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proper steps are taken and we do all we can to get to the bottom of this

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and get justice, as is rightly deserved for Poppi Worthington.

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Order. Urgent question, Mr @ndy McDonald. Thank you Mr Speaker. Will

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the Secretary of State for the Home Department make a statement on the

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revelation today of discrimhnatory treatment of asylum seekers in

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Middlesbrough? Mr Speaker, H'm grateful to the honourable gentleman

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for asking this question. And for allowing me the opportunity to set

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out the government's response to the issues raised in today's Tiles

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newspaper. From the outset, I want to underline the fact the United

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Kingdom has a proud history of granting asylum to those who need

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it. We are committed to providing safe and secure accommodation while

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asylum cases are considered. The immigration and Asylum act 0999

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introduced the policy of national dispersal designed to show the

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impact of asylum seekers across the whole of the UK. Under this

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arrangement, asylum seekers are housed across the UK, it in

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arrangements that have been in place since 2000. Under current

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arrangements, the compass contracts, three companies provide

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accommodation, transport and related services. In Middlesbrough, they are

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provided by G4S. As honourable and right honourable member 's would

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have seen from my response published in The Times newspaper this morning,

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I am deeply concerned about the issues raised about the painting of

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doors of asylum seeker accolmodation in a single colour. Anything which

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identifies asylum seeker accommodation for those who may wish

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to harm those accommodated hn the properties must be avoided. I've

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spoken to the Chief Executive officer of G4S this morning, and he

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has assured me that neither he or their subcontractor in Middlesbrough

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have a policy that states a property can be identified in this w`y.

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Although they do accept that they use red paint across their portfolio

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of properties. I've asked Home Office officials to look into this

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matter as a matter of urgency and reports to me and the permanent

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Secretary. G4S have advised those in the area will be repainted so there

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is no predominant colour. I've asked them also as part of the audit that

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we have commissioned to enstre the Compass contracts have been

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implemented in Middlesbrough and consider the Home Office 's

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arrangements for monitoring contract compliance in this area and more

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generally. The Home Office works with Compass providers to m`ke sure

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the impacts of dispersal on local communities and services ard taken

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into account when allocating accommodation. It's the

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responsibility of suppliers to ensure all accommodation usdd meets

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required contractural stand`rds and complies with decent homes standard

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specifically accommodation tsed is safe, habitable and fit for purpose.

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Each property used is subject to a housing officer visit every 28 days

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and Home Office contract colpliance teams inspect a third of properties

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using intelligence led risk,based approaches to monitor stand`rds and

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ensure any maintenance faults RX defied within prescribed tilescales.

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Can I say to the house, I expect the highest standards from our

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contractors and if we have dvidence of discrimination against asylum

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seekers, I can be clear to the house it would be dealt with immediately.

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I am very grateful to the Mhnister of his very thoughtful and

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considered response to but H do share with the proud record

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Middlesbrough has in welcomhng people fleeing persecution `nd

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torture. We are very proud of the arrangements we have with otr

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churches and charities and H am proud of those people and wd welcome

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what they offer. But the background, as he rightly says, the contracts

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for asylum and housing for `sylum for asylum and housing for `sylum

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seekers in the north-east is held by G4S and excellent article ptblished

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in the Times says 168 properties in two words, 155 of them have their

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front doors painted red, and this is simply marks out those propdrties

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and there are accounts of asylum seekers being abused in thehr homes

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as a direct result of being so readily identifiable -- wards.

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Stories of their doors being smeared with dog excrement, adorned with the

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National front local graffiti and stones thrown at their propdrty

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verbal abuse as well. -- National Front. Whilst such a policy may not

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be deliberate, G4S clearly have to think this policy through. There is

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a risk of undermining social cohesion and the safety of those

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seeking sanctuary and I am ` gassed they claim no knowledge of this But

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worse they have taken to reledy the situation it is important action is

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taken as a matter of supremd urgency and that the contract and

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subcontractor or held to account. The minister speaks about the way

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the contract is managed. I would ask him to stick to that theory that he

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has outlined in such great detail, because I am aware that the practice

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is far from the theory, and many people can be confined to one

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bedroom and it simply is not dignified and it is not a

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humanitarian response to put people in those conditions. The public

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policy implications for contracting out these arrangements, I think are

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devastating. These are not latters for people to get public profit from

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I think it is a matter for Government and local governlent

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local government being the best organisation to look at the wider

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implications of welcoming pdople into our communities. Can I ask him,

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when he first heard of this concern, and when did G4S become aware of it,

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and what action was taken? @nd what steps is his department takhng to

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ensure the readily identifi`ble red doors are corrected, and ovdr what

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timescale? At the moment thdy are acknowledging it now and ard saying

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they will do it over three to six months, and I suggest to thd

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Minister that is simply not acceptable. This must be done as a

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matter of supreme urgency. H have in mind a timetable more alike three to

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six weeks rather than months and I would like him to address that -

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more alike. If the Minister concludes this is discrimin`tory

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action on their behalf, what action will he take? In short, if he could

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outline what penalties he h`d available to him to make sure this

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contract, G4S, who quite fr`nkly have suffered a great deal of

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reputational damage over recent times, and the others, are held to

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account? Can I thank the honourable gentleman for the way in whhch he

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has raised his concerns? Eqtally, like him, I would like to p`y

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tribute to the work Middlesbrough has done for many years in seeking

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to accommodate asylum seekers and the approach they have taken as an

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authority. He will be well `ware of the number of discussions that have

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taken place between my officials, Home Office officials and

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Middlesbrough Council in relation to, for example, the concentration,

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the numbers of asylum seekers, the fact Middlesbrough is the only place

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in the country where our threshold of one in 200 is exceeded, `nd again

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I would ask my officials to look at that issue closely on levels of

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concentration, and a plan to bring that back within the appropriate

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standards we have set in terms of concentration. On the issue he

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highlights specifically, thd reporting in the Times newspaper

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today, and equally some of the points he has identified, the

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experiences of some people accommodated within the housing

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within Middlesbrough. ICI condemn absolutely any crimes of hate, any

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actions that so divisions whthin communities

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# ICI condemn. Or any actions which seek to intimidate or mark out

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asylum seekers in some way. We have been in contact with the local

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police this morning to underline any issues of community reassur`nce I

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know they are actively conshdering any appropriate states to bd

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regarded but, clearly, if pdople have complained around hate crime

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they should make those complaints to the police so they are therdfore

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followed through and action taken appropriately. He has asked me about

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the urgency of response. I can underline to him that as soon as I

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heard about this reporting, which was leaked last week when the

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newspaper first contacted us, at that stage I instructed offhcials to

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look into the matter urgently because of the very serious concerns

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I had from what I was hearing around this, and therefore I expect the

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audit to be concluded on thd Home Office site quickly and speddily and

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I would expect their work to be completed at the latest by the end

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of this month. In respect to the work of G4S, we do have an ongoing

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regime of inspection of the maintenance and conditions of the

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properties and G4S have met standards where it should h`ve been

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identified of maintenance that requires medial action. Thex have

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followed through on that, btt again we will be looking closely `t this

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in the context of the audit. The conversation with the chief

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executive of G4S this morning I had, he underlined the seriousness and

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urgency with which they takd this issue and in the context of the

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repainting of doors to make sure there is no predominant colour, they

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underlined the sense of urgdncy that he and G4S attached to this and

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certainly I underline I expdcted this to be done quickly and that was

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the message I got back from G4S in that context. This is a matter

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therefore that I take with ttmost concern. It is something thd Home

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Office is working at closelx and, as I say, we will look at this

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carefully, rigorously, and so it is not simply a question of looking at

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the contract. If issues need to be brought to the attention of the

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police and criminal action taken, that will be a matter for the police

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but I again urge those with any evidence to come forward to ensure

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that is dealt with appropri`tely. Can I echo the plea for urgdnt

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action on the ground? For the particular reason that throtghout

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the last 15 years, when asylum policy, and the numbers of `sylum

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seekers, have been a hugely sensitive public issue, one of the

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best things is that actuallx on the ground in communities there has been

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very little pension. And very little violence. It is actually, it human

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level, a policy which has bden handled very well, it would be

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tragic if that were to end with some of the actions we have heard

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described in Middlesbrough. Obviously the Minister will have to

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take another of actions which will take some time, but in terms of the

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immediate on the ground acthon, if what is required in the short-term

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is to repaint 150 front doors then frankly this should not be taking

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three months or three weeks. The painter should be out now and it

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should be done by the weekend and I hope the Minister can ensurd that

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that kind of urgency will bd shown. I am grateful to my right honourable

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friend for his comments and obviously someone with understanding

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and experience of this, havhng been a previous holder of the office I

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know hold as Immigration Minister, I can certainly assure him of the

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urgency I have impressed upon G S in respect of resolving this issue

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quickly. The Chief Executivd Officer underlined he recognised thhs and

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understood this clearly. We will be monitoring the situation closely. I

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have asked officials to go to Middlesbrough tomorrow to assess the

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situation on the ground, to start the work in relation to this audit.

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And therefore I hope that rdassures my right honourable friend of the

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urgency with which I do and my officials do, and from what we are

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hearing, G4S attached to thhs matter. To reports in the Thmes

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today are obviously deeply concerning and I recognise the

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concern expressed by the Minister and the steps he has alreadx taken

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to try to get to the bottom of this. The report is concerning because

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obviously the context, the fact this has happened, and I know it is early

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days, but it is right there doing these doors were painted red, there

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seems to be no disputing thd facts. But because of the underpinning

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arrangements, how did this come about? How did no one think this was

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inappropriate for these doors to be painted in the way they werd

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painted? Particularly when the Minister has outlined that there is

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a Home Office inspection regime and there is a local authority `ssurance

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scheme, how did nobody throtgh those arrangements think there was

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anything wrong with this arrangement? There is obviotsly also

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concern about the consequences. Hate crime is increasing, I think by 18%

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last year, and the consequence of this has been hate crime in

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Middlesbrough, a concern in its own right. I echo the concern that the

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sooner something is done to rectify this, the better. There is `lso the

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concern that this is only bdfore the House today, Mr Speaker, because of

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the careful work of Andrew Norfolk at the Times and not through some

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internalised inspection or `uditing scheme which has flagged up as a

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matter of concern for now. H have a number of questions. The Minister

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has said when he first knew and I appreciate he has put in pl`ce steps

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already to make further inqtiries, and they are welcome. But I do ask

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how did this escape whatever regime is in place of inspection or

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assurance? And, indeed, werd these properties inspected or asstred by

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the Home Office or anybody dlse If not, what can be done to improve

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that regime? What conversathons has the Minister had with the p`rticular

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contractors, in Middlesbrough? And also is this an isolated ex`mple? Is

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this just something that has happened in Middlesbrough, or are

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there are other examples of it in other parts of the country? Have

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inquiries been made about that? If so, what have they shown so far If

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not, can they be inquiries? And what further conversations can bd had

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with all private providers of accommodation to ensure this

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situation simply does not occur again anywhere, and if it h`s

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occurred anywhere else, that it is rectified as soon as possible? Thank

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you, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I have highlighted

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obviously I have spoken to the Chief Executive of G4S this morning, and I

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have asked work to be carridd out to assess whether this is an isolated

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issue or not, and how we can speak to all of the providers who are

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under the contract and inquhries made with their subcontractors as

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well. From initial investig`tions, it does seem that some provhders of

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social housing May for maintenance purposes simply paint any p`rticular

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colour, so that is something we are investigating further and the point

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has been made that around 40% of their overall portfolio is for

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asylum accommodation, but this is precisely the issue, I can see, we

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will be focusing on is part of the audit work I have commissioned and

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indeed, if there are lessons to be learned from this in terms of the

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ongoing maintenance inspecthon and they are doing is work going on to

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find out whether there are steps that should be taken by a

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contractors. It is that work I have tasked as part of this examhnation.

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I underline again this whold issue of hate crime. We take this with

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great seriousness and significance and indeed in terms of forthcoming

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work on hate crime it is solething this Government remains foctsed on

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and will continue to do so. He asks about inspection is undertaken. As I

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say, it is a matter for us to look at the processes and procedtres as

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to why this issue was not identified earlier, or its significancd, and I

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have noted reports in the press and elsewhere of this being highlighted

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to G4S and potentially further, and it is precisely that we are seeking

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to get to the bottom of. Th`nk you, Mr Speaker. I congratulate `nd would

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like to thank the honourabld member for Middlesbrough for bringhng this

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to the floor of the House bdcause the provision of accommodathon to

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asylum seekers is a subject deserving serious scrutiny, and in

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that regard I welcome the commission of an urgent audit of asylul in the

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north-east announced by members and I and members on this bench sure

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this and will have been app`lled by the revolution which seems to have

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been at best an eye-watering league -- eye-watering level of neglect of

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policy. But the story of thd red doors is very troubling and the

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delivery of asylum accommod`tion across the country is a bro`der

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issue and also raises all sorts of similar concerns. Will the

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Government listen to those concerns? When I speak to the Scottish refugee

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Council, I hear about probldms of poor quality accommodation, poor

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treatment of asylum seekers by staff, sometimes due to a l`ck of

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training or because of inexcusable abuse and mistreatment. I hdar

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complaint about inappropriate sharing of accommodation, and not

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much a lack of integration of the services referred to by the

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Minister, but the complete `nd utter fragmentation of those servhces

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Will the Minister Brogden inquiry into the provision of accomlodation

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to asylum seekers to reflect those concerns? And inquiry that speaks to

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asylum seekers living in accommodation provided by Government

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contract is and speaks to organisations such as the Scottish

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refugee Council who could h`ve so much input into such an inqtiry

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Finally, can the Minister also confirmed when a decision rdquires

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to be made into the extension of these contracts, and what

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opportunities will there be for parliamentarians to scrutinhse and

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have input into that decision? I can say to the honourable

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gentleman that in respect to property standards, they ard

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monitored under the Compass arrangements by three key pdrforming

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indicators. To ensure that accommodation is safe, habitable and

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fit for purpose. Accommodathon is inspected frequently by G4S, the

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local authority and the Homd Office. As I've already indicated there are

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processes in place where hotsing officers visit every 28 days with

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our overall compliance approach in inspecting on an intelligence led

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basis. The gentleman makes ` point about complaints, provisions are in

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the contract to make sure that complaints should be escalated,

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taken seriously, and that is something that I want the atdit to

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understand in terms of what we see in respect to the north-east and

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that will be pursued in that way. He asks for a broadening of thd

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arrangements. I don't judge that it is appropriate, the audit whll

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consider whether any further action is needed at that stage. It is

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extraordinary that with all of these inspections, that have occurred it

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took a journalist as distinguished as Andrew Norfolk to expose the

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problems that are occurring. Though I accept of course what the Minister

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has said, he's acted with great speed in putting measures in place

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but the fact remains that the home affairs committee has writtdn to

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ministers in the past worryhng and being concerned about the Compass

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contract. What ministers have done over the years is given these

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contracts to big companies like G4S and psycho who are once removed from

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the real providers. G4S, as this house knows, are serial offdnders in

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respect to these breaches. With the greatest will in the world `nd his

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commitment to making sure something will be done, I don't believe an

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audit will be sufficient. If there is an acceptance these doors were

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painted in a certain colour, that is appalling and should have bden

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discussed and discovered earlier. Will the Minister undertakes that

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when the audit is complete, he will either give a statement to the house

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or come to the select committee with its findings. The right honourable

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gentleman will no that I am a frequent a parent before his

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committee to provide updates to his committee and, by extension to the

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house, on matters relating to the immigration system, I may bd

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appearing before his committee in the near term which could provide an

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opportunity for me to updatd an opportunity for his committde and by

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extension other honourable lembers in respect to the work. I c`n give

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him that assurance. Whether there was any acceptance or knowlddge of

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the doors being painted in ` particular colour, as I've `lready

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said to the house, I think there is a practice among some social housing

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providers to paint in a particular colour for maintenance issuds but it

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is precisely those factors that I will want to understand as part of

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the audit in not any what h`s happened in the north-east but on

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the inspection regimes that we have to make sure standards and

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complaints are being dealt with We have journalists like Andrew Norfolk

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who help, of course, to expose the Rotherham abuse scandal. Isn't it a

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matter of concern that whendver some abuse is known, or comes into the

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public arena, the minister lakes a statement. Some way or another, G4S

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is involved and it is a matter that I would have thought would cause

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concern to the Home Secretary and her ministers. I don't, for one

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moment, question the Ministdr 's total objections like the rdst of us

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to any form of discrimination. But, should those responsible for what

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has occurred, the painting of red on doors, where asylum seekers are

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concerned, be told in the clearest possible language that cert`in

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aspects of 1936 Berlin will not be repeated in 2016 Britain? I think we

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need to look at this issue very closely and carefully, that is

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precisely what we have commhtted to do. I do say, in relation to G4S and

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the properties they are providing in the north-east, that we did examine

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around 84 properties which were successfully completed in tdrms of

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those inspections and where there were defects that were identified,

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action has been taken. From our assessment, there are no kex

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performance indicator failures in respect to Middlesbrough. The world

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will examine this further. This house has telegraphed its mdssage

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clearly today in standing against hate crime and discrimination and

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ensuring those here today h`ve sought -- and have sought asylum are

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given a fair welcome to the country, as we would expect. It is mx

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understanding that concerns about this practice of painting doors read

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was first raised in 2012 by my Liberal Democrat colleague Suzanne

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Fletcher. She pursued the issue doggedly ever since, and it is

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largely due to her efforts that the issue has come to light tod`y. She

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was told by G4S that they rdceived no complaints. So there was no need

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to take any action. That cannot be the case. Does that not raise, in

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the Minister's mind, perhaps some suspicion, at least, that an audit

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is going to be required. Yet again, G4S have come to public attdntion

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for the wrong reasons and ydt again they have been found wanting. I can

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say to the right honourable gentleman that the issue of

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complaints and when this was first known to G4S was something that I

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did discuss with the Chief Dxecutive earlier this morning. It is a matter

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that he's committed to examhne further and get to the bottom for

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their satisfaction as to how they've handled this matter. It is `

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question, I think, of doing the audit I have commissioned urgently

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to see what the situation on the ground is and to understand how the

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inspection and audit regime has been conducted thus far. Obviously I

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would want to reflect on wh`t that tells me. Jomast has a major base in

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my constituency. This is not the first time they've come unddr

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national media scrutiny for the wrong reasons. I've visited some of

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the hovels that have apparently passed the test of decent homes

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while the Minister in choirs further into this latest scandal, -,

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enquires. The standards of Teesside accommodation, including hotses of

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multiple occupation in my constituency, and get a better deal

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and value for money for both tenants and the government? As I've already

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indicated to the house, a kdy part of the work that we undertake is to

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see that accommodation is s`fe, habitable and fit for purpose. That

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is what the inspection regile looks act and, to date, the advicd I have

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seen shows that the standards have been met. As part of the audit, we

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will focus on that element `nd see what that information tells us.

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Order. Presentation of Bill. Mr Christopher Chope.

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House of Commons members fund bill. Second reading. What

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