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Order, order, questions to the Secretary of State for Wales.

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Question number one, Mr Speaker. This government's rail policy is

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historic and more benefit Wales. We at electrifying the main line all

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the way to Swansea and we are developing the rail line through ?43

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million of investment and modernisation. I'd like to thank the

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Minister for that response. The Department of Transport seems to be

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making very little progress on the electrification so can I suggest

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that his minister get together with his colleagues, and I'll come along

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myself, to get a full engineering survey to find out what the costs

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are, what the timescale will be of the electrification process. I

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understand the importance of the North Wales rail mainline for his

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constituency. We are engaged in a ?43 million process of modernisation

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but I'd highlight the fact that the vast improvements in services

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between Chester and Houston, benefiting North Wales, has already

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happened. I would thoroughly welcome the opportunity to discuss this

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further with the noble member as part of our strategy of the North

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Wales growth deal. What the Minister join me in welcoming the recent

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decision by the office of rail and road to permit regular direct rail

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services from Chester to Manchester Airport? Would he agree with me that

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journey times remain to lengthy. With that in mind, will he encourage

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Network Rail to increase speed and work, in replacing the light switch

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of Victorian? My honourable friend has touched upon a crucial point and

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that pay tribute to his works and he came into this house. I remember his

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first debate where he talked about the importance of the North Wales

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rail line, and he's right in highlighting the fantastic

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investment from Reeva trains which will see a crippling of services

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from London know to Manchester Airport. This is a development most

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welcome for the people of Wales. We need to modernise the signalling

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system which is why we have this ?43 million investment. It is

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interesting to note he did not preclude the decision by a Reeva

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trains to increase their services dramatically. When the Secretary of

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State was serving as the Parliamentary undersecretary, he met

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with my predecessor to discuss a level crossing which causes a

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significant amount of chaos in my constituency. Would he agree to meet

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with me and the constituents to carry on those positive discussions

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about improving the crossing? Can I first of all welcome the honourable

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gentleman to his place and can I say that I'm aware the Wales office has

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been working with local governments in relation to that issue. I'd be

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delighted to meet the honourable member. My first by-election was

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there, it was a very wet by-election and I'd be delighted to meet the

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residents of that town again. There is great momentum both in North

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Wales and north-west England to improve transport links. This is a

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time for the Welsh government and the UK government to work together

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to improve those links. Can we therefore have canned because the

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?43 million the honourable gentleman referred to was actually investment

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by the Welsh government so will the UK government step up to the plate

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and invest a penny piece in infrastructure in North Wales

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because that would be very welcome. I think it is important and

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imperative we work together, Welsh governments, local government and UK

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government, in developing transport links which is why we have opened

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the door for the North Wales growth deal where we are working in

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partnership with the North Wales ambition board and others. The

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honourable member is right in saying an effective change will depend on

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Corporation between Westminster and the Welsh government. The new Welsh

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government is ready. Cross-party and cross-border. Members of Parliament

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and local authorities are ready. Most important of the lot, we in

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North Wales are ready. Can we have a commitment for proper

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electrification is in top with a growth deal that is worth the name?

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It is imperative we look very carefully at the best value for

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money we can have in terms of investment in our transport

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infrastructure. I accept there is a need to work together but I'd also

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highlight the fact the CBI and the Federation of small businesses have

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called upon more action on the Welsh government. There has been ?200

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million allocated for the a 55 and, yet, we are to seek any action. We

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need to work together and finger-pointing doesn't work in that

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respect. Question number two, Mr Speaker. With your permission, can I

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pay particular tribute to my predecessor, the current Secretary

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of State at the Department for Work and Pensions for all the work you

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did when he was Secretary of State in all matters support in Wales,

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particularly relating to the steel industry. I would say we are doing

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everything we can to support the sale of Tata Steel UK including

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offering support to potential buyers with hundreds of millions of pounds.

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Our discussions with buyers and the Welsh government and the unions

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continue and we stand ready to negotiate with the preferred edit to

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ensure the future of still making across Wales and the UK. I thank the

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Secretary of State for his response. As we know critical meetings are

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taking place in Mumbai later today. The future of the industry hanging

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in the balance. What measures has the Secretary of State taken, and

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his colleagues in the Cabinet, to ensure that a viable and sustainable

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pension scheme will be developed as a result of the sale of the

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business? Can hear sure the house that will be something that will be

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sustainable for the 130,000 members of the scheme? Mr Speaker, I've

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already spoken to the Secretary of State for business since his

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meetings with Tata Steel in Mumbai. Pensions is one of those issues

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under consideration and he will be aware this was highlighted by my

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right honourable friend at the outset, that pensions, plant and

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power were three issues. Pensions is a complex issue, it crosses a number

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of government departments. The sale of steelworks is at a critical

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stage. It is crucial to the survival of the plant that both governments

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act with purpose to support a successful buyer for the plant. With

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a new Welsh government, has my honourable friend discussed away

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forward to ensure this is the case? I thank my honourable friend and can

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I pay tribute for the work is doing? His constituency has a number of

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steelworkers that reside there and for the responsible way he is press

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the issue that are fundamental to the success of the successful steel

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sale. I'll save in relation to the Welsh government that I met the

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first minister earlier this week and we agreed this is our priority and

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we are continuing in close dialogue to work closely together to ensure

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that sale. The European Parliament has voted against giving China

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market economy status. All he presses colleagues to agreed to hire

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Arabs on Chinese steel? Well, I look forward to meeting the unions that

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are marching through Westminster later today, as well as the

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honourable member. We are determined to work with the unions and Tata but

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market economy status for China is separate to the capacity for the

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European commission to introduce tariffs. Where they've been

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introduced, they work. There are 37 trade defence measures imposed at

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the moment, wire rod imported down to 99%, and I could highlight a

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range of other speciality steels so let's not confuse the two. Market

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economy status and the capacity to introduce these measures. Steel was

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a significant element in Wales' ?5 billion worth of exports to the EU

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in 2015. That is a third of the whole of the Welsh government's

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total budget. Will he make the positive case for the advantages of

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the profitability in remaining in the EU? The honourable member is

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right. 69% of still produced in the UK is exported to the European

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Union. Access to that single European market is fundamental for

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the steel industry and also fundamental to attracting the buyer.

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This was the point I was saying. The steel produced at Port Talbot is

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transported to Corby and used to produce steel tubes so what steps

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are ministers taking to make the case that it is vital to keep that

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supply chain together as one? Can I pay tribute to my honourable friend

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in the way he is representing the interests of his constituents? He

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recognises the interdependency all of these plants, such as the site in

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Corby, and Port Talbot and others in the UK. We are talking to suppliers

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on a regular basis because we need to maintain confidence that they

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will be able to continue buying steel. That is in the interest of

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workers and the economy. Is he inspired by the minor miracle that

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has taken place in Newport where the enterprising workforce have bought

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the dead Alpha steel company back to productive life? Isn't this spirit

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of entrepreneurship am a corporation by the workforce, hope and

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confidence is the way to stage a renaissance of the interpreters to

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industry? The honourable member is right in

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the interest of Celebrities feel demonstrates the diameters in the

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industry. They have reopened the plant to close some time ago and

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they see it as the future and British steel-making and I hope we

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will continue to use that momentum to secure a deal for the whole of

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the Tata operations in the UK. Given the secretary of state's previous

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answer on the effectiveness of palates why does the UK Government

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keep being at the head of a blocking minority? -- paddocks. Is it not the

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case the Government has not done enough to save the British steel

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industry? The honourable member is confusing the impact of the lesser

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duty rule. That relates to the framework and there are currently 30

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73 defensive measures in place and with the EU Commission has acted

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they at a significant effect. I could highlight a whole range of

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speciality steels where the tariffs are working within the duty rule.

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There would be an impact on other manufacturers and we must work

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within the rule because it operates effectively. Question three, Mr

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Speaker. " The two begin a truly accountable, the Welsh Government

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must take responsibility for raising more of the money it spends and that

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is why as part of the wheels Bill we will devolve income tax powers to

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the Welsh Assembly. I look forward to working alongside the Welsh

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Government to implement these powers. I got my right honourable

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friend would agree that while the Welsh Government are profligate in

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many ways the railway line expansion will be helpful to the entire

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economy and all citizens who realised investment in transport is

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the because to economic prosperity. My honourable friend is right. There

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are several examples of how the comedy strange priorities of the

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Welsh Assembly Government 's. Investment and railways as a

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priority highlighted by the electrification of the line which

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will provide greater opportunities for real trouble such as the upgrade

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of the Valley lines which concern provides a knock-on effect of rural

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communities. Air passenger duty has already been devolved to the

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Northern Ireland Assembly and shortly will be devolved to the

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Scottish Parliament is what the budget did not propose it be

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devolved to the Welsh Assembly. We'll be secretary of state support

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this and if not, why not? I say to the honourable lady that rates of

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taxation, including air passenger duty, is a matter for the

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Chancellor. He always keeps levels of taxes under review and she will

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be well aware that the Treasury are looking at this matter and will

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report in due course. If you years ago and Boston, Massachusetts if you

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are revolutionaries said no taxation without representation. Does he

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agree with me it is very important the Welsh Assembly to take advantage

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of the Welsh bill and do imply and do have their own income tax? I am

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grateful to my honourable friend and the continued interest he shows them

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on wheels. I want the Welsh Assembly to be a mature legislator taking

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more responsibility for the money it spends by raising money itself. Its

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will become truly accountable to the people of Wales Mac and it will have

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to look differently at the spending priorities and commitments. Number

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four. Small businesses are leading the economic recovery in Wales and

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are now 30,000 more employing 65,000 more people than in 2010. Watch them

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accounting for more than 90% of all businesses and Wales the UK

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Government recognises the important contribution to the growth of the

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Welsh economy. He will also be aware of the Chancellor's recent budget

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announcement to either reduce greatly or remove completely

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business rates for the smallest businesses has gone down very well

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and bulges advantages. Can he tell the house what steps is he taking to

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make sure businesses in Wales will also benefit? He is perfectly bright

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and highly in the way in which the announcement was welcomed across

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small businesses in England and the Welsh office is calling to replicate

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these steps to ensure small towns and cities and their businesses

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benefit in the same way from the changes are being implemented in

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England. The Welsh Government has done well and attracting investment

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but in terms of business confidence, Devon at the Brexit, what will the

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Government do to shore up certainties about the real life

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electrification and supporting Swansea as the city in terms of city

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deals? The honourable gentleman should be aware the Welsh office is

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working closely with the Treasury to develop a Swansea City Deal.

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Electrification of the main line to Swansea as part of that and also a

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review to look at the viability to ensure it offers value for

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taxpayers. 242,000 jobs are directly or indirectly dependent on a

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successful tourist industry. Can I invite the Minister to concede one

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of the ways we can boost those businesses is a reduction in VAT on

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hospitality and tourism or raising the threshold in which those small

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businesses should pay VAT? The honourable member is a champion for

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this issue and has been ever since I have been in this place. I share his

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view of the tourism industry in Wales. It is a success story. The

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tourism industry in my constituency and his constituency is doing very

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well at this point in time, regardless of changes to VAT. Mr

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Speaker, as the minister well knows, many of our small businesses and

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Wales are dependent on the steel industry and they will be anxiously

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awaiting the outcome of the meeting in Mumbai today. The terms of the

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package his Government proposes will be crucial to any potential deal.

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Can he come from his Government will do everything it takes to secure a

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successful future for steel industry? She is absolutely right

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and highlighting the importance of the steel industry, not just direct

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employment but also supply chains. I can assure the honourable lady that

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this office and UK Government are doing everything in our powers to

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ensure the steel industry and the skilled supply chain is protected in

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the future. Many of our small businesses will also be concerned

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about the EU referendum. Not least those in the Welsh agricultural

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sector which received some ?350 million a year from the Common

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agricultural policy. The Wales Office Minister previously confront

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in the event of a Brexit vote there is no certainty the Government would

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replace these funds. Does the Minister agree it is in the very

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best interests of Welsh farming and the broader Welsh economy we should

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remain in the EU? The honourable lady is right to highlight the

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importance of the agricultural industry for Wales. Around 60,000

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people are directly employed in the sector. I thoroughly subscribe to

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the viewpoints at the Welsh agricultural sector will be

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protected if we vote to remain in the EU. Number five, Mr Speaker.

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The labour market in Wales is going from strength to strength. The

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figures last week delivered a hat-trick of good news for the bulge

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economy. Employment is at a record high, unemployment at the lowest

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level since 2008 and the number of people in the claimant count

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continues to fall. I thank the Minister. Use these voters not sure

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that the Government welfare reforms are working in Wales and helping

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employment for ordinary people. -- do these measures not sure? I was

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recently visiting Cardiff with the Minister for employment and what was

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inspiring was the way the team at the Cardiff job centre highlighted

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the way in which Universal Credit and the flexibility offered by its

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is encouraging people back to work. The Minister will have seen this

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week's Treasury assessment of the impact of withdrawal from the EU.

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Could you give us his view of what the impact would be of that

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assessment on the Welsh economy? The honourable gentleman, right

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honourable gentlemen is aware of my position on this. I passionately

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believe the Welsh economy is stronger as part of the EU. Whether

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manufacturing, agricultural industry or small businesses, the stability

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and certainty of being part of the EU is good for Wales and good for

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small business in Wales. The unemployment levels and tired of are

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at a record low at 1.7%. Does the Minister agree with me to support

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this trend is the new Welsh Government must deliver on

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infrastructure promises such as the M4 relief road and other projects

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this Government has given hundreds of millions of pounds towards? My

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honourable friend has been a champion for Cardiff since he was

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elected. The ?500 million contribution for the UK Government

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to the City Deal in Cardiff will be essential for employment growth and

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the continued success of Cardiff but we must keep up the pressure. The

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questions over the relief road on a barrier to growth and the honourable

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member is right to raise concerns over these delays. Order. A great

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many people in Wales will be attending to these proceedings and

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they must inform the house that today we are visited by the eminent

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figure Connaught Charles Bowden from Rangoon and Burma and we want to

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impress them, not only was the quality of our interrogation but

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with the decency of our behaviour. A little less noise would be helpful.

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Number six. I was delighted to visit S4C last week to see the

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developments at the channel for the launch of the HD service in time for

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the EU -- European Championships and we wish Chris Coleman and the boys

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well. What assurances can he get the UK Government's review into S4C will

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not be compromised as it will be conducted after the BBC Charter

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review us and he can from all options will be on the table

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including securing an independent financial stream for S4C funded from

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public service broadcasting and direct Government support? I'm

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grateful to the honourable member for the question. He will recognise

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a fundamental principle is operational and editorial

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independence. The BBC White Paper offers protection and support for

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S4C but there is a ongoing review which will look at all these matters

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such as governance, and finance to secure a long-term future for the

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channel. Order. Mr Glen Davis. S4C is crucially important to Wales and

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in particular to the Welsh language. Does my honourable friend for the

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secretary of state agree that the Welsh language is too often seen as

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a secondary line which in Wales. It is not, it is at least equal first.

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I am grateful to the honourable member for his question. This

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Government has a strong record in supporting S4C but the Conservative

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Government has a strong record in establishing S4C, in establishing

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the Welsh language Act concerning around the decline we saw previously

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in the Welsh language so we should be proud about our heritage and

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language. It through Conservative policy. Number eight, Mr Speaker.

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With your permission, Mr Speaker, I will answer questions at seven and

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eight together. At the regular European Council of the Government

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negotiated new settlements giving you did the special status in a

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reform EU. As I said in my speech in Swansea last week I believe Wales

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and the UK will be stronger, safer and better off remaining in a

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reformed EU. Seven and nine, for the avoidance of doubt. 80% of Welsh

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farmers depend on, agricultural payments from the EU. The vast

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majority export their goods to the EU. Given Wales receives ?245

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million more from the EU that it puts on what assurances can the

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Secretary of State give the loss to these farmers will be plugged by the

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UK Government in the event of a Brexit? The Welsh economy is showing

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some spectacular employment figures currently with more people in work

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than ever before. The claimant count falling and employment rate well

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below that of the UK average. That economic success is based on a

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stable economic policy and all of the independent forecasts show there

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will be a negative impact should we leave the single European market. EU

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programmes such as a Rasmus bring enormous benefits to young people

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and Wales, broaden experience and strengthening employability. Does

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the Minister agree ensuring work benefits and continue to benefit

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from such programmes are just one of many good reasons to vote Remain? I

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would like to advise the house and the honourable member the new

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Rasmussen programme was developed by Port Talbot man some years ago and

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has provided fantastic opportunities to students across Europe to share

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best practice and broaden their knowledge. -- Erassmus. The European

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investment back has also invested hugely in higher education and the

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new Swansea University campus is benefit but it perform at their best

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vacation. The Minister will surely have seen the report from Cardiff

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University yesterday showing Britain pays nearly ?10 billion a year to be

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part of the EU. If we took that money under the Barnett formula does

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he agree that money could be half a million -- half ?1 billion better

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off if we bought leave? That a vote to leave. My honourable friend is

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failing to recognise the impact of all of the independent forecasts,

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the IMF, the OECD, the governor of the back of England who talks about

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the negative effect on Brexit on the Welsh economy. Cost 24,000 jobs.

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That is a step we cannot afford to take. Is it the case that Wales

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Office special advisers had a meeting with representatives of the

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Burton stronger in Europe campaign and if so what did they discuss? --

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Britain stronger in Europe. We discussed a range of issues

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affecting the world economy and the Brexit will do so in a negative way,

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?2 million cost of the Welsh economy, 24,000 jobs. We are seeing

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some spectacular employment data currently but that is based on

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strong economic conditions and access to 500 million customers

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across Europe. Given Wales is already underfunded by the Barnett

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formula what a detailed guarantees can be secretary of state give to

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the 245 million will actually reach Wales? I don't recognise the basis

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of the question. The honourable lady forgets the historical funding for

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but my right honourable friend the Chancellor introduced which

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demonstrates the strength and commitment this Government is

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showing to Wales. Will the secretary of state join me in welcoming the

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fights that Toyota have made it clear that they will continue to

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manufacture in the United Kingdom, including at their plant in Wales

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regardless of the fact as to whether the British people vote to leave the

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EU on the 23rd of June. I will certainly recognise the comments

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that are made by Toyota because they specifically said, "British

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membership of the EU is the best for our operators and the long-term

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competitiveness." It is not only to water, there are 150 component

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industries in the automotive sector that they bent on companies like

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Toyota, Ford who want us to the main part of the single EU market.

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Questions to THE SPEAKER: There's a process to

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follow. Wait his turn! Thank you very much, Mr Speaker, as always.

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The Prime Minister's attending the G7 in Japan. I've been asked to

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reply on his MAFF. This morning I'd meetings in ministerial colleagues.

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