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Join me for a round-up of the day in both houses of parliament at 11pm

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tonight but first we have questions to the Attorney General.

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The CPS continues to improve its response to cases involving rape

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allegations and other forms of serious sexual offending and has

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taken a number of steps to improve the conviction rate, including

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increasing the number of specialist staff within its reach and serious

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sexual offence unit and improved specialist training for prosecutors.

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Despite claims of the highest number of convictions ever, in the last two

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years conviction rates for rape, domestic abuse and other sexual

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offences have fallen. What does the Minister intend to do to rectify

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this? Midge honourable gentleman rightly points to the fact the

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actual number of convictions continue to increase, which means

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justice for more rape victims and it is right the CPS bring cases to

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duties and it is a matter for Judy is to determine whether or not a

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suspect is guilty or not. -- what I would see as increased funding for

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the units means an improved early engagement sought the experience of

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victims becomes a better one and it is the tried and tested evidence and

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the experience of victims is a vital. Part of improving the

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evidence for victims is the use of live like, where they do not have to

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to the court building to give evidence. There was a report

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published this week but recognise that what they do say although in

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some areas it is doing very well, and others, to quote, the court and

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CPS were not comfortable with live links even though the technology was

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available. What more can be done to spread the consistency in its

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update? My honourable friend is quite right to highlight that. In

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places like Kent Best practice is being demonstrated and with regard

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to national training which is happening we are to seek more use of

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live links from victim's homes and other safe places to avoid the

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terrible ordeal in many cases of coming to court to give cases --

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evidence. Providing effective and compassionate support for victims

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and survivors of sexual violence as pivotal to ensuring more of these

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crimes are reported in the first place. And ultimately more offenders

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brought to justice. Therefore, can the Minister tell me how the

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Government intend to improve victim and witness care within the criminal

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justice system? The honourable lady may only know there has been revised

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guidance to prosecutors and CPS staff about victim and witness care

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in the courts that it's already been rolled out with increased staff in

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the court system. This helps and supports witnesses and victims

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through the process. More work is being done and will be done to

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ensure that the objective she and I share are met. Well the general

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welcome the starter sticks that show more cases for young victims being

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prosecuted than ever? I certainly do and it importantly makes the point

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that when it comes to people's' lives more individuals are finding

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their cases are being hurt and justice being done upon the

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perpetrators of these appalling offences. What discussions at the

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Minister had but as a part in the Northern Ireland Assembly about the

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possibility of extending clear's loan to the province. -- clear's

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all. -- clear's all. I would include a supporter of that legislation and

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would be happy to discussion with colleagues and Northern Ireland but

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of course it is a devolved matter but if it would help then of course

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I would. Question number two, Mr Speaker. With permission I will

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answer this question along with question number five. You'd European

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Arrest Warrant makes it easier to extradite foreign suspects to where

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they are wanted for crimes and bring suspects back to the UK to face

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justice for crimes committed here. It is the quickest and most

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economical way to do these things and other member states would not be

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bound to cooperate with others in the same way every left the EU. --

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cooperate with us. I remember the first European piece of legislation

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I delegated on, a regulation enabling us to track paedophiles

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more easily across different European countries and why anybody

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would wish to end that kind of cooperation between European

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countries is beyond me. With the Attorney General agree with me that

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the exit campaign is soft on crime and soft on the causes of crime? I

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have great respect for those who argue for a British exit from the EU

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but unless I believe they are wrong and for the reasons he gives, there

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is considerable advantage to Britain and British citizens and being part

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of the European Arrest Warrant. Just to be clear, as the Attorney General

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like if we were noble not part of the European Arrest Warrant

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criminals from the continent would see Britain as a safe haven because

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of the extradition and concerns they would not be taken back quickly? I

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think that is no doubt that the quickest and easiest way of

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deporting those who are criminals and face prosecution and other

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European nations is to use the European Arrest Warrant. Those who

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argue for exit from the EU would have to explain what alternative

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measures they would put in place to achieve the same objective. I am in

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no doubt that the quickest and easiest way to do that is through

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the European Arrest Warrant and any delay in that process has serious

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consequences. Does my right honourable friend position take

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account of the European Court of Justice ruling on the 5th of April

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which effectively puts a court of horses to the Hall of the arrest

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warrant procedure because it makes it clear the European court of

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justice is in charge of whether or not the European Arrest Warrant can

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be applied for? I don't think it is quite bad as my honourable friend

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suggests and in fact I think what the European Court of Justice said

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is a broadly consistent with what our own extradition act says and of

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course you will note in relation to the countries that were mentioned in

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that particular judgment we already succeed and extraditing people to

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those countries, one of them is Romania, and he may like to note 268

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people have been extradited to Romania since 2007. In the Witney

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Gazette the Prime Minister was quoted as saying this about the

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European Arrest Warrant, some other countries in Europe do not have our

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rights and safeguards and people can languish in jail for weeks without

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being charged and I'm not that shortly but those people realise

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what is being done and that name. I'll be happy we would want

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telephone call from the Greek, Spanish or German authorities

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alleging we did something rotten holiday can then be swept off to a

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continental prison? Rights we have enjoyed for centuries been stripped

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away? As the Attorney General agree with the Prime Minister? I don't

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know why my right honourable friend the Prime Minister wrote that

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because as my honourable friend may recall the Prime Minister and other

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members of the Government successfully negotiated changes to

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the European Arrest Warrant to do precisely what these problems. Now

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you citizens cannot be extradited unless the case to trial ready, but

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unless the conduct in question would be a crime here. CPS prosecutors

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what with law enforcement ages to prosecute serious crime and draw

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porn cooperation to secure evidence and agree how and where -- draw upon

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cooperation to secure how and when evidence can be secured. What is the

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Government doing to ensure IRA terrorists are being brought back to

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the UK to face justice to your? Can I assure my honourable friend cases

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involving IRA suspects would be considered in just the same way as

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any other case. The special crime and counterterrorism division deals

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with cases of alleged terrorism. If the suspect is out with the

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jurisdiction that extradition would be considered at the prosecution

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evidential called test is met. I hope the Minister has seen that yet

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another accused criminal has fled to Pakistan this week and isn't it a

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fact we need greater European cooperation because we have no

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extradition treaty with Pakistan and when a serious crime is committed to

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often the perpetrator flees to Pakistan and we can't bring them

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back, however heinous the crime? I entirely agree with the honourable

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gentleman. I mentioned multi-jurisdictional cases, often

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these perpetrators cover more than one EU country and it is vital we

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have the mechanism is not just of cooperation, but of enforcement that

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our membership of the EU guarantees which is why I am a strong supporter

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of remaining within the EU. Number four, Mr Speaker. Under article 50

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of the Treaty on the EU, if the UK were to leave the EU it would lead

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to negotiating conclude a agreement with the remaining states setting

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out the agreement for withdrawal. They would continue to apply to the

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UK until article 50 came into force within two years if no agreement is

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reached and no extension granted. Any further changes to the UK's

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legal obligations will depend on any further international agreements

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entered into. Newcastle has a thriving legal services sector and

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many internationally renowned forms as well as two excellent degree

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courses at our universities. With the Attorney General agree with me

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that leaving the EU would mean we would face years of uncertainty and

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confusion as to our legal framework which would necessarily undermine

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the success of both our legal and financial services sector. I should

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first of all say I have boundless faith in the ingenuity and

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entrepreneurial spirit of our legal profession and ensure they would

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find a reason. But she is right that there would be considerable

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uncertainty after any departure from the European union and that is at

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least an part because there is a regulatory structure in this country

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was substantially depends on European regulation currently and we

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would have to decide how much we wish to keep and how much to change

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and she may know that progression Derek Wyatt, one of the leading

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experts on European law, recently gave evidence to the house of Lords

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EU committee of MPs said the following, it will take years upon

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Government and to examine EU law and decide what to jettison and what to

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keep. It is one of the reasons the Government believes we're better off

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within the EU. Given his immense legal brain and

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huge legal capabilities, will he confirm that the House today that he

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would want to remain as Attorney General should this country voted to

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leave the European Union so that he personally would be best placed to

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negotiate a super-duper British exit agreement in double quick time? Mr

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Speaker, I have no where near my honourable friend's Fiat in my

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abilities, but I do think that it remains in Britain's best interests

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to stay with the European Union, but if the British people decide that we

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should leave, the British Government will continue to do its best for the

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British public. I think the Attorney General of all people want

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underestimate the scope of his scholarly cranium because clearly

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the member of the Kettering does not. A condition of our membership

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of the European Union is that we are also a signatory to the European

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Convention on Human Rights. Can the Attorney General confirmed that this

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parliament is the commitment of this government to remain acyclic Jerry

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to the European Convention on Human Rights, not joined Belarus as the

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only country who isn't. I am not sure that his first statement is

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entirely correct, but in relation to the intention of the Government it

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is very clear. We don't seek to leave the convention but we do seek

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to contract a better and more sensible arrangement on human rights

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law in this country. We don't think that the interpretation of the

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convention by the European Court of Human Rights is always sensible and

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we wish to see a good deal more common-sense brought into human

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rights law in the future. I regret that that is not an opinion shared

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by Her Majesty 's opposition. I appreciate his hands are tied

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somewhat in that no one in the campaign has not been clear about

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what we would be leaving too, but surely his officials will have made

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some assessment as to the map of the legislative time that would be taken

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up by this Parliament trying to pick 43 years of our involvement in

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European laws, rules and regulations. I quoted to the House

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the remarks of Professor Wyatt when he was giving evidence in the other

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place and there is no doubt there would be considerable time and

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effort required. Of course it is difficult to be specific because it

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depends on what alternative arrangements are sought

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post-departure from the European Union, but I think again the

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honourable gentleman is right to say that the onus is on those who wish

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to lead to explain what the word would be like if we did. Is not the

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case that is very simple to explain what it would mean, it would mean

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that this Parliament and our court would take back control of our human

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rights legislation. That is the simple matter. Does the Attorney

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General agree? The human rights laws within European law are extremely

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limited. The Charter of fundamental rights within the European Union Law

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can and does not create new rights and of course as my honourable

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friend knows the European Convention on Human Rights is a separate

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institution. But I think he is wrong to suggest this would be simple in

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any way. It would be extraordinarily congregated and it would take a very

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long time. I'll answer questions exam seven together. The CPS

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recently revived its social media guidelines which of course are

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publicly available and they are subject to a current consultation

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which will result in the publication of finalised guidelines on the use

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serious offences later in the year. Does he agree that the effect of

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online abuse on mental health particularly among young people can

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be very damaging and will he heard social media to actively engage with

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the CPS and other agencies to root out bad and poor behaviour and

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signpost clearly the support available in law to victims. I am

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grateful. Sometimes online abuse can actually worse than face-to-face

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abuse because it is all pervading and doesn't particularly in the case

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of young people leave them at the school gate or give them privately

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at home. The DPP has indeed met a number of social media providers and

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the Crown Prosecution Service will continue to work with them on

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measures to improve the reporting and prosecution of this type of

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abuse. Even I have been trolled on Twitter. I don't know whether it was

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moment or someone else. People doubting the problems of my hair,

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can you believe that? But a friend of mine has a young son is 16, he

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has also been trolled on Twitter and he didn't take it as likely as I do.

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The poor boy has harmed himself. It is a very serious matter. I am

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interested to hear the reply. What steps can we take to deter young

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people from bullying other young people on Twitter and Facebook and

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other social media? I am naturally reticent to trespass upon the

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Bailiwick of my honourable friend's air, so I will confine my remarks to

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the serious issues that he raises about the mental health impact upon

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young people. There is work being done in terms of training so that

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Crown Prosecution Service prosecutors can actually help enable

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victims and users to report abuse and in particular to make sure that

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the offending content can be removed by internet service providers. As a

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follow-on to the last question, what actions are being taken in

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conjunction with the Department for Education and schools in particular

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to try and curtail the amount of online abuse for young people? The

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honourable gentleman will be aware that there is a massive amount of

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work not only going on by the Department for Education but also

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from the third sector about cyber bullying and the effects on young

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people and I think the combined approach that is being taken in

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schools, the length and breadth this country, is that only alerting the

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dangers to young people but also empowering them to make complaints

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so that they do not have to suffer in silence. The UK works through the

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European Union to amplify its work to promote and protect human rights

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and democracy around the world increasing the UK's influence on a

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range of issues. When 28 member states speak out against the most

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areas violations of human rights that can help set the agenda at the

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UN and other international organisations. Those are viable ways

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in which the UK contributed to use. The EU Charter reflects wider

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international standards and obligations which the UK has a

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history of championing. By moving away from the EU Charter we risk

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undermining human rights and respect for international law. What advice

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has the Attorney General giving on weakening of legal human rights

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safeguards that could follow? If the honourable lady is referring to the

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European Union Charter of fundamental rights as I said a

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moment or so ago, that structure does not create new rights for

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British citizens and protocol 30 of the treaty makes that very clear. So

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I don't think there would be very significant consequence to departure

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in that way. But what I do think is that there is considerable advantage

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to the UK in communicating its views and aspirations on human rights

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protection and just in this country but abroad if we were no longer able

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to act through the medium of the European Union as we do through

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other international organisations. The Justice Secretary recently told

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the Justice Select Committee that as far as he was concerned the

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framework of human rights across the UK was a reserved matter. Given the

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Attorney General advises the Government on legal issues can he

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explain why the Government's view is that it is reserved when it is not

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included in the exhaustive list of reservations in schedule five of the

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Scotland Act? As he knows, it is the Government view and my beauty that

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in relation to any change to the Human Rights Act -- my view. It is

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not a devolved matter, it is a reserved matter. That is the issue

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on which my Right Honourable friend will shortly be bringing forward

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proposals. The Shadow Attorney General, the honourable member for

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Kingston upon Harrow East cannot be with us today because he is busy

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changing nappies. May we congratulate him. On the birth of

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his first baby, a beautiful daughter. Stella made. We wish him

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and his partner all the best. -- made. With the Attorney General but

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if the UK left the EU it would only be human rights in Scotland that

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would be affected? Surely they would be a question over the whole

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devolution process in Wales and Northern Ireland? And we shouldn't

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forget that the agreement that gave us the institutions in Northern

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Ireland took membership of the EU as a given and if the UK left the EU,

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this would lead to unwelcome uncertainties? Can I start by adding

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to her congratulations to the Shadow Attorney General for the new arrival

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in his household? We wish them all well and can I also congratulate her

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for taking on her new and I'm sure temporary but nonetheless very

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important response abilities in the dispatch box. She knows because she

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is heard said a pleasure for that I take the view of protection of human

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rights in this country can perfectly be undertaken by the British

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Government and British courts here in Britain. However there is no

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doubt that where we to leave the European Union there would be a

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range of complexities that would follow. Not all of which are the

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ones that we have discussed. There is no doubt in my mind that because

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of those additional complexities and because I think that on balance

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there is huge advantage to the European Union and Britain remaining

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in it, that is the right decision. All tax evasion prosecutions are

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conducted under domestic tax law legislation and no distinction is

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made in central records between offshore tax evasion cases and other

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tax prosecution cases and prosecutions but I can tell him the

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total number of convictions since 2010 deferred tax offences is 2647.

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The minister will now know that there is industrial scale money

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going of scoreboard through the revelations in the Panama Papers. --

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offshore. I'm wondering what role his apartment would be taking in

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advising the Prime Minister's task force on that task evasion and

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whether he expects any illegality to come out of that review and if so

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what resources he has got to ensure prosecutions are taking place goes

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like as he may know the Serious Fraud Office is contributing to that

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task force. That is an agency that I superintend. There is ?10 million

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worth of new money available to support the work of that task force

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and they were expecting to say, the question of who gets prosecuted if

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anyone as a result of that work is not for politicians to determine, it

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is for independent prosecutors but I'm confident that the GPS, the

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Serious Fraud Office have the resources they need in order to

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pursue this and that he will also know, the Government is providing

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additional tools by which that can be done including the creation of

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new offences both for individuals and for corporate entities which

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failed to take the necessary action to prevent the facilitation of tax

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evasion. Tax evasion is not a victimless crime and tax avoidance

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has consequences too. Both take money out of hard-pressed public

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services and people who work in them. Money that could be used to

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fund more police, hospitals, schools and other local services all of

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which have had severe cuts under this government. The fact remains

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that with a growing tax gap and a very limited number of prosecutions,

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-- prosecutions. How can the public be confident that the Government is

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doing everything it can to crack down on overseas tax evaders given

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to performance to date? I don't accept that the performance to date

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has been ineffective. There have been successful prosecutions of

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those who evade tax and as she will know it isn't simply criminal

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prosecution that exists in order to take action against those who avoid

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or evade tax, there are also civil penalties are available to HMRC and

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the bringing a substantial amount of money as a result of the actions

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that agency kicks. There is always more to do. That is why I have

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highlighted to particular measures in the field of enforcement and

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criminal prosecution which this government is taking. I look forward

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to the Labour Party support for them. Questions to the Minister for

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Women and Equalities. Question number

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