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Their share of the vote was down, reflecting the swing to the big

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parties. Good morning and welcome to this

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Spotlight Election Special. In the next half hour,

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we'll be live in Plymouth where Labour have taken

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a seat from the Conservatives. We'll be live in Cornwall

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where the Lib Dems are pinning any remaining hopes of taking

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a South West seat on the two constituencies there

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still being counted. And we'll have comprehensive

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analysis of the results from our panel of unspun political

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pundits here in the studio with our guests Adrian Lee,

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Nick Bye, John Burnett First, here's Lucie with the very

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latest on the new political map If we can bring up the map. Labour

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in a sea of blue. The Conservative sea of blue has

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a new island this morning. Labour not only held Exeter

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where Ben Bradshaw more than doubled his majority

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but Labour has gained Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport

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as Luke Pollard ousted Conservative Oliver Colvile who has

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been an MP for seven years. To see so many people,

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especially people that vote Labour this time has been

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incredible and there's an awful lot of trust that people have placed

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in me and the campaigns that I mentioned during my election

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campaign about getting better transport, getting a better funding

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deal for the city need to start Now here are the vote

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share figures for Devon. The Conservatives up 5%

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on their 2015 performance. And look at Ukip, their

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vote share down 12.9%, And now Labour, for the first time

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since the '70s, Labour is now

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in second place in Devon with 28.8% of the vote,

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up 10.8% on 2015. Our reporter Scott Bingham has been

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talking to some of those first-time Scott.

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Yes, it was third time lucky for Luke Pollard, the most marginal seat

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in our area in the south west. A slim majority for Oliver Colvile at

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the last election of just 523 seats, Luke Pollard has turned that into a

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lead of 6000. That's more than 53% of the voting share. Pollard has

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stood against Coalville in the last two elections and that narrow

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majority was reduced at the last election as well. Where have these

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rates come from? I am stood here in front of the heart of student land

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and Luke Pollard made it his goal to target the young votes. The degree

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students, that seems to work, according to some of the people we

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spoke to last night. Obviously it means more

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nationally, that's another vote in the pot and that

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but we need to see across the board For Plymouth, I think that's

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a really good thing, you know, for working-class people

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and everyone else. Feeling fantastic because I do

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massively support Jeremy Corbyn, he's brought a lot back to

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the Labour Party that was missing, for the fact it was the Labour Party

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for the socialists, We have also seen Ukip's vote

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collapsed in this constituency and it would seem those rates appear to

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have gone over to Labour. You keep vote also collapsed in neighbouring

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Moorview where conservative Johnny Mercer hurled his seat. -- held his

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seat. Linda, last year during

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Jeremy Corbyn's second leadership campaign you said, "I can't see how

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Jeremy can take us forward. The problem about Jeremy...is he's

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missing some really basic Is it time for you and many other

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people like you in Labour now to eat humble pie? We are a very broad

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church and that is what one is back in Devonport. You are saying he was

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a loser, you were not the only one. And I still have misgivings. I have

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to say he has bought something to political leadership in the country

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and assertiveness rather than aggressiveness which I think people

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really appreciate. As well as what the person that said, that he is a

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voice that is speaking for working-class people in a way that

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they recognise. But what is the way forward the Labour? Particularly if

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Theresa May has made it clear that she wants to hang on, but

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particularly if there is some kind of Labour led government? If I knew

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the answer to that, I doubt people have been trying to answer that all

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night. We do not know, we are going to have to find a way ahead. We will

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have to see if people can rise as Jamie has done in many respects, he

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has led this from being way behind in the poll, 20 plus to being neck

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and neck. -- as Jeremy Hunt is done in many respects. He has leadership

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that has come out in the cause of real action that I have never seen

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in him before. Let's see what happens. John, what is your

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prediction? My prediction is that the party that is in government, the

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Conservative Party has bottled down all the antagonisms, the competitive

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feelings, the animosity, the enmity is and that is going to be thrown

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open for the public to see. The Tory party are now, I believe, going to

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rip themselves to pieces. Is that what we can look forward to in the

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next days? Mrs May, I do not think it was a very good campaign for Mrs

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May, her holes did not run very well,. -- her horse. Should the

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walls run on? She was responsible for this campaign. I can't think

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that a different personality or going through a leadership contest

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all the upset in Westminster and the infighting and other people being

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disappointed, I do not think that would achieve anything. People have

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to accept that the Conservatives... A stunningly good result in Torbay,

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the Conservatives have emerged as the largest party with almost 320

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seat and we know that you can just about get through with that. I do

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not think there is any question... Has it started already? She has been

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called to read consider her position. George Osborne has said

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the campaign has been a catastrophe for Mrs May and the Conservative

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Party. They have been bottled up for at least three years, two years

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since the last election and the referendum particularly. And I think

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that that will be exposed to the public gaze and public scrutiny.

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Absolutely. One of the reasons that Mrs May called the election was

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because she could foresee that she was going to be hostage to those who

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wanted hard Brexit and she wanted a better majority to give her more

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authority and leadership in her own right. I want to move on to the Lib

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Dems. It has hardly been a glorious night for you either.

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It remained unchanged across the south-west and Lucy gives us a bit

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more of the details. Com or change from being dominated

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by the Lib Dems to turning all blue. They were concentrating their heads

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down here in St Ives, they came close, following the recount, Derek

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Thomas held onto it for the Conservatives but only by 312 votes.

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Our political reporter Tamsin Melville is at

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Good morning to you from the count. It does seem to be this story from

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Cornwall this morning, business as usual. We have had bought the six

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counts and all so far have been conservative holes. A story is

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battle for second place. The Lib Dems were hoping for a resurgent

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this time and that has not happened, certainly not so far and it has been

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labour that has maybe gainsay. Into constituencies, they saw a swing of

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20% and more in their favour running the Conservatives now very closely.

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To discuss what might have gone wrong for the Lib Dems I'm joined by

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the candidate for North Cornwall, Dan Rogerson. Did you perhaps

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nationally but what has gone wrong here in Cornwall? A mixed picture.

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We have seen in St Ives are very close result with the Liberal

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Democrat Andrew George nearly took that feedback, it is a great shame

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it did not happen. Yet the declaration of North Cornwall and I

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suspect we will see the usual close fight between Liberal Democrat and

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Conservative there with Labour way back. We have seen in other

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elections in the past types that rise and fall nationally. What

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matters is the reason are under these that, let local councillors,

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sustain a campaign when things are not going so well nationally. I

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think what was the over the coming years is Liberal Democrats in those

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seats, against the Conservatives. He is still waiting for his result. Two

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more to come here, North Cornwall. The story of the night is big gains

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in Cornwall. -- the Labour gains. How long will it take?

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The announcements are not here. Saudis, is being announced as we

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speak. North Cornwall not too far away.

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We will come back to you hopefully when that happens.

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Labour replacing the Lib Dems? That is certainly the case at the moment

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in Devon and that is the first time that has really happened since the

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early 1970s and the beginnings if you like of the then Liberal revival

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in the region. But the interesting thing is what is happening to the

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Ukip vote and many people were suggesting that the Ukip collapse,

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as it proved to be, would simply benefit the Conservatives. But it

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has a differential impact in different constituencies in

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different regions and indeed in different districts. Are you

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surprised by this, Nick? For the Liberals, they are behind the water

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line in the south-west. You were 11. -- you were one one. 30 years ago.

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They have gone to bed in the coalition with the Conservatives may

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have lost some people in the south-west by being on the wrong

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side of the argument in the south-west among certain voters on

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the EU. Sadly, I think it is very difficult now to see the Liberals

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getting going on in the south-west. If you look at the situation in

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Devon, you were a Devon MP. This been unthinkable not that long ago,

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Labour was the second party in rural Devon? Absolutely right. Two or

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three things. I think people are very worried in the country, the

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public is very worried because inflation is going up, wages are

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static, austerity is there, people are deeply concerned so that does

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have an effect, I believe, a gym correct me, as polarising the

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electric and they choose other parties that is easiest to choose,

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the one that is pole position. That is not quite right. They were

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offered a very clear choice on this occasion and Labour stood on the

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platform as anti-public service cuts, and the severity cuts and I

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think the first time since 1970s, I think Dan Rogerson was right in

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saying that you need an underlying layer of local councillors and I

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think with the number of members we have got in the party now, if we can

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go forward and field candidates in the local election and build on

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that, some people will never forgive your party, John, this aborting the

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Tories in some of the policies that have hurt them so much. -- in

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supporting the Tories. I agree but I have not finished. People are

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worried and frightened. There are two offerings from the Conservatives

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and the Labour Party. That polarise the electrode and we fell through

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the middle in that. You had a track record of supporting policies that

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hurt people. If the two main parties go to the left and right, that gives

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them an opportunity? I don't agree with you there. They are worried as

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well. There is a deep concern and worry in the electrode. They want to

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back the party that is going to help them and it is really a Paul Grice

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choice. I do not know what you believe about that. It gives an

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option the innocence in the centre for a party that actually has to

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rebuild from a local base and there was some evidence that this is

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happening in the last county elections at the beginning of May.

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But it is not a long way to go and of course the Liberal Democrat

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decline did not just happen in 2015, it was declining at local level in

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particular before that. The party was in some sense of being hollowed

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out in particular. Dan Rogerson's seed is going to be very

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interesting. I know that has not been declared. Bat Dan Rogerson's

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seat. That is the base which has traditionally served us so well,

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that has been absent in this election. That is what we have held

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onto in Plymouth Sutton. Hard-working, explains councillors

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who were leading the big teams we had out in all the water in

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Plymouth. In Torbay, the Liberals worked incredibly hard. People still

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didn't respond to that. We touched on Ukip briefly.

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Adrian Lee, you've been looking at the differring

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It is where the Ukip vote went. It went to different places in

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different parts of the country. If you look at Newton Abbot, the party

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that benefit appears to have benefited most from Ukip decliner,

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was in fact Labour. If look at Yeovil, the party that benefited

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most there was the Conservatives. The Liberal Democrats went backwards

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in Yeovil to a significant extent. Elsewhere they were really

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flat-lining. It is extremely difficult, I think, to explain

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exactly what has happened to the Ukip vote and it has not simply gone

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to the Conservatives, it has gone to other parties, it has gone in some

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cases to Labour, it has gone in some cases I suspect into nonvoting and

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those photos, the statistics, those routers have been replaced by the

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new younger voters that Linda was talking about.

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Ukip's candidate in Central Devon defected to the Tories

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Tim Matthews said Ukip had become a party of racists and extremists.

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Ukip's former chairman was standing in North Devon,

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despite his failure to take the seat.

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Good morning. What do you make of this result? Because I have got the

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sense that Ukip were not prepared to be sacrificial victims to some

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extent in the interest as Theresa may getting a decent majority to

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pursue Brexit. You have sacrificed yourself to some extent but you have

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not achieved that goal either. No, it's disappointing. We did know that

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we were going to get bad results. There is some good news, the exit

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poll that I had going into the account said we were going to be 14

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points down across the country. It turns out we are only 11 points

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down. This is good news indeed. But my point was... You expected to do

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badly but you thought the reward but that would be Theresa May's majority

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and then the mandate for something like the kind of Brexit you want to

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see? We knew that a lot of our boats, the strong Brexiteers would

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opt to go what they thought was the strongest negotiation position for

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the country but we have been telling the Tories for many years that Ukip

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tarmac to not delinquent Tories say the fact they have gone off in all

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directions is not surprising. If you look at Newton Abbot, the likelihood

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is that those who voted Ukip last time were not people who are going

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to vote for the candidate this time. The problem is that Theresa May has

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completely made a hash of this whole thing. I am sad to hear that she

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thinks she is going to remain or to stay on. -- I am stunned. She is

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well known to be supporting remain. Do you think you should have taken,

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ie wishing you as a party had taken a different approach given what has

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happened to the conservative vote? Did you give them an easy ride? I

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think in practice it properly has been. At the end of the day, we do

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not have a lot of options. We knew that because of our win last year,

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having won the referendum, we had a hand in mandate is it to the

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governments of people who wanted to see that the route were going to

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vote for the government. It is Theresa May's truly atrocious

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campaign that has ended up where we are and the fact that she took the

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gamble or took the decision that despite clearly she must know that

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she is not personally a great campaigner, she then essentially

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handed the stick to Jeremy Corbyn who is a great campaigner, if

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nothing else and said beat me with this. We discussed this earlier but

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this is the reality. She is not a good campaigner. She messed up this

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campaign to you. We are the largest party. Yes, but look of the poll

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lead six weeks ago. It has been squandered. I do not think anyone is

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saying that this is the conservative's finest hour. I think

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the Conservatives have been mistaken in thinking that we would mop up the

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Ukip vote, I think this is a tactical error in this campaign. It

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has cost us the support another of the country. Both parties can put

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this, do you think she will remain as Prime Minister? I think she will

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absolutely. Should she? She will. Sensibly she has got to try and

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build some sort of consensus with the Parliamentary Conservative

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Party, we know there are the people who either with not turning up,

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Harold Wilson led a minority government in the 70s, you can

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properly get three with about three June 20. You can survive as a

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government. What you can achieve does come back to her deal-making

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and her coalition skills within the Conservative Party to find my work

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be common ground and maybe to reach out to others. I remember those days

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in the 1970s and I remember the second Tory general election, who

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governs Britain? Not you, mate, was the answer.

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More good news. Back in Saint Austell where they have just had a

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result. Five of the six Cornish seats

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declared and the latest one was for South East Cornwall, held by the

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conservative Sheryll Murray and I'm joined by Sheryll Murray now. You

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have increased your majority again. A good night for the Conservatives

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in Cornwall but nationally not so good you? I have not had time to

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reflect on the national picture yet but I am absolutely delighted that

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we look as though we are going to be returning six Conservative MPs for

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Cornwall. We have been working in a united way to make sure that

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Cornwall's message hits home and we fight for the best deal for

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Cornwall. The campaign message for the Conservatives was strong and

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stable government going into the Brexit negotiations. That is not

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what we have got? What we have got in Cornwall, we are now the largest

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group on Cornwall Council and we have got really good local

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conservative members of Parliament returned which I think is a big

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endorsement by the people of Cornwall, but they do want strong

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and stable representation in Westminster. Sheryll Murray, thank

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you very much. Sheryll Murray for South East Cornwall. One more cap to

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be declared, the North Cornwall, we're expecting that very soon.

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Thank you. Sheryll Murray talking about the prospects of Brexit

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negotiations under Theresa May and the Conservative government.

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Labour's position on this has been confused, what would your pitch be

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if you do end up on some kind of coalition? You have to look at the

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team that they fielded, Liam Fox, David Davis and Boris Johnson, the

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people we had in those positions, and the, Kia Starmer -- tarmac

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Starmer and Emily Thornberry. We need respect for the 48% of people

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who did not and we need a kind of Brexit that businesses want, it is

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not just the people who voted remain, which can see is quickly

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come to some decisions that give certainty that sort of stability

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that this election was supposed to be about. Next, does this seriously

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affect the kind of Brexit settlement that is assuming we have a minority

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government led by Theresa may? If I can go off message, I am not sure

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what the message is meant to be. I think there is a big question mark

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over how you go forward with Brexit. This is what Mrs May that herself

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forward for, wanting her mandate to do Brexit in her way and the result

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is absolutely not the resounding success, not the mandate that she

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wanted. I do not know in terms of Brexit what the mandate is. I do not

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pretend to be a constitutional expert but I suggest a general

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election Tromso referendum and is there honestly a majority in

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parliament for Brexit and if there is, what kind of Brexit? You have

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five seconds. The Treasury say 45 billions a year cost of a hard

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Brexit. OK, OK, we are out of time. negotiations, I think duty calls and

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she will stay. Viewers are joining us from around the

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