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testing of anti-cancer treatments and levering a real benefit to | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
patients including those with rarer cancers and it is one example of how | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
we can work together. Order! I am pleased to be able to announce to | :00:09. | :00:13. | |
the house that following fair and open competition Her Majesty The | :00:14. | :00:28. | |
Queen has graciously accepted my recommendation for the person to be | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
appointed to the post of Sergeant at Arms as of the 1st of February. He | :00:35. | :00:41. | |
has been the head of front of house and VIP relations at the Ministry of | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
Justice since 2000 and he has also held a number of administrative and | :00:47. | :00:54. | |
security roles in the Department of Constitutional affairs and the | :00:55. | :00:59. | |
Ministry of Justice and the Ministry of Justice since 2001. He is trained | :01:00. | :01:10. | |
in the martial arts. He is a recipient of the British Empire | :01:11. | :01:18. | |
Medal. He will be the first person of a BM M E background to hold the | :01:19. | :01:28. | |
post of Serjeant at Arms. Order! Statement: the Prime Minister. With | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
permission I would like to make a statement on the European Council | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
meeting that took place before Christmas. The council focused on | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
three issues migration terrorism and the UK renegotiation and I I will | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
take each in turn. On migration even in winter there are still many | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
migrants coming to Europe with over three arriving via the eastern | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
Mediterranean route each day. Britain is not part of the Schengen | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
open border arrangements and we will not be joining. We have our own | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
border controls and they apply to everyone attempting to enter the UK | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
and every day border controls help to keep us safe. Let me repeat these | :02:10. | :02:16. | |
controls apply to all including EU citizens and we have stopped on 90 | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
people at our Borders since 20 including six EU national 's who | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
were not allowed to come in. Schengen countries are trying to put | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
in place a pale imitation of what we already have. What they do is a | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
matter for them but it is in our interest to help our European | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
partners secure their external Borders so we have provided more | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
technical expertise to the European Asylum support office than any other | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
European country. It includes practical support with | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
fingerprinting migrants when they arrive and we have focused on the | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
root causes not just the consequences of the migration | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
crisis. We continue to play a leading role in the efforts of the | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
international serious support group to enter the conflict through a | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
political process and we have backed an agreement recently in Morocco | :03:11. | :03:16. | |
that should pave the way for a new, United National government in Libya. | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
We have HMS Enterprise in the Mediterranean to go after people | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
traffickers. We provided one point in humanitarian assistance. We are | :03:27. | :03:35. | |
second only to America. The donor conference that I am hosting next | :03:36. | :03:41. | |
month will help further in raising significant new funding to help | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
refugees in the region this year. They council focused on implementing | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
the previously agreed measures on refugee resettlement. In Britain we | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
said we would resettle 20 Syrian refugees in this parliament and take | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
them directly from the camps. I can say is that as promised many | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
refugees from camps have been resettled here in time for | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
Christmas. These people are now in homes and their children are | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
starting this new year in our schools and they can look forward to | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
building a new life here in Britain. I know that many in this house have | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
called for us to take many more refugees and take part in the EU | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
relocation and settlement schemes but the reality is we have | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
significantly done more than most of our EU partners in this regard. By | :04:32. | :04:37. | |
the time of the December council only 200 and had been re-united in | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
the UK -- EU. We said what we would do and we said | :04:44. | :05:04. | |
we would get on and do it. Turning to terrorism. The latest appalling | :05:05. | :05:11. | |
video from Daesh is a reminder of their brutality and their barbarism. | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
It is desperate stuff from an organisation that hates us not for | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
what we do but for what we are. We are I democratic and multi-faith | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
nation that is built on tolerance and respect for human rights. | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
Britain will never be cowed by terror. We will stand up and defend | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
our values and our way of life. With patience and persistence we will | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
defeat the extremist and eliminate the organisation. The whole house | :05:40. | :05:42. | |
will want to join with me on paying tribute to the British servicemen | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
and women who spend this Christmas and New Year away from their | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
families. In the last month at RAF aircraft have conducted many strikes | :05:52. | :06:03. | |
in Iraq and. Syria. We made important contributions through S | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
strike is Kurdish forces have repelled major Daesh counter attacks | :06:09. | :06:16. | |
in northern Iraq. There have been attacks against oil structure and | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
terrorists near Raqqa. We continue to fly surveillance and | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
reconnaissance missions and provide support to our coalition partners. | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
We have a clear agreement on rules to share passenger name records. It | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
is a vital breakthrough but we still need to go further. The council | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
agreed to take forward urgent proposals on systematic data sharing | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
stepping up our corporation on aviation security and working | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
together to do even more to staff Daesh of money and resources choking | :06:49. | :06:53. | |
off the oil and clamping down on firearms and explosives and stopping | :06:54. | :06:55. | |
them get into the hands of terrorist 's. We said we would do more across | :06:56. | :07:03. | |
Europe to campaign against terrorist propaganda and clamp down on the | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
root of the terrorism that we face. The Daesh threat is a threat to us | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
all and we stand together to defeat it. Returning to the UK | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
re-negotiation, I have set out the areas where Britain is seeking | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
significant and far reaching forms. Britain must not be part of an ever | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
closer union and we want a greater role for national parliaments. | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
Competitiveness, the EU must add to our competitiveness rather than | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
detract from it by cutting regulation is completing the single | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
market. On fairness for countries in and outside the EU zone where the EU | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
must protect the integrity of the single market and ensure that there | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
is no disadvantage, discrimination or additional costs for a country | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
like Britain that is not in the euro and in my view will never join the | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
euro. On migration we need to tackle abuses to the right of free movement | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
and deliver changes that ensure our welfare system is not an artificial | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
draw for people to come to Britain. This is the first time that a has | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
tried to re-its membership of the EU from a standing start. Many doubted | :08:11. | :08:20. | |
it was even possible. We have had a negotiation for several hours with | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
almost every leader contributing and I will be happy to go into detail | :08:25. | :08:27. | |
but these are the key points. There was strong support for Britain to | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
stay in the EU and European leaders are Gamay remarks by saying that | :08:33. | :08:35. | |
Britain is not better in Europe but that Europe would be better with | :08:36. | :08:42. | |
Britain's staying in it. All are prepared to address the points that | :08:43. | :08:48. | |
we have made and it have been raised about all for areas and the most | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
difficult issues were around three movement and welfare but there was a | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
great deal of good and at the end of the discussion they council agreed | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
and I quote directly from the conclusions that we would work | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
closely together to find mutually satisfactory conditions in all of | :09:05. | :09:10. | |
the four areas. It is significant that the solutions are talked about | :09:11. | :09:16. | |
not compromise and these will be legally binding and irreversible. | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
While these areas will require hard work I believe there is now a | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
pathway to an agreement. Later this week I will continue my efforts to | :09:25. | :09:28. | |
secure that agreement with further discussions in Germany and Hungary | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
and I hope that we can reach full full agreement when the council | :09:33. | :09:34. | |
meets next month. What matters is not getting the substance -- is | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
getting the substance right, not the speed of the deal. If we succeed we | :09:40. | :09:45. | |
will succeed in changing the UK relationship with the EU and | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
addressing the concerns that the British people have over our | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
membership. If we cannot then as I have said before, I will nothing | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
out. My intention is that at the conclusion of the re-negotiation the | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
government should reach a clear recommendation and then an agreement | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
will be held. It is in the nature of the referendum that it is the people | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
are not the politicians that decide and as I indicated before Christmas | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
there will be a clear government position which will be open to | :10:15. | :10:17. | |
individual ministers to take a different personal position while | :10:18. | :10:21. | |
remaining part of the government. Ultimately it will be for the | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
British people to decide this country's future by voting in or out | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
of eight reform European Union. It was something we promised and | :10:30. | :10:42. | |
only something which we could deliver. I would like to thank the | :10:43. | :10:49. | |
Prime Minister for his statement. I received a copy of it as short time | :10:50. | :10:57. | |
ago. I would like to wish the Prime Minister and the hosts are very | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
happy New Year and I hope the Prime Minister will not misinterpret the | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
greeting and take it in the spirit it is meant. Last month I travelled | :11:06. | :11:18. | |
to Brussels to meet European leaders to discuss the issues the Prime | :11:19. | :11:24. | |
Minister has raised today. I went a lot. I went that the Prime Minister | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
has botched his negotiations with European ministers and also learnt | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
that many of our European colleagues have a very intuitive understanding | :11:33. | :11:39. | |
of politics. They know the Prime Minister has asked for help so that | :11:40. | :11:45. | |
he can win the referendum he did not want to hold. Does the Prime | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
Minister no accept that his attempts to bludgeon leaders into accepting | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
his reforms have field and he has come right with very little? And can | :11:55. | :12:04. | |
he be surprised that he has failed to work with his European partners | :12:05. | :12:11. | |
and in the European refugee crisis. To deliver change, you need | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
effective and clever diplomacy and make friends. | :12:16. | :12:25. | |
We all value our friends. But the Prime Minister is not interested in | :12:26. | :12:38. | |
that. He is playing politics rather than putting forward the interests | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
of the people of this country. Can he never explained whether the | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
people will have a clear choice in the referendum and will that be | :12:48. | :12:54. | |
expressed? What has he had to see to Lord Heseltine, leaders across | :12:55. | :13:07. | |
Europe can see that they are able off for Conservative Party politics. | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
Does the Prime Minister accept that his bluff has no been called? He | :13:12. | :13:18. | |
wanted to secure more changes within the European Union. He has achieved | :13:19. | :13:25. | |
nothing on that. Does he believe also what experts have said, the | :13:26. | :13:30. | |
change in migrant benefits, are likely to not only be ineffective | :13:31. | :13:37. | |
but discriminatory and unfair and could be legally challenged? Could | :13:38. | :13:41. | |
he know confirm he is abandoning these plans altogether? Could he | :13:42. | :13:46. | |
also confirmed that he has dropped his disgraceful plans to weaken | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
workers protection in this country, compared to protection offered | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
another European countries? Essentially, the Prime Minister | :13:58. | :13:59. | |
proposals are a distraction. The real issue is about delivering a | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
more cohesive and more democratic and progress of Europe that promote | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
security, protection for workers, delivers investment, produces | :14:10. | :14:16. | |
productive economies and sustained growth. That is why in the upcoming | :14:17. | :14:24. | |
referendum, we will be ensuring to ensure these things are about any | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
progressive European agenda. Kelly as can more about the refugee crisis | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
and what he is doing to help this growing crisis? I want to pick them | :14:34. | :14:39. | |
recognise thanks to the Royal Navy another service personnel working in | :14:40. | :14:42. | |
the Mediterranean trying to save lives, because they have done a | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
great job and seized a large number of people who were desperately | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
trying to cross the Mediterranean to gain a place of safety. Could I ask | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
him what funding he is offering to assist in this collective effort. It | :14:58. | :15:04. | |
is a very serious crisis in many countries and many countries for | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
many in Europe, as well as the situation in France at the present | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
time. On the question of Soviet, could he confirmed that Britain is | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
fully part and signed up for negotiated political process to try | :15:21. | :15:25. | |
and bring about a ceasefire in the Serbian civil war and Izzy in a | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
position to update and anything to do with that quote? -- Syrian. Could | :15:30. | :15:44. | |
he also tell us about the status of all refugees and offer support. The | :15:45. | :15:47. | |
government is not going far enough to help those in need. He has could | :15:48. | :15:57. | |
he commit to 20,000 refugees coming in in the next two years, rather | :15:58. | :16:05. | |
than the next five? Could he also taken unaccompanied children, who | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
are in a desperate position. It is making more difficult for us to work | :16:10. | :16:13. | |
with our European partners when we do not do this. He is putting the | :16:14. | :16:19. | |
politics of as one party across those of the national interest. Will | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
he join me in seeking a more progressive union across Europe. One | :16:25. | :16:30. | |
that delivers on welfare for our workers rather than the agenda he is | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
bidding for work today? Let me wish the right honourable gentleman a | :16:37. | :16:45. | |
very happy New Year. Can I apologise for interrupting the longest | :16:46. | :16:51. | |
reshuffle in her study. I have watched the entire run of Star Wars | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
movies but we do not know who has been taken over to the dark side. | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
There is no sign of a Rebel Alliance emerging either. He had the temerity | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
to see this as a referendum I did not want. This is a referendum | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
likely to the British people in our manifesto. He has got the Foreign | :17:11. | :17:20. | |
Secretary he does not want. He asked a number of questions. Like me and | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
them. Will the government make a clear recommendation? Yes, we roll. | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
He asked whether the national parliaments measures are still in | :17:31. | :17:39. | |
place? Yes, the hour. They had the warm reception from many countries. | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
I said I am very happy to look at other proposals but I will not take | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
mine of the proposal until I see something equally effective come | :17:50. | :17:52. | |
forward. I would note that in the last election, it was Labour policy | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
to ask people coming to this country to live here and worked here for | :17:57. | :17:59. | |
several years before getting benefits. You can all call out about | :18:00. | :18:06. | |
what a great policy was to be abandoned by the new leader. You | :18:07. | :18:13. | |
have all worked out you have an albatross at the head of your party. | :18:14. | :18:30. | |
He asked about refugees. He is right to please the Royal Navy for the | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
work the dead. This is underfunded. We believe the European Union can do | :18:36. | :18:41. | |
more. It has a generous budget to which we are a significant | :18:42. | :18:44. | |
contributor. In all these conversations, we asked the European | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
Union to use its existing budget, knowing that we have already made a | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
huge contribution it with budget. The only other country that was as | :18:54. | :19:04. | |
generous as ours to ease this crisis. We have given ?1.2 billion. | :19:05. | :19:11. | |
We are one of the leading players in the process. More meetings are | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
necessary to bring about the ceasefire and political discussion | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
and talks which are necessary. I will keep the who's updated. He | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
asked about whether we would take more migrants. I think 20,000 is the | :19:29. | :19:34. | |
rate number. I would stress again, we are delivering what we said we | :19:35. | :19:39. | |
would do. This is in stark contrast to many policies of other countries. | :19:40. | :19:46. | |
He mentioned about the 3000 orphans. There are problems. We can look at | :19:47. | :19:53. | |
helping more people. But we are keen not to remove people from their | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
wider family, so it is not just about people who have maybe lost the | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
appearance. He then said we were isolated in Europe with regard to | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
the debate on Syria. We are leading the debate. When other prime | :20:09. | :20:16. | |
ministers and presidents when asked about terrorism or migration or | :20:17. | :20:23. | |
British negotiations, they were all saying, the other question, what on | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
offers happen to the British Labour Party? Will the Prime Minister | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
obtain the full British opt out from the ever closer union, which has | :20:35. | :20:46. | |
been the principal demand of Europe, who saw it as the perceived threat. | :20:47. | :20:53. | |
Note that many people are taking an unaccustomed interest in benefit | :20:54. | :20:59. | |
rules, will he confirm that his benefits -- proposals are | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
stimulating discussions in other countries. They are trying to find a | :21:06. | :21:17. | |
solution which will not prevent people legally coming here in a wave | :21:18. | :21:24. | |
which helps the British economy? The ever closer union does matter. It is | :21:25. | :21:32. | |
not just symbolic. It gets used in European law and has driven | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
something of a ratchet through the European Union. He is right about | :21:38. | :21:45. | |
this. It is a controversial issue in Europe. Many other countries she our | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
concerns. Many of the countries where people are leaving are also | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
concerned, with so many young people leaving. Britain is benefited hugely | :21:55. | :22:01. | |
from migration and we would support it, but it is the extra artificial | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
drop that our benefit system brings which needs to be addressed. It is | :22:07. | :22:15. | |
our first day back in Parliament, so the first day to see our hearts go | :22:16. | :22:21. | |
out to the many people throughout the country who are suffering from | :22:22. | :22:29. | |
the ongoing problems of flooding, with regard to the houses and | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
businesses. We should put our appreciation for the response of the | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
emergency services then incredibly difficult circumstances. The biggest | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
challenge is not negotiations of the Prime Minister and his position with | :22:44. | :22:52. | |
regard to this split which was displayed by the Swedish Prime | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
Minister is bizarre. It is the instability in the Middle East and | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
the threat of terrorism. The European Union member states have | :23:02. | :23:09. | |
opt outs with regard to immigration. Two of these are part of the | :23:10. | :23:17. | |
European refugee programme. Given me overwhelmingly warm welcome and | :23:18. | :23:19. | |
positive humanitarian response in the UK to people affected by Syria | :23:20. | :23:29. | |
the conflict, with the Prime Minister reconsider his position? | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
Would he at least help more refugee children just as they did with | :23:33. | :23:40. | |
Jewish children in the past. With regard to the instability in the | :23:41. | :23:44. | |
Middle East, how is he going to step up support for the Vienna process | :23:45. | :23:51. | |
and look for a ceasefire Syria in and is he worried about the | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
increasing tensions between Saudi Arabia and Iran? The resume, who | :23:56. | :24:05. | |
shoot and crucify those they disagree with, is it not time for | :24:06. | :24:10. | |
concrete action? On European reform, three of the four Prime Minister 's | :24:11. | :24:17. | |
demands were so limited the work so uncontentious. When UK citizens | :24:18. | :24:24. | |
working with them -- European citizens without working within the | :24:25. | :24:27. | |
United Kingdom, Friday we not hear about the positive contribution they | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
have made in terms of the contribution and via tax | :24:34. | :24:39. | |
contribution to the United Kingdom? It massively agrees any abuses of | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
the system. Will he finally, because he has made many opportunities to do | :24:45. | :24:51. | |
this, if Scotland remains in the European Union, it will stay. The | :24:52. | :25:00. | |
public at home will hear the noise from the Conservative benches. They | :25:01. | :25:06. | |
want to know if they are going to be taking note of the European Union | :25:07. | :25:13. | |
against the will. Taking his last point, Scotland and a referendum on | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
whether to remain part of the United Kingdom. The leader -- the First | :25:18. | :25:24. | |
Minister, knowing member of Parliament, signed with needy and | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
the agreement, which said that both sides would respect the author | :25:28. | :25:34. | |
referendum. That is the only answer he needs. I also paid tribute to the | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
emergency services for the incredible work they have done | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
during the recent flooding. Our hearts go out to those who have | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
homes, businesses and shops flooded. Also pay tribute to the amazing | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
spirit of the British people who have come together at Christmas | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
time, giving up huge sacrifice to help each other. It is remarkable | :25:59. | :26:00. | |
what communities have done. We believe our resettlement | :26:01. | :26:11. | |
programme is better run by ourselves. We have done it better | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
and quickly brought more people into Britain and other countries have | :26:16. | :26:18. | |
been able to resettle out of Syria and we have wrought in our own | :26:19. | :26:24. | |
safeguarding check on those people. The point being made about three of | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
the four things that we are asking for being under is simply not true. | :26:30. | :26:35. | |
I would encourage him take more time to talk to European colleagues about | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
how difficult these things are to achieve. On the issue of the Vienna | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
process, if we have a very clear view that we do not support the | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
death penalty where ever it takes place Saudi Arabia included we have | :26:48. | :26:52. | |
to find a way to get Iran and Saudi Arabia into the room at the same | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
time to negotiate what will happen in terms of a transition. I think we | :26:58. | :27:03. | |
have to be clear that is our greatest priority dealing with the | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
Syrian crisis is the source of so much of the terror that we face and | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
the crisis in Europe has to be top of mind. Does the Prime Minister | :27:13. | :27:23. | |
agree that the success of his re-negotiation and attention from | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
issues of greater substance such as issues for Britain's place in the | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
world whether we stay or leave and the cost of benefits as part of a | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
free EU labour market were introduction of a Living Wage will | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
dwarf the effect of any benefited title manse as a draw for people | :27:42. | :27:47. | |
into the United Kingdom. I would say to my honourable friend that once | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
the negotiation is completed people have to asked the big question of | :27:52. | :27:53. | |
whether Britain is better off inside or outside a reformed European | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
Union. The question of whether we are safer or more prosperous I | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
believe the re-negotiation will make a difference. There is also the | :28:03. | :28:09. | |
issue of migration. People are asking the bigger question about the | :28:10. | :28:15. | |
position of Britain in Europe and I am making sure that the choice that | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
people wait -- faces not between the status quo and leaving altogether | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
between an important amendment to the status quo and it is important | :28:24. | :28:29. | |
that we get it right. Before Christmas I met 11 year and | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
12-year-old to living in the jungle in Calais and they are similar ages | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
to my children and to his children but they are alone and separated | :28:39. | :28:44. | |
from their parents and folder to exploitation as well as the cold and | :28:45. | :28:48. | |
still. The longer he looks at the proposal to help three children the | :28:49. | :28:54. | |
more disappear. Can I urge urge him that this proposal has cross-party | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
support to agree to to work with Save The Children on a plan for | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
Britain to help 3000 and children from across Europe. Just agree to | :29:04. | :29:09. | |
the principle today. We are going to consider this in a very proper way | :29:10. | :29:13. | |
during the Syria debate. There are different views amongst the NGOs | :29:14. | :29:18. | |
about whether this is the right approach to take. In terms of people | :29:19. | :29:24. | |
at Calais we are very clear that we will do everything we can to help | :29:25. | :29:30. | |
the French were border security and at the end of the day people do not | :29:31. | :29:36. | |
have the right to try and break into Britain against our rules and those | :29:37. | :29:42. | |
people in Calais showed the properly processed by the French and dealt | :29:43. | :29:50. | |
with by the French. My right honourable friend has just stated | :29:51. | :29:54. | |
that his package would require changes that are legally binding and | :29:55. | :30:00. | |
irreversible. As there is no treaty change on offer or what grounds can | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
my right honourable friend legitimately and honestly contend | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
that an international agreement registered at the UN would be | :30:09. | :30:13. | |
legally binding and irreversible, and on which voters which is what | :30:14. | :30:18. | |
matters, could absolutely rely when they cast their votes? Will it be a | :30:19. | :30:26. | |
cast-iron guarantee? Before countries have voted a referenda and | :30:27. | :30:30. | |
we have voted in this house on treaty proposals before they are | :30:31. | :30:35. | |
adopted and implemented by every country country and I have said that | :30:36. | :30:39. | |
what we need is changes that are legally binding and irreversible and | :30:40. | :30:44. | |
those are the changes that I seek. The Prime Minister said that he will | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
do nothing out. If he loses this referendum will he resigned? This | :30:49. | :30:55. | |
referendum is the government policy and the country will decide whether | :30:56. | :31:00. | |
we stay in the European Union or leave the European Union. What I am | :31:01. | :31:04. | |
doing is giving the country the very best choice that can be by an | :31:05. | :31:09. | |
amendment are vital amendment to the status quo that we face but in the | :31:10. | :31:12. | |
end it will be the choice of Britain. Will the council discuss | :31:13. | :31:19. | |
how free societies with free media should react to terrorist | :31:20. | :31:24. | |
propaganda. The latest Daesh atrocity video seems to feature a | :31:25. | :31:30. | |
well-known British extremist and a brainwashed child. Does the Prime | :31:31. | :31:34. | |
Minister agree with the that once the broadcast media seem to have | :31:35. | :31:39. | |
handled this material with appropriate restraint some of the | :31:40. | :31:43. | |
press in its big Tory coverage has been playing into the hands of the | :31:44. | :31:50. | |
terrorist propagandists? First of all, in terms of what Britain is | :31:51. | :31:54. | |
doing in the E you to counter terrorist propaganda yes we have | :31:55. | :31:58. | |
taken the expertise we have built up here and we are sharing it with | :31:59. | :32:02. | |
other European countries as we sat up some new organisations. I think | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
it is very important to win this battle of ideas and in some ways it | :32:08. | :32:11. | |
is like a battle of ideas as we faced in the cold War. I am not sure | :32:12. | :32:15. | |
I go all the way with him about what he said about television or | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
newspapers. Television have been responsible but I do not think it | :32:21. | :32:23. | |
would be right to have a blanket ban on showing any parts of these | :32:24. | :32:27. | |
videos. Shoving a part of these videos and how ghastly and brutal | :32:28. | :32:33. | |
the organisation is in the way it is using children reminds everybody not | :32:34. | :32:38. | |
least those who might be tempted by this radical organisation just what | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
are sick organisation it is. On the whole the media have been fairly | :32:43. | :32:46. | |
responsible about it and I think it is much better to have that form of | :32:47. | :32:49. | |
self restraint rather than anything else. The Prime Minister in his | :32:50. | :32:56. | |
statement said that in relation to Europe and non-euro countries he was | :32:57. | :33:00. | |
looking for node disadvantage or discrimination or additional cost. | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
That is a pretty low bar for ambition. Should he not be looking | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
for a quality and parity between euro countries and non-euro | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
countries and non-euro countries? If you have non-discrimination and no | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
disadvantage and no cost ' gives you the comparison that you seek I take | :33:19. | :33:25. | |
people back to the summer away euro zone countries used in Eurozone bond | :33:26. | :33:31. | |
to buy Greece to which we were a contributor. If people think this | :33:32. | :33:35. | |
does not matter it absolutely does matter. We must have these | :33:36. | :33:40. | |
principles clearly written down and implemented. What treaty and other | :33:41. | :33:46. | |
changes does the United Kingdom need so that the Prime Minister can | :33:47. | :33:49. | |
implement is extremely popular policy of cutting migration by more | :33:50. | :33:55. | |
than two what we need to do is address migration from within the | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
European Union and outside the European Union. If we look at the | :34:01. | :34:04. | |
figures it is about half coming from each. My view is that I do not want | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
us to get out of the idea of free movement. British citizens benefit | :34:10. | :34:13. | |
from being able to live and work and retire into other European countries | :34:14. | :34:16. | |
we should be able to do summing about the artificial draw that our | :34:17. | :34:20. | |
benefits system provides that is now widely recognised in Europe Europe. | :34:21. | :34:31. | |
We have to take further steps. The Prime Minister has indicated that | :34:32. | :34:34. | |
the nation must not be part of an ever closer union. At some point | :34:35. | :34:39. | |
shortly we will agree the date for people to vote on this issue. What | :34:40. | :34:43. | |
guarantee can he give that if the people were to accept his promise | :34:44. | :34:47. | |
and a that we would never, ever be part of the closer union in Europe | :34:48. | :34:54. | |
that subsequent to that, if they accepted his promise, that Europe | :34:55. | :34:57. | |
would not undermine that and eventually agree to a closer union | :34:58. | :35:02. | |
that he has promised we would not be part of and that people might accept | :35:03. | :35:08. | |
that is a very good question. I am seeking a legally binding and | :35:09. | :35:11. | |
irreversible change that carbs people out of an ever closer union. | :35:12. | :35:16. | |
The way I explain it to my European colleagues is that we do not all | :35:17. | :35:19. | |
want the same destination. There are some countries in Europe that do see | :35:20. | :35:23. | |
an ever closer union but Britain is not one of them. We want to be there | :35:24. | :35:28. | |
for trade and cooperation. There are a lot of areas where we do share our | :35:29. | :35:33. | |
resources and ideas and even our sovereignty sometimes to get things | :35:34. | :35:41. | |
done that we need we do not want to be part of an ever closer union and | :35:42. | :35:44. | |
that should be clearly set out and legally binding and irreversible. I | :35:45. | :35:46. | |
completely agree with my right honourable friend am at that point. | :35:47. | :35:54. | |
The European Court has reference European Union 50 times since 19. | :35:55. | :36:04. | |
How will we accept this if we are not excluded from judgments clearly | :36:05. | :36:10. | |
if you have a legally binding and irreversible is suggestion that | :36:11. | :36:14. | |
Britain is not part of an ever closer union and the courts cannot | :36:15. | :36:16. | |
use that to provide a ratchet against Britain in terms of future | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
court judgments. It is very important. It is a symbol and I | :36:22. | :36:26. | |
would accept it is a symbol. Symbols matter in politics politics is full | :36:27. | :36:30. | |
of symbols. The symbol of being outside this ever closer union | :36:31. | :36:33. | |
speaks to the British desire that we join the Common market and not a | :36:34. | :36:38. | |
political union. It has a practical application as we have set out. | :36:39. | :36:44. | |
Given that the dire terrorists are up responsible for the latest | :36:45. | :36:49. | |
disgusting video and cold-blooded murders in Syria and they jumped | :36:50. | :36:58. | |
bail in Britain, should we be claiming control? The experts have | :36:59. | :37:04. | |
said our controls are every bit as powerful as those that they | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
replaced. The control orders were increasingly knocked down in court | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
decision after court decision so it is right if you listen to the | :37:13. | :37:15. | |
experts in the security services or the police they are content with the | :37:16. | :37:22. | |
approach that we have. Given that the Prime Minister has | :37:23. | :37:25. | |
optimistically shared with us is hoped that he can reach full | :37:26. | :37:28. | |
agreement when the council meets at the end of the month. With the Prime | :37:29. | :37:32. | |
Minister also like to share with us on his forward planning what states | :37:33. | :37:36. | |
he is considering for the referendum. I think we would all | :37:37. | :37:42. | |
like to know. I would love to fill in my right honourable friend's | :37:43. | :37:46. | |
diary so I know when it is happening. I cannot guarantee we | :37:47. | :37:49. | |
will have an agreement in February and what they council agreed is that | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
we would try to reach agreement in February on all for issues so that | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
is the eighth. If it is possible that I am keen to get on and hold a | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
referendum. We should not do it precipitately and I have looked at | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
previous precedents and I know that when Labour held a referendum in 19 | :38:07. | :38:11. | |
there was only one month between the completion of the legislation and | :38:12. | :38:14. | |
the and I do not think think that is enough. When we had the referendum | :38:15. | :38:20. | |
on the alternative vote I think it was less than three months and I do | :38:21. | :38:23. | |
not think that was enough so I think we should be looking for a period | :38:24. | :38:27. | |
longer than that. By the time we get to the end of the referendum | :38:28. | :38:30. | |
campaign I think everyone will have had enough of the subject. The Prime | :38:31. | :38:37. | |
Minister made only one very brief mention of the principle of free | :38:38. | :38:41. | |
movement in the original statement. Has he come abandoned negotiations | :38:42. | :38:45. | |
on free movement or is it still a table table? If it is still on the | :38:46. | :38:51. | |
table what changes is he looking for? People in European countries | :38:52. | :38:59. | |
can travel to different countries and live and work in those countries | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
and retire and that is a principle that I support. Where we have | :39:04. | :39:09. | |
goblins is to areas. One is the abuse of free movement where people | :39:10. | :39:12. | |
have used the free movement legislation to bring criminals to | :39:13. | :39:18. | |
the United Kingdom or take part in immigration practices that are | :39:19. | :39:21. | |
against our rules and those abuses need to be dealt with. Our welfare | :39:22. | :39:27. | |
system has provided an unnatural draw to the UK and we need to | :39:28. | :39:32. | |
further control immigration inside the EU are addressing that problem. | :39:33. | :39:40. | |
Could we just pause a moment to remember that it is only because | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
this Prime Minister is in place and backed by all of us that we have | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
this referendum at all. When my right honourable friend was having | :39:49. | :39:53. | |
discussions with his colleagues, was there any recognition that if any of | :39:54. | :39:56. | |
us turned up in Warsaw we would not be entitled to benefits for years | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
because they had a contributory system and the E was about free | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
movement for workers, not benefit seekers. Is there any thought about | :40:06. | :40:13. | |
us moving to a contributory system? This is a very good point. One of | :40:14. | :40:16. | |
the reasons that this problem arises is because we have a system to which | :40:17. | :40:22. | |
there is immediate access because if you live in some other European | :40:23. | :40:26. | |
countries you would have to pay in and contribute four many years | :40:27. | :40:30. | |
before getting your benefits. I am open to all sorts of suggestions | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
including the one that he made. I think we really do need to achieve | :40:35. | :40:38. | |
something that cuts the draw of migrants to Britain through the | :40:39. | :40:40. | |
welfare changes that I have set out. You feel about terrorism then the | :40:41. | :41:03. | |
Middle East. We forget about the atrocities in Northern Ireland. | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
Today is the 40th anniversary of the massacre in which ten Protestants | :41:08. | :41:10. | |
were massacred because of their religion. Those responsible fled | :41:11. | :41:20. | |
across the border into the Republic of Ireland. He is right to make the | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
point that many victims of terrorism, many families who lost | :41:26. | :41:32. | |
loved ones in Ireland. There are still a terrorist campaign in part | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
of the United Kingdom and we need to pay tribute to the police and | :41:38. | :41:40. | |
security services who work hard to prevent that. It is important that | :41:41. | :41:46. | |
when over our borders are, we can police them effectively to stop | :41:47. | :41:54. | |
criminals and terrorists. The Conservative Party manifesto said we | :41:55. | :42:01. | |
will insist that European Union Reagan to want to claim tax credits | :42:02. | :42:06. | |
and Child benefits must love here for a minimum of four years, while I | :42:07. | :42:13. | |
am clear I will be voting to leave the European Union when the | :42:14. | :42:18. | |
referendum comes, there are many of my constituents waiting to see the | :42:19. | :42:26. | |
outcome of the renegotiation. I would be great for my right | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
honourable friend could tell is that we are still insisting on that or is | :42:32. | :42:37. | |
it simply a basis for negotiation? I very much stand by what we put in | :42:38. | :42:41. | |
the manifesto. The issues we are renewal were cheating are clearly | :42:42. | :42:48. | |
set up. We need to go over in each of these areas. We are quite right | :42:49. | :42:57. | |
to have a free vote, as Harold Wilson did likewise in 1975. This is | :42:58. | :43:06. | |
all about trust. Why should the British people trust anything he | :43:07. | :43:10. | |
brings about dealing with the European union, as they did not have | :43:11. | :43:18. | |
a proper worked out treaty change? I think people can see this is a | :43:19. | :43:26. | |
process in which they can trust. We promised the referendum and promised | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
the renegotiation. That is well on course. We said we would cut the | :43:31. | :43:35. | |
European Union budget. No one believes does, but be dead. We said | :43:36. | :43:41. | |
we would bring back the biggest amount of power since Britain joined | :43:42. | :43:44. | |
the European Union and we did that. We have a track record, but in the | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
end, it will be the British people who make the decision about where | :43:50. | :44:00. | |
our future should live. It is sadly clear that forces which heat our | :44:01. | :44:04. | |
democracy are amassing in a larger number of countries. The ability of | :44:05. | :44:14. | |
democratic countries to take measures on a daily basis to fight | :44:15. | :44:20. | |
against terrorism is a key contribution to helping British | :44:21. | :44:24. | |
citizens remain safe on the street. My honourable friend is absolutely | :44:25. | :44:28. | |
right. And a lot of the debates about Europe we have heard in the | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
last couple of decades, most of them are focused on economic questions. | :44:33. | :44:38. | |
No, a lot is focused rightly on security. While there are many | :44:39. | :44:43. | |
differences in the week border controls and the exchange of | :44:44. | :44:46. | |
information works, there is no doubt we will doubt -- benefit greatly | :44:47. | :44:54. | |
from the new light legislation. It tells you where the passengers | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
bought the ticket, really have the credit card was used, and this is of | :44:59. | :45:08. | |
vital information Bridge. As letting these terrorists get into our | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
country. The security argument is going to be absolutely crucial with | :45:13. | :45:19. | |
regard to our future. Many of those who argued for us to leave the | :45:20. | :45:24. | |
European Union suggest we can be part of the single market in spite | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
of leaving, without having to abide by the negotiations that go with | :45:30. | :45:33. | |
that. Can I ask the Prime Minister whether he knows of any known | :45:34. | :45:38. | |
European Union members who enjoy free trade in a single market but | :45:39. | :45:41. | |
are not part of the free movement that comes with it? The honourable | :45:42. | :45:48. | |
gentleman makes an important part, but my argument is not going to be | :45:49. | :45:52. | |
that Britain cannot succeed out with the European Union. Of course we | :45:53. | :45:57. | |
can. We are the world's fifth largest economy. The argument is | :45:58. | :46:01. | |
going to be how are we more secure and prosperous within the European | :46:02. | :46:07. | |
Union a roadside? To answer the question, and it did when asked, if | :46:08. | :46:13. | |
you look at countries like Iceland and Norway, they have to be all the | :46:14. | :46:17. | |
rules of the single market, including all the free movement | :46:18. | :46:21. | |
rules on people, without having any say on what the rules are. The fewer | :46:22. | :46:29. | |
as democracy by fights because the rules come through from Brussels. It | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
will be from the campaign is responsible to make the arguments | :46:36. | :46:38. | |
about what life would be like oak with the European Union and that is | :46:39. | :46:47. | |
what they will have to answer. Yesterday, grassroots boat was | :46:48. | :46:50. | |
launched and politicians from different parties working together | :46:51. | :46:55. | |
at grassroots level no to come out of the European Union. With the | :46:56. | :47:01. | |
Prime Minister say that ministers are free to campaign? With the Prime | :47:02. | :47:06. | |
Minister still say there are significant difficulties and he may | :47:07. | :47:12. | |
eventually recommend not staying in the European Union, witty considered | :47:13. | :47:19. | |
joining up? I will carefully look at what happens when you pass go. We | :47:20. | :47:28. | |
are getting closer to an agreement on Britain's negotiation and at that | :47:29. | :47:35. | |
point, of course, as I have said, ministers will have a clear | :47:36. | :47:41. | |
recommendation and ministers will be able to campaign on different sides | :47:42. | :47:44. | |
regardless of it clear recommendation but there needs to | :47:45. | :47:48. | |
happen after negotiations take place. Members on all sides of the | :47:49. | :47:53. | |
house, the public and business want to know what the renegotiation | :47:54. | :47:59. | |
tabbing to. We want to go for we bring back, but in the end, it will | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
not be any of us, it will be the people of Britain who decide. It is | :48:04. | :48:13. | |
not only a number of unions who are urging the Minister to give the | :48:14. | :48:24. | |
positive with regard to the unaccompanied refugee children. Some | :48:25. | :48:31. | |
of them already have relatives in the United Kingdom. Would he not be | :48:32. | :48:39. | |
in a stronger position if he has already established that? We have | :48:40. | :48:45. | |
done more than any other country in with the United States with regard | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
to the funding of the refugee crisis. As well as the 20,000 | :48:50. | :48:54. | |
pledge, we are in the process of implementing it in very good order. | :48:55. | :48:59. | |
I said we will look very closely at the issue of orphans. There are | :49:00. | :49:06. | |
different views about how best to handle this issue. We want to make | :49:07. | :49:11. | |
sure is genuinely helpful for the people involved. We know the | :49:12. | :49:18. | |
families we are taking note of the refugee camps because we can fit | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
them. We want to help the most vulnerable. Of course, the | :49:23. | :49:32. | |
referendum will revolve around the political and economic strength of | :49:33. | :49:34. | |
the European Union will bring, but in terms of the renegotiation, does | :49:35. | :49:43. | |
he agree that our competitiveness will depend on the free trade | :49:44. | :49:55. | |
opportunities which the European Union represents? If we were not in | :49:56. | :49:58. | |
the single worker we would not be able to argue for the trade deals or | :49:59. | :50:09. | |
the completion of the single market services energy legislation. The | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
calculations people will have to make is, I be better off in the | :50:13. | :50:16. | |
single market making a contribution and a sea on its future, but only | :50:17. | :50:25. | |
better on the outside having no see. That is the argument which needs to | :50:26. | :50:32. | |
take place. The Prime Minister clearly needs to negotiate a good | :50:33. | :50:38. | |
deal with our European Prime Minister and does not want to be the | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
British Prime Minister who takes it out of the European union. I then as | :50:44. | :50:47. | |
he suspended the elected responsibility adviser not possible | :50:48. | :50:50. | |
for him to persuade his one ministers on an issue which is so | :50:51. | :50:56. | |
vital to our national interest? The entire government is signed up to | :50:57. | :50:59. | |
the position of holding a referendum and having it legal renegotiation, a | :51:00. | :51:06. | |
successful one and holding a referendum and everyone backs that. | :51:07. | :51:12. | |
Clearly, there are people who have long-standing views about the | :51:13. | :51:14. | |
European issue and it has never been my intention to stronger people into | :51:15. | :51:22. | |
voting for a position they do not agree with. So, I think this is the | :51:23. | :51:27. | |
right approach. It does not come practice until a deal is done | :51:28. | :51:32. | |
because we do not know what this renegotiation will be I hope it | :51:33. | :51:39. | |
could take considerably longer. When you are negotiating with 27 other | :51:40. | :51:44. | |
countries, anything can happen. But I think talk from the opposite | :51:45. | :51:53. | |
benches about party unity is a bit rich. He has berated us about giving | :51:54. | :52:00. | |
up our rebate and getting nothing in return. Why did he not as thorough | :52:01. | :52:07. | |
rebate to be reinstated? Is it because he does not think we should | :52:08. | :52:19. | |
have the rebate back or is it just that purely that he was worried that | :52:20. | :52:23. | |
it may not give him something to try off about? I would make the point | :52:24. | :52:32. | |
that we negotiated the cut in the budget, but that cut across seven | :52:33. | :52:37. | |
years of what is known as the European Union financial | :52:38. | :52:42. | |
perspective. We also protected our rebate, which is immensely powerful | :52:43. | :52:48. | |
and saves British taxpayers an enormous amount of money. When you | :52:49. | :52:55. | |
are sitting round a table with $27 and see at showing that is not the | :52:56. | :53:00. | |
case. I am not claiming elder statesmanship. I would argue that | :53:01. | :53:21. | |
the NBC gauge is what we have achieved. Hundreds of my | :53:22. | :53:24. | |
constituents had a terrible Christmas because of the terrible | :53:25. | :53:29. | |
flooding in the area. Councils will have to make up the infrastructure | :53:30. | :53:40. | |
costs. It would be unforgivable to boot posturing on Europe ahead of | :53:41. | :53:45. | |
the national interest. When is the dominant going to apply the | :53:46. | :53:53. | |
solidarity here? Firstly, his constituents have my sympathy and we | :53:54. | :53:57. | |
will do everything we can to make sure his council is fully reimbursed | :53:58. | :54:02. | |
for all the emergency measures they have to take. We've also put in the | :54:03. | :54:07. | |
flood prevention measures. Ray thought very carefully at this | :54:08. | :54:11. | |
question of the European Union funding. We were previously at in | :54:12. | :54:17. | |
2013 and it takes a long time to get hold of any money, it is uncertain | :54:18. | :54:21. | |
when you will get and you end up paying for it in many ways, as well. | :54:22. | :54:26. | |
It is quicker and better to give people the help they need from our | :54:27. | :54:34. | |
own resources. Beyond the talks which my right honourable friend is | :54:35. | :54:47. | |
co-hosting next month, what other discussions has government and the | :54:48. | :54:51. | |
other European Union governments having with functioning government | :54:52. | :54:57. | |
around the Mediterranean to inhibit refugees who disguise themselves as | :54:58. | :55:08. | |
tourists from other countries. My right honourable friend is right to | :55:09. | :55:12. | |
raise this issue, which is why there is a defence cooperation being | :55:13. | :55:19. | |
undertaken in the Mediterranean, in which we are playing a leading | :55:20. | :55:24. | |
product, which is to go after the people smugglers and when that is | :55:25. | :55:29. | |
the proper government in Libya, we need a proper agreement that we can | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
stop boats and tumble back really think these people should be | :55:35. | :55:42. | |
properly dealt with in Libya, to try and break this link between getting | :55:43. | :55:46. | |
settlement from getting in a boat in Libya. | :55:47. | :55:51. | |
Can I commend the Prime Minister for demonstrating to the Leader of the | :55:52. | :55:57. | |
Opposition that he is not the only one leading a hopelessly divided | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
Cabinet. Can he tell us that peek thinks the majority of his Cabinet | :56:02. | :56:04. | |
colleagues will join him in the remainder of the Euro campaign? The | :56:05. | :56:11. | |
government is behind the strategy of holding a re-negotiation of having a | :56:12. | :56:15. | |
referendum and we have discussed repeatedly what those issues that | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
need to be renegotiated R. It is interesting that across the other | :56:21. | :56:24. | |
side of the House of Commons, there was not one single thing they want | :56:25. | :56:27. | |
to re-negotiate will stop they do not want welfare changes or ever | :56:28. | :56:34. | |
closer union changes. They are not asking for competitiveness changes | :56:35. | :56:36. | |
but they just wanted a cop at someone who is getting the job done. | :56:37. | :56:45. | |
I welcome the Prime Minister's commitment to end the imposition of | :56:46. | :56:50. | |
ever closer union, if that can be achieved on a binding way for the | :56:51. | :56:55. | |
long-term future but what my constituents want to know is what is | :56:56. | :57:00. | |
being reversed and what is happening to the ever closer union we have | :57:01. | :57:07. | |
been subjected to for the last few years and what power was coming back | :57:08. | :57:14. | |
to this parliament? We have achieved the biggest ever return of powers | :57:15. | :57:19. | |
where a hundred measures came back to Britain and we have seen exactly | :57:20. | :57:22. | |
the same and we will see the same with respect to the euro and we want | :57:23. | :57:27. | |
to be sure we will not suffer any disadvantage and we cannot be | :57:28. | :57:29. | |
involved in bailout schemes and the British position is protected. It is | :57:30. | :57:36. | |
a return of power. If you look at the return of deregulation where we | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
say we need deregulation targets and cuts in regulation that is about | :57:41. | :57:44. | |
powers is coming back to Britain. If you look at the subsidiarity test | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
where every year the council should be asking if these powers are still | :57:50. | :57:55. | |
necessary and can they be returned? Hole aim of the re-negotiation is to | :57:56. | :57:58. | |
say that we are part of the European Union that has reformed and can | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
achieve greater prosperity and security for Britain but we are | :58:03. | :58:06. | |
doing it as a proud nation state with institutions that serve the | :58:07. | :58:07. | |
people who put us here. Elections in Spain have seen parties | :58:08. | :58:24. | |
losing power and is their concern about these developments? We are all | :58:25. | :58:30. | |
democracies so we accept the results in each other's elections. I am | :58:31. | :58:36. | |
happy to say that here a government that took difficult decisions over | :58:37. | :58:40. | |
the economy and the death achieved a higher share of the vote at the | :58:41. | :58:44. | |
election than it did at the previous one and I think there are benefits | :58:45. | :58:49. | |
from spelling bees things out but I am committed to working with the new | :58:50. | :58:54. | |
Portuguese Prime Minister and we will see what happens in Spain I | :58:55. | :58:57. | |
work very closely with their Prime Minister who did a very good job for | :58:58. | :59:02. | |
the country in very difficult circumstances. What the election | :59:03. | :59:05. | |
results show was how we need reform in Europe and we need a | :59:06. | :59:08. | |
competitiveness and the jobs in the ability to compete against the rest | :59:09. | :59:13. | |
of the world so we can create jobs and wealth here. Does the Prime | :59:14. | :59:19. | |
Minister agree that it is neither understand nor I inappropriately | :59:20. | :59:23. | |
discriminatory to place restrictions on those who come here from other | :59:24. | :59:27. | |
member states. It is evidenced by the fact that the original EU treaty | :59:28. | :59:30. | |
granted a right to residents but only to those who came to pursue an | :59:31. | :59:36. | |
economic activity. My honourable friend is absolutely right. One of | :59:37. | :59:39. | |
the problems that had emerged is because of the legal changes that | :59:40. | :59:44. | |
have been made, that have defined free movement in more and more more | :59:45. | :59:48. | |
generous way, used to be the case that it was free movement to take a | :59:49. | :59:55. | |
job for which you had applied but I think I am right in saying that 60 | :59:56. | :59:59. | |
of those who have come to Britain are job applicants and they do not | :00:00. | :00:05. | |
have a job when they come. We also need to address the welfare issue | :00:06. | :00:08. | |
because those people will be particularly affect Tidd by the | :00:09. | :00:15. | |
un-natural draw to. We need to make sure that the arrangements reduce | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
the unnatural poll of written as the honourable lady set out. The Prime | :00:21. | :00:28. | |
Minister has said that the EU referendum will reflect the choice | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
of the British people but it the choice of the British people does | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
not reflect the choice of the Prime Minister will he resign the? This is | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
the choice of the British people? Our aim is to set for wood to add -- | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
set forward a choice to the British people for the Europe that they | :00:47. | :00:53. | |
want. They can either stay in the European Union or leave the European | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
Union and I will continue to run the government, as I have. I salute the | :00:57. | :01:02. | |
decision to allow ministers to exercise their freedom of choice on | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
this very important matter. This is not a sign of personal weakness but | :01:07. | :01:13. | |
a final personal strength top we in this party can have a sensible | :01:14. | :01:16. | |
debate about a fundamental issue of serious importance to the British | :01:17. | :01:19. | |
people but the Prime Minister has just mentioned that the negotiations | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
may come to fruition in month. If they do when would the premise to | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
envisage the referendum taking place I make it a policy not to answer | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
questions that game with the word if even when they are put quite | :01:37. | :01:39. | |
charmingly. If we can achieve a result of February I do not think we | :01:40. | :01:43. | |
should delay the the referendum, we should get on and hold the | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
referendum and, as I have said it shouldn't be done in any unnatural | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
haste. It needs to have a proper number of months for people to | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
consider all of the arguments and that is exactly what will happen. | :01:55. | :02:01. | |
The common agricultural policy puts the price of food to people in this | :02:02. | :02:09. | |
country and it is an unnecessary burden on taxpayers. Will the | :02:10. | :02:12. | |
primaries to try to renegotiate that if you look at the fact surround it | :02:13. | :02:18. | |
is, the days of wine lakes and butter mountains have by and large | :02:19. | :02:21. | |
gone. I do not think it is possible to argue in the way that it was in | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
the past that it is adding hugely to bills for families and that is not | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
what is happening. There has been significant reform and some fairly | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
significant reform to the common fisheries policy. In all of these | :02:35. | :02:38. | |
areas are deregulation targets in subsidiarity tests would apply. | :02:39. | :02:44. | |
Could I invite my right honourable friend to make a list of the | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
European laws and the European Court rulings he believes depend primarily | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
on the ever closer union phrase in the treaties? I do not have the list | :02:56. | :03:01. | |
on me I do not carry it around to remind me but I think by his and my | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
right honourable friend said it had been sighted in the 50 different | :03:07. | :03:13. | |
actions. He was one of the people who in the past said how important | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
it was to get out of ever closer union and I would say to colleagues | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
who are considering this issue that this has been raised time and again | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
by people like me who were concerned about the ratchet of the European | :03:27. | :03:30. | |
Union and wanted to get this really negotiation right and if we can | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
deliver this then let us all men arms and celebrated. The Prime | :03:34. | :03:43. | |
Minister has heard a call from the Labour Party and then the SNP and | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
the SDLP and now the Liberal Democrats for the government to act | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
on the question of the three unaccompanied children. I hope his | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
colleagues will listen rather than laughing. These sorry if vulnerable | :03:58. | :04:08. | |
children are vulnerable now. At what point will he tell the house if he | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
will finish the consideration because these children are | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
vulnerable now. I cannot give an exact time frame but it will not | :04:20. | :04:26. | |
take ages to consider the issue. I appreciate that while there are very | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
important issues in favour of taking the action forward we have to | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
consider all of the issues including the people who are tragically | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
orphaned that have a order and wider family around them with currently | :04:40. | :04:48. | |
are. As the RAF seeks to destroy Daesh and Syria and Iraq does the | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
Prime Minister agree that our commitment to the two Nato defence | :04:53. | :04:58. | |
budget really helps our ability to strike those who threaten Britain? | :04:59. | :05:06. | |
My honourable friend is absolutely right. This provides the resources | :05:07. | :05:11. | |
we need and also sends a signal about Britain's lace in the world | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
and the intention to play a full role in trying to safeguard our | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
world and it has been recognised by our allies and our enemies. However | :05:19. | :05:26. | |
the Prime Minister wishes to characterise ever closer union is it | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
the case that most people accept that the European Union as it is two | :05:32. | :05:34. | |
is moving in the direction of the union of European state, rather than | :05:35. | :05:42. | |
the United States of Europe? This is an important argument. Forces are | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
going in both directions. On the good side than widening of the | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
European Union to include the Baltic states in the northern countries and | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
the Balkan states I think it has been a great advance for British | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
agenda and we are focusing Europe on doing trade deals with the fastest | :06:00. | :06:02. | |
parts of the world rather than looking inwards and it is a great | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
advance to the agenda but proposal still come forward for more | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
Federalist it approaches and what Rittenhouse done successfully is | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
calve ourselves out of those things so if Europe wants to have a border | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
force to help police is external Borders -- Borders that is something | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
for them and we will not take part in it. With the Eurozone wants to | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
pass a series of laws to have a fiscal union mutual debt obligations | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
then that is a matter for them as long as we are not involved. What I | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
aim to get in this re-negotiation is the best of both worlds for Britain. | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
In Europe where it is for our benefit but not involved in those | :06:42. | :06:44. | |
things that would be the wrong passage of sovereignty to others. | :06:45. | :06:52. | |
The Prime Minister tells us that other EU heads of government say the | :06:53. | :06:55. | |
EU needs Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Doesn't it show the | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
strength of our negotiating position they need our money and our economic | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
strength. Hasn't the time come to screw his courage to the sticking | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
point and to say to Chancellor Merkel when he next sees her that | :07:10. | :07:16. | |
great to be Berlin please we want some more. I will bear that in mind | :07:17. | :07:24. | |
when I go and see her in the snows of Bavaria on Wednesday evening. Of | :07:25. | :07:32. | |
course we have negotiating a and a strong position because we make such | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
a huge contribution to this organisation. What I have set out is | :07:37. | :07:45. | |
the right approach for our country. The recent British /Irish parliament | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
Assembly there were huge concerns expressed by parliamentary | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
colleagues why across the British Isles about the possible exit from | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
the European Union by this country. Can I ask the Prime Minister what, | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
if any, work has been done about the specific impact on Northern Ireland | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
and the Republic and our closest neighbour if this referendum is | :08:09. | :08:12. | |
lost? The right honourable gentleman makes a very important point out one | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
of the strongest voices of support for the British re-negotiation was | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
the Irish leader and a who made a brilliant speech at the European | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
Council. -- Enda Kenny. The Republic of Ireland wants Britain to stay | :08:30. | :08:35. | |
because many issues will arise because of the border and other | :08:36. | :08:41. | |
things it we were outside. Of course the Republic of Ireland sees Britain | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
as a strong voice in Europe for many of the things that it believes in. | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
We have to get this deal right and bring all the arguments to bear on | :08:51. | :08:57. | |
both sides of the case and what those in the Republic and Northern | :08:58. | :09:00. | |
Ireland say will make a very big determination. On the issue of | :09:01. | :09:06. | |
security one of the safeguards for the United Kingdom against terrorism | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
is not foolproof, one of the safeguards is the lack of access to | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
small arms and light weapons and in particular semiautomatic rifles. Can | :09:15. | :09:18. | |
I commend the Prime Minister in his efforts at the council meeting to | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
ensure that we get more work done across Europe working with the | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
Western Balkan countries to stop the smuggling of illegal weapons from | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
the Balkans into Europe? Honourable friend is absolutely right about | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
this issue. I raised the issue personally at the European Council | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
not just about small arms but also semiautomatic weapons and there is | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
more action being taken in Europe and some of the countries | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
particularly the Nordic countries have a particular issue with it | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
because of the way their citizens defence forces are setup. We have to | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
go to all of those problems to do more bust stopping the arms coming | :09:56. | :09:56. | |
from the Balkans is absolutely key. Britain is taking great leadership | :09:57. | :10:11. | |
in a environmental policy in Europe and beyond. Will the Prime Minister | :10:12. | :10:18. | |
use the climate conference to press the EU to ensure the imperatives | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
from climate change from that conference are fully integrated into | :10:23. | :10:28. | |
the US/EU free trade agreement so that countries do not find | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
governments when they pass legislation on emissions targets? | :10:34. | :10:40. | |
I think the honourable gentleman raises an important point. It is | :10:41. | :10:46. | |
important that we implement these things agreed, either within the | :10:47. | :10:52. | |
United Kingdom or the European Union. I do not see the detail | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
providing any particular problems at this moment. European Union migrants | :10:57. | :11:06. | |
who can claim up to 700 pounds per month in tax credits, almost double | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
what they could claim in Germany. Germany is now changing its rules so | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
they could not claim. Does my honourable friend not agree that | :11:15. | :11:22. | |
this sort of reform is possible in this country and what impact would | :11:23. | :11:28. | |
it deliver? My honourable friend is right to reason that. The | :11:29. | :11:32. | |
requirement on these welfare changes has stimulated something of a debate | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
in Europe. Germany, I do not want to speak for the Chancellor, they are | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
trying to deal with this issue as this in time as we do. They have a | :11:44. | :11:49. | |
more contributory system. I am convinced we can come to a good | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
answer and countries across the north of Europe understand how much | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
this needs to be done. Given that the ballot paper for the referendum | :12:01. | :12:04. | |
makes no mention of the renegotiation is, can he answer the | :12:05. | :12:13. | |
simple question, does he believe in principle we should stay in the | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
European Union or leave it. There are a thing to do is to wait for the | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
Renate renegotiate renegotiation to see if we can stay in it when it is | :12:23. | :12:30. | |
be amended. But is all about giving people more choice. I do not want | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
the false choice of staying in a organisation that needs reform or | :12:35. | :12:40. | |
leaving it. I want a better choice than that. That is what is being | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
said in all four countries. That is why we are putting that place. Given | :12:46. | :12:52. | |
the importance of the question of the economic impact on this country | :12:53. | :12:58. | |
on whether we stay or go, can we get an assurance that he will try and | :12:59. | :13:14. | |
push for what a fear situation who get the best of both worlds by being | :13:15. | :13:21. | |
part of the European market but not a member of the single currency. We | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
believe you should not suffer disadvantage if you are not in the | :13:27. | :13:34. | |
single currency. We have been part of helping out and bailing out | :13:35. | :13:40. | |
countries who have been in trouble within the Eurozone. On a number of | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
occasions, the importance of this has been shown. It is central to our | :13:46. | :13:53. | |
renegotiations. Being part of the single European market is obviously | :13:54. | :13:58. | |
very important to 's remaining a vibrant economy. Will he publish a | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
report showing the impact on the British economy of as withdrawing | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
from it? I believe that documents do need to be published. I believe the | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
other place insisted on what documents needed to be published. I | :14:16. | :14:21. | |
think the bowl set over what they renegotiation has accomplished of | :14:22. | :14:24. | |
what the benefits or otherwise are. This is what was decided by the | :14:25. | :14:30. | |
other place and has not been decided by others. My right honourable | :14:31. | :14:40. | |
friend rightly told us about discussions with regard to passenger | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
data sharing. Could he tell us whether they are also discussions on | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
the equally important discussion on people who come to work here, but | :14:51. | :14:58. | |
just back-to-back -- checks on the likes of whether people turned up to | :14:59. | :15:05. | |
work? The aim is to have far more collaboration and cooperation | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
through Europe. One of the situation that the aeroplane attack in cattle | :15:12. | :15:19. | |
showed that while we have good airport security, you need to keep | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
on your toes, wondering how could the terrorists get access to any | :15:25. | :15:33. | |
aeroplane in that way. The Foreign Minister from Paul and saying they | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
will support the Prime Minister on and work benefits if he will back | :15:39. | :15:45. | |
the of the man's folly needle bees. As he had the discussions on this | :15:46. | :15:58. | |
with his counterparts in Poland -- Nato. That has not been discussed | :15:59. | :16:08. | |
but we do believe that more Nato forces should be deployed in eastern | :16:09. | :16:12. | |
European countries, so that we sure that we are standing by our | :16:13. | :16:21. | |
obligations. It is important that when Russia look over the borders, | :16:22. | :16:28. | |
VC soldiers from not just these countries, but from Nato countries, | :16:29. | :16:38. | |
as well. The German Chancellor said it was important that Britain found | :16:39. | :16:45. | |
a solution. The tool is encouraging. The crux note is converting music | :16:46. | :16:53. | |
into substance? There is goodwill towards Britain. Many of the | :16:54. | :17:00. | |
contributions were not just about Britain benefiting from being in | :17:01. | :17:06. | |
Europe, which you not benefiting from Britain being part of the | :17:07. | :17:09. | |
European Union. They do not want us to leave. I wish the Prime Minister | :17:10. | :17:19. | |
well in the renegotiations. I will be campaigning for Britain to stay | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
in the European Union whether he is successful or not. It means a lot to | :17:24. | :17:33. | |
us that we can campaign on the basis of an honest and transparent case, | :17:34. | :17:41. | |
but it is difficult for them seeing the changes are irreversible. A | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
future government of Prime Minister could change the way in which we are | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
going. Could he withdraw the idea that what he is campaigning for will | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
be irreversible. I am campaigning for changes which are legally | :17:59. | :18:07. | |
binding and irreversible. Should the future 28 people represented wish to | :18:08. | :18:10. | |
take the European Union in a different direction, that would be | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
concerning. But we passed through this house the referendum lot 's of | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
any future Labour Prime Minister or anyone else trying to give away | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
powers that we already have or give back, there would be another | :18:26. | :18:28. | |
referendum. I do not think we need to worry about that. In his | :18:29. | :18:38. | |
well-received speech during the debate on Syria, the Shadow Foreign | :18:39. | :18:50. | |
Minister topped to the Kurdish minister and talked about the | :18:51. | :18:58. | |
importance of ear strikes within Syria by the Royal Air Force we are | :18:59. | :19:06. | |
crucially important. If we believe in shrinking and eradicating IS we | :19:07. | :19:17. | |
need to do and both sides of the border. Most of the concentration of | :19:18. | :19:26. | |
us has been concentrated on Iraq. We can no pursue people across the | :19:27. | :19:30. | |
border and take action against the oil wealth that IS has built up is | :19:31. | :19:41. | |
important. In his remarks, the Prime Minister discussed the four pillars | :19:42. | :19:48. | |
as his proposals. He has here and colleagues sating the Conservative | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
manifesto. Can he explain what has been the difference between a | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
four-year proposal on four four-year demand? The United Kingdom has put | :19:59. | :20:06. | |
its proposals on the table on each of the four areas. The only thing, | :20:07. | :20:15. | |
we talked about Child benefit, benefit abuse, criminality and | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
migration rules. I have said that my proposal remains of the table until | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
something equally good is put in his place. I am happy to listen to other | :20:25. | :20:31. | |
suggestions. But people need to know this is absolutely crucial. It is | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
crucial and is getting the right deal. In the event of Switzerland | :20:36. | :20:42. | |
effectively restricting freedom of movement, with migrate an honourable | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
friends position change as a result and would what's good for | :20:47. | :20:53. | |
Switzerland good for the United Kingdom? I am watching for it | :20:54. | :20:59. | |
closely the attempts by Switzerland to renegotiate the position they | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
have asked the referendum that the hilt. I think the difficulty of the | :21:04. | :21:10. | |
position is, of course, the European Union is seen to Switzerland that we | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
are happy to talk to you about free movement of people, but, of course, | :21:15. | :21:20. | |
everything else is up for grabs that is no guarantee of Switzerland | :21:21. | :21:23. | |
having access to any part of the single market unless there can be an | :21:24. | :21:28. | |
agreement on the Celia. I think this is worth thinking about carefully, | :21:29. | :21:36. | |
in terms the relationship between a small country do with the European | :21:37. | :21:39. | |
Union and the rest of the European union. He has asked for other ideas | :21:40. | :21:49. | |
today, with the support my parties call for greater influence for | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
devolved government for decision-making to make more | :21:53. | :22:00. | |
accountability and democracy within the European Union. I think we have | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
made great steps in that regard. We continue to do that. As well as our | :22:06. | :22:15. | |
Armed Forces, will be Prime Minister also paid tribute to the Tisch | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
police officers, such as the Chief Constable of Leicestershire police, | :22:21. | :22:30. | |
who is the lead on the present strategy to prevent radicalisation | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
and two works so hard with other police officers to protect us all | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
from terrorists. It is a good moment to pay tribute to the police. They | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
worked incredibly hard over Christmas, with the hating concern | :22:45. | :22:53. | |
there has been over the Palace italics. -- hated. Paris attacks. I | :22:54. | :23:07. | |
cannot believe the Prime Minister believes that 3000 children who want | :23:08. | :23:14. | |
to come to this country are trying to break in. It is what you said. | :23:15. | :23:23. | |
Can we put the record straight. It is not acceptable to say that | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
because there is some disagreement about how to help the children that | :23:27. | :23:33. | |
it is a argument for doing nothing. I am asking is a commitment to help | :23:34. | :23:40. | |
3000 children. Will he just do that? I did not in anyway mislead the | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
house. The rate honourable lady said she had been to the and seen the | :23:46. | :23:51. | |
state of it. I was making the point that we will do everything we can to | :23:52. | :23:57. | |
help the French deal with people via, but the people in the camp they | :23:58. | :24:02. | |
are, they did not have a right to come to the United Kingdom. They | :24:03. | :24:07. | |
should be, under international rules, claiming asylum in the first | :24:08. | :24:14. | |
safe country the reach. On the issue of unaccompanied children, of course | :24:15. | :24:17. | |
we will look very carefully at this. We are taking people from the camps, | :24:18. | :24:24. | |
that is the 20,000, which includes many vulnerable people. We are | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
looking at the 3000 people in good faith. There are issues which have | :24:30. | :24:36. | |
to be worked through, but I have the opportunity to separate these two | :24:37. | :24:43. | |
issues and they will come that. I commend the statement on the | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
European Union Council. Would he confirmed that United Kingdom | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
personnel will not take part in any sort of area patrols and would he | :24:53. | :25:02. | |
agree that that would go against the principles of moving away? There is | :25:03. | :25:11. | |
no prospect of us being part of a European external border force. Our | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
forces well protected and we need to look up what more we can do. But if | :25:18. | :25:26. | |
other European countries want to do more, should we not help? I do not | :25:27. | :25:33. | |
think so. We want to see a better protected European border system. | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
But the route we would cooperate or help any future force I do not know. | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
That could be looked at in the future. We have got more people | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
working on the European Asylum support office than any other | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
European country. We recognise that protecting our border is in our | :25:52. | :25:56. | |
interest. We have the best of both worlds. Keep our border controls and | :25:57. | :26:03. | |
encourage others to do more. Help Wear it is appropriate and necessary | :26:04. | :26:06. | |
but make sure we maintain our own security. | :26:07. | :26:29. | |
Are people would stay in the European Union and began that if the | :26:30. | :26:33. | |
majority of people in England look to leave. From most of 2040 by Mr | :26:34. | :26:39. | |
told us that being part of the UK was only way to guarantee our | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
membership of the EU. Tell us how it is possible to reconcile those | :26:45. | :26:48. | |
directly contradictory statements? Very easily. If Scotland had voted | :26:49. | :26:54. | |
to leave the UK, which, wisely, the people of Scotland rejected, they | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
would have been a very long queue to get back into the EU. Having met | :26:59. | :27:04. | |
with the Spanish Prime Minister several times, I'm not sure there | :27:05. | :27:07. | |
are many circumstances where the Spanish would ever let an | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
independent Scotland back into the European Union. That is the answer | :27:12. | :27:14. | |
to the first questions. The answer to the second is we had a referendum | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
on whether Scotland should remain part of the UK. Scotland voted to | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
stay in the UK and his party vowed to abide by the decision that was | :27:25. | :27:30. | |
taken. One United Kingdom. Thank you. Does he remain the case that by | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
forcing -- focusing our efforts in the region, by helping in those | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
areas we can help 20 people from one person we would bring to Britain and | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
isn't that the most effective way of the British people helping these | :27:46. | :27:48. | |
people who find themselves in such difficult situations? My friend is | :27:49. | :27:55. | |
right about that. The figures to speak for themselves. They said we | :27:56. | :27:58. | |
will take 20,000 people from the camps and do 1000 by Christmas and | :27:59. | :28:02. | |
get on with it and thanks to the excellent work of my honourable | :28:03. | :28:05. | |
friend from Watford we have fulfilled our pledge. If you look at | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
the resettlement and relocation schemes the EU spend a lot of time | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
discussing, so far they have not amounted to as much as the thousand | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
people we have done. I'm sure they will over time. The point I make is | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
that Britain is a country that prides itself on signing agreements | :28:24. | :28:26. | |
and implementing them and doing the things that is agreements set out. | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
Let us examine what we've done with Syrian refugees. Doesn't that is | :28:31. | :28:37. | |
exactly. As the Prime Minister discussed his renegotiation efforts | :28:38. | :28:40. | |
with the Chief Minister of Gibraltar and does he recognise the growing | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
anxiety of Gibraltarians at the prospect of British exit from the | :28:45. | :28:52. | |
EU, not least on the prospect that a currently impartial commission and | :28:53. | :28:57. | |
other member states might take side in future deliberations between | :28:58. | :29:01. | |
Britain and Spain? I have not discussed the issue recently with | :29:02. | :29:06. | |
an very good terms with him. People an very good terms with him. People | :29:07. | :29:13. | |
into bottle will have a vote. In the Gibraltar. In the week before | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
Christmas I was fortunate to meet a Syrian family resettled in this | :29:18. | :29:20. | |
country in my constituency and speaking to the parents it was | :29:21. | :29:23. | |
obvious how grateful they are and what the tears well up in the little | :29:24. | :29:28. | |
girl's eyes, whose game age as my daughter, a reminder of what a | :29:29. | :29:31. | |
1000 by Christmas was the big ask 1000 by Christmas was the big ask | :29:32. | :29:35. | |
but we did it but because the British Red Cross will get these | :29:36. | :29:38. | |
people come caseworker and interrupt it was in an example and reminder | :29:39. | :29:41. | |
that doing it properly and bringing them under the right terms and | :29:42. | :29:44. | |
making sure they had the services they need, we have done this right | :29:45. | :29:49. | |
way around. I'm grateful to my honourable friend. I think it is the | :29:50. | :29:52. | |
right way of doing it. We got keep on and make sure we devil is meant | :29:53. | :29:56. | |
to live on the 20,000 we promised, I want to pay to beat the local | :29:57. | :29:59. | |
authorities who have offered housing and support and the model we have is | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
the right one. -- paid tribute. This afternoon the parameters spoke about | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
the national security being a compelling reason for staying in the | :30:09. | :30:11. | |
year, can the Prime Minister explain to me how it will work if his Home | :30:12. | :30:15. | |
Secretary then decides to campaign to leave the EU? I set at the | :30:16. | :30:21. | |
position that we will make a recommendation following the | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
conclusion of the renegotiation. The Government will have a position and | :30:26. | :30:28. | |
I set out what I want a position to be but I have to conclude | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
successfully my renegotiation first. In that circumstance, a cabinet that | :30:34. | :30:37. | |
has repeatedly discussed this issue and gone through the areas of | :30:38. | :30:42. | |
renegotiation will come to a clear position. Of course, ministers that | :30:43. | :30:46. | |
have long-standing strong views on this who wants to campaign on a | :30:47. | :30:50. | |
personal capacity will be able to do so. That is the sensible and mature | :30:51. | :30:56. | |
and right thing to do and comes into force once we have completed the | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
renegotiation and I look forward to that moment coming. As chair of the | :31:00. | :31:08. | |
Danish party Parliamentary group I noted with interest the Danish | :31:09. | :31:11. | |
people voted against moves to make it opt out on justice and of affairs | :31:12. | :31:17. | |
in the recent referendum. Due in large part to concerns about | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
migration. Can my honourable friend confirm this was was at -- discussed | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
at the council and does he agree that this result further underlines | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
the importance of the EU responding positively to either reform agenda | :31:31. | :31:34. | |
and also to making sure it has better controls over its own | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
borders? I think my honourable friend is right. Europe has to | :31:39. | :31:42. | |
address individual concerns of individual countries. I think that | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
is what it's doing with respect to Britain. The Danish Government to | :31:48. | :31:51. | |
the particular approach of Waddington told this referendum, | :31:52. | :31:59. | |
that is a matter for Denmark. I hope everyone can be creative and helpful | :32:00. | :32:01. | |
in trying to make sure that Denmark can benefit from the security that | :32:02. | :32:08. | |
is available to institutions like Europol, and I'm sure they want to | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
go on cooperating in and working in that and we will have to find a way | :32:13. | :32:19. | |
of week of making that happen. The UK helped to draft the UN refugee | :32:20. | :32:23. | |
conventions after the Second World War when we promised that never | :32:24. | :32:28. | |
again would refugees be left out in the cold and as the first child of | :32:29. | :32:34. | |
2016, their body was washed up on Greek shores this weekend, refugee | :32:35. | :32:42. | |
charities have written to the Prime Minister and said the Colin Tizzard | :32:43. | :32:46. | |
to slow, and too narrow and will he show leadership and shows what | :32:47. | :32:52. | |
refugees in working with EU partners to establish safe and legal ways to | :32:53. | :32:56. | |
reach the EU? -- and said the reaction was too slow. I have just | :32:57. | :33:02. | |
replied to that very powerful letter and made a number of the points we | :33:03. | :33:05. | |
discussed here today, including the point that we made our promise of | :33:06. | :33:09. | |
20,000 and are delivering that stands in contrast to some of these | :33:10. | :33:12. | |
schemes that are not yet up and running in the way that ours is. The | :33:13. | :33:18. | |
one of the key points about the UN rules is people should claim asylum | :33:19. | :33:21. | |
and refugee status in the first safe country they reach. That is | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
important we try and reinforce that in the work we do. I welcome what | :33:26. | :33:33. | |
the Prime Minister has said that the Commissioner's proposal on firearms. | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
Some of the measures are to be welcomed in this but some other of | :33:37. | :33:39. | |
the proposals are causing great concern amongst re-enactment and | :33:40. | :33:44. | |
living history group to prop -- across the UK for the Kenya surely | :33:45. | :33:47. | |
you will look carefully at the details of these proposals to ensure | :33:48. | :33:50. | |
there are not any unintended consequences? I have had some | :33:51. | :33:57. | |
letters as a constituency MP from people who are indeed reactions and | :33:58. | :34:01. | |
we do need to look carefully at this. There has been a problem with | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
replica guns that get converted to be guns that can kill people. We | :34:06. | :34:11. | |
have to be careful, while showing sympathy to those who have replicas | :34:12. | :34:16. | |
or other things like that, we must make sure they are not a genuine | :34:17. | :34:23. | |
danger. Just before Christmas in the media there were reports that some | :34:24. | :34:28. | |
tens of thousands of blank EU passports had been stolen. If that | :34:29. | :34:32. | |
is true it has great consequences for our security at our immigration | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
and everything else. Is it true? And if it is true, what are we doing | :34:38. | :34:45. | |
about it? I am not aware of that report, I will look into it and | :34:46. | :34:47. | |
perhaps write to the honourable gentleman. Does my friend Mark agree | :34:48. | :34:55. | |
with me that the cost to burst -- controversial decisions to grant | :34:56. | :35:00. | |
asylum to Abdul-Rahman in her room, the man who infamously broke into | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
and ran through the Channel Tunnel, sends the wrong signal when -- and | :35:05. | :35:11. | |
risks seriously undermining public in the EU and our border controls? | :35:12. | :35:15. | |
These decisions made independently according to the asylum rules and | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
let's be clear, we should do everything we can to secure the | :35:22. | :35:24. | |
tunnel and making sure that it is not possible for people to access | :35:25. | :35:31. | |
our country by breaking into it. Nato strategy and priorities must | :35:32. | :35:38. | |
not be completed with his EU negotiation so I would like the | :35:39. | :35:40. | |
Prime Minister to give us that categoric assurance that in all the | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
discussions with the Polish Government, giving them a permanent | :35:46. | :35:49. | |
and Poland will not be discussed as part of their support for this | :35:50. | :35:57. | |
agreement? No one has spoken about a base in the way that he puts it. I | :35:58. | :36:03. | |
strongly support as part of the Nato strategy already agreed that we | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
should be contributing to the high readiness forces and we should be | :36:08. | :36:11. | |
taking part in the Baltic air policing mission, for example, and | :36:12. | :36:15. | |
we should be making sure British soldiers exercise on Polish soil, as | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
they do, and of their proposals did more of those things I would welcome | :36:20. | :36:27. | |
them. Does the Prime Minister agree there is nothing progressive or | :36:28. | :36:29. | |
noble about handing over more and more powers to unelected, | :36:30. | :36:33. | |
unaccountable overseas bodies? And does he agree with my constituents | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
that the importance of the principle of ever closer union is there | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
because it sets out a clear direction of intent? My honourable | :36:42. | :36:47. | |
friend is right about that. That is why, as I said, Britain's engagement | :36:48. | :36:51. | |
is about Europe is not half-hearted when it comes to the single market, | :36:52. | :36:55. | |
we are its greatest champions for the point comes to putting sanctions | :36:56. | :36:58. | |
against Putin's Russia because of Ukraine, were the ones in the | :36:59. | :37:01. | |
vanguard and when it comes to wanting to sign deals with the | :37:02. | :37:04. | |
fastest-growing parts of the world were making the argument we never | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
believed in an ever closer union, in a political superstate, that is not | :37:10. | :37:13. | |
what we want and I want to give the British people a clear choice that | :37:14. | :37:18. | |
we can be in Europe for the trade ankle operation and security that we | :37:19. | :37:24. | |
require, but we do not want to be part of a federalising project out | :37:25. | :37:28. | |
of the euro, out of Schengen, not having to be part of these | :37:29. | :37:31. | |
supranational things, I think we will get a good deal. Statement, the | :37:32. | :37:43. | |
Home Secretary. Theresa May. With permission, I would like to make a | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
statement about our work to counter the threat we face from terrorism in | :37:48. | :37:51. | |
light of the latest propaganda video from Daesh. This weekend Daesh | :37:52. | :37:56. | |
released a video depicting the sickening murder of five men who | :37:57. | :38:01. | |
they had accused of spying for Britain. The video also featured a | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
young boy. I would like to echo the Prime Minister's worst that this is | :38:07. | :38:11. | |
a barbaric and appalling video. Daesh seek to intimidate and spread | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
hateful propaganda, but in doing so they only expose their own depravity | :38:17. | :38:20. | |
and the emptiness of their proposition. The house will | :38:21. | :38:27. | |
understand this is an ongoing police investigation and I cannot comment | :38:28. | :38:30. | |
further about that investigation continues. To do so could prejudice | :38:31. | :38:34. | |
the outcome of any future judicial process and for the same reason I | :38:35. | :38:37. | |
cannot comment on the alleged identities of the man or a child in | :38:38. | :38:42. | |
the video. Since the start of the conflict in Syria, more than 800 | :38:43. | :38:47. | |
people from the UK who are of national security concern I thought | :38:48. | :38:50. | |
I've travelled to the region and we believe that around half of those | :38:51. | :38:54. | |
have returned. Those who have travelled including young women and | :38:55. | :38:59. | |
families. We have seen deadly Daesh inspired terrorist attacks in Europe | :39:00. | :39:02. | |
and other countries, including the attacks last year in Paris, Lebanon, | :39:03. | :39:09. | |
Turkey, Kuwait, and Tunisia, where 30 British nationals along with | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
others were murdered at a tourist resort. It is imperative the police | :39:14. | :39:17. | |
and security is evidence that the resources and powers they need to | :39:18. | :39:23. | |
keep us safe. Since 20 we have protected the counterterrorism | :39:24. | :39:26. | |
policing budget and we announced in November through strategic defence | :39:27. | :39:29. | |
and Security review we have made new funding available to the security | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
and intelligence agencies. This will provide for an additional 1900 | :39:35. | :39:41. | |
officers, an increase of 15% at MI5, MI6 and GCHQ. To better respond to | :39:42. | :39:46. | |
the Fayette we face from international terrorism from cyber | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
attacks and other global risks. -- the thread. We've increased the | :39:51. | :39:55. | |
powers available to the police and security and intelligence agencies. | :39:56. | :39:58. | |
In 2013I booted the criteria regarding use of the Royal | :39:59. | :40:01. | |
prerogative that allows the Government to cancel passports of | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
those trapped planning to travel to engage in terrorist rated activity | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
overseas and in doing the 14 I removed 24 passports from people | :40:09. | :40:11. | |
intending to travel for terrorism related activity. Last year the | :40:12. | :40:16. | |
counterterrorism and security act provided new powers to deal | :40:17. | :40:20. | |
specifically with the problem of foreign fighters and prevent | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
radicalisation. This included a new power to temporarily seize the | :40:25. | :40:26. | |
passports of those suspected of intending to leave the UK in | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
connection with terrorism related activity. These powers have been | :40:32. | :40:34. | |
used on more than 20 occasions and in some cases have led to longer | :40:35. | :40:38. | |
term disruptive action such as use of the world prerogative | :40:39. | :40:41. | |
term disruptive action such as use of the world prerogative | :40:42. | :40:42. | |
to permanently cancel a British passport. In November, we published | :40:43. | :40:46. | |
the draft investigatory Powers bill that is currently undergoing | :40:47. | :40:50. | |
pre-legislative scrutiny. Since April last year, exits checks have | :40:51. | :40:55. | |
been in place on all international commercial scheduled air, sea and | :40:56. | :41:00. | |
rail services using the UK. The information is provided supporting | :41:01. | :41:03. | |
our intelligence work, enabling us to make progress interventions. In | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
addition, the UK has joined the European watchlist system, meaning | :41:08. | :41:13. | |
we are now alerted when any individual is stopped at a border | :41:14. | :41:16. | |
checkpoint or by police anywhere in Europe and is checked against the | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
system. Through our prevent and channel programmes, we are working | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
to protect people from being drawn into terrorism in partnership with | :41:25. | :41:27. | |
industry, we are working to secure the removal of extreme videos | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
through the counterterrorism internet referral unit. They are | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
currently securing the removal of around 1000 pieces of unlawful | :41:37. | :41:39. | |
terrorist related content every week. | :41:40. | :41:46. | |
We must not let that happen and we stand with all of those who want to | :41:47. | :41:53. | |
stop them. Time and again we have seen people of all faiths and | :41:54. | :41:57. | |
backgrounds join together and demonstrate their opposition to | :41:58. | :42:02. | |
terror and their stand for democracy and freedom. Britain will not be | :42:03. | :42:05. | |
intimidated by Daesh and together we will defeat them. Andy Burnham. | :42:06. | :42:13. | |
Thank you, Mr Speaker. As the Home Secretary has said, people will have | :42:14. | :42:17. | |
been sickened to see images from the latest Daesh video on their TV | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
screens last night. Even more disturbing is the British voices in | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
the video. And reports that one of them is a UK national who absconded | :42:27. | :42:32. | |
to Syria whilst on police bail for terror related offences. Something | :42:33. | :42:38. | |
has clearly gone seriously wrong, people will rightly want to know how | :42:39. | :42:41. | |
on earth this could happen and reassurance that steps are at hand | :42:42. | :42:48. | |
to prevent that repeating. The Home Secretary has not provided that | :42:49. | :42:52. | |
today. I appreciate there is a limit to what she can say but she is only | :42:53. | :42:57. | |
saying anything at all because we applied for an urgent question. I | :42:58. | :43:02. | |
believe the public are owed more than that and I want to set out | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
today the questions she will need to answer, if not today then over the | :43:08. | :43:11. | |
coming days and weeks on the specifics and the wider implications | :43:12. | :43:15. | |
of this case. First, on the case itself and the reports concerning | :43:16. | :43:20. | |
Siddhartha Dhar, whether or not he is the person in the video doesn't | :43:21. | :43:25. | |
matter. The system has failed because it allowed him to abscond to | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
Syria. It is those failings I want to focus on rather than the | :43:31. | :43:34. | |
identities of people in the video. He was well-known to the authorities | :43:35. | :43:38. | |
having been arrested six times on terror related offences before being | :43:39. | :43:44. | |
placed on police bail in 2014 and requested to surrender his passport. | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
It is when he failed to comply that it emerged he had absconded and it | :43:50. | :43:53. | |
brings me to my first question. Can the Secretary tell the House when | :43:54. | :44:00. | |
she was first made aware that this individual absconded? Did she order | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
an enquiry at that time? And if she did, it can she say what -- can she | :44:06. | :44:16. | |
say what action occurred? And if she didn't can she say why? Was he | :44:17. | :44:21. | |
placed on a watchlist and if so when? If not, why not? At the heart | :44:22. | :44:28. | |
of this case is the system of police bail for people arrested terrorism | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
related activity will stop and whether or not it offers that the | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
ten shall for loopholes. Can the Home Secretary tell the house | :44:37. | :44:39. | |
whether the authorities followed the correct procedures between arrest | :44:40. | :44:43. | |
and the bail hearing? Even if they were followed I have evidence they | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
were far too weak. I have here the letter sent to Siddhartha Dhar | :44:49. | :44:52. | |
setting out his bail conditions after he was bailed on the 26th of | :44:53. | :44:59. | |
September 20 14. It reminds him that he was due to surrender travel | :45:00. | :45:03. | |
documents by the 3rd of October, but the letter was sent over a month | :45:04. | :45:07. | |
later on the 7th of November. Let me quote from it. It has come to our | :45:08. | :45:12. | |
notice that condition number three has not been complied with or so our | :45:13. | :45:16. | |
records suggest. Are there need changes to your circumstances that | :45:17. | :45:20. | |
the police need to be aware of? Could you contact the police on the | :45:21. | :45:23. | |
telephone number listed as a matter of urgency? Does this in any way | :45:24. | :45:29. | |
sound adequate to the seriousness of the charges concerned? It is clear | :45:30. | :45:33. | |
that he had left the country long before this letter was sent. | :45:34. | :45:40. | |
Regardless of the individuals in the video, this individual absconded and | :45:41. | :45:43. | |
the Home Secretary needs to provide and sewers. How many other | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
individuals are currently on bail for terror related offences? Is she | :45:49. | :45:52. | |
satisfied that the bail conditions and monitoring of those individuals | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
is adequate? Is this the only example of an individual absconded | :45:57. | :46:01. | |
whilst on police bail or are there others? On the passport, can the | :46:02. | :46:07. | |
Home Secretary say whether it should be seized immediately rather than | :46:08. | :46:11. | |
being surrendered voluntarily? Can the Home Secretary say whether | :46:12. | :46:15. | |
individuals in terrorism related cases should immediately be placed | :46:16. | :46:18. | |
on the watch list at the point of arrest? There are wider implications | :46:19. | :46:24. | |
about border checks. Anecdotal reports that people continue to be | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
waved through at seaports. The Government committed to check all | :46:30. | :46:32. | |
passports on exit from the UK by the end of the last parliament. Has that | :46:33. | :46:37. | |
been implemented? If it is not currently every passport when will | :46:38. | :46:43. | |
it be 100%? Even if his passport was not checked here, it should have | :46:44. | :46:46. | |
been checked on arrival in the Schengen area. But the time he went | :46:47. | :46:52. | |
through the border the UK was not party to the Schengen information | :46:53. | :46:56. | |
system which allows the sharing of our watchlist across Europe because | :46:57. | :47:00. | |
the Home Secretary delayed our participation. In retrospect that | :47:01. | :47:03. | |
she now except that there was a mistake and it weakened security | :47:04. | :47:09. | |
arrangements? Can she now confirm we are playing our full part? We know | :47:10. | :47:15. | |
the border force has undergone upheaval since 2010, losing staff | :47:16. | :47:21. | |
and is today facing further cuts. Will further cuts leave us exposed? | :47:22. | :47:26. | |
In conclusion, whilst we appreciate that this is an ongoing police | :47:27. | :47:30. | |
investigation, the fact that this individual could abscond when facing | :47:31. | :47:36. | |
major charges raises serious questions about counterterrorism | :47:37. | :47:39. | |
policy. We need a commitment from her today that there will be an | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
enquiry into this episode that will be made available to this House. | :47:44. | :47:48. | |
There has clearly been a major security lapse and the onus is now | :47:49. | :47:53. | |
very firmly on the Home Secretary to demonstrate that she is taking all | :47:54. | :47:58. | |
necessary action to strengthen our systems of monitoring people who | :47:59. | :48:06. | |
pose a risk to our country. Well, obviously the Shadow Home Secretary | :48:07. | :48:09. | |
has asked a number of questions and he is right as I indicated that I | :48:10. | :48:14. | |
won't comment on individual reports that are in the papers in relation | :48:15. | :48:21. | |
to the Daesh video, that is an ongoing investigation. Initial | :48:22. | :48:24. | |
assessment has been made and work continues. On the general points | :48:25. | :48:27. | |
about the whole question of police bail, the conditions for police bail | :48:28. | :48:35. | |
and issues around border checks, first of all, as the Shadow Home | :48:36. | :48:39. | |
Secretary and would issue mad he does note that the decision as to | :48:40. | :48:42. | |
whether someone would be placed on police bail and the conditions | :48:43. | :48:47. | |
relating to that is an operational matter which is undertaken, a | :48:48. | :48:51. | |
decision undertaken by the police. I seem to recall that in the past when | :48:52. | :48:56. | |
terrorism, counterterrorism legislation was going through this | :48:57. | :49:00. | |
house and proposals were made by organisations outside this House | :49:01. | :49:04. | |
that more use should be made of police bail for terrorist offenders | :49:05. | :49:07. | |
the official opposition supported the concept. He asks about the whole | :49:08. | :49:15. | |
question of border checks and whether those procedures have been | :49:16. | :49:18. | |
tightened and as I indicated of course we have introduced the exit | :49:19. | :49:23. | |
checks. They are taking place at the various ports on exit. Those take | :49:24. | :49:28. | |
place in a variety of ways in terms of how the permission about | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
somebody's exit is being held and taken. But we have introduced those | :49:33. | :49:38. | |
checks and as I said in my statement, those checks are now | :49:39. | :49:43. | |
supporting and providing support for intelligence operations. He also | :49:44. | :49:45. | |
talked about the border system that I referred to, suggesting somehow it | :49:46. | :49:53. | |
was this Government that delayed joining the system. Actually it was | :49:54. | :49:58. | |
first proposed when the Labour Party was in Government and actually it | :49:59. | :50:01. | |
was this Government, the Coalition Government followed by this | :50:02. | :50:04. | |
Government that ensured that the UK went into it and are now able to | :50:05. | :50:12. | |
make use of it. We are of course looking across Europe and I talk | :50:13. | :50:17. | |
with my European counterparts about how we can continue to enhance its | :50:18. | :50:23. | |
use because it is an important tool. There are ways we can make use of it | :50:24. | :50:27. | |
and we are discussing those and we will be ringing those into place. We | :50:28. | :50:35. | |
do look for any necessary moves to make in order to deal with these | :50:36. | :50:45. | |
issues. You can see the counterterrorism legislation we have | :50:46. | :50:48. | |
introduced and we are continuing to do that because we recognise our | :50:49. | :50:51. | |
role and responsibility as a Government to keep people safe. May | :50:52. | :50:59. | |
I ask the Home Secretary, it seems to me that the one key issue that | :51:00. | :51:04. | |
arises from this story is whether she is satisfied that at present | :51:05. | :51:08. | |
there is an adequately rapid notification procedure between the | :51:09. | :51:13. | |
time that somebody is granted police bail including the withdrawal of | :51:14. | :51:17. | |
their passport, or for that matter in the event of somebody having | :51:18. | :51:21. | |
their passport requested that they should surrender it if they appear | :51:22. | :51:25. | |
in court. As long as those two things are now happening | :51:26. | :51:30. | |
expeditiously, I would venture to suggest that the problem being | :51:31. | :51:33. | |
talked about today is unlikely to recur through a mechanism of failure | :51:34. | :51:40. | |
of notification. I would simply add, listening to the exaggerating froth | :51:41. | :51:43. | |
coming from the opposition bench this afternoon, that the sink is | :51:44. | :51:54. | |
they -- the sink is big -- the single biggest change are the exit | :51:55. | :51:58. | |
checks. My honourable friend is right and he asks the question of | :51:59. | :52:02. | |
notification in relation to when the surrender of a passport is | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
requested. Of course because there are different powers under which | :52:08. | :52:11. | |
passports will be surrendered and different circumstances, the whole | :52:12. | :52:16. | |
process will be on a case-by-case basis. For example when a royal | :52:17. | :52:20. | |
prerogative is being exercised that will be a different process, | :52:21. | :52:24. | |
potentially, to when a decision on police bail has been undertaken when | :52:25. | :52:27. | |
it is up to the police to determine the speed with which it is necessary | :52:28. | :52:34. | |
to remove that passport. The contents of this video are utterly | :52:35. | :52:38. | |
apparent and we hope appropriate measures are taken to clarify the | :52:39. | :52:43. | |
identity of this individual as quickly and accurately as possible. | :52:44. | :52:51. | |
A reasonable and proportionate response is essential and the SNP | :52:52. | :52:55. | |
are committed to supporting all efforts to counterterrorism and work | :52:56. | :52:58. | |
to safeguard the citizens of this country. I would ask the Home | :52:59. | :53:05. | |
Secretary to tell us, if someone has a passport removed as a condition of | :53:06. | :53:08. | |
their bail, are there are additional options open to a judge in order to | :53:09. | :53:12. | |
prevent that person fleeing the country and what more could have | :53:13. | :53:16. | |
been done or can be done in similar circumstances? I thank the | :53:17. | :53:24. | |
honourable lady for her comments about the video, echoing the remarks | :53:25. | :53:27. | |
I made and the Shadow Home Secretary made about the appalling and | :53:28. | :53:31. | |
barbaric nature not just of the video but the organisation of Daesh. | :53:32. | :53:38. | |
She asks about the issues of Judge bail. Of course they'll ordered by a | :53:39. | :53:43. | |
judge, very often it will be ordered by the police, if somebody has not | :53:44. | :53:46. | |
been charged with an offence than it is the police that will determine | :53:47. | :53:52. | |
somebody's bail and they are to return on a particular date to | :53:53. | :53:56. | |
determine the conditions applied. There are of course as I have | :53:57. | :53:59. | |
indicated a number of processes whereby other measures can be taken, | :54:00. | :54:04. | |
for example if the police determine that under the new powers we have | :54:05. | :54:08. | |
introduced that passport should be temporarily removed it can be, that | :54:09. | :54:14. | |
is for further investigation and can lead to permanent removal through a | :54:15. | :54:17. | |
royal prerogative being exercised or indeed other action being taken. The | :54:18. | :54:25. | |
exercise of terrorism prevention investigatory measure can have | :54:26. | :54:29. | |
measures aimed to prevent an individual from travelling but all | :54:30. | :54:34. | |
of these decisions as to which powers should be exercised are taken | :54:35. | :54:39. | |
on a case-by-case basis. I formed an impression from media coverage which | :54:40. | :54:45. | |
may not be accurate, that a disproportionate number of violent | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
Islamist extremists are converts to the Muslim faith. Is there any basis | :54:50. | :54:55. | |
for this impression and if there is, has any analysis been done about the | :54:56. | :55:01. | |
way in which these people were converted in the first place? Well, | :55:02. | :55:08. | |
I say to my honourable friend that I'm not aware of any figures that | :55:09. | :55:11. | |
show overall what proportion of those who are jihadists have | :55:12. | :55:18. | |
previously been allied to another faith and have converted to Islam. | :55:19. | :55:22. | |
It is certainly the case that there have been reports in the press | :55:23. | :55:26. | |
obviously recently but also previously of individuals who have | :55:27. | :55:30. | |
converted to Islam. On the whole question of how people are triggered | :55:31. | :55:36. | |
into radicalisation and into terrorist activity of course, a lot | :55:37. | :55:39. | |
of work is constantly being done on that and it has been done in the | :55:40. | :55:44. | |
past. And it continues to be done. I would say that I think it's the case | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
that in most cases you will see a number of factors coming together | :55:49. | :55:52. | |
which lead to that individual becoming radicalised and potentially | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
to the point of undertaking violence. Of course what we do with | :55:57. | :56:02. | |
counter radicalisation programmes, prevent and channel particularly, is | :56:03. | :56:05. | |
aimed at stopping people who started down the route to radicalisation. | :56:06. | :56:12. | |
I'm not asking her about the vile video which she has rightly | :56:13. | :56:18. | |
condemned, the Shadow Home Secretary raised factual questions about | :56:19. | :56:23. | |
seductive door. Can she tell the house when she was told he had | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
absconded, whether she asked for an enquiry and also whether the Home | :56:29. | :56:32. | |
Office olds figures on the number of people who had scorned while on | :56:33. | :56:37. | |
police bail for terrorist offences. -- who had scorned. I indicated I | :56:38. | :56:41. | |
was not speaking about the individual named in the press. The | :56:42. | :56:47. | |
question, and I apologise because the Shadow Home Secretary did ask me | :56:48. | :56:50. | |
about the number of people who had absconded on police bail related to | :56:51. | :56:55. | |
terrorism offences, those figures are not collected, figures are | :56:56. | :56:58. | |
collected for the number of people who are convicted of failing to | :56:59. | :57:02. | |
surrender from a bail, but those are not separated into those who have | :57:03. | :57:10. | |
undertaken terrorist offences. My honourable friend has been working | :57:11. | :57:12. | |
closely with her opposite numbers within the EU, ministers of the | :57:13. | :57:19. | |
interior etc, but can she update the house on what further cooperation is | :57:20. | :57:25. | |
now taking place, given the fact that over the last six months there | :57:26. | :57:28. | |
have been a number of incidents in which his obvious -- it is office | :57:29. | :57:34. | |
that intelligence exchange has at times field. My honourable friend | :57:35. | :57:41. | |
has raised an important issue, there has been considerable progress | :57:42. | :57:46. | |
recently in looking at the exchange of information between intelligence | :57:47. | :57:50. | |
services around the EU in a variety of ways. That is looking not just at | :57:51. | :57:55. | |
takes place between intelligence takes place between intelligence | :57:56. | :57:59. | |
services, but also looking at the role of Europol in relation to this | :58:00. | :58:07. | |
and I have been speaking with my opposite number about a better | :58:08. | :58:10. | |
change of information about criminal records including terrorism offence | :58:11. | :58:14. | |
records as well. To further enhance our ability to aid and five people | :58:15. | :58:19. | |
who may pose a threat and to be able to take the appropriate action, as I | :58:20. | :58:24. | |
indicated earlier in response to the Shadow Home Secretary, were also | :58:25. | :58:29. | |
looking at how the system had been -- can be improved to ensure maximum | :58:30. | :58:32. | |
information is available and is dealt with properly. The Home | :58:33. | :58:40. | |
Secretary is aware of the fact Daesh are probably the most media savvy | :58:41. | :58:45. | |
terrorist group that ever existed. It is very welcome that through a | :58:46. | :58:51. | |
combination of the police and their partners in the industry, 1000 | :58:52. | :58:54. | |
pieces of content are taken down every week, but for 1000 pieces | :58:55. | :59:02. | |
taken down, they must be put up in the first place. Whiley on sex and | :59:03. | :59:08. | |
undertake to internet providers to monitor content going up more | :59:09. | :59:12. | |
closely so it does not get on there in the first place? -- will the Home | :59:13. | :59:18. | |
Secretary undertake. That is on board project number of initiatives | :59:19. | :59:23. | |
are taking place was that there is a dial in UK with the ISP groups but | :59:24. | :59:29. | |
in December the European Commission brought together European interior | :59:30. | :59:34. | |
ministers with representatives from some of the major internet service | :59:35. | :59:37. | |
providers to discuss these issues about how we can better prevent | :59:38. | :59:41. | |
material from getting onto the internet in the first place and | :59:42. | :59:45. | |
ensuring that material can be taken down. Here in the UK we have had a | :59:46. | :59:50. | |
long-standing view across both the previous Labour Government and this | :59:51. | :59:54. | |
Government of working with internet service providers during courage | :59:55. | :59:57. | |
then to use their terms and conditions as far as possible to | :59:58. | :00:01. | |
remove material so it is not available to promote this | :00:02. | :00:08. | |
propaganda. A key part of our counterterrorism and narrative is | :00:09. | :00:11. | |
that in the UK we respect religious freedom, making it more disturbing | :00:12. | :00:15. | |
increasing reports of a verbal and physical assault on leaders who were | :00:16. | :00:19. | |
a veil or hijab while shopping taking their children to school. Can | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
my honourable friend assured me she will carefully monitor the number of | :00:26. | :00:27. | |
such incidents and the effectiveness of the police's response. That is an | :00:28. | :00:35. | |
important point that I can assure him that do the reports do Tell Mama | :00:36. | :00:42. | |
that we monitor and look at the instances of Islamophobia that take | :00:43. | :00:46. | |
place as well as looking at the instances of anti-Semitic incidents | :00:47. | :00:52. | |
that take place. We are committed to insuring the police will now record | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
hate crime which has an Islamophobic element to it so we can get a better | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
understanding of exactly what is taking place. The Home Secretary is | :01:03. | :01:09. | |
where the terror threat was already severe, meaning the terrorist attack | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
is highly likely. In view of the content of this vile video and the | :01:15. | :01:17. | |
imminence of the first anniversary of the Charlie Hebdo attacks, it's | :01:18. | :01:22. | |
she putting in place better protection for UK media institutions | :01:23. | :01:28. | |
in citizens -- and citizens against an attack in the UK? We constantly | :01:29. | :01:33. | |
look at the measures we need to take here in the UK to protect against an | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
attack following the Charlie Hebdo attack, discussions were held by the | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
police with various media outlets to discuss with them the question of | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
their security. Of course, following the terrible attacks that took place | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
in Paris on the 13th of November last year we have overlooked at the | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
question of protective security. She is right, the current national | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
threat level is that severe, a terrorist attack is highly likely. | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
The decision as to what that threat level should be as for the | :02:09. | :02:16. | |
independent JTAC. In 2014I was grateful to the Home Secretary for | :02:17. | :02:25. | |
increasing prevent funding to Croydon Cigerci. Can she give | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
assurances she will continue those efforts to ensure that young British | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
Muslims are not tempted by the vile and sick propaganda she has rightly | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
condemned of Daesh. I can give my honourable friend that assurance and | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
taken a number of steps both English and to an uplift in prevent funding | :02:45. | :02:48. | |
that is taking place and also an important step we took is putting | :02:49. | :02:53. | |
the Prevent a duty on a statutory basis. Everything I've heard that is | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
already having an impact out there and ensuring that increasingly those | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
in the public sector and come into contact with young people and | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
others, particularly young people, are looking to spot the signs when | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
they can see somebody may be being taken down the route of | :03:11. | :03:12. | |
radicalisation and appropriate action being taken. The house will, | :03:13. | :03:21. | |
of course, understand and accept the Home Secretary's concerns about | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
interfering in what is a live police investigation but she must accept, | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
surely, the information that has already been put in the public | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
domain risks undermining public confidence in the police bail system | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
and some time, either by her or somebody in the bullies serviced | :03:40. | :03:41. | |
today or some other time, they are to give the information to the | :03:42. | :03:49. | |
public. -- in the police service. To ensure them that this is not a | :03:50. | :03:56. | |
result of the police system. The videos are abhorrent and horrific, | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
but they are merely the symptom of the wider disease of radicalisation. | :04:01. | :04:05. | |
It is believed by many people that the radicalisation recess is funded | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
from sources in Saudi Arabia. Will she undertake to investigate whether | :04:12. | :04:19. | |
that is the case and if it is, then undertake to do what is necessary to | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
stop of that source of funding? The honourable gentleman raises an | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
important point about looking at the source of funding for extremism and | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
terrorism here in the UK. There is a civic piece of work which we will be | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
undertaking that makes a civic. The Prime Minister referred to it when | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
he gave his statements to the house in November in relation to Syria. We | :04:43. | :04:47. | |
are going to do a piece of work to the extremism analysis unit that had | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
been set up in the Home Office looking specifically at the question | :04:51. | :04:58. | |
of funding extremism here in the UK. I appreciate the work of the | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
security services and the police in dealing with counterterrorism. | :05:04. | :05:05. | |
Clearly a great deal of our emphasis will be placed on overseas issues | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
and the security within the capital, can Home Secretary confirmed that | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
she is confident enough counterterrorism work is being done | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
to ensure the safety and security of the British people in other cities | :05:18. | :05:24. | |
and towns up and down the country? I hope I can reassure my honourable | :05:25. | :05:30. | |
friend by saying that following the counterterrorism units existing not | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
just in the capital, but in regional unit elsewhere in the UK, and I can | :05:35. | :05:40. | |
assure him that following the Paris attacks in November of last year, a | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
piece of work has been started and we are finessing that in relation to | :05:46. | :05:53. | |
particularly on response -- armed police response across the UK to | :05:54. | :05:55. | |
ensure we have the appropriate numbers of armed and trained | :05:56. | :06:02. | |
officers in the right places. The Home Secretary has formed when it | :06:03. | :06:09. | |
comes to funding, Gucci update has as to the whereabouts of Abraham | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
McGraw who absconded in January 2013? And could she update has is to | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
be whereabouts of Mohammed at Major Mohammed who absconded wearing a | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
burger in November 20 13. Both of whom were on terrorist prevention | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
orders under the instruction of the Home Secretary at the time? -- | :06:29. | :06:40. | |
wearing a bra cup. -- a burqa. Under him seven people absconded, or the | :06:41. | :06:49. | |
-- only one of whom has ever been found. There is enhanced funding for | :06:50. | :06:56. | |
these cutie services but I also at the point of my honourable friend | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
that those resources are going into our original towns and cities and | :07:01. | :07:03. | |
armed response unit and not just the capital? The piece of work we are | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
undertaking as I indicated in response to my honourable friend is | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
to look across the country as to what is appropriate in terms of | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
armed response availability and response times in relation to that | :07:16. | :07:21. | |
and there will be enhanced with an uplift in the number of armed | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
response officers within the police. As I say, the exercise is being | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
undertaken to look at precisely how that should be done, where the | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
officers should be, but it is not the case it is only looking at | :07:34. | :07:39. | |
London. Can I thank the Home Secretary for yet again this evening | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
inserting clear blue water between our fellow Muslim countrymen and | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
those who are extremist and involved in terrorism in this country. With | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
that in mind, to reinforce that does the Secretary of State accept it | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
would be better again to pursue counter extremism and terrorism | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
across this country, irrespective of geographic location, race or creed | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
and are there any aspect of the counter extremism that that could be | :08:10. | :08:12. | |
operated in Northern Ireland? I thank the honourable gentleman for | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
the confidence he has shown in the counter extremism strategy we have | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
developed and work towards developing an counter extremism. We | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
have had discussions with devolved administrations as to how the | :08:27. | :08:29. | |
counterterrorism strategy should apply in those parts of the UK, | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
particularly in Northern Ireland and Scotland. There is already of course | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
work undertaken in Northern Ireland in a separate strand of action that | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
has been shown to be a valuable work that is being undertaken in Northern | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
Ireland as he will be aware, just at the counter extremism strategy | :08:50. | :08:52. | |
itself being developed is not applying to Northern Ireland. | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
Internet-based propaganda does a huge amount of radicalisation and | :08:58. | :09:03. | |
brainwashing of people living in the UK into planning atrocities or | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
travelling abroad. As my honourable friend agree the additional | :09:07. | :09:09. | |
resources invested into our security services, including GCHQ in my | :09:10. | :09:15. | |
constituency, significantly enhances our ability to hunt this material | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
down and move it? My honourable friend is absolutely right. I think | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
it is important we have enhanced the resources going into our security | :09:27. | :09:29. | |
and intelligence agencies. He has a particular interest in GCHQ given | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
his constituency. The work they do there is very important. Of course, | :09:35. | :09:41. | |
because of not just the issue of information and intelligence that | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
might be helpful in relation to counterterrorism, but of course, the | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
work they do in countering the cyber threat and cyber security threat we | :09:49. | :09:54. | |
face. Many in Waltham Forest are extremely shocked there is a | :09:55. | :09:59. | |
possibility someone who lived in our community could be involved in | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
atrocities and they would want me to make it clear we do not consider | :10:03. | :10:08. | |
he's directing our or Islam and we condemn utterly has ideas of action. | :10:09. | :10:15. | |
-- we do not consider he represents our community for that there's | :10:16. | :10:17. | |
growing kids out of individuals and families unfairly caught up in the | :10:18. | :10:21. | |
necessary activities to keep our country safe. Will she meet with me | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
and other MPs accepting the UK citizens who have been denied the | :10:26. | :10:28. | |
right to travel to discuss there is and how we can reassure them that | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
efforts to tackle terrorism are based on good intelligence and | :10:33. | :10:34. | |
effective partnership, not prejudice? Firstly, can I thank the | :10:35. | :10:42. | |
honourable lady for the remarks she made about her consistency in | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
Waltham Forest and the condemnation of her constituents for the barbaric | :10:47. | :10:51. | |
activities of Daesh and anyone involved in those barbaric | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
activities. She asked me about the question of those who have been | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
denied the opportunity to travel through the exercise of the world | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
prerogative. I'm sure if she has particular cases she wishes to | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
bring, the security minister would be happy to meet with her. I have to | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
say, on the one hand her front bench are encouraging us to exercise | :11:12. | :11:17. | |
greater powers and make greater use of the prevention of people from | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
travelling while she is indicating concern about it. They often get | :11:21. | :11:21. | |
their story straight. One of the chilling aspects of the | :11:22. | :11:32. | |
latest Daesh video is the exploitation of a young child and on | :11:33. | :11:36. | |
the issue of radicalising children, I wonder what progress has been made | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
between the Home Secretary and Secretary of State for Education to | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
ensure that madrasahs are registered and even unregistered ones are | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
monitored to safeguard our national way of life. Well, we have been | :11:50. | :11:56. | |
working with the Department Farage in and the Secretary of State has | :11:57. | :12:05. | |
been developing a scheme for registering madrasahs. -- the | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
Department for Education. It is actually underway in relation to | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
that issue. My honourable friend raises an issue which concerns | :12:14. | :12:19. | |
people about children involved in Daesh in Iraq and Syria and those | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
children who may be being taken away by their families and taken abroad | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
to that environment. It is the case that in the last year there have | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
been a significant number of instances where court powers were | :12:33. | :12:35. | |
used to prevent families from going abroad. This is simply a | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
safeguarding issue and local authorities are increasingly looking | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
at the issue and taking action. When was the Home Secretary told that | :12:47. | :12:53. | |
Siddhartha Dhar had reached -- breached his police bail conditions | :12:54. | :12:56. | |
and what actions did she take as a consequence? I have been asked this | :12:57. | :13:03. | |
question before and indicated that I'm not giving any indication in the | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
Chamber today about particular individuals. It is the case that | :13:08. | :13:15. | |
decisions on police bail are taken by the police and they decide the | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
conditions of police bail and that is as it always has been. Many of my | :13:20. | :13:28. | |
constituents tell me that they are not particularly perturbed by | :13:29. | :13:34. | |
extremists leaving the country but very perturbed about them coming | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
into the country and I wonder what the Home Secretary is doing to | :13:40. | :13:42. | |
ensure that they are not allowed back into the country whether they | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
are British citizens or not. We have taken a number of increased powers | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
in relation to people who may be coming in to do us harm. We put the | :13:53. | :13:58. | |
no-fly scheme on a statutory basis in legislation passed early last | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
year. We also introduced in the same legislation the new temporary | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
exclusion orders enabling us to manage the return of individuals of | :14:09. | :14:10. | |
concern where they are British citizens and cannot be rendered | :14:11. | :14:18. | |
stateless. But that is undertaken on a case-by-case basis. We also | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
enhanced the ability of the Government to remove British | :14:23. | :14:29. | |
citizens -- citizenship from those who might be in a position of having | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
alternative citizenship so that we have increased our ability to remove | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
citizenship where there is a concern about the threat they may have do | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
the United Kingdom. Further to the question about the Shadow Home | :14:44. | :14:52. | |
Secretary, can she confirm what increase she has made in border | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
force staff to enable her to carry out full exit controls and when do | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
she planned to have controls for those people that are returning and | :15:03. | :15:05. | |
what implication will it have and how will she look after the issue of | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
biometric passports when people are returning on that basis? If I could | :15:12. | :15:17. | |
perhaps, I hope for the help of the House, the benefit of the House, | :15:18. | :15:20. | |
there are assumptions about exit checks and the way they are | :15:21. | :15:25. | |
undertaken which are inaccurate. It is not the case that every check | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
will be undertaken by a Member of border force staff checking | :15:30. | :15:32. | |
somebody's passport as they go through a point of exit, a lot of | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
the information is gathered electronically and is therefore not | :15:37. | :15:41. | |
necessary for border force staff to be evident to undertake that. -- to | :15:42. | :15:49. | |
be available. As well as online propaganda, much planning takes | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
place on the Internet for modern terrorism. She mentions the | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
investigatory Powers Bill, is she determined to come to a workable | :15:58. | :16:00. | |
arrangement with major Internet companies to ensure there is no safe | :16:01. | :16:07. | |
space online to plot terror? Absolutely, we continue discussions | :16:08. | :16:13. | |
with Internet companies on a variety of aspects, not least the | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
forthcoming investigatory Powers Bill and the elements within that. | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
It is important to work with Internet service providers who have | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
a key role to play in this area, both in relation to propaganda that | :16:27. | :16:29. | |
can appear on their systems, and also of course in relation to the | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
response that they give to voluntary requests from the authorities. The | :16:34. | :16:41. | |
Home Secretary will be aware of my concerns for exit checks following a | :16:42. | :16:44. | |
situation where an individual was able to travel with a passport to | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
Syria from my own constituency. Can she be absolutely clear about exit | :16:50. | :16:53. | |
checks, are all individuals leaving the UK through a port of exit by | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
commercial means being checked electronic we at the point of exit | :16:58. | :17:02. | |
on their passport, yes or no? And if not why is it not considered? As I | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
have indicated, the way in which information is being taken varies | :17:09. | :17:14. | |
from Port of exit Duport of exit depending on how they are | :17:15. | :17:21. | |
travelling, flights information is available to authorities as it has | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
been for some time and they're rather specific swipes passports | :17:27. | :17:29. | |
being taken elsewhere. All of the information is being held | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
electronically. Does my honourable friend agree that it was quite right | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
to conduct a review of the convention before adopting it before | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
Christmas and the she agreed that cases like the one discussed today | :17:46. | :17:51. | |
show that was the right decision? I think my honourable friend is right | :17:52. | :17:58. | |
to point out that it was sensible to look at the proper business case for | :17:59. | :18:03. | |
going in so that we weren't making a decision Macedon no evidence. It was | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
clear that there were advantages. -- based on no evidence. The | :18:10. | :18:12. | |
overwhelming majority of the house supported it and indeed it is right | :18:13. | :18:20. | |
and will be a valuable tool. I'm not asking about the correctness of the | :18:21. | :18:24. | |
decision to bail Siddhartha Dhar but what I would like to know is did the | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
Home Secretary learn from Home Office officials, the police or the | :18:29. | :18:36. | |
media that he absconded? I think there is somehow somewhere at you on | :18:37. | :18:39. | |
the opposition benches that the Home Secretary spends all their time | :18:40. | :18:45. | |
scouring the media or indeed anything else for the looking at | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
individual cases. What I would say to the honourable lady is simply | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
this, as I have said earlier, decisions as to whether somebody | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
should be put on police bail are operational matters for the police. | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
I receive regular security briefings from the police and from the | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
security and intelligence agencies on individuals of concern and an | :19:10. | :19:18. | |
high priority cases. I welcome what the Home Secretary has said about | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
the Government 's work to stop Daesh poisoning the minds of young people | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
with their perverted ideology. Will she join with me in praising | :19:26. | :19:31. | |
community groups across the UK including Building Bridges in Pendle | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
for their great work on interfaith cohesion. Across the UK there are | :19:37. | :19:43. | |
many groups working very carefully and hard within communities to build | :19:44. | :19:50. | |
bridges within their communities and I commend the organisation that he | :19:51. | :19:56. | |
mention. One of the elements of the counter extremism strategy is to | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
find ways in which we can help those community groups to further enhance | :20:02. | :20:04. | |
the work they are doing to increase their voice so that it is a | :20:05. | :20:13. | |
mainstream voice that is heard. I think the House and maybe even the | :20:14. | :20:16. | |
public might be interested to know what interest the Home Secretary | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
thinks she is protecting by refusing to tell us when she was advised that | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
Siddhartha Dhar had absconded and whether not she did anything about | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
it. I am not protecting any interests. Rubbish!! That's | :20:35. | :20:45. | |
outrageous! Daesh represents such a serious threat because of their | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
widespread use of technology and social media to radicalise people in | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
their bedrooms on their smartphones, covertly but compellingly, sadly. | :20:55. | :20:58. | |
Does she agree that security services and police need special | :20:59. | :21:05. | |
powers to collect Internet connection records, bulk | :21:06. | :21:08. | |
communication data, to protect the nation 's security and stay ahead of | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
terrorists in this complex environment. I think my honourable | :21:13. | :21:19. | |
friend has put her point extremely well. She is absolutely right. It is | :21:20. | :21:25. | |
important that we are able to access Internet connection records and we | :21:26. | :21:28. | |
are able to have the powers which of course we are hoping to introduce in | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
the investigatory Powers Bill. It is right for the Government to | :21:34. | :21:36. | |
continually look to see what further measures we need to take to enhance | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
the powers of police and intelligence agencies to keep us a | :21:41. | :21:43. | |
fan that is exactly what we're doing. -- to keep us safe and that | :21:44. | :21:53. | |
is exactly what we are doing. Can the Home Secretary let us know when | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
we will finally have the counter extremism strategy. I'm not able to | :21:59. | :22:01. | |
give an absolute date for the honourable lady, but we hope to be | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
in the position... The counter extremism strategy has actually been | :22:07. | :22:10. | |
published but we are looking at the question of the legislation that we | :22:11. | :22:13. | |
would undertake through that and of course the work of Louise Casey | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
doing specific workaround cohesion in communities. That won't be | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
available for some weeks, potentially months because the work | :22:23. | :22:25. | |
is ongoing. And I would hope to be able to update the house soon in | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
relation to large as that of proposals. Statement the Secretary | :22:30. | :22:36. | |
of State for environment, food and rural affairs. Secretary Liz Truss. | :22:37. | :22:51. | |
Thank you, colleagues. With permission, Mr Speaker, I would like | :22:52. | :23:00. | |
to make a statement about the impact of storm Eva which brought flooding | :23:01. | :23:05. | |
to the north of England between Christmas and the New Year. I want | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
to express my deepest sympathy for all of those affected across the UK. | :23:10. | :23:16. | |
The Prime Minister, ministers and I have visited the affected towns and | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
communities and seen for ourselves the terrible impact that the | :23:21. | :23:23. | |
flooding has had on homes and businesses in Lancashire and | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
Yorkshire. I would like to pay tribute to the tireless work of the | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
emergency services, the military, the Environment Agency, council | :23:33. | :23:38. | |
workers, and other responders and volunteers. Many have not had time | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
with their families over Christmas, and we have seen people come from as | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
far afield as Norfolk and Somerset. The Met office confirmed today that | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
we have had the wettest December in a century. In fact the North West | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
face the wettest December on record. Later in the month rain fell on | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
saturated ground. Meaning that all of the rivers in Lancashire were at | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
record levels and Yorkshire rivers like the River Ayr and River wharf | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
world to a higher they have ever been. This resulted in the flooding | :24:12. | :24:18. | |
of around 9000 properties which together with earlier flooding in | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
Cumbria brings the total to around 16,000 flooded properties in | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
England. Whilst of little consolation to those who have been | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
flooded, it's important to note that flood defences have protected over | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
20,000 properties. In order to deal with the forecast rainfall I | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
convened Cobra Mora on the 23rd of December and on Christmas Day. -- I | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
convened Cobra meetings. The Environment Agency and the army work | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
through the night to employ temporary defences, rescue boats and | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
pumps whilst warning and informing residents. On Boxing Day I chaired a | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
further Cobra meeting to assess the impact and ensure that local | :25:05. | :25:07. | |
responders were receiving all of the support required to deal with the | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
situation on this scale and gravity. That day I travelled to Yorkshire | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
and Lancashire with the Chief Executive of the Environment Agency | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
James Bevan, to ensure that all that could be done was being done. The | :25:22. | :25:27. | |
Prime Minister chaired Cobra on the 27th of December and visited | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
Yorkshire. Around 600 military personnel were deployed in support | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
of the operations with a further 1000 on stand-by. | :25:36. | :25:42. | |
The RAAF played a vital role in preparing the defences and using | :25:43. | :25:52. | |
each in a helicopter. Since birdie past, our focus has been doing | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
everything we can to help Yorkshire and Lancashire get back up and | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
running. The Prime Minister announced that ?40,000 would be | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
spent on repairing defences including ?10 million upgrading the | :26:07. | :26:09. | |
Foss barrier with new pumps to ensure it can cope with higher | :26:10. | :26:13. | |
volumes of water. We are providing ?60 million of help for local | :26:14. | :26:20. | |
residents, businesses, and farmers. This help has been provided in | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
record time. Storm Eva took place on the 26th of December and we make the | :26:26. | :26:31. | |
first payments to local authorities on the 29th of December, so they can | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
help businesses and residents straightaway. The speedy repair of | :26:36. | :26:42. | |
the Tadcaster bridge is a national priority. Once we have identified a | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
solution, the funding needed will be provided promptly. The Transport | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
Minister and flood recovery envoy for Yorkshire is convening a meeting | :26:52. | :26:57. | |
with local authorities, wider local representatives, and highways | :26:58. | :26:58. | |
England experts in the coming days, England experts in the coming days, | :26:59. | :27:02. | |
with the aim of finalising a plan early next week that can be put | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
immediately into action. This will complement the work of the floods | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
minister and floods envoy to Cumbria and Lancashire. Work is already | :27:11. | :27:16. | |
under way on a six-year programme to upgrade flood defences. This | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
investment of ?2.3 billion is a real terms increase on what was spent in | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
the last parliament, which itself is a real terms increase on what was | :27:26. | :27:33. | |
spent between 2005 and 2010. This includes ?280 million in Yorkshire | :27:34. | :27:40. | |
and ?120 million in Lancashire. In January 2015, work commenced on a | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
new ?33 million scheme to protect the centre of Leeds. Projects for | :27:46. | :27:51. | |
the Humber, and Calderdale are in the pipeline. In the light of recent | :27:52. | :27:56. | |
events, we have commenced a national flood resilience review. To ensure | :27:57. | :28:02. | |
the country can deal with increasingly extreme weather events. | :28:03. | :28:04. | |
This review will look at forecasting and modelling, resilience of key | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
infrastructure, and the way we make decisions about flood expenditure. | :28:11. | :28:13. | |
In particular, we will ensure that the needs scheme would cope with the | :28:14. | :28:18. | |
new levels of rainfall we are now seeing. -- the Leeds scheme. The | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
work of the natural committee, to which I have reappointed the chair, | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
will complement this. It will further develop the catchment -based | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
approach we are now using for our environment planning including | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
slowing the flow upstream. Mr Speaker, I am sure that the whole | :28:39. | :28:41. | |
house would join me in expressing our sincere sympathy to those who | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
have been affected by these extreme weather conditions and subsequent | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
flooding. The Government will continue to do what it takes to get | :28:52. | :28:55. | |
these areas and running and prepare for future events. I commend this | :28:56. | :29:04. | |
statement to the house. I thank the Secretary of State for her statement | :29:05. | :29:10. | |
and I join her in paying tribute to the emergency services, the Armed | :29:11. | :29:13. | |
Forces, and of course the efforts of the many staff at the Environment | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
Agency and local authorities who came back from their lead over the | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
festive period and the many, many volunteers that came to help. Last | :29:22. | :29:28. | |
week, I visited the constituencies of York and Halifax. It is difficult | :29:29. | :29:32. | |
to convey the devastation that we see in these communities, but our | :29:33. | :29:37. | |
sympathy is not enough. The urgent priority is to ensure that people | :29:38. | :29:40. | |
have a roof over their heads, can return to their own homes as soon as | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
possible, and businesses, schools and other local services can reopen | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
as soon as possible, and that the infrastructure is repaired and | :29:49. | :29:50. | |
restored, but Mr Speaker, each time this happens, we are issued that the | :29:51. | :29:55. | |
Government will learn the lesson, so I have if you questions for the | :29:56. | :29:59. | |
Secretary of State. Was utilised by the Government choose to ignore | :30:00. | :30:01. | |
warnings from the committee on climate change that it needed a | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
strategy for the increasing number of homes that flood risk and the | :30:06. | :30:07. | |
warning from the Association of local authorities that the cuts had | :30:08. | :30:11. | |
put homes and businesses at risk, what action should did in October | :30:12. | :30:14. | |
after Professor Colin Mellors warned that the authorities in Yorkshire | :30:15. | :30:17. | |
would have to look where to discontinue maintenance because of | :30:18. | :30:21. | |
cuts? Flood hit communities will want to know where the national | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
resilience review was not instigated, and how is the public to | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
have confidence in another Cabinet committee chaired by the Right | :30:30. | :30:33. | |
Honourable member for West Dorset? What happened to his last one, which | :30:34. | :30:36. | |
was set up to the Somerset floods, and then disappeared? Does she agree | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
that it needs to be an independent review to have any credibility? If | :30:41. | :30:46. | |
flood protections are a priority, why did the Coalition Government set | :30:47. | :30:50. | |
up to cut flood spending by 10%? And why is this Government spending less | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
this year than in 2010, when as was warned, year-on-year, real increases | :30:55. | :31:00. | |
are needed to keep up with the growing risk? The Secretary of State | :31:01. | :31:04. | |
has told us repeatedly about the ?3.2 billion capital budget over the | :31:05. | :31:08. | |
next six years. Is she satisfied it takes into account the impact of | :31:09. | :31:11. | |
previous capital comes to such schemes on that it is enough given | :31:12. | :31:15. | |
all that the Government has underestimated the climate change | :31:16. | :31:18. | |
risk and will she finally addressed the revenue budget? We still have no | :31:19. | :31:23. | |
firm commitment on maintenance spending and on protecting an | :31:24. | :31:26. | |
inadequate budget. The Secretary of State is hoping to step over a 2.5 | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
billion hole in the maintenance budget. If the Government going to | :31:32. | :31:34. | |
commit to investigate owing pounds per year on the maintenance and | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
strengthening of flood defences the environment has said is required to | :31:39. | :31:41. | |
protect our communities? Every ?1 spent on flood protection saves ?8. | :31:42. | :31:47. | |
The Secretary of State needs to remind the Chancellor of this. I | :31:48. | :31:50. | |
know that the Secretary of State .net in the EU Solidarity fund and | :31:51. | :31:53. | |
that I would be grateful if you would clarify why the Government has | :31:54. | :31:59. | |
not so far applied to this. The natural environment must be central | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
to any efforts to reduce flooding, but I'm yet to be convinced that the | :32:03. | :32:06. | |
Government has undertaken a complete rethink the Environment Agency has | :32:07. | :32:09. | |
said that we need and I would be grateful if she could tell us more | :32:10. | :32:11. | |
about how she will work the land owners and managers for those | :32:12. | :32:15. | |
upstream measures that are so badly needed. Rather than a sticking | :32:16. | :32:19. | |
plaster response every time the floods hit, with vague promises and | :32:20. | :32:23. | |
random numbers that are forgotten by spring, we need a long-term, | :32:24. | :32:27. | |
coordinated approach. Our priority must be making sure the community in | :32:28. | :32:30. | |
flood risk areas across the whole country do not injure another | :32:31. | :32:32. | |
Christmas like this one and that needs leadership from her now. The | :32:33. | :32:38. | |
Secretary of State. First of all, can I say that we have learned | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
lessons from previous flooding incidents. That is why we were | :32:43. | :32:48. | |
holding meetings of COBRA through Christmas. That is why we deploy the | :32:49. | :32:51. | |
army immediately to support people on the ground and that is why we | :32:52. | :32:57. | |
made sure that people's homes and lives where protected. That is why | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
we made sure that 85% of all of the temporary flood assets were deployed | :33:02. | :33:06. | |
in Yorkshire and Lancashire, in the immediate rescue effort. That was | :33:07. | :33:09. | |
extremely important. We have also learned the lessons in terms of | :33:10. | :33:13. | |
supporting communities, supporting those people who've been out of | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
their houses, and I saw for myself the devastation, I saw the Christmas | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
presents by the side of the street, I saw the very difficult | :33:23. | :33:25. | |
circumstances people were in, and that is why, within three days, we | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
had money in the local authority's bank accounts so they could help | :33:31. | :33:33. | |
those communities get back on their feet. The honourable lady talks | :33:34. | :33:39. | |
about long-term. The fact is, under the Labour Government, there was an | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
annual budget process for flood defence spending. They spent ?1.5 | :33:44. | :33:51. | |
billion when they were in Government between 2005 and 2010. We are | :33:52. | :33:54. | |
spending ?2 billion over the course of this Parliament and for the first | :33:55. | :33:57. | |
time ever, we have set out a long-term programme of six years so | :33:58. | :34:03. | |
those communities can have the security they need. That is why we | :34:04. | :34:08. | |
are already building new flood defences in Leeds. That is why we | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
are already planting trees right across the country to help slow the | :34:13. | :34:18. | |
flow, but these things do take long-term decision-making, and they | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
also take adequate funding. It is the fact that this Government has a | :34:22. | :34:24. | |
long-term economic plan that we have been able to invest in our flood | :34:25. | :34:30. | |
defences that means we are able to lay out the long-term programme, and | :34:31. | :34:33. | |
the honourable lady asked about maintenance spending will stop we | :34:34. | :34:38. | |
are increasing that in real terms. The Chancellor announced that in the | :34:39. | :34:43. | |
Autumn Statement. It is ?171 million. It will go up in real | :34:44. | :34:47. | |
terms, and what we are also doing is empowering local communities, so we | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
have set up the Somerset Rivers authority, which the community | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
secretary has given shadow presetting powers to. We're working | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
on a Cumbrian partnership as well to make sure the local community are | :35:01. | :35:03. | |
involved, but we are taking a long-term approach to dealing with | :35:04. | :35:08. | |
these problems, rather than short-term point-scoring. The fact | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
is that we have responded to this emergency very rapidly. We have | :35:14. | :35:15. | |
learned the lessons from the past. People are now able to get those | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
funds to repair their homes and get back into their homes and that is | :35:22. | :35:30. | |
what is important. Mr Nigel Adams. I am very grateful to the Secretary of | :35:31. | :35:34. | |
State and indeed the floods minister, the community secretary, | :35:35. | :35:38. | |
and the Prime Minister, or visiting my district following the dreadful | :35:39. | :35:40. | |
floods and offering their help and support. She suffered herself last | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
week the aftermath of the partial collapse of Tadcaster Bridge. I am | :35:46. | :35:49. | |
delighted that she has again reiterated that this replacement and | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
repair is a national priority. I have been in regular contact with | :35:55. | :35:58. | |
North Yorkshire County Council. They had been considering all options for | :35:59. | :36:03. | |
a temporary solution across the river. Will she joined me in urging | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
highways to ensure is solution is put in place as a matter of urgency, | :36:08. | :36:11. | |
and make sure that North Yorkshire County Council and highways have all | :36:12. | :36:15. | |
the necessary funding to do this, and that they also have the funding | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
to start the repair of the collapsed bridge which may apparently take up | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
to a year without delay so that the residents of East and West Tadcaster | :36:24. | :36:29. | |
are reunited? Well, I thank my friend Mike for his question and can | :36:30. | :36:32. | |
I pay tribute to him for all of the work that he has done in supporting | :36:33. | :36:37. | |
his local community in Tadcaster. I visited local businesses with him. | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
We saw the army, who had been there to help out. We saw a massive group | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
of volunteers as well helping out at Tadcaster. I know people in the town | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
are desperate to put the town together again so people can cross | :36:50. | :36:52. | |
over into the other part of the town. It is an absolute priority for | :36:53. | :36:57. | |
the Government. The flood envoys sitting here on the front bench. He | :36:58. | :37:01. | |
is charged with coming up with a plan early next week to make sure | :37:02. | :37:05. | |
that we get the bridge in place as soon as possible. Mr Calum Kerr. | :37:06. | :37:14. | |
Banking, Mr Speaker. First of all, I would like to also paid tribute to | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
the emergency services, volunteers, local authorities, and others who | :37:19. | :37:20. | |
worked tirelessly over the holiday period to protect homes and help | :37:21. | :37:24. | |
families left devastated by the floods. Scotland was, of course, | :37:25. | :37:29. | |
extremely hard hit, although my SNP colleagues, and I truly appreciate, | :37:30. | :37:36. | |
that devastation was caused across the UK and our sympathies are with | :37:37. | :37:40. | |
everyone who was affected. The Scottish Government takes flood | :37:41. | :37:43. | |
prevention very seriously. As we have seen, though, exceptional | :37:44. | :37:46. | |
rainfall still presents huge challenges. The reduced financial | :37:47. | :37:51. | |
award made to Scotland by this Government has forced ministers in | :37:52. | :37:54. | |
Edinburgh to make difficult decisions. As a result of these | :37:55. | :38:00. | |
cutbacks, Grant and aid provided to the Scottish Environmental | :38:01. | :38:03. | |
Protection Agency has been reduced by 6%. However, Scottish ministers | :38:04. | :38:07. | |
have ensured that the flood forecasting service, which is | :38:08. | :38:17. | |
undertaken by CIPA, has had its funding protected in its entirety. | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
It has also made crystal clear that flood prevention is not a CIPA | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
responsibility. North of the border, local authorities have | :38:27. | :38:29. | |
responsibility for this as part of their settlement. Councils have | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
historically received strong support from the Scottish Government. The | :38:35. | :38:38. | |
flood management act was passed by the Scottish parliament in 2009, and | :38:39. | :38:44. | |
a further 42 pretension -- protection schemes are now proposed | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
on top of the current 21. On top of this, and extra foam brilliant | :38:50. | :38:51. | |
pounds has been directed to prevent flooding. -- an extra ?4 million. | :38:52. | :38:58. | |
All in all, this is the competence All in all, this is the competence | :38:59. | :39:01. | |
of response. Now, there are certainly seems to be... As the | :39:02. | :39:09. | |
third party, you are entitled to make a statement, and we have so far | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
heard no mention of Scotland. All in all, it is a copper heads of | :39:14. | :39:16. | |
response, and there certainly seems to be less scepticism about the | :39:17. | :39:22. | |
actions of the agency in Scotland than we have seen in England. At the | :39:23. | :39:26. | |
weekend, I received an e-mail from my cousin Kirsty who lives in | :39:27. | :39:31. | |
Yorkshire. She told me her community felt angry and powerless at what it | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
sees as a completely ineffective response. She said to me that the | :39:36. | :39:41. | |
Tory Government had completely failed them and she believes they | :39:42. | :39:46. | |
will continue to feel her. If it is not in London or the Home Counties, | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
they don't care. That is not the response felt in Scotland. Order, | :39:52. | :39:57. | |
order! Let me try to help the honourable gentleman. Two points. I | :39:58. | :40:02. | |
am being very fair-minded about it. First, representing the third party, | :40:03. | :40:05. | |
the honourable gentleman certainly does has and rightly has longer than | :40:06. | :40:10. | |
backbenchers. That has always been the case and it will always be the | :40:11. | :40:14. | |
case and I will protect his rights and those of his colleagues. | :40:15. | :40:18. | |
Secondly, I know use it as a figure of speech, he does not have a right | :40:19. | :40:24. | |
to make a statement, as he puts it. What he has a right to do a slightly | :40:25. | :40:27. | |
greater length than his colleagues is to mix of opening remarks by way | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
of response to the Secretary of State. But that does need to be | :40:32. | :40:35. | |
followed speedily by a series of questions and all of that needs to | :40:36. | :40:39. | |
take, I think, no more than two minutes. Antique is considerably | :40:40. | :40:47. | |
longer than that. These are very sensitive matters and I have no | :40:48. | :40:52. | |
desire to Spall -- to spoil the honourable gentleman is my | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
responsibility today -- opportunity today, but he does need to get to | :40:58. | :41:02. | |
the point. Thank you very much, Mr Speaker, for the guidance. It is | :41:03. | :41:11. | |
appreciated. Friends of the Earth Scotland is one organisation that | :41:12. | :41:14. | |
agrees that flood prevention is a higher priority north of the border. | :41:15. | :41:22. | |
I would ask if the Secretary of State could reflect on the Scottish | :41:23. | :41:29. | |
experience and the comprehensive approach to flood prevention and if | :41:30. | :41:34. | |
there are lessons learned for her. Will she ensure my cousin Kirsty and | :41:35. | :41:37. | |
communities like hers that this Government really does care. As the | :41:38. | :41:46. | |
House is aware this is a devolved matter and we have been working very | :41:47. | :41:49. | |
closely with the Scottish authorities to make sure that we | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
share information and expertise while this is happening. We are | :41:54. | :42:00. | |
doing all we can to help the people of Yorkshire get back on their feet | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
as soon as the, and that is why the financial support was made available | :42:06. | :42:08. | |
within three days of the flooding taking place. I wonder what the | :42:09. | :42:19. | |
record is in Scotland. In paying tribute to the emergency services, | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
the army and Environment Agency, York City Council and the huge | :42:24. | :42:27. | |
number of volunteers but the speed in which they acted and work | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
together in New York at what was a difficult time to the City. Other | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
utilities were slower to react, such as telecommunications that went down | :42:37. | :42:39. | |
in your and hinder communications across the City. -- down in York. | :42:40. | :42:51. | |
What will she do to ensure that other utilities react speedily? Can | :42:52. | :42:56. | |
I pay tribute to my honourable friend for the work he has done and | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
it was good to meet him at the Environment Agency's headquarters in | :43:01. | :43:12. | |
New -- in York. Such as the Tadcaster Bridge, it carries | :43:13. | :43:14. | |
critical communications infrastructure. DCM S, part of | :43:15. | :43:20. | |
Cobra, and we have expedited getting services backed up and running. My | :43:21. | :43:30. | |
constituency and neighbouring constituencies were devastated by | :43:31. | :43:34. | |
the Boxing Day floods. Would the Secretary of State join me in | :43:35. | :43:37. | |
thanking the army of volunteers that came to help and played an | :43:38. | :43:41. | |
instrumental role in the clear up and also agreed to meet with me and | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
representatives from the council to discuss as we have mentioned those | :43:47. | :43:51. | |
bridges and infrastructure projects that are now essential. I thank the | :43:52. | :43:59. | |
honourable lady and she is right, the valley was badly affected. We do | :44:00. | :44:06. | |
have schemes in the pipeline for Hebden Bridge and I will look to | :44:07. | :44:10. | |
make sure that they are sufficient as part of the review we are | :44:11. | :44:14. | |
conducting. The Transport Secretary is conducting a review of all of the | :44:15. | :44:18. | |
affected infrastructure to make sure we get back on track. The honourable | :44:19. | :44:25. | |
lady can rest assured that Elland is on the list. Hebden Bridge and | :44:26. | :44:38. | |
others are communities hit by floods but in some cases decimated by | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
floods and this is just three and a half years after the last floods. | :44:43. | :44:48. | |
Over 2000 homes have been hit. As my noble friend has said, will the | :44:49. | :44:52. | |
Secretary of State join with us in paying a huge tribute to not just | :44:53. | :44:56. | |
the dozens of volunteers but the hundreds of volunteers who came from | :44:57. | :45:03. | |
all over the UK. In light of the current undertones of Islamophobia | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
in our country pay a special tribute to the small armies of young Asian | :45:09. | :45:18. | |
men and women, Muslim, Sikh and Hindu who came with all sorts and | :45:19. | :45:22. | |
played a huge part in the recovery process. I thank my honourable | :45:23. | :45:27. | |
friend for his question and we talked on Boxing Day because of | :45:28. | :45:34. | |
course it was such a hard-hit area. Making sure that we have the right | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
support in place for those communities was vitally important. | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
He is absolutely right to highlight the community spirit that we saw | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
right across Yorkshire and the colder valley. And all of the people | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
that came from around the country. It has been tremendous and I praise | :45:52. | :46:00. | |
them for their work. I thank the public sector workers and incredible | :46:01. | :46:03. | |
volunteers for the outstanding support they gave residents and | :46:04. | :46:08. | |
businesses in York over Christmas. Successive reports over many years | :46:09. | :46:12. | |
by the Environment Agency and City Council highlighted the risks of the | :46:13. | :46:17. | |
river Foss barrier in York not managing the capacity of water in | :46:18. | :46:21. | |
the River Foss at times such as this. Why weren't barrier pumps | :46:22. | :46:26. | |
upgraded when the concern has been highlighted for years. It could have | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
saved hundreds of homes and businesses from flooding. I thank | :46:31. | :46:35. | |
the honourable lady for her question and I was pleased to meet her also | :46:36. | :46:39. | |
at the Environment Agency offices in York. The Foss barrier was under | :46:40. | :46:45. | |
review at the time of the incident and the Prime Minister has said that | :46:46. | :46:49. | |
he was banned ?10 million of Government money upgrading that | :46:50. | :46:56. | |
barrier. -- he will spend. To make sure it has sufficient pumping | :46:57. | :47:00. | |
capacity to deal with additional volumes. What we are facing with all | :47:01. | :47:04. | |
of the rivers across Lancashire and Yorkshire is higher flows than we | :47:05. | :47:08. | |
have ever seen before so we need to look at defences in light of that | :47:09. | :47:11. | |
and make an initial commitment to upgrade pumps at the Foss barrier | :47:12. | :47:17. | |
and also look more widely to ensure we are sufficiently resilient to | :47:18. | :47:25. | |
deal with new weather challenges. In the review that my right honourable | :47:26. | :47:29. | |
friend is carrying out can I ask her to ignore one piece of work and read | :47:30. | :47:33. | |
two others. The Public Accounts Committee in the last Parliament had | :47:34. | :47:37. | |
a report which more or less trashed the pit to review -- Piatti review. | :47:38. | :47:46. | |
It was a good piece of work. Droughts and floods toward a more | :47:47. | :47:55. | |
holistic approach. A paper has arrived in my inbox today called | :47:56. | :47:59. | |
flood defence, time for a radical rethink. Talking about natural | :48:00. | :48:06. | |
capital and whole catchments and that is fundamental to understanding | :48:07. | :48:09. | |
weather patterns that we now have to cope with. I thank my noble friend | :48:10. | :48:15. | |
for his question and can I pay tribute to the work he did as | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
flooding minister. He is absolutely right. This same paper arrived in my | :48:20. | :48:26. | |
inbox today and I have read it and it makes excellent suggestions and | :48:27. | :48:35. | |
that is why we have appointed him to look at these catchment specific | :48:36. | :48:38. | |
solutions and it is a very important part of how we become more resilient | :48:39. | :48:51. | |
as a country. In 2011 the flood defence scheme, the ?180 million | :48:52. | :48:55. | |
scheme that was planned for Leeds was cut by her predecessor which | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
would have protected businesses. The new scheme planned for Leeds to be | :49:00. | :49:07. | |
completed by 2017 will only protect the City from one in 75 years event | :49:08. | :49:13. | |
and will do nothing the businesses on that road and can she look again | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
to make sure that the scheme is now included as she looks at the | :49:19. | :49:23. | |
resilience review? I thank the honourable lady for her question and | :49:24. | :49:28. | |
I would point out that the proposal of the Labour Party going into the | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
2010 election was to halve the amount that they were going to spend | :49:33. | :49:37. | |
on capital spending. And actually we increased flood defence spending | :49:38. | :49:44. | |
from ?1.5 billion to ?1.7 billion in that period. I have already said I | :49:45. | :49:49. | |
will look at the Leeds scheme to make sure it is sufficiently | :49:50. | :49:53. | |
resilient for the new conditions we are now facing and I'm very happy to | :49:54. | :49:57. | |
meet the honourable lady and her colleagues to discuss it further. I | :49:58. | :50:04. | |
declare an interest living 15 feet from the river air and I spent | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
Boxing Day sandbagged into my house and I thank her for her telephone | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
call and concern for my constituency. We have been one of | :50:14. | :50:17. | |
the most flood prone areas of Britain and this time we were a | :50:18. | :50:21. | |
little better off. Can she assure me that in any review of defence | :50:22. | :50:24. | |
funding that has been announced for the Humber estuary and tribute trees | :50:25. | :50:30. | |
will not be affected and secondly, can we please look at the policy of | :50:31. | :50:36. | |
moving water as quickly as possible from the upper catchment down to | :50:37. | :50:40. | |
people in the lower catchment in my area where we are already below sea | :50:41. | :50:44. | |
level and have two pumped daily and be defended by ten foot banks. -- | :50:45. | :50:54. | |
have to pump. I was happy to speak to my honourable friend to make sure | :50:55. | :50:58. | |
he had sufficient sandbags in his area. I agree that we need to look | :50:59. | :51:02. | |
at catchment management and that is what the natural capital committee | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
will be looking at. We have already seen successful pilots, for example | :51:08. | :51:11. | |
the slow the flow project in Pickering in Yorkshire and that was | :51:12. | :51:16. | |
effective. We need to make sure we are putting those measures in the | :51:17. | :51:19. | |
right places and that requires whole catchment management, and analysis | :51:20. | :51:25. | |
and it does take time. I completely agree that it's an important piece | :51:26. | :51:31. | |
of work that we need to get on with. It's a pleasure to welcome back the | :51:32. | :51:34. | |
honourable lady, the Member for Leeds West. Thank you for the | :51:35. | :51:40. | |
welcome. The flood envoy for Yorkshire suggested in the Yorkshire | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
evening Post today that the scheme that would have protected Kirkstall | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
was indeed going to be reinstated, but that is not my understanding. | :51:50. | :51:54. | |
Can the Secretary of State give us some indication about whether the | :51:55. | :51:56. | |
scheme will be resurrected because if it was in place, businesses on | :51:57. | :52:01. | |
that road would not have been devastated by the floods on Boxing | :52:02. | :52:05. | |
Day. We cannot allow this to happen again. What will the Minister do? I | :52:06. | :52:11. | |
thank the honourable lady for her question. As I mentioned in my | :52:12. | :52:15. | |
statement the levels of water on the River air were a metre higher than | :52:16. | :52:21. | |
they have ever been before. We have seen simply unprecedented levels of | :52:22. | :52:25. | |
River. In that light, I am going to be reviewing and we are as a | :52:26. | :52:30. | |
Government going to be reviewing the Leeds scheme to make sure it is | :52:31. | :52:34. | |
sufficient to protect businesses and communities in Leeds. On Boxing Day, | :52:35. | :52:43. | |
my constituency of South Ribble suffered bread flooding with the | :52:44. | :52:49. | |
village of crossed and being the worst affected. -- widespread | :52:50. | :52:54. | |
flooding. I would like to pay tribute to the emergency services, | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
and particularly the arrow flood group who pulled together an amazing | :52:59. | :53:05. | |
effort to protect Croston. -- Yarrow. Can my right honourable | :53:06. | :53:08. | |
friend confirmed that there will be a review of River and water course | :53:09. | :53:13. | |
maintenance across Lancashire including in the constituency of my | :53:14. | :53:18. | |
honourable friend and neighbour for the Ribble Valley, and dredging will | :53:19. | :53:26. | |
be part of the review. I thank my honourable friend for her question | :53:27. | :53:29. | |
and can I pay tribute to the work she did in making sure that we had | :53:30. | :53:34. | |
all of the right information on the ground in Croston and we saw support | :53:35. | :53:41. | |
from the RAF, from the Environment Agency, to keep the village | :53:42. | :53:48. | |
protected. In answer to her question, we are looking at the | :53:49. | :53:53. | |
issue. Specifically in Cumbria. And my honourable friend the floods | :53:54. | :53:58. | |
Minister will be pleased to meet her to extend those efforts into | :53:59. | :54:08. | |
Lancashire. The Environment Secretary is aware that of the 1086 | :54:09. | :54:14. | |
projects in the environment development programme almost 519 are | :54:15. | :54:20. | |
waiting for approval subject to securing other funding | :54:21. | :54:23. | |
contributions. At the moment those funding contributions that are | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
lacking amount to ?350 million and yet these programmes are supposed to | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
start in two months. How will the Government ensure that these works | :54:33. | :54:40. | |
go ahead? I thank the honourable gentleman for his question. One of | :54:41. | :54:45. | |
the successes of the flood defence programme is securing additional | :54:46. | :54:50. | |
money through partnership funding. From 2005 to 2010 we saw 13 million | :54:51. | :54:55. | |
under the Labour Government whereas under the last Conservative | :54:56. | :54:58. | |
Government we got 134 million and under this Government we have | :54:59. | :55:04. | |
already secured 250 million and we have plans in place for additional | :55:05. | :55:14. | |
funding. Would my right honourable friend asked the National flood | :55:15. | :55:19. | |
resilience review to look at where we build houses in this country? | :55:20. | :55:26. | |
Increasingly we are building them in flood plains and areas which local | :55:27. | :55:30. | |
people know flood and it seems that we are building a bigger and bigger | :55:31. | :55:34. | |
problem in the future. Would she asked the review to co-ordinated | :55:35. | :55:37. | |
with the Department of local Government to see where we build | :55:38. | :55:38. | |
houses in the future? I thank my honourable friend for his | :55:39. | :55:50. | |
question. The national policy planning framework makes it very | :55:51. | :55:56. | |
clear that inappropriate development on flood plains should be avoided, | :55:57. | :56:00. | |
but ultimately, this is a decision for local people to make, as is the | :56:01. | :56:04. | |
case throughout the planning system. Tim McLaren. I thank the Secretary | :56:05. | :56:12. | |
of State for a advance copy of statement and indeed for her | :56:13. | :56:14. | |
activities and efforts over the Christmas period and those of her | :56:15. | :56:20. | |
ministers. It has not gone unnoticed, and in paying tribute to | :56:21. | :56:24. | |
the emergency services and volunteers across the country, | :56:25. | :56:27. | |
particularly the mountain rescue services, we stand in solidarity | :56:28. | :56:30. | |
with all of those who have suffered this flood. It will be a month today | :56:31. | :56:38. | |
since storm Desmond hit Cumbria. First, the A591 remains closed and | :56:39. | :56:47. | |
destroyed an impassable. Can she make this a national strategic | :56:48. | :56:50. | |
priority and ensure that it is reopened as quickly as is humanly | :56:51. | :56:55. | |
possible? The Costa Cumbria of infrastructure lost will be ?500 | :56:56. | :56:58. | |
million. Will this Government commit to fund every penny of that to make | :56:59. | :57:02. | |
sure that we get back on our feet and will she commit to whole system | :57:03. | :57:07. | |
flood prevention measures including the restoration of the River Kent | :57:08. | :57:12. | |
flood defence scheme, which is currently shelved? I thank the jack | :57:13. | :57:21. | |
for his question. On the A591, that is a national priority and highways | :57:22. | :57:26. | |
England are working on that at the moment to get that restored as soon | :57:27. | :57:30. | |
as possible. That is extremely important. The Transport Secretary | :57:31. | :57:35. | |
is with me here today, so I am sure he has taken that on board. | :57:36. | :57:39. | |
Similarly, the other infrastructure we will also be looking at the | :57:40. | :57:43. | |
funding of that. In terms of the wider solutions, that is a priority | :57:44. | :57:46. | |
for the Government. This is something specifically the natural | :57:47. | :57:51. | |
capital committee are looking at and in terms of developing our plans for | :57:52. | :57:54. | |
the environment, we are now developing those on a river basin | :57:55. | :57:59. | |
and catchment bases. That is the way we look at the environment so we are | :58:00. | :58:06. | |
not looking at it in silos or biodiversity or farming. We are | :58:07. | :58:09. | |
looking at it together as a single plan. Mr Martin Vickers. Thank you, | :58:10. | :58:17. | |
Mr Speaker. Fortunately, my constituency was not affected on | :58:18. | :58:21. | |
this occasion, but my honourable friend will remember the tidal surge | :58:22. | :58:25. | |
which caused major problems to residents and businesses | :58:26. | :58:28. | |
particularly on the strategically important port of Immingham. She | :58:29. | :58:34. | |
mentioned that allocations for the Humber. Can she give an assurance | :58:35. | :58:38. | |
they will not slip and when will she be in a position to give more | :58:39. | :58:44. | |
detail? Well, I thank my honourable friend for his question and in | :58:45. | :58:49. | |
response to his and my other honourable friend's question, yes, | :58:50. | :58:52. | |
that scheme is absolutely on track and we are committed to it. The book | :58:53. | :59:00. | |
is, understandably, has to be how to make good the damage to lives and | :59:01. | :59:03. | |
livelihoods that we are currently seeing, but good I asked -- could I | :59:04. | :59:18. | |
ask about birdie. She has said that the status quo is not sustainable. | :59:19. | :59:24. | |
The worst reaction to the current crisis would be more of the same. | :59:25. | :59:27. | |
Will she take on board the lessons that Deeta Helm has put in front of | :59:28. | :59:34. | |
us, particularly the need to look at Rivers and genuine water catchment | :59:35. | :59:39. | |
management, including land use modifications where appropriate. How | :59:40. | :59:41. | |
deep will she go in her thinking about a radical review of her | :59:42. | :59:47. | |
approach? I thank the honourable gentleman for his question. The | :59:48. | :59:53. | |
appointment of Deeta Helm was made in December, so we are currently | :59:54. | :59:56. | |
working on the terms of reference for the committee for the next five | :59:57. | :00:01. | |
years. But combining this with our 25 year plan for the environment, | :00:02. | :00:06. | |
making sure we're looking at things on the basis of river basins and | :00:07. | :00:11. | |
catchment is a great priority, because we need to spend Government | :00:12. | :00:15. | |
money more effectively. We need to understand better the interactions | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
between our environment measures, flood risk, and flood management, | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
and that is very important. What I would say is this is not something | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
that can be achieved overnight. It takes thinking over a number of | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
years, measures like planting trees, putting in upstream measures, takes | :00:34. | :00:38. | |
time and building up blood measures takes time so that is why it is also | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
important that we have a very strong emergency response effort as well. | :00:43. | :00:46. | |
But we are thinking about those things over the long term. That is | :00:47. | :00:49. | |
why we have set up a six-year plan for flood defences for the first | :00:50. | :00:52. | |
time ever. That is why we are working on a 25 year environment | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
than, so we do have that in place for the future. Mr Stewart Andrew. | :00:57. | :01:06. | |
Thank you. I also pay tribute to all those who worked so hard to reopen | :01:07. | :01:11. | |
roads and rail use that many of my constituents use, and I'm sure that | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
all of my colleagues would like to discuss the lead -- the lead scheme, | :01:16. | :01:23. | |
but I am sure that emergency funds could be used to revive the Leeds | :01:24. | :01:28. | |
scheme, and I wonder that would be possible? That is something I would | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
need to look into, but I am extremely happy to include him in a | :01:35. | :01:41. | |
meeting of Leeds MPs. Yvette Cooper. I am very grateful to the emergency | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
services, the army, and the Wakefield Council for turning out at | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
all hours in cattle, in Ferrybridge and other areas when floodwaters | :01:50. | :01:52. | |
threatened. Can I ask her to confirm that a review will cover the entire | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
valley including Leeds and Castleford as well, and does she now | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
accept that her Government was wrong to cancel parts of the Leeds Lodge | :02:02. | :02:10. | |
defence scheme because we would not tolerate, rightly, inadequate | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
defences in our capital city, we shouldn't tolerate inadequate | :02:15. | :02:16. | |
defences in our northern cities and towns as well? I completely agree | :02:17. | :02:24. | |
with her. Protecting cities like Leeds is absolutely vital, which is | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
why have committed to looking at the current scheme and making sure it is | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
adequate, given the new levels of rainfall and river levels that we | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
are seeing. But it is important to note that in Yorkshire and in fact | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
the north and east region, we will be investing ?54 per head over the | :02:40. | :02:48. | |
next six years compared to ?42 per head in the South East region, so we | :02:49. | :02:53. | |
are investing more in the North and East of England and in fact | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
Yorkshire does have many scheme is happening, the Humber has been | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
mentioned, but also the scheme in Leeds. Mr Nigel Evans. I would like | :03:01. | :03:08. | |
to pay tribute as well to the countless numbers of people who gave | :03:09. | :03:12. | |
up the Christmases in an amazing display of selfless humanity in | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
helping during the floods. And when she came to the Valley, she not only | :03:18. | :03:26. | |
saw the devastation, but also she saw many people who do not have the | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
luxury of choice. That is the choice between paying eye watering levels | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
for premiums for insurance with massive excess, or going on holiday. | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
The choices that the either spend the money on living, if they are on | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
low incomes, or on premiums for flood insurance if they can get it. | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
So what I am asking her is to look again, we know the new insurance | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
scheme is coming in April, but that does not help the people who are | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
hurting now. Can she give an assurance that she will look at the | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
levels of people who were not insured during these floods, and | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
that extra financial support will be given to them where necessary? I | :04:06. | :04:12. | |
thank my honourable friend for his question and I was very struck by | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
what he showed me in the village and the way that people have been | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
affected and the fact that the river had diverted and became a torrent | :04:23. | :04:30. | |
down the street and we saw people's homes and possessions that had been | :04:31. | :04:36. | |
decimated and it was truly shocking and we will do all we can to help | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
those people get back on their feet, get back into their homes. That is | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
why we have provided funding to the local authority and those people can | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
apply for that funding, and we have pre-funded it, so it is a much | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
simpler scheme than before. Rather than people having to get receipts, | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
they can apply directly to the Council for that funding. Caroline | :04:57. | :05:04. | |
Lucas. I am very glad to hear the Secretary of State's support for | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
catchment wide approaches and far more natural flood management | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
schemes based on restoration of landscape. She mentioned the | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
Pickering scheme. I would also highlight the Sussex flow | :05:16. | :05:17. | |
initiative. Those schemes work but they often struggle to get funding, | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
so scanty tellers how much money she will commit to natural flood | :05:21. | :05:23. | |
management schemes over the lifetime of this Parliament and will it be in | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
addition to the 3 billion already committed? I thank the honourable | :05:28. | :05:41. | |
lady for her point. Across Defra, we spend money on various things such | :05:42. | :05:48. | |
as countryside stewardship for farmers and on flood defences. My | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
view is that we can get better value for that money by making sure that | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
we are both improving the environment and improving our | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
resilience to flooding, so for me, this is about how we spend our money | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
better and how we plan better for the future. Alex Shell Brooke. I | :06:04. | :06:13. | |
would like to thank the Secretary of State for coming to my constituency, | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
next door. In Collingham, the Avenue was flooded by coming over the top | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
of the flood defences, and I would like to put on record my thanks for | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
the work everyone did in trying to sort that out. In the south of my | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
constituency, the Environment Agency's plan to hold the water in | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
the former's field worked, but the water was lapping at the doorsteps | :06:35. | :06:40. | |
of many houses. Can I urge my honourable friend to be very careful | :06:41. | :06:43. | |
about scheme is being put in place in Leeds which are only designed to | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
go to Woodall scored further upstream because that extra water | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
would have taken out hundreds of homes in my constituency which | :06:53. | :06:55. | |
survive this and therefore can I ask at the earliest opportunity that are | :06:56. | :06:57. | |
honourable friend for Scarborough and Whitby can make an appearance | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
and come along to my constituency so I can show exactly what the effects | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
of schemes for the drop in Leeds could have, devastating effects. I | :07:07. | :07:12. | |
thank my honourable friend crisis point and I think he is again | :07:13. | :07:15. | |
highlighting the need for catchment wide management to make sure it is | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
managed properly right across the catchment as well as meeting my | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
friend the floods envoy, can I also suggest a direct meeting with the | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
Environment Agency would also be helpful. Can I draw the house's | :07:28. | :07:35. | |
attention to my area of interest? In paying tribute to all of those who | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
gave up a lot of time, put their lives at risk, in a lot of hard work | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
in saving people, I was frustrated to see the site of people being | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
hauled into small, inflatable dinghy is, simply because the professionals | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
that we rely on did not have the necessary kit. There are vehicles | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
available that can drive down the street and get people, 15 people at | :07:58. | :08:05. | |
a time, that is out there readily. Will she agree to meet with me and | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
representatives of the professional heavy recovery vehicle industry? I | :08:10. | :08:17. | |
thank the honourable gentleman are his point. It is very important that | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
we deploy the best possible kit. There was a big effort on Christmas | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
Day to make sure that we were deploying that kit into Lancashire | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
and Yorkshire to protect people, and we do have to rely on those in | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
charge of the operations, the local gold command, to make the decisions | :08:33. | :08:38. | |
about how to deploy kit, but my honourable friend the floods | :08:39. | :08:40. | |
minister is very happy to meet with the get smacked to discuss how we | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
might do things better in the future. Can I thank the Secretary of | :08:44. | :08:50. | |
State, the floods minister, and the honourable member for Stockton South | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
for their support during the floods that decimated my constituency, and | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
rapidly to the requests for rapidly to the requests for | :08:59. | :09:01. | |
assistance in terms of getting the army in to help? Can the Secretary | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
of State tell me what additional support can be given to the many | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
businesses and homes trying to get back on their feet again after the | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
floods, particularly as the honourable member for Ribble Valley | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
said, those who were struggling with insurance claims. Can she tell us | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
how much will be put in place to help build the flood defences in the | :09:22. | :09:24. | |
Shipley constituency, and will she join me in paying tribute to the | :09:25. | :09:34. | |
magnificent army of volunteers, who gave up so much of their Christmas | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
to help other people and also their employers who allowed them time off | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
work to help in those communities? Can I thank my honourable friend for | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
all of his work in making sure that his local community had all the | :09:49. | :09:55. | |
support that they needed, but also to the fantastic volunteers who | :09:56. | :09:56. | |
worked tirelessly through the Christmas period and a very | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
difficult time of year who've given up their time and homes and who are | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
also provided food and lodging for other people. I am very happy to | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
have further discussions with the honourable gentleman about what | :10:12. | :10:16. | |
needs to be done to make sure the defences are adequate in his area. | :10:17. | :10:25. | |
Many families businesses and communities in my constituency have | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
been severely affected by flooding caused by Storm Frank. Could I ask | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
the Secretary of State what discussions she has had with local | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
authorities in Scotland about an EU Solidarity fund application to | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
ensure flood victims are assisted in Scotland and the rest of the UK. I | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
thank the honourable gentleman for his question. We have been working | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
closely with Scottish authorities during this incident. We will look | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
at the Solidarity fund as he suggests but it would take seven | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
months to actually receive any funding. We have been able to put in | :11:03. | :11:09. | |
place funding directly to local authorities so that residents and | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
businesses can now claim the funding up to ?5,000 to get their home or | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
business back on its feet. What I care about is making sure that we | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
get the support to those homes and businesses as soon as in. That is | :11:25. | :11:31. | |
the priority of this Government. -- as soon as possible. I would like to | :11:32. | :11:43. | |
give a bit of optimism, from a report fed in from the Somerset | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
levels I can report that the Government protection and prevention | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
programme that was put in place following the devastating floods in | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
Somerset in 2013 /4 team is working. The dredging is proving effective. | :11:57. | :12:03. | |
And river levels fell by two feet and the pumping is in operation. | :12:04. | :12:09. | |
Could I have assurances that the Government will continue to support | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
this prevention work including really important wider catchment | :12:15. | :12:16. | |
environmental work so that we don't regress and go backwards again. I | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
thank my honourable friend for her question. The Somerset Rivers | :12:22. | :12:28. | |
authority is now established and the Communities Secretary has now agreed | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
a shadow precept. The important point is that now decision for local | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
people about where to dredge and when and how to maintain | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
watercourses, and I want to see more of that across the country. We are | :12:43. | :12:46. | |
developing the Cumbrian floods partnership so that local people can | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
make decisions about what is best for their area. The a 590 came close | :12:50. | :12:59. | |
to flooding again over the Christmas storms. Will she besiege the | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
Transport Secretary to her left of the urgent need to improve the | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
anti-flooding measures on that stretch of this crucial byline | :13:10. | :13:16. | |
connecting my constituency to the M6 and if it is the case that there is, | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
as I understand, a particular landowner holding out and needing | :13:23. | :13:28. | |
compulsory purchase, will she besiege the Transport Secretary to | :13:29. | :13:35. | |
step in. My honourable friend the Transport Secretary is happy to look | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
at it. Planning has a crucial role in flood prevention. Will the | :13:41. | :13:46. | |
Secretary of State join me in pleading with Kirklees Council who | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
are currently consulting on their local plan, before they rubber-stamp | :13:51. | :13:58. | |
allocated greenfield sites for house-building, they seriously think | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
about the implications for flood prevention further down the valleys. | :14:03. | :14:10. | |
I thank my honourable friend for his question. The Environment Agency are | :14:11. | :14:21. | |
statutory consul T 's, and it is clear that inappropriate development | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
should be avoided. And ultimately it is a matter for the local authority. | :14:26. | :14:32. | |
In October 2015 the Secretary of In October 2015 the Secretary of | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
State turned down ?1.2 billion Humber tidal defence scheme. In | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
light of what has happened and in light of the torrential rain whether | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
she would consider and review that decision because I think all Members | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
of Parliament from all areas of the Humber recognise that they really | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
needed that scheme. I thank the honourable lady for her question. We | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
are investing ?80 million in defences but the Humber. I know | :15:03. | :15:05. | |
there are further ongoing discussions with local MPs. What we | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
have two insure is through our ?2.3 billion budget we are fair to people | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
across the country, there is a formula that makes determinations | :15:17. | :15:19. | |
and one of the things we will look at in the national resilience review | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
is how the formula works and how we allocate funding. Until then, we | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
have to make sure that we are fair using the existing formula. Can I | :15:30. | :15:37. | |
express my thanks to the Government and ministers for their collective | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
response to the floods. It has been prompt and I firmly believe | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
constructive and helpful to the people of Carlisle and Cumbria. | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
However will she give my constituency assurance that is not | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
next week or next month but in six or 12 months' time, she will ensure | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
that the Government still offers the support and help which flooded | :15:59. | :16:00. | |
communities and businesses may still need. I thank my honourable friend | :16:01. | :16:08. | |
for his question. Of course it is vitally important that we don't just | :16:09. | :16:11. | |
help the recovery efforts now, getting people back into their homes | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
and giving people support but also restore infrastructure and restore | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
great places like the Lake District National Park, to make sure that we | :16:22. | :16:24. | |
have the economic support required for the future. The largest river | :16:25. | :16:34. | |
system in the UK is in my constituency and the biggest flow of | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
water experienced by any community goes through the City of Perth. | :16:39. | :16:44. | |
Large swathes of my constituency are underwater and there is concern | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
about the flood defences failing which would be disastrous given the | :16:49. | :16:54. | |
flow of water down the River Tay. Even the most resilient flood | :16:55. | :17:01. | |
defences will do nothing if we don't tackle climate change. You have to | :17:02. | :17:08. | |
stop the disastrous subsidy for onshore wind so that we can invest | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
in technologies that will protect us in the future. The honourable | :17:13. | :17:18. | |
gentleman will be well aware that my honourable friend the chime climate | :17:19. | :17:25. | |
change Secretary -- the climate change secretary secured a deal in | :17:26. | :17:31. | |
Paris to address that issue. As my right honourable friend considered | :17:32. | :17:38. | |
asking the army and Royal Engineers to intervene since their skill with | :17:39. | :17:46. | |
bridges is legendary and they could easily replace very quickly the | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
bridges lost currently. I thank my right honourable friend for his | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
question. The Royal Engineers are involved and have been involved in | :17:59. | :18:01. | |
Cumbria and Yorkshire looking at possible solutions for those | :18:02. | :18:12. | |
bridges. The Secretary of State in her statement referred to the | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
National resilience review that she has commissioned to ensure that the | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
country can deal with increasingly extreme weather events but she did | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
not respond to a request from the shadow Secretary of State that the | :18:27. | :18:29. | |
review should be independent so Canellas can now to respond to that | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
request because we do need to underpin the integrity of the | :18:34. | :18:36. | |
important review by making sure that it is indeed independent and robust | :18:37. | :18:44. | |
in its recommendations. I thank the honourable lady for her question. | :18:45. | :18:48. | |
What we are doing with the review are involving key bodies like the | :18:49. | :18:54. | |
national capital committee and making sure that all of the findings | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
are open and transparent. One of the key aspects is that we need to look | :19:00. | :19:03. | |
at how Government systems work effectively and we need to share | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
that information more widely with the public. That does not require an | :19:09. | :19:13. | |
independent review. What it requires is openness and transparency which | :19:14. | :19:20. | |
I'm committed to. In my constituency we have the wonderful River Wye and | :19:21. | :19:32. | |
the River team and they cross into Herefordshire is where they usually | :19:33. | :19:41. | |
flood but thank goodness are not flooded on this occasion. Canellas | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
what she is doing relating to Oakland 's management and certainly | :19:46. | :19:57. | |
capture management. In -- can I ask? The Welsh authorities have been | :19:58. | :19:59. | |
involved in the flood response because it is affecting Wales as | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
well. I will seek to engage them in the wider issue. | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
The Government is providing funding for businesses that have suffered | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
from the recent flooding. While I welcome this, local traders in | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
Cockermouth have told me that it can't be used towards resilience | :20:20. | :20:26. | |
measures or any capital expenditure. What businesses need now is help | :20:27. | :20:29. | |
with resilience measures to make sure that the next flood, because | :20:30. | :20:36. | |
there will be one, is survivable. Many insurance companies will not | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
fund extra costs of resilience measures. At a time when affected | :20:40. | :20:45. | |
small businesses in my constituency are haemorrhaging cash, what support | :20:46. | :20:48. | |
can the Minister offer in this respect, and following her earlier | :20:49. | :20:55. | |
offered to Lancashire MPs would she meet with Cumbrian MPs as well to | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
discuss those matters? I thank the honourable lady for her question. My | :21:01. | :21:04. | |
honourable friend the Business Minister visited Cockermouth will | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
stop my understanding is that businesses can apply through the LEP | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
to get investment in those resilience measures. -- visited | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
Cockermouth. I'm sure that my honourable friend would be happy to | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
take that forward. 20% of South Derbyshire is in flood plains. My | :21:25. | :21:27. | |
constituents are very aware and are tuned to when crises might hit us. | :21:28. | :21:34. | |
Is my right honourable friend going to take a review of how the | :21:35. | :21:39. | |
Environment Agency have been putting out information and updating that | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
information? Some of my constituents don't feel it has been timely | :21:43. | :21:49. | |
enough. I thank my honourable friend for that point and I will take that | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
up with the Environment Agency. I do think we have had a lot of hits on | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
the buyer and agency website and there has been up to date | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
but we are always looking for ways but we are always looking for ways | :22:03. | :22:08. | |
to improve that. -- on the Environment Agency website. James | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
Bevan is keen to hear about suggestions for improvement and I | :22:13. | :22:14. | |
will certainly feed that through to him. I would like to pay tribute to | :22:15. | :22:21. | |
the volunteers and all of those emergency services who helped not | :22:22. | :22:24. | |
only in northern England but also in Scotland and Wales. I would like to | :22:25. | :22:28. | |
draw your attention to the jewel carriageway in North Wales which is | :22:29. | :22:35. | |
of great UK and European importance, linking the economies of Ireland and | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
Wales to the UK and wider European markets. Can she confirm that she | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
will put pressure on the Labour First Minister in Wales to | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
guarantees a fish in funding and a starting date for essential work to | :22:48. | :22:54. | |
ensure that the a 55 is kept flood free from now on. -- official | :22:55. | :23:02. | |
funding. That is a matter for the Welsh Government. My constituents | :23:03. | :23:10. | |
know only too well the devastation caused by flooding and wish me to | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
express my sympathy is for all of those affected by flooding over | :23:15. | :23:20. | |
Christmas. The beach replenishment scheme helps to protect Lincolnshire | :23:21. | :23:24. | |
coast line from the threat of tidal surges from the North Sea. As my | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
honourable friend from Cleethorpes has talked about. Since 2010 the | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
Government has invested millions in flood defences across my | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
constituency but of course they must be maintained. Will the Secretary of | :23:40. | :23:46. | |
State meet me and other Lincolnshire colleagues and council leaders as a | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
matter of urgency to discuss the scheme so that we can continue to | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
protect Lincolnshire residence in the following years ahead of us? I | :23:56. | :24:01. | |
thank my honourable friend for her question. We have protective flood | :24:02. | :24:05. | |
maintenance spending in real terms on the current level of 171 million. | :24:06. | :24:11. | |
I'm also a great supporter of internal drainage boards and making | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
sure they are sufficiently empowered to do work. I am sure that my | :24:15. | :24:23. | |
honourable friend will be happy to meet her to discuss this further. | :24:24. | :24:32. | |
Can I ask the Secretary of State to commit to ensuring that the | :24:33. | :24:39. | |
Government makes opening the 8591 before Easter. And regarding the | :24:40. | :24:45. | |
?500 million which the county of Cumbria needs to repair flooding, | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
will she ensure it is linked to the outstanding devolution settlement | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
with the Cumbrian local Government? I thank the honourable gentleman for | :24:54. | :25:00. | |
his question. As I have said, the 8591 is a priority. The first time | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
ever we have highways England working on it to make sure it | :25:05. | :25:07. | |
happens as soon as. -- the a I'm certain that most Members of the | :25:08. | :25:17. | |
Environment Agency did work very hard over the Christmas period, but | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
does the Secretary of State not agree with me that institutionally | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
the Environment Agency is often found lacking when it comes to flood | :25:27. | :25:33. | |
prevention? It seems to lack dynamism and a cohesive approach. It | :25:34. | :25:36. | |
seems to lack the termination to follow through which schemes that | :25:37. | :25:44. | |
people identify. We're well aware the problems identified with | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
flooding and in my area there is a frustration about the operation of | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
the Environment Agency. I thank my honourable friend for his question. | :25:56. | :26:05. | |
What I saw in Yorkshire was a fantastic start from the Environment | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
Agency working around the clock to save people and that is vitally | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
important. Of course the organisation needs to learn and get | :26:17. | :26:18. | |
better at doing things. I went into the Ribble Valley to see | :26:19. | :26:54. | |
the devastation caused. It truly was a tragedy. In the south of my | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
constituency a river burst its banks dramatically. Nothing has been done | :26:59. | :27:05. | |
since 2012. I went to a village where almost all of the house is | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
worth flooding by five or six feet of water. There are people who can't | :27:10. | :27:19. | |
get insurance. ?3000 - ?6,000 for insurance. What is the Government | :27:20. | :27:24. | |
going to do to make sure that these people can access insurance? What | :27:25. | :27:27. | |
will they do about this devastated village? It has been devastated | :27:28. | :27:36. | |
twice. What will she do? We are making funding available so that | :27:37. | :27:39. | |
residents can apply for up to ?5,000. | :27:40. | :27:42. |