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7pm. Johnny for a round-up -- join me at 11pm. First we have questions

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to be Secretary of State for Northern Ireland James Brokenshire.

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Thanks, Mr Speaker. Yesterday I laid the tenth biannual statement about

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Northern Ireland. The terrorist threat level is unchanged at severe

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meaning an attack is likely. The need for vigilance remains and I pay

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tribute to the brave men and women who work tirelessly to keep

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communities safe. Apologies, Mr Speaker, aged have

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been question number two. Can I thank the Minister for meeting with

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me recently, when I told them about my constituent? I understand he is

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unable to discuss this individual case, but does he agree that any

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security review must take account of cases such as this?

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I am grateful to my honourable friend that I know that she has met

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my honourable friend the parliamentary undersecretary to

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discuss this issue. This individual case is clearly the operational

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response of the police, as my honourable friend understands, but I

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agree we must find a better way to investigate legacy cases. The

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requirement for the investigation of the past puts pressure on the

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ability to police the present, and that is why I remain committed to

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removing ahead with the Stormont house legacy bodies I believe will

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provide a more proportionate response to the getting to those

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issues. The Secretary of State will be aware

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of the recent footage that has emerged of dissident republicans

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heavily armed, carrying rocket launchers in a part of north

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Belfast, near where Michael McGibbon was murdered recently, a scandalous

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and appalling display. With the secretary agreed that the police

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have been very quick to arrest people and charge them over minor

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breaches of legislation and they need to get a grip on this kind of

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display? They need to arrest people and pursue them because the people

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within these communities absolutely do not want these displays of

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paramilitary activity. I agree with the sentiments of the

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honourable gentleman. This video is utterly repugnant. But I would point

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to some of the things I have said in my statement yesterday, that the

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support for dissident groups like this remains limited, despite their

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attempts to seek legitimacy in wider society, which continues to reject

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their use of violence. I think this contemptible video is... It was

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intended to be a show of strength. I see it as a sign of weakness and it

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is important that the PSNI continue investigations.

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The Secretary of State will commend the widow of Michael McGibbon who

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has spoken bravely against these people and been forced out of her

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home, unfortunately? Her words are a ringing endorsement of the peace

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process in Northern Ireland. While tackling these dissidents, the

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cross-border task force, the Fresh Start initiative, could the

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secretary update us of the work that group and others like it have been

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doing to tackle dissidents and criminals?

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In the honourable gentleman is right to remark on the brave testimony of

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Joanne McGibbon, and our thoughts are with all of those who have lost

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loved ones from terrorism. That is a strong important message this house

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red House should continue to get out. Also the issue with the joint

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agency task force, and this is doing good work and bringing together

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different agencies to confront organised criminality, and also

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those linked to terrorism. It is doing good work and we must do more.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. Given the threat level in Northern Ireland is

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still severe, does the Secretary of State feel satisfied with the level

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of intelligence sharing in the province?

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I would underline to my honourable friend that I think some good work

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is taking place between our agencies in Northern Ireland, as well as with

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the Republic of Ireland. I think that is in a stronger position than

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it has been. Of course there is still room for further improvement

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but significant seizures of arms and weaponry have been undertaken as a

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consequence of that work. It is important to underline it.

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My constituent Austin Hunter was an outstanding journalist, and covered

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the security situation in Northern Ireland for many years. Not only a

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brilliant journalist and family man, he was a remarkably fine man. I

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wonder, with the Secretary of State kindly take this opportunity to join

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with colleagues around the house who will have known Austin Hunter as a

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distinguished journalist in Northern Ireland. Join me in sending

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condolences to his devastated family, devastated by his death in a

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tragic accident at the weekend. I think they honourable lady, and

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whilst I did not have the village of meeting Austin Hunter, I know from

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all of the really powerful testimony what an incredible journalist he

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was, but also what an incredibly warm and human man he was as well.

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This was a tragic accident, and I join with the honourable lady in

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sending my condolences to his friends and family, all of those who

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knew him... He made clearly a remarkable contribution and he will

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be missed by so many. People who give information to the

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police about terrorist activities have saved many lives in the past

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and will continue to do so today, so is it not entirely wrong to claim

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that some groups do in Northern Ireland, as some claim, that any

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case which involves an agent involves police misconduct?

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My right honourable friend is correct in what she says about how

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we saved lives as a consequence of the support of people and

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communities, often at great personal cost. I think that should be

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recognised on some of the powerful intelligence it has provided and its

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impact. I would like to congratulate the

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Police Service of Northern Ireland and other security agencies in them

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stopping a number of terrorist attacks. But with the Secretary of

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State give us some information as to whether the dissident terrorists are

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still recruiting and increasing in numbers in Northern Ireland?

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As the honourable gentleman will have seen from my written statement

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yesterday, there is an enduring Brett from terrorism, a point I

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underlined on the need for vigilance. -- there is a threat.

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There are support is limited but we must continue to be aware and

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confront that, which is why I do pay tribute to the successes and work of

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the Police Service of Northern Ireland, but equally we must remain

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focused on the security issues, which underlines yesterday's

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statement points. Does my right honourable friend

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agree that it is important that service personnel who put their

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lives on the line for our security on a daily basis, such as a Lance

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Corporal who was arrested and questioned in November last year, or

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other former members of the Parachute Regiment who had to go to

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High Court to battle against detention and extradition, so they

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do not have to take place for politically motivated legal battles?

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I cannot comment on individual cases, but I will be unswerving and

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understanding in underlining the huge contribution that our Armed

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Forces made it actually helping to bring about the peace that we enjoy

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today. And part of that is the rule of law. Therefore, where there is

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evidence of criminality, it is important that rule of law is

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upheld, but I know very clearly the incredible contribution so many of

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our Armed Forces actually have undertaken.

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Does the Secretary of State agree with me that the prospect of a hard

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border would set up opportunities for organised crime and cause

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additional problems for the security services, including the police

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services, and as he therefore agree it is essential Brexit does not

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result in a hard border? The honourable lady will have heard

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me say on a number of occasions I do not want to see a return to the

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borders of the past. Part of that is about the politics but also about

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the the way we ensure the continued good relationship between ourselves

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and the Irish Government is maintained, and security is a key

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factor. Number three, Mr Speaker.

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The safety and security of all those serving in the PSNI presents and

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security forces in Northern Ireland is of the utmost importance to the

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Government. We keep under careful review, arrangement and advice to

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support their protection. I think the Secretary of State for

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the answer. He from his previous role in particular any breach in the

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security data of a member of the security services poses an obvious

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threat and risk to them and to their families. Will he undertake a review

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of all data handling and security, and postal communications between

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the Northern Ireland Office security personnel, both former and serving?

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Will he also undertake to press this matter with the Department of

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Justice, how must join up with the NII will in this?

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He has raised with me this individual case and I will write to

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him in response with this. I take this issue of the security of

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information relating to those who served to guard our protection, very

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seriously. I meet with the Ministry, the PSNI and the others, and I will

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take steps to ensure the appropriate protection of security force

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members' personal data, and we will consider this issue further.

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Number four. Mr Speaker, I continue to meet

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victims' groups, the executive and others to establish the legacy

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bodies set out in a storm and has agreement, but I am confident there

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is sufficient political consensus, and I intend to move to a public

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face to allow wider community consideration and build confidence

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and momentum behind the creation of the new legacy bodies.

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Does my honourable friend agree that these operate in a fair, balanced

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proportion if we consider the one-sided focus on cases involving

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the state where 97% of deaths in the troubles were caused by terrorist?

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My honourable friend makes a powerful and important point and I

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do agree that the legacy bodies must be balanced and the Boston.

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Actually, that was at the heart of the Stormont house agreement. The

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phraseology there and how I agree this will be important to deliver on

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that more balanced approach. Thank you. An important part of addressing

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the legacy of the Paris is breaking down visions today. Would he

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therefore join me in expressing sympathy to the family of Danny

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Murphy who died this morning and worked tirelessly to build peace and

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reconciliation, bringing people together through sport? Is a loss to

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all of us and our vital work. I thank the honourable gentleman for

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drawing tree house's attention the sad death of Danny Murphy and I'm

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sure all of us would extend our condolences to his friends and

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family. Equally, the powerful way in which sport can unite people, bring

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them together and I think, at this time, that is worth reflecting upon.

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Woody Secretary of State recognised the sheer bulk of the Republicans

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who seek 100% transparency on 10% of the deaths in the troubles, but

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offer none in Britain? -- Would the. Until they take responsibility for

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the deaths they are responsible for, it will be impossible to do so. I

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think it's important to everyone to work together with bruises on. And

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that is why I'm continuing to sit dot-mac commit significant effort to

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do just that. The honourable gentleman is right, at the moment,

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the system is heavily focused on the 10% rather than a 90% and the

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balanced proportionate measures that I could fall will assist in changing

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that. This level, can I associate myself with the tributes paid to the

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file journalist Austin Hunter and to Danny Murphy. Would the Minister now

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do better in building consensus if he did not revisit marks that give

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offence to state violence victims? -- remarks. Surely having a stronger

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provision in respect of the attics would provide better output because

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that would not restrict to killings, the other measures do, but would

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also extend to the Palace military. The honourable gentleman will be

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well aware that the Stormont house bodies, the legacy bodies

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contemplated, actually cover a range of issues. Part of this is about

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investigation, part is about more information and consideration of

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this to come forward in a number of different ways. That is why I think

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it's a priority that we move forward with the Stormont house bodies and

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by that running a key focus for me. -- remains. Thank you. One of the

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omissions of the past few years has been the desperate plight of people

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who have been seriously injured due to the troubles, who have been

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unable to work and therefore unable to build up secondary pension

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provisions. Notwithstanding what was said before about the political

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consensus, will he meet with myself and representatives of the wave,

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centre to see how we can work together to try and resolve this as

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quickly as possible? -- Wave Trauma Centre. I am thankful for the rating

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this point and I have met with the Wave Trauma Centre. I continue an

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engagement with them. I'm conscious of this issue of pension rights, how

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there is discussion, continuing with the executive and therefore I will

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continue to seek to gain the necessary consensus to make progress

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on this really important issue. Question number five, Mr Speaker.

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Thank you. Officials across the whole of the Department of looking

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to make sure the interests of Northern Ireland are protected and

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advanced in the UK as the UK prepares to leave the European

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Union. We will continue to monitor what further support is required.

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The Northern Ireland Office did little preparation for Brexit and it

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appears, from the response to a written question I tabled, and

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several private consultancy firms are profiting from this lack of

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preparation. Canley Minister tell me how many contracts have been awarded

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to consultancy firms and external organisations? I have no external

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contracts being issued. Can my honourable friend update the house

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on what action his department is taking to promote business and

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community engagement ahead of Brexit? While there is a constant

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dialogue between business. -- well, there is. Business, Government and

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the voluntary sector and we are making sure Cabinet members and

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colleagues are fully -- fully understand and get the best possible

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deal for Northern Ireland. The agriculture sector creates 70,000

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jobs. It's also 3.25% of the Northern Ireland gross value and

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that equates to some ?1.1 billion of the basic prices. With the Minister

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confirm that civil servant personnel will be in sufficient numbers to

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ensure that a smooth transition for the UK out of the EU takes place?

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Can I thank the honourable gentleman for the question? We do recognise

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the importance of the sector in Northern Ireland. There is a good

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dialogue between the sector and the department, and I know that Canada's

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members have met leading food manufacturers and members of the

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agriculture sector and that's dialogue will continue. Recent

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reports from the United States show that advice given by our civil

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servants to the US State Department prior to the referendum was...

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Quote, Brexit cannot happen so don't worry about it. Was this same crass

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advice being given to our partners, especially to the Irish Government?

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Can I just say that I don't recognise the comments that have

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just been made. We have a good relationship with the Irish

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Government and we'll continue that's dialogue and work with them.

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Question on six, Mr Speaker. The Secretary of State has established a

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business advisory group to help understand economic priorities of

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the Northern Ireland business Trinity. A series of sectoral

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meetings have already been made, including with the agricultural food

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sector, manufacturing and gate of industries. I thank my honourable

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friend for that answer. What impact does my honourable friend think the

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Government's industrial strategy will have in revamping the private

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sector in Northern Ireland? What discussions is he having with the

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executive on this topic? I think it's important to recognise the huge

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contribution, some ?23 billion, which is incorporated in the

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industrial sector and strategy. I also recognise the movement and

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growth in the private sector business. Some 14,410 jobs in the

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last year alone. Thank you. I'm sure the Minister will agree that the

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lower end of the corporation tax in Northern Ireland has certainly

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helped the economy and companies for somebody also agree that one area

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that we all need to concentrate on, and that is productivity? I do

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recognise the points that the honourable gentleman make the

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magnates. We are working closely with the executive to raise

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productivity. I know they have a really important budget coming of

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any future and we've made a commitment around ?250 million of

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capital investment to assist in that process. Will my honourable friend

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welcome the additional ?250 million of X manager that has been provided

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to the Northern Ireland expenditure in the Autumn Statement and does he

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agree that this law free opportunity from the executive to be up, improve

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in the structure in the future? Completely agree with that

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statement. There has been some huge growth in jobs in Northern Ireland.

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Nearly 60,000 new jobs since 2010. We need to keep building on the

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great step that we have made. The Government working with the

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executive is a key part of that. Could I also be associated with the

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condolences offered in in respect of Danny Murphy, who is a powerful poor

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dot-mac force for reconciliation and mutual understanding. Not only on

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the island of Ireland but also between Ireland and Britain. Could I

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under tarmac at the Minister if he would reconsider the report on the

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visitor economy, in particular the recent report into apprenticeships

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with particular reference to flexible electors cult-like ability?

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-- fiscal flexibility. Can I also associate myself with those

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condolences with Danny Murphy's death? Looking to the fiscal

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flexibility, the Newcastle airshow is a really important part of the

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economy and I want to make a contribution to that as well, and in

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the near future, be more active than that. The campaign to give more

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powers to the SMB, reduce corporation tax, Unite all political

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parties in Northern Ireland, all of Northern Irish business, they said

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they would double the turnover, workforce if they could get... Could

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the Minister tell me if you will give every opportunity to push the

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assembly and get this through? I recognise the contribution my

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honourable friend has made in trying to achieve this. It's right that we

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do challenging the executive fiscal response tea is an important part of

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that process. There is an important budget coming up in the moment and I

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know there is a dialogue going on about that. Number seven. Good

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progress has been made on in permitting the agreement, that is

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relevant to bill for reform, a joint agency task force to tackle crime

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and executive strategy to disband military groups. And ending

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paramilitary activity. Something vital to the economic success of

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Northern Ireland is enlarging on progress in the specific areas, will

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he do so? I think we have made Pacific significant progress and if

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you consider the progress from this time last year, there have been

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brought in steps forward. There are still additional steps to be taken,

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including the establishment of an independent fiscal council to

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publish an annual report on the executive 's's finances and provide

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further assurance on progress. Good ISOs yet my colleagues and I with

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the tributes paid to both Austin Hunter and Danny Murphy? -- could I

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associate myself. Can we get the assurance that...

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CHEERING That she will not allow the Stormont

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house agreement and a fresh start agreement to be an picked? And with

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the legacy issues, will be hold fast on national security and not allow

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those who want to rewrite the history of the past to do so? IM

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very clear on the need to continue to make progress in relation to

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Stormont house and in relation to fresh start. There have been

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significant steps forward but equally I will not be party to a be

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writing of the issues of the past and that is why proportionate

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approach is required. Thank you. Part of Stormont house agreement is

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the legacy issues. Almost weekly, there is news items, these prejudice

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up and coming cases, giving just one side of the story. Will the

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Secretary of State take action so that we don't have future cases

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prejudiced with stories in the newspapers, or will he pours the

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legacy issue? I think it's important that the rule of law is clearly

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upheld and appropriate investigations are undertaken but I

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do take the point that I made earlier on about imbalance within

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the existing system. The fact that 90% of those who lose their lives

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was their lives due to terrorism. That by the new bodies are important

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to deliver that balanced proportionate approach. Question

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number eight. I have met with and continue to meet with counterparts

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in the Irish garment as they prepare for the UK's exit from the EU. The

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UK - Irish relationship has never been stronger. In the coming months,

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we were deep in corporation -- we will be in cooperation and deal with

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matters that are in the best interests of Northern Ireland. It is

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the closest of importance that the relationship between the UK and

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Northern Ireland remains. Will you negotiate with the EU under half of

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Northern Ireland alongside the UK to ensure the maintenance of existing

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relationships with the Republic? I will make sure Northern Ireland

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remains part of the United Kingdom and I will speak on the behalf of

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the Northern Ireland when it comes to negotiations in leaving the EU.

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Good ISOs yet myself with the remarks of the condolences to the

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family of Danny Murphy and Austin Hunter? Could I also at least

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Secretary of State that he recognise the real needs for this boat and

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in-depth protection for all aspects of the Good Friday agreement and

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Belfast agreement? And that we meet that. Order, order. The honourable

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gentleman is asking for protections for Northern Ireland in respect of

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the Good Friday agreement. This is an extremely important matter. The

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honourable gentleman should be able to articulate for his constituents

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with the respectful audience. -- a respectable audience. But the

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Secretary of State agree with me that there is a need for this book

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and in-depth protection for all aspects of the Good Friday Belfast

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agreement and the need for the constitution and principles of that

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agreement to be given full recognition in any future UK - EU

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treaty? And that Northern Ireland's unique interest will not in any way

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be satisfied via near consultation with the first and Deputy First

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Minister? My right honourable friend the Prime

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Minister is in Bahrain. Mr Speaker, this morning I had meeting with

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ministerial colleagues and others and in addition to my duties in this

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House, I shall have further such meetings in this House later today.

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Yesterday's signing of a memorandum of understanding with

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