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Good morning and welcome to BBC Parliament's live coverage of the | :00:12. | :00:19. | |
House of Commons. Later, an urgent question by Steve double regarding | :00:20. | :00:22. | |
the rights of parents to take their children on holiday during term | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
time. That will be followed by a statement from Jeremy Hunt on the | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
junior doctors contract. The main business is the continuation of the | :00:33. | :00:37. | |
debate on the Queen's speech. It will concentrate on transport and | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
infrastructure. Among the measures announced, a modern transport Bill | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
covering new technology including driverless cars and the UK's | :00:46. | :00:51. | |
possible first spaceport. And a bill to change the planning process and | :00:52. | :01:03. | |
tackle the housing deficit. Before that, the leader of the house Chris | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
Grayling will outline forthcoming business in the chamber and take | :01:08. | :01:08. | |
questions from MPs. Order, order. Business question, Mr | :01:09. | :01:39. | |
Chris Bryant. Will the leader of the house givers the business for next | :01:40. | :01:46. | |
week. You will notice a notice of commonality in business next week. | :01:47. | :01:50. | |
We will debate the Queen's speech. We will continue on Europe's human | :01:51. | :01:58. | |
rights, keeping people safe home and abroad. Following, a debate on the | :01:59. | :02:04. | |
Queen's speech on education, skills and training and finally an economy | :02:05. | :02:10. | |
and work. Next Friday, the house is not sitting. The provisional | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
business for the week commencing six to June will start on Monday with | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
the remaining stages of a bill, one of the two main carry-over bills, to | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
be confirmed next week. I should also inform the house that the | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
statement on Syria that we had to move at the last moment will take | :02:29. | :02:35. | |
place alongside the foreign affairs debate next Tuesday. The business | :02:36. | :02:44. | |
for Westminster hall for 6th of June will include a debate on the | :02:45. | :02:52. | |
restriction of the use of fireworks. If only the rules allowed me to take | :02:53. | :02:58. | |
some interventions. I'm sure the thoughts of the whole house will be | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
with the families and friends of those on the Egyptair flight 804 | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
which has disappeared over the Mediterranean. People will want to | :03:08. | :03:12. | |
know what has happened. I hope that the leader will make sure the house | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
is updated on all events because as I understand it, not least, because | :03:17. | :03:23. | |
one Briton is on board. I think that was a sort of an apology for not | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
given as the statement on Syria which was promised. Will it be | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
separate from the debate? He has nodded, so we can move on. Can we | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
have statement from the Foreign Secretary explaining he wanted | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
General Sir Richard Sheriff court-martialed? As the general | :03:45. | :03:52. | |
reports to Nato and not to him surely he should have been | :03:53. | :03:55. | |
congratulated for stating that slashing troop numbers was a hell of | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
a gamble and not threatened. I love a bit of dressing up, just as much | :04:01. | :04:08. | |
as any other defrocked vicar. Almost as much as you, Mr Speaker. I did | :04:09. | :04:19. | |
think yesterday it was a case of all fur coat and knickerbockers. The | :04:20. | :04:30. | |
Queen announced that the government intended to tackle poverty to a room | :04:31. | :04:36. | |
of Baroness 's and Countess is all dressed in ermine and jewels. The | :04:37. | :04:42. | |
government announced that they would put the national citizen service | :04:43. | :04:47. | |
which works six weeks a year on a statutory footing, while the nation | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
youth service which works all year round has been slashed losing 2000 | :04:52. | :05:03. | |
workers, Kahlo 's is 350 youth centres -- closing 350 youth | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
centres. Why not put the youth service on a statutory footing as | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
well? That is what was truly awful about yesterday's Queen 's speech. | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
It was pretending to be a one nation speech, it was dressed up as such. A | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
Candy Frost reach if ever there was one. All sugar, whipped up with a | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
hint of pink to make sure that we believe that passionate | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
conservativism is still alive. The truth is, the Chancellor puts a | :05:32. | :05:37. | |
stake through the heart of compassionate conservatives every | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
time he stands at the dispatch box. Yes, let's reform the prison service | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
but don't pretend that the horrendous state of our prisons with | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
the rate of suicides, murders and nonnatural deaths at a high, with | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
daily violence and drugs freely available as nothing to do with this | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
government's assault on the prison service budget and the loss of 7000 | :06:00. | :06:06. | |
prison officers since 2010, largely on his watch. Let's improve adoption | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
but let's not pretend that social services budgets in the poorest | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
local authorities in the land are not so stretched that children are | :06:15. | :06:21. | |
being put at risk every day. I'm sorry, Mr Speaker, you can say you | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
want to tackle social problems in society until you are blue in the | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
face but when you have paired public services to the bone, when you have | :06:30. | :06:34. | |
inflicted the toughest cuts on the poorest communities and when you | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
have systematically undermined the concept of public service, all your | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
blandishments are nothing but a sugar-coating for a cyanide pill. I | :06:44. | :06:50. | |
don't know what time you got up yesterday morning so I don't know if | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
you caught the leader of the house on the today programme. He was | :06:55. | :07:00. | |
trying to defend the former Mayor of London. He described him as a | :07:01. | :07:09. | |
historian of making a historian's comment, as if it let them him get | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
away with anything he wanted. The former mayor does have a habit of | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
making up historical fact. My favourite one was his assertion that | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
King Edward the second end joined a range of dissolution with his | :07:26. | :07:31. | |
catamite Piers Galveston. I don't doubt that he liked a bit of Royal | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
rumpy pompey but since he was beheaded 12 years before the palace | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
was built it is pretty unlikely that he did so there. My only explanation | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
for this so-called fact of the former Mayor of London was that he | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
was a member of the Piers Galveston Society at Oxford with the Prime | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
Minister where they got used to porkies. The short answer is, if the | :07:54. | :08:01. | |
leader of the house was doing his business on the Today programme | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
between six and 7am, I was in the swimming pool at the time. The | :08:07. | :08:14. | |
Honourable gentleman is in danger of beheading himself because he has had | :08:15. | :08:20. | |
five minutes. I think he is in his last sentence. Certainly in his last | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
paragraph. I believe that the Prime Minister is going to the United | :08:26. | :08:34. | |
States next week. I'm sure Donald Trump has a ticker tape welcome for | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
him. When an international statesman like the leader of the house goes on | :08:40. | :08:47. | |
international business. They always get hail to the Chief but I believe | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
they have you Cadee sacks ready for him. A very serious point, all our | :08:53. | :09:00. | |
good wishes go to the families who must be beside themselves with worry | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
about what happened to the passengers on the Egyptair plane. A | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
deeply worrying situation. If it turns out to be more than an | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
accident, we will want to discuss that matter in the house. It is | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
important to wait to see what the outcome of the investigations and | :09:20. | :09:22. | |
our hearts go out to everyone involved. On the statement, it will | :09:23. | :09:30. | |
be a separate statement we put it alongside the foreign affairs debate | :09:31. | :09:33. | |
because those most likely to be concerned are likely to be there for | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
the debate as well. Mr Speaker, he's such an old misery. Yesterday was | :09:39. | :09:46. | |
Britain at its finest. Strong institutions, great tradition, | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
things that make this great city one of the finest is not the finest in | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
the world, a monocle should be proud of and a programme for government | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
that is fulfilling the commitments me made to the elected last year. In | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
an election that they lost and we won. We set out 21 new bills. It | :10:04. | :10:09. | |
completes most of the manifesto we won the election on. It helps as | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
achieve financial targets, to balance the books and complete the | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
sorting out of the mess we inherited from the members opposite. Inc | :10:18. | :10:23. | |
includes measures on prisons, is boosts the Digital economies and | :10:24. | :10:29. | |
helps tackle terrorism. First of all, in the first 12 months, we have | :10:30. | :10:36. | |
introduced a national living wage. We have seen unemployment at its | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
lowest level since the 1970s. We have seen a fall of more than | :10:41. | :10:47. | |
750,000 in the number of workless households. A change that means a | :10:48. | :10:53. | |
transformational difference to many of our most deprived communities. | :10:54. | :10:56. | |
The Conservative government sorting out the mess we inherited. He spoke | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
about interventions and I have sympathy with him. He did better | :11:01. | :11:06. | |
than his leader did yesterday. I thought, there is a man who spent 41 | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
minutes looking at the shoes of The People on this site rather than | :11:12. | :11:17. | |
looking at his party leader making such an awful speech yesterday. Mr | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
Speaker, I'm not sure he actually raised any other questions. I was | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
grappling with trying to understand what he was going on about in the | :11:27. | :11:30. | |
middle. We are at the start of a where we will deliver measures that | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
will make a transformational difference to this country and a | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
difference to our deprived communities making this country more | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
secure economically and more secure against the national threats we | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
face. I think it is worth, in a week when the YMCA named their latest | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
building, Chris Bryant house after the famous Chris Bryant, not this | :11:52. | :12:02. | |
one. I think we should pause for a moment to praise... LAUGHTER | :12:03. | :12:11. | |
We should pause for a moment to praise the shadow leader. Here's a | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
great champion of equalities in this place and he and I shared the | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
ambition seeing more women elected to office. I'm delighted to see that | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
his constituency is doing his bit by electing a woman to represent in | :12:25. | :12:31. | |
Cardiff. In 2020, we might see a further step in that direction as | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
well. On the subject of the shadow leader, can I congratulate him for | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
stepping in to save the local calendar in Rhondda after the defeat | :12:40. | :12:49. | |
of Leighton Andrews, perhaps he does have his own calendar girl in Leanne | :12:50. | :12:50. | |
Wood. The controversial age tests -- HS2 | :12:51. | :13:03. | |
budget has been in the media over potential cuts to the scope of the | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
project and the costs. The announcement for finalised phase two | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
will not be until at least September, one your plate, is out of | :13:12. | :13:14. | |
Italy blight on my constituents, can have an update on the progress of | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
HS2 so that this house can get to know how big the white elephant has | :13:19. | :13:24. | |
grown? I understand my honourable friend concern. His consistency | :13:25. | :13:30. | |
faces challenges and benefits from HS2, which all parts of the economy | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
in a way through infrastructure that will make a difference to jobs and | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
the prospects of business. I understand the concerns. We have a | :13:40. | :13:42. | |
debate today on transport but I will also make sure the secretary of | :13:43. | :13:45. | |
state is aware of the has raised today. Thank you. Can I also think | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
he would of the housework and is in the business for next week and pass | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
on our best wishes for those caught up in the dictionary line issue and | :13:56. | :13:57. | |
hope there is some sort of positive resolution. What a few weeks. We | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
will have to spend most of our Times discussing this anaemic stuff in the | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
Queen's speech when all they want to do is knock lumps out of each other | :14:10. | :14:12. | |
for the EU reference. The debate in the Tory party is hardly reaching | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
Churchillian standards of discourse, it is apparently all but insults, | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
personal attacks and tabloid smears according to the member for Wycombe | :14:24. | :14:28. | |
this morning on the radio. I know my friends are already considering our | :14:29. | :14:30. | |
amendments for the driverless cars built, most involving blocking this | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
Tory Government into that vehicle and heading towards the nearest | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
cliff edge. The Scotland Bill yesterday in the Queen's speech got | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
22 words. That is doing quite well for what we usually get. It might be | :14:46. | :14:52. | |
a one nation Queen's speech, but one of these nations are certainly is | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
not Scotland. We still have not secured a statement from this | :14:58. | :15:00. | |
governance concerning all of the quite explosive evidence about the | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
Conservative Party submission to the mission on the conflict between | :15:04. | :15:06. | |
national and local spending when it comes to the last election campaign. | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
There are 14 police forces investigating this alleged electoral | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
Ford Dott fraud but would not read anything from the Government. In the | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
Telegraph they said why the Tories won, the inside story of the 2015 | :15:21. | :15:25. | |
election, which said buses were critical to moving party troops from | :15:26. | :15:28. | |
where they live to where the swing voters could be found. The central | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
party paid for all the buses and trains as well as hotels and | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
hostels. We know after year and urgent statement from this, about | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
what they do when it comes to this and lastly, can we perhaps have a | :15:40. | :15:45. | |
debate on World War II? Then it would allow all the senior vendor 's | :15:46. | :15:51. | |
-- members to indulge their passion in talking about Hitler because | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
you're about all of the dodgiest trees and the spurious examples and | :15:56. | :15:59. | |
perhaps it would take my eyes off the raging civil wars. -- dodgy | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
histories. Come first thing the honourable gentleman for his | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
comments about the Egyptian plane. At all of us wait with hope and | :16:10. | :16:17. | |
trepidation about what has happened. I am really not sure this is the | :16:18. | :16:20. | |
week for the Scottish National Party to be talking about stories in the | :16:21. | :16:27. | |
tabloids. I have read the news, there has to be something in the | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
water in Scotland. As you remember me telling the house a few months | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
ago, the honourable member for the Western Isles wrote about recess | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
dates because he wanted to quickly ran in with the news. At that time I | :16:40. | :16:46. | |
thought he was talking about sheep. Mr Speaker, the Queen's speech was a | :16:47. | :16:56. | |
powerful package for this country. It is a powerful package that will | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
deliver change to Scotland and the entirety of the UK, including | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
important measure of our economy and security. The SNP cannot have it | :17:07. | :17:13. | |
both ways. It cannot come on the one hand, demand and secure for greater | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
powers for the party in Edinburgh and a far greater powers for the | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
nation of Scotland and complain it is not actually getting a huge range | :17:23. | :17:26. | |
of measures in the Queen's speech. We are looking to how the SNP are | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
actually going to use the powers. Yesterday we heard a leader of | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
Westminster was up again saying we want more powers from Scotland, | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
perhaps they might like to use the powers they got the first place? I | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
would on the subject of Scottish assembly and Scottish Parliament and | :17:43. | :17:45. | |
the Scottish administration, I would like to congratulate the First | :17:46. | :17:47. | |
Minister of Scotland on a real election and I would like to | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
congratulate Ruth Davidson on depriving the Scottish National | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
Party of their majority in the Scottish Parliament and we will be | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
an effective opposition to the SNP and an effective unionist opposition | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
to the SNP and we want told them to account to use the they've been | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
given in the interests of Scotland and if they don't do so we will | :18:08. | :18:15. | |
defeat them. The last point is, he raises about election matters, they | :18:16. | :18:17. | |
are for the appropriate authorities, not for the Government. Can we have | :18:18. | :18:26. | |
a debate on the BBC and its relationship with the European | :18:27. | :18:28. | |
Union, particularly in relation to its coverage of the European Union? | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
It was revealed in which the magazine this week that the BBC has | :18:34. | :18:41. | |
received ?2.1 million from the EU between April 2013 and September | :18:42. | :18:48. | |
2015, this is on top of at least ?141 million in soft loans from the | :18:49. | :18:54. | |
European investment bank and on the European investment bank's website | :18:55. | :18:56. | |
it says the European investment bank is the European Union's bank and we | :18:57. | :19:02. | |
work closely with other EU institutions to implement EU policy. | :19:03. | :19:05. | |
That is the only basis on which you get one of these loans. Surely these | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
things should be declared by the BBC whenever they do anything to cover | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
the EU referendum. Can we have a debate on this and perhaps a little | :19:15. | :19:17. | |
of the house can tell us if he's agreed to BBC staff to -- should | :19:18. | :19:23. | |
have to declare this? My honourable friend made his point with his | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
customary effectiveness. I've no doubt the BBC will be listening | :19:28. | :19:29. | |
carefully to this comment and if nothing else will ensure they go | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
even further out of their way to try and make sure they are impartial in | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
this referendum campaign. Can the leader explained perhaps we can have | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
a statement the difference between the way in which the 1975 referendum | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
was held in which ministers disagrees, there was no bitterness, | :19:49. | :19:55. | |
it was argued on very important grounds and, as I say, without | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
personal attacks. And the present way in which Government members, | :20:00. | :20:06. | |
cabinet members and other members of the Government and its supporters | :20:07. | :20:08. | |
have such bitterness and strife and rancour between them over the | :20:09. | :20:16. | |
question of whether we Remain Leave. It is uncivilised and totally unlike | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
in 1975. I found myself this morning sitting and writing a short piece | :20:23. | :20:25. | |
about social reform alongside my deputy from a different side of the | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
arguments, and I can assure you we are still best friends, unlike both | :20:30. | :20:32. | |
people in the Labour Party who appear to be buried to know if their | :20:33. | :20:38. | |
leader in the back. -- appear to be prepared to knife. Can we have a | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
debate on the extremely important antimicrobial resistance report that | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
came out this morning. This report was initiated by the Prime Minister | :20:47. | :20:50. | |
and Chancellor and is vital. I know my honourable friend from your cows | :20:51. | :20:56. | |
as a spoken eloquently on this but it is vital and we need to discuss | :20:57. | :20:59. | |
the terrifying prospect of antimicrobial resistance increasing | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
over the years as soon as possible. Can I just say my honourable friend | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
makes a very important point indeed. We this house on political matters, | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
this is something that affects all of us and it's a matter of great | :21:15. | :21:17. | |
concern to country and the world as a whole. It is a serious issue and | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
we will debate on Monday on public services and much the option to | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
discuss this in this house with the section of state. If not, something | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
that we should certainly look to return to. In the last month there | :21:32. | :21:39. | |
have been 11 serious stabbings involving young people in my | :21:40. | :21:44. | |
borough. There have been 114 incidents of serious youth violence | :21:45. | :21:52. | |
in Lambeth and 2300, over that, across London. This is a crisis | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
situation. It is nationwide, it has been occurring for several months | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
and yet it did not merit a single mention by the Prime Minister in his | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
remarks in this house yesterday in respect of the forthcoming agenda of | :22:06. | :22:10. | |
this Government. With the leader of the house arrange for a statement to | :22:11. | :22:13. | |
be given now on whether the Government will agree to what will I | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
and many members of his house on both sides have been calling for, | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
proper independent cross-party commission into this issue, because | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
right now to many of my constituents it does not look like this | :22:25. | :22:27. | |
Government cares about what is happening on our streets. Firstly, I | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
agree with the honourable gentleman about this seriousness. I disagree | :22:33. | :22:40. | |
with not taking it seriously we have sought to both tighten the law, and | :22:41. | :22:44. | |
I did some of that myself when I was just a section we are seeking during | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
gays young people. Yesterday's Queen's speech included are plans to | :22:48. | :22:54. | |
extend and solidify the National citizens survey. -- to engage young | :22:55. | :23:00. | |
Biba. The no young people. I want to pay to be to the voluntary sector, | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
some part -- fantastic project in London sing to engage young people. | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
This is an issue we will come back to and I will make sure the onset is | :23:09. | :23:11. | |
aware of the requests made this morning and I can only assure that | :23:12. | :23:18. | |
we take it seriously indeed. I am the chairman of the all-party | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
Parliamentary group and earlier this month the peninsular real task force | :23:25. | :23:32. | |
ended publishing its initial proposals and is available for | :23:33. | :23:35. | |
public consultation into the 27th of May. Can we have a debate after that | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
has happened so that Southwest members of Parliament can make sure | :23:41. | :23:43. | |
that the apartment of transport understands excelling what we want | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
in the south-west. I am well aware of the challenge that we face with | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
rail in the South West, had the difficult experience a couple years | :23:54. | :23:57. | |
ago of the line being washed away and extended period when it was | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
closed. I know this is something transport planning to take seriously | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
and I pay tribute to the work he is doing is making sure this is kept | :24:05. | :24:07. | |
firmly on the desk of ministers. I would remind him that there is offer | :24:08. | :24:12. | |
the statement this morning an opportunity for him to raise that | :24:13. | :24:15. | |
issue in the debate on transport and I were advising to do that. Last | :24:16. | :24:21. | |
Thursday after Parliament had been prone to the Government published | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
the pure review reports on the deaths of 49 Social Security | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
claimants who died between 2012 and 2014. This was after ministers had | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
denied they had any records on people whose deaths had been linked | :24:36. | :24:40. | |
to the Social Security system. Given the gravity of this matter and that | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
this is the second time that data has been released on the deaths of | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
Social Security claimants well Parliament was in recess when will | :24:50. | :24:55. | |
the leader of the house arrange for a statement to this house on what | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
action has been taken to address the recommendations in these reports? Of | :24:59. | :25:04. | |
course, she will have the option to to raise this issue next Thursday | :25:05. | :25:08. | |
when there is a debate on work and welfare matters in this house, then | :25:09. | :25:10. | |
sure she will take option to do that. -- take the opportunity. In | :25:11. | :25:20. | |
yesterday's speech I was pleased to see a higher education Bill | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
announced in enabling more universities to be built, increased | :25:24. | :25:26. | |
participation from deprived families and also increase diversity | :25:27. | :25:32. | |
reporting as well. Can my honourable friend update house as to when the | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
technical consultation on the Dott this will be announced, particularly | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
for the university sector and timescales for the debate other than | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
Wednesday next week? I do not know the dates of the technical | :25:45. | :25:48. | |
consultation, but what I can tell my honourable friend is that the higher | :25:49. | :25:52. | |
education Bill will be brought before this house shortly and it | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
will be one of the early bills to come for debate in this session and | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
I've no doubt one of my -- Mike honourable friend will want to make | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
debate in this discussion. Can we have a statement from the old sexy | :26:06. | :26:08. | |
next week on the plight of the brain family from Dingwall. -- Home | :26:09. | :26:17. | |
Secretary. They have been threatened with deportation. This young family | :26:18. | :26:19. | |
came to Scotland five years ago under the fresh talent initiative, | :26:20. | :26:25. | |
they have contributed massively of the money and efforts to the | :26:26. | :26:28. | |
community, self-supporting, contributing to community efforts | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
including the young son Loch Long, seven years old, who has known no | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
other war between what is first language is Scots Gaelic. Does the | :26:37. | :26:44. | |
net two member of the house feel no shame that his family -- party's | :26:45. | :26:52. | |
committee a huge disservice against this young family and the B+ | :26:53. | :26:55. | |
coloured? On the individual case I do not know the circumstances and | :26:56. | :27:00. | |
and I will draw his commerce to the Home Secretary's comments this | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
morning. I would say it's important to remember that if people do, for a | :27:05. | :27:08. | |
temporary period it does not automatically mean that the end of | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
that period they will have the right to stay. That is an important thing | :27:13. | :27:15. | |
to remember when we deal with these cases. | :27:16. | :27:24. | |
I wish to raise the case of a 38-year-old student from Lahoz who | :27:25. | :27:32. | |
wants to leave her family to complete her Ph.D. At the London | :27:33. | :27:39. | |
School of theology. Her Visa has been turned down despite the backing | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
of her bishop in this country. Will the leader make time for a statement | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
for these processes for genuine academic candidates so these can be | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
resolved. It seems to be a pattern of Middle Eastern Christians put | :27:55. | :28:00. | |
into bad circumstances and not evaluated very well. I cannot | :28:01. | :28:04. | |
comment on the individual case because I don't know the | :28:05. | :28:08. | |
circumstances. We don't have home of his questions for a little while so | :28:09. | :28:12. | |
the best thing for me to do is to draw the Home Secretary's attention | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
to the case and asked the Home Office to deal with him directly on | :28:17. | :28:23. | |
it. The leader of the house has said that the government's intention is | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
to make the UK more secure economically and in light of that | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
could we have a debate in this house on farm gate prices in relation to | :28:33. | :28:37. | |
the regional differentials between farm gate prices in Northern Ireland | :28:38. | :28:43. | |
and in Britain. Farmers in Northern Ireland are being placed at a severe | :28:44. | :28:50. | |
financial disadvantage. Mr Speaker, I don't know enough about the detail | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
of the case she has raised. Perhaps she would write to me and I will | :28:56. | :28:59. | |
make sure she gets a proper response. I don't have detailed | :29:00. | :29:02. | |
knowledge of the farm gate situation in Northern Ireland but I will be | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
happy to give a proper response to that question. On the front line of | :29:07. | :29:13. | |
security in this nation armed police officers are put in dangerous | :29:14. | :29:16. | |
circumstances and have to make a decision in a split second. If they | :29:17. | :29:21. | |
are forced to make that decision, Babin face months of scrutiny on | :29:22. | :29:25. | |
whether that decision was right or wrong. Can we have a debate on the | :29:26. | :29:30. | |
process of analysing those decisions under scrutiny officers are put | :29:31. | :29:36. | |
under. My honourable friend makes an important point. We are currently | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
recruiting 1000 new armed officers as an essential part of the strategy | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
we have two, terrorism in this country. It is really important that | :29:47. | :29:54. | |
we make sure that if an incident does take place involving an armed | :29:55. | :30:03. | |
officer, we must check the circumstances, we must not get into | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
a situation where people do not want to be armed officers because they | :30:08. | :30:10. | |
are worried about the consequences for themselves. The NHS action plan | :30:11. | :30:21. | |
on hearing loss, does the leader of the house have an idea when that | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
might be published. A number of hours will be bidding for an | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
adjournment debate to debate this. It is good news for the 3 million | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
hard of hearing or deaf people in the UK. It would be really good to | :30:37. | :30:41. | |
see the government leading from the front on this. I know the government | :30:42. | :30:45. | |
is working on this. I don't have a date yet but I'm sure he will want | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
to fully update the house. I suspect it will be the Department of Health | :30:51. | :30:58. | |
who will inform Parliament as widely as possible. It may well end up | :30:59. | :31:06. | |
being debated. I should just, actually, if I might, to the future | :31:07. | :31:12. | |
chairman of the backbench business committee of the commiseration for | :31:13. | :31:14. | |
the events of the last couple of weeks. We knows? You may bounce back | :31:15. | :31:24. | |
quickly. The humanitarian crisis in north-east Syria is becoming worse | :31:25. | :31:30. | |
with age unable to reach the region. A kilo of sugar is ?1000. Isis, | :31:31. | :31:42. | |
while on the back foot and Daesh while on the back foot still | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
controls the only road with access to the region. Would the leader of | :31:47. | :31:54. | |
the house allow a debate or a statement on this vital matter. | :31:55. | :32:01. | |
Could I say that I was cheering for Newcastle on Sunday and how | :32:02. | :32:05. | |
magnificent it was to see them beat Tottenham 5-1 in sure that Arsenal | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
finished above Tottenham on the last day of the season. Mr Speaker, | :32:11. | :32:22. | |
you've made yourself in normal enormously popular with one part of | :32:23. | :32:25. | |
north London and enormously unpopular with another. I suspect | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
you knew that. We will have a statement on north-east Syria next | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
Tuesday. If there are areas not satisfactorily covered in the eyes | :32:35. | :32:38. | |
of the honourable gentleman in that debate, we have the foreign affairs | :32:39. | :32:43. | |
debate that follows. There will be an opportunity to raise what are | :32:44. | :32:47. | |
immensely serious issues. They are difficult to address from here but I | :32:48. | :32:51. | |
remind him that we are the second largest international donor to the | :32:52. | :32:57. | |
different groups providing humanitarian support to those | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
affected by the Syrian war. As football seems to be the theme, I'm | :33:01. | :33:07. | |
sure the leader of the house would congratulate Partick Thistle on | :33:08. | :33:13. | |
their 140th anniversary. When will the government published its | :33:14. | :33:19. | |
response to the select committee's report on private members bills. | :33:20. | :33:22. | |
When will we have a debate on the recommendations of that report? I am | :33:23. | :33:28. | |
very happy to congratulate Partick Thistle on their anniversary. I'm | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
sure he will be looking forward to a successful season next season, | :33:33. | :33:35. | |
probably in the stands many Saturdays. In response to the | :33:36. | :33:43. | |
procedure committee report on private members bills, we will be | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
responding in the appropriate time frame which I think is by the 12th | :33:49. | :33:57. | |
of June. According to Samaritans, 4722 people took their life in | :33:58. | :34:03. | |
suicides in England in 2015. Whilst this trend is in a 30 year decline, | :34:04. | :34:08. | |
in recent years it has worryingly been rising again to the highest | :34:09. | :34:15. | |
levels since 2004. Can we have a debate on the implementation of the | :34:16. | :34:19. | |
government's suicide prevention strategy for England and how the | :34:20. | :34:25. | |
government might assist further the prevention of people taking their | :34:26. | :34:31. | |
lives in suicide? This is, of course, a very serious issue, | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
particularly among young men where we are seeing a real upwards trend | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
in recent times. It is a focus for the government and one of the | :34:41. | :34:42. | |
reasons we are putting more resources into providing a per medal | :34:43. | :34:49. | |
haul -- proper mental health support. The Health Secretary will | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
be here on Monday for the public services debate and I encourage him | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
to bring up the subject in that debate so it remains in the sight of | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
the Department of Health. Was the honourable gentleman here at the | :35:04. | :35:09. | |
start of business? I was answering a call of nature, Mr Speaker. They | :35:10. | :35:20. | |
give me. -- forgive me. I was at Saint James 's Park for the calamity | :35:21. | :35:26. | |
on Sunday. Forgive him, he's a Tottenham supporter. Can we find | :35:27. | :35:32. | |
time for debate on garden waste collection. In the borough of | :35:33. | :35:38. | |
Harrow, the council has decided to charge the resident ?40 for six | :35:39. | :35:44. | |
months and the collections aren't even being made. I receive | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
complaints on a daily basis about this. It is time we raised the issue | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
in the house so we can comment on the calamity of some of the rubbish | :35:54. | :35:58. | |
collections in this country. I understand how frustrating it is for | :35:59. | :36:02. | |
him and constituents but in his guise as the deputy chairman of the | :36:03. | :36:06. | |
backbench business committee he is better placed than anyone to bring | :36:07. | :36:09. | |
forward such a debate and I'm sure he will do. Kirsty Osborne. People | :36:10. | :36:18. | |
are concerned about the new body armour that they are being issued. | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
They can't get up if they fall down. They can't get it in on in the dark. | :36:25. | :36:31. | |
Why issue kit to soldiers in the first place that puts soldiers in | :36:32. | :36:37. | |
jeopardy? Can we have a system question on how systems have been | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
failed. Can we have a procurement changed to stop this happening | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
again? The honourable lady raises a serious issue. Apart from the Syria | :36:47. | :36:54. | |
statement, there will be a defence debate on Saturday afternoon. It is | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
something she may wish to bring to their attention at that point. I | :37:00. | :37:06. | |
find myself in the curious position of echoing the honourable member for | :37:07. | :37:09. | |
Shipley. It is entirely coincidental. Can we have a debate | :37:10. | :37:18. | |
on the BBC White Paper. The statement took place before | :37:19. | :37:22. | |
publication last week and there is considerable disquiet about the | :37:23. | :37:25. | |
government's ideological moments and the ability to pack the unitary | :37:26. | :37:32. | |
board with friends who could have a direct influence on the editorial | :37:33. | :37:37. | |
policy of the BBC. The proposed unitary board of the BBC is not | :37:38. | :37:43. | |
responsible for editorial policy. The director-general remains | :37:44. | :37:46. | |
responsible for editorial policy. The impact and influence of the | :37:47. | :37:52. | |
board is after broadcast and not before broadcast which is a weight | :37:53. | :37:55. | |
has been in the past and should continue. Legislation will be | :37:56. | :38:00. | |
debated in this house and there will be plenty of opportunities to | :38:01. | :38:03. | |
question the Secretary of State before we get anywhere near | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
chartering Newell. My local authority Cheshire West, along with | :38:10. | :38:12. | |
Warrington and Cheshire East councils is currently locked in | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
talks about a devolution deal for the area. I welcome it in principle | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
but there seems to be a strange insistence on elected mayors. The | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
area we are talking about is so broad and large, bordering North | :38:27. | :38:29. | |
Wales on one side and greater Manchester on the other and I | :38:30. | :38:33. | |
question the suitability of a mayor for an area so large. Can we have a | :38:34. | :38:40. | |
debate on the need for elected mayors in areas quite so large? We | :38:41. | :38:50. | |
are offering additional powers for devolved communities but we need | :38:51. | :38:58. | |
them to come forward with proposals for structures for local government. | :38:59. | :39:02. | |
The one thing they have in common is that we have to have confidence they | :39:03. | :39:05. | |
can deliver what is necessary and I'm sure that's no different in | :39:06. | :39:13. | |
Cheshire. I have a constituent Elaine who has a hereditary muscle | :39:14. | :39:20. | |
wasting paraplegic condition. Despite being in her early 20s, she | :39:21. | :39:31. | |
didn't qualify for PRP. Half of all awards like this are for three years | :39:32. | :39:34. | |
or less. People with muscle degenerative diseases undergo | :39:35. | :39:40. | |
continuing assessment which is cruel and a waste of money. Can we have an | :39:41. | :39:52. | |
impact on PRP and its distribution? Issues like this are immensely | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
serious and problematic for those affected. I would remind him that in | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
Scotland of these are devolved matters and perhaps this is the | :40:01. | :40:09. | |
wrong forum for debate. Urgent question, Steve double. To ask the | :40:10. | :40:18. | |
secretary of education where the should be a debate on the right of | :40:19. | :40:21. | |
parents to take their children on holiday during term time. The High | :40:22. | :40:31. | |
Court judgment represents a significant threat to one of the | :40:32. | :40:35. | |
government's significant achievements in education, improving | :40:36. | :40:38. | |
school attendance. For this reason, the government will do everything in | :40:39. | :40:42. | |
its power to allow headteachers to keep children in school. There is | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
abundant academic evidence that says that one of the single strongest | :40:48. | :40:50. | |
determinants of academic success is attendant in school. Even a week off | :40:51. | :40:55. | |
in school at secondary school can have a significant impact on GCSE | :40:56. | :41:02. | |
grades. This can have a great damage to life chances. That is why we have | :41:03. | :41:08. | |
pursued a zero tolerance policy on unauthorised absence. We have | :41:09. | :41:12. | |
increased fines, issued summons on parents with continued absences. | :41:13. | :41:18. | |
Crucially, we have clamped down on the practice of taking term time | :41:19. | :41:23. | |
holidays. These measures have been a striking success. The number of | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
persistent absentees in this country's schools has dropped by | :41:28. | :41:34. | |
over 40% from 433,020 ten to 246,020 15. Some 4 million fewer days were | :41:35. | :41:40. | |
lost due to unauthorised absences today compared to 2012-2013. Overall | :41:41. | :41:46. | |
absence rates have followed a significant downward trend from 6.5% | :41:47. | :41:53. | |
in the academic year ending 2000 and in the academic year ending 2015. | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
These mean that pupils are spending many more hours in school being | :42:00. | :42:03. | |
taught the knowledge and skills they need to succeed in life. For this | :42:04. | :42:10. | |
reason we amended the 2006 attendance regulations in 2013. | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
Previously, special circumstances could permit a holiday in term time | :42:16. | :42:22. | |
for up to ten days per year. Of course, the need to take time off | :42:23. | :42:25. | |
school in exceptional circumstances is important but there are no | :42:26. | :42:31. | |
circumstances in which a 10-day holiday to Disney World should trump | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
the importance of school. The rules should apply to everyone. Parents | :42:36. | :42:41. | |
are being come to take their children out of school and go to | :42:42. | :42:44. | |
Florida it sends a message to everyone that school attendance is | :42:45. | :42:47. | |
not important. This is a measure that has been welcomed by teachers | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
and schools, unauthorised absences don't just affect the child that is | :42:52. | :42:56. | |
absent, they damage everyone's on education as teachers find | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
themselves having to play catch-up. For the absent children themselves | :43:01. | :43:03. | |
because learning is cumulative, you cannot understand the division of | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
fractions if you have not understood their multiplication. You can't | :43:09. | :43:15. | |
understand why World War I ended if you don't know why it started and | :43:16. | :43:17. | |
you can't enjoy the second half of the novel if you haven't read the | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
first. If a vital block of proves -- prerequisite knowledge is lost in | :43:22. | :43:24. | |
April it won't be understood in May. That is the recently given the | :43:25. | :43:37. | |
schools the power to set their own term dates in a way that works for | :43:38. | :43:40. | |
their parents and local communities. Already schools such as Hatton | :43:41. | :43:46. | |
College in London are doing just this. In areas of the country such | :43:47. | :43:50. | |
as the south-west were large number of the local population are employed | :43:51. | :43:53. | |
in the tourist industry is nothing to stop schools from clubbing | :43:54. | :43:58. | |
together and collectively change or extending the dates of their summer | :43:59. | :44:04. | |
holidays or doing so as part of the multi-cabinet trust, and that the | :44:05. | :44:06. | |
Government would encourage them to do so. Just about to conclude? We | :44:07. | :44:14. | |
are now awaiting me were written judgment from the High Court that | :44:15. | :44:17. | |
will outline our next steps in due course. The house should be assured | :44:18. | :44:21. | |
we will seek to take whatever measures are necessary to give | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
schools and local authorities the power and clarity to ensure that | :44:26. | :44:28. | |
children attend school when they should. I do thank the Minister for | :44:29. | :44:36. | |
his answer, however there is another aspect of this policy that sadly, to | :44:37. | :44:42. | |
date, has been ignored, the economic impact this policy is having an | :44:43. | :44:46. | |
poorest areas, particularly in Cornwall. In 2014 report published | :44:47. | :44:51. | |
indicated the tourist industry in Cornwall had lost ?50 million as a | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
result. I would say to the Minister that there is nothing socially more | :44:56. | :44:58. | |
well for a family if your parents lose their job or have their hours | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
cut because of the downturn in the tourist industry and the way it | :45:03. | :45:07. | |
affects their job. I would also put the Minister that is another case | :45:08. | :45:12. | |
that only 8% of school absentees is a result of family holidays at when | :45:13. | :45:16. | |
you look at the attainment of those children, there is no drop-off in | :45:17. | :45:21. | |
the attainment and family holidays are good for children, they widen | :45:22. | :45:25. | |
their knowledge of the world and expose them to new experiences and | :45:26. | :45:29. | |
children his family taken on holiday often perform better as a direct | :45:30. | :45:33. | |
result. Can I ask the Minister to please look at this again and if he | :45:34. | :45:37. | |
is going to bring forward measures to tighten these rules or strengthen | :45:38. | :45:40. | |
them, can you assure the house there will be a full debate in this | :45:41. | :45:44. | |
chamber on this occasion that it will not be secondary legislation | :45:45. | :45:47. | |
and this time there will be a fool impact assessment carried out | :45:48. | :45:53. | |
including the economic impact on the tourist industries is antifamily | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
test will be applied to this measure and that a full public consultation | :45:59. | :46:03. | |
will take place that considers the impact on all stakeholders, not just | :46:04. | :46:06. | |
education, but the wider society and families especially. Thank you. In | :46:07. | :46:17. | |
answer that two to that specific question, before 20 31st family | :46:18. | :46:22. | |
holiday is made up between five and 6% of people absences. That figure | :46:23. | :46:29. | |
has dropped to 2.3% in 2013-14 and 1.2% in 2014-15. I don't believe, | :46:30. | :46:38. | |
with the greatest of respect, that we should be returning to the | :46:39. | :46:42. | |
Dickensian world where the needs of industry and commerce take | :46:43. | :46:46. | |
precedence over the education of children. Mike honourable friend's | :46:47. | :46:53. | |
constituency is in the beautiful county of Cornwall and has accuses | :46:54. | :46:58. | |
zestful and thriving tourist industry. -- hugely successful. It | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
generates about ?2 billion of income for the UK economy. I doubt that the | :47:04. | :47:08. | |
Cornish tourist industry will be best pleased by my honourable | :47:09. | :47:15. | |
friend's assertion that tourism in Cornwall is dependent on treating | :47:16. | :47:21. | |
children for its survival. -- true wanting. Another week, another | :47:22. | :47:27. | |
crisis for the Department Frederick. Ministers need to get a grip. Their | :47:28. | :47:31. | |
with school structures means they focus on the wrong issues mean they | :47:32. | :47:36. | |
failed to deal with the bread-and-butter issues that matter | :47:37. | :47:40. | |
to parents. All evidence shows that regular attendance is crucial to | :47:41. | :47:45. | |
ensuring children fulfil their potential, 100% attendance records | :47:46. | :47:48. | |
should be the ambition of all children in schools but this problem | :47:49. | :47:52. | |
is of the Government's on making. Changing the diet instead teachers | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
back in 2013, they should have done a fool impact assessment much | :47:57. | :48:01. | |
earlier and acted to address concerns. The honourable member | :48:02. | :48:04. | |
letter Westminster debate on the 50,000 strong position in the | :48:05. | :48:07. | |
autumn, the Government said then they would look at the concerns | :48:08. | :48:11. | |
raised, they've known this ruling is coming for a long time, they could | :48:12. | :48:14. | |
have clarified the drop and they haven't. This ruling is now the | :48:15. | :48:18. | |
worst of both worlds, it puts parents and head teachers in a | :48:19. | :48:22. | |
difficult position and is not the best interests of children. By and | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
large the system to 2012 with head having some discretion was working | :48:27. | :48:31. | |
welcome parents and headteachers had a clear signal children should be in | :48:32. | :48:36. | |
school. Headteachers know their parents and school community well | :48:37. | :48:42. | |
and they are accountable for their children and school should have | :48:43. | :48:44. | |
appropriate discretion. Will the Minister pledged to work with all | :48:45. | :48:49. | |
interested parties across this house and outside this house to clarify | :48:50. | :48:54. | |
the law in the interests of pupils, schools and parents. We pledge to | :48:55. | :48:58. | |
work with him on that. The reality is that ministers have been asleep | :48:59. | :49:01. | |
at the wheel, focusing on the wrong issues when we have teacher | :49:02. | :49:07. | |
shortages and problems in primary assessment and it is time to the | :49:08. | :49:11. | |
ministers to take their heads out of the sand and deal with these | :49:12. | :49:14. | |
fundamental issues rather than fixating on school types and the | :49:15. | :49:18. | |
expense of raising schools to hundreds. Will he do that now? I | :49:19. | :49:26. | |
listen carefully but I feel that this is not on the same side as we | :49:27. | :49:29. | |
are when it comes to raising schools to hundreds and improving school | :49:30. | :49:36. | |
attendance is absolutely key to raising academic standards. What | :49:37. | :49:40. | |
happened under the last Labour Government that it became accepted | :49:41. | :49:43. | |
wisdom that parents could take their children out of school for term temp | :49:44. | :49:48. | |
holidays throughout the ten days a year. Those numbers were causing an | :49:49. | :49:52. | |
issue for us, we have to address the problem that we inherited from last | :49:53. | :49:58. | |
Labour Government. Order. Let me say the Minister of State is going about | :49:59. | :50:03. | |
his duty in the conscientious way we've come to expect. There is a | :50:04. | :50:09. | |
significant number of young children observing our proceedings this | :50:10. | :50:14. | |
morning and I doubt rather whether they will be greatly impressed by | :50:15. | :50:19. | |
the deputies on each side of the house conducting a kind of a verbal | :50:20. | :50:25. | |
tug of war from which each of them should desist. Partly in | :50:26. | :50:28. | |
consideration of the children and partly out of respect for the | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
Minister of State from whom we should hear! I am most grateful. As | :50:33. | :50:40. | |
I was saying, under the last Labour Government it had become accepted | :50:41. | :50:44. | |
wisdom that parents could take their children out of school for term temp | :50:45. | :50:47. | |
holidays for up to ten days a year and we had to address that popular | :50:48. | :50:51. | |
perception. That's why the regulations were changed in 2013. In | :50:52. | :51:00. | |
2012 32.7 million people days were lost due to authorised absences, | :51:01. | :51:05. | |
which is formed 28.6 point 6,000,020 14-15, that some 4 million fewer | :51:06. | :51:10. | |
people school days lost as a consequence of those changes to the | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
2013 make relations. That is a huge success that I wish the honourable | :51:15. | :51:22. | |
gentleman would support that change. Can I ask the minister if he would | :51:23. | :51:26. | |
agree with me that taking children out of school to come to the mother | :51:27. | :51:31. | |
of all parliaments and learn about our democracy as one thing but | :51:32. | :51:37. | |
taking them to land, Florida, in another. And, well, the work -- | :51:38. | :51:44. | |
rigger he's broken two brought to the subject of education and does he | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
agree that if this country will succeed it needs to take education | :51:50. | :51:54. | |
seriously. My honourable friend is right. This is about social justice. | :51:55. | :51:59. | |
When parents with income take their children out of school to go to | :52:00. | :52:03. | |
Florida, it sends a message to everyone that school attendance is | :52:04. | :52:06. | |
not important. There is no circumstance in which a trip to | :52:07. | :52:10. | |
Disney World can be regarded as educational. Can I asked the | :52:11. | :52:16. | |
minister, I'm very fond of him and I thought he had a bit of a touch of | :52:17. | :52:20. | |
the dickens about him, but isn't the fact that this is a serious | :52:21. | :52:25. | |
fundamental problem that we still squeeze the summer holidays into | :52:26. | :52:29. | |
about a six-week period that British Airways charge the earth to going | :52:30. | :52:32. | |
round Center Parcs treble their rates. It is a serious problem that | :52:33. | :52:38. | |
we should tackle for everyone possible benefit. I am on the side | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
of being tough. I have constituents with great pressure from the Muslim | :52:43. | :52:48. | |
community, especially Pakistan, to take their children out and they are | :52:49. | :52:51. | |
the children that have been suffering. I am on the side of being | :52:52. | :52:56. | |
tough, but let's look at this in a more fundamental way, please. The | :52:57. | :53:00. | |
honourable gentleman who I have a huge admiration for the former chair | :53:01. | :53:03. | |
of the educational select committee, is right. We need to look at this | :53:04. | :53:08. | |
issue are more fundamental win that's we've given schools the | :53:09. | :53:14. | |
freedom to set their term dates. They should be helping to coordinate | :53:15. | :53:23. | |
schools so that they set different candidates that help their own | :53:24. | :53:30. | |
tourist industries. Is the Minister agreeing with me that educational | :53:31. | :53:34. | |
attainment is directly correlated to attendance and that narrowing the | :53:35. | :53:38. | |
attainment gap and raising standards must be a priority for any | :53:39. | :53:41. | |
Government that cares about the future of our children? Honourable | :53:42. | :53:47. | |
friend is right. There is ample evidence that even taking a few days | :53:48. | :53:53. | |
off school can have a serious effect on child's education. Particularly | :53:54. | :53:58. | |
those secondary school years leading up to GCSE but also in primary | :53:59. | :54:03. | |
education. Where the pattern of attendance is set. Charlie Taylor, | :54:04. | :54:07. | |
our behaviour expert in the last Parliament, took a view that it's | :54:08. | :54:10. | |
more important to set the precedent in Primary School so that children | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
can enter secondary school are already in the habit of attending | :54:15. | :54:24. | |
school every day. The Government is underlying the importance of giving | :54:25. | :54:27. | |
head, and I support that in almost all cases with the exception of the | :54:28. | :54:30. | |
opt out in religion to sex education, which I think are | :54:31. | :54:34. | |
unacceptable. English and to turn time absences does the Minister | :54:35. | :54:40. | |
agree that some holidays or the attendance of family funerals are | :54:41. | :54:44. | |
both can be informative, educational or research at the autonomy and the | :54:45. | :54:47. | |
discretion to decide whether in those exceptional circumstances | :54:48. | :54:52. | |
should children be allowed to random absences and shouldn't the law | :54:53. | :54:57. | |
reflect that? The honourable gentleman accurately reflects the | :54:58. | :55:00. | |
law as it stands, that editors do have the discretion to grant term | :55:01. | :55:04. | |
time absence in exceptional circumstances and the examples he | :55:05. | :55:09. | |
cited court for example, funerals, is an example of the exceptional | :55:10. | :55:13. | |
circumstance. Term term holiday to take advantage of lower prices would | :55:14. | :55:22. | |
not be regarded as exceptional. Following on the same theme, the | :55:23. | :55:26. | |
Government has been very consistent in saying it believes that a school | :55:27. | :55:31. | |
should have more freedom from the state in making decisions. Does the | :55:32. | :55:36. | |
Minister believe that this particular case you doesn't believe | :55:37. | :55:38. | |
that schools should have those freedoms ordered two or is it that | :55:39. | :55:43. | |
the schools have asked him to relieve them of the particular | :55:44. | :55:47. | |
freedoms in these case? Whatever the rights and wrongs of the particular | :55:48. | :55:51. | |
issue, it is clearly inconsistent with the Government's believe in | :55:52. | :55:56. | |
giving schools greater freedoms? The schools themselves have increased | :55:57. | :56:02. | |
freedoms if they adopt those academy status. They have freedom of the | :56:03. | :56:05. | |
curriculum and turned it that these rules apply to individuals, there is | :56:06. | :56:09. | |
no freedom for an individual not to educate their children. Have to | :56:10. | :56:13. | |
attend school or attain education otherwise, which is I think the law. | :56:14. | :56:18. | |
This is about the law applying to parents. We want a society where | :56:19. | :56:22. | |
education is compulsory for all Tiltman in our country. -- for all | :56:23. | :56:28. | |
children. The Minister must acknowledge the limbo that schools | :56:29. | :56:32. | |
now find themselves in, the head teachers know precisely what the | :56:33. | :56:37. | |
regulations say, but they also know what the High Court ruling is. Can | :56:38. | :56:41. | |
the Minister clarify for the benefit of the headteachers who might be | :56:42. | :56:47. | |
listening in on this statement what he thinks it should take precedent, | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
the High Court judgment or the rulings as they stand? And if it is | :56:52. | :56:54. | |
the High Court judgment on how quickly is the Government come to | :56:55. | :56:59. | |
this house to reassert what it wants in terms of the judgment? We are | :57:00. | :57:07. | |
still waiting to receive the written judgment of the local and as soon as | :57:08. | :57:13. | |
we receive that we will refer that the honourable gentleman | :57:14. | :57:14. | |
. Honourable gentleman and the house. | :57:15. | :57:25. | |
The High Court judgment used in 90% threshold, where Ofsted will | :57:26. | :57:34. | |
criticise those with an attendance below 95%? A 10% absence rate | :57:35. | :57:40. | |
equates to one day off a fortnight. I don't think we should be | :57:41. | :57:45. | |
encouraging that sort of attendance records in our schools. Thank you, | :57:46. | :57:50. | |
Mr Speaker. We have heard a lot of talk from the minister about | :57:51. | :57:54. | |
tackling the symptoms, I don't believe enough has been done to | :57:55. | :57:58. | |
tackle the cause, which are these companies which can get away with | :57:59. | :58:05. | |
charging astronomical prices during holiday time. When will the | :58:06. | :58:10. | |
Government do something to tackle this rip-off culture in our society? | :58:11. | :58:15. | |
This wassen issue can examined some -- which was examines some years | :58:16. | :58:20. | |
ago. It is not an issue of the holiday companies ripping off | :58:21. | :58:23. | |
consumers. It is the case that hotels around the world and in this | :58:24. | :58:27. | |
country charge higher rates during the summer months and peek seasons | :58:28. | :58:33. | |
than they do out of peek. Of peak. That is a question of market | :58:34. | :58:38. | |
economics. Mr Platt is a resident of my island and it is the Isle of | :58:39. | :58:44. | |
Wight council's decision to take him to court which has brought about | :58:45. | :58:48. | |
this situation. It seems to me that the legislation is quite clear, it | :58:49. | :58:54. | |
is for the head teacher to decide what constitutes exceptional | :58:55. | :58:57. | |
circumstances. The head is undoubtedly to the best position to | :58:58. | :59:01. | |
take account of the full picture in any request for absence. It is hard | :59:02. | :59:07. | |
to envisage legislation, or even guidance, devised here or in | :59:08. | :59:12. | |
Whitehall, that could probably take account of all possible exceptional | :59:13. | :59:16. | |
circumstances. Does the Government intend to take away these decisions | :59:17. | :59:23. | |
from the person who is ultimately responsible for the performance of | :59:24. | :59:29. | |
their school? No, my honourable friend explains the situation | :59:30. | :59:32. | |
accurately. It is a question for the head teacher to determine. And they | :59:33. | :59:37. | |
should determine whether there are exceptional circumstances to grant | :59:38. | :59:40. | |
authorised absences. It does rest with the head teacher. The current | :59:41. | :59:47. | |
situation is obviously lacking in clarity after this judgment. My | :59:48. | :59:52. | |
concern was there was a lack of clarity beforehand, that perhaps the | :59:53. | :59:55. | |
minister might turn his attention to. I had a case where a family | :59:56. | :00:00. | |
whose grandmother was Spanish were denied the opportunity to go to her | :00:01. | :00:07. | |
funeral in Spain. I wonder if the minister would consider providing | :00:08. | :00:12. | |
greater clarity to head teachers to ensure that kind of travel is | :00:13. | :00:15. | |
considered exceptional circumstances? Well, I think the | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
situation was before the High Court judgment was very clear that the | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
head teacher has discretion whether or not to grant authorised absence | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
and can do so only in exceptional circumstances. The NAHT have | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
produced a two-page guidance which sets out what they believe their | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
members should decide when determining whether an about sense | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
should be authorised. The issue of funerals, it makes it clear in this | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
guidance that fun would be regarded -- that funerals would be regarded | :00:48. | :00:53. | |
as an exceptional circumstance. People now feel frustrated by term | :00:54. | :00:58. | |
times and holidays based in an agrar Ryan past. Would my honourable | :00:59. | :01:04. | |
friend agree that communities based in rural locations often have small | :01:05. | :01:11. | |
village schools which stand to suffer disproportionately when there | :01:12. | :01:14. | |
are absences from the sort that he has described? Yes, my honourable | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
friend makes a very valid point. This is not just about pupil's | :01:19. | :01:24. | |
education, which it is. It is also about the challenge it presents to | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
teachers as they seek to deliver catch-up lessons to the pupils who | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
were absent. In a small school with small class sizes it is doubly | :01:35. | :01:36. | |
difficult for the teacher. THE SPEAKER: Mark Spencer. What | :01:37. | :01:45. | |
assistance can the minister give to parents, to give them the education | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
they might require when making decisions whether to take their | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
children out of school or not? It seems that a minority of parents are | :01:53. | :01:55. | |
making the wrong decision. Can he supply any more information on the | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
impact of removing those children from school at the time they choose | :01:59. | :02:04. | |
to do that? My honourable friend makes a good point. We need to | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
emphasise the evidence that even small absences from school will have | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
a long-term impact on a child's education, as I set out in my | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
opening comments. A lot of education is that you need to learn one thing | :02:20. | :02:22. | |
before another. If a teacher is not able to provide a catch-up lesson | :02:23. | :02:28. | |
for that child they will permanently miss out on a crucial part of | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
education. Does my honourable friend agree that this Government has taken | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
positive steps to reduce the cost of family holidays and therefore reduce | :02:38. | :02:44. | |
the financial incentive to reduce term time absence. Last year | :02:45. | :02:52. | |
four-and-a-half million under 12 flews tax free. | :02:53. | :02:58. | |
My honourable friend make the point better than I could have done. Thank | :02:59. | :03:06. | |
you, Mr Speaker. Whilst I agree with the Government's response and their | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
determination to raise standards, I do have some sympathy with my | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
honourable friend, and the situation where we have a number of schools | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
with a high concentration of people in the tourist industry, where they | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
are relatively low pay, where there has not been a significant enough | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
change in the cost of holidays and when there is not momentum around | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
changes in Terims, there are a number of -- of term time and there | :03:31. | :03:40. | |
is a number of to get into regional dialogue for economies where there | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
could be a significant effect. I am happy to have a dialogue with my | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
honourable friend. We have given discretion to academies to set their | :03:50. | :03:55. | |
own term dates. I would urge all honourable friends representing | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
areas with high levels of tourism to work with their schools, with their | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
local authority, with other local authorities, to find a way in which | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
they can set term dates which do reflect the needs of their local | :04:08. | :04:10. | |
communities. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My honourable friend will know that | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
actually in terms of children being absent from school it is disruptive | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
to the child who is missing school but also to the class when they try | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
to catch up. One of the experiments tried at the moment is to extend the | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
school day by 30 minutes and extending the half term from one | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
week to two weeks in certain areas now to aa position where parents can | :04:34. | :04:40. | |
take their children on holiday for a two-week period. What does my | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
honourable friend think of that idea? It is precisely the kind of | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
idea we hope and expect will come out of the discretion that we have | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
granted to academies in this country. There are many schools that | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
are taking advantage of that particular freedom. Statement, the | :05:00. | :05:08. | |
Secretary of State for Health. Secretary Jeremy Hunt. | :05:09. | :05:10. | |
Thank you. For the last three years there have been repeated attempts to | :05:11. | :05:18. | |
reform the junior doctor's contract to support better patient care seven | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
days a week, culminating in a dispute which has lasted over 10 | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
months after ten days of discussion under the au pishs of ACAS, the | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
dispute was resolved yesterday with an historic agreement between the | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
Government, NHS employers, acting on behalf of the employers of doctors | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
and the BMA which will modernise the contract making it better for | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
doctors and patients. The new contract meets all the Government's | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
red lines for delivering a seven-day NHS and remains within the existing | :05:53. | :06:00. | |
pay envelope. We will publish an equallied analysis alongside a | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
renewed contract. It will be put to a ballot of the BMA membership next | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
month with the support of the leader, the chair of the committee. | :06:08. | :06:13. | |
Mr Speaker, I would first of all like to express my thanks to the BMA | :06:14. | :06:19. | |
for the leadership they have shown in returning to talks, negotiating | :06:20. | :06:22. | |
in good faith and making an agreement possible. I would like to | :06:23. | :06:30. | |
put on record my thanks to Sir Barber for his excellent stewardship | :06:31. | :06:38. | |
and to Sir Dalton for his wisdom and insight. | :06:39. | :06:44. | |
The agreement will facilitate the biggest changes to the junior | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
doctors' contract since 1999. It will allow the Government to delive | :06:50. | :06:57. | |
a seven-day NHS, improve patient safety, support productivity | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
improvements and impoveing the morale of junior doctors with a | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
modern contract fit for a modern health service. The contract, | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
inherited by this Government, had a number of features badly in need of | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
reform, including low levels of basic pay as a proportion of total | :07:14. | :07:19. | |
income, making doctors rely on unpredict Kabul supplements to boost | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
their income, automatic annual pay rises even when people take | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
prolonged periods of leave from the NHS. An unfair banded system which | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
triggers premium rates to every team member, even if only one person has | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
worked the extra hours. High premium rates for weekend work which make it | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
difficult tos are ter staff in line with patient need and risks to | :07:46. | :07:48. | |
patient safety with doctors sometimes required to work seven | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
full days or seven full nights in a row, without proper rest periods. | :07:54. | :07:56. | |
This Government has always been determined that our NHS should offer | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
the safest, highest quality of care possible, which means a consistent | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
standard of care for patients admitted across all seven days of | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
the week. So, the new contract agreed yesterday makes the biggest | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
set of changes to the junior doctor's contract forren 17 years, | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
including establishing the principal that any doctor who works less than | :08:19. | :08:23. | |
an average of one weekend day per month, Saturday or Sunday, should | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
receive no additional premium pay, compensated by an increase of basic | :08:30. | :08:35. | |
pay between 10-11%. Reducing the marginal cost of employing | :08:36. | :08:38. | |
additional doctors at the weekend by a third. Supporting all hospitals to | :08:39. | :08:45. | |
meet the clinical standard, by establishing a new role for | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
experienced junior doctors, a senior clinical decision makers, able to | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
make expert assessments of vulnerable patients who may be | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
admitted or staying in hospitals over weekends and removing t | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
disincentive tos are ter sufficient number of doctors at the weekend by | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
replacing a banding system with a fairer system which values week | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
yeend work by paying social hours -- unsocial hours worked with more pay | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
to those who worked the most. The Government recognises that safer | :09:20. | :09:22. | |
care for patients is more likely to be provided by well-motivated | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
doctors who have sufficient rest between shifts and work in a | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
family-friendly system. So, the new contract and ACAS agreement will | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
improve the well being of our critical junior doctor workforce by | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
reducing the maximum number of hours a doctor can be asked to work in a | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
week from 91-72. Reducing the number of nights a doctor can be asked to | :09:44. | :09:49. | |
work in a row to four. And reducing the number of long days a doctor can | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
be asked to work to five. Introducing a new post, guardian of | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
safe working in every trust to guard against doctors being asked to work | :09:58. | :10:04. | |
excessive hours. Introducing a new catch-up programme for doctors who | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
take community leave or other time off for caring responsibilities. | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
Establishing a review to see how best to allow couples to train in | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
the same areand a offer training placements for those with caring | :10:19. | :10:21. | |
responsibilities close to their home. Giving pay protection to | :10:22. | :10:27. | |
doctors who switch specialities and establishing a review to inform a | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
new requirement on trusts to consider caring and other family | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
responsibilities when designing rotas. Taken together, these changes | :10:35. | :10:40. | |
show the Government's commitment to safe care for patients and the value | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
we attach to the role of junior doctors. Whilst they do not remove | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
every bug bear or frustration, they will significantly improve | :10:52. | :10:54. | |
flexibility and work life balance for doctor, leading, we hope, to | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
improved retention rates, higher morale and better care for patients. | :10:59. | :11:04. | |
But whatever the progress made with today's landmark changes it will | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
always be a matter of great regret it was necessary to go through such | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
disruptive industrial action to get there. | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
We may welcome the destination, but no-one could have wanted the | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
journey. Today, I say to all junior doctors, whatever our disagreements | :11:22. | :11:24. | |
about the contract may have been, the Government has heard and | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
understood the wider frustrations that you feel about the way you are | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
valued and treated in the NHS. Our priority will always be the safety | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
of patients, but we also recognise that to deliver high-quality care we | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
need a well-motivated and happy junior doctor workforce, putting a | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
new modern contract in place is not the end of the story. We will | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
continue to engage constructively with you to try and resolve | :11:53. | :11:59. | |
outstanding issues, as we proceed on our journey to tackle head on the | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
journey the NHS faces and make it the highest quality health care | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
system in where in the world. Today's agreement shows we can make | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
common cause on that journey w a contract better for patients, for | :12:12. | :12:17. | |
doctors and better for the NHS and I commend it to the House. | :12:18. | :12:25. | |
I want to start by putting on record our thanks to Sir Brendan Barber and | :12:26. | :12:33. | |
the cars for the role they've played in fighting agreements between the | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
two sides in this dispute. -- finding agreement. I want a good | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
pitch to the Academy of red medical Royal colleges who proposed these | :12:43. | :12:46. | |
further talks and encourage the Government and the BMA to pause and | :12:47. | :12:52. | |
think about patients. I have not been shy in telling the house | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
secretary what I think about his handling of this dispute. That today | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
is not the day to repeat those criticisms. I am pleased and | :13:02. | :13:08. | |
relieved that an agreement has been reached, but I am sad that it took | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
an all-out strike of junior doctors to get the Government back to the | :13:14. | :13:20. | |
table. What is now clear, if it wasn't already, is that a negotiated | :13:21. | :13:25. | |
agreement was possible all along. So I have to ask the house secretary: | :13:26. | :13:31. | |
Why couldn't this deal had been struck in February? Why did he allow | :13:32. | :13:38. | |
his pride back then to come before sensible compromise and constructive | :13:39. | :13:44. | |
talks? When he stands up, he might try to blame the BMA for the | :13:45. | :13:48. | |
negotiations breaking down, but he failed to say what options he was | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
prepared to consider in order to ensure that the junior doctors who | :13:56. | :14:01. | |
work the most unsociable hours are fairly awarded. It was a computer | :14:02. | :14:09. | |
says no attitude and that is no way to run the NHS. Why did he ignore my | :14:10. | :14:14. | |
letter to him on the 7th of February on which I asked him to make an | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
explicit and public commitment to further concessions on the issue of | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
unsociable hours. I was clear that if he had done that then I was | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
having courage to BMA to return to talks. Why did he instead insist | :14:30. | :14:38. | |
upon trying to bulldoze and impose the contract through when virtue | :14:39. | :14:41. | |
everyone told him not to and the consequences of doing so were | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
obvious fraud to see, protracted industrial action, destroyed morale | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
and eight complete Britain in trust. -- for all to see. Can it house | :14:51. | :14:57. | |
secretary say more about the changes agreed that can undo the | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
discriminate effects on women of the last contract he published? Does he | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
now accept the previous contract discriminated against women? Will he | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
be clear for the record that he note two now understands that this was | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
never just about pay, can he confirm the concessions have been made not | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
only in respect of the mechanism for enforcing hours worked and breaks | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
taken, but also in ensuring that those specialities with the biggest | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
recruitment problems have decent incentives built into the contract. | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
Moving on to what happens next, can he tell us what he will do if junior | :15:39. | :15:45. | |
doctors vote against this offer? Will he still impose a contract? And | :15:46. | :15:52. | |
which version of the contract will he impose? His preferred version or | :15:53. | :15:59. | |
this compromise one? Can he say whether the possibility of losing a | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
case in the High Court about his power to impose a contract had | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
anything to do with his recently discovered eagerness to return to | :16:11. | :16:17. | |
talks? We all know it High Court told him he had acted above the law | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
when he tried to take the axe to my local hospital, so I can understand | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
why he does not want that embarrassment again, and finally, | :16:27. | :16:33. | |
can I caution him on his use of language both in this chamber and on | :16:34. | :16:41. | |
the media. His loose words and implied criticism of junior doctors | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
is partly the reason why this has ended up being such an almighty | :16:47. | :16:53. | |
mess. Can I suggest a degree of humility on the part of the | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
secretary of the state wouldn't go amiss. And can I encourage a period | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
of radio silence from him to allow junior doctors to consider the new | :17:04. | :17:09. | |
contract with a clear mind and without his spin echoing in their | :17:10. | :17:17. | |
ears? Let me remind the house secretary that he still needs to get | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
a majority of junior doctors to vote for this contract for this dispute | :17:22. | :17:28. | |
to be finally over. Mr Speaker, I hope with all my heart that the | :17:29. | :17:35. | |
agreement yesterday may offer a way forward. Junior doctors will want to | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
consider it, trust needs to be repaired and that will take time. I | :17:40. | :17:45. | |
hope for the sake of everyone patients and doctors that we might | :17:46. | :17:51. | |
see an end to this very sorry episode in NHS history. Mr Speaker, | :17:52. | :18:03. | |
she is wrong today as she has been wrong throughout this dispute. She | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
spent a lot of time in the last ten months criticising the way the | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
Government has sought to change this contract. What she did not dwell on | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
was why it needed to be change in the first place, namely the four | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
flawed contract put in place in 1999, we have major screamers with | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
the BMA but once we agree on was Labour's contract was not fit for | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
purpose. -- many disagreements. Could size and the contract right is | :18:34. | :18:37. | |
like could sizing the mechanic making the car you just crashed and | :18:38. | :18:44. | |
it's time she polished the contract changes -- acknowledged the contract | :18:45. | :18:47. | |
changes have led to the number of the five day care problems were | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
trying to sort out. She was also wrong to say that an all-out strike | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
was necessary to resolve this dispute. The reason that the talks | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
were not in the last ten days, the meaningful talks that we had, is | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
because the BMA changed its position and agreed great goal sheet is | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
wrecked to negotiate an weekend pay. She told the house four times before | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
that change of heart that we should not impose a new contract. What | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
would have happened if we have followed her advice? Quite simply | :19:22. | :19:24. | |
today we would not have had the biggest single step towards a | :19:25. | :19:30. | |
seven-day NHS for a generation. The biggest reforms Don social hours for | :19:31. | :19:36. | |
17 years, with the extra cost of employing a doctor at the weekend is | :19:37. | :19:39. | |
going down by one third. We would not have had the reductions in | :19:40. | :19:44. | |
maximum working hours or many other changes that improve the safety for | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
patients and quality of life for doctors. She was wrong to say that | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
the previous contract was discriminatory against women, it | :19:55. | :19:57. | |
removes discrimination, but does that mean there are a lot of things | :19:58. | :20:04. | |
that we can do to support women who work as junior doctors? There are, | :20:05. | :20:10. | |
and that is why the new Deal announced yesterday has an important | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
and new character clause for women who take time off from maternity | :20:15. | :20:17. | |
leave him they can get back to the position they would have been in if | :20:18. | :20:20. | |
they had not had to take time off to have children. And she asked what | :20:21. | :20:27. | |
happens if the ballot goes the wrong way. What she failed to do was to | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
say whether she was encouraging junior doctors to vote for that | :20:33. | :20:38. | |
ballot, and I say to her that on the 28th of October she has told this | :20:39. | :20:44. | |
house that she supported the principle of seven-day services, but | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
as Tony Blair once said, you cannot will the end without willing the | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
means, and in this dispute shows refused to say that she was spot -- | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
supports the withdrawal of emergency care if you report -- supports | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
contentious changes to reform we can premium pay and now she won't even | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
say doctors should vote for the new agreement. Leadership is facing up | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
to difficult decisions, not ducking them. I say to her this Government | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
is prepared to take difficult decisions and fight battles that | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
improve quality and safety of care in the NHS. She's not willing to | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
fight them that is fine, but she shouldn't stand dispatch box and | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
claim Labour stands up for NHS patients. If she doesn't want to | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
listen to me perhaps she should listen to former Labour Minister Tom | :21:31. | :21:34. | |
Harris, who said strategically Labour should be on the side of the | :21:35. | :21:39. | |
patients and we aren't. If Labour isn't, the Conservatives are! Mr | :21:40. | :21:49. | |
Speaker, could I add my congratulations on both sides for | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
turning to constructive negotiations and far reaching an agreement and I | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
would like to pay particular tribute to Professor Sue Bailey in the | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
Academy of Medical Royal Colleges for their role in bringing both | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
sides together. I welcome the particular focus on all the other | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
aspects that are blighting the lives of junior doctors alongside | :22:11. | :22:13. | |
negotiations around weekend pay and recognising we need to focus on | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
those specialties which is hard to recruit two and those of junior | :22:18. | :22:21. | |
doctors who are working the longest hours of folks of patient safety. | :22:22. | :22:26. | |
We're not out of the woods yet, we need junior doctors to vote for this | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
in a referendum. And could I add my voice to the voices of the Leader of | :22:33. | :22:38. | |
the Opposition spokesman of health to say that I think what is needed | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
now is a period of calm reflection and to build relationships with | :22:44. | :22:46. | |
junior doctors going into the future. I wonder if this act of | :22:47. | :22:50. | |
state could comment on his plans for building a relationship with our | :22:51. | :22:56. | |
core workforce? Firstly I would like to very much agree with the | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
honourable lady in her thanks to Professor Dame Sue Bailey and the | :23:02. | :23:04. | |
leadership the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges has shown in making | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
the initiative that in the end made this detox possible and the | :23:11. | :23:12. | |
agreement is possible and I know it's been a difficult and | :23:13. | :23:15. | |
challenging time for the Royal colleges but I think Professor | :23:16. | :23:17. | |
Bailey showed real leadership in turn should have and I also very | :23:18. | :23:23. | |
much agree with her about the need to sort out some of the issues that | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
have been frustrations for junior doctors, not just in the last few | :23:28. | :23:31. | |
years, but going back decades in terms of the way their training work | :23:32. | :23:36. | |
and in terms of the flexibility of the system of six-month rotations | :23:37. | :23:40. | |
that they work in actually operates and this is an opportunity to look | :23:41. | :23:44. | |
at those wider issues, think we have started looking at some of them | :23:45. | :23:47. | |
yesterday and think there is more we can do and I think it is very | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
important that this is seen not as one side winning and the other side | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
losing, but as a win-win. But the last ten days it showed is that if | :23:58. | :24:03. | |
you sit around the table you commit real progress in a better deal for | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
patients and doctors and that is the spirit we want to go forward. I | :24:08. | :24:19. | |
absolutely welcome this agreement and I pay tribute to the Royal | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
Academy of Royal colleges for bringing this about. I do wish there | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
had been some response to the latter that we sent before the all out | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
strike. Simic letter. That was the attempt we were trying to make to | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
create a space that both sites could step into Britain that we got to it | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
now. I welcome the recognition the quality issues to us and many junior | :24:44. | :24:48. | |
doctors appear to be dismissed in the impact assessment, the idea of | :24:49. | :24:54. | |
flexible training champions in each trust, I myself was a flexible | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
training senior surgeon, the first one in Scotland at the time, and I | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
think that is really important. The idea was celebrated -- of | :25:03. | :25:07. | |
accelerated training that one concern I have is the issue of | :25:08. | :25:13. | |
childcare, if women, junior doctors, will be working longer shifts and | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
more anti-social shifts, I remember myself when I had to fork out for | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
childcare, I would like to know, will the NHS respond to that? Is | :25:22. | :25:27. | |
that in question are as -- crash hours or support? I welcome the | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
hours Guardian will also be linked to the Director of medical education | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
and they will be an elected junior doctors for. That was one of their | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
concerns that they would have no voice in relation to the Guardian. I | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
also welcome the idea of using modern technology in rota creation. | :25:45. | :25:51. | |
At the moment rodders are sheets of paper and often no one looks at the | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
shoulder of one closer to the next and people can end up with very long | :25:56. | :26:01. | |
periods on call. I do welcome that but one concern that remains is the | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
issue of rota gaps, we actually don't have enough junior doctors and | :26:07. | :26:10. | |
we don't have enough junior doctors in the most acute specialties. I | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
would ask, how is the Secretary of State planning to re-establish a | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
relationship? How will he recruit people to fill that gap? Because | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
that was actually the coffee of junior doctors, lack of doctors | :26:26. | :26:29. | |
simply being spread further. How will we recruit and retain after all | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
of the painful clash that has been going on for the last year? I | :26:35. | :26:40. | |
welcome the tone of her comments, which I might say could have been | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
the tone we might have wanted from the Shadow Health Secretary. Let me | :26:46. | :26:51. | |
address constructively her comments as she made them constructively to | :26:52. | :26:54. | |
me that she is right about flexible training, we have to recognise that | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
we have a junior doctor workforce that is now majority female, that | :27:00. | :27:05. | |
has a number of family and caring pressures that need to be taken | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
account of and we need to do this for the NHS as well as because it is | :27:11. | :27:11. | |
the right thing to do. I think we have to look at | :27:12. | :27:23. | |
particularly the east Responsibilities of doctors with | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
young children and one of the things we anoinsed yesterday was an | :27:28. | :27:34. | |
obligation on trusts to take account of caring responsibilities. If you | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
have a doctor who wants to work less time during school holiday ands more | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
and during term time. The needs of patients have to come first. It | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
could be something which could be taken account of, in the way that | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
many other industries which operate 24/7 do. She's right to say that | :27:53. | :27:56. | |
modern technology is key for this. If you are an air steward working | :27:57. | :28:05. | |
for basmt, you can go on to an electronic system yourself and | :28:06. | :28:08. | |
choose the hours you wish to work. We have seen a lot of low come work | :28:09. | :28:17. | |
which is partly driven because they offer the flexibilities that people | :28:18. | :28:19. | |
need. These are important changes and we intend to take them forward. | :28:20. | :28:25. | |
May I tell my Right Honourable friend that the actions of him and | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
his department and the BMA in reaching an agreement will be warmly | :28:31. | :28:35. | |
welcomed, but will be met with a sigh of relief. Will he accept that | :28:36. | :28:41. | |
the fact that the BMA were prepared to think again on crucial issues | :28:42. | :28:45. | |
like overtime at weekends, should not be seen as a sign of weakness, | :28:46. | :28:51. | |
but of maturity in working the Government to ensure a seven-day NHS | :28:52. | :28:58. | |
that is for the benefit of patients and patient safety? I agree with | :28:59. | :29:06. | |
that wise comment, as befits someone who is in fact experienced and | :29:07. | :29:09. | |
working in the Department of Health. You always get further if you sit | :29:10. | :29:13. | |
around the table and talk about these issues and it is much better | :29:14. | :29:19. | |
when you have a Government that is determined to improve the quality | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
and safety of care for patients, it is also better to recognise that if | :29:24. | :29:28. | |
the Government is successful that will also be better for the morale | :29:29. | :29:32. | |
of doctors because the happiest, most motivated doctors are working | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
in the hospitals which are giving the best care for patients. That is | :29:37. | :29:44. | |
why it is a win win. It was the refusal for many wreers of the BMA | :29:45. | :29:49. | |
to discuss the issue that my Right Honourable friend referred to meant | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
we did reach a deadlock. It was the fact this Government was willing to | :29:54. | :29:57. | |
proceed with important reforms on our own f we had to, which meant in | :29:58. | :30:02. | |
the end everyone came together and got a sensible negotiation. Everyone | :30:03. | :30:06. | |
would have wished we did haven't to go on the journey we did to get | :30:07. | :30:09. | |
there. Now we have got there it is the time for being constructive on | :30:10. | :30:14. | |
all sides. Can I thank the minister and the BMA for coming to an | :30:15. | :30:19. | |
agreement. It is a win win for everyone. Talk dialogue does bring | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
results. It happened in Northern Ireland and in the conclusion of | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
this process as well. 45,000 junior doctor BMA members will now be asked | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
to vote in this and a date has been reached. We've had eight days of | :30:34. | :30:39. | |
strikes since January. A cancellation of who,000 planned | :30:40. | :30:44. | |
operations -- 40,000 planned operations what will be done to | :30:45. | :30:51. | |
catch up with those cancelrationlations? We are in | :30:52. | :31:01. | |
constant touch with the devolved regions to make sure they know of | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
the changes we are making and to share any learn from the pro-ess | :31:07. | :31:09. | |
ises we have been through. We -- processes we have been through. We | :31:10. | :31:13. | |
are across the country now doing everything we can to catch one the | :31:14. | :31:19. | |
back log of all the things which have been affected by the industrial | :31:20. | :31:25. | |
relations dispute. Trust will always priority the areas where clinical | :31:26. | :31:28. | |
need is the greatest. I know that work is on going across the country. | :31:29. | :31:34. | |
Thank you, Mr Speaker. I very much welcome the agreement that has been | :31:35. | :31:41. | |
reached. We know that the Secretary of State recognises the important of | :31:42. | :31:46. | |
having a happy and well-motivated workforce and this contract | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
addresses many of the causes of unhappiness for junior doctors. It | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
is particularly good to see addressing the problems of couples | :31:56. | :31:58. | |
who are both junior doctors. There is more to do, has been | :31:59. | :32:02. | |
acknowledged, especially on the reasons why junior doctors feel | :32:03. | :32:08. | |
unsupported and not valued by their employers. My honourable friend | :32:09. | :32:14. | |
commissioned a report and a review from Sue Bailey, underlining the | :32:15. | :32:17. | |
problems of junior doctors in training. Can he advise us whether | :32:18. | :32:25. | |
this review will proceed? The request from the BMA was to find a | :32:26. | :32:29. | |
way of proceeding with that very important work and we will do it | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
with the input of Professor Bailey because she has an important | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
contribution to make. She is right to say that as well as the issue of | :32:38. | :32:42. | |
more flexible working for people with family commitments, the big | :32:43. | :32:45. | |
issue for many junior doctors is the way the training process happens. In | :32:46. | :32:49. | |
particular the way that continuity of training has been undermined by | :32:50. | :32:54. | |
the new shift system, which we need for reasons of patient safety. That | :32:55. | :33:00. | |
often means that you can have a different consultant giving advice | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
on different aspects of care from day-to-day. That is frustrating. We | :33:04. | :33:08. | |
will look at all those issues with Professor Bailey, with health | :33:09. | :33:11. | |
education England and with the BMA to see if we can find a better way | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
forward. Will the Secretary of State be aware | :33:17. | :33:23. | |
that even my constituents struggling the possible closure of the A in | :33:24. | :33:30. | |
Huddersfield will otherwise welcome and say thank you to everyone who | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
has brought this about. Including, I have to say, the leaders of the | :33:35. | :33:38. | |
opposition parties, our spokeses people who have done so much to help | :33:39. | :33:45. | |
a positive spirit? Will he just not glout about that or keep that period | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
of silence because out there, this is part of the phenomenon of the | :33:50. | :33:55. | |
deep unhappiness about the NHS and problems will arise again because so | :33:56. | :34:02. | |
many people work in the NHS service, know it has been privatised by the | :34:03. | :34:06. | |
back door, know that the clinical commissioning system is not working | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
and that problems will come back again and again unless he confronts | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
that. Weshlings it would have been a | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
constructive contribution to this morning's debate if he had not | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
started to descend into totally false slurs about this Government's | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
commitment to our NHS. I say to him, if you support the NHS, if you are | :34:30. | :34:32. | |
passionate about it as this Government is, you put the money in | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
- ?5.5 billion more than his party was promising at the last election | :34:38. | :34:41. | |
and you make the difficult reforms necessary to make sure that NHS care | :34:42. | :34:46. | |
is as good or better than anything which can be provided in the private | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
sector. That is what this Government is doing. We believe in our NHS and | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
we are backing it to give it the best care anywhere in the world. I | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
strongly welcome this important statement and the leadership from | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
the Secretary of State and congratulate all those involved in | :35:03. | :35:06. | |
the discussions. On Tuesday, in Eastly, I spoke with a constituent, | :35:07. | :35:12. | |
a junior doctor and new mum married to a senior nurse at my advice | :35:13. | :35:18. | |
surgery. She's unable to fast track into GP working and future care | :35:19. | :35:23. | |
around her four-month-old baby is part of the concerns she has, and | :35:24. | :35:28. | |
around these negotiations and it weighs heavily on this family, | :35:29. | :35:32. | |
particularly around on-call working. Can I ask that agile working and | :35:33. | :35:36. | |
those family first issues are truly taken into account where there are | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
nurses and doctors trying to bring up families together? | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
My honourable friend gives one example. I think there are thousands | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
of examples of people like that who are totally committed to the NHS, | :35:50. | :35:55. | |
have a bright future and can make a huge contribution to the success of | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
the NHS in doing a good job looking after patients, but also have home | :36:01. | :36:03. | |
responsibilities, which are difficult to fulfil when you have | :36:04. | :36:08. | |
very inflexible Ross tering systems. This is one of -- rostering systems. | :36:09. | :36:17. | |
We will look at how it brings in that flexibility. If we don't do | :36:18. | :36:22. | |
that we will see more and more doctors saying they will work to | :36:23. | :36:27. | |
work as locums or want to work for an agency. That is why we have an | :36:28. | :36:33. | |
urgent need from the perspective of patients and doctors to address that | :36:34. | :36:36. | |
issue. I am interested in the Secretary of | :36:37. | :36:40. | |
State's thoughts about the serious impact on morale that this dispute | :36:41. | :36:45. | |
has had. I was talking to a junior doctor in Sheffield this-the-other | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
day who said priority to -- prior to the dispute he did not look at his | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
contract, he simply got on and did whatever was needed. Does the | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
Secretary of State realise even if this is settled there's been a | :37:00. | :37:04. | |
serious impact on goodwill in the health service which could affect | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
service delivery going forward? I would say to him that if he looks at | :37:09. | :37:15. | |
the latest NHS staff survey we actually see higher staff | :37:16. | :37:18. | |
motivation, better communication and more staff recommending their | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
organisation as a place to work or be treated. I also do accept that | :37:22. | :37:29. | |
when you make big changes to a contract like the junior doctor's | :37:30. | :37:35. | |
contract they can be contentious and have an impact on morale. Morale | :37:36. | :37:39. | |
goes up when doctors are able to give better care for patients and | :37:40. | :37:45. | |
this is what this will require. The Secretary of State I think has done | :37:46. | :37:50. | |
a very good job in explaining today. Look, let's look at this, the BMA | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
caused a problem which should have been resolved a long time ago thasmt | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
decided they would make a political point. That is fair enough. | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
Conversely the opposition should have actually been big enough to | :38:04. | :38:06. | |
say, look, we want to cause political trouble on this. A lot of | :38:07. | :38:12. | |
this has been caused by political shenanigans. The failure of this is | :38:13. | :38:17. | |
the junior doctors themselves have lost prestige throughout the UK | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
because they were used by political pawns as two organisations. Well, I | :38:23. | :38:29. | |
think it is a great tragedy that the dispute unfolded in the way it did. | :38:30. | :38:33. | |
I am sure there are people with different agendas who have not | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
played constructive roles at various points. Given we now have an | :38:39. | :38:44. | |
agreement I want to look forward and say the lesson of the last ten days | :38:45. | :38:48. | |
is when you sit down and negotiate about all the outstanding issues | :38:49. | :38:53. | |
with a Government that is trying to make care better and safer for | :38:54. | :38:56. | |
patients then you get a result which is good for everyone. | :38:57. | :39:00. | |
It is not the time to be claiming victory. This negotiated agreement | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
now has to be put to the members of the British Medical Association. | :39:06. | :39:09. | |
Will the Secretary of State acknowledge that his own refusal to | :39:10. | :39:18. | |
negotiate easts a sister baiteded this crisis? Will he heed my | :39:19. | :39:22. | |
honourable friend, the Shadow Secretary's call for a period of | :39:23. | :39:26. | |
silence in order to avoid antagonising the junior doctors | :39:27. | :39:31. | |
still further? Let 's be absolutely clear there was never a refusal to | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
negotiate on the Government's side. You know, we have now, I think, | :39:37. | :39:41. | |
developed a lot of trust between the Government and the BMA leadership. | :39:42. | :39:46. | |
Until that point, they balloted for industrial action without even | :39:47. | :39:48. | |
sitting down and talking to the Government and they refused to | :39:49. | :39:52. | |
discuss the issue of weekend pay premium, which is the crucial change | :39:53. | :39:57. | |
we needed for a seven-day NHS. It is when they changed their position on | :39:58. | :40:00. | |
those areas that we were able to have constructive talks and that is | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
why they deserve great credit for coming to the table and negotiating | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
on things they did not want to previously. | :40:10. | :40:15. | |
I would like to say thank you to the Secretary of State for bringing hard | :40:16. | :40:18. | |
to bring about this resolution and always putting users of the NHS at | :40:19. | :40:23. | |
the heart of everything he does. Will he join me in urging junior | :40:24. | :40:30. | |
doctors to consider it with an open mind and strip out some of the | :40:31. | :40:33. | |
politics we have heard. And let's consider what is best for patients, | :40:34. | :40:38. | |
for the NHS and then what is best for the junior doctors? She speaks | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
very wisely. All I would say is that I understand in a very contentious | :40:44. | :40:49. | |
industrial relations dispute that junior doctors will not necessarily | :40:50. | :40:52. | |
look to me for advice as to which way they should vote, but it wasn't | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
just me doing this agreement, it was a negotiated agreement and the | :40:58. | :41:00. | |
leader of the junior doctors committee said it is a good | :41:01. | :41:04. | |
agreement, he will support people to support it and he thinks it is a | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
good way forward for doctors and patients T people closest to the | :41:10. | :41:12. | |
detail, to the negotiations think it is the right step forward for junior | :41:13. | :41:16. | |
doctors and that is something I want to take account of. Thank you, Mr | :41:17. | :41:24. | |
Speaker. I don't wish to invite the Secretary of State to provoke by | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
presumption. If this changes the shape of services it will have | :41:29. | :41:32. | |
implications for other health professions. Is he prepared to have | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
further conversation that needs to be had there and with counterparts | :41:38. | :41:42. | |
across these nationals to professional education and training? | :41:43. | :41:48. | |
We are of course willing to have those discussions with colleagues in | :41:49. | :41:53. | |
other parts of the UK. But he is right that to have a seven-day | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
service doesn't just involve junior doctors, it involves widespread | :42:00. | :42:03. | |
changes across the service. I would say for nurses, health care | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
assistants, porters, cleaners, others who work in hospitals, they | :42:08. | :42:13. | |
already operate on 24/7 shifts. So the changes necessary to contracts | :42:14. | :42:16. | |
are much less profound than they are to some of the doctors' contracts, | :42:17. | :42:21. | |
which is why it is important that we change not just the junior doctors' | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
contract but the consultants' contracts and the fact we have an | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
agreement bodies well for the consultants' contract, which is the | :42:31. | :42:32. | |
next step. Can I congratulate my honourable | :42:33. | :42:42. | |
friend and all honourable friend the member for switch for his hard work | :42:43. | :42:49. | |
in dealing with the dispute with the BMA. Patients up and down the | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
country, including mine, were somewhat concerned about the | :42:55. | :42:57. | |
cancelled operations but I'm delighted that the deployment will | :42:58. | :43:01. | |
try and make sure this gets caught up with. -- department. One of the | :43:02. | :43:07. | |
things come out of it was that some senior consultants had to end up on | :43:08. | :43:11. | |
the front line for the first time in a long time and can I ask what can | :43:12. | :43:15. | |
be done to make sure this happens on a regular basis so they are getting | :43:16. | :43:18. | |
experience on the front line as well? Think I will dig myself into a | :43:19. | :43:28. | |
deep old answer that directly. I would like to echo his thanks to my | :43:29. | :43:36. | |
honourable friend the member for Ipswich, who has done an outstanding | :43:37. | :43:42. | |
job at every stage throughout this very difficult period and I can | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
certainly say we would not have had yesterday's agreement without his | :43:47. | :43:49. | |
very strong help and support at every stage. I think it's true that | :43:50. | :43:59. | |
there are A departments that have to plan for the withdrawal of | :44:00. | :44:02. | |
emergency care and they found that having consultants more visible to | :44:03. | :44:08. | |
patients had some positive impact and I know studies are going on to | :44:09. | :44:11. | |
see what lessons can be learned going forward. I too welcome the | :44:12. | :44:18. | |
opportunity for a negotiated settlement, but let us take a moment | :44:19. | :44:24. | |
to reflect on one of the fundamental principles of the NHS about | :44:25. | :44:29. | |
providing high quality patient care, and to that end, Woody section of | :44:30. | :44:33. | |
state figures opportunity to offer our heartfelt and sincere apology | :44:34. | :44:37. | |
for the significant and severe distress that has been caused to | :44:38. | :44:41. | |
patients as a result of this prolonged dispute? With the gift | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
greatest of respect it was not my decision to take industrial action, | :44:48. | :44:53. | |
to ballot without him in being prepared to sit around the table and | :44:54. | :44:57. | |
talk to the Government, and with respect to patient safety we seemed | :44:58. | :45:01. | |
about improvements in beige and safety under this Government as we | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
face up to the many problems in care that we inherited, not just miss | :45:06. | :45:13. | |
staffs and many other places that option should welcome the changes | :45:14. | :45:16. | |
we've made in one of those it have a seven-day NHS. Like many colleagues | :45:17. | :45:24. | |
in the house, wrote visit to stick on numerous occasions over the last | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
six months to express concerns of local junior doctors so, | :45:30. | :45:31. | |
congratulate him on reaching this and I hope the new doctors in | :45:32. | :45:35. | |
Wimbledon will wholeheartedly support this deal. Can I say we | :45:36. | :45:38. | |
spoken about the Guardian and the ability of it and its role to | :45:39. | :45:43. | |
safeguard and have safe working hours per patients and doctors. Can | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
have more details about how that should work? I'm happy to do that | :45:49. | :45:51. | |
and I thank him for his correspondence. The principle is | :45:52. | :45:56. | |
that junior doctors want to know that there is someone independent | :45:57. | :46:00. | |
that they can appeal to the think they are being asked to work hours | :46:01. | :46:05. | |
that are unsafe the spin they cannot work -- after patients how they | :46:06. | :46:08. | |
wanted because they're physically or mentally too exhausted. That is | :46:09. | :46:13. | |
something we would all want to make possible but it means they need to | :46:14. | :46:19. | |
have someone who is the -- is not their line manager, someone | :46:20. | :46:22. | |
independent and separate. One of the areas we made the most progress in | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
the last few months, even before the last ten days, is establishing how | :46:28. | :46:32. | |
these guardians can work in a way that has the of the hospitals the | :46:33. | :46:39. | |
doctors working there. The section of state is right when he says you | :46:40. | :46:43. | |
always get further if you get around the table. I ask him why in response | :46:44. | :46:48. | |
to the cross-party initiative back in February to get everyone around | :46:49. | :46:52. | |
the table didn't he do that and save us all this trouble rather than | :46:53. | :46:57. | |
finding both the contract? The cross-party initiative was in for a | :46:58. | :47:00. | |
new contract, it was to abandon plans for a new contract and just | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
have pilots in a few limited places and if we had followed that advice | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
we would not now today had the biggest changes in junior doctor | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
contracts for 17 years agreed with the BMA, and that was why the call | :47:15. | :47:19. | |
we wanted was to get the agreement yesterday, safer carefully NHS and | :47:20. | :47:24. | |
better deals for doctors. That is what we got and we wouldn't have if | :47:25. | :47:32. | |
we listen to that advice? Can I join in the welcome for the agreement and | :47:33. | :47:37. | |
the persistent and patients that eventually paid off. In previous | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
statements I've raised with the sexual state this problem of married | :47:42. | :47:48. | |
couples, both of whom are doctors, -- secretary of state. If they have | :47:49. | :47:52. | |
roasters that clash, can he say a word about the progress made in this | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
important area of making work more family friendly. I'm happy to do | :47:57. | :48:08. | |
that. Is not easy dissolved because junior doctor at training places | :48:09. | :48:12. | |
operate on six-month locations and are competitive. You get many more | :48:13. | :48:20. | |
up applicants than there are posts available, so we have to find a way | :48:21. | :48:25. | |
of balancing the need to respect family responsibility, something we | :48:26. | :48:27. | |
would all want to do, with the need to have a fair process for the most | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
competitive positions. I think we have not got the balance right to | :48:32. | :48:39. | |
date, so we said cells Dott health education and where we decide people | :48:40. | :48:41. | |
will go on rotation will have a duty to consider family response but is | :48:42. | :48:45. | |
when they make decisions about those locations. I welcome the potential | :48:46. | :48:55. | |
resolution, thank the Government for negotiation at the doctors having | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
the courage to go on strike, which no one does likely to get a better | :49:00. | :49:03. | |
deal for the NHS. I would ask the secretary of state to reflect on | :49:04. | :49:08. | |
this and take further steps to build on his difficult relationship with | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
NHS staff and stop resenting NHS policy and false dichotomy between | :49:14. | :49:15. | |
the interests of patients and interests of NHS staff. If he had | :49:16. | :49:23. | |
listened to what I said, for we said Beasley I don't think that the cost | :49:24. | :49:26. | |
me exists, the false dichotomy as he says in the end what is right for | :49:27. | :49:32. | |
patients is also right doctors, the thing that demoralises doctors and | :49:33. | :49:36. | |
nurses and everyone working in hospitals and different part of the | :49:37. | :49:39. | |
Ayrshires is when they are not able to give the care they want what they | :49:40. | :49:44. | |
think is appropriate to the patients in front of them, which is why we | :49:45. | :49:49. | |
see hospitals that have moved closes towards a seven-day services are | :49:50. | :49:51. | |
also some of hospitals with the highest levels of morale in the NHS. | :49:52. | :49:56. | |
He is right, it's not a false dichotomy and we need to do both | :49:57. | :50:02. | |
together. As the sexual note, my brother and his wife were junior | :50:03. | :50:05. | |
doctors when they made the decision to move over to New Zealand a long | :50:06. | :50:10. | |
while ago. That was because of the long-standing cultural problems in | :50:11. | :50:13. | |
the NHS. They will be pleased indeed about the announcement yesterday | :50:14. | :50:20. | |
around the couples being able to work together in hospitals | :50:21. | :50:23. | |
potentially. I have a question for my mother and it relates around what | :50:24. | :50:30. | |
can you do now in order to encourage them and their friends back into the | :50:31. | :50:39. | |
NHS? Let me say to your mother that I hope the message of this new | :50:40. | :50:45. | |
agreement will go brightly way around the world and any doctors who | :50:46. | :50:51. | |
have moved to New Zealand or Australia are always welcome to come | :50:52. | :50:54. | |
back, and I think the thing that must unite this Government and the | :50:55. | :51:01. | |
good doctors who work in the NHS is our commitment to making NHS care | :51:02. | :51:04. | |
the safest and best in the world, and I think we had a terrible shock | :51:05. | :51:09. | |
with what happened at mid-staffs, but we're using it as an moment of | :51:10. | :51:14. | |
change, decisive change, NHS and were on the way to higher standards | :51:15. | :51:17. | |
of care that are available in many other countries. Mother Howlett is | :51:18. | :51:23. | |
satisfied, or idea we shall hear about it. -- or IDSA. | :51:24. | :51:29. | |
Congratulations Government and everyone on getting this in place, | :51:30. | :51:35. | |
it will have a knock-on effect in Northern Ireland into my | :51:36. | :51:38. | |
constituency, when I went around Antrim area hospitals their concerns | :51:39. | :51:42. | |
the number of doctors and how you get a seven day a week cover from | :51:43. | :51:48. | |
everything else that needs to go on in the health service, which, and | :51:49. | :51:51. | |
how we will deal with that and we will work with parliaments? I do | :51:52. | :51:58. | |
agree, we need more doctors and more nurses and by the end of this | :51:59. | :52:01. | |
parliament will have 1 million more over 70s in England alone and I know | :52:02. | :52:05. | |
the demographic effect in Northern Ireland will be equivalent. Globally | :52:06. | :52:09. | |
we have a shortage of about 7 million doctors, so we need to train | :52:10. | :52:16. | |
more. We are training an extra 11,420 doctors over this parliament | :52:17. | :52:20. | |
as part of the spending review. Because the training is done on the | :52:21. | :52:23. | |
UK wide basis it is something we will need to work closely with all | :52:24. | :52:29. | |
of the devolved regions. I warmly welcome this draft agreement and it | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
will be met with some relief in Cheltenham. Whatever article the | :52:34. | :52:36. | |
health concerns about the behaviour of the BMA in the past, does the | :52:37. | :52:40. | |
Secretary of State agree it should be an admission that this should be | :52:41. | :52:43. | |
part of the beginning of a more constructive future and will you | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
join me in congratulating the BMA negotiations for being able to | :52:49. | :52:51. | |
address constructively issues like Saturday pay. I'm happy to do that, | :52:52. | :52:58. | |
and I recognised it was not easy for them because they are still | :52:59. | :53:01. | |
involving changing the position that had for over three years. The result | :53:02. | :53:07. | |
we got to admit that at the details was actually something that was not | :53:08. | :53:10. | |
difficult for them to sign up to because they could see it really was | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
better for their members as well as better for patients. I think the | :53:15. | :53:18. | |
lesson is that the NHS faces huge challenges and can only be right to | :53:19. | :53:21. | |
deal with these challenges by sitting around the table as | :53:22. | :53:27. | |
negotiating constructively. I also warmly welcomed the news of the | :53:28. | :53:31. | |
agreement and I hope it feeds into a settlement. Can I ask the Secretary | :53:32. | :53:37. | |
of State if it is his intention to create a seven-day NHS, that will | :53:38. | :53:41. | |
require the participation of more than just the junior doctors, will | :53:42. | :53:45. | |
he bring forward a new contract for consultants? Or will he bring | :53:46. | :53:49. | |
forward a new contract for hospital lab walkers or Amazon 's workers or | :53:50. | :53:57. | |
nurses or indeed for catering staff? He is right. A seven-day NHS is not | :53:58. | :54:03. | |
just or even mainly about junior doctors, their important part of the | :54:04. | :54:07. | |
equation but we will need a new contract for consultants and we are | :54:08. | :54:10. | |
having constructive negotiations with consultant about that. For | :54:11. | :54:15. | |
other people working in the NHS, many are already or seven-day | :54:16. | :54:21. | |
contract, so he is right to say that we are going to have to have | :54:22. | :54:26. | |
diagnostic services operating across seven days so junior doctor working | :54:27. | :54:30. | |
at the weekend will be up to get the result back for a diagnostic test | :54:31. | :54:33. | |
the weekend and those are all part of the changes that we will make to | :54:34. | :54:41. | |
make and it is safer for patients. Can I warmly congratulate both sides | :54:42. | :54:45. | |
on reaching this agreement. Our NHS is different at weekends and my | :54:46. | :54:53. | |
honourable friend is right to bring in the four key clinical standards | :54:54. | :54:58. | |
on Sunday and Saturday. Would he agree it's important not simply to | :54:59. | :55:03. | |
rely on mortality data, which are often difficult to interpret in | :55:04. | :55:06. | |
underpinning the case for the seven-day NHS and will he look | :55:07. | :55:09. | |
closely at other metrics based on clinical standards around things | :55:10. | :55:13. | |
like endoscopy and routine lists on Saturday and Sunday and periods of | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
care particularly, which does not feature in any hospital mortality | :55:20. | :55:27. | |
data? He speaks very wisely on medical matters and I particularly | :55:28. | :55:30. | |
agree when he speaks about palette of care, which has got better, but | :55:31. | :55:36. | |
nonetheless there is a long way to go and we had recent evidence that | :55:37. | :55:39. | |
it is particularly in need of improvement where we are not able to | :55:40. | :55:47. | |
offer a seven-day part of support. I welcome this settlement and thank | :55:48. | :55:53. | |
everyone involved for securing it. Many junior doctors remained | :55:54. | :55:57. | |
concerned that as you increase the hours worked over a weekend you | :55:58. | :56:04. | |
inevitably produce cover during the week -- Regis cover unless you buy | :56:05. | :56:07. | |
more junior doctors to bridge that gap. With many rotors of ready on | :56:08. | :56:13. | |
filter does not until around the country during the week how can he | :56:14. | :56:16. | |
guarantee we will not make the situation worse during the week, | :56:17. | :56:23. | |
thereby impacting on patient safety? I understand the concern and the | :56:24. | :56:27. | |
short answer is that we need to increase the NHS workforce, which we | :56:28. | :56:30. | |
are doing and we will see more doctors going into training during | :56:31. | :56:33. | |
the course of this parliament, as were somewhat doctors going into | :56:34. | :56:36. | |
training over the course of the last Parliament. More doctors in the | :56:37. | :56:40. | |
workforce will be an important part of the solution. At the start of the | :56:41. | :56:48. | |
recent negotiations appears that the payment for Saturday working was the | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
main sticking point from the BMA but it appears from this negotiation now | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
that the issue of weekend pay has been resolved, can my honourable | :56:58. | :57:02. | |
friend confirmed that the position now is that this can lead for the | :57:03. | :57:07. | |
doctors that are working extended hours for the weekend will get extra | :57:08. | :57:11. | |
pay and patients can see a seven-day week NHS, which we all want to see? | :57:12. | :57:19. | |
It is much fairer for doctors than the current system. We are giving a | :57:20. | :57:26. | |
pay rise of between 10-11%, for which we are saying people are | :57:27. | :57:30. | |
expected to work one weekend day a month. The doctors who work more | :57:31. | :57:37. | |
than that get more and it goes up T more weekends you work the more | :57:38. | :57:40. | |
extra pay you get. That is one of the reasons the BMA was prepared to | :57:41. | :57:45. | |
sign up to this agree. It does value the people who give up the most | :57:46. | :57:50. | |
weekends. I was contacted by a constituent, | :57:51. | :57:55. | |
who told me how his four-year-old daughter fell through a pane of | :57:56. | :58:01. | |
glass, severely cutting her face. Unfortunate natly this accident -- | :58:02. | :58:06. | |
unfortunately this accident had on a Friday evening because there were | :58:07. | :58:10. | |
insufficient doctors working she could not have on operation until | :58:11. | :58:16. | |
the Monday. That four-year-old girl will now suffer severe facing | :58:17. | :58:20. | |
scarring for the rest of her life. Does my friend agree with me, that | :58:21. | :58:25. | |
is the republic why we need a seven-day NHS. I couldn't have put | :58:26. | :58:29. | |
it better myself. Those are the stories we hear from our | :58:30. | :58:32. | |
constituents, from our families. That is why yesterday was an | :58:33. | :58:37. | |
important step forward in terms of that seven-day agenda. I must | :58:38. | :58:42. | |
confess to being puzzled because the BMA have said all along this strike | :58:43. | :58:46. | |
and dispute was nothing to do with weekend pay and terms. Yet, after | :58:47. | :58:51. | |
discussions, negotiations which were limited simply to weekend pay and | :58:52. | :58:57. | |
terms, the BMA have now come to a deal and advised against strike | :58:58. | :59:02. | |
action. Can we take it despite much huffing and puffing this was about | :59:03. | :59:05. | |
the future of the NHS and the rest of it, at the end of the day it was | :59:06. | :59:11. | |
all about weekend pay and terms? I think he is right that was the big | :59:12. | :59:16. | |
sticking point and their willingness to be flexible and the goshiate on | :59:17. | :59:22. | |
that which made -- and negotiate on that which made it possible. There | :59:23. | :59:27. | |
are many other noncontractual issues in the way that doctors are trained | :59:28. | :59:31. | |
and treated by the NHS. We want to use this as an opportunity to put | :59:32. | :59:38. | |
that right. Can I congratulate on the Secretary of State op putting | :59:39. | :59:43. | |
patients first. Those people who had their operations cancelled during | :59:44. | :59:55. | |
industrial action. Looking at people on the back-burner or poss pope | :59:56. | :00:01. | |
their medical -- or postpone their medical care? That is a view some | :00:02. | :00:07. | |
share. Doctors have obligations now under the Medical Act not to take | :00:08. | :00:13. | |
action which would harm patients and under their responsibilities to the | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
General Medical Council. They have to be aware of those. What I hope is | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
that question does not arise again, we are having constructive | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
discussions with the BMA. It is the way forward and I hope that neither | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
myself or any future Health Secretary has to go through what we | :00:30. | :00:36. | |
have during the last ten months. I explored the tone and content of the | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
remarks today. It will go down as a break through in the NHS. It has | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
been very uncomfortable to have dialogue with constituents who are | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
junior doctors who have felt aggrieved. So, I have particularly | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
welcomed the way he's been able to look at noncontractual issues. I | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
would urge him to look very strongly at the issue of -- the outcome of | :00:56. | :01:02. | |
the Bailey review so he can move forward on morale and the wider | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
issues which have been raised. Well, I just finish by saying I | :01:07. | :01:14. | |
complete aagree with him. It's been a very sad dispute. We recognise | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
that junior doctors are the back bone of the NHS. They work very | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
hard. They often work the most weekends already. I think it is | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
therefore a brilliant step forward that we have an agreement. But the | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
constituents that he talks about and that we all have who work hard for | :01:31. | :01:34. | |
the NHS are the people we want to value. Therefore, dialogue, | :01:35. | :01:41. | |
constructive discussion must be the way | :01:42. | :01:43. |