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Hello and welcome to BBC Parliament live coverage of the House of

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Commons. At half past three David Cameron will make a statement to MPs

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on the deal reached with European Union leaders on reforming the terms

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of the UK's membership of the EU. That agreement pave the way for the

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out referendum on the 23rd of June. Mr Cameron announced the date on

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Saturday when he returned from Brussels. The Prime Minister will

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make the case for the EU UK to Burbank. Such is the justice

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secretary and the work and pensions Secretary. The Prime Minister

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statement on the EU will be repeated and debated in the House of Lords as

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well. Member to join me for a round-up of the days debate about

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the EU in both houses of parliament at 11 o'clock this evening. We start

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this question to the home Secretary May.

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Order! Order! Questions to the Secretary of State for the Home

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Department. Question one Mr Speaker. Thank you, the investigator and

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Powers bill has been in close consultation with the industry. The

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cost of the public for implement the provisions will continue to be

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refined as we hope more detailed vote come. They can meet the costs

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themselves. Full cost recovery will reply to operational cost including

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those associated with new obligations under the bill. Thank

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you Mr Speaker, the science and technology committee warned that the

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bill of risk undermining the start we performing tech sector. Will the

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Secretary of State and sure as that the UK businesses will not be placed

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at a commercial disadvantage to overseas competitors? I can assure

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the gentleman that. As I said and my answer to his initial question, we

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will be ensuring that the full cost recovery replies to operational cost

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for any companies who have, except for notices issued to them. What is

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clear is that that is what we have done as the government in the past,

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that is the privileged governments have done and we will continue its.

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Was the home secretary look carefully at the recommendations of

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the joint committee in regards to but recognition of the Internet. We

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were clear that greater clarity is needed on deafness in order to be

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able to allow the private sector to fully cost there for proposals. I

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think the right honourable gentleman, those honourable members

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and any other place to set on that committee and who did an excellent

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job in producing their reports, a very well thought through and

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careful report. We will look very carefully at the issue. We are

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looking awfully on all committees. We will bring forward a revised bill

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proposals in due course. On the specific issue of private

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businesses, could be home secretary outlines what recent discussions she

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or her ministers have had with the devolved ministrations about that

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particular aspect? Discussions with devolved ministrations have been

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going on throughout the preparation of the initial draft bill, and

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indeed have continued and will continue. Also, but will also

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continue its discussions between ministers and officials and the

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companies and private room at private businesses themselves.

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Question number two Mr Speaker. With the mission was a speaker I will

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answer questions two and ten on the order paper together. The minimum

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income threshold of ?18,600 for sponsoring a partner under the

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family immigration roles, and so is that couples wishing to establish

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the family life in the UK do not place burdens on the taxpayer and

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hub motor integration. It is being considered by the courts and upheld

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by the court of appeals. The Low the welfare of immigrants has said that

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these rules discriminately affecting women. 25% get less than 18,600

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compared to 75% of men. This gives young people it is evident as well.

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What actual the home Secretary take to reduce these on sale rules? I

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would say that the threshold was set as advice of the migration advisory

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committee to look very carefully on the levels of income and terms of

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not being a bargain on the taxpayer. The gross median and Scotland in

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2014 racks at 21,725 higher than the threshold. This of legal challenge

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has been raised by the course of Appeal. The threshold was upheld.

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Thinking you Mr Speaker, the Secretary of State will see a story

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reported by the BBC this morning where she fled the area and gave

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birth to her son in the UK. Her husband a Syrian national is unable

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to join the meeting because they cannot afford the fees of these. Can

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Secretary of State tell us with his British nationals should go to enter

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her family life. Her husband home country of Syria? There are various

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different routes that could be available. We have the family

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reunion and route that can apply and circumstances. I'm not familiar with

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all the us is that he highlights. Equally, the government is in

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respect for uncertainties for the protection of the children. This is

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considered by the court and upheld. That gave the point made so

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eloquently by my Honorable friend about not being a burden on the

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taxpayer. To what extent do we take into account, charges made by other

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countries, two British nationals hoping to emigrate to those

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countries? I say, my honourable friend makes a point on different

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immigration systems and different parts of the world. Obviously we

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have taken advice on the migration advisory committee looking at cost

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and look at those pardons to see that someone does not place a burden

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on the UK taxpayer. But his odyssey for other countries to assess what

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is appropriate and their own system. The financial threshold family visas

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is causing particular distress to one of my constituents who cannot

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work the hours required because she is a carer for her vulnerable child.

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This means she is living without her husband and the Taliban without his

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father. Does the Minister acknowledged that he is at risk of

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creating a generation of children whose only contact with one of their

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parents will be via Skype? Now, I don't except the point the Honorable

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Lady makes. These issues of the welfare of the child are absolutely

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part of the consideration that the takes, this was a matter that was

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considered by the courts of the pale. And firmly upheld. I would say

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to the Honorable lady that when this issue of the -- all being said in

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November 2011, the migration advisory committee gave a lower

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threshold of 18,600 but equally advise the national could have been

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set at 25,000 700. The Government reflected in those circumstances and

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set it to level as it has done. That little has been upheld by the court.

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The Minister has mentioned the court of appeal but the matter is not

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entirely set from a legal point of view because this week the Supreme

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Court will hold the cases of two but is nationals who cannot meet these

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tough financial rules to allow their not EU spouses to come and live with

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them. The Honorable member for Hampstead and Coburn has mentioned

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that according to the children's Commissioner for England there are

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15,000 British children growing up via Skype. How can the Minister

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justified the stress and anxiety caused by these children -- to these

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children for the other flexible and unjust rule. I don't accept the

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characterisation that the honourable lady has proven to. I does recognise

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the number that she has proffered. I do say, that it is about good

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immigration, it is in relation to language in terms of mapping a

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bargain to the taxpayer but equally promoting integration. We believe

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the policy is ineffective in doing that. ... Last year the conservative

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call on the government to change these rules. Melting, the

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significant contribution made by millions of Brooke Britons living

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as the Minister of Rome as the opposition, will he at least listen

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to his own party and get rid of these rules was to scrimmage against

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hard-working families? I say again to the honourable lady that we do

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not believe that the rules are discriminatory, and the way that she

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is a just and characterises, the system is in place to ensure a good

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integration and is absurd that people are not a burden on the

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taxpayer. I thought that was something she would recognise as

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being a positive aspect of the policy to make sure that people can

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contribute and settle. The rules have been set, and upheld by the

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court and look at the two of underline those key things. With

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permission I will answer questions three and 16 on the order paper

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together. Border force carries out 100% of the tax. They deliver an

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effective and intelligent responses for a range of security threats.

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They used equipment and a range of search techniques. I think the home

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secretary for that answer but last of the birth of eminent fives were

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found in a container in my constituency, that came just three

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weeks after 20 immigrants were found of wear. Given that my local border

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forces are facing cuts, how can the secretary reassure me that these

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cuts are not damaging the safety and security? The approach that we are

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taking to these matters comes across in a number of ways. First of all,

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in relation to water forth, we are looking to edge does this

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technology, but also to an Benedike Howedes make sure they can operate

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successfully. It will be a much more intelligent lead approach. We can

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target what they need to be in accordance with the intelligence,

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and also this government has enhanced our ability to deal with

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organised crime. This is an issue that the national crime agency set

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up by the last Coalition government is taking very seriously and is

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acting on. Thank you, I have ten electronic passports case and my

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efficiency at the airport of my department is unable to tell me how

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many people travelled through. And how often they malfunction and how

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many were Texans they are. Does the home Secretary agree with me that

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the warning -- as identified by the office, this is one of them and it

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should be looked into? What I say is that I think that the increased

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number of each day for checking passports that we have is a good

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move. It's and hat security at our border. Thank you Mr Speaker, I have

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been trying to figure out how many people arrive at UK airports without

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valid travel documents. I'm very surprised that nobody seems to be

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able to give me an answer to this. Within minutes be able to give me an

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answer and if not hesitate to ask them to find out this important

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matter? I can tell my honourable friend that 18,000 individuals were

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refused at entry at the border in 2014 equity those who were

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travelling on an valid documentation. When somebody comes

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the UK border they are subjected to a range of tax we have offices at

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the border who trained and are able to detect forged documents and steps

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are being taken to intercept those individuals who don't have the

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correct documents of of a bit over at the border. And I congratulate

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the home Secretary are the words as he sat on the value of EU membership

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in terms of protecting the safety and security of this country. Can I

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ask her, even though that is the case and I agree with her could we

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have more specific focus on the quieter port, the quieter airports

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were the smuggling gangs know it is quieter? I indicated in my response

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earlier to one of his honourable friend, that the way border forces

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of prejudice as in a much intelligent lead basis, so that they

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can be flexible in relation to the staff that employed in different

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ports, professing recognising, that we don't eat as a focus on one or 24

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22 focus on a range of ports. -- focus on one or two ports. We need

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to rely on strong EU coordinated approach to security including at

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our borders and our ports. The Secretary of State and I know road

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that we rely on EU criminal justice and security measures. And those

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circumstances, I assume that the home office carried out a risk

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assessment on the impact of UK withdraw and the EU on security at

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ports. Recommended of the public who have not yet decided how to vote in

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the referendum access the conclusions? I have dissected say to

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the honourable gentleman, I'm not sure that his parliamentary language

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for me to repeat Mr Speaker. He can rest assured that argument there

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relations of these matters will be fully set out for people over the

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coming months. One of the arguments I put, he will have no because he

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was involved in this and a different capacity before he came into this

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chamber. It was around issues like the operation of various sizes and

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home affairs meshes is what we set out very clearly as the government

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by without the benefit was in being part of those measures. Tony Smith

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the interim head of the UK border for from 20 1213 said that a vote to

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leave the EU would pose a lot of issues for the border force who is

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already under huge pressure. In particular he highlighted the fact

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that the border for staff would have to carry out more attacks on EU

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citizens. Can the Secretary of State confirm that the border for school

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and the fact to face more cuts year on year for the foreseeable future?

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I'm happy to say that anybody who comes to the UK border, anybody

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receives a stringent checks at the UK border, we are doing that now on

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a much more intelligent lead basis, in terms of looking at individuals

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who may be of concern, and yes he is right that we have interactions with

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other member states and the European Union to the use of things like a

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system to identify people who are of concern who are coming across the

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border. Border forth and other operations are not about people, the

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about goods and bridges are good and illegal goods being brought into the

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UK. That is where the intelligence led approach can be helpful in

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identifying when the areas of concern and action being taken

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appropriate of properly. But commission on what action questions

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four and 14 on the order paper. Crime commissioners, sorry for and

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13. Crime commissioners are providing a comfortable position and

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making a real difference to policing locally. There has been a reduction

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in crime and more than a quarter sensor and seduction. -- production.

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There is already good process of scrutiny that is available through

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the piece and crime panels, for looking at any potential crime that

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police may have. That process it is enshrined and is being taken. What I

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do is when any area is looking at the potential for roles, for such as

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we have in the greater Manchester area in relation to peace and crime

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commissioner with the productive mayor of that area. There is full

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consideration of all the aspects of the issue to ensure that going ahead

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they can give it to do so properly without conflict of interest as

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ensuring that the best services delivered. Thank you Mr Speaker, my

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local police force received a positive inspection report from the

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home inspector. With my right honourable friend join me and please

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do the work of the constable at the conservative police and crime

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commissioner and their efforts to fight crime and specifically the

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chief constables national work on the prevent programme. I'm very

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happy to exit and congratulations I'm sure everybody across his house

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to the excellent work that is being done by the chief constable and the

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peace and crime commissioner. They have done an job and the crime

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commissioner will be stepping down. But I would like to thank them for

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the work that he has done over his first term at peace and crime

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commissioner. The main problem that the South Yorkshire police and crime

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commissioner faces is the shortfall in his budget was Roosevelt and too

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much 250 police jobs being lost. It makes rational planning difficult.

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With the home Secretary agreed that the PCs can do the job better if

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they had the budget set at the remainder of the Parliament of what

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will they do about it? The pitcher he has had out is not the one that I

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recognise. We have protected, police budgets, across the period of the

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Comprehensive Spending Review. I would have thought that he would

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have welcome that given that his front this one of the cut by 10%. A

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recent reports by the British retail consultant found that these crimes

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have gone up by 25%. What action was the home Secretary take to and a

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vote for commissioners to take act against any level of violence

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against retail staff. What action can be take to reduce this? First of

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all, I think we are all concerned about Violet Maxine taken place. It

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is a matter of real concern. The operational response to such crimes

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being committed and the business of such crimes as a matter for the

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chief Constable of the particular for the area to look into. I know

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there are a number of retail chain to ever working very closely. To try

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to ensure that they are able to provide added support and security

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for the staff. Although I have had my differences that time with the

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pleasing crime commissioner and the concert, when my right honourable

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friend agree with me that his record along with the biggest Achilles, and

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reducing crime is exemplary and is an example to all? I would again

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congratulate and walk him see what that is being done in the concert

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and relation to the reduction of crime by the chief Constable and the

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pleasing crime commissioner. It is not the only area where we have been

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able to see crime solving but I think that the following McNish or

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has been significant. -- Lancashire. Can I ask if she has any statement

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from the North have a sure crime commissioner from his panel? It is

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expected that the full transfer funding from the urban areas to more

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rural areas and that the city will benefit. As developing government

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policy or is it just letting the cat of the bag? I would have tossed the

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ombudsman would be aware, we have Derek Lilley said that the proposed

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changes that we were... We're trying to develop a formula that is

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affected of the needs. I also sent to the ombudsman he looks across the

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at police forces across the area he will see that the funding formula

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needs to change. Question five Mr Speaker. Mr Mike Penning, we ask

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permission to answer questions on the order paper. Pleasing crime

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commissioners will have a duty to collaborate on the Bill before this

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house becomes a law. Hampshire fire service and handsets of the services

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share a building resulting and financial sufficiency. Will he

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congratulated me and taking a lead and collaborative working. I was

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there recently and saw for myself deeply working is being done between

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the emergency services. The collaboration with the chief and the

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chief Constable as of the PCC to, they are doing excellent work. The

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map of my Honorable friend agree that it is important that the new

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generation of pleasing crime commissioners who have been elected,

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or will be elected in a couple months' time get behind this

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important reform. Will he join me in welcoming the commitment of the

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excellent PCC candidates and his strong desire to implement these

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subtler forms? We need to make sure that we spending taxpayer money

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efficiently and well and collaboration and that is the best

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way for that. She is really a shy or tiring so. The fire and rescue

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services collaborating very well all over the country, particularly with

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the ambulance trusts. Will you tell us why he sees necessary under the

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new bill, that the police and crime commissioners would actually take

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control of the fire services, surely the two organizations are so

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different in so many ways. You can have the collaboration without the

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PCC running our fire services. I think is of the matter, someone who

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is duly able to run that like a PCC should be on any committee. I'm sure

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we would want an efficient emergency service, before I service working

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closely with the police is the way we would like to do that.

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Collaboration with the services will be the communication network. How

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much will they cause, and though one day be in place? -- and when will

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they be in place. There are bits out there and the moment, it will be

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confidential at the moment. What we do know is that the air racism that

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we have had needs replacing, it is very expensive and this will be

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cheaper. The pleasing crime commissioner will put forward a

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business case to take over the governments of Hampshire for fire

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rescue services. My honourable friend pointed out what they already

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doing, we already have a trading arm which pays for the governments of

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the fire and rescue Authority. What this is the police and fire

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commission approved for that would allow him to run the service? If the

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local community wants to have a more efficient service which could be the

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case, and accept that they are particularly good. When I was in

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Hampshire there were people asking me for more collaboration, more work

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to be done to particularly from the front lines which is the most

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important the plaintiff. Given the cuts and funding to the police

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service, and the fire and rescue services already budgeted for by

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this government, can the Minister guarantee that placing fire and left

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the services under PCC control will not lead to further cut in the

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numbers of front line firefighters? This is bigger, thank goodness the

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chances of not listen to labor front bench to relive the funding for the

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please worked until 2020 because office they of a 10% cut. What we

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must make sure, what we must make sure is that we have an efficient

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service and that will be going for. Thank you Mr Speaker. Tackling crime

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is a priority for government. Show that knife crime is 14% lower than

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it was in June 2010, we recognise that there is more to do and new

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actions to tackle knife crime will be set out in the modern crime

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prevention strategy. I think my honourable friend for the first bite

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the. -- knife what action is her department taken to Brook -- tackle

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knife crime. Can I think my honourable friend for his question,

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and congratulate him on the new arrival, new baby who I believe was

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very involved in the delivery. I am also aware of the concerns about

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knife crimes and Essex, and I recently met with my right

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honourable friend and I have been more than happy to meet with him to

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discuss precisely this issue. The taking if they just steps, and early

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this month be supported 30 police forces, including Essex. They

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undertook coordinated action against knife crime. Thank you Mr Speaker.

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Knife crime, bike other crime is best dealt with preemptively. In

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Sussex crime has gone up 8%, and yet today the government inspector said

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that routinely front-line, neighbourhood, and local police and

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being taken away. Kenny Minister please be looked at the thousand

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front-line police officers and staff that are being taken away and for

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the impact neighbourhood policing? Mr Speaker, can I start when it's a

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-- comes to Sussex. Congratulating the police commissioner. At that

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hair, and we discussed to take she's I think he should remember the boat

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that he made in this house to cut police resources by 10%, something

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that decided the House disagreed with. Thank you Mr Speaker. Recently

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and Darby a young man lost his life. Lester, knife years rose across the

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UK. Can I ask my right honourable friend what steps the department are

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taking to tackle the scourge of individuals from carrying knives? My

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honourable friend is right. We do need to educate and show them people

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that caring matters is not school, it's not something that they should

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be doing. It's a big that they should understand is dangerous and

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can result in loss of life. That is why in the last parliament we

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legislated so that if someone is caught with a knife twice they have

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a mandatory prison sentence, and we are doing more work. I would be more

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than happy to work with her and discuss the specific issues and

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Darby which I do know have... Have the Minister considered amnesty to

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invite people to hand in weapons, whether it be knives or other

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weapons, it was very successful in the West Midlands. Mr Speaker, that

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is a matter for chief constables to determine. I said that we worked

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with 13 forces including within that work, world knife amnesties.

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Question number seven. Discussions with

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to ensure that the public are aware and protected from fraud. It is the

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mission to counter the wicked work of fraudsters. While I actually

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understand the difficulties and effectively policing the Internet,

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financial scams judging by my own parliamentary accounts, seem to be

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out of control. The most older people are being targeted. When my

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right honourable friend have another look at this issues and see if there

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is a way that we can bring these criminals to account? It's because

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we have taken a fresh look at this. Just as my honourable friend

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recommends that we have launched the joint task force, we are continuing

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to support the supply of the streetwise campaign which makes

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people more aware and guarded about fraud, but we have invested 90

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million, and one point billion and two security over the next years. We

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take this seriously. In the cyber age, I am a cyber minister up to the

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minute, up to the mark, and up to the job. LAUGHTER We would expect no

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less of the right honourable gentleman. Can I ask the cyber

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minister, as it seems to be -- since he is up to the mark, about the

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activities of a website which was discovered recently

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selling the stolen bank details of 100,000 British citizens? Since he

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is an up to the minute cyber minister, how is it possible for

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this website to carry on for six months before it was closed down?

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How much of the 1.9 billion that he is targeting on cyber crime will be

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used to proactively close downsides of this kind? The honourable

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gentleman knows because his committee has drawn attention to did

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in the past, that it is critically important that the government works

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with all other agencies including banks and private sector

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organizations, any task force has permission to do that. It is summed

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up by this. They have publicly signed up to commit their full

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support to work in partnership to protect the public from being

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victims of fraud, scams, and maximise opportunities to prevent

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fraudster from operating in the way that he recommended. Mr Speaker, the

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cyber minister will know that you are more likely to be marked online

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than in the street. -- mocked. Will the home secretary confirmed that

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after fighters of her government saying cut crime,. The tooth will be

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told that far from falling, crying is changing. Our country now faces

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crime doubling when this government continues to cut the number of

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police officer. The honourable gentleman will be disappointed to

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know that I am going to say that he is right. I remind him that we are

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the government that made the decision to publish the statistics,

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and to designate cyber crime and the way that we have. Until we

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appreciate the scale of the problem we won't develop the solutions

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necessary to deal with that. I would also say to him, as he will know,

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that we are using some of that extra resources to set up the national

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cyber centre to co-ordinate work in this area. Thank you Mr Speaker. The

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government has provided funding. It is interesting work that is going

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forward. Naturally, we will help encourage PC sees in the country to

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reduce crime, support victims, and closely engorged Democrats engage.

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The American comedian Eddie Cantor said that those currently on the

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most wanted list have been the most wanted as children, they would no

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longer be on the most wanted list. In that context, with the Minister

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welcomed the work that his department is doing with the early

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intervention foundation in creating police leaders academies on early

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intervention. Will he ensure that funding is available so that every

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police Commissioner a elected this year can attend courses this year.

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Can I praise the work of the early intervention foundation and the work

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that they're doing is important. Other agencies do important work,

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but we know about if we can catch them young to me compared to them

:36:11.:36:19.

from becoming criminals. Following the government's troubled families

:36:20.:36:23.

programme, it can be any doubt that early intervention works. It

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produces petty crime, encourages school attendance, gets people into

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jobs. What became clear and why this is welcome with the Minister is

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saying, without the active participation of the police, those

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programmes are so ineffectual. I hope that we will ensure that every

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chief constable in Commissioner will regard this in hype a wordy. I am

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sure that everyone has heard with my right honourable friend has said.

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That is why we put the money into the foundation, that is why we are

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doing the review at the moment into the police early intervention

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academy so that we can prove -- improve the outcomes. Humberside

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police is 500 fewer officers than five years ago, and of course across

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North Lincolnshire... Isn't it the case that the reality for the police

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on the ground is that early intervention is not a priority and

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it is being pushed onto ill resourced local authorities. Mr

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Speaker, I am sure that... Every single time we hear from the Labour

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Party they want more money and yet their front bench want to cut the

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funding to the police force. That is what the reality is, not what is

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actually going on. Number 11 Mr Speaker. Bear with me Mr Speaker. Mr

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Speaker, as I wrote earlier there are four police forces currently

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using track my crime. There are more coming on force, and 22 forces will

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have it available to them. I think the Minister for that answer. How

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successful has tracked my crime bend and supporting victims of crime and

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keeping them up to date and supporting them in the process of

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these matters being back investigated? When I broke this

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earlier, the tooth -- wrote. Victims have the confidence to

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actually believe in their justice system. Track my Crime will help

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that. The evidence gathering stage of the review has been done.

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18,000 police officers have been cut in the last five years. Is it really

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sensible to waste scarce police resources and enforcing a ban on

:39:29.:39:34.

poppers and criminalizing users other relatively harmless substance.

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I hope that the honourable gentleman will welcome the psychoactive

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substances act, because that blanket ban on the effect of these

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substances that we do not know what they do to young people and that

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they caused deaths is incredibly important. When it comes to poppers

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we have a commitment to reviewing the benefits of poppers against the

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harms to see whether they should be included. Question number 14 Mr

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Speaker. Thank you Mr Speaker. The modern slavery act, it is too early

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to make it effective -- make effectiveness of this act. Some

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businesses are already published a statement setting out what steps

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they've taken to prevent moderates lately in they're gloating surprise

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James. Am grateful for that reply. He writes that the role that the

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private sector can play in the fight against slavery should not be

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underestimated. What assessment has she made so far of the effectiveness

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of the transparency and supply chain's provision in the act for

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companies of turnovers with ?36 million or more. He is right. It is

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not about law enforcement and government taking action, it is

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about working with the private sector and with businesses. I am

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pleased that although the first set of declarations and relation to

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supply chains is only from the 31st of March, we have seen a number of

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companies going forward and making this declaration. I will in a month

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or so hold an event with companies to share good practice so that we

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can make sure that we are getting the best event, ending consumers can

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make their decision. Despite some of the good measures in the act, the

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fact is that child trafficking is still taking place across the

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European Union. It is taken within the scandal that is the migration

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crisis. What work is the home Secretary doing with her colleagues

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across the European Union to make sure that this issue is adequately

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tackled across all 28 Member States? First of all, I am encouraging other

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member state to take the steps that we are taking in terms of

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interesting new legislation adjective at the modern slavery act.

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Secondly, we are working with organised immigration crime --

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immigration crime. Quack I think that this is of enormous

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benefit because he is an expert in this area. Further to the question,

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could my right honourable friend set out in more detail the importance of

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the transparency and supply chains in the modern slavery act, and

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perhaps how it will be monitored in the future? Not to too much detail,

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given the time. I think that it has to import and fax. It makes

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companies think about the issues of the supply chains and whether there

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is slavery. Secondly, there are declarations as to what or no action

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they have taken, will be available to consumers, and they can make sure

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-- make choices. We are looking at a number of options for ensuring that

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that information is publicly available in one place. May I make

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the right honourable lady aware about doing excellent work in my

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constituency. I am shocked to hear the extent of modern slavery in this

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country. Does she think that people are sufficiently aware and what can

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she do to highlight that? Can I say to the honourable gentlemen we are

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are aware of the work of this organisation does. He is right. Most

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people in this country are shocked to know that shaped An slavery takes

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place, and would be more shocked to see the degree and extent of it. It

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is up to everyone in this house to make sure that everyone knows that

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they do. The government is and challenge Daesh's mitigation. I

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think the Minister for that response. Daesh is committing

:44:20.:44:25.

atrocities against others who do not agree with them with their way of

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life. What is the government doing to communicate those viscosities

:44:30.:44:33.

across the UK to prevent the spread of extreme it -- extremism across

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the UK. We have to challenge those extreme opinions. The UK's

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government highlights hyperbole is of Daesh. We work with those that I

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described a minute ago, 130 based community projects were delivered in

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2015, reaching 20 5000 people. That's 20 5000. I am glad that in

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this most solemn of matter and the honourable gentleman has been able

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to provide us with the political florist. Question number one served.

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Last week I was in Washington I think ministerial. A set that is

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really. 2014, Daesh directed, inspired, or enabled attacks in

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other countries worldwide. In 2015 there are almost 60 attacks, as well

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as well is to budget the tax tear it up by Daesh branches, including

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those in Libya and Egypt. This is a fight that cannot be won by five --

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fighting in isolation. We should be more open and sharing intelligence,

:45:58.:46:08.

and our expertise. We must organise our own efforts effectively to

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support vulnerable state and improve their ability to respond to the

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threat from terrorism. We made commitments to strengthen

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information sharing, enhanced efforts and discourage social media.

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This is the child's of our generation, and one that we will win

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by working together. Thank you Mr Speaker. I think my right honourable

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friend for her answer. But she acted with me that the creation of this

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was the step in the right direction, and this will change radically the

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future and take on more responsibilities? I agree with my

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honourable friend. It was important to create that directly elected

:46:50.:46:53.

individual, accountable to the public a little cruising. The call

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from police and crime commission is because you want to see that role of

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all. My right honourable friend are already in discussions about how

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this will might revolve and as to the criminal justice system stop

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can recommend the home Secretary on her announcement this began, and on

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her decision to put the national interest before self-interest.

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Unlike others. When she began at some secretary she took a

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Eurosceptic stance, opting out of dozens of EU measures. She has since

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opted back into many, most recently on the sharing of fingerprinting and

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DNA. Is it fair to say that the realities of office has shown her

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the value of EU cooperation in tackling crime and terrorism, and

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changed her mind on print's membership of the EU? I have always

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been very clear about the value of cooperation when it is in the

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British national interest. That is what of the 35 measures that we have

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decided to propose it this house should opt back into, and relation

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to critical 36, it was precisely because we believed it was of a

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national interest. I think I will take that as a yes Mr Speaker.

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Yesterday the Prime Minister was explicitly clear that our membership

:48:17.:48:21.

in the EU helps Britain fight terrorism. But, within minutes he

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was directly contradicted by one of his own cabinet members who claims

:48:26.:48:32.

that the each -- UK's EU membership made a terrorist attack are likely.

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Coming from an array senior members of the Cabinet, it is downright

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irresponsible. Will the home Secretary take this opportunity to

:48:44.:48:48.

reaffirm Government policy on this crucial issue and condemn this

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baseless scaremongering. Hear, hear! The government's issue is clear. I

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am clear that there are more areas in which cooperation with other

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Member States in the European Union is in our benefit in terms of the

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national security of this country and dealing with criminal matters.

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As I indicated earlier, and response to questions, we do take security at

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our borders seriously and that is why we have the checks that we do.

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The government has agreed to work when -- work and create new

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initiatives. Can the Minister confirm in the initiative will begin

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and which organizations the government will work with to help

:49:37.:49:40.

identify those children? Can I thank my honourable friend for her

:49:41.:49:44.

question. We are working with the NHC are in relation to development

:49:45.:49:52.

of a new initiative. Discussions are ongoing with the, we have had round

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table discussions. You will come back when our consideration has

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concluded. Thank you Mr Speaker. Following on in the vein of

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trafficking, I would like to ask the question of a constituent of I Blake

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cannot name because of her vulnerability. She was human traffic

:50:16.:50:19.

from Nigeria to the UK, held in domestic slavery in London, and

:50:20.:50:24.

escaped over ten years ago to my constituency. She now has a family

:50:25.:50:27.

and a husband. Her children were born in Scotland, but you cannot get

:50:28.:50:33.

help. Her the home office has not been helpful. Can the Minister meet

:50:34.:50:36.

with me and see what can be done to help his family settled in Scotland?

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Can I say to the honourable lady that she raises what appeared to be

:50:42.:50:46.

a serious individual case. If I may, Mr Speaker, if I can speak to the

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honourable lady after the station and obtained some more details we

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will respond. Thank you Mr Speaker. I met with a number of police

:50:58.:51:01.

officers and my constituency who have witnessed extreme trauma. The

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arrangements for their sick pay and their medical discharge and pension

:51:10.:51:13.

seem to be strikingly different to that of those who have suffered

:51:14.:51:16.

physical injury in the courts of their duty. Does my right honourable

:51:17.:51:19.

friend agree with the Vatican and the government's pursuit of parity

:51:20.:51:26.

between mental and physical illness, police forces should be ensuring

:51:27.:51:30.

that all injury or illness that is attributable to service is supported

:51:31.:51:36.

in the same way. I agree with my right honourable friend. Police

:51:37.:51:39.

officers are entitled to exactly the same sick leave and pay arrangements

:51:40.:51:43.

suffer a mental or a physical on this. Request is subject to same

:51:44.:51:51.

task, and is is possibility of chief constables that they provide for

:51:52.:51:54.

that in their local policies. I am also pleased to say that in October

:51:55.:52:00.

2014, the government allocated ?8 million to the blue light services

:52:01.:52:04.

programme to support the mental and physical well-being of emergency

:52:05.:52:08.

services personnel. The government have always justified their cuts to

:52:09.:52:12.

policing on the basis that crime has not gone up. Since 2010, we have

:52:13.:52:19.

lost more officers than any other force. Crime in Manchester is going

:52:20.:52:26.

up and going up faster than other metropolitan areas. As crime

:52:27.:52:30.

continues to rise, with the government reasonably be considered

:52:31.:52:32.

the production to the number of front line police officers? Lets go

:52:33.:52:37.

of this again. We as a government have not produced a number of police

:52:38.:52:41.

officers on the front line. And front line times, the percentage

:52:42.:52:44.

have gone up. One party that wanted to cut the police budget was the

:52:45.:52:50.

Labour Party. That was a people we do not to. Thank you Mr Speaker.

:52:51.:52:57.

What steps the secretary of state taking to see what we are doing to

:52:58.:53:03.

better protect the public. We are taking a number of steps as a piece

:53:04.:53:07.

of work that is being undertaken to ensure that we look at where

:53:08.:53:11.

capabilities should best light in terms of police reform. I just

:53:12.:53:17.

others this year and relation to this matter. I am happy to say that

:53:18.:53:21.

I have been able to have discussion on precisely this matter with an

:53:22.:53:26.

honourable friend who if he becomes mayor of London will continue this.

:53:27.:53:36.

The chief Rob Wainwright has ordered up to 5000 ices fighters in the EU.

:53:37.:53:42.

How does the home Secretary Phil that being in the EU makes us safer?

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The honourable gentleman will be aware that what is important for the

:53:49.:53:52.

United Kingdom and being in the European Union is that we are able

:53:53.:53:56.

to continue with the border controls that we have. Unlike those country

:53:57.:54:00.

and sang and, we will never be an changing, and read will maintain our

:54:01.:54:10.

security checks. Hear, hear! Mr Speaker! The Prime Minister has

:54:11.:54:14.

claimed that he has delivered on his promise that if an EU job seeker has

:54:15.:54:20.

not found work within six months they will be required to leave. A

:54:21.:54:25.

promise that he made to JCB workers on the 20th of November 20 14. In

:54:26.:54:34.

reply to my worker -- a written question, number 17574 in December

:54:35.:54:39.

of last year, the integration committee admitted that Aidan EU

:54:40.:54:42.

migrants and keep the status of the job seeker for longer than six

:54:43.:54:47.

months. Can the home secretary clarified who is right? The Prime

:54:48.:54:50.

Minister or the immigration minister? I think that we can safely

:54:51.:54:56.

say that the Prime Minister is right. In a few moments time he will

:54:57.:55:00.

be able to hew precisely how the Prime Minister has set up out. Mr

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Speaker, I was proud to be able to joint housing for women last week to

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celebrate the first anniversary of their operating the women's refuge.

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They support 38 women and children and 2015. Unfortunately, not all

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refugees are in the same position. 30 have closed over the last year.

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42% of crisis and is not having money beyond next month. Can the

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home Secretary do everything she can to ensure that no woman is forced to

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return home to a violent partner and possibly her death? The honourable

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lady, I remember the days when she and I both served on the Council for

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the London Borough of Merton. She continues to take in this issue

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domestic violence and support for the victims and survivors of

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domestic violence. Of course, the government has put extra money into

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refugees. We have been able to do that and we have also been ensuring

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that we support money for various domestic violence services. This is

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a terrible time -- crime and we need to deal with that. What assessment

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has been made about a number of connections made by police forces

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for child abuse images date is basis to be launched? My honourable friend

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raise and important issues. Child abuse image database. Something that

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this government into dues and is leading the world in terms of

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tackling indecent images of children online. We now have all 43 forces

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connected to the image database. We are starting to see real results in

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protecting children. Where police, fire and rescue services,. Will the

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Minister did a guarantee that whatever happened that there that --

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that they would allow the services provided to be privatised? The whole

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reason for enabling police and crime commission is to bring together

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policing and fire and rescue services is to be able to offer

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enhanced services. In looking at a decision to be on a local level, a

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business it -- case will Mr Speaker, the commission I would

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like to make a statement on the agreements reached in Brussels last

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week. First let me say a word about the migration crisis which was also

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discussed at the European Council. We agreed that we needed to press

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ahead with strengthening the use borders to ensure that not the

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charges are returned promptly and back the new mission that has

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brought the

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