10:53. | |
Ukip vote and many people were suggesting that the Ukip collapse, | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
as it proved to be, would simply benefit the Conservatives. But it | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
has a differential impact in different constituencies in | :11:04. | :11:05. | |
different regions and indeed in different districts. Are you | :11:06. | :11:16. | |
surprised by this, Nick? For the Liberals, they are behind the water | :11:17. | :11:27. | |
line in the south-west. You were 11. -- you were one one. 30 years ago. | :11:28. | :11:39. | |
They have gone to bed in the coalition with the Conservatives may | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
have lost some people in the south-west by being on the wrong | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
side of the argument in the south-west among certain voters on | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
the EU. Sadly, I think it is very difficult now to see the Liberals | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
getting going on in the south-west. If you look at the situation in | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
Devon, you were a Devon MP. This been unthinkable not that long ago, | :12:00. | :12:05. | |
Labour was the second party in rural Devon? Absolutely right. Two or | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
three things. I think people are very worried in the country, the | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
public is very worried because inflation is going up, wages are | :12:15. | :12:20. | |
static, austerity is there, people are deeply concerned so that does | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
have an effect, I believe, a gym correct me, as polarising the | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
electric and they choose other parties that is easiest to choose, | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
the one that is pole position. That is not quite right. They were | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
offered a very clear choice on this occasion and Labour stood on the | :12:38. | :12:44. | |
platform as anti-public service cuts, and the severity cuts and I | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
think the first time since 1970s, I think Dan Rogerson was right in | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
saying that you need an underlying layer of local councillors and I | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
think with the number of members we have got in the party now, if we can | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
go forward and field candidates in the local election and build on | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
that, some people will never forgive your party, John, this aborting the | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
Tories in some of the policies that have hurt them so much. -- in | :13:11. | :13:18. | |
supporting the Tories. I agree but I have not finished. People are | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
worried and frightened. There are two offerings from the Conservatives | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
and the Labour Party. That polarise the electrode and we fell through | :13:27. | :13:33. | |
the middle in that. You had a track record of supporting policies that | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
hurt people. If the two main parties go to the left and right, that gives | :13:38. | :13:45. | |
them an opportunity? I don't agree with you there. They are worried as | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
well. There is a deep concern and worry in the electrode. They want to | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
back the party that is going to help them and it is really a Paul Grice | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
choice. I do not know what you believe about that. It gives an | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
option the innocence in the centre for a party that actually has to | :14:04. | :14:11. | |
rebuild from a local base and there was some evidence that this is | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
happening in the last county elections at the beginning of May. | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
But it is not a long way to go and of course the Liberal Democrat | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
decline did not just happen in 2015, it was declining at local level in | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
particular before that. The party was in some sense of being hollowed | :14:31. | :14:37. | |
out in particular. Dan Rogerson's seed is going to be very | :14:38. | :14:41. | |
interesting. I know that has not been declared. Bat Dan Rogerson's | :14:42. | :14:53. | |
seat. That is the base which has traditionally served us so well, | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
that has been absent in this election. That is what we have held | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
onto in Plymouth Sutton. Hard-working, explains councillors | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
who were leading the big teams we had out in all the water in | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
Plymouth. In Torbay, the Liberals worked incredibly hard. People still | :15:10. | :15:16. | |
didn't respond to that. We touched on Ukip briefly. | :15:17. | :15:18. | |
Adrian Lee, you've been looking at the differring | :15:19. | :15:20. | |
It is where the Ukip vote went. It went to different places in | :15:21. | :15:33. | |
different parts of the country. If you look at Newton Abbot, the party | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
that benefit appears to have benefited most from Ukip decliner, | :15:37. | :15:45. | |
was in fact Labour. If look at Yeovil, the party that benefited | :15:46. | :15:47. | |
most there was the Conservatives. The Liberal Democrats went backwards | :15:48. | :15:54. | |
in Yeovil to a significant extent. Elsewhere they were really | :15:55. | :15:57. | |
flat-lining. It is extremely difficult, I think, to explain | :15:58. | :16:00. | |
exactly what has happened to the Ukip vote and it has not simply gone | :16:01. | :16:08. | |
to the Conservatives, it has gone to other parties, it has gone in some | :16:09. | :16:12. | |
cases to Labour, it has gone in some cases I suspect into nonvoting and | :16:13. | :16:19. | |
those photos, the statistics, those routers have been replaced by the | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
new younger voters that Linda was talking about. | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
Ukip's candidate in Central Devon defected to the Tories | :16:28. | :16:30. | |
Tim Matthews said Ukip had become a party of racists and extremists. | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
Ukip's former chairman was standing in North Devon, | :16:35. | :16:36. | |
despite his failure to take the seat. | :16:37. | :16:38. | |
Good morning. What do you make of this result? Because I have got the | :16:39. | :16:53. | |
sense that Ukip were not prepared to be sacrificial victims to some | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
extent in the interest as Theresa may getting a decent majority to | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
pursue Brexit. You have sacrificed yourself to some extent but you have | :17:04. | :17:10. | |
not achieved that goal either. No, it's disappointing. We did know that | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
we were going to get bad results. There is some good news, the exit | :17:15. | :17:17. | |
poll that I had going into the account said we were going to be 14 | :17:18. | :17:20. | |
points down across the country. It turns out we are only 11 points | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
down. This is good news indeed. But my point was... You expected to do | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
badly but you thought the reward but that would be Theresa May's majority | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
and then the mandate for something like the kind of Brexit you want to | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
see? We knew that a lot of our boats, the strong Brexiteers would | :17:41. | :17:47. | |
opt to go what they thought was the strongest negotiation position for | :17:48. | :17:49. | |
the country but we have been telling the Tories for many years that Ukip | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
tarmac to not delinquent Tories say the fact they have gone off in all | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
directions is not surprising. If you look at Newton Abbot, the likelihood | :17:59. | :18:05. | |
is that those who voted Ukip last time were not people who are going | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
to vote for the candidate this time. The problem is that Theresa May has | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
completely made a hash of this whole thing. I am sad to hear that she | :18:17. | :18:20. | |
thinks she is going to remain or to stay on. -- I am stunned. She is | :18:21. | :18:32. | |
well known to be supporting remain. Do you think you should have taken, | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
ie wishing you as a party had taken a different approach given what has | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
happened to the conservative vote? Did you give them an easy ride? I | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
think in practice it properly has been. At the end of the day, we do | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
not have a lot of options. We knew that because of our win last year, | :18:54. | :19:00. | |
having won the referendum, we had a hand in mandate is it to the | :19:01. | :19:03. | |
governments of people who wanted to see that the route were going to | :19:04. | :19:10. | |
vote for the government. It is Theresa May's truly atrocious | :19:11. | :19:12. | |
campaign that has ended up where we are and the fact that she took the | :19:13. | :19:18. | |
gamble or took the decision that despite clearly she must know that | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
she is not personally a great campaigner, she then essentially | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
handed the stick to Jeremy Corbyn who is a great campaigner, if | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
nothing else and said beat me with this. We discussed this earlier but | :19:33. | :19:38. | |
this is the reality. She is not a good campaigner. She messed up this | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
campaign to you. We are the largest party. Yes, but look of the poll | :19:44. | :19:47. | |
lead six weeks ago. It has been squandered. I do not think anyone is | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
saying that this is the conservative's finest hour. I think | :19:53. | :20:02. | |
the Conservatives have been mistaken in thinking that we would mop up the | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
Ukip vote, I think this is a tactical error in this campaign. It | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
has cost us the support another of the country. Both parties can put | :20:14. | :20:25. | |
this, do you think she will remain as Prime Minister? I think she will | :20:26. | :20:32. | |
absolutely. Should she? She will. Sensibly she has got to try and | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
build some sort of consensus with the Parliamentary Conservative | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
Party, we know there are the people who either with not turning up, | :20:40. | :20:49. | |
Harold Wilson led a minority government in the 70s, you can | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
properly get three with about three June 20. You can survive as a | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
government. What you can achieve does come back to her deal-making | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
and her coalition skills within the Conservative Party to find my work | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
be common ground and maybe to reach out to others. I remember those days | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
in the 1970s and I remember the second Tory general election, who | :21:11. | :21:19. | |
governs Britain? Not you, mate, was the answer. | :21:20. | :21:22. | |
More good news. Back in Saint Austell where they have just had a | :21:23. | :21:30. | |
result. Five of the six Cornish seats | :21:31. | :21:34. | |
declared and the latest one was for South East Cornwall, held by the | :21:35. | :21:38. | |
conservative Sheryll Murray and I'm joined by Sheryll Murray now. You | :21:39. | :21:41. | |
have increased your majority again. A good night for the Conservatives | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
in Cornwall but nationally not so good you? I have not had time to | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
reflect on the national picture yet but I am absolutely delighted that | :21:50. | :21:56. | |
we look as though we are going to be returning six Conservative MPs for | :21:57. | :21:59. | |
Cornwall. We have been working in a united way to make sure that | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
Cornwall's message hits home and we fight for the best deal for | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
Cornwall. The campaign message for the Conservatives was strong and | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
stable government going into the Brexit negotiations. That is not | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
what we have got? What we have got in Cornwall, we are now the largest | :22:17. | :22:22. | |
group on Cornwall Council and we have got really good local | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
conservative members of Parliament returned which I think is a big | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
endorsement by the people of Cornwall, but they do want strong | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
and stable representation in Westminster. Sheryll Murray, thank | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
you very much. Sheryll Murray for South East Cornwall. One more cap to | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
be declared, the North Cornwall, we're expecting that very soon. | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
Thank you. Sheryll Murray talking about the prospects of Brexit | :22:49. | :22:54. | |
negotiations under Theresa May and the Conservative government. | :22:55. | :22:59. | |
Labour's position on this has been confused, what would your pitch be | :23:00. | :23:05. | |
if you do end up on some kind of coalition? You have to look at the | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
team that they fielded, Liam Fox, David Davis and Boris Johnson, the | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
people we had in those positions, and the, Kia Starmer -- tarmac | :23:16. | :23:31. | |
Starmer and Emily Thornberry. We need respect for the 48% of people | :23:32. | :23:38. | |
who did not and we need a kind of Brexit that businesses want, it is | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
not just the people who voted remain, which can see is quickly | :23:44. | :23:47. | |
come to some decisions that give certainty that sort of stability | :23:48. | :23:49. | |
that this election was supposed to be about. Next, does this seriously | :23:50. | :23:56. | |
affect the kind of Brexit settlement that is assuming we have a minority | :23:57. | :24:05. | |
government led by Theresa may? If I can go off message, I am not sure | :24:06. | :24:10. | |
what the message is meant to be. I think there is a big question mark | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
over how you go forward with Brexit. This is what Mrs May that herself | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
forward for, wanting her mandate to do Brexit in her way and the result | :24:21. | :24:26. | |
is absolutely not the resounding success, not the mandate that she | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
wanted. I do not know in terms of Brexit what the mandate is. I do not | :24:31. | :24:34. | |
pretend to be a constitutional expert but I suggest a general | :24:35. | :24:37. | |
election Tromso referendum and is there honestly a majority in | :24:38. | :24:44. | |
parliament for Brexit and if there is, what kind of Brexit? You have | :24:45. | :24:51. | |
five seconds. The Treasury say 45 billions a year cost of a hard | :24:52. | :24:52. | |
Brexit. OK, OK, we are out of time. negotiations, I think duty calls and | :24:53. | :25:00. | |
she will stay. Viewers are joining us from around the | :25:01. | :25:02. |